They don't want to do the work. But more importantly they don't want to be found out as incompetent and making outrageous decisions. Criminals in uniform
During COVID they could easily track and trace, public shaming for each person, then suddenly they all develop amnesia and privacy is back on the table when violent criminals are involved. In some contexts this style of government would be called Soviet.
You obviously know nothing about Soviet governance then. The Soviets had total control of their border, screened everyone who crossed and constantly monitored any threat (most foreigners) and could answer any of these questions these useless bureaucrats were asked.
Any senator who asks the questions the public wants asked is dropped down the senate ticket so it is the end their career. Look at Gerard Rennick. They are putting their political careers on the line.
He went M.I.A during ONE NATION'S call to separate the Digital I.D. Bill from a plethora of Bills which the Albanese-Bandt Government wanted pushed through before the Easter Break! Senator Paterson is a Green in LNP clothing.....
OMG they are all so full of shit. It's an absolute disgrace. I watch these clips because we as citizens all have a right to know but wow it's so frustrating to see the state of our government when it comes to admitting their own mistakes, especially when it relates to violent offenders released into the community. Well done Patto, keep on them and hold them accountable. Keep the bastards honest !!
The senator need to look at book of protocols because there are reason that a senator is called Honourable and these clowns are called Civil Servants,I don’t think such people should be allowed to sit infront of an Honourable Senator
It’s frustration that this senator has no idea how the government he is in control of works. How the fuck would border force know if state police, state corrections and state magistrates are cutting off ankle bracelets and attaching them again? This is like asking the postman why there isn’t a stop sign where the give way sign is. There is no clear answers to stupid questions.
This arrogance of this pommie copper is beyond belief . The question Sen Pat needs to ask is ' what is Your concern for the AUSTRALIAN PUBLIC in regards to illegal immigrants who have committed crimes and are now released without charge
Didn't you know criminals have more rights then tax payers paying for them Then migrants has even more rights and protections then the society their living in
OMG...I can no longer listen to this!!! There are serious criminals amongst our communities and these guys have NO clue as to where they are or if they are wearing ankle bracelets!!! OMG!!! We are in serious danger if our own police have NO clue!! 😢
Not at all. That's why I vote for the candidates who actively campaign for matters they feel strongly about. In my opinion, if the only focus is on dragging down the other candidates, then they have nothing to bring to the table but a vote of no confidence, and seeing someone I voted for actively campaigning about important issues, it shows how much they care about Australia and I feel proud.
The Joe Biden govt in America has imported great numbers of 'asylum seekers' who are mainly military age men. They're already causing problems and will be mobilised when needed. Even though Australia doesn't have porous borders to the same extent, this Labor govt knowingly allows detainees with criminal/sexual violence histories to persist in our community.
Dont back down Senator Patterson. You asked the right questions, these people had plenty of notice to get the required information and answer your questions. Just disgusting to see the AFP officers just waffle on when in fact they could get that information in hours.
Who do these people think they are? Contempt of the Senate and remedies for contempt When the actions of a witness or another person influencing a witness have the effect of obstructing the inquiries of a Senate committee (or future inquiries), those actions may be treated as contempts. Examples of such offences include: Refusing without reasonable excuse to answer a question; Giving false or misleading evidence; Failing to attend or to produce documents when required to do so; Intimidation of a witness; Adverse treatment of a witness; Wilfully disturbing a committee while it is meeting.
I admire Mr. Paterson's tenacity in the face of someone who appears to prefer to be less than helpful, especially given that The Australian public has seen stuff-up after stuff-up in this area. His 'not my job' attitude just doesn't wash given the gravity of events.
"I don't have that information" "I'll need to take that on notice" and "I cant remember what date was that?" Seems to me that is usually the answers when Senator Paterson asks a question or requires information. In a previous meeting the Senator had let his constituants know well beforehand what questions he would be raising and he still didn't get any response that would ckear up the matters.
Just imagine taking home 180K from the taxpayer, and the outcome of your work effort is.... "Dunno, Ill have to email someone...." I reckon you could probably staff that role and get a similar outcome at about 25 bucks an hour.
