The Assyrian Composite Bow by Grozer - Review
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- And yet another one of my all-time favourite bows!
The Assyrian biocomposite by Csaba Grozer
This is bow everyone should at least shoot once and then for own :)
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I’ve owned this bow now for over a year and shot over 8000+ arrows with it. It still performs like new, maybe even better. I shoot in all weathers, cold, sun, snow, light rain and it’s fine. I saw a video from Grozer suggesting to unstring very slowly which I’m in the habit of doing now. Amazing bow and one of the best I own for sure.
Same for me! An awesome bow, and I love the Xylophone sound it makes. Only drawback: holding arrows in the bow hand does not really work with this handle shape, particularly on horseback. Other bows perform better in this respect.
So here's my question. Could you kill a deer with it? I've been checking out these Grozers but I don't want one if I can't hunt big game with it. What do you think?
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Hello Armin,
Thanks a lot for your rewiews and all your good advices, I learn a lot from you,
I have a Assyrian biocomposite since already a year, I shoot almost every day and it's always a pleasure !!
That's true that czaba Grozer send only a bow a string a sleeve and the garantee card, but.. but .. but..
last week I send him a message to order a new string, his assistant Eva answers the same day, that they send me the string next week for free !
perhaps it's deserve one more point for the customer relationship !! regards from France
Okay, convinced. The Assyrian bow is added to my wishlist 😁
Thank you for the review! ☺️🙏
Had this bow for a year now, and I love it more. Just bought the persian biocomposite which is nice,and still prefer the asyrian. I bought a yamaha acoustic guitar quite a few years ago,the model became so very popular, because rarely you will find a gem produced that defies all odds. The Asyrian Biocomposite Bow by Grozer is one of them,a gem,pure genious.
I Would be depressed if the frequency of your reviews deceased 🙂 great to see this bows capabilities . Loved it thank you Master
Thanks for another exellent review.
Just a short comment on two things.
Every string from Czaba Grozer has a dark section near one of the loops. That is the top loop.
Then you can even tell if you have the bow the right side up without having to look for the writing
Second. The 4 digit number on the belly is the year and month of build, so if you buy a secondhand bow, you will know how old it is. I guess also for guarantee purposes.
I have one of these in 67#@28 and it is 83#@33 I have a drawlength of 32, and it is just amazing to shoot even from horseback.
Anyway, love your work, so keep it up please :)
The timing for this review was perfect. A good friend recently purchased a collection of bows, including this one with a little more poundage. I sent him the link to the video, so he has all the information for it.
I shot the bow last weekend and it's indeed incredible. But I like my beautiful Grozer Turkish more 😜
As always, nice review, my friend. Can't wait for the Patreon bows😊
Another beautiful bow by Grozer. Absolutely graceful curves as you said before almost female like curves. But the power and speed of these bows is quite aggressive would love one of these next! Thanks again for sharing your personal bows with us great review as usual. Thank you Armin!
These Grozer bows are a pleasure to behold. Nice review!
I thought that bow looked familiar. The handle whiping is quite distinct.
So, these Grozer bio composite bows have all the benefits of a horn bow, minus the limb deformation?
If that's the case, I know which bow I'm buying once my Kheshig breaks 😁
Yes, I'm in love again 😁
That's the problem of see so nice bows. lockdown just working parcial almost no job, they still don't pay me🙈
and you see the reviews and it gives you a wish you could have a new bow🏹🤪🙈😁🤩 is craziness 🙈
@@miguelveratraditionalarche9374 I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you get paid more, my friend. You deserve it.
Since the Kheshig, I have not yet seen a bow I fell this way about. Durable, as fiberglass, but smooth as a laminated bow.
how often do your bows break?
@@elvispresley7529 I haven't broke one yet. But I only have a fiberglass Grozer and the Kheshig. Nothing lasts forever.
@@gizmonomono i feel the same way about my Kheshig. She's my most prized possession. This bow right here though is beautiful and is at the top of my shopping list.
