It really defeats the whole point of Trump's protectionism regarding the southern border to just have high skilled jobs be taken by indentured servants.
That's hyperbole. The southern border brought in gangs, drug cartels, fentanyl and a whole lot of other bad things. Those illegal migrants commit crime (as in the recent news). That is why most of the country supports Trump's stance on this. These H1Bs are professionals--STEMs. They come in legally, they work on your R&D teams, they contribute a net positive rather than a net negative. It's a completely different conversation. I would not like to have my company (if I were to own one) to have to pass up on exceptional talent in favor of a mediocre local hire.
These H1b visas workers live in the best neighborhoods in the USA. They are in the upper middle class more than 70k per year salary. And average about 120k
I dont understand why everyone is surprised by Trump's stance on this. He's been very clear and consistent going all the way back to 2015 that he does not oppose immigration but wants it to be done legally through the proper channels and for vetting to occur so that we are taking in people with valuable skills. Is that not exactly what the H1B program is intended for?
The problem is these billionaires are out of touch. They're chauffeured around everywhere and flying their private jets. They don't see what these policies do to the communities. They're not walking the streets, they're not shopping at the local businesses, they're not riding the buses or the trains that are overcrowded with Indian students and foreign workers.
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
Just remember Elon is not Henry Ford. Tesla had to be propped up by Obamas green tax payer subsidies or it would have been bankrupt. Same for Space X. Back then he was a liberal of course. Now he needs to keep the government gravy train flowing for himself. He might cut the peasants Social Security but he'll keep getting his government checks.
@@ThomasJDavis It's a huge problem when you have a dysfunctional immigration system bringing in large numbers of people within a short period of time when town and cities don't have the infrastructure to accommodate the influx of new arrivals. Roads get overcrowded, public transit gets overcrowded, schools get overwhelmed, long wait times at clinics and hospitals, etc. Not to mention there's not enough housing being built for all these people so prices keep going up while wages stay stagnant. I could go on. Even worse in some small towns. Dumping 10 000 migrants in a town of just 50 000 people is not ok I don't care if they were brought in legally. The system is a mess and in need of reform.
They’re not the ones dealing with the immense change in demographics in the US, we are and guess what? We the actual Americans are the ones left out, the ones thrown to the side!! That’s why we elected Trump in the first place and he just changes views on an issue like this, that is not cool!!!! 😡
We can do both, attract top talent globally and start producing more top talent in USA. We want the best immigrating to USA, Trump has been consistent on that, and making us stronger. After WWII we did "brain drain" and that's one reason why our space program was triumphant. We want them to work with us, not replace Americans. Become Americans. I came from wireless industry, saw the H1Bs grow first hand. Competition with foreign companies is brutal. You were not going to stay afloat if you didn't bring in H1B because the demand for engineers was huge. America needs more American trained engineers.
@@ericp4573 That isn't a very good response. A lot of people voted for Trump because of his America First stances. However this goes against that. Even if you agree with this move, you cannot deny it goes against this position and those who are America First are justifiably upset about it.
Yes we did. This is literally what we voted for. I need cheap workers at my business. Only Trump can get them for us. Yeah, we had to lie a little, but what are you going to do, vote Democrat? HAHAHAHA
It is not his decision. Do😅be gaslighted. There’s no video (on Politico & Newsweek) where Trump personally said all these words. Try to find it yourself. But I agree with prev comment: he’ll surprise us in the future.
Don't be. We are not producing enough engineers in this country to meet demand, and it's created this situation. We need to fix that, but we sure as hell do not want the world's brilliant people going to other nations. That's 40 years of being in the wireless industry talking. There are good points on both sides. this isn't either/or. We can do better getting more Americans to be engineers, and we don't have to let the H1B situation get out of hand as it has.
@@CessnaDriver2 We have a good number of talented engineers. The main issue seems to be related to salary levels and benefits. We don't want to work for food only. But our half-salary for third-world countries is enormous money.
