LKL - Christian Singer Jennifer Knapp Comes Out - Pt. 1/4
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Can you be both gay and a Christian? When Jennifer Knapp walked away from her successful Christian music career in 2003, fans scratched their heads and wondered why? Now, the popular songstress is ready to talk about her comeback and her coming out! Its been a polarizing topic of discussion within the Christian music industry and by fans. Pastor Bob Botsford says his heart breaks for her. Find out what happens when Knapp and Pastor Botsford sit down face-to-face. Ted Haggard also joins the discussion.
My uncle was gay. Gave me a father figure after my dad died when I was a kid. Never talked about it, but was one of the nicest, kindest, most compassionate guys I ever knew. I have always been very proud of him, and I know he is now with God. Fortunately, I don't have to rely on pastor Bob's interpretation and be coerced into feeling any other way about my uncle, or you, or any other gay person. Hang in there, brother!
I still love you, Jennifer. I knew I fell in love with your music the first time I saw you on stage at Harvest Crusade 1999
LAvenus79 same here! I was at that Harvest Crusade in ‘99, I have all of her music and obviously her salvation message was pleasing to God.
2 Timothy 2:19
"Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord MUST turn away from wickedness."
Are you aware that myriad upon myriad millions of people don't share your religious beliefs?
Why do you believe that everyone is obligated to abide by YOUR religious proscriptions or be dismissed as "wicked"?
Such grandiose Christian supremacy. #icky
In the United States, Christianity is not superior to any other religion, or lack thereof.
Yes, you've shared your interpretation of a Bible verse. So what? Do you think your proclamation asserts a standard for everyone to fall in line behind you?
@@Dr_JSH She would be better off becoming a Buddhist or following some other religion. It’s ok to have same sex attraction but to wilfully persist in same sex acts and to call it good is not compatible with the teachings of Christ Jesus and the Apostles of the New Treatment. While we’re not to judge people who don’t confess the name of Christ, anyone, even the Pope himself, who confessed the name of Christ but persists in going against his standards must be expelled from the church. Jesus himself and Paul no less lay this out as an instruction to Christians. If Jennifer Knapp wants to worship Christ Jesus she must repent of indulging in homosexual acts. Her creator did not design her that way, neither was she born that way.
Yes, but perhaps your perception of “wickedness” is off.
We are to turn away from our judgmental disdain for anyone different, and humbly recognize the image of Christ in our neighbors and serve and love them.
We are be perfected in love which casts out fear, to call out oppression, injustice and speak for those cannot speak for themselves. To Love mercy and do Justice.
The reason the law of God has been summed up in one word by Jesus himself, LOVE, is Because Love does no harm to its neighbor, Jesus also said “Go and bear fruit”.
Her heart and life belong to the Lord, and we should commit that to them.
Each one of us has his/her own heart to cultivate, navigate and nurture and to allow the spirit to search and shine on, so that we might turn from anything in us which is not life..
@@aliciamock1503 That Scripture speaks for itself, with all due respect you are putting a lot of spin in your comment...To add 2 Timothy 3:16-17 “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” and here>> Galatians 5:19-21 "The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who LIVE (habitually practice) like this will NOT inherit the kingdom of GOD." Notice this is speaking about someone who continues/ goes back to a LIFE of sin, not occasional failings like all us Christians have .... "for all stumble in many ways" James 3:2. When someone turns back to a LIFE of sin, that is akin to apostasy and there is not eternal security in that state. My hope is that Jennifer will turn back in TRUE repentance while there's still time. James 5:19-21
My dad is the one who taught Jennifer Knapp to play the guitar. I'm not lying either. In Pittsburg Kansas many years ago...
She's a brave woman. There will be more like her. The more 'liberal' churches will embrace her, and other gays. You are not alone, and there is a place for you.
2degucitas no you’re wrong. Shame on you
There's a place for them in this world but not in heaven.
@@xnnlinsan3100you're not the keeper of the pearly gates
I became a born again christian at 22 yrs old. I was very much in the world. But when I got saved, I gave that all up. Never have a desire to be like that again. Its been over 40 yrs. Im so glad I dont want to be a sinner. I question if these people ever had a true relationship with God?
We must choose to obey God. Yes, we may fail, but we must choose to obey. We are all tempted by sin of some sort, but we must choose to obey and turn from sin. God knows our struggles, but we must choose to obey and get in that mind set of his way, not our way. God will help each one of us with our struggles. Be open to his help and guidance.
