Long-Term Care: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- John Oliver explains the industry behind nursing homes and assisted living facilities, and why long-term care needs fixing.
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1:33 „Put your phone down and look at me when I'm talking to you.“
Me watching this on my phone: *confused*
Me: *Confused screaming*
Me, watching on my PC while playing a mobile game: scared af
I was going to comment this as well.
Same
Me: internal screaming
I think it's safe to say this show transitioned into having no studio audience better than any other talk show.
I still miss the studio audience tho
Just my opinion but I feel like most other shows try too hard to try to be funny so they are dependent on people laughter to make the show seem actually funnier than it really is. When you talk about important and depressing issues you don't have to try so hard to be funny. A few jokes now and then is fine anything more than that you better get a actual comedian and do a comedy show rather than talking about such issues.
No studio audience has somehow turned this show into a dark and depressing investigative report on how fucked up America truly is.
I actually prefer it this way. These topics are no laughing matter and I see no point in sugarcoating it. It’s time to face reality for what it is - dark, depressing, and serious. No more laughing your way out of uncomfortable truths.
Without a doubt, yeah. Seth Meyers might be a somewhat distant second, but John Oliver is definitely in a class of his own. The void is basically _iconic_ at this point lol.
When my great grandmother went to a life care center, she begged me to come see her every day. She said, "They treat you better when they know you've got family."
11 years a LTC worker, this is true
Goddamnit, that’s so fucked up to know that’s something that exists, to know that you may be neglected because you don’t get any visitors or rarely have visitors is completely fucked up.
I can 100% attest to that, the same thing is true in hospitals...
😓😓😓😓😓😢😢😢😢😢😢
it is like that everywhere. Also in court. When you have people covering you, you are less likely to get screwed over. But, it is not a given... 'we' also know those people don't really have a choice. And it depends on many, many other things. I work in healthcare, not in the US though, some of my coworkers are just immensely overworked and they take it out on their clients, their own children, their partner, whatever. It is what a lot of humans do: deflect, point and blame, getting angry over seemingly nothing - as they are walking on their last legs.
The concept of mini-retirement changed my life. I'm no longer waiting for some retirement paradise when I'm 65. It helps to know how to fund the lifestyle. You know, making money while you sip that piña colada by the beach does help. I wouldn't have been able to do it otherwise.
Yeah, people miss that part. You don't jet out to Puerto Rico with your life savings. Proper investing and a good business acumen are big pluses. Invest in the stock market, real estate, build businesses. That's just it.
Safe to say not everybody has the skill to pursue investing. But it's always easy to follow the directions of someone who knows how to i.e an asset manager. You could earn anywhere between 10--40k with the right ones. Online businesses are a good bet too.
I might want to try out a manager this year, but the information on the internet is overwhelming. I know it's not appropriate, but you could mention a good one(s)?
Her name is Sonya Lee Mitchell. Hope that helps
Thanks for this, but I already have a 401(k). You think I'm still eligible to use a financial advisor?
My dad was in a nursing home years ago. Because of living in a rural place, we could only visit him once a week. Coincidentally, the local newspaper came out on the same day as our visiting day. Before our visit, a friend came to the door with a newspaper, saying "why didn't you tell me your dad died?" She showed us our dad's obituary. He'd died after our visit the previous week and had been immediately buried. No one ever told the family he'd died. The nursing home refused to talk to us. Lawyers looked into the case but then said there's nothing they can do. You know how you can trust all of your neighbors in small towns, right? So much for those good ole small-town values. I may never know what happened to my dad, but I know that something was going on at that nursing home.
If they did that...trust me.. your dad died because of something that could of been prevented.
I'm so sorry your family had to go through that.
That is really sad. I would be really confused and probably angry in your shoes. Condolences, your comment really hits hard.
WTF?! There should be a full investigation to find out what happened! Sounds very suspicious. I'm so sorry for your loss! :(
Holy fuck that’s awful
I’m a nurse by day in pediatrics and go home to take over for my mom taking care of my dad with Alzheimer’s. I can’t afford to pay anyone or put him in a home. We’re stuck cause we’re not poor enough for assistance but I don’t make enough to afford help. We’re just surviving one day at a time.
Thank you for your services in the medicial field and for being there for him to help your mom.
Im sorry :(
I can’t imagine how rough that is, but one positive is you’re a nurse and you have skills to help him in ways others do not. I know that’s no solace for you but at least your dad is in a tad better situation.
God bless you and your family❤️
You still want to put him in a home after hearing these horror stories?
I'm an accountant at an not for profit company in New Zealand, one of there division is nursing care facilities. Im originally from Detroit and I am 100% blown away at how the government takes care of thre retirees. Yes the taxes are high here but I'm all honestly its worth it in the long run
New Zealand doesn't even have very high taxes, it's just that people think any tax is bad and "the lower the better" is somehow how it should work.
I only really think the GST is too high here and that the wealthiest should pay more
Hello from Australia, kiwi cousin. I'm in disability support and just wanted to add: long live NDIS.
Imagine that, collective resources helping improve the quality of life for all at the expense of the richest. Will never happen in America. The rich have taken education away from their conservative voter base to convince them that taxes are evil so the poor will continue to prop up oligarchy voluntarily. This is capitalism.
i am in Canada and this is scarily too close for comfort....we have many of these same problems in Canada and we are supposed to have socialized healthcare. Its devastating and all this ends up doing is wasting government dollars. Proper preventative and supportive care in the community actually saves money in the long run. We have a backlog of people in hospitals because they cant go home safely and need nursing home level of care but cant afford anything else. But the people that can afford it dont want to spend their life savings.
When I was very young, my grandmother took me to visit my grand aunt in a nursing home. I will never forget the crying, wailing of the elderly, the smell of unwashed bodies, my aunt pleading to let her out and my grandmother hiding cash in the coffee because then 'the nursing aides won't steal it.' This same place twenty years later, was fined and closed then re-opened. My grandfather said if he was going into one of those places, to 'give him a gun and he would shoot himself.' My grandmother took care of him until he died but she herself ended up in a place like that. One night in December, she tried to escape and ran through the snow with no shoes on. With all this trauma I've experienced, I pray that I die long before I need one of these places.
Which country you stay in?
the effectiveness of prayers is what got 'you'/usa into the situation. try something sensible instead.
Wow. That's horrific
Is it me or nursing homes are an american thing? In Costa Rica, where I live, the worst case scenario could be that some elderly people above 60 years old get abandoned but in their own homes but at least they are retired and receive, depending if they worked with a minimum wage job their whole life, basically a retirement fund equivalent to a minimum wage salary per month until they pass away and public transportation it's free for them.
Do some americans value so little their elderly citizens to belittle them to the point where they should feel that, because they are old and don't need to work anymore, they shouldn't have the right to live at peace inside a house that they own?
Instead of praying for an early death, maybe you could try writing to newspapers, political representatives, tv-shows, or the likes?
It's much more likely to help people who are stuck in nursing homes now.
My dad ended up in a home while I was in college. I remember one day while visiting him, the woman next door to him was screaming for help. I went to go and get a nurse, only to find when they were all busy. And when I finally did find someone, I was met with “oh she’ll be fine”. And that was that.
I took an extra job to get my dad out of there. No way a man who spent his career saving children from abusive homes is gonna spend his twilight years in those conditions. No one should. What a nightmare
Thank you for being so brave and getting somebody out of that hell
I will say, just as devil's advocate, that sometimes people in severe dementia will frequently scream bloody murder for help when there's literally nothing wrong and there's nothing staff can do about it - my uncle was that way in his last year, while the Alzheimer's was taking him over. We looked after him at home, but he'd often start screaming for no reason, or because he no longer recognized us and was convinced we were government agents sent to seize him for various delusionary reasons - demanded to be allowed to go back home, even though he was in his own bedroom of the house he'd lived in for the last 55 years.
I can easily imagine if you're a worker at a care facility where there are actual medical emergencies happening on a regular basis, being told that one of your regular 'screamers' is at it again probably wouldn't hold much weight with you.
And is that an attitude you SHOULD take? No - nothing prevents a 'screamer' from being in actual genuine need of assistance or from having a real emergency - but from a human standpoint, you can at least understand why they perhaps gave the answer they did. It doesn't mean that they by definition just don't give a shit about the resident. It *could* mean that, absolutely, but it's much more likely that this was the result of a long-standing 'boy who cried wolf' situation that the caregivers have simply adjusted to by that point
@@Darasilverdragon Your grandfather was terrified and probably having a massive panic attack like mine used to, the doctors provided anti anxiety meds to combat those attacks. They worked well, you should have had them on hand too, both oral and IV. Rules of patient care state that someone in such a state should have access too or been administered an anti anxiolytic, strong anti anxiety medication. Any patient who is left screaming with no medical intervention is suffering from medical malpractice.