Senator, I ask you this, Ive been watching quite a lot in the Senate. Can you let us know if every commitee that testifies in the Senate is as incompetent as they all appear. In the real world none of them would have a job.
Commissioner Outram is useless!! These public servants don’t believe they are servants nor accountable to the public. They are paid enormous salaries by we the people. How dare they be so arrogant!! Transgressing whose privacy??
Clearly this data is important, and they should find a way of compiling and maintaining records. It seems quite straightforward. I agree with the other minister who wanted an assurance that the questions on notice would be answered. They seem reluctant to do so. Why don’t they care about this information? We have a lot of excellent public servants, and some not so good ones. Those in senior positions are aware that it is part of their job to be attend these sessions, answer questions and be accountable. They get paid enormous salaries, and that’s part of the job. Anyway, thanks again, James for your attention to this issue. These criminals should not be in this country.
Why do we have British people in so many high positions in law enforcement in Aus such as AFP and ABF when there own country has been destroyed by these very issues. It beggars belief. How can they be more qualified than our own Australian people.
Keep up the good work Senator Paterson. As per usual Labor is covering up their mistakes and no one can answer the questions. This Government needs to be outed.
Frign frustrating...just ask the bloody states and territories to report through daily updates of what is going on with these detainees so it can be kept fairly current and info given to Peterson. Its not bloody rocket science. If I was at a board meeting and saying I'll take it on notice and get back to ya, I'd be out of a job.
Those bureaucrats are impossible. They are so evasive, are they hiding something? We need many people like Senator Patterson who are smart enough to scrutinise their nonsense.
Why don't we play this out to its logical conclusion. Just submit questions to the committees in their entirety, they can then ignore them without having to come to questioning. It would save a lot of time....
And over time it gets worse and worse and children are in more and more danger. NO THANKS. Law enforcement were never this dopey and belligerent back when it was safe to be a child in Australia. Enough is enough!
Pause their salary until they answer the questions they are obligated to answer... see how long it takes for the to answer questions then. I bet they would suddenly turn up to hearings with more answers than the committee could dream up questions for.
So it's basicly a crime for us to defeind our selves, and we have to rely on these clowns to protect us, FFS we have email, text messaging, phones calls, and internet access from a mobile device, and these highly paid people take weeks to communicate with other departments, while the criminals can clearly run out-lore organisations form a prison cell. Do you feel safe because you should not be totaly unprepaired, in this day and age.
The Border Force gentleman does not know how to set up a simple computer system to keep track of dangerous people under his purview. What sheer incompetence or cover up.
So let me get this right ... ABF only need to know if someone has visa conditions, and if they are in the community? They don't care how dangerous a person is and any precautions they therefore have to take, ie, a murderer, or accused murderer, I would presume to be more dangerous than a sex offender, and would presume that the officers need to know who they are up against if they need to make contact or detain.
The fact they attempt to try to mansplain and srill makes no sense is hysterical and transparent thats the way they communicate with one another daily lol thats why its completely normal to "them" and complete insanity to us
Shame on those hiding offenses. Do they have Australian interests or others. Or r these cops bribed. Shame less. They cant provide the relevant information.😢😢
We live on a computer world and these people dont have statistics to answer James Patersons questions... it's not hard to provide the information required by the Senator.
so they haven’t got a bloody clue where half these detainees are
Imagine how much they're getting paid to not have a bloody clue
This man does not want to do his job. maybe he should be relieved
OMG...the incompetence is phenomenal!!
Wow, some public servants get really annoyed when they're asked to do some work.
And they get paid more than the senator...
They don't want to do the work. But more importantly they don't want to be found out as incompetent and making outrageous decisions. Criminals in uniform
During COVID they could easily track and trace, public shaming for each person, then suddenly they all develop amnesia and privacy is back on the table when violent criminals are involved. In some contexts this style of government would be called Soviet.
You obviously know nothing about Soviet governance then. The Soviets had total control of their border, screened everyone who crossed and constantly monitored any threat (most foreigners) and could answer any of these questions these useless bureaucrats were asked.
Thank you, Senator Patterson. Excellent questions, we need to have the answers
Your here army you Mr NZ@@Aucklandinsummer
they never answer questions fully
Politicians are professional bullshit artists except the katter party
I am so Impressed with senator James Paterson.
