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Why the Victorian mansion is a horror icon
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2018
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Haunted houses are often depicted with similar features: decaying woodwork, steep angles, and Gothic-looking towers and turrets. The model for this trope is the Victorian mansion, once a symbol of affluence and taste during the Gilded Age - a period of American history marked by political corruption and severe income inequality.
After World War I, these houses were seen as extravagant and antiquated, and were abandoned. Their sinister relationship to the troubling end of the Victorian Era in America eventually led to their depiction as haunted and ghostly in both fine art and pop culture, and is now an unspoken symbol of dread.
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Isn't this video a little late?
@@Vox I can't trust you anymore 7n7
you got the timeline wrong btw Victorian was big in the 1870s, the era you describe in the video was afterwards in the American Renaissance,
Hi, I watched your video of 2017 relatedly you provided a link for..
And..
You kno what..?..:
Humanity is lagging behind its potentials.. we are to build space stations much like these buildings but not tanks or have not officially state that houses have to library rooms.. _just like it is stated that they have to have toilets, bathrooms.. appropriate kitchen infrastructure or even due to some locations and their intended characterization with manners buildings have to have.. regulations of having a minimum of having sunlight at least.._
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Why are moon-lander countries so rich? Why is Africa and middle east are announced as iode lacking geographies that.. people there are made believe that they have to add iode to their salt for any kind of *Victory* meant to be had/achieved via this adding initial?
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I personally think that as long as those countries are well lagging behind sociablities that initiate reasonable persisting against these types of social and human engineering experimentations on themselves.. they will not see the tanks as big as a football stadium releasing lots of robocops and terminators on their lands.. lest.. nature is synergetic as deniers of existance of spirits and a divine spirit are not encountering or expecting. Nobody invented 40.000 a death a year in U.S. that any or not a ISIL or Al Kaidah could ever execute.. or as in the same way.. of Russia.. population decrease showing a whole lotta collapse so soon.. ... ..at the end.. the day that they feel they're right about the such invasion prospect so very instatntly ready-with.. nature will weirdly explode and diminish those moon-landing Victorynne rich entities.. A'Spirin of a Spirit get-by..
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Covertly or insidiously by human will diminished nations for and under experimentations is a real good subject for Vox I consider. Africans, Turks, Argentinians, Brasilians, Chinese, Indians.. Americans.. real.. so too real.. as much crispy and in deed psycopathological as what is hinted in this video.. so too real and magesticly so too great in fact(s) and their coverage hugeness. Huge is Higg's Hide Out Bozon.. We all need to feel ConCerne'd I think.
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Good bye.
*We should preserve these buildings, we'll never build anything up to par again*
Absolutely
Especially with all of these mediocre houses of the 70s-2000s.
totally agree! with all the negative imposed on victorian houses, for me i love victorian house.
@no. I paused it at 1:20. I didn't see anything.
@@dongysakura418 I would say the 1940"s -- 2000's. The art deco style of the 1920"s and 1930"s was the last great design movement. It was all downhill after that. A lot of people have complained about these drab mediocre buildings they've built for the past several decades but they keep building them.
I lived in a Victorian house with my family (specifically my grandparents, they raised my dad and his 6 siblings there because it was so big) for a good chunk of my childhood. It wasn’t nearly as large, but it did have all of the ornate details and windows. We were never allowed in the parlor, and my grandfather was constantly painting and repainting the outside. The inside was... musty. It was old and they were old so nothing was ever really changed. I tend to look at them as comforting and homey, but for a good while I did think it was haunted. Always felt like someone was watching me go up the first floor stairs.
I think kids are imaginative enough to make anything haunted. My parents and I moved into a brand new house in 1983 and one room, which we never really used, always freaked me out. Fast forward to 2010 and I move back in after losing my parents. It was a terrible time for selling a house, so I kept it a couple of years. I used that room and it was just a normal room, nothing scary at all.
WOAH!!!
I live in a house built in the early 1400’s, in a well preserved medieval village in England. I can honestly say I’ve never once had a bad feeling; to me it’s “charming” as opposed to “ominous”. I’m not sure why older American homes are so often “haunted” - perhaps due to perception? As I’ve always viewed Victorian homes here to be rather modern, yet in the US (I’m guessing) they are seen as relatively old and therefore ghost-ridden! I must say however that even though the houses featured in this video are pretty, they are also somehow “spooky”. So I’m sure if you lived there it probably wouldn’t be hard to find them a bit haunted. The same could be said for mine (due to its crooked half-timbered appearance), but instead feels welcoming.