Having these drugs on hand is common and to be expected if caring for dementia or alzheimer's patients.
@@Darasilverdragon Mostly what 999 FINE said
But additionally by my experience, patients in normal nursing homes have lots of reasons to scream. They don't get cleaned and can't move, so their skin literally starts rotting. Whatever medical problems they have usually don't get addressed, which only makes them worse. Take it from an ex-EMT, whose job it was to transport people to and from nursing homes - these places are pretty damn disgusting if you can't shell out insane money for a nice one that's properly staffed. Take it from anyone working in the field: most of us would die before being subjected to the living hell that is a cheap nursing home.
Great job! I would've done the exact same thing. My father is in his last phase now and still living at home with me and his partner splitting the informal care (she's there 3/4 days a week, I'm there the other 3/4 days a week) just so we don't have to go through any of this.
Luckily my country will never be anywhere near as bad as the US (especially the costs), but many places are understaffed and underequipped here too. I'm glad my dad will live his final days in the comfort of his own home
It's chilling when you find out that getting old is on the list of things that you can't afford to do.
Wait till they start talking about retirement plans and insurance
Getting old, dying..it's all for profit.
Getting old is a choice.
Invest in your health, learn everything you can about nutrition and exercise, don’t waist money on non essentials
@@thagodwecreate5179 Getting old is inevitable.
My mom spent most of her life working as an aid in nursing homes. At the last facility she worked at, she would tell me about how all these horrible stories. one time after she clocked in for her morning shift she found the night shift had left a resident in the hall the entire night. Forgot to put her to bed and I guess no one ran the hall like they're supposed to, so no one saw her. My mom said when she found her the bottom of her wheelchair was leaking waste onto the floor because she hadn't been changed for hours. so she was just left there sitting in her own urine and feces the entire night. That's not the only story either, but my mother honestly had an internal struggle when she decided to leave that place, knowing no one else was going to pick up the slack she was already scrambling and hurting her body trying to pick up, due to being understaffed and the staff that was there didn't do their jobs adequately. The nursing home she worked at was considered nicer too because it was privately run so they had higher standards than the state, but no one in those facilities enforces the rules due to being scared of loosing the little staff they already had. Super disturbing and sad, the whole thing.
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that's terrible... my dad spent his last days in a palliative care centre, and I ordered a gingerale from glen the care worker (I'll never forget his name) for my dad. He passed and we're still waiting on that gingerale...
Thing is, the same people work at all the facilities, so there are going to be good ones and bad ones no matter where you go. When they get tired of the management at one place, they just get a job at another. And even the better facilities are still bad. (And they lie about their services to get you in. You don't find out how the place is really run until it's too late.)
Wow!😢
I remember working with a girl who was doing volunteer work at a nursing home tell me story of a woman that was being ignored, her support hose were cutting off her circulation and she was in pain no one was helping her to remove them.
I’m a nursing student, when my parents said my grandmother was going to a Nursing Home last year and no one was able to take care of her. I advocated my Grandmother and told my parents that that would be unacceptable bc I knew why. She’s with us and we all take care of her. I rather she be here with us than these for profit facilities.
Hi Kevin martinez". You must have Graduated with GPN by now. or are you going for your LPN or RN . Sure many here would be in full interest to hear from you ?
"How a society treats its most vulnerable is always the measure of its humanity."
Hey google what does "Humanity" mean?🤔
@@themeanestkitten how humane the society is
I've heard the same thing about prisoners - although I guess you could argue that they are a society's most vulnerable
@@visiblerat they might not be the most vulnerable, but prisoners are the ones with the lowest esteem in the eyes of the country, so their condition is a good metric for a country's standards for it's people
USA humanity scale = NULL
As a CNA working in long term care facilities for over 4 years, I was ECSTATIC to finally see someone spotlight the horrors of this scam industry!
Our elders deserve SO MUCH BETTER!!!
What's y'alls nurse to patient ratio there? The worst I've seen is 1 to 20, and I thought that was pretty horrifying, sad its even worse in some places. I work EMS and have to pick patients up from some places and it pisses me off how these people get treated. A few years into my career I had a serious conversation with an LVN about what the heck was going on and found out about how terrible the ratio was. A lot harder to be mad at the nurses working there when the system is set up to burn you out as soon as possible by giving you a job that it is impossible to do to the quality a lot of people want to do. I don't envy your job at all and sincerely hope things get better, the elderly in those facilities are mostly forgotten by the rest of society.
I remember one time very early in my career I dropped off a patient at a nursing home who needed 1:1 care due to psych issues. When we got there with the patient, the nurse in charge refused to take the patient citing that they didn't have the staff. It became this big issue because their admin accepted the patient from the hospital and we were kind of in the middle of this fight. At the time I was pretty incredulous that the nurse in charge could even do that, but years later having learned more about the situation there really paints that situation in a different light. Changes the question asked to how greedy could the admin be to f**k over the nursing staff that hard when they were already at about 1:20 ratio or worse. They weren't a very big place too, so they had like 3 nurses there at night. Would have dropped their ratio to 1:30 at best. Imagine that. They wound up taking the patient after about 45 minutes to an hour of us standing around waiting and some sort of fight going on in the back ground with admin and supervisors and hospital folks on phone calls.
I don't think I could handle working at one of those places for over 4 years, I've gotten in trouble for making a stink due to a messed up situation a few times now and I don't doubt the admin for those places make easy ways to fire people in the hiring contract. Ugh.
I almost became a CNA Covid hit and I'm glad I did not get stuck working in a nursing home.
Agreed. I remember that my family was SUPER lucky with what place we chose for my grandmother (who had Alzheimer's and a drug addiction), and though I was young at the time, I could tell by comparison to other places I had gone to for volunteering that it was much better. I really hope people start treating the elderly with respect and revere them, instead of treating them like prisoners who need to be controlled or contained.
@@Bradgilliswhammyman If you want to be a CNA, work at the hospital or for homecare patients. Or you can do CMA and work at Drs offices. The best thing is to become RN, eventually.
I worked in the kitchens at one of those luxury ones, don't envy those wealthy elderly. They just get neglected and wind up dying alone and uncared for on marble floors.
When we found out that Mom had a terminal illness, I promised her that I'd do everything in my power to keep her home as long as possible. I must admit that it was the hardest thing I have ever been through in my life but I wouldn't change it for anything in this world. My Mom didn't have to endure needless tests and/or procedures that wouldn't have extended her life anyway. She took her last breath lying comfortably in her hospital bed, in the middle of her livingroom surrounded by her loved ones. She left this world on her own terms and with the most beautiful toothless smile I've ever seen. It was a peaceful transition and although it almost broke me physically and mentally, I was honored to be her caretaker as well as her baby girl.💔 😇💜
That's an amazing work you did there; I think you can be proud of that.
I think what enrages me most about nursing homes is that the unintentional neglect isn't happening because there isn't enough money, but because they are being run for profit, so people who have no clue about the hard work and suffering involved make cuts to up the profits, and their own career.
Those people, as far as I'm concerned, belong into prison.
I’m glad you had the means to care for your mother. This is the way it should be. Unfortunately with income inequality caring for a parent isn’t always an option for those who do not have means to house and care for them themselves.
My step dad died of cancer, just a month and a half ago. I'm very thankful to be in Canada. Yes, we did end up needing to do much of his care, ourselves, but we had carers coming to our home 6 days per week, we had nurses and palliative care coming to teach us how to do everything needed (change his lines, inject his meds, keep him on oxygen, etc etc etc). We even had "relief" people, who would come to supervise him, if we had to go out.
He - thankfully - did not last in that state for long. My mom was too stressed and sleep deprived to keep up with waking up every two to four hours to keep him medicated and comfortable. And he would have never wanted my brother or I to be doing the more "embarrassing" tasks for him. 😔
It's definitely not easy, even if you've been trained well and have plenty of help. Especially during the pandemic. 😣 But we felt a lot better, knowing we could call for advice at any time.
He was a really good man, and a better father than my bio dad ever was. He deserved so much better than how he died. But we did everything we could for him, and we had a lot of help along the way. We'll miss him forever, but we're glad he's not suffering anymore. 😥
THANK YOU JOHN OLIVER. I have been a CNA for 10 years and not one thing in this video was exaggerated. Needs attention immediately.
2007 criminal capitalist world financial crash
Sadly, all John said is spot on. The stories we CNA's could tell. Nothing he said was fabricated.
Thanks so much for all you do! Such an important and under-appreciated job!
Elder care and early education staff are also underpaid and exploited
same! so glad he covered it.