He is doing a great job for us.
But he will go missing
Any senator who asks the questions the public wants asked is dropped down the senate ticket so it is the end their career. Look at Gerard Rennick. They are putting their political careers on the line.
Yes he is, however, the same problems will continue
He went M.I.A during ONE NATION'S call to separate the Digital I.D. Bill from a plethora of Bills which the Albanese-Bandt Government wanted pushed through before the Easter Break!
Senator Paterson is a Green in LNP clothing.....
OMG they are all so full of shit. It's an absolute disgrace. I watch these clips because we as citizens all have a right to know but wow it's so frustrating to see the state of our government when it comes to admitting their own mistakes, especially when it relates to violent offenders released into the community. Well done Patto, keep on them and hold them accountable. Keep the bastards honest !!
The arrogance of these public servants is breathtaking
The senator need to look at book of protocols because there are reason that a senator is called Honourable and these clowns are called Civil Servants,I don’t think such people should be allowed to sit infront of an Honourable Senator
It’s frustration that this senator has no idea how the government he is in control of works. How the fuck would border force know if state police, state corrections and state magistrates are cutting off ankle bracelets and attaching them again?
This is like asking the postman why there isn’t a stop sign where the give way sign is. There is no clear answers to stupid questions.
Arrogance often masks incompetence.
These public servants are paid more than the good senator!
This arrogance of this pommie copper is beyond belief . The question Sen Pat needs to ask is ' what is Your concern for the AUSTRALIAN PUBLIC in regards to illegal immigrants who have committed crimes and are now released without charge
Why do the criminals have the right of not being identified???? What happened to public safety?
Didn't you know criminals have more rights then tax payers paying for them
Then migrants has even more rights and protections then the society their living in
these useless eaters don't give a rat about public safety ...
OMG...I can no longer listen to this!!! There are serious criminals amongst our communities and these guys have NO clue as to where they are or if they are wearing ankle bracelets!!! OMG!!! We are in serious danger if our own police have NO clue!! 😢
They clearly don’t care either
These public servants are hostile to questioning. Their behaviour during covid was soviet style, l know as l was a victim.
Anyone feel safe with these people in charge?????????
😢😢😢😢😢
Not at all. That's why I vote for the candidates who actively campaign for matters they feel strongly about. In my opinion, if the only focus is on dragging down the other candidates, then they have nothing to bring to the table but a vote of no confidence, and seeing someone I voted for actively campaigning about important issues, it shows how much they care about Australia and I feel proud.
No
Not at all , but we don't matter do we.
No !!
They Need to Know about all Crimes, No Cover ups, The Lie they go To Jail for Purgery for Lies. Thank you.
and people who commit crimes do not usually get locked up forever. High court has decided that;s the laws of our country.
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But they should be electronically monitored until deportation.
The Joe Biden govt in America has imported great numbers of 'asylum seekers' who are mainly military age men. They're already causing problems and will be mobilised when needed. Even though Australia doesn't have porous borders to the same extent, this Labor govt knowingly allows detainees with criminal/sexual violence histories to persist in our community.
Aww….we can’t risk offending a public servant, even when they’re doing a God awful job protecting the country!
Are these bureaucrats all "work for the dole" candidates?
I'll take that question on notice
Thanks Jim. Well done.
Good thing he is not in charge of the fire services
Trust me they're cut from the same cloth...
So skilled at avoiding the duties of their own job.
OH WOW! These people dont know ANYTHING! AND the BS - Beggars belief!
Disgusting behaviour
I can’t believe the words and logic coming from this commissioner.
Logic ? Spelled A r r o g a n c e
James paterson you area breathe of fresh air. Well done ,
Dont back down Senator Patterson. You asked the right questions, these people had plenty of notice to get the required information and answer your questions. Just disgusting to see the AFP officers just waffle on when in fact they could get that information in hours.
So grateful for James Paterson. He’s obviously the only person in the room interested in protecting and serving Australian citizens.
The dog ate my homework - why can't they just tell the truth?
The thought of these plebs owning dogs really bugs me
Who do these people think they are?