Love you Jennifer Knapp, you will never walk alone
A SIN IS A SIN!!!!! All are wages of SIN are death! The greatest commandment is Love...which is failed by humans daily. There is no ranking system. She is being truthful and thats more than most do!!! Love Jennifer no matter what!
The church is not the one she is rejecting. She is rejecting Jesus. It is HIS teachings that we follow.
Yeah It’s no coincidence. She walked away from Christian music at the same time.
Jennifer, I love you even more...and so does God. Love is the real reason we are here. If you love as Christ loved, don't worry about who's gay or who's not or who's Catholic or Jewish or Buddhist or even agnostic and atheist. Don't worry about people who are 'sinning' differently than you are. 'Doctrine' isn't what saves you. Love is what brings you to the light and the truth and love is what keeps you there.
Doctrine doesn’t save you ??? Hmm that why Paul said it said not to lie with a woman just like in Leviticus god gave no permission he says turn from those ways not be of the world that is of the world NOT of god
Wow I remember her music ,and I didn't know this until today, yes I'm a believer and I say like the older people say , sweep around your own door and make sure YOUR nose is clean, before you talk about someone else, God didn't not come to condemn but to redeem and restore.
The hatred here is sad.
I truly believe you can be gay and follow any religious faith you want. You only live once and doing what makes you happy is what's most important. I'm happy for her.
I get it...I was into sexual sin too...I slept with my boyfriend outside of wed lock....
But I realized it was sin, and I realized it wasn't right in the eyes of God, I also realized how much He loves me and I realized how much I love Him...so I wanted to change, I didn't want to have sex outside of wed lock anymore, I understood that what I was doing was VERY sinful in the eyes of God...I stopped with the excuses and trying to justify it to convince myself that it was ok. I knew deep down the way I was living was wrong, just like I believe Jennifer knows the way she's living is not right in the eyes of God.
But here's the thing instead of condemning her like I see most of you have done , I'm going to pray for her just like someone prayed for me because if it wasn't for their prayers I might still be in that bondage of sexual sin....So I encourage you all to do the same.
+Athelia Echeverria And does Jesus still love you or are you going to hell for that? Is there anything between saint and slut? In case you ever get curious, that whole, vast territory between saint and slut is what feminism is about. Best wishes.
I will be going to Heaven because I know Jesus has forgiven me for my sins because I repented, meaning I acknowledged and confessed toThe Lord that how I was living was wrong and not right and sinful in His eyes...I will never be perfect and I still struggle, I'm human but that's no excuse to keep going back to habitually (on purpose) return to sin... Am I going to slip? Yes but if I recognize I slipped in sin and confess to Him I messed up He lovingly forgives me and I am once again right with the Lord Jesus Christ. And He will do the same for you...But without repentance there is no forgiveness.
And yes He still Loves me... And he loves you too.
+Athelia Echeverria You are straight, so you have a choice to wait until marriage. What is Jennifer's choice? Wait until she marries a man and it will be a disaster? - sounds like you want her to be alone and unhappy. Nice. You have no logic reasoning to equate your situation with hers.
+Lynn Mohror
see that is where you are wrong it
does not and will not take a husband or a wife to make someone "Happy" it takes Jesus and Jesus only. As Christians we're not called to be happy, we are called to follow Jesus. That requires us to be uncomfortable sometimes.
Jesus wasn't happy and on the cross to die for our sins, no He was miserable, and very uncomfortable, as a matter fact the night before His crucifixion He stressed out about it so much He sweated blood.. you think pastor Saeed Abadini is happy? he is in a prison in Iran because he will not denounce his faith in Jesus ... do you think his wife is happy right now because her husband is in a prison in Iran? no but she is fighting for her husband and she is clinging to Jesus who has given her a peace that surpasses all understanding through this whole entire thing and guess what she is doing a work for the Kingdom of God ,you think the Christians that were beheaded we're happy? No, the guess what they are right now with her with the the Father.
God is more concerned about our holiness then our happiness....
Followers of Jesus are not called to have it easy but you better believe that we're going to have our reward in Heaven, we're going to live in complete happiness complete holiness complete joy and complete peace, nothing that a man or a woman, a husband or wife, or this whole world can ever offer, and it will be soooooo beyond worth it.