+ Pennsylvanians: Tell Acting Health Secretary Beam we need better staffing in nursing homes!
PA has the nation's 3rd highest COVID nursing home death rate. We've lost over 12,000 nursing home residents to COVID-19. PA has not updated its nursing home regulations in nearly 30 years.
Email Sec. Beam today with this form! And follow Nurses of PA on social media!
+ Non-Pennsylvanians: For safe staffing campaigns in your state, look up your state/local nurses' association and/or National Nurses United.
Hi there! EMT here. One thing John forgot to mention: Nursing homes get docked "points" every time they need to call 911, so many homes will purposely neglect to call emergency services when a resident desperately needs help. Instead, they'll call a transport service to slowly put-put the patient to the hospital. Trouble breathing? Sharp pain in your chest? Fell out of bed and bleeding? Too bad, wait 2 hours for a transport to pick you up and bring you to an ER waiting room to check you in behind everyone else waiting to see a nurse.
If it's one thing I learned in this field, I pray to God I die before I need to go to a nursing home or an assisted living facility.
wtf
thank you for your service but what in the flying hell i hope you're kidding
thats not true
Theres no "points." They can have a bad percentage if they have a high readmission rate to the hospital but that means hospitals are less likely to send residents to the place
Amen. Me too.
My dad passed away after being on the waiver waiting list for a year. We theorized the government does this so that those in the list will age out by dying. This segment validates that theory.
I was forced to take care of my father, dying of cancer, alone, on benefits. While my wealthy family mocked me for not “doing the right thing” and throwing him in a home... when I’d never be able to see him again because of Covid
God bless you. You did the right thing. And that will stay with you. And haunt them.
KM Hemmans The UA-camr
They'll get theirs, evil has a way of coming around.
You are rich in the soul.
Well, if that's not your relatives trying to talk away their own guilty conscience ...
Sadly, I've heard that story before: one gets stuck with taking care of a relative, and the others quickly pull the "hey, it's your own fault, you could have stuck him/ her into a home".
I know that taking care of your father was a huge task; I hope very much that you have the opportunity to recover from it. And be proud of it!
I'm not old, but I am disabled. The horror of what many facilities do to vulnerable people is always at the back of my mind and it's about time we talk about it. Just because people are no longer "of use to the workforce" doesn't mean we aren't people who deserve quality of life
I agree. The problem is that business and politicians dont because if you cant make them money then they dont give a fuck
The contrast of the comment and the profile picture is striking.
@@john.dough. duality of man, baby
Its almost like people in general have value outside of being a cog in a corp machine or something.... Hmmm
Sadly we are only valued by what we do for a living,Artists and other creative have.very little value in America.,Not 9-5 you are worthless
“You’re probably wondering why there are pictures of ponds.” I’m guessing someone fell in and drowned. “He got eaten by alligators.” Well, that took an even darker and sadder turn.
ugh my home state to. shits rough yo
Well if it helps, he probably died quicker than if he drowned because of the “death roll”.
This was my exact thought process lmao
poor gaters, the guy was probably all gristle
I’d just call it more exciting. We like our gators, and what’s life without a little risk?
Water moccasins scare me more.
Just had a visit with my Grandma yesterday, who is likely going to need to move in with my mom due to her age. My stomach was churning as I watched this, imagining how if my mom and her weren't close that she could've wound up in a horrible place like in this video. My heart aches for all the seniors who have to live through this.
I’m not saying your wrong. But do consider that some people it’s not a matter of if they are close or not. My dad has cancer and is in his 50s so he isn’t in any condition to care for my grandma (his mom) who has severe Parkinson’s and dementia. But him and his mother have always been close. She helped raise me bc she lived down the street. She taught me so much about life and she even helped me get a head start in school. We just don’t have the resources or ability to care for her like one these homes. We try to be aware of her care and we have raised hell over so many things that the staff must hate us. But ultimately we have seen them begin to treat her and other residents with more respect.
I’m just giving you a perspective…honestly I wish I could take care of my grandma, but I’m tryna put myself through college bc that’s what she’s always told me to do. I hope everything works out with your grandma and enjoy every moment with her :)
I’m an RN in a nursing home. This hits 💯. It’s just a completely broken system. Thanks for covering it. Hopefully with awareness can come change.
As a Paramedic who frequents assisted living facilities and nursing homes. He's spot on. It's so rare you find a facility that's remotely competent. Sweet Jesus if only the general population knew.
Yeah... I got into EMS believing I was going to "help people" and now I know that I'm wrong. Helping people in this country is against the point. What a learning experience.
The only thing that matters is money.
@@scooprussell930 So you agree with the Bible. "The love of money is the root of all evil".
Correction. if only the general population cared enough
@@PaperiLiidokki Correction: if only the people in charge actually had a f*cking heart
I watched this with my grandma and she agrees with everything, but she wanted me to comment: “please stop making jokes about having relations with wolf plates”
sorry, wolf plates are the new adam driver. and no, I don't mean he's going to be making wolf plate sex jokes for the rest of the year. I mean that a wolf plate will be cast in the leading antagonist role in the next star wars trilogy.
based and platefetishpilled
Put your phone down!
Your grandma is my hero 🦸♀️
Yes, Gam Gam
I love the fact that these nurses are honest enough to report this situation.
Reading these comments is terrifying but so educational. I wonder what the solution is if there isn't a huge change in this industry. Our elders are crucial to our society and they deserve the best. It just seems like the moment you're not a perfectly healthy young worker you're deemed expendable by society. It's heartbreaking and humbling as someone who wants to grow old. Thank you to everyone who shared their stories here.
How are they crucial?
As a CNA of 10 years who is now in nursing school...thank you for this segment. Thank you so much.
Godspeed to you. I've been a CNA for 15+ years, and recently was witness to a coworker get her nursing license. I know it's not easy, and often thankless, but it means a lot to the people you're caring for, and their loved ones. (even if sometimes it *really* doesn't feel like it.)
Thank you for choosing nursing
Thank you for your service
Here here! OT staff in SNF here. I agree lady. My sister sent it to me and I sent it to everyone I know
I'm an engineer now because the 24 hour nursing home clinicals I had to do in nursing school turned me off so much that I quit school.
I work in an assisted living facility for adults with mental illnesses including dementia and schizophrenia and we receive no training. Everything I have learned is by doing my own research. I know not everyone tries to educate themselves to help these clients and that’s the sad reality I face everyday. It truly is exhausting- mentally, physically and emotionally.
That's why I shake my head everytime I hear people sing the praises of how great America is. How we treat our poor, elderly and mentally ill is telling of how not great we are. Why would anyone _want_ to live in a society that will basically throw you away when you're no longer of any use? Especially after you've already done your part to contribute. I shouldn't have to rely on my children (that I don't even have) to take care of me when I can no longer take care of myself. I'm scared of being old in this country. I have no qualms about tax money going to programs to insure our sick and elderly are comfortable and taken care of.
I totally agree with you. Our system for taking care of the elderly is horrendous.
@@handlethesehands So because somewhere is shittier than the USA, it makes the USA great. I love this kind of logic.
They don't have to pay more for untrained workers.
@@handlethesehands I didn't say other countries weren't bad or worse, I just said it's not great because of the way the poor and elderly are treated. Pretty much a global problem, though.
Our grandfather was in a place that was $4k/mo and they neglected him and provided subpar care until he had a fatal accident. Feels like you can't trust anyone but yourself. We aren't even in our 40s yet and we're already planning on how we'll manage taking care of my Mother In Law so she can live the end of her life with care and dignity.
I cared for my brother when he was under going treatment for cancer. Flushing his pic line and administering inter-venious antibiotics were only a few things that i did for him. He was transferred to an end of life facility when it was known he was dying. I couldn't care for him at that point, it was too hard. Now I'm caring for my 81 year old mother who has had w stroke over a year ago. I'm lucky that all the stroke effected was some strength in her right side and her speaking ability. I am able to care for her at home for now. I do this out of love but it is taking a toll on me emotionally.
My wife works as a CNA in a nursing facility. Things are really bad right now, and she's running up and down three flights of stairs watching and caring for nearly 30 people by herself, all while wearing a n95 and a face shield with asthma and a heart murmur herself... All for just under $27,000 a year.
At one point, about 53% of her residents and 25% of the facility staff were diagnosed with covid-19, and they were congratulated by the health department for being below average.
Yes, at one point she caught the virus herself, and things got a little rough but she pulled through.
Congratulated, but it stopped there I'm sure...sucks bro...I don't know what else to say...stay strong for the both of you.
wtf.. 27k.. I pay my cashier and kitchen workers basically 25k+.. and your wife's job is miles harder it should be like 100k.. makes me want to open a dam facility and actually treat people right both the elderly and staff..
