The Magnificent Patterns of Prime Signatures

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @ComboClass
    @ComboClass  Рік тому +16

    Thanks for watching! Consider checking out the Combo Class Patreon page I started this month: www.patreon.com/comboclass

    • @good.citizen
      @good.citizen Рік тому

      one thing I got from the class is counting by primes to infinity seems faster than whole numbers if that holds a bucket of water
      .

  • @liminal3110
    @liminal3110 Рік тому +52

    Great video! I'm looking forward on the base 2i numbers still, please don't forget about them!

  • @qwerty11111122
    @qwerty11111122 Рік тому +6

    1:36 the reflection of the back of the whiteboard on the clock feeds suspense! Awesome camera-work!

  • @waddupbro
    @waddupbro Рік тому +16

    It's always a good day when there is a new combo class video

  • @Qreator06
    @Qreator06 Рік тому +7

    We need more of that water hose in Comboclass

  • @idontwantahandlethough
    @idontwantahandlethough Рік тому +21

    I frickin love your enthusiasm bro, you are a great teacher!
    I really hope you aren't too hard on yourself and are able to see the quality of the work you're putting out (I know I do that sometimes anyway lol). This is some really good stuff man!
    And judging by the comments, I'm not the only one that thinks so :) Keep it up

    • @Fire_Axus
      @Fire_Axus 9 місяців тому

      your feelings are irrational

  • @servvo
    @servvo Рік тому +1

    you know it's a good video when it starts with a clarification for what "number" means

  • @EPMTUNES
    @EPMTUNES Рік тому +1

    I always appreciate your number theory videos. It’s such a fundamental part of math, present and past, yet we learn nothing of it in school. As such I still find there is so much to learn about it.

  • @darreljones8645
    @darreljones8645 Рік тому +2

    My favorite prime signature is {4,4,4,1,1,1}. Numbers of this form have exactly one thousand factors. The smallest number with this signature is exactly 810,810,000.

  • @chester_m
    @chester_m Рік тому +4

    The OEIS is packed with sequences related to this. Some of them are:
    0:46 number of partitions: sequence A000041.
    3:22 number of divisors: sequence A000005.
    4:12 number of factorizations (like how many divisors can a number with 4 prime factors have): sequence A001055.
    4:44 prime signatures: sequence A124832
    6:12 smallest number having its prime signature (1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 24, 30, 32): sequence A025487
    6:45 primes: sequence A000040
    7:12 numbers with two prime factors (aka semiprimes or 2-almost primes): sequence A007774
    7:27 squares of primes: sequence A001248
    7:36 signature {1,1} (squarefree semiprimes, product of two distinct primes): sequence A006881
    9:28 signature {3}, cubes of primes: sequence A030078
    10:20 signature {1,1,1}, sphenic number, squarefree 3-almost primes: sequence A007304
    10:49 squarefree numbers: A005117
    15:10 4-almost primes (numbers in signature add up to 4): sequence A014613
    15:16 numbers with 8 divisors: sequence A030626
    17:33 5-almost primes: sequence A014614
    18:13 numbers with 12 divisors (a dozen divisors): sequence A030630

    • @ComboClass
      @ComboClass  Рік тому +3

      Yeah i love the OEIS and found a good table of those sequences on there! That was where I was able to find the most info on prime signatures compared to anywhere else online

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Рік тому +1

      @@ComboClass Will it run out? What happens when it reaches A999999?

    • @xyz.ijk.
      @xyz.ijk. Рік тому +1

      ​@@Anonymous-df8it​ Neil is looking to raise funds for someone to take over after he can no longer run the site. I would think that include the programmer who can alter the numbering of all of the sequences. But he's got quite a ways to go so I wouldn't worry about it just yet

    • @Fire_Axus
      @Fire_Axus 9 місяців тому

      your feelings are irrational

  • @karlwaugh30
    @karlwaugh30 Рік тому +3

    Excellent stuff as always!
    I love how it's elementary stuff, but also kinda deep and beautiful.
    Also in this vein, if you extend to negatives in the prime factorisation you could extend this to the rationals. I'm not sure how usefully but in some sense for sure. It all reminds me a lot of Ring Theory, not that I've done tons of that since degree level.

    • @ComboClass
      @ComboClass  Рік тому +3

      Yeah, I actually have an episode planned (which will come out in not too long) that involves negative exponents in prime factorizations and how that allows you to include rationals! :)

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty Рік тому

      This video contains a decent amount of elementary number theory (if it were taught at an undergrad level, it would contain most of this information, but possibly in a different order). But number theory has a strong connection to ring theory! So it makes sense you feel a connection there!