Just ordered a Grozer Bow after seeing so many Reviews from you lately. I can't wait to shoot it
I’d love to hear your thoughts on it. I assume you’re received it by now.
@@douglasburt1622 Yes i did, Shot Like 1000 shots by now and i absolutely love it. Every good release is a good shot and every draw feels really good
By far my favorite bow design as it efficiently utilizes all the bending power throughout the bow.
Fantabulous Bow , value for money..as always awesome by Csaba Grozer.. a masterpiece by a Master Bowmaker.. 👍.. Armin always being a generously good guide for Bow searchers... 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Also one of my favourites ! VERY impressive ! SOOO easy to shoot. Once I've shoot 803 grains wood arrows, spin 80# a friend of mine shoots with his 75# longbow. Not perfect since my Assyrian weight is only 48# at my draw (28 1/4) but he shoots it fine ! This bow is really a beast.
Thanks for mentioning the string, I also have a problem with the nock of my arrows fitting the string.
Other than being a totally awesome bow, this one is even better because you don’t need to give it away. Enjoy, you deserve it!
This is going to be my end of year bonus bow and I am having the hardest time keeping myself from ordering one until then.
Did you get it, im thinking strongly about it
@@kevinmaughan4290 I did get it and it has quickly become my favorite bow.
Thats good, great to hear, whats next on the list?
Well, I'm now up to 8 bows, so I'll have to stop for awhile.
Gorgeous bow. Shape. Texture. Color. So very traditional. So ancient-looking. I just received my Ming Moon 6, which is so nearly perfect. I am reveling in it. And my Living Arrow bow isn't exactly old yet. It, too, is wonderful. So I'll wait before I get another. But one of these days.....! Armin, thanks for reviewing this bow again. You had a different take on it this time, and that is valuable for us out here who are learning online and buying without trying. In my search for the perfect bow, I have purchased six solely because of your recommendations. Indeed, I wouldn't have even known they existed. Cheers, Armin
I can see you shooting this bow from a chariot, love this bow you can hear the arrows smack the target
It looks like a masterpiece straight out of history!🤩😍🏹
Sadly this bow has nothing to do with the real assyrian bow desing. Looking at the stone carvings their bow looks nothing like these modern supposedly assyrian bows
@@jkre True. This bow looks more like a bad-made ottoman bow, not like the bows Assyrians used.
Its a real irony that the only bow on the market which is closer to the original assyrian bows is made by AFArchery...
@@garnix5612 and actually eaven their kadash bow looks more assyrian than their assyrian babylon bow 😂
@@jkre True :D
I do own both the grozer and the Bogar Assyrians, personally the Bogar gets my vote and you can almost buy 2 Bogars for one Grozer. But Grozer makes a beautiful bow preforming bow.
That is art! Thanks for reviewing!
Hi Armin Another Extreme Exotic Bow. I loved. This is my Channel for traditional Archery entertainment and information. By the way what nice accuracy you shoot as always. Nice day. Hey Wow you ha now 50,500 subs.And you will keep going up.
You'll get there too, Miguel. You're an amazing archer 😉
@@gizmonomono thanks
And you are too🏹😃👍
Question about the 60 degree string angle: You mentioned in a video that you look for the 60 degree angle for max efficiency at max draw length. I wonder if having the 60 degree angle at a lower draw length than max would make for a more forgiving shooting experience? Instead of a high-stress launch at max power/efficiency, could the arrow release have a soft build to max power, a little like a compound bow. If that's the case, could that allow a greater range of arrow weights and spines, especially shooting with khatra or torque techniques? Very curious what you think. Oh, and that Assyrian bow is AMAZING! Love that style bow, very similar to certain Native American bows from the West Coast....
I think this is the best version of this style of bow. And you have convince me. Thank you. You deserve a coffee!
I have the same bow and it's my favourite horsebow!
No wonder you have to keep it away from your dog, it looks yummy!