This fading world that has nothing for me, is the closest followers of Jesus will ever get to hell...and for unbelievers of Jesus this world is the closest they will ever get to heaven and I'm sorry but Jennifer is well on her way to that road and if you approve of her lifestyle you are on the same path as her ,praying for you both.
She says she is "no academic scholar..." and she has it right. The tap - dancing she does when asked about whether her lifestyle contradicts scripture was amazing. She should just come out and SAY IT: "Yes Larry, my lifestyle contradicts what my Bible says, but I choose to ignore it....next question?"
In all honesty EVERY ONE THAT JUDGE'S WILL BE JUDGED.... It is not your place to judge and to slander her or talk bad......or I quote" She's going to Hell for living this abomination of life." If she wants to be gay then who are any of you to tell her different......It's sad to know that more people in this world would rather say something bad about someone that is gay...Than look in the mirror and see what sins they have committed themselves. Evey human on this planet will be judged by GOD....We either go to Hell or Heaven......GOD MAKES THAT CHOICE......Not humans...........
I am saved.....I haven't sinned in a long time....I just feel that weather someone chooses to be homosexual should be there choice and no one else's. I believe that we should not judge least we be judged.....I don't believe that just because some on is homosexual that they are going to Hell.....It's just my opinion I am a Devout Lutheran and have been my entire life...I read my bible everyday....when I get up and before I sleep....God Bless you for wanting to save her soul....But when she gets judge's she will by God's hands not but us..
For one I repent every day.....I don't need someone to tell me my ways.....if I see fit to let someone else be the way they are then I guess I'm going to hell. Just because of that belief I have...does not mean I will go to Hell...I see it as that if I'm going to judge then I will be judged.....
Thank you so much for making easier to understand. I have a hard time with pride...
Thank you may God Bless you and yours also
Is that your judgment against people who judge sin?
this made me cry... so inspirational
Jennifer is still my favorite Christian singer. God loves ALL of His Children, we are not supposed to judge one another but love one another.
Repentance is / must be a part of a saving faith...it's all through the New Testament and WARNINGS of those who don't practice repentance...no eternal security.... Galatians 5:19 -21 to just name ONE. Jesus was ONLY talking about ONE TYPE of Judging, a self-righteous condemning judging...the following statements are Scriptures accepted judging (with dashes before them) ..All through the New Testament there is OTHER JUDGING TO DO:
- Judge righteously ….not by mere appearance
- Hate what is evil…. Cling to what is good…
- You are the SALT > (preserver of good ) and light > good news of the Gospel
- Christians judging in new testament… simon sorcerer…repent, perhaps the Lord will forgive you of such evil …..John the Baptist called out Herod’s marriage to brothers wife as immoral, Paul called out the blacksmith for giving him trouble, Stephen called out the Sanhedrin’s…. “You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit! 52 Was there ever a prophet your ancestors did not persecute?
- "If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.
- If anyone calls himself a brother , but is a drunkard / sexually immoral swindler…do not even sit and eat at some table with them
always loved her, always will. she inspires me so much and there's nothing wrong with being gay and a christian
Hate to tell you this but Scriptur is very clear on ìts position on this regarding this issue
A thread full of Christian's cast stones. Beware the plank in your own eyes and work out your own salvation. Who among you even upon repentance will then walk out the rest of your days perfect. Christ spoke not of homosexuality. Paul did, but is Paul your Lord, your Christ? God is Love. *Closes book*
Actually Jesus spoke against sexual immorality which includes any form of homosexuality. Also your logic about Paul is very illogical. The church today was very much founded upon the ideas that Paul wrote in his letters. (humility, unity, exc..) If you can just take the parts out about things that Jesus did not very specifically mention then what part of it are we to believe?
***** Actually no, I was referring to the original comment... I have no idea why you thought I was talking to you considering everything I said was agreeing with you. Your lack of logic causes me to believe that you are uneducated and has nothing better to do with your life then to argue on the internet. By the way your comment has 96 words while mine has a measly 56 words; by definition of, "running your mouth", I think you are the clear winner. As for you reading my comment three times, I'm sorry you had to waste your time on that. You should be focusing it on other things, such as graduating high school maybe. Then you will hopefully be able to read something, take the context clues, and make an educated guess on whose UA-cam comments are referring to who. By the way don't put any mustard on that burn... lol
***** I knew you would appreciate a good sense of humor.
I would have said this, but another person made it shorter for me. Are you such a moron that you can't even enterpret such a basic concept from simple text (Bible)? I don't think so. You know the Bible (and Jesus) condemen it. You are just lying to yourself and others. It's hard for me to believe you are stupid enough to not be able to enterpret simple scripture. If you repeatedly interpreted procedures and specifications that way at work, you would be fired quickly. As I said at the beginning, I couldn't put it better than Apologetics Press did: Jesus condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew 19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19). These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly what God views as a morally permissible marriage. He stated:
Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:4-6).