Several years ago I landed a contract-to-hire job as a Software Engineer at a local, well-known Aerospace company. (It was the right thing at the right time ... for a while.) My manager told me that it is "difficult" to bring me on permanently because I am a White Male. His candor was surprising. Shortly thereafter, I landed a permanent position with one of their competitors.
@@ajayyyy H-1B visas were a hot-button issue since the 80's when I was a member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) and the American Physical Society (APS).
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
It's not slave labor. Most H1b visa holders make the same sometimes even a little more. That is a false narrative. They are there to make up for the shortage of tech workers we have in our country.
you mean to tell me the guy who backs Israel before America and told everyone the vaccines were "very safe" doesn't have the best interests of Americans in mind???
Musk came over on H-B1 visa. He created Tesla, which employs 150,000. Tesla has 2,000 H-B1 employees. So Musk created 150,000 jobs for Americans (not including Space X or his the other companies), but gave 2,000 of them to H-B1s. Y'all are crying for nothing. Btw, the US labor force is 170,000,000, and H-B1s account for less than 0.5% of this.
It grieves me that people are trying to call the people of this country who love and are loyal to their country and their people racist. White Americans are some of the most generous, caring people on the planet. There are also black Americans who have a stake in this and they also should be weighing in and supporting their stake in their country. Signed, black legal migrant.
Yes, we Americans are all family and we must not let anyone divide us. We're on the same side and we need to look out for each other because the ones in charge won't
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
I’d rather be a caveman with no technology than be surrounded by people who think I am stupid. Full mask off on what some of you really think of American citizens.
@@Dman-c5cThe fact America actually needs outside talent because apparently we don't have enough skilled individuals here shows were most likely a dying empire.
It is called initiatives.. you can have an initiative to hire Americans or you can have an initiative to hire foreigners. We can still hire foreigners but to pretend we have no talent is obtuse.
I don't care how qualified for a certain job a migrant is Companies in The United States SHOULD GIVE THE JOB TO THE MOST QUALIFIED AMERICAN CITIZEN FIRST AND FOREMOST Also Companies should train American Citizens to make them qualified for jobs.
In the past there simply were not enough American engineers, think about the wireless tech explosion. I had a front row seat to that. American companies would have been left in the dust by foreign competition if we limited to Americans only. Both sides are right on this. I hope people understand that. We can do better. We need way more American engineers. And we need to still bring the smartest people to immigrate to America to work with us, not instead of us.
@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 It is not an easy job. Among the 37 members of the OECD that gave the test, most of which are higher-income countries, the U.S. ranked 22nd in math achievement. It will take decades of hard work to change this
@@sethjones3868 they are not allowed to stay in the United States unless the company that hired them allows them to stay, meaning they will have to work 80-100hr weeks, and they are not being paid that much, they'll accept every pay reduction just to stay in America.
"They're more obsessed with GDP growth than they are with a country's identity." Precisely. And the exact same mindset is what is plaguing the EU as well.
I don't think the EU is really focused on GDP growth. Or if they do, they are really bad at it because all of their policies seem to go against GDP growth. The focus of the EU is not GDP growth, it is turning it into the new Soviet Union.
I've always said Trump is in reality Liberal/Democrat and we've just gone so far left he looks Republican/Conservative. Still have faith in him and think he gets the conversation moving, but I'm definitely disappointed.
Progressives have always said trump is a fake populist trying to gain the rich favor like Hillary clinton.he wanted to drain the swamp so he can become the swamp.
He was literally neither. Once he found out the democrats wasn't who they are. He went to run for Republicans, and ended taking control of the whole party. That why neo-cons aren't a thing anymore pretty much because of him
@@andrewwomble2722 I hoped Trump and at least some of the rest of his team would've learnt their lesson and told Elon and Vivek to stay in their lane. It is what it is.