That’s a straight forward bow, but yet a very nice and sleek looking bow. Also the bone and sinew are beautiful together. 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸
WOW! Absolutely gorgeous craftsmanship!
Amazing Armin, I have the same bow same poundage. It is a well crafted bow and one of my favorite shooters. Very smooth.
I believe the simulated horn is some type of resinous material. Grozer also builds bikes with it. It looks and works well without the
shortcomings of real horn.
Beautiful sound when shooting.
I really really like the sound this bow makes. Yet another great video, teasing me with stuff I can't afford...yet.
That Assyrians composite bow it's magnificent🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹
A bit rough looking but seems to be a good performer
You own one??
Your very lucky to get the chance to shoot all these great bows I'm jealous. Another great review.👏🇮🇪
Hi Armin, once again a great review! But you mentioned something very interesting. Grózer Korean Biocomposite. Actually very rare bow. I only saw some pictures from that bow on a website. From that point I was very curios about the Grózer Korean bow and how it performs. It would be a pleasure to see a review of this bow especially from you!
Viele Grüße aus Deutschland 🙋🏻♂️
Yeah 😎Got one of those, so nice to shoot. Glad to see you redoing a video on this one !
Quick question Armin, I just checked on mine, and the brace height is only 7,5 inch, what does it changes in term of draw/shooting experience to increase it to 8 inch ? I never noticed anything wrong with the bow, but i may have missed something.
You speak like a german villain like Christooph waltz. The inflections and everything. It's pretty good to see haha.
Been wanting this since your last review of it! Such a beautiful bow.
Oh no, now I am stuck with which bow to get. each one better than the last. but saing that this one has a longer draw and as I have long arms mabe this one then or mabe I wait a week or two to see the next amazing bows. lol
News update, I bought the bow. You convinced me. Looking at all the other options, this seems to be the one. Thank you and will let you know how I get on with it. 🙏😊
That’s a real beauty, A decent price too
Seriously considering this bow 😅
If I shot more, I probably would actually get it but I'm sad of the price raise :(
€380 and I would def order it.
I wonder how they compare to "old" glue composites in damp weather.
Is this construction pretty all weather? (for bow standards)
You bet tho that if I get this bow, it's gonna be shooting bronze arrows, (tried a bit of casting and have been thinking about simply casting alu-bronze field and bullet arrowheads, not just historical ones)
Nice review!
One of my favorite traditional bows style!👍👌🤓
Another informative review Armin, amazing work and another great bow by grozer 😁😁😁🤘🤘🤘
I want a Grozer Bio Composite Bow!
4:47-5:11....I was coming up with all sorts of "Double entendres"! 7 and 3/4 In, "A little short"????..."Flex is QUITE STIFF, in mind its only 42lbs!!!"..."Weights a little, eh, not so much." I dont JUDGE preferences my friend hold!!!! I HAD TO GO THERE! Its Morning. Didnt you see that "BONE in Laid" ? Opinion.....Please? Raptor by Simon or this from Grozer? I was lucky enough to get a Nice Whitetail Doe, Oct.25 2020. The Raptor I got is on the "light side"...didnt know what I would be getting into, so opted for a "less demanding" Bow. Seemed it would be better to learn, on a bow you can Draw/Shoot and study Katra? I didnt let me down, just wondering if Upgrade to Grozer or Nah? I am loving this Old School Archery!!! Keep your head up, Armin! Simon was my FIRST...heck you are the guy, that introduced us!!! I still love you, though! P.S...she sure is Beautiful..oh and HOW Dare you getting me Addicted to Bow Porn 🤣😘
Love the Assyrian shape and also love grozer and love your video so thanks for what you do and keep going 😂👍
That's how a bow should look and I love the way those limbs work.
WOW! That is a beautiful bow!
that is beautiful i think that looks like a work of art
This is THE bow to have …from Mr Grozer….:)
How about the living arrow long draw in comparsion.
I wish i would have one here. But they are limited now to 32"
Was the design of this Bow used by the Neo-Assyrian Empire? Im Assyrian and looking to purchase this bow and learn on it. Thank you.