By defining marriage as between one male and one female, Jesus effectively condemned all other arrangements, including but not limited to one man and two women, one woman and two men, three men and one woman, three men and three women, one man and one man, one woman and one animal, etc.
DetroitDubsteppa We ought to heed this advice brother, yes. "Beware the plank in your own eye". But the rest of what you said is nonsense, I'm afraid. So we ought to pick and choose from Paul's writing what is authoritative because he's not Jesus? Did not Jesus explicitly choose Paul for the ministry, miraculously, and inspire him in his teachings and writings? But if you don't believe in the inspiration of scripture, then that's another matter entirely. And if you don't believe scripture is inspired or authoritative, what makes you hold Jesus' words any higher? And Jesus didn't specifically address a lot of things. You can't make arguments from silence. Especially considering we have every other reason to believe that Jesus upheld the moral teachings of the Torah, which as the eternal Word of God, and God's own Son, He is the author of. Brother, I love you, but you need to reassess what you believe here. Bless you.
Good for you Jennifer. I saw you several times in concert when I was a teenager. Always loved your music. Your courage in this regard has led thousands of young people to salvation and made them feel accepted and welcome in the church. Young people who have always been believers but have been scared away by the judgment of narrow minds that tell them they can’t be Christians based on their sexual orientation. No human has the right to say who’s welcome in the church and furthermore heaven. God Bless Jennifer I cant wait to hear more music from you.
Jennifer is a beautiful and amazingly talented singer and songwriter! A person's sexual orientation does not define them, and I think it's absolutely ridiculous that so many people are getting so upset that this obviously devoted Christian also happens to have a girlfriend. Sex does not define love. I think Jen is an awesome role model, especially for Christians who are afraid to come out of the closet as gay.
God help us all
Im a gay SEKS man whom love Christ and I so relate to Jennifer.
Homosexuality is a choice and that choice has eternal consequences, saying "I was born this way" is an excuse to avoid responsibility of there own actions.then again we where all born into sin till we learn to turn from a life of sin.
I'm proud of her to come out and God still loves her
I’ve come out too and that is I’m A-Sexual. And I’m not Straight. So if I’m not straight then that means I’m a lesbian or in bi, no I’m not either! And if the churches are judging the LGBTQ people then they are judging me too but that’s not how it is at the church I go too. It’s about the sexual sin , That is what it’s all about at the churches.
I was wondering whatever happened to Knapp, I had the feeling she probably fell from faith.
It doesn't matter what some denominational community thinks, What's the Bible think?
Read Matthew 5:20, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and Hebrews 10:26-27. I agree who cares what people think, the Bible is the authority.
Jennifer, you are wonderful!!! Thank you for letting your light shine for the whole world to see. God doesn't make mistakes, people do. God did good when he created you and your gifts. Thank you again for being a beautiful wonder filled Child of God.
This ole farmer's blue eyes are leakin' tears of Joy!
I love her so much!!! I took all the kids to her concerts, we even went back stage. She's a blessing!
Gosh A LOT of people in the comments are being VERY rude. Thank you Ms Knapp for coming out!
It’s sad. God calls us all out of immorality. No matter what the draw is, we all have to conform ourselves to Christ.
Jennifer, you were my hero and now you are still my hero. I'm in love with Jesus. And I'm in love with my girlfriend and have been for almost 4 years. I believe that in Christ we can be who we are. Praise God for your courage. I hope I'll be as courageous!!!
16dutch
1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associatewith sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that. *you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral* or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? *Are you not to judge those inside?* 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Do you feel your bible speaks against it?
My bible loves me.