Contempt of the Senate and remedies for contempt
When the actions of a witness or another person influencing a witness have the effect of obstructing the inquiries of a Senate committee (or future inquiries), those actions may be treated as contempts. Examples of such offences include:
Refusing without reasonable excuse to answer a question;
Giving false or misleading evidence;
Failing to attend or to produce documents when required to do so;
Intimidation of a witness;
Adverse treatment of a witness;
Wilfully disturbing a committee while it is meeting.
I admire Mr. Paterson's tenacity in the face of someone who appears to prefer to be less than helpful, especially given that The Australian public has seen stuff-up after stuff-up in this area. His 'not my job' attitude just doesn't wash given the gravity of events.
How James Paterson can remain calm when he receives stupid and lying words from these people.
"I don't have that information" "I'll need to take that on notice" and "I cant remember what date was that?" Seems to me that is usually the answers when Senator Paterson asks a question or requires information. In a previous meeting the Senator had let his constituants know well beforehand what questions he would be raising and he still didn't get any response that would ckear up the matters.
and they all kept asking Senator Patterson who he was talking about. wtf
Being prepared is professional being paid to be professional is a responsibility.
Being responsible is a minimum as an employee.
People's accents come out when under stress hey?
Federal police commissioner doesn’t want to make the effort……..fire him
Most Australians have had their privacy violated in some way by government and these people are concerned about the PRIVACY OF THESE CRIMINALS!!!
well done senator paterson
Just imagine taking home 180K from the taxpayer, and the outcome of your work effort is.... "Dunno, Ill have to email someone...." I reckon you could probably staff that role and get a similar outcome at about 25 bucks an hour.
Senator, I ask you this, Ive been watching quite a lot in the Senate. Can you let us know if every commitee that testifies in the Senate is as incompetent as they all appear. In the real world none of them would have a job.
👍
Its the first time I've seen murray watt sit there in silence!
10:05 Is that Murray Watt? Tight, tighter, tightest lipped. Repulsive.
This is how the Labor Party runs the country!
The ADF guy is so smug
I’m going to start taking things on notice
That way I won’t have to take responsibility for anything
So why can’t he say how many are monitored by leg braces.
He did say that.
The commissioner is bs ing and backtracking.
Mr Patterson always gets these clowns rattled . Spot on Senator
Its like all the incompetence in the eoom vs one sensible senator patterson
Commissioner Outram is useless!! These public servants don’t believe they are servants nor accountable to the public. They are paid enormous salaries by we the people. How dare they be so arrogant!! Transgressing whose privacy??
These AFP representatives are not doing their job.get out retire.
Incompetence personified.
These corrupt cops need to be held for contempt
I’m gobsmacked 😶.. the arrogance of these public servants 😳🤦🏼♀️🤷♀️
SEN. J PATERSON...SPOT ON, LET THE PEOPLE LEARN THE TRUTH.....
Well done senator thank you for your hard work and diligence.
What an aggressive, non-cooperative witness is doing, displaying his contemptuous attitude to a questioning Senator is, IMO, extraordinary!
Border force!!! We are in real trouble! He is an advacate for illegal migrant rights. Who hired this man
" I'll take that on notice" 😂😂😂
" We don't have that information in front of us"😅😅😅
We'll attempt to answer the question😮😮😮
Clearly this data is important, and they should find a way of compiling and maintaining records.
It seems quite straightforward.
I agree with the other minister who wanted an assurance that the questions on notice would be answered.
They seem reluctant to do so. Why don’t they care about this information?
We have a lot of excellent public servants, and some not so good ones.
Those in senior positions are aware that it is part of their job to be attend these sessions, answer questions and be accountable.
They get paid enormous salaries, and that’s part of the job.
Anyway, thanks again, James for your attention to this issue.
These criminals should not be in this country.
Nice work.
Why do we have British people in so many high positions in law enforcement in Aus such as AFP and ABF when there own country has been destroyed by these very issues. It beggars belief. How can they be more qualified than our own Australian people.
I agree, wondered the same thing. Seems our police force nationwide is flooded with poms. And they all seem seriously woke.
These people are a waste of OUR MONEY.