Not that I want to discredit your wife, but a lot of states have mandatory staffing levels and 1 CNA to 30 residents sounds suspicious because in many states that would be hella illegal.
I know this because my wife is the ward clerk at a skilled facility.
That said if she is having to manage 30 residents by herself, she needs to call the state nursing board anonymously because it sounds like some super illegal shit is going on and that facility either needs to lower its census or be shut down for being unable to adequately meet state guidelines.
I’m a nurse and right now I have 40 patients to take care of and 20 of them are rehab patients it’s a fucking nightmare
I've 2 friends that are cna's, and their experiences mirror your wife's.
Nurse here, left my first job in a nursing home after being assigned 40 patients, 26 of them in post acute level of care.
I just don't understand how that is actually legal, even after the video. I like get it intellectually but on an emotional level...
*Smdh*
overworking in its most extreme form. that's an impossible task. solidarity
We need a massive plan for this
That’s what happens with privatization.
@@tchalla7828 exactly. It's disgusting.
when he said it is easy for anyone to start one, I was half expecting him to reveal they started their own lol
Good grief. I think that might just be where HBO's legal team would pull the breaks.
"What have you really learned from this video?" As someone outside the US with a close, older friend who is being forced by circumstance into assisted living, far too much and simultaneously nothing I didn't already fear. Thank you for raising the issue, John.
Calling it now: John is going to buy that wolf plate by next week.
It's earlier than that.
If you saw the full episode, he already has it 😉
I think they already bought it and know it will arrive soon. The canal was shut down, give it a little time....lol surely there isnt a stash of those in an Amazon warehouse here...but I wouldnt be surprised. People are stupid.
He'll bring it from home.
You know he already owns it
It’s almost like doing everything “For Profit” like schools, universities, long-term care, etc. isn’t a good idea.
Whoa slow down comrade LOL
But yeah :/
Welcome to America, land of the free (unless you're poor).
Late stage capitalism BABY
America is addicted to capitalism
Human trafficking much???
My mother has worked in nursing homes for nearly 30 years now. For as long as I can remember, she would come home from work everyday and have a new story of mistreatment of staff by administration and neglect of residents by staff. My mother has said countless times that she will never willingly go into a nursing home when she gets older because she knows what goes on in them all too well. This was something very important to hear and see for me
My dad had ALS and for the last 5-6 years of his life my mom was his primary caregiver, she was at home making sure he was okay almost 24/7 and only got to go out when the VA caregiver came once a week for about 4 hours. She is the strongest and most compassionate person I have ever known.
I'm stuck between being happy that John uploaded and feeling dread that John *uploaded*
More depressing is that we spend more on the military than the next 10 countries combined, but can't afford our elderly care. There's a detailed analysis on how the military industrial complex controls America on my channel.
*Before Covid*
“Welcome to Last Week Tonight! Let’s get silly!”
*During Covid*
“Our country has so much depressingly fucked up shit that it’ll make you feel dreadful...”
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it's perfect if you're not American
happy that he uploaded and not much to dread because he isn't talking about problems related to me
Worked as a nursing assistant for almost a year at barely above minimum wage, and it was the hardest job I've ever had in my life, both physically and emotionally. Both they and the people they care for deserve much better.
Virginia, CNA work is already so hard, and it's inhumane under the current system. Staff and patients both deserve better.
+ Pennsylvanians: Tell Acting Health Secretary Beam we need better staffing in nursing homes!
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Email Sec. Beam today with this form! And follow Nurses of PA on social media!
+ Non-Pennsylvanians: For safe staffing campaigns in your state, look up your state/local nurses' association and/or National Nurses United.
As a kid, my grandparents looked after me and I enjoyed doing meals on wheels with my Nan. A lot of the elderly liked to tell stories and I had mutism, so I enjoyed listening.
In my teens I was interested in studying nursing and working in nursing homes. Then I saw the pay and conditions and realized society doesn't care about us when we grow old. I opted to work in logistics instead and I get paid well and society cares about how goods get to them.
If nursing homes treated staff and residents decently, I'd be interested in going back for that nursing degree. Until then, it's already a somewhat sad field and it's too much when you include how they treat staff and residents. So maybe that will never happen.
@@runningfromabear8354 for me, it's about people. You yourself value your wealth a bit more than the care of others. I switched careers a few years ago. It takes effort - apparently no one is willing to put that in.
When your country has such resistance towards nationalising healthcare, advocating for unions and even basic support for a minimum wage, you simply have no options for a rising tide to raise your ships. You have no ability to lobby for a raise in wage, better support for your own health (whether that comes from regulating and providing more flexibility for work hours, providing counselling and access to therapy, or increasing amounts of leave), or raising the standards of the equipment and facilities you have to work with. The end result is a system that only looks after those who can afford it (i.e. those who can live in the 2Chainz one with Versace plates) or are lucky, and screws everyone else. This is the thing that is most broken about America and, sad to say, no one who is president will ever be able to fix it. The businesses that have thrived on this system will never let it happen.
Been a CNA for over 15 years. It can be hard but also rewarding. I remember being worked to the bone for years as I proved myself. Until I became so well enough established locally by reputation as an excellent caregiver that I could pick own my schedule, etc. Now I look forward to going to work, (I'm there now...I have lots of time to myself lol), because I work nights and I am night owl and main task is to stay up at night and help client to and front the bathroom twice a night. The rest of the 12 hours are mine as long as I'm ready in case she buzzes for me which she hardly ever does. We get along very well and are constantly cracking each other up over some such silliness or other between nightly bathroom visits. About once every few weeks I'll get someone calling asking me to come work in their facility /home, etc. I politely decline for now. I'm happy as a one-one caregiver and wouldn't return to the stress of multiple client care if...well...if you paid me to. Lol.
Johns topics are so important and informative . He does a great show .
I worked in a long term care facility in Canada. Just as bad. Never put your parents in one if you can avoid it. And if you can't, you need to visit them every day.
Every day? Jesus who am I, Superman?
@@fromthebackseat4865 there were a few people who came to see their loved ones every day. Even with full time jobs and children etc.
Where? I ran a seniors housing organization in Alberta and I call bullshit. We had everything from independent living to designated assisted living and we give great care. Our employees are local and many of their relatives are in the home. It was covered under the housing act so free for low income seniors, and every senior was involved in our activities where our aides interact everyday with every senior.
@@grandenauto3214 perhaps it's different in a small town. But not the case in a large city with the government run facility I worked in nor the stories I heard from people transferring their relatives out of private facilities in the area. One of whom had 3 counts of abuse against one of my clients who has transfered to our facility during my time there. And nowhere in my area is the cost free for low income seniors. The cost is set by the province and government pensions just cover the cost with maybe a couple hundred dollars extra.
@@ksarah1162 this wasn’t just small town my organization covered a large area and being government run we had to follow guidelines.... private facilities don’t, which is why the outbreak of COVID in private facilities is high, but in government run we haven’t had any in Alberta that I’m aware of, my parents are in a facility in Manitoba and they don’t have the same level as care as we do.
Having worked in multiple nursing homes this is all too true. I literally had a breakdown one day before work because I was so overworked, under valued, and physically couldn't give the care to my work that the residents deserved.
My wife works dietary in nursing/ALF places. She worked at one crappy place like that. She would come home complaining about how things were there. I told her goto the press and get a new job. She got a job at another ALF (this place IS 5* rated by me..I'd live there) she loves it there. They gave her $100 bonus for just going to work on time during a real bomb of a blizzard. Some places just have crappy management/owners but the best workers until they burn out for watching crappy management/owner work
Matthew Stephens I am so sorry you went through that. Did you quit that job? How are you doing now?
Thank you for your work. It's hard work for very little pay. I pray God rewards you greatly.
I work in the medical field in Europe and all the things you listed point out to a burn-out syndrome it happens often with people who work in care,if not treated properly it can evolve into a depression.
I feel you. I work dietary but am in constant contact with nursing staff and they are 100% overworked, underpaid and under valued.
On a good day there's 1 cna for every 10-15 residents. 1 med tech, LPN or RN for every 2 units(20-30 total).
I sat with an lpn on her break after a shift last week so she literally had a shoulder to cry on. These girls LOVE their residents and the work they do but god damn its gotta be tough when you're caring 24/7 but no ones caring for you.
My mother used to work in long-term care and she really cared about the people she took care of. She said the worst parts were watching nurses do their best to take care of more people than they were physically able to, watching elderly people slowly lose their dignity in a system that didn't care about them, and having to tell people that they couldn't afford to live there anymore when there was literally their only option. She went from a lifelong conservative to a stanch universal healthcare advocate. She ended that job doing the work of two and a half people because of constant cost-cutting.