What a nice sound!
Yass! Wooohooo :) Bravo for once more reviewing that beauty, thank you. Now...the question is...which one should be my next companion😂Turkish or Assyrian ....oooh sweet torture it iss
Beautiful bow. I started in Trad archery , but I am currently getting out of it and selling my two prized Fred Bear Recurves for a target compound. I will miss shooting recurves. It is nice to watch Armin showing off those beautiful Turkish and Assyrian bows . Those are my personal favorites
Why?
I really want to know how they make these bows, like what's the process?
UA-cam man he has some shorter videos on it
Hi Mr. Armin, I believe you have studied a lot of bow designs , can you enlighten me what are the differences between the Assyrian design and Turkish design bow, please? I would appreciate a comparison video on these two different name bow designs. Thanks in advance and thanks for this bow review, nice sinew protection wrapping and I especially like the handle crisscross ;-)
Beautiful lines.
Armin I appreciate you a lot I would like to visit you place some time in the future and take a few shots with you big respect
Thank you
same string problem here
too long and also center serving is verry thin
i follow up when i have the right BCY center serving ...
18 strains 2.5 loops 50.75 inch D97 BCY with 0.018 Center serving
Less than 2 sec of Vibration
Awesome video ... keep up the great work
I'm watching your videos with interest, master. I use a Turkish bow. I've been looking for a fast Turkish bow for a long time. Could you please tell us the brands that produce the fastest Turkish bows you know?
it was the golden era (age)👌
Ideal bow to me
Nice looking bow. How many bows do you own?
You should warm up the limbs sufficiently so we can see consistent speed readings. Shoot it a bunch then measure at the very end.
Dream bow
Ok.. this bow is very very pretty
Another good one.
Idk.. I'm liking the sound of this bow... The look.. I bet it's expensive though
Ok.. now that's a pretty bow
Nice bow and good review
60° string angle.. awesome bow! very nice video and go for the 10 points review Armin,. and because this is a way of communication........ Armin is not time to explain the physics behind the 60°? I understand that the energy the bow stores hast to be efficient to exercise the force along a vector flowing the string oriented opposite to the nocked arrow, in this manner pulling the string so pushing the arrow on a path that is the vector sum from of both limbs.... stills follow...? vectors.. triangles... school physics. I say all this and try to explain a thought... I think the shape of the bow can change so much how this forces act at different stages of the be bow going to its relaxed position. I thin would be very interesting to hear what you can say about the 60°. and if I went already out of the way... all revisiting bows... bow you mentioned in videos that needed to be shot more often...? sharing a tip some one might like. I adjust my nocks by adjustIcommunity and it is where I learn most of my archery... Thank you. (in plural)
too much to prepare to explain it properly... will do a video one day. if you dont care about the string angel, simply ignore :D
@@ArminHirmer Oh I do care about it... don't get me wrong. I do believe it will make sense... maybe something like a golden measure in archery.
@@EnriqueLUrcia yeah it is interesting. As I once mentioned, a bowobuilder told me that and I never forgot, then I googled and did not find a lot. So I started researching, got a ton of physics papers now... but that would be too much. So I will try and break it down for a video
@@ArminHirmer Thnks a lot for the time and attention Armin. Will be great if you manage to make a video about it.
Still love these bows, but a composite or biocomposite bow in France where the weather and climate tend to be wet and cold+ warm between summer and winter. Wouldn't take that risk, otherwise, this bow is a beauty
These bows are made with modern epoxy, these are not any more sensitive to moisture than any other modern glass laminate, cus thats what this bow is, it is just dressed as horn bow, but it does have glass back and belly and same laminated core as any other modern glasslaminate bow. I own grozer assyrian biocomposite
Its the fish (or hide, what ever is used) glue that makes composite bows sensitive to moisture, but cus this bow doesn't have neither of those, it is not moisture sensitive.