@@tamaracarter1836 omg I've always wanted to live in one of those pretty well preserved villages in England. Now you made me wonder... Will I feel like I'm living in a fairytale or will I feel like the old place is haunted?
Yeah I think it depends, but you’ll probably know the moment you walk through the door - as some houses can give off a bad vibe/ spooky atmosphere straight away. I really love old houses though!
Ok, dude. Great video, but DONT need the jump scares!
Yup. Its 11:40 at night and i was just looking to learn about old architecture. So long sleep
Fr
I hate jump scare. I hate it so much! 😢
Thanks for the warning.
I flipped my poor screen right after that scene, that was uncalled for. Glad I watched this in daylight..
But can we all agree that these houses are a work of art.
There should be a revival of this style (mostly because there were very hazardous things in these houses, but with the knowledge we have nowadays, we can make beautiful and safe houses)
in this economy?
i agree! i might beocme an arcetect one day and build homes in this stlye as best i can!
The gothic style is technically a revival. Gothic style first started with churches around the 1400s and these Victorian homes were made to mimic the ornate details of churches
Asbestos and lead paint to name a few 😳🤣
@@ninosanvithian8116and arsenic wallpaper
4:50 So I sometimes watch Vox informational videos to help put me to sleep; thanks for that ending...
Same 😂😢
SAME
3am and about to sleep. Was drifting off and actually possibly asleep. Not anymore lol
Literally same. It’s 2am and I’m in my bed in the dark. They didn’t have to do me like that
Totally the same!
I think these victorian mansions are creepy because of the feeling of being closed off and the fact that those mansions have so much space inside that they hide- like something must be in there; the mansions disguise that by showing off a beautiful exterior, but it tries too hard and comes off as "grotesque", suggesting something about it is a little off. Like an alien or a robot trying really hard to pretend to be human.
They are also kind of similar to houses we already know, they aren't from too long ago. So they aren't as removed from the present as something like a castle. But they are still from long enough ago that they are unfamiliar and even foreign, despite having existed in areas we still live.
And of course they are big and intimidating.
I think they were designed to hide stuff.
Crepuscular Night
Or maybe you are just looking too deeply into things?
@@connorpusey5912, um this is just what makes it creepy to me. If you think these 3 things are deep well... okay.
Crepuscular Night
I didn’t say that the things you mentioned are deep. I said that you are thinking too deeply. In other words you are overthinking it. I honestly think it’s just because people have been so influenced by 20th century horror culture.
@@connorpusey5912, again its just what makes it creepy for me without watching movies.
3 things, they're: mysterious, intimidating, and they are familiar (close to our time/common) but still seem strange to me.
Those are not "the Victorian", those are second empire Victorian. There are several different styles of Victorian, gothic, queen Anne, colonial revival (quite austere), and the transitional styles into the edwardian period.
They didn't fall out of fashion because of a backlash against the rich. That would imply the upper class were replaced by a new upper class, They weren't. Once the ornamentation of the Victorians
became so ubiquitous that even the poor were adding gingerbread brickabrack to the gables and doorways, the rich saw their own stuff as declassé and responded with cleaner styles, styk, mission, craftsman, then eventually deco.
OOps should have read down to see if anyone else got it right before I commented
But, vox is my source for unbiased and highly self aware factually based information that is not at all more horrific and anachronistic in its nature than the historicity it botches with a nose in the air and an incredulous... nasally, hairy armed spectacle.
Ps. Too many signifiers that signify not a lexical or relative denotation, but an easy to dismiss erudite connotation: you think your parapet is smarter than all and sundry? Listen, Etruscan doesn’t exist, and let’s extrapolate the nuances of columns and remember that whether dawning a poets bow and a frock four inches above the knee, or a regency tailcoat, or trousers or any sort... or even a tunic, if you go to a backyard party, you’re a pirate no matter what... unless you’re the product of a limited frame of reference that is beyond imagining.
Shaun Koreshowell/Bunds
Sorry buddy, you came to the wrong place for that.
Francesca Taphophilia , you are perhaps the most brilliant person I’ve ever had the pleasure of encountering on UA-cam. Sincerely I thank you for sharing such an intellectual and well worded comment that others should be aware of.
Don’t. EVER. Do. That. Jump. Scare. AGAIN
4:50 I don't trust you anymore
🤣same
You saved me dude... I was watching at night ._.
Thank you !!! You saved me 🖤
Sameee
I didn’t really get scared by the jump scares for some reason
The premise of the video is a little too simplistic. Don’t forget that the horror genre in reading came of age in the 19th century as did spiritualism.
The Winchester Mansion is a great example of spiritualism and architecture colliding.