Hate to say it but if the major people on your side are Loomer and Nikki Haley while the other side has Trump you might be mistaking who the Jared and Ivanka are. Just saying. This view is only hated on by the fringe right or pro government who don’t want the two to cut the government. Each to their own I guess
@@FlyingT20this is not fringe right. My ancestors fought, died, served in colonial congress. Blood and soil is what matters, clearly you don’t have a stake in this country.
The difference between us Conservatives and Liberals is that we have NO problem disagreeing with our side. Trump, Elon, and Vivek are WRONG on this issue and the people need to speak out so we have a chance to change their mind.
This is so spot on. Agreed, objectivity is the name of the game. It’s either right or wrong, left or right, not this relativism/hypocrisy that plagues the left.
If there were enough educated/ talented individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
Trump has said repeatedly, for 8 years, that he supports legal immigration. His wife is a Russian immigrant. Elon came over on a work visa and eventually became a citizen. Explain to me how having legal immigration is not America first?
America First Trump agrees with Elon, as does Vivek and a huge number of the most prominent figures on the right. Ultimately, some visas are a net positive for the country. It is putting America as a whole first. Think of America as a family. Most children are born of the parents, but a few are adopted since the family is generous and wealthy. Should that family rely only on the parents and their children to repair leaks, landscape, garden, etc.? Or is it acceptable for the family to hire gardeners, landscapers, and pumbers from time to time?
I was always weary of Elon but figured his support was better than his opposition. I still think that but we should have always known he was never going to be a genuine MAGA-type and the only reason he supported Trump was because the Biden administration has been trying to screw over SpaceX through DEI and environmental legislation.
I do not like Trump seemingly blindingly agreeing with Elon on everything. All he needed to say is, "we need the best talent in the world to MAGA! But abuses must be ended!" Elon has in places agreed with reasonable reform but also suggested anyone wanting to hire American First (the most diverse nation in the WORLD) is somehow racist. He is all over the place and defensive on this.
He's defensive because he knows that he's being disingenuous. This is not about the *best* talent, nor is it that America doesn't have enough. America has twice as many STEM graduates as there are jobs. The American economy is in recession and there are less job openings than there are qualified candidates. The truth is that Elon is a globalist shill and is not-so-tacitly pushing for the replacement he acted like he was against earlier. Elon did a song and dance, acted like he was with the conservative agenda, and is showing his true colors. Because he has the real power and he knows it. Why would Trump so willingly agree with Elon? Because Trump bows down to power. It's why Trump bows to Elon, Israel, and why he will have to bow to Putin and Xi as well.
Musk came over on H-B1 visa. He created Tesla, which employs 150,000. Tesla has 2,000 H-B1 employees. So Musk created 150,000 jobs for Americans (not including Space X or his the other companies), but gave 2,000 of them to H-B1s. Y'all are crying for nothing. Btw, the US labor force is 170,000,000, and H-B1s account for less than 0.5% of this.
I think we need to hey people that come over on H1 visas more money than what we pay Americans. I think if we start doing that, we might find that these bigger corporations would be willing to take the time to educate Americans to do the jobs they need done. And if it is true that Elon just cannot find an American that is intelligent enough to handle these very important positions, he should have no problem paying more to bring in those types of talents.
Disappointing and stupid. What I like is that there's such outrage. Trump needs to understand that he's our boy only as long as he does what we want. As much as we loathe Biden, we could loathe Trump more, and quickly. He'd better watch it. If Vance became an insurgent against Trump, it would be one hell of a four years, which would make the last four years seem tame, but it isn't impossible.
Absolutely. We have to make sure they lose the midterms. A gop that supports globalism can not get our votes even if it means dem control for a while oh well we have to boycott the gop and force them to earn our votes otherwise we’re screwed either way. We have to say enough with being milk toast
Spot on bro!!!! Black, Indian, white, whatever. As long as they’re AMERICAN!!!!!!🇺🇸 We should be innovating our systems and culture to ensure that we’re stabilizing our society to improve the lives of our CITIZENS
I hope everyone understands that it does not matter who is in the top job because the real issue is a system problem: greed. We have let many parts of our economy take advantage of the American people. This is both upsetting and scary for the future of our country. My husband and I plan to retire in another country in two years. We are very worried that Social Security will not have enough funds. We will depend on his pension, a 403(b), and a strong investment account with my financial advisor, Abby Joseph Cohen. Our national debt keeps growing more and more every month. Our government must get its spending under control and reduce the federal budget.