When we do surveys of providers or exit interviews for my state on support coordinators, which is what we call what your mom did, one of the main reasons they leave is the pay they make combined with the heartbreak they go through is too much and that's an aspect people don't understand. These type of front line service jobs have an incredible emotional aspect to them in which we ask people to endure an incredibly emotional job while often paying them minimum wage when they can go get another job, paid the same if not more without the emotional weight then wonder why we can't retain people.
@@jamesmarhen Another one of my biggest issues is the employee turnover!
I HATE it for the residents! They're in such a vulnerable position to begin with and then on top of that they have different faces tending to their most intimate needs day in and day out!!!
I worked at the same place for 3 years and my long term residents became like family. I actually looked forward to going to work most days and it always felt so good to see the relief on residents' faces when they knew I was there.
@@petek7951 The way they snatch every last penny from the elderly for care they are not even receiving is criminal.
@@petek7951 LTC insurance is also written with a LOT of rules and can be very onerous to use. I work in social services, had a lady with LTC insurance that she applied for when she moved into ALF. Two years on, they have still to contribute any financial assistance.
I'm a CNA who has gotten out of the field after getting to a point where I knew I was being forced to put my residents in danger. I worked 6p-6a, so from dinner to when its legally acceptable to start getting people up. I was staffed 39:1 from 10p-6, but I had accepted the assignment for 6-6, being told I'd have someone else. They just wouldn't tell me that was the nurse who was also 39:1 for just her job. That was the same night I lost one of my favorite people. He was a resident at that LTCF for 16 years. He was a biochemist in the army in his youth. He spent years building a memory garden for all of his friends he lost during his stay. Two weeks before he passed, he told me how the pandemic just fucked his life. He had a schedule that kept him active and getting the social interaction he went there for, that all stopped at the blink of an eye. And even at that point, knowing he was on his deathbed, his kids couldn't see him because he wasn't on Hospice yet. His hospice would have started the next morning.
Even worse yet, he passed at 2am. His body was still there at 6 am because my nurse was so overworked I couldn't wake her up. That was the moment in healthcare that forced me to see that my safety and wellbeing is more important than a paycheck. Facilities care about the money. Not the residents. Not the staff. Staff care about residents. That's why 70% of CNAs will used their own hard earned money to buy their residents foods they can't get in nursing homes, clothes to replace their holey ones, new shoes, entertainment items (games, puzzles, coloring books, crocheting or knitting stuff, scrapbooking), all the way down to wet wipes. Heck, at the same place, I bought a resident really colorful hair dye because she loved my hair so much. We had 7 60-70 year olds running around with pink, purple, and/or blue hair🤣
“Put ur phone down while I’m talking to you”
Me watching this on my phone
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And just for the record, medicare and Disability benefits will cover the costs of putting young adults with physical handicaps and neurological disabilities in group homes for the disabled but they won't pay for programs for those people to work, be independent members of their community and get health care at their own homes, even though the former is more expensive than the latter in the long run.
I love how the week i get a job at an assisted living home, John Oliver literally does a piece of long term care. Thanks John.
I hope it's a nice place, if not I hope you have nerves of steel, I have a mom who used to work at one and nephew who now works at a nursing home and I hear similar stories.
Unless you want your soul broken, find another job.
Are there aligators?
@@heyokexd2542 100% agree. I know its a huge burden but her future self will be so thankful that she didn't commit herself to years of suffering for the same pay as a Mcdonald's supervisor.
Be the change you want to see.
As someone who helped take care of one of his grandmothers at home whilst in college and then later my mom, this was a hard episode to watch. The amount of work, stress, physical strain and absolute mental/emotional pain was immense. Did I hate my life during those times? Yup, would I do it all again? In a fucking heartbeat I would. Doctors gave us books and pamphlets but there was never any training involved, just lots of trail and error. It's not like any kind of training could prepare a grandson to hear their grandma cry in pain and tell them they wish they could just die to stop their everyday misery. Reliving that nightmare with mom during her last few months was just agonizing and I really wish we had some kind of better system dealing with long term care for our elderly. I know a lot of people write off old folks for whatever reason but things hit differently when that old person has the face of someone who you know thought the world of you since the moment you were born.
I felt all of this. Sorry about your grandmom and your mom. This country needs to do better for its' people.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I completely sympathize. The experience changed my perspective on life completely and where we will all be at the end of our lives. We CANNOT continue to ignore and neglect our elders!
I fear I’m facing this soon with my father. I understand
I know that pain so well. I took care of my dad from age 15 to 24. When my family did finely get some help the care giver we were assigned didn't believe in masks and was a trump supporter who ended up giving my whole family covid. Ultimately killing my dad. It was the hardest thing I have ever done and if he was still alive I would still be doing it. If given a chance I would do it all over again. I loved my dad so much and the pain stress and fear that I had taking care of him in exchange for getting to keep him alive was worth it to me... I miss him so much :(
I am going through what you've experienced and shared. Thank you for your truths. I took comfort in your words.
You tackle the big and difficult issues, please keep using your platform to highlight these woeful American experiences.
Glad you're here, thank you, John!
My mother and I provided long term care for my grandfather during his last five years. It was extremely difficult, but I don't doubt that he would have been dead within 6 months in a long term care facility
I've been a CNA for 10 years and barely make 25k a year.. and everything mentioned in this segment is so fucking true
With all the negative news Amazon is getting, truth is even Amazon pays its workers MORE and works them LESS than SNFs and ALFs.
I quit being a CNA and started working retail. I work way less hours, have barely a fraction of the stress, and I end up making more at the end of the month.
When you put it that way, it shows how UNBELIEVABLY fucked up our system is. Retail and food service sucks due to entitled assholes coming through constantly and having to deal with a generally unappreciative audience (probably a better word there but first that came to mind). Nursing homes based on what I’ve been told by a friend and seeing here, are a different level of soul crushing. All of this shouldn’t even be surprising considering how America cares about its veterans.
Now I’m curious why some people out here spending 60K-100K a year to put someone in a home when you can pay like two CNAs that money directly to get individually directed care that still pays them better.
Medicaid should be covering THAT.
@@DrGandW you are right, but you also have to pay for food, accomodations and meds which will increase the price.
When I heard that the facilities are run for profit, I was like “yeah, here we go again, it’s one of those stories.”
Yea we got lucky with my one grandmother her care facility was part of local hospital one or rare rare few good nursing facilities tho they only take patients from there rehab and then determine if they need long term after rehab
Give someone money and he'll buy some stuff. Give someone TONS of money and they'll use it to bend society into multiplying said money.
Very mixed feelings about capitalism. On one hand it means I get to live in relative wealth (at least as long as I have a job). On the other hand it means the people with the most money and fingers in pies will always win, no matter how fucked up the things they're doing are.
@Luís Andrade when its for essentiel care: most definetly!!!
"For profit" and "care" are mutually exclusive.
@Luís Andrade Come back when you have an argument that isn't on a child's level.
THANK YOU so much for calling the broken system out. My mom went into the hospital, after being in her home, for A-fib and then ended up having her gall bladder removed. She has/had mild to moderate dementia and the doctor decided while in surgery to do a more major/invasive surgery which left her brain with more severe dementia. After a month in the hospital they sent her to a Post-Acute hours from where we live. She has been there now for a few months and they just did her bladder retraining so she isn't on a catheter and only because of me pushing and pushing for it. Medicare only pays for the first 20 days and then 21-100 IF you already have been paying for a special supplemental insurance - which my mom has been paying $250 a month for years for that. What she ALSO needed was LONG TERM INSURANCE- So now what? She has spent everything and is now on Medi-cal. I've called several assisted living centers and we can't afford that $5500 and up. She was an RN for 40 years, her husband and father were both veterans - so much service given and now seeing this makes me ill!
My mother was in a rehab after her stroke. I was there everyday for the 1 or 2 months she is in there. She fell out of bed, trying to clean her tray, after we had left for the day, after a meal, and had to deal with a neighbor who had constant visitors talking all day and night next to her. I took her home once we got her eating normal food again. She has been here with us the last 5 years with minimal money to take care of her. The Nursing homes charge $250 a day, and more depending on amount of care they needed. they gave her minimal Physical therapy to get her walking again. The administrators charge anywhere from $3,000 to over $10,000 a month for crappy care. There was a man who would constantly call for a Nurse every single day. It was very sad. I don't blame the caregivers, nursing assistants, who do the hands on work. I blame administrators for charging so much money and not paying the people who do the hands on care enough. And not having enough staff to take care of patients and not paying them enough.
"For profit" and "care" are basically the opposite things.