Also to note is; in a land without castles an imposing mansion is the next best thing.
All good points.
-Coleman
Thank you!! I thought the same thing and commented then I saw you put it best.
Not to mention that in the early 20th century, during the introduction of visual media like film, television and comic books, the remaining Victorians were inhabited by reclusive pensioners. Even today many people regard the elderly as a bit ghastly--imagine what it was like when we didn't understand dementia and isolation as well.
The Victorians also just liked darker interiors. A darker house is just spookier on the inside. Victorian homes almost always had dark, natural woodwork that trap rather than reflect light. The earlier neo-classical styles mostly had painted woodwork in lighter colors. Victorians also brought back Gothic styling, which has lots of sharp, pointy details that can resemble thorns or a knifepoint. Classical architecture doesn't really have sharp, abrupt angles.
Yeah, It's curious how architectural preferences change over time, nowadays a more minimalist and modern style is sought that makes connection with nature, Victorian architecture is strongly influenced by spiritualism and search for extramaterial conford, architecture is always rooted in human visual taste and evolves through time, just as Victorian architecture influenced the Gregorian and the steamline moderne boom which attracted attention of the consumers with its innovative aesthetics.
Another interesting fact is that in the depression era, when these homes were abandoned, folks told stories and spread rumors, to keep kids from going in.
Also consider that if you want a movie set, the design goals of the Victorian help. The very gloominess of the house adds darkness, which can become sinister because they help create ambiguous shadows and shapes. Even outside of it, all the details create a complex silhouette. Humans associate ambiguity with uncertainty and thus give place to fear. One of the keys to horror is creating ambiguity, am I seeing a monster in the corner or just a statue?
Plus, old Victorian mansions were probably on cheap to rent. Perhaps also roomy enough to house a film crew while inside.
András Bónitz That’s very true!
These houses are more beautiful than modern ones
I agree 👍
Modernist architecture will likely stop soon
Agree. this and the traditional filipino houses (Ancestral House) are my favourite types of house.
My brother always did say that if he ever won the lottery he would build the Addams Family house and I agree with him.
I agree
I actually like and want to live in a old victorian house.
Weaseling rentler i agree with you so much .
Yeah, me too. I don't care how decadent people think it is, they are gorgeous!
i’ve always wanted to live in one, because there are so many beautiful victorian houses in my area. i never got the vibe that they were unnerving, creepy, or desolate. i just love the architecture lol
Same!
Same!
Jumpscare at the end, please be prepapred if you're watching this at 3AM like me.
What is your country? It's still 10:40 here in the Philippines
Still 21:40 in Indonesia
Thanks for the warning!!
If only I read the comments first. But it’s only 2 am for me
Thanks. I turned down the volume, but the image still got me 😂
And an old Victorian still remains my dream home. Someday I can afford one, and she will be beautiful. Someday...
I like horror movie so much l’ve always had this fantasy of buying an old huge Victorian house to live in and hiring actors to “haunt” it. I like to keep my current place dark for the same reason-since you can’t rely on Hollywood anymore to make its mind up about what horror even is anymore. But once in a while a ‘Haunting of Hill House’ comes along to set it all right again.
I think a lot of us horror fans would love to have one. But I think even if I was wealthy enough to have one, itd be better to have a new one built. I don't think there are that many of them out there so even if you find one you'd have to hope you actually want to live in that area lol.
My grandparents have one, Perched on top of a hill at the end of a rural street, sealed off basement and leaky roof included, it’s not that over the top with the Victorian styling, pretty much a big L shape with bay windows, a big roof with dormers and tall chimneys.
someone apparently hung them selves in it before my grandparents moved in, it’s a bit spooky but not that bad.
the lake on the far end of the house grounds is far more spooky. Always feels like someone is watching me when I’m down by the lake on my own.
Same
Same. I also wanted to have a Victorian house.
"Morbidly antisocial and mysteriously wealthy" --- I like the sound of that 💀🎩🧐😜
The goal, lol.
cause same
This is why I don't believe in ghosts - they are all old and Victorian.
Why isn't there any ghosts of 12 years old pre-teens that died in the 2000s in a Canadian Tuxedo listening to Britney Spears?
This is Barris! Or cave people ghosts. When did the whole ghost thing kick in because it seems around 1500
It's actually quite interesting, ghost sightings and stories became much more common place directly after the civil war. It's worth noting that one in four who went to the war died, a quarter of a generation wiped out in the blink of an eye. Everyone knew someone who died and where there is grief there are people looking to turn that grief into money. There was an explosion of seances' where con men and hacks claimed you could reunite with lost love ones.