My God loves me. ♡
Thanks for your words, Jennifer! I graduated from Wheaton and we appreciated your presence last year at OneWheaton. I have shared (through a video response) a video entitled, "It Gets Better for Christians: Exploring Homosexuality in the Bible" that I made to discuss the seven passages of Scripture that are often used to condemn homosexuality within the Church. Thank you for speaking out, Jennifer!
Have a blessed life sir, Jesus died for yours and my shortcomings, because of God's perfection, we as imperfect humans cannot be with him, but through the perfect life of Jesus and by putting faith in his death, burial and resurrection we can attain this perfection through Jesus. We are bound up in sinful flesh, but one who puts faith in God is renewed in soul and spirit, these are the eternal parts of us humans.
False converts happen all the time, and "The sinners prayer" is not biblical, and has never saved anyone..
Who are we to judge? He who is without sin may throw the first stone. I'm conservative and a Christian. I have her first three albums, which all have great Christian meanings. Actually I believe that a lot of people who expect to go to heaven are going to be surprised. Yes, I believe the Bible gives us a fantastic moral code. I don't expect to make it up there. My life has been far from perfect. Nobody should try to turn away anybody who seeks the love of God.
Mike Scholes AMEN BROTHER❤❤❤😊😊😊
You are not reading your Bible with that comment.
Mike Scholes
1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associatewith sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is *sexually immoral* or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
You need to read the Bible, dude!
Jesus says" to judge with a righteous judgment"....... Doesn't Apple tree bear oranges or doesn't orange tree bear apples....
Amen 🙏🏻
So true. I am a gay Christian and I don't go to church anymore because I am so sick of how I am treated by other Christians.
That’s okay they are judging you, don’t go to that church. I have found a church where they do not judge me! And I’ve committed a lot of sexual sin! Oh and I’m not straight.
truly anointed singer - hope she has landed in a church that welcomes her
She handled herself beautifully. I love and support jennifer knapp. Straight or gay, ever since I was a kid!
I love how she dances around the questions, She sounds very confused.
I'm glad Jennifer has realized the knowledge of a loving, caring God. The issue I have is that in my opinion, God does not condone homosexuality. However, I still believe that God loves her and she is not a bad person at all for being gay.
I still love her music it's always had impact on me.
I am now living in January 2018 and am now finding out that one of my favorite young Christian artists is homosexual. I have no bounds to judge her, "for we all jave fallen short of the glory of God". But she does have a role to set herself as an example to many young people that are facing the same fears of "coming out" to their family and friends. Whether she is homosexual or not, anything can burden us in secrecy like alcoholism, addiction or hate that may make the public turn against us. I am happy that she is publicly telling the truth instead of letting it be a secret for the rest of her life.
LaQueen Battle
1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associatewith sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that. *you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral* or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? *Are you not to judge those inside?* 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
Paul says its your JOB to judge professed Christians living in sin. He says have no association with them.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Wow, I can't believe how many Christians are so quick to judge Jennifer. It must be nice to be a perfect Christian who never does anything unbiblical. I am a sinner and I am inspired by all her music, past and present. She is a sinner like all of us. What we all can't claim to be is genuine. I love her and I don't judge her and I believe that's what Jesus commanded me to do.
It's sad. She sings about a heaven she will never see.
Oh shut up
She was one of my favorite singers, her songs are so deep and full of faith, and I was genuinely interested in how she defended this sin and she just denied the holy spirit! Christians are to pray for guidance from the holy spirit to rightly divide the word. The bible is pretty clear about homosexuality. I do believe she is a Christian but I believe she won't be happy for the Lord chastens who he loves.
I agree with Jennifer Knapp that there is room for interpretation in the Bible on a number of things...probably a lot of things...including on whether or not homosexuality. Often my fellow Christians (tho' not all of them, of course) are shocked when they find out that I'm ok with gay marriage. I didn't always have this opinion, but then I read some things that made me open to it.
Regardless of how Christians interpret some passages of the Bible, one thing that is not debatable is that ...
Some people are gay and Christian. The church needs to get over it.
The Bible is very clear on homosexuality. We pray that people’s heart will be opened to the truth
I'm Bisexual & an exile outside church who sometimes practices the Faith. Like her, I was a Christian long before I realized that I was Bisexual. I left church for many reasons, but not bisexuality. Later, I met another woman from my old church who also realized that she was "gay". There are more of us out there than people realize. I used to be one of those judgmental Christians who believed it was a sin, but then realized it was simply an inclination we're born with. I choose to be Celibate out of respect for the Lord and his law. I think it's unwise in terms of health for anyone LGBT to be sexually active. But I do not judge them for their choices. They must answer to God for it &, as the Bible says, pay for it in their own bodies.