I cant bear to listen to this..confirms we have absolute incompetent overpaid public servants whi shouldnt have a job..😢
It's obvious that the ABF does not want to protect Australians😢
What a huge lack of incompetence, they just don’t know what the hell they’re doing!
Keep up the good work Senator Paterson. As per usual Labor is covering up their mistakes and no one can answer the questions.
This Government needs to be outed.
They have the data and they should not have to take it on notice. This is a joke.
Frign frustrating...just ask the bloody states and territories to report through daily updates of what is going on with these detainees so it can be kept fairly current and info given to Peterson. Its not bloody rocket science. If I was at a board meeting and saying I'll take it on notice and get back to ya, I'd be out of a job.
Those bureaucrats are impossible.
They are so evasive, are they hiding something?
We need many people like Senator Patterson who are smart enough to scrutinise their nonsense.
You’re doing great. Must be frustrating
Why don't we play this out to its logical conclusion. Just submit questions to the committees in their entirety, they can then ignore them without having to come to questioning. It would save a lot of time....
And over time it gets worse and worse and children are in more and more danger. NO THANKS. Law enforcement were never this dopey and belligerent back when it was safe to be a child in Australia. Enough is enough!
Pause their salary until they answer the questions they are obligated to answer... see how long it takes for the to answer questions then.
I bet they would suddenly turn up to hearings with more answers than the committee could dream up questions for.
But they don't know who has a electric monter on , bullshit.
The AFP commissioner is clueless and needs to be sacked
So it's basicly a crime for us to defeind our selves, and we have to rely on these clowns to protect us, FFS we have email, text messaging, phones calls, and internet access from a mobile device, and these highly paid people take weeks to communicate with other departments, while the criminals can clearly run out-lore organisations form a prison cell.
Do you feel safe because you should not be totaly unprepaired, in this day and age.
Thank God for Senator James Paterson
Well done Senator
Most of these public servants who don't know anything would find it difficult shovelling shit in a stable.
Take that on notuce back to the corrupt uk
The Border Force gentleman does not know how to set up a simple computer system to keep track of dangerous people under his purview. What sheer incompetence or cover up.
I just can't watch the whole presentation, I just get too angry.
This is criminal
Thought it was weird everyone sounded like they had a cold to many bags up the nose.
Incompetence at its best
No sir you do need to keep a running telly every day as to what's happening that's your freaking job
When you get booked for speeding they always refer if you previously had a similar offence? What’s the difference. Useless overpaid public servants.
Bullshit they know.
So let me get this right ... ABF only need to know if someone has visa conditions, and if they are in the community? They don't care how dangerous a person is and any precautions they therefore have to take, ie, a murderer, or accused murderer, I would presume to be more dangerous than a sex offender, and would presume that the officers need to know who they are up against if they need to make contact or detain.
How hard is it to answer a question?
Outram was a potato at AFP and becomes an ABF commissioner they are taking this piss!!!
Squeaky Watt looks confused.
The fact they attempt to try to mansplain and srill makes no sense is hysterical and transparent thats the way they communicate with one another daily lol thats why its completely normal to "them" and complete insanity to us
they always take things on notice, but never come BACK with an answer - SHAMELESS! THEY DON'T DESERVE THESE POSITIONS THEY ARE ON!
Shame on those hiding offenses. Do they have Australian interests or others. Or r these cops bribed. Shame less. They cant provide the relevant information.😢😢
What do all those shiny arses in ABF do all day for there 900k?
That clown from the ABF a disgrace. His obstinance and refusal to answer questions breathtakingly arrogant.
Surely if the senate wants a piece of info the person being questioned now has a need to know that info, on an ongoing basis.
Let me think of every variation of your question so that I don't have to answer your question!
Pathetic, they know. This guy is avoiding ++ Thankyou Senator Paterson.
We live on a computer world and these people dont have statistics to answer James Patersons questions... it's not hard to provide the information required by the Senator.
This is Australia
That foster woman really pisses me off. She's a liar.
If these people were employed by private or public companies, they would all be sacked.
Why do all these top cops have British/Irish accents? Is that weird, or ?....
Yep, and they're all politely woke.
That Pommie tyrant has a stunning way of side stepping the question.
He apparently has to take everything on notice....