Soon: Millenial Ghosts with phones.
Just like that game Dreadout
At first I am always like I don't believe in ghosts or supernatural, hears a creek on second thought covers my self with blankets. Cause for some reason I believe that a blanket could save me from getting killed.
I don't believe in ghosts but maybe they have lifespan too. All ones from before 1700 faded out, recent ones only starting to gain strength or go to ghost school or something.
Ok low key mad at that jump scare at the end lmao
Riiiiight! Ugh 😒not cool
High key mad
Josh Mode dope profile pic though
Right? I’m watching this at the library and nearly screamed :(
Josh Mode Disliked just for that
I want a house like this. Whenever I pictured my dream house it was always a Victorian style house.
Yes... But what about Poe‘s „Fall of the house of Usher“ and Collins‘ „Woman in White“? Both established the Voctorian House as places of gothic horror before Addams did.
Same thought
Were they? I thought the house of Usher was more of an ancient castle/manor. Medieval rather than Victorian.
yes
This doesn't really address the associations that Victorian culture had with death before it became passé. I certainly like the Marxist take, but those people were obsessed with death. It was ingrained in the culture. It makes sense why death would be associated with their houses.
marxist? where did that come from
Vincent R It’s not about socialism or communism or anything like that, it’s a terminology for formal analysis of class differences and relations. Examining something with a marxist lens means you’re looking at how different economic classes are portrayed or how they interact together in a piece of literature, a cultural phenomenon, etc.
Moon Fish thank you for the clarification
You know what else is a horror icon? My face in the morning.
It cant be that bad.
Smae
I was expecting one of the 3 comments above me to write, "My face all the time".
I personally love the style of these mansions ever since I was a kid, to me they signify elegance & mystery.
JUMPSCARE AT 4:50 !!!
its a video clip from I.T where I.T's face with its mouth open jumps towards the screen. i turned off the volume just before 4:50 comes on so it'll be less scary
I could have been lured by bill denbrough 😂😂 but thank goodness I checked the comments first.
Thank you so much. You just saved me.
It's not even scary
this was so unnecessary and honestly kind of ruins the mood of the video
@@monkieri2 no it's not, it's really considerate actually
4:50 *Heads up! Jumpscare.*
Thank you so much!
Thanks for telling me
Thank you! Lesson learned, always scroll down!
I see u in every video I watch
thanks for the heads up
bless you
*Owner spends a fortune building a fancy mansion *
*house is now seen as a horror house
Owner *nice... *
👌"nice" 👌
Insert *am I joke to you meme*
*Owner slaps roof of mansion*
Owner: It could fit so many ghösts
*Mansion snaps the neck of owner*
THAT is the nature of subjectivity. I grew up in what everyone thought was the local haunted house. I'd like to die in a beige condo somewhere eventually, but for the time being I'm the shadowy figure you can see on nights... just like this.
@@AnindyaDasAdhikary bad house!! bad house! -House's owner ghost.
I would GLAD to live in one of the Victorian style houses
which means u r super-rich. So me too.
huang liuying That doesn’t mean you’re rich
It'll be so hard to clean the house since it's so big and so many ornaments there, it's just a matter of time until the things there covered in dust
and you'll be glad to have no sleep every night
@@risuhijirikawa5901 if you have the money to buy the house, you have the money to pay for someone to clean it
I’ve always thought that Victorian mansions were beautiful and grand. I’ve never really understood why people think that look sinister. My ultimate dream is to own a brick Italianate house from the late 19nth century.
Tip: Get historic preservation put on it so you can get tax credits from your city for working on it ☺️
So you want to live in SF lol
4:50 Come on, man.... This is a vox video, and it should lull me into enlightened bliss.
Harry Goodwin gotta read dem comments
@@seandafny I TRUSTED HIM!!!
To some people, horror does that tough.
ghost time stamps:
1:20 hanging from the left celling lamp (very faint so is easy to miss)
1:55 in the mirror on the left side
1:57 behind the glass cupboard
2:00 in the second window to the right
4:36 in the left window
I don't see the first one. Good catch on the others though.
Well done.
-Coleman
You have a spooky ability.
Dwight K. Schrute let it play for a split second. It’s not the image the time stamp lands on
I don’t see anyone in a left window at 4:36
There’s someone in the *center* window at 4:37, though.
those houses are absolutely beautiful.
I love Victorian houses you’ll never convince me otherwise
Because it's spookier than a Mediterranean Villa? 🤔
Cracking up
Idk man, I mean the Roman Villas were places of horror.