Remember that the New Testament condemns homosexuality just as clearly as the Old: Romans 1:26-28, 1 Cor. 6:9-10, Col. 3:5-6, Jude 7, plus Matt. 19:4-6, etc.
Xander Taylor
1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associatewith sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that. *you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral* or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? *Are you not to judge those inside?* 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
God is God alone, he doesn't need our 2 cent opinions! It's not for us to decide, we all have to stand before God for ourselves and answer for the life we have led.
She is brave and awesome. Thanks Jennifer Knapp!
There's nothing wrong with being Gay. I'm a Christian and i too am Gay, but i still love God and i know that God still loves me!! God Bless
Asking whether you have to choose between being Christian or being gay implies that being gay is a choice.
I just bought 2 of her CD's here in Waco Tx ..I found them in the Christian Music genere..I think thats great that they still have her in that genre....
Poor girl...I pray for her true repentance
the fuck is up with all these homophobic comments here??
My friend told me she was sleeping with her manager who was a married man. This would have been back around the first album.
oh how I love how far we have fallen in regards to the CCM industry. When Michael English had his very public fall, he lost awards that he had won, was basically thrown under the bus by his peers but then he came back stronger in Christ years later. When Sandi Patty had her affair, really nothing came of it and nothing happened - her albums were not removed from stores, she didnt have to give back her awards that she had won and now with Jennifer, she comes out and........yeah. Not sure what is going on in regards to the CCM industry and with Christianity in general, but, Christ said it best when he said - Few would find and walk the straight and narrow path but many are on the road to damnation - few, He said. Let us all pray that we, that you and I, would be one of those few that find life and cling to Him and not to the things of this world which pass away and change in an instant.
Also, in regards to what she calls personal desires in regards to sex, romance, love, etc - what is more important - having someone who you can love, have sex with etc or being in a solid, loving, relationship with Christ....I know some, if not most people, would rather take the sex, love etc but few would want Christ and only Him - FEW! That is scary to think that despite Christ and the work He has done in Jennifers life and through her music, that she would just chuck it all away because of her personal desires. Maybe its time we all got back to the foundation of Christ and repent for not may days are left until He indeed returns and at that return, I think some of us will be amazed by those who are indeed left behind - ones that we thought, oh, they will be taken...I think we all will be amazed when that day does indeed come and He calls those whom He has chosen, He calls them home
When it comes to sin, we cannot and must not pick and choose what we consider sins. Sin is ANYTHING that separates us from the love of Christ. Anything that makes us turn from Him and run to the darkness. It can be sexual sins, pornography addictions, drugs, walking away from Christ, etc, we MUST not pick and choose which sins are indeed sins and which sins are not. When we do that, we begin to walk away from the Truth and we run to the darkness
Amen!
go jenn! I totally support this. love her.
She may claim to be a Christian but in reality she is just a sinner. She wants to serve God and her flesh at the same time. Until she realizes her sin and repents she will lie in her sin. Whether it is homosexuality, porn, drugs etc....Sin is sin, we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, especially myself. I stand in judge of no one, but will pray for her as others have prayed for me. May God bless us, keep us in his love, in his mercy and in his forgiveness....Amen
asumptions & fauls accusations based on what is written is mor wen its understood, we humans have evolved from years on in & we now speak out to free the silence away from those who bring nothing but harm, i am gay & god never neglected me coz humans are capable of that not god him self & his greatness must not be challenged, im thankful for the gifts god gives me so i've counted my blessings many times over thanking him, & now i thank others for speaking out as well & for sticking up for us
She's an awesome musician/ artist who was an inspiration to me at one time in my life. Her faith is between her and her creator.
Are there any other singers in the Contemporary Christian music that have come out?
@ A H Yes they’re is not only Jennifer has came out if you want to know let me w glad help with you .
i am gay & i believe that reading what is written is only one sided, feeling speaks louder to understand mor & its a door to an open mind not to know who we are as an individual but to understand what god gives, god works misterious ways & you dont have to be strait to be given spiritual experiences coz im gay & i do get them, hard to believe then you dont fully believe in gods great works coz god is great & is capable of great things only we as people will live to understand what they are
One day we will stand before a holy God!! Consider that.
deny yourself and pick up your cross... that doesn't mean make yourself happy and indulge in your desires/sins....