12:51 Everything this Patrick Bet David guy says should be taken with a grain of salt. The dude literally ran an MLM insurance scam, became a millionaire off of it, then sold it off to distance himself from that shady business. It sickens me...
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
@@f.j.c4444 H1-b visas are not about the greatest minds or top talent being hired in America from outside sources. The top talent gets the 0-1 visa, which is rare and for the truly exceptional talent we want. This issue is about corporations hiring cheap labor with bare minimum qualifications at the expense of qualified American citizens who would be paid more. Additionally the temporary h1-b visas allow corporations to control these immigrants rights by requiring them to work for less in order to stay in America at all. It's literally indentured servitude all over again. It also hurts American citizen workers by driving down their wages or preventing them from getting jobs entirely, despite being more than qualified. It's about Corporate profit margins, not immigration, and it hurts the American worker no matter where they came from.
@@redmanlaw0002 Please ensure you are properly informed about the qualifications. This requirement applies only to specialty occupation jobs, and applicants must possess a minimum of a bachelor's degree or higher. In other words, it will not affect the average individual.
He was never a supporter of Free Speech. Dude was lying from day one. He bought Twitter for the data collection. Also, changed the title of the company to X because "X" is a Satanic symbol. Elon dressed up as Baphomet one time, look it up. He's a genuinely creepy person and I don't think he cares about visiting Mars either. Too busy having fun working to chip all our brains with that Neuralink crap.
Raise the H1-B Visa required minimum wage from $60K to $160K or more as a guardrail, if it is GENUINE that they have such an "extraordinary and scarce" talent, then corporations will not have a problem paying $160K or even more.
But you are aware there is a new president from South Africa right? World's richest too. And Orange hair.listens to him whter you like it or not. So issue should be Trump. Trumps brains is control by SpaceX in other word Elon.
When I worked there, I feel like at least 20-25% of the workforce were foreign. I was an L4 IT Support Engineer I. I got laid-off nearly two years ago now.
@@azula-gn2ef How is he an npc for not supporting the import of millions of indentured servants? It's just what the left does with illegals but done legally. Stop letting corporations replace and undercut citizens with foreigners, simple as that.
@@lostplanet458 he had a majority yet he remember the wall around midterm and yet only 10% was finished. In fact he took a photo of Obama finished wall cause even his border polices are copying Obamas and bidens border policies and that what he used to justify his policies. everyone says Biden was the copier even though trump would always say" well Obama did it tooo." Mind you like the democrats he had a worse infighting under his majority and that clearly going to be the case again. he gave tax payer money for companies to keep jobs here, and didn't bother having anything preventing them from taking our money and dipping a year later closing facilities he said he kept open. he gotten rid of all our safety nets which made covid crush our economy. Also i give trump credit for not doing no major economic change from obama cause legit he did no thing remotely to democrats economics bills that are very popular today. he atleast wise enough to only target safety nets so the illusion is there so when covid hit everything reseted and everyone couldn't get back up. So yes the anti war president who kept us to Afghanistan and wanted a partial withdraw, tried couping Venezuela, and kept hired warmongers he said he wont hire neocon again yet already hired 7 new ones for his cabinet now it totally anti war. but lets airstrike mexico apparently to fight drugs. But i guess it only matters on the impeachments on his second term where he passed the most cause democrats priorities the economy and nation form falling apart from covid that refusing to block bills like republican did for immigration reform. But your right he delivered to the rich by doing tax cuts that gave congress permission to cut funding on program lower class people depend on. But hey you got that tiny tax cut.