Unfortunately, I believe your comment to be accurate.
Same as health care. For profit means just that - they're not in it to provide care, it's FOR the PROFIT.
They arent opposite things when people know what they are buying. The problem is that we ignore the problems and that allows the companies to get away with a lot.
Now, having said that, profit certainly does not *promote* care. It is, at it's very best, not harmful. I believe that our elderly require better than that.
If that's true why do luxury care facilits exist?
@@klyesam4006 what percentage of people can afford that though? Everyone gets old, very *very* few can afford luxury care.
I am a nurse in a long term care nursing home. I have very few residents we care for who could be cared for at home. One the the biggest complications is the round the clock needs of most of our residents. We monitor for incontinence, assist with bed mobility (to prevent bed sores), monitor for wandering and more. I agree the long term care industry needs changes but I would say the biggest issues are for profit business models, staffing ratios, and low medicaid reimbursement for care especially dementia. You should spend more time on the problems in dementia care because on top of being the most at risk there care is very poorly reimbursed because a lot of there needs are not reimbursable. Because dementia care has such poor reimbursement it’s often a neglected area in a home, first place to pull staff for shortages, last place to be cleaned, first place to cancel activities and last place for upgrades and remodeling.
Thank you for what you do.
I work in an nursing home and the staffing issues are ridiculous! We have a good amount of residents who could get by with at home care but the other 2/3rds genuinely need round the clock expert care. I actually agree with a lot of what John says in this video but people will still need nursing homes as long as Alzheimer’s dementia exist. What nursing homes need is better staffing because the fact that people need to be in nursing homes for extra round the clock care but a facility will still assign two people to twenty residents is mind boggling! The staff lost during the pandemic has already narrowed down staff enough but overworked and frozen CNA’s aren’t very eager to stick around let me tell you! And the more reliable staff end up picking up and being frozen till they’re pulling shifts that can last two or three days! If I have to hear “But we don’t need THAT many people for one floor!” one more time I’m going to ask why there are two staff assigned to 15 residents when four of those residents need at least two staff just to get out of bed!
Please do an expose about childcare. How we treat young children, the elderly, those with disabilities, and those who care for them in this country is a disgrace.
All those arms around the elderly is clearly meant to keep them from speaking up about the horrible nursing home conditions. "Keep quiet, Larry, or there won't be any pudding for a month."
Reminds me of Happy Gilmore. Remember? His mom in that nursing home with that sadistic worker?
"Can you get me a warm glass of milk? It helps me sleep"
"No, but I can get you a warm glass of 'shut the hell up'. Now you will go to sleep, or I will put you to sleep"
As someone who works in Adult Protective Services, it’s disgusting how little protection society provides the most vulnerable in our community. When things are “for profit” only the rich win.
It's odd that the rich include a 30 year old woman who sounds like a 12 year old Kardashian.
The myth that "the private sector can do it better" needs to be squashed.
We pay taxes where does it go
Im not a citizen that pays medicare taxes that i wont be able to get
@@92_09 That's exactly what you are. Unless you're part of the 1% (or their cronies,) that's what we all are.
Ah, my weekly "This country is broken, heres another example backing up that fact" with John Oliver
Gilded 3rd world country, baby.
examples of things to do something about*. there's a whole list of shit to fix and it's laid out nicely by John Oliver
@@hamiltoneu I prefer to call it “the worlds most advanced 3rd world country” or “a 3rd world country with a Gucci-belt”
Also, “Here are some basic reforms that could really help alleviate these problems, but our government is too corrupt to even get the basics right.”
So vote for joe biden.... nothing will change because of him....
Thank you so much for featuring this issue John! This is a serious and deadly problem in this country and no media outlets or politicians about it. Families, unfortunately, can no longer stay home and take care of their loved ones 24/7. However, nursing homes are overcrowded and understaffed. Then there are the predatory private nursing homes of which you speak. We have many distressed people bring their loved ones with dementia to the ER with baseline systems. In such a situation, we cannot admit them because there is no acute issue, just their baseline issue. Theydon’t meet the criteria for admission in that instance. Therefore, they get sent back home in the same dangerous situation they were in in the first place.this has got to stop! It’s dangerous and inhumane to the patient! Thank you again!
In Canada we have the same problem. We as a society have to treat our elderly a lot better. I say start by doing away with these for profit homes all together. They are a cancer.
I've been a CNA for 10 years and this is the most truth I have seen in reporting on SNF and ALF. I moved to independent provider because I couldn't stand the neglect that happened in the SNF I worked in.
Keep on them John!
The same me! Moved in Arizona to work in private homes! Those nursing facilities sucks!
Yup, same here. Private homes all the way at this point.
@@sleepingdogpro The reason a lot of this occurs is because the law prohibits nurses from doing things that make sense. For example, nurses should be allowed to put bars on beds when there is a significant risk or an ongoing pattern (at the very least) of a specific patient falling out of bed: eventually, the person WILL break a hip! They should be acting with good hearts, doing what they know is right. I don't think they should use NEGATIVE discression (harming people, punishing people, scolding people, etc.), but they SHOULD BE USING POSITIVE DISCRESSION and should be allowed to do that, especially if the family approves!!!
I'm a licensed practical nurse in Belgium. Sending love to all caregivers and care receivers!
My mom used to take care of her mother who was suffering from dementia after grandpa died. She used to come every morning during the week after her morning bus routes and get grandma up and ready and feed her, she then go back home and prepare dinner for me and my brothers. She was a strong and dedicated woman to her family. Occasionally I'd accompany her and assisted in caring for grandma, and I can definitely say that it was all a labor of love that I'd rather have done than to send my grandma to a nursing home. As a hispanic family, we would rather keep our elders with us as much as possible and know not to trust strangers with them for good reasons made abundantly clear in this video. Grandma has went to two nursing cares before she died, and one of them was incredibly terrible. Don't worry, she died in her home in peace, back to where she was born, in Mexico, in her sleep, during her final visit to her old place. RIP grandma, glad that we never abandoned you
Seems like every other culture in the world cares more about their elderly than America lol
As an immigrant I can relate. That’s kinD of the norm. Taking care of your elder family members at home. No offense but dumping your parents and grandparents in these horrible places is more of an American thing.
I really appreciate this, but as someone who comes from a partially Hispanic family (my father is Puerto Rican and my mother's father was Mexican) who has a mother in an American elderly home myself and dating someone who has his mother being taken care of at her home by a nurse full time (she is in Italy, so the system is different but still bad outside the USA), I can say there are no easy outcomes to this. I am personally very glad not to be taking care of my mother because it would have ruined my life. It isn't about "abandoning" anyone. My life needs to be lived - my mother went into a nursing home when I was 23 or 24 (I turn 32 later this year), and my partner's brother has been helping take care of their mother since her accident in 2003, and even with someone helping full time at home it isn't enough, and his brother often complains about his life being stolen too, and he is much older. This is a shitty situation for everyone involved, so don't look at this so black and white please.
My mother is a RN and started off as a CNA when she was younger. She doesn’t trust homes at all. My grandfather on my dad’s side was sent to a home (due to his illness being so specific that it was required) and he wasn’t treated well at all. Ever since then, my mother made sure to never send any of my grandmothers to a home. We made sure for her mother that she would never go either. I moved in with her when she was 92 because the college I was going to was near. I could take her out for food, keep an eye on her, and help her for any specific needs. It gave her a sense of independence as well. My mother would come down each week to check on her too and do the dirty work (she works two jobs, hard to balance time). Plus my grandma was able to get her favorite food which was KFC each week because I could drive there, so she was happy. As she got worse, my mom and sister came down more until we moved her in with my mother. Even then she was never going to send her to a home. But, with so much work on my mom and dads plate, they found a CNA that was able to come in a couple times a week to keep an eye on her while my parents were working. The first week was great, the CNA was sweet and my grandmother liked her. Sadly, my grandmother got COVID from her during the first week because one of the CNA’s coworkers she helped the day before. She pasted two months later in December of 2020. The thing is, if we left her in a home and this happened to her, she wouldn’t have been with us or able to live in such a nice space or her home for so long. She had her own bathroom, bedroom, and living area that was right next to the kitchen at my mothers. She would’ve never had anything that nice in the nursing homes she could afford. Even though the CNA’s company fucked us, I’m just glad we were with her till her last breath. She was in hospice at my mothers when she passed and we were all with her. If she was in a home and this happened, she may have died alone. Love you grandma.
It's ironic that we don't have anyone like you in the UK!
CNA in Washington state here. I work for a home care agency that send me to people that need a caregiver. Most of the time I'm sent to people's homes but I've also been sent to hospital rooms for the night to be a one-on-one sitter for an ill person with dementia or to memory care wards of nursing homes to be one particular client's personal watcher for the day, etc.