Dear Jennifer, I pray that you will accept the truth because I feel you know the truth but skirt around it to fit your lifestyle. It's called lust of the flesh. You know what you're doing does not line up with the Bible. I feel that you are torn because you love Jesus Christ. It must be hard! Let Him deliver you and you will be set free! I love you too Jennifer!
update:she is still in high spirits.
she's helping the likes of Lindsey
Lohan etc.
she no longer has hair an is wearing
glasses now.
she got a little older.
I support her career. Period.
correction. Bitter & sweet. will never flow from the same fountain meaning homosexuality and Christianity does not mix
Wow....a lot of anger, hate, and judgement in the comments here....sad to see...Let GOD be Jennifer's judge....it's not your place. Personally, I am proud of her for being true to herself and being up front about being gay. Very brave girl
Elizabeth newburn Wow, a christian acting like a christian should. Impressive. Good to see. I am an atheist but I had to take notice.
Thank U for the comment
Doesn't the scripture indicate exactly how God feels/judges her lifestyle?
God doesnt make deals with sinners. God will not be mocked. Gods word is perfect and flawless and gives us the standards of living God requires His people to live by. we dont get to pick and choose what we will believe and what we dont. Theres no middle ground. Your in and choose to OBEY AND DO WHAT JESUS SAYS TO DO, OR YOU REJECT HIM AND LIVE YOUR OWN WAY. He isnt Lord of your life if you disobey and choose a life contrary to Gods word. Its pretty simple, but peoples hearts are hard and have strayed from God..The church , the TRUE church KEEPS Gods word and says yes Lord, Your will be done, not mine. I dont judge, and it isnt judging when Gods word is spoken in love , its called speaking the truth. BIG difference. Gods word, not mine.
Kim Westwood Absolutely 100percent correct. The world likes to use words to shame people into caving to there beliefs. If we call ourselves Christians, then our primary aim in life is to find out what pleases the Lord and follow him, not our humanly desires. Otherwise, we're simply living our own lives separate from Him while attaching the word "Christian" to describe us. Why does somebody want to label themselves as a Christian when they don't want to live in Unity with the Lord? I don't understand?
UNTIL THE LION LAYS DOWN WITH THE LAMB, WE ARE ALL AS FILTHY RAGS...
QUIT JUDGING!! SHE KNOWS THE GOSPEL. LISTEN TO HER LYRICS! SHE CLEARLY KNOWS WHO SHE ANSWERS TO...AND IT AINT YOU!!!! GO JEN!! HARLOTS WEB BAND LOVES YOU
Look, I have deep respect for gay individuals who continue to call themselves Christians and seek Christ...but I just wish someone would just say. Well I am a sinner who daily depend on my relationship with Christ and his work on the Cross for my well-being, joy, and salvation....instead of saying there are different interpretations. Preach the Gospel. The Gospel isn't bad news. It is good news. Good news that transforms and save anyone who choose to believe and accept it.
Wow! This is shocking to me! This ALL between her and God. She will answer to Him one day, that's all I have to say about this.
Matthew 7:2 - For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
SuchisLife and tsarbomba: I can see where you are both coming from. This issue can be debated deeply, but one main difference is that Haggard acknowledged he was wrong and has allowed God to make some changes. Knapp has given into her temptation and admits it is her choice to love a woman. Christianity is about repentance.
Romans 1:26-32 (KJV)
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
I pray for repentance in the life of this woman, I pray God gives her a testimony from all this..
If anyone pushes her away from feeling free to read God's word, he is causing our sister to fall and there is no love.
Jacob. we are all Christians here. I would love to discuss this, but let us be respectful & loving to each other with God as our Judge. If you want to make a point, please point to scripture to make that point and I shall do the same. If we don't have to give up sin & all we have to do is believe, why did Paul & the authors of the New Testament talk about sin so much? Why did Jesus bother talking about it if all we have to do is believe in the truth of his sacrifice on the cross?
People can Identify with whatever they want to. This is a Choice.
I’m Christian. My whole family is Christian. However, my sister is lesbian.
Our family accepts and loves her, because we are loving Christians. To us, we know she cannot change her sexual orientation. She has grown up in the exact same way as I have been raised, and she is still this way.