Appreciate that you are still expressing your concern about this, I personally feel dismayed as I voted Trump in to fix our problems, not effectively ending our middle class. The hope I had felt these past few weeks can’t help but feel despair, we are now looking at a future where we are going to end up as surfs in the country our ancestors built intended to bring freedom to the people. The betrayal hurts. And yet Elon wonders why the west is not having enough babies. 😡
only 65k H1 B are offered each year, while there are 1-3 millions illegal crossing. The so called immigration bill allowed for a maximum 1500 illegal crossing per day, ie 1.8 millions per year. This is not a perfect world. I would take 65k skillful H1B worker than 1.8millions illegal immigrants
@ How about we shove both and fix our country first? There’s been too many loopholes with both situations and we need to halt to get our country back in working order. And it’s foolish that this is an idea we have to pick and choose just one, cause both are hurting Americans both in the short and long term. Effectively killing every part of the middle class, the irony of the country of freedom and opportunity and it ends up with the citizens becoming serfs.
Not entirely true, the left idolizes that dork, while the right understands what is wrong with the systems but also understands murdering a guy changes absolutely nothing.
The rich upperclass is doing just what I expected: After years of letting their puppet politicians take the blame for policies they promoted, rich capitalists got greedy and used their wealth to take direct control of the government. Now, there's no longer any plausible deniability that they are the ones controlling and ruining the country or that the rest of America is powerless.
If this is Trump way . Trump is not American first. He might as well be RINO too. I reqret defending him to all 8 yrs and voted for him 3 times. Hope he make American first or MAGA can call MIGA make india great again. Pathetic. Do not let them destroy MAGA. I hope Trump change his mind on H1B. We need O1A for genius not H1B for cheap labor not highly skilled. Pathetic. ASIAN Americans for MAGA .
I love this comment. It proves everything I've been saying about The Right being EXACTLY LIKE THE LEFT is 100% true. You act just like they do... because... you're in... A CULT!
Maybe limit the H1B visa. Just have a long meeting this weekend or even next week before trump takes into office. Make a proposal and have a business meeting and solve the problem.
That's the best thing to do, but that's not what guys like Elon Musk and Bill Gates want. Bill Gates was pushing for more H-1B visas in front of congress going back to the 90's.
Hoping it gets reformed, because while I am for taking in the best scientists, engineers, and doctors from around the world, I am totally against the idea of hundreds of thousands of foreigners occupying the average jobs of everyday Americans. Because if the latter comes to fruition, that would be the exact opposite of “America first.”
These visas are government interference in the market. They are government regulation on worker supply. A natural shortage of workers would cause an increase in wages. The government is interfering in that to benefit corporations.
How has he backtracked? He never once said he wanted all work visas cancelled, EVER. This is a non-issue for the most part, and visas are not the big problem with have with immigration
@@Alex-ze2ii trump, Elon, Vivek, Ron desantis, and pretty much every major figurehead on “the right” has claimed that they support LEGAL immigration. Trump has said it probably a thousand times over the last 8 years. Trumps wife is a legal immigrant. Elon is a legal immigrant that came over on a working visa
Its not just tech. Medical professionals too. Who is going to pay for an American education when they know they will be undercut for opportunities by H1B? I cant comment. I dont know how many American MIT graduates Elon hires. Is there a balance, or does he just prefer cheap labor on any level? There is a "genius" level visa - and the H1B Visa isnt it. O-1 Visa: Individuals with Extraordinary Ability or Achievement.
It is happening in Corporate Real Estate Construction Design. This is happening at Senior PM and Director Level. Good luck working for Microsoft, Amazon, Tesla, GM, AON, Blackrock and etc. In corporate real estate.
I’m so sick of all the fighting even before he takes office. There’s a simple solution. Let h1b continue being a thing, but give companies hella incentives to NOT rely on it. I was a big fan of trumps plan to lower the corporate tax rate on companies that build and hire American. That’s a start.