Villas just turn me on
But why though
Yeah, kinda hard to create a feeling of dread in something that light and cheerful looking
This entire video glosses over the roots of modern horror: the Gothic novels of the late 1700's. How can Vox just conveniently skip over works like The Monk, The Mysteries of Udolpho, and Northanger Abbey? These original works were all set in European Gothic mansions. The reason why "Victorian" houses (there are about 15 different architectural styles listed as "Victorian" in this video) seem spooky is because they were the only thing in America similar to those Gothic mansions.
@jane lam Hey I thought NA was one of JA best works, yes it's parody but it's brilliantly done parody.
Thank you for pointing this out! I was expecting the video to at least briefly mention the Gothic literature/Gothic novels from the late 1700s, but instead it just focused on recent American history and pop culture...
Don't forget Castle of Otranto. The first gothic novel.
Actually Jane Austen wasn't poking fun at Brontes, simply because Charlotte, the oldest Bronte sister, was born in 1815, while Austen died in 1816 - so there was no Brontes books to make fun of by Austen. In fact Jane Austen was big fan of gothic romances, especially of Anne Radcliffe, and yes, she was making fun of some aspects of these novels (i.e. Perfect, innocent, naive heroines), but overall she was quite a fan of this genre. Some of novels her characters are talking about in NA are now known because of her - for many years critics were sure Austen just made up some titles and threw them in her book, but these novels existed in real life and we know about their existence mostly because of her.
Reading all these comments makes me realize how uneducated I am.
Down voting for the jump scare lol
The Addams family and "Psycho" houses are both Second Empire. Queen Anne houses with their wrap-around porches and large windows are less often used to portray haunted houses; they look more welcoming compared to Second Empire houses which appear more imposing.
Exactly, Vox failed to mention this.
04:50 Nice try Vox, nice try...
I hate you
I saw this comment just before it played and shielded myself just in time. Merci, Ami!
@@johnnybadboy3475 You're welcome I just accomplished with my duty
Thankyou.
Gosh I was having a dinner
It was recently Halloween, missed opportunity
"Fairly soon ago"??? Wtf?
you mean fairly recently / not long ago lmao
@@maxonite Sorry I'm not a native English speaker
@@somberstricken4424 Sorry English isn't my first language so I'm not perfect.
At least you understood the message I was trying to convey.
Also it's very nice of you to use wtf and lmao
The jumpscare at the end wasn't fair :(
I absolutely love this style of house, creepy or not I'd love to have a house like this one day
I like the diversity of topics vox does
Haze Draco diverse? I think you have a poor opinion of what’s diverse
CottonBalls I’m actually laughing, well put, well put.
I wish they did more things that didn't tie in some how to America
@@liamdavis2387 its an AMERICAN based company, after all...
is all socialist propaganda with a couple random articles here and there to pretend they are moderate. They even dedicated this video to take a jab at rich people. This video would not have been made without that anti capitalist, anti wealthy people argument. Theres only really one topic in all Vox videos and is bullshit
If you are smart enough to scroll through the comments before watching the vid, beware of the cheap jump scare at 4:50
People who didn't get scared 👇🏻
What makes you think putting Pennywise there will be funny or giving people jumpscare? It was a nice cultured video and he ruined it
grow up
If you're a coulrophobe, you might wanna stop watching at 4:48.
Hahahahhahq
What's a coulrophobe?
@• Love you • oh okay thanks
Still kinda amazes me people could be so extra and spend that much on a house, only to abandon it within a couple decades
Welcome to the opulence of the selfishly rich.
This mindset still shines in the field of super-cars. Many of them are among the most unreliable vehicles ever on the market while being the most expensive simply because it was unnecessary to make them reliable, most are only owned by the original buyer for a short time despite the exorbitant price tag. They're sold at a huge loss before the new, equally unreliable, model is bought.
@@Nirawen planned obsolescence, but for the ones who can afford it
Nice
It's the same reason we see McMansions today: having a lot of money isn't the same thing as being responsible. Also, I'd assume that the same kind of construction companies that currently throw together crappy McMansions that "look like affluence" but are environmental and financial disasters were around back then.
@@Nirawen I don't really agree on the supercars interpretation. Usually supercars are defined by two specifications: Being race ready and implementing and praxis testing the latest shiny tech. Both can contribute both to be superior and to unreliability. But part of the unreliability myth stems from using them in the wrong context (everyday traffic) or neglect. Ironically little hurts a car more than just standing around unused.
To a European, who grew up in a victorian mansion and who haven’t been exposed to “American Horror Culture” all to much, this is a video quite strange to watch.