  • @torydavis10
    @torydavis10 Рік тому +1

    Edit: I am dumb.
    That was excellent! For anyone interested, the deeper reason behind all of this and the reason why the 'add one and multiply' method works is really a matter of convention. As we define the number of prime factors, only distinct primes count. When we count the number of divisors, each identical prime is counted.

    • @ComboClass
      @ComboClass  Рік тому +2

      Thanks, but that doesn't really explain the pattern as to why divisor numbers are an "add one and multiply" version of the prime signature. When you count the number of prime factors, you do include non-distinct primes within the multiplicity. And with the divisors, you count more than just identical primes, you count combinations of them. I didn't really explain the whole pattern (just the example with hypereleven-like ones) in the video, but to figure out why the "add one and multiply" method works, you'd have to look at how different sorts of picking items works in combinatorics, with how many combinations of a set of items you could pick if some of them were duplicates

    • @coopergates9680
      @coopergates9680 Рік тому

      @@ComboClass I suppose one could imagine each prime (or prime power) as a dimension, so each time a new distinct prime pops up, the already existing list of divisors can all be multiplied by the new prime, as many times as it's in the factorization, and still yield distinct divisors.
      For instance, a number like 18, which is 2*3^2, has divisors 1, 2, 1*3, 2*3, 1*9, and 2*9. Each divisor is formed from a product of the prime factors where the exponents range from 0 to the max found in the factorization, and all integer exponents in between are allowed.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Рік тому

      Saying that it "is a convention" is false, and it betrays a misunderstanding of the theory. In number theory, we work with something called the p-adic valuation of a positive integer n. This is defined, for prime integers p, via the formula v[p](n) = max({m in Z : p^m divides n}). The canonical representation of n in terms of prime factorization is this written as Π[p(m)^v[p(m)](n)]. The prime signature S(n) of n is defined by the formula S(n) = {v[p](n) in Z : p divides n}. This is not a matter of convention: it is a conceptual distinction, which meaningfully separates powers of prime numbers from prime numbers, for example, and squarefree 2-almost primes numbers from squares of prime numbers. The Ω function is defined by the formula that Ω(n) = Σ(S(n)).
      The pattern in question has nothing to do with convention. The pattern in question is actually a theorem. The divisor function, d, which counts the positive divisors of n as d(n), is defined by the formula d(n) = |{ν in Z : m > 0 & ν divides n}|. It turns out that for all coprime m, n, d(m•n) = d(m)•d(n). Now, consider the ω function, defined by ω(n) = |{p in Z : p is prime & p divides n}|. Since n = Π[1 -> ω(n); p(i)^v[p(i)](n)], it follows that d(n) = Π[1 -> ω(n); d(p(i)^v[p(i)](n))] = Π[1 -> ω(n); v[p(i)](n) + 1], demonstrating the formula exactly. It turns out that the formula incorporates both the multiplicities, as well as the number of distinct prime factors. Both functions are equally as necessary in number theory. Actually, it is easy to see why: while Ω(n) = Sum(S(n)), ω(n) = |S(n)|. Both are defined in terms of the multiplicities anyway, the p-adic valuations.

    • @torydavis10
      @torydavis10 Рік тому

      @@ComboClass Wow, it was downright rude of me to be so dumb...clearly I wasn't paying attention. Watched it again, I'm hip now. Take the signature {3,4}. The divisors will have signature {a,b} where a is from [0,3] and b is from [0,4], for two independent choices from 4 and 5 options respectively. At least, I think I'm hip?

    • @torydavis10
      @torydavis10 Рік тому

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 You are right, but I think it would have been more accurate to say my blatant misunderstanding belied a misunderstanding. Sadly I am not fully fluent in this notation so your comment is less illuminating to me than it should be. It's not entirely greek but I can't quite parse it all either. Does my reply to combo indicate that I pulled my head out of my ass?

  • @thedirtykitchenpysic
    @thedirtykitchenpysic Рік тому +45

    Next video: negative prime signatures, complex prime signatures, Zeta-function roots of prime signatures

    • @CMDRunematti
      @CMDRunematti Рік тому +4

      Oh... Damn, i hope those are real things cuz they sound super interesting

    • @karlwaugh30
      @karlwaugh30 Рік тому +1

      Negatives being in the prime signatures, at least in theory, would allow you to be classifying not just Natural Numbers but also rationale numbers. But then you could just as easily describe the Rationals by an ordered pair of prime signatures.

    • @Domotro
      @Domotro Рік тому +6

      @@karlwaugh30 Yeah incorporating negative exponents into prime factorizations will be in a future episode :)

    • @JirenSlr
      @JirenSlr Рік тому

      This sound very interesting, do you have resources on this?

    • @thedirtykitchenpysic
      @thedirtykitchenpysic Рік тому

      @@JirenSlr sorry, was just roleplaying a neural network.
      With a faint hope that CC could surprise us more

  • @sobertillnoon
    @sobertillnoon Рік тому +2

    I'm impressed how well that whiteboard does near fire. I expected it to discolor.