“Let h1b continue being a thing, but give companies hella incentives to NOT rely on it” Like they’re going to do the last part of that statement. They are going to give hella incentives for people to continue using h1b without consequence. In fact there are hella incentives to hire h1b
An old stat from around 15-20 years ago... There are more honors students in India than students in America. Fine, but perhaps the majority of them should be focusing on making their own country great. America first.
Make no mistake, Trump is there to represent his donors and capital. It's the same reason why he was upset about the killing of United Health Care CEO, he grew up with the billionaire class and will represent the billionaire class.
It's a psyop that racists like Ginger and Loomer promote! It's fairly simple issue to fix like Scott Jennings suggested and Elon AGREED. Yet no one is talking about the racist shit ppl said to Vivek BEFORE he clapped back. Trump needs to cut out the racists in the right wing, just like the left is cutting out the woke.
I've said it before, Trump is a 90's bill clinton style "common sense democrat" turned republican, I guess we're about to find out the unfortunate other side of that coin too.
Trump will filter this out and won't be talked about after this slow news week. We are still 1000 times better off than if Kamala and Tampon Tim had won.
Trump has flipped on this issue before. Just keep up the pressure, and don’t lose sight of ALL our priorities. MAGA cannot afford to be fractured with the wolves and snakes at the gates.
I want to hear about numbers. Not one immigrant has been deported yet. They're talking about bringing in more. What will the net results be of those deported vs. those brought in?
I was told way back in 2004-2005 that even though i was a talented engineer that I would not be hired because I was a white male. DEI has rotted out the core of corporate America and they have abused the immigration system to reinforce it. We need talented people in tech that are paid good wages. Way too often salaried positions are indentured servants. I have an hourly engineer position in tech because I am paid better if I took a salary it would be a 50% pay cut for more hours. I am more than qualified to do the job, but I am not willing to take the pay cut and increase in hours just to have a "proper engineering job."
@@williamcrawford7621 Were not just competing with India. What they implied is Americans have to compete with the world for jobs in their own country. Good day.
After looking into this more, I've been turning over a policy idea in my head regarding these visas. It seems that one of the reasons they are so popular with businesses is because businesses don't have to pay a payroll tax on these foreign workers. I think a good compromise between the two sides would be forcing the corporations to pay a payroll tax on all workers, foreign born or domestic, and maybe even a second tax on top of the payroll tax for the privilege of making use of these foreign workers who are supposedly so elite. Then we can remove the cap on how many visas are granted. I'd be very curious to see how popular the visas were after that.
I had a bad feeling when Trump started chumming up with Elon. It is not being on the left to support American workers. Billionaires will be billionaires at the end of the day. Trump needs to let go of Elon and Vivek and move with the masses.
Sadly he can't. Than he must expose how he frauded the election. And unless Orange ain't risking anything. He is willing and ready to let go of you maybe.
It's a psyop that racists like Ginger and Loomer promote! It's fairly simple issue to fix like Scott Jennings suggested and Elon AGREED. Yet no one is talking about the racist shit ppl said to Vivek BEFORE he clapped back. Trump needs to cut out the racists in the right wing, just like the left is cutting out the woke.
Nailed it. The J1 visa should be ended too Martha’s Vineyard and nantucket should have American kids working there for the summer not foreign kids is about strengthening the tent not making it bigger
If they open the flood gates on h1bs in 2025, anyone working in tech will feel it. I work in tech and I know I will feel it. A lot of people in tech who voted for Trump are going to regret that decision
What an issue this is? I find myself agreeing with the racists even though I don't want to. It is never ok to not put the citizens first in any country. Its unfortunate that the racists are the ones championing this issue.
It's a psyop that racists like Ginger and Loomer promote! It's fairly simple issue to fix like Scott Jennings suggested and Elon AGREED. Yet no one is talking about the racist shit ppl said to Vivek BEFORE he clapped back. Trump needs to cut out the racists in the right wing, just like the left is cutting out the woke.