For about a year now though I've had just one *client currently, a retired school teacher in her early 90s. I am with her from 8pm to 8am four nights a week and she has gone from being stuck in a wheelchair 24 hours a days in an understaffed nursing home after a stroke to being able to almost stand up on her own and walk pretty well with close assist using a walker. This was the result of bi-weekly physical therapy after her family removed her from the nursing home, ( after learning that they were just content to stick her in front of a TV in a wheelchair from sunup to sundown between meals and toileting, (and no, even during transfers they'd limit the time she spent standing to pivot and sit and pushed her everywhere too), and got her involved in the above-mentioned physical therapy, massage therapy, etc.
I'm so very proud of how much my client has progressed and I know she wanted to walk again as much as her family, so much so that she always gives 100% at her therapy sessions. I'm also very proud of my client's family for their advocating skills when needed and I'm very proud to be able to provide care for their loved one that enables them to sleep without worrying about how their mother is being cared for.
*No laws were violated in the crafting of this comment. I am legally allowed to speak about my clients as long as I use vague terms and am careful not to reveal any personal information. Speaking about them as a way to illiterate a point while still keeping their info secure is perfectly okay. Yes, even doctors talk about their patients to other people as long as nothing identifiable is shared. It's one of the ways in which people learn.
"What we need is reform on a national level"
Should just be the title of the show.
Ms. Tops is right.
PREACH ✊️❤️✊️
"Things We Refuse to Do Because We Refuse to Tax The Rich/Cut The Pentagon's Snacks" could be another.
That should be our national motto.
If the United States would be a company, at this point, it might be more reasonable to file for bankrupcy, sell all its assets, and rebuild something new. I don´t think that rotten corpse can be reformed.
My uncle, in the state of Washington, was able to become a licenced care giver and get paid while taking care of my grandmother. After she passed, he went into that as a career for awhile. I have nothing but respect for the people who do that work.
It's unfortunate familiy's don't support their loved ones more. I've had pt family call me to get their mom a glass of water, pulling me away from someone who was having a stroke to do so. Some balance would be nice.
John thank you for educating the public about these important subjects.
I worked in a nursing home for all of six weeks before giving my notice, because the abuse and neglect I was seeing was so horrible that I’d cry in my car every day on the way home. I reported the facility to the Department of Public Health, giving them a full report of everything I had witnessed, including how the director and head of nursing would often cover up things for each other. Absolutely nothing came of it.
the elders are our future selves.That should be motivation for folks to fix this shit before it’s their turn
wealth distances folks, sometimes morally, so that we now have facilities where a few can profit off of this shit daily and not even have to see who they're harming and how, though they might already not care enough about others' lives, even if they were brought into facilities to see the shit they profited from
i agree that it should be motivation for them to fix things, we just also have to deal with folks who focus on their motivation for profit while avoiding any lasting penalties
@@foobarmaximus3506 Interesting view, what do you mean because you're poor? Does this suggest being wealthy is the way to secure a basic retirement in your view if so how wealthy is that? Do you possess the wealth you imagine will gain you the retirement you expect when you can't no longer be productive? And what gives you the confidence in the amount of money or the revenue streams you manage to acquire will be respected by the caretakers of you while their sole interest in you will be to gain wealth in order secure their own salvation in your view? I'm not interested in answers as your political view suggests, I'm interested in knowing have you for your self thought this through and figured it out. cus, I would love to be confident in retirement as you are.
The rich control everything, there will never be change. The rich don't have to worry about places like these.
Cheap stupid people cut the branches they are sitting ! The same like throwing plastics everywhere trashing the planet and not care!
People in this country are terrified of aging and death. That is why we got to this point. It's no different from the practice of sending disabled children to institutions from birth.
What did I learn today?
-I don’t think I want my parents in a home.
-There are mice that don’t want to dress Cinderella
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Hmmm. And my mom got kicked out of her nursing home because they were tired of having to do things like "Help her take her medication" and "call 9-1-1 when they kept finding her unresponsive". Really unfair of me to expect them to do things like that, I guess.
Isn't that literally their fucking jobs!?
@@mandalamaker3876 As a nursing student from Canada: Yes, that absolutely should be their job what the fuck is going on down there
I cared for my grandmother for 12 years before she died, unpaid of course like most family care givers.
I was 19 when I started, had 4 kids during that time and lived without running water for most of it (Alaska). She was poor, but not poor enough for Medicaid, so she didn’t qualify for any kind of help.
It was quite an eye opener to the world of medical shit and I learned a lot, not all of it was good.
We really need a change in this country and I’m happy someone pointed it out. Thank you
As someone who has family members who work in nursing homes and assisted living facilities since I've been alive, I appreciate this subject being covered. The things I hear about these places are brutal.
Two of my grandparents were essentially on Hospice in one way or another and died at home in relative comfort, though were both suffering. My grandfather on the other side was put in an assisted living home when he got major Dementia, his care seemed okay but the staff was incompetent about something major: my mother looked at his charts and found that his nutrient levels were severely deficient, she cracked down on them and he regained his faculties for several months.
His wife (the linchpin of our entire clan, the perfect grandma) was still physically active and sharp as a tack and- I do not say this morbidly or sarcastically- it is fortunate that she died instantly in a car crash (she was totally competent to drive but lived on a blind hill, I feel bad for the teenager that hit her at about 60mph). Better to go in an instant than to feel your mind and body slipping into oblivion over months or years, quality of life over quantity of life always.
The CNA are overworked and understaffed and under paid. It's abusive to the staff and patients. Give your family members a hug (when we can again) and appreciate the work they do.
"-Put your phone down when im talking to you"
Me watching on my phone: *visable confusion*
So slick
Thought the same thing lol
I had a mental breakdown when that happened
I was munching away.
Put it down and looked at him.
So sad that this is the fate for many of our loved ones and potentially ourselves someday. Something needs to be done...
And not even potentially, I'd wager it's pretty much guaranteed to happen for all/most of us. Unless you can find a place you can afford where the staff is objectively qualified and prioritized, and the top management isn't just skimming off the top. Most probably can't find such a place, so I guess suicide is an alternative. F%cking sucks.
This topic is so important. Thank you for bringing it to the spotlight. I am an RN of 28 years. Prior to that, I was a nursing assistant for several years. I have worked in long term care, memory care, a mental health facility, home based care, urgent care/ER, and currently in home telehealth. The pay that CNAs receive in comparison to their responsibilities is atrocious. If they were paid their worth, there would not be such a shortage. However, that being said, the patient to staff ratio is sadly disproportionate using state guidelines. The patient/staff ratio should not be held at a consistent number when including patient acuity. I am not sure why employees that are responsible for our most vulnerable population are not paid accordingly. Being an RN, I know that I could not have done my job without the amazing work of the CNAs that I worked with. They are the front line workers. The ones that report any change of the patient (no matter how big or little) to the nurse. Working in long term care, we are on our feet and running every hour that we are there. Many days getting a few minutes to scarf down something to eat. Even then, something may happen that will shorten that few minute break. Caring for one patient, while call lights are going off, other patients needing assistance, falls risk patients chair alarm going off... you name it. And for many of the patients, we are their family. Sadly, there are patients that don't have family or visitors. They need us to spend time with them. It is impossible to give each and every patient the time that they so much deserve. People do want to stay in their own homes. They tend to do much better in their own, familiar surroundings. Unless you spend down your life savings so that you can receive Medicaid benefits to pay for homecare, or you are wealthy enough to privately pay for homecare, you will fall through the cracks. Medicare and insurance companies do not pay for homecare long term. I too am nervous about getting old and needing care. I just hope my kids will let me move in.
I am an unpaid family caregiver... it is incredibly difficult, stressful and it has left me suicidal. Change needs to happen
I am too. The most support I have is an email newsletter from my local Alzheimer's Association. We need help.
I get it. Hold on. Nothing is forever. Don't condemn your self for wanting it to be over. Give it your best, though your charge may or may not appreciate it, I think some Great Loving Presence does.
@@alexandradionisi7256 : I agree 100%. I raised money and even was an unpaid lobbyist for my local Alz Association chapter, but I actually never got a lick of help with my own spouse with the disease. If you’re not dirt poor, there’s no help available. And it will bankrupt you, even with decent income, once you have to place the person somewhere or get around-the-clock in-home care. The idea that a family member (usually a woman) can continue to take care of someone all alone or with minimal help, while working at least one job to pay bills, is insane, and we often end up terribly sick ourselves. My husband’s care, medications, and toiletries currently cost over $5,000/month, and that’s actually cheap. Friends and family start to disappear, respite caregivers steal, group and nursing homes (if you can afford them) are usually terrible. It’s a no-win situation.