You grow up in a mansion?! Cool. Keep forgetting that Europe actually has mansions and castles etc
What country did you grow up in?
What city mate? German here I barely know any Victorian mansions, but that might be cuz it’s Germany.
The styles being mentioned in this video are *American* Victorian and *American* Second Empire. Are you sure you lived in a house like this?
Ima say troll because "Victorian mansions" did not exist in Europe. 19th century European styles were much more toned down and simpler, we built houses to last back then. These mansions on the other hand, as pointed out in the video, were the mcmansions of the era - expensive to maintain due to all the fluff and that's why they became ran down in only years of abandon. Can't imagine this happening to wooden buildings of Eastern Europe or say haussmannian buildings in France
I'd hesitate to compare them to McMansions...There were similarly "grotesque" castles and villas in Europe prior to the Victorian Era were'nt there? Aren't the values of grotesqueness a matter of personal taste? Isn't a McMansion a reaction to overall consistently poor quality of design, material and construction?
An excellent point
Maybe it wasn’t fair to liken them to McMansions. Since the hallmarks of McMansions is cheap materials and poor taste.
I think he likened them to McMansions as a way of saying they’re basically the staples of the nouveau riche. People with newfound affluence who like to show off their abundant means. So they build stuff that’s insanely gaudy and insanely tacky.
Victorian homes are elegant & beautiful.
4:50 Cheers son's crying. Nice one
Good meme 😂
Im weeaaaakkkk 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dark corners create shadows and these shadows move with every new angle. Victorians have many angles to each room. Windows add the movement of curtains because if drafts, especially on a windy night. The rain on the wood shingles echo through the walk up attic and down the staircase. Mice running between the walls cause floorboards to creek. Or all of these movements and sounds could really could be ghosts.
We own a Victorian built in 1903, and it's every bit as spooky, especially the basement. People back 100 years ago, in our neighborhood burried their dead in the dirt floor of basements and over time many people escavating in the old neighborhood have found their remains. It makes me wonder.
I wouldn't give up the charm though. The detailing and the vaulted ceilings. The floor to ceiling windows, the turrets and the Butler's pantry are done using beautifully carved wood and trim that add to the charm.
lucky having a place like that.
My grandparents have one, Perched on top of a hill at the end of a rural street. The basement is sealed off as well, so who knows what’s down there. it’s not that over the top with the Victorian styling, pretty much a big L shape with bay windows, a big roof with dormers and tall chimneys.
someone apparently hung them selves in it before my grandparents moved in, it’s a bit spooky but not that bad.
the lake on the far end of the house grounds is far more spooky. Always feels like someone is watching me when I’m down by the lake on my own.
Where can you find a Victorian mansion to buy?
i hate when they over simplify things.. modern houses are practically bricks stacked atop one another, while victorian era houses are far more intricate and honestly much nicer in my opinion.
Ok ok wait wait wait. "Victorian Mansion" is an extremely broad term. All the examples in the intro could be classified as "Second Empire" style with the distinctive Mansard roof. You DONT see Italianate, Shingle, Greek Revival, or Queen Anne styles as horror movie fodder, yet they're all equally "Victorian" houses!
Honestly, Victorian houses are beautiful to me!
“Gaudy and unbalanced” um that is clearly your personal opinion based on your own personal tastes. I happen to love Victorians
I didn't like that "gaudy and unbalanced" remark either. But, I love Victorians and I love big windows, but I like them covered with elegant drapes. I don't like the openness of the new houses today. They're cold and no privacy. I really don't like that.
Don't forget _"monstrosity"_
Not from their vantage point, at all.
Lucas Santos my impression has suggested while some thought that in the 1870s, e.g. the people who ordered these homes thought the variety was sophisticated, elegant, Stylish - asymmetrical was to them interesting., like a tree with asymmetrical Variety. Never studied it deeply, do you have a source on this? I’d like to learn more!
Modern houses:a big glass box with some pillars
My grandmother owned a Victorian which was passed down since the late 1800’s. It was used throughout the decades as a halfway house for suffragettes who were in hiding from the police or thrown out by their husbands. It was especially expensive as it stood alone by the shore. My dad sold it but ever since, all my relatives were heartbroken. So many Halloween’s and eery memories were made there.
And yes, my mother did believe it was haunted, she had a lot of chilling stories such as human forms jumping out the window as she came back from school. And apparently my mother’s cousin could hear guttural groaning coming from my uncles room, when he was away.