  • @peppermann
    @peppermann Рік тому +1

    Brilliant. My wife isn’t a mathematician but she loved it too! She says you have neat handwriting but you need to wash your coat 😂❤

  • @shreyjain3197
    @shreyjain3197 Рік тому +2

    very interesting
    highly underrated channel

  • @TymexComputing
    @TymexComputing Місяць тому

    Kurt Goedel would be proud of you :)
    All good for you all!
    19:19 This episode signature :)

  • @seedmole
    @seedmole Рік тому +1

    This is great, reminds me of a lot of higher level geometry things like making patterns by reusing midpoints as vertices and such. Endless ways to generate new, related data from preexisting things.

  • @nathanvandevyver
    @nathanvandevyver Рік тому +1

    let's make this channel grow

  • @ahobimo732
    @ahobimo732 Рік тому

    The crazy person vibe could not be stronger. Love it.

    • @RandomAmbles
      @RandomAmbles Рік тому

      I assure you, it can. It most certainly can.

    • @ahobimo732
      @ahobimo732 Рік тому

      @@RandomAmbles I should have be more specific:
      The crazy person vibe could not be stronger - while still maintaining a coherent, informative explanation of mathematical concepts.
      Setting aside this minor misunderstanding, I agree with you. Crazy person vibes can ALWAYS get stronger.

  • @GameJam230
    @GameJam230 Рік тому +2

    Wow! I didn't know this was a real thing people of studied. I discovered parts of this myself in Grade 10

  • @WhattheHectogon
    @WhattheHectogon Рік тому

    Never heard of prime signatures...let's go!

  • @monoman4083
    @monoman4083 Рік тому +1

    you're on fire with these videos ...

  • @xjoke6981
    @xjoke6981 Рік тому

    you were pretty chill this video

  • @HipNerd
    @HipNerd Рік тому

    Who knew a video about prime signatures would have such a brutal ending. 🙂

  • @good.citizen
    @good.citizen Рік тому +1

    thank you for the number video

  • @Guil118
    @Guil118 Рік тому +1

    He has the same voice as Kevin from Vsauce2.

  • @braznartn5176
    @braznartn5176 Рік тому

    The mad scientist is burning up... OMGsh...
    I better pay my dues... don't wanna miss out on the fun.

  • @calebclark9114
    @calebclark9114 Рік тому +1

    Spectacular video!

  • @Idekaks
    @Idekaks Рік тому

    Have you considered making a video on the Collatz conjecture?

  • @MayorVideo
    @MayorVideo Рік тому +2

    i saw it and clicked without even reading the title lol

  • @kokulanselvakumaran
    @kokulanselvakumaran Рік тому +1

    Great video!

  • @echoawoo7195
    @echoawoo7195 Рік тому

    I can see the script in the new clock xD

  • @braznartn5176
    @braznartn5176 Рік тому

    Hey folks... another EINSTEIN is among us!!!

  • @evenaxin3628
    @evenaxin3628 Рік тому

    Going with your idea for hyper elevens you can actually do the same for all others, but if there is one that is a power of something it adds that many options but you can only choose one of them at any given time. EX (2^2)*3 where 2^2 is a¹ and a² while 3 is b:
    1:{ }
    2:{a¹}
    3:{a²}
    4:{b}
    5:{a¹, b}
    6:{a², b}

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Рік тому +1

      Prime signature= {2,1}. For the first factor, there are three states: not present, contains one, contains two. For the second, there are two states: not present and contains one. In general, if you add one to each number in the prime signature then multiply the new numbers together, you get the number of factors of a number!

    • @evenaxin3628
      @evenaxin3628 Рік тому

      @@Anonymous-df8it I'm sorry, I can't understand your reply as it's worded.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Рік тому

      @@evenaxin3628 What parts don't you understand?

    • @evenaxin3628
      @evenaxin3628 Рік тому

      @@Anonymous-df8it I was just waking up at the time, that is what he already explained in his video, but he was explaining squarefree prime signatures through lists so I was doing the same for other signatures.

  • @absxn
    @absxn Рік тому +2

    nice

  • @isobarkley
    @isobarkley Рік тому

    bart, say the line! "hyper elevens..."

  • @hkayakh
    @hkayakh Рік тому

    0:29 oh no don’t put the leaves in the fire! They create tons of smoke!