I use this bow all the time in snow, cold, wet etc and it’s fine. There are limits to anything but this is robust.
If I understood his process correctly, the biocomposite bows use actual wood, horn, and sinew. The horn and sinew are both prepared over time by some secret method which results in maleable plates of each material. The only modern material in the biocomposite bows is the glue; in the true composite bow he makes, he uses "fish glue". Grozer has a video on UA-cam explaining it.
I have had one for over a year,I live in Wales on a mountain that has the wettest, most damp conditions you will find,the bow is still perfect.!
Nice one! Thanks!
To me Its more like a hybrid of westrwn angular/legolas bow😂❤
What color is this one?
Hi Armin, ive always liked this bow! (I've made one for my daughter from pvc and it performs amazing. I'm tempted to try making one for hunting, see how it does with high #.)
Anyways, i was wanting to know your thoughts: i have a #60 bear montana longbow and wanted to compare it with assyrian #55-60. Would you recommend assyrian for cold climate/frost/rain or fiberglass laminate? Draw length is 29"
How do you go about ordering this bow from Grozer
You can the website linked in the video description
Which one is a better shooter, the Assyrian or the Hungarian Short (both in Biocomposite). Thanks
Which Assyrian will be better, Grozer or Bogar? I need 31”-32” draw and around 55# at 28”.
EDIT:
I think I know after seeing this review. Grozer is just perfect and I love the Assyrian shape, I need one.
Agree
For €385 I would order it immediately
Beautiful bow.... I hate that stringing method
What is the difference between the new and old one any material changes or performance change? Which one is preferred for wheather resistance or low maintenance
Hello Armin and community, I hope everyone is well.
I have just purchased a 56# Assyrian bow from Grozer and I intend on making my own carbon arrows.
Question
Does anyone have any recommendations for arrow length, spine, feather length, GPI/GPP, field tip and insert grain weight?
This is my first Grozer and I really want to make as perfect a set as arrows as possible.
Cheers!
A real beauty.
What arrows do you use? Wooden, aluminium or carbon ?
Mostly carbon
@@ArminHirmer If I may ask 1 more question. What is shaft diameter of those carbon arrows ?
@@GameOver-fn2og the usual 6.5 mm or 6.2? standard
Hi.
Do you think if this bow can shoot heavier arrows used for manchu bow of same poundage (45grams) ? Or if something may happen with bow or string.
hello i by this bow i want to know if i can use tapered arrows thank for your job is very intresting
Sure you can
@@ArminHirmer tank for your answer and big thank for your vidéo
ghah! you got me. Just ordered one! (it was in stock so it won't cause delay for you! heh)
Already shipped! looking forward.
Arrived. already my most beautiful bow right out of the box. and it makes the exact 'snap' sound upon shooting! I have only had it 5 minutes~
What arrows should i get for this bow? It came this week, and my local shops got nuthin, if anyone has a link to some affordable arrows that are stylistically congruent with the bow, lay em on me
What poundage ?
Nice bow
You make it so hard to choose another bow to add to the collection 😭😭😭
Great vedio sir .. 🔥🔥🔥 can you make brief vedio about archers peradox
will see what I can do
@@ArminHirmer okk ...thnxx
Got a 70lb recurve from
Hey, what kind of thumbsaver do you use?
I alread have a thumb ring, but unfortunately to small.
Recently one from archers tidbits, did a video a few days ago
Ok, but how do you order from Grozer? I tried on the website linked from his website but it's just all out of stock... Do you just send him an email? Any discount for Armin's followers ;-) ? I really want a biocomposite hunnish...
I messaged him on Facebook and we finished with email. No voucher code sorry. email: bowman@t-online.hu
@@ArminHirmer Thank you so much! I can't wait to try one of these beauties!
Grozer's name is pronounced with "z" not "zsh" :)
Now 445 Euros, they have changed the price.
still a great value for what you get
With all the time you spend with bows and you don't own a quiver yet? Looks like it's time for quiver reviews.