I think it's more than historical facts that made those homes creepy, their architecture itself is dark and depressing. Because Victoria was a widow and mourned Prince Albert,and the Victorian age was a wave of conservatism, fear against the revolutions that preceded, and nostalgia for the pre industrial era which was all about myths and legends, so its architecture reflects that. Too much medieval looking decoration but small windows, many closed spaces with little light, basically a house that looks like a monastery or a medieval castle without being one. It's no wonder they're scary.
How dare you compare Victorian mansions to MacMansions
because cube with glass walls isnt scary
Somehow Thirteen Ghosts pulled it off.
There are a couple Victorians in my neighborhood. Well cared for and painted bright colors everyone loves them.
“There’s a light, over at the Frankenstein place”
I am so glad that someone finally recognized this, it seems that so many people overlooked this common thread in horror-architecture. I find the Victorian style to be quite beautiful and it's the modern monstrosities of the Mid-Century Modern and Brutalist age that are truly terrifying and grotesque. Some styles age better than others... those clean lines and white walls in modern architecture begin to look nasty with time. In historic buildings, a bit of age and wear gives it more character and tells a story. The idea of "clean" lines, white walls, boxy geometry feels more institutionalized and artificial. However, the Victorian age celebrated craftsmanship in every detail, in stained glass, woodwork, iron work, etc. I wish we could see more of this today, not just in the pastiche McMansions that are the rich attempt of recreating old world architecture but without any reason or understanding of the scale and geometry of every aspect to construction. The IT mansion is a fine example, thrown together as a film set, with a few Victorian elements thrown on... I'm not a fan. The Carson mansion in Eureka, CA is a wonderful example of truly great Victorian! Thanks for making this video!
Good comment.
This video was the worst I've seen from Vox, and their comparison of the height of human achievement in architecture to the lowest of the low was particularly sickening!
The editing is lovely! 👍👍
These big homes with all the rooms are perfect for being quarantined.
All those house projects would keep you busy too
Britney Touchstone yeah. I mean who wouldn’t love to heat and cool rooms people rarely go in. I mean if you’ve worked hard for the money-makes perfect sense to waste it right!?!?(sarcasm)
0:50 - The only problem with such an ornate architectural style is that it costs a fortune to build and maintain. Can you imagine trying to hand-sand, prime, and paint such detailed exterior woodwork like that? You would need a complex scaffolding to even reach some areas. Roofing would be even more complicated and expensive. The new middle class in the 1950's and 1960's couldn't possibly afford a house with such superfluous ornamentation. Given the choice of pointless detail or another room on the house, the middle class would choose space over pointless detail any day of the week.
Awwww! I like Victorian mansions. I find them unique, and actually fun. Lots of meandering hallways with odd rooms filled with funky brick-a-brack. I felt that way 90-years ago when I died, and I still do. ;-)
I live in a nice little town filled with these elderly beauties, all of them are still in pristine condition too!
One of em' was even used for the set of a movie recently.
I'm not too sure if anyone here heard about this film, but it was called "The House With a Clock in its Walls". Haven't seen it yet but I hear it's good.
(you'd honestly be surprised how many movies or TV shows they film around my town, but I'll give ya a little list if you're curious: The Walking Dead, Jumanji 2 (or 3 IDK), Ant Man and the Wasp, The Banker, and a few others I don't remember)
RustyIron 7 what’s the town?
You live on the outskirts of Atlanta, don't you? The city of atlanta is absolute garbage, but the surrounding area and towns is quite lovely.
I love those houses. Pls bring that style back
"I didn't need sleep anyways" me in the middle of the night all alone at home after that jumpscare
See also: Kanes' estate in Citizen Kane. Even in the 1941 film (so before the Addams family), the opening sequence of the film uses thematic elements of the horror genre and references to famous horror film/literature like Frankenstein. Later on, the estate comes to symbolize not only Kane's isolation, but also how empty everything he considered to be valuable in life turned out to be. As this vid indicates, the size of the estate signified power, the Victorian architectural style signified status, the ornate intricacy of its architecture signified wealth, but the little wooden sled signified love and on his death bed that's what he remembered.
wlhol9 you just just had to go and make perfect sense, didn’t you.
Why would VOX have a jumpscare? That felt really unprofessional. Please do not do that again..
Waaaaahhhhhh
You are correct. It was very cheap and honestly I will remember it next time I am tempted to even click on a Vox video.
I grew up in a neighborhood full of Victorian mansions and homes. The were scary looking at night. You actually showed one that is in the neighborhood where I grew up!
Personally, the Queen Anne style of architecture, which is the primary base for the structure of these Victorian homes, is one of my favorites. I think they're truly beautiful. They've actually become pretty popular again; yes, they are perfect for haunted houses due to all the back story you point out, but those that have been restored are magnificent. Of course, they are still quite expensive to buy and live in, but they are absolute beauties, and well worth saving, just the same. BTW, I love that Hopper painting!