Before all of you start to condemn my family, hear me out. My sister is a better, more genuine Christian than I am. She is, in every way, far more involved in church; she prays every day, she goes to cell group and leads it, she is on the worship team, and she gives her whole heart and soul to the church. Our church accepts her. Does that mean she won’t go to heaven, simply because she isn’t straight? She has never done drugs or anything illegal, and as far as I know, she is the purest and kindest Christian I have met.
We all live in some form of sin... there is no perfect human in the world. Does that mean she won’t go to heaven just because she isn’t straight? Does that mean I will go to heaven even though I am not such a great Christian? My sister does not live in active disobedience. She has tried to change, she did not make a choice to be gay. but she is in a loving and supporting relationship with her Christian girlfriend.
Being Christian honestly should not mean being perfect... it should mean you love God with all your heart and soul. We need to stop being so hateful and ignorant towards others because of their sexual orientations. If all we preach about is love but then we show prejudiced hate, no one will want to even read the Bible in the future. We cannot let that happen because far worse things than “loving gay relationships” will happen. Let’s stop hating on the little things and other people’s lifestyles.
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1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associatewith sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that. *you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral* or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? *Are you not to judge those inside?* 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Yet you believe what you WANT to because you're heart is not right with God. How are you loving her by knowing God says she's going to Hell and NOT telling her the truth? Sounds more like you have cowardice to me.
@@tessw9744 you must be so perfect.
NO. You can not be Christian AND Gay! That's like asking, can a Christian deny Jesus Christ? ABSOLUTELY NOT! God OPEN our eyes!
watch me betch
+Sam Morrow (Bunny), blind and deceived!
John 14:15
"If you love me, you will obey what I command." - Jesus
Amen!!
What a shame! God's word is very clear about homosexuality being a sin on MULTIPLE occasions. If you believe otherwise, you're cherry picking the Bible to suit your own needs.
I pray that she sees the error in her thinking, and that God still loves her and it's not too late to repent. You never know when your hour will be the last on this Earth, or when Christ will return!
not really
YES. It's called, MORAL TRUTH.
I’m so sorry for Jenifer. I’m a professional soloist and I remember enjoying her Christian music 🎵
God loves people. He doesn’t care about anything but holiness. All sin is separation from God. We know this isn’t okay with God because the human race wouldn’t go on without man and wife communion. Humanity would end if everyone was g a y.
Jenifer knows she cannot enter the kingdom of heaven with the sin of homosexuality.
I’m praying for her; for the veil of deception to be lifted.
She will be ok if she truly loves God. He is just.
...one thing not debatable about the Bible is that Christians (like myself) need to behave lovingly towards other people, regardless of whether or not we agree with their opinions or practices.
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The claim that someone can be both gay and Christian makes about as much sense as a claim that a cobra makes a great pet.
Honestly, I have no idea who she is. She says she didn't have the love to do christian music anymore, well duh it's because she was faking it. If anything she is a good representative of many alleged people who say they are christian's but decide to live the nonchristian life and than they get upset when things don't go there way. Pffft!!
You nailed it Gloria T!!
Jennifer Knapp
of course you can be christian and gay and if they dont accept you well it doesnt matter because who you are is more important that any religion
yes--repentence is in the gospel so that must be Preached
This saddens me. I bought an old WOW cd and it had a Jennifer Knapp song on it. I subsequently purchased her "Kansas" cd. I really like her music, and her voice and music style. Someone should tell her that the truth is one. It is never relative, nor is it several. Her statements about the interpretation of the Bible reveal that she is denying the truth, and trying to justify her sin. She follows in the footsteps of Ray Boltz, Ted Haggard, and the like.
I cannot explain this. I know God does not create people to be gay. How could He create so many who He declared to be an abomination?
It doesn't matter what people say, the trurth of the Word of God is not voted on. Like Billy Graham said. "If God doesn't judge the USA for its inequities He owes Sodam and Gomorrah an apology! "
Jennifer isn't lesbian she was probably just abused as is the case with so many lesbians. She needs the right treatment and a real man who will love her. It's a huge waste when beautiful women like her turn gay.
Every girl is a little bit lesbian. Just find someone with good tounge action.
@pennypyro42 . I agree and i think as far as she is spreading message of love (thats what holy bible is all about) to the world and not hurting anyone ,she can call herself a christian.