Same here. My advice is to find some way to give yourself a short vacation and recharge. Any way that doesn’t result in their neglect. Just keep thinking and reaching out until you find a way to do it. That is all that has kept me sane and able to keep going. Caregiver burnout is very real and is not your fault at all. And just know that this random Internet stranger is very proud of you. You’re doing a great thing.
Solidarity. I'm there too.
I'm petrified of getting old because of this. I already have depression, can you imagine being neglected, vulnerable, and relying on a bunch of strangers who are there for a paycheck that they are not happy with?
I moved to Europe and will probably never come back because of everything wrong with the US.
100%, hopefully I die before I get too old to take care of myself.
Get long term care insurance and make sure you have someone who you trust as your POA. Most importantly. Make sure you have some checking up on you constantly
To be fair, the people who are directly care givers do care. Otherwise a lot of them would do this very hard job for such little money. Of course there some bad people too, but it's not there fault when there so understaffed and not properly trained. Many of them getting diseases like burn out from this jobs.
I know a story about one person, who jelled at someone with dementia, because there were eating to slow. Because they just didn't have enough time to give him the time he needed to eat and the nurse wasn't even aware how horrible this is for the the patient.
@@orarias313 my friends dad elected a POA that he thought he trusted and when he got Alzheimers they bailed to do anything for him. Hording his hard earned money for their inheritance vs for his care.
When we moved my grandmother into an assisted living facility, she was able to leave unsupervised within the first week by telling the staff her husband was picking her up. However, my grandfather had been dead for years, my grandmother had dementia, and she got as far as the gas station down the road when the GAS STATION EMPLOYEES thought to call the assisted living facility.
That mother and daughter are doing the best they can xx
The worst thing nursing home administrators do is purposely understaff EXCEPT when the inspectors come to check staff levels, which they always seem to know is coming, so THEN they have literally every single worker working. For that single time period. Then right back to understaffing. And somehow this counts as “complying with regulations.”
Wait, the inspectors don't check the schedules and talk to workers?
As a CNA I can confirm in my case that this is literally true. Administrators know full well that you don't have much of a choice but to take on extra labor because we are dealing with actual living people that themselves don't have much of a choice either. If you complain you get hit with "You're a nurse you signed up for this and you should want to do this because its your duty" its abusive nonsense
@@rolfs2165 they only see who’s scheduled that day at my work. Nobody really keeps track of who worked in my department except for my supervisor unless they are physically in the building. Even then the directors of the home are encouraging understaffing as a way to cut down on the budget. My supervisor is trying to schedule more people but her job is threatened when she tries
@@Foreverskull0 my dude, CNA jobs are a dime a dozen. There are quiet a few decent places. You need a new job
That's why you don't tell facilities when you're coming for an inspection.
"Put the phone down and look at me."
Me watching on my Phone: *head implodes*
Same
Just set it down so you can still see the screen
I did that too... only to have John tell me he wants to fuck a dinner plane.
hate8930 To be fair that is one sexy plate.
@@dylanhaugen3739 it terms of facial expression, yea, but bestiality isn't my kink
Thank goodness I looked after my 97yr old nan at home till the end. 20 yrs of my life... but vastly more important 20 years of nanny's dignity! I'd never of allowed her to go through this horror. All because I was in an incredibly lucky position where i could.
My absolute sympathy and understanding to those who can't look after loved ones. Especially when they want too but can't afford I'm just grateful alligators don't exist in England.
My father God rest his soul. Lasted 4 days in one, I felt like I was in the pound. I wanted to take them with me when we took my father home.
“Where do you see yourself in five years?”
“Watching Last Week Tonight to take my mind off of the spider invasion while huddled under my bedsheets with my favorite wolf plate.”
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Geez that’s exactly what I was gonna write!
My unhealthy addiction hahah
He's an American man now!
That’s what we’re all here for
Is there any other type of British man?
Nope never letting my.parents go. .my grandmother had to, and we went every single day.
I still work at my dads and i will never leave him. My mom isnt far and I will also see her daily.
Families need live close. ❤
I work as a cp, five 12 hour shifts at an assisted living facility caring for 29 residents making not much above minimum wage. Some days the relief doesn't show up and a 12 hour day stretches into 18 hours or whenever the director shows up.
My grandmother is 96 years old w/advanced dementia. My mother and aunt have been taking care of her for 20 years. It's reaching the point where she probably needs LTC but we can't afford it. This video just confirms my worst fears.
I’m a nurse at a long term care facility. Until these companies start caring about people instead of the bottom line, the patient will suffer.
pretty sure the heat death of the universe will happen before that
It's just possible that for-profit healthcare is a bad idea.
There is no such thing as a company that cares about anything other than the bottom line, bc if they do then they'll see their profits decrease, shareholders jumpsuit and the business goes under. That's the system we live in. Capitalism is a system that requires infinite profit growth on a very finite planet. Having no empathy, cutting every corner, and screwing people over as much as you can get by with become required to stay afloat, less your business be replaced by a company that is willing to do whatever it takes to increase profits.
And luckily for the ones who choose to be awful and succeed, they can afford to live their lives far away from the destruction and pain they cause.
As an employee working in a long-term care facility I can attest to the absolute fact that calls for help nearly ALWAYS either are delayed or ignored. That said, those who're ignored are most often those who've, "Cried Wolf" many, many times prior - which is to say that they're calling (or screaming) or using their Call Bells for reasons like, they want a channel on their TV changed and they don't remember how to work their remote control - in other words an absolute non-emergency. We have one lady who'll just do it out of spite for every single employee she can. There are exceptions of course but at least in the facility where I work, the residents who're typically ignored have simply, (again), "Cried Wolf" far too many times and are no longer believed.
We had one man who literally said nothing else except for, "Help Me" which he would say hundreds of times each day. At first, his calls for help would be answered - and he'd tell a Nurse or Personal Service Worker that he wanted to go home...that's when he started to become ignored. There are other people who need to use the bathroom or something more serious than his desire to leave the facility.
I guarantee you that if a patient calls for help superficially too many times, their calls will absolutely be ignored.
Whereas the opposite is also true; if a patient or resident rarely calls a nurse or PSW for help, the employees there will no doubt recognize that it's a serious issue and their calls will be addressed as quickly as possible. That's just how it is. We're under-staffed and ignoring superficial (or presumed superficial) calls for help is something that new employees quickly learn is the ONLY way to get through a workday.
"Put your phone down and look at me when I'm talking to you" I wasn't even holding my phone and I still feel like he could see me in that moment and was addressing me personally
“Put down that phone...”
**puts down phone**
“...and look at me!”
**looks at phone down on the floor confused**
@Zack Smith I strongly identify with both these comments
...decided my coffee pot makes a good phone stand. Needs solution for coffee getting cold...🤔..🤧..😷
Lol i was laughing when he aaid put the thumb down because i was definitely typing.
In Germany there recently was a survey that came to the conclusion that nearly a third of all workers in the nursing industry plan on quitting their job for ever after the pandemic is over. We have the same problems here btw: ridiculously bad wages, insane amount of hours, and absolutely no societal recognition
The CDU's neoliberalism is almost as toxic as Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom.
Sadly, many people end up in one for precisely that reason. Nobody in the family cared.
Same here in The Netherlands. Hard work for a pitiful wage.
Your talking exclusively from your perspective as a employee (which gives me a hint to your level of compassion), but what about the elderly beneficiaries? At least you have workers from eastern-Europe who do the job and care for your parents and grandparents! But who takes care of their old parents and grandparents? And what is the salary and working hours for those fiew care-givers that do work in these eastern-Europe countries!
It's a huge problem of society in general, that will only get worse! And the whole approach might have to be changed...
@@purpleldv966 so, I'm talking from my perspective as a former Medicare insurance customer service rep as well as a person who has had many relatives in these facilities. What OP is saying has nothing to do with any compassion levels. Working at these places is HELL - and that's just what it was like *before* the pandemic. Low pay, guelling hours, violent and pervy residents. Middle and upper management is often kind of skeevy. Now the pandemic has cranked that up to 11. Patients are dying. Employees are dying. And there isn't enough room to properly quarenteen people. And the nurses that take care of these COVID patients can't see their family for fear of infecting them. This is extra bad since many of them have to take care of aging parents or small children.
If you want people to do a job - no matter what the job is - you shoukd make sure their basic needs are met.
When I get old "I'm going to switch my on/off switch to off"
I worked in an ALF for a couple years, and when they cut out memory care staff from mandatory two on shift to one person taking care of 15-20 people by themselves, I quit. Couldn't keep hurting myself and risking hurting a resident.