Why all the trash talk on em Victorian style Houses... Plus it wasn’t French imperialism, it was more a mix of *Gothic* and *French Absolutism* architecture that creates a lavish imperialistic tone
USER seriously it was entirely over the top and clearly reflected a personal taste rather than a factual take on them.
Idk, they're built much better than newer houses. Would love to own one soon. They cost a bit more than other older styles, because unlike what the video is claiming, they are freaking gorgeous!
Man, the IT screamer at the ending....
But still, Queen Anne style is my favorite kind of house.
when I was a kid I knew a family that lived in a big run down "Mansard" style house. It was huge inside. This was in about 1962 and the house had not much upgrades inside. It even had the old "gas" light fittings on the walls (that were capped off). No shower in the bathroom just a tub. The basement floor was "dirt", not paved with cement. The house was freezing inside in the winter. Little did the family know that 40+ years into the future the home would be worth over 1 million dollars due to Boston suburbs constant rise in home prices. It was worth about $12,000 back then.
“You see in daylight....this place is still a bit sinister.” You described my soul.
I'm sick so nothing phases me. Not even that jump scare at 4:50
I would kill to live in a New Orleans Victorian Mansion but they cost up to 7 million dollars... You know why ? Because they have million times more the character and style of any modern ugly bungalow (which in many countries is the symbol of poorness)
You can’t deny it’s very appealing to imagine horror stories in specifically Victorian mansions
disliking because of that freaking jumpscare at 4:50
Damn u Vox I dropped my phone on that jumpscare
I mean, there's like at least one BLINDINGLY obvious reason: a lot of ghost stories come out of these houses because they're so old and have so much history. That and some of the best horror stories came out of the Victorian era.
I don’t know about everybody else but I think Victorian houses are beautiful and am always mystified by them by wanting to go inside and explore them. There are a few in my neighborhood and I just love walking past them and admiring their structures.
Nice work VOX. I love watching your videos
I’ve always found Victorian houses as being gorgeous. Or maybe I just like dark things.
Btw, nice try Vox with that jump scare. I didn’t flinch.
The placement of ghosts in the pictures was so tasteful, subtle and enjoyable. The jumpscare not.
The original house that Addams featured is in South Jersey...still standing.
'Better for haunts' was speak for high spookage
Aside from classist connotation of these buildings, and how big they are for little practical reason, I love the architectural design of these mansions. If you could build a practical home but in this style I would be in love.
I live in Melbourne, which famously became something of a world city in the 1850s. So Victorian-style (as in the era, not the state) architecture here is seen as the grandest of them all.
haha I live in a victorian house.. this was super informative! Thank you
It's "nouveau riche" not "nouvelle riche"
Imad Hadjersey I think he did say nouveau riche. Hard to tell even after a few relistens.
I definitely heard "nouveau riche." Of course, that could just be confirmation bias from knowing what the phrase is supposed to be.
Or as the french and their guillotine says "petitè burgoise"
Nurlinda F Sihotang "Petite bourgeoisie" is not necessarily the nouveau riche. More of the business owner class, not really as wealthy as the nouveau riche.
@@SomeDudeQC isnt that the insult to the nuvou riche too?
Newsflash... the Gilded Age never ended...
I looove victorian mansions, i'd love to live in one.
'Magnificent Ambersons' (Welles, 1942) is a great film example of the transition away from the gilded-age, towering opulence of Victorian architecture, into the Progressive era, in the form of a family once the prime example of extreme wealth, whose giant, garish house sort of becomes their cage when their old wealth declines in a world of new innovations. Although it's a drama, there are a ton of stills you could take that look as though it's a horror film, and the house itself is often considered a character of it's own, slowly transforming into a menacing hulk with piercing shadows.
Love this visual language explanation
Next: why Math teachers are a horror icon?
Horror level : Asian 😂😂
Hehe funni
@@nazliuz 😂😂😂
If asian level, EVERY TEACHER IS A HOROR ICONS. The scariest of all are the tigers moms and dragons dads.
Should be: why old rundown school building a horror icon?
I mean seriously, I had watched half a dozen horror movies from various countries which horror played out in schools, rundown or not
I think what they said about the interior is really important as well. Everything about these interiors would be dreary and spooky to the average person.
Extremely dark woods, dark greens & reds, and heavy fabrics like velvet used on every wall and every piece of furniture... Cramped rooms with poor/dim lighting mainly from gas lamps or candles... That all comes together for a very spooky inside as well!