  • @karlwaugh30
    @karlwaugh30 Рік тому +1

    I'd be interested in functions that act on them. Eg. A function F that took a set Signature S to { s +2 : s in S }
    Or G that took S to something like itself twice so { 3, 1, 1} -> { 3, 3, 1, 1, 1, 1 }
    What does these representations of these functions tell us about them? Compared to more traditional representations of the same functions.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Рік тому +1

      That just becomes functions between sets of integers though

    • @karlwaugh30
      @karlwaugh30 Рік тому +1

      @@Anonymous-df8it it does in principle yes. Although I think it's relatively "easy" to convert to N-> N by preserving the primes referenced by the exponents.
      Functions that are extremely easy to define in terms of Signatures (S + 1) have more interesting behaviour when viewed over the natural numbers - all the sphenic family of numbers get squared but other numbers rise by a lower amount - essentially each number is multiplied by it's "sphenic root" (aka just it's prime divisors multiplied together).
      Functions that take signatures to 2s result in simply raising the number to the power of 2
      Functions that square the signatures have a more complicated (almost factorial like) behaviour that motivates the definition of other functions acting on the natural numbers.
      These are merely a few observations I made in an hr or two after watching this video. I think there's some interesting numerical behaviour going on.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Рік тому +1

      @@karlwaugh30 What about the other direction? What would adding one (in positive rational number space) do to a prime signature?

    • @karlwaugh30
      @karlwaugh30 Рік тому +1

      @@Anonymous-df8it well I think that would be really hard to know... Like a full answer would probably be akin to knowing where the primes are going to occur etc...

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Рік тому +1

      @@karlwaugh30 Couldn't the same be said for your suggestion?

  • @balbarard4041
    @balbarard4041 Рік тому

    alien level knowledge 👽

  • @HomieSeal
    @HomieSeal Рік тому +2

    Absolutely loved how everything came together at the end! (Although at the very end it must have been quite cold for you)
    Also, when I saw Squarefree on the board, all I could think about was Stone Free lmao

  • @rogerkearns8094
    @rogerkearns8094 Рік тому

    Interesting.

  • @AruChanWZ
    @AruChanWZ Рік тому

    Nothing have fallen at the beginning))) but all happened at the end. Nice patterns! Did you discovered them?

    • @ComboClass
      @ComboClass  Рік тому +2

      I read about prime signatures myself. I figured out the relationships with the partition function and other combinatorics property myself. I couldn't find a huge amount of easily available information online about prime signatures, they should be more well known!

    • @AruChanWZ
      @AruChanWZ Рік тому

      @@ComboClass Wow! That's impressive! Looking forward to all negative Grades and Grade i =) GL to CC

  • @cabobsstopmotion4983
    @cabobsstopmotion4983 Рік тому

    6:40 me too

  • @Klaevin
    @Klaevin Рік тому

    "back when UA-cam was just a guy with a camera"

  • @toanpham4110
    @toanpham4110 Рік тому

  • @evenaxin3628
    @evenaxin3628 Рік тому +1

    Is there a hyper-eleven super-eleven?

    • @ComboClass
      @ComboClass  Рік тому

      Great question! Yep a good amount of them (at least base ten hyperelevens) have prime signatures like (1,1) or (1,1,1) or etc

    • @evenaxin3628
      @evenaxin3628 Рік тому

      @@ComboClass I didn't know how I was asking, I meant numbers like 11111 that have prime signatures of only the digit 1. (ignoring of course primes.) are there any primes with only the digit 1 besides 11?

  • @KnuxMaster368
    @KnuxMaster368 Рік тому

    Combo class hasn’t covered Combinatorics? 🧐

  • @kabalofthebloodyspoon
    @kabalofthebloodyspoon Рік тому

    Yes, 24, the highest number. Like you got ten. You got ten more and four after that. Forget about it 😉

  • @Illure
    @Illure Рік тому

    Great video!
    Although, I can't help but get distracted by the fire... Man fire looks different in a video than in person. It's more disjointed and less lively... Wait what were you talking about again... Sigh...

  • @iloveyouuu3
    @iloveyouuu3 Рік тому

    i love you

  • @deltalima6703
    @deltalima6703 Рік тому

    😜
    Head spinning

  • @datbubby
    @datbubby Рік тому

    :)

  • @mackwebster7704
    @mackwebster7704 Рік тому

    😭 Promo>SM

  • @Jkauppa
    @Jkauppa Рік тому

    1^inf, has only itself as the prime one (1)

    • @Jkauppa
      @Jkauppa Рік тому

      in the case of one, separated from zero, you need to include/show the one

    • @Jkauppa
      @Jkauppa Рік тому

      if you dont show the one, what number that is

    • @Jkauppa
      @Jkauppa Рік тому

      one must be included in the signature, contradicted/shown by the case of number one (1)

    • @Jkauppa
      @Jkauppa Рік тому

      one must have its own composition signature, it cannot be empty

    • @Jkauppa
      @Jkauppa Рік тому

      be consistent. 1 = 1^inf or just one (1)

  • @ChaverYadim
    @ChaverYadim 7 місяців тому

    are you homeless?