Every year, the hard working worker takes leaves for: Death of Grandma, Grandpa, Stepdad, Step Sis, Bro, dog, cat , hamster etc Lawsuits for DEI etc… Sick days through the wazoo… The H1-B does not take these nor sue No one will say this…
I am tempted to apply - I am an electrician and a HVAC engineer in the U.K. I am fed up with this stupid left wing socialist country. I have always been right voting and thinking and have now lost complete confidence in the U.K.
I mostly think the same. I think MAGA people are just too focused on internal Amercians, which makes sense too, but this point is about LEGAL immigration, not illegal, and this is likely done to help appease the Democratic Party in order to get Trump's policies get approved easier during his term.
It really defeats the whole point of Trump's protectionism regarding the southern border to just have high skilled jobs be taken by indentured servants.
That's hyperbole. The southern border brought in gangs, drug cartels, fentanyl and a whole lot of other bad things. Those illegal migrants commit crime (as in the recent news). That is why most of the country supports Trump's stance on this.
These H1Bs are professionals--STEMs. They come in legally, they work on your R&D teams, they contribute a net positive rather than a net negative. It's a completely different conversation. I would not like to have my company (if I were to own one) to have to pass up on exceptional talent in favor of a mediocre local hire.
These H1b visas workers live in the best neighborhoods in the USA. They are in the upper middle class more than 70k per year salary.
And average about 120k
H1bs have been a scam from day one.
I dont understand why everyone is surprised by Trump's stance on this. He's been very clear and consistent going all the way back to 2015 that he does not oppose immigration but wants it to be done legally through the proper channels and for vetting to occur so that we are taking in people with valuable skills. Is that not exactly what the H1B program is intended for?
@@Kreege h1b is and always has been corrupt
The problem is these billionaires are out of touch. They're chauffeured around everywhere and flying their private jets. They don't see what these policies do to the communities. They're not walking the streets, they're not shopping at the local businesses, they're not riding the buses or the trains that are overcrowded with Indian students and foreign workers.
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
Just remember Elon is not Henry Ford. Tesla had to be propped up by Obamas green tax payer subsidies or it would have been bankrupt. Same for Space X. Back then he was a liberal of course. Now he needs to keep the government gravy train flowing for himself. He might cut the peasants Social Security but he'll keep getting his government checks.
Oh shut up. You talk about these students and workers like they're not supposed to be here. If they're here legally, what's the problem? Honestly!
@@ThomasJDavis It's a huge problem when you have a dysfunctional immigration system bringing in large numbers of people within a short period of time when town and cities don't have the infrastructure to accommodate the influx of new arrivals. Roads get overcrowded, public transit gets overcrowded, schools get overwhelmed, long wait times at clinics and hospitals, etc. Not to mention there's not enough housing being built for all these people so prices keep going up while wages stay stagnant. I could go on. Even worse in some small towns. Dumping 10 000 migrants in a town of just 50 000 people is not ok I don't care if they were brought in legally. The system is a mess and in need of reform.
They’re not the ones dealing with the immense change in demographics in the US, we are and guess what? We the actual Americans are the ones left out, the ones thrown to the side!! That’s why we elected Trump in the first place and he just changes views on an issue like this, that is not cool!!!! 😡
I didn't vote for this
We can do both, attract top talent globally and start producing more top talent in USA. We want the best immigrating to USA, Trump has been consistent on that, and making us stronger. After WWII we did "brain drain" and that's one reason why our space program was triumphant. We want them to work with us, not replace Americans. Become Americans. I came from wireless industry, saw the H1Bs grow first hand. Competition with foreign companies is brutal. You were not going to stay afloat if you didn't bring in H1B because the demand for engineers was huge. America needs more American trained engineers.
Well I did, but if you’re so unhappy you should of voted for Kamala
@@ericp4573nah we had enough of Obomber with his 3rd term. Putting an end to his 4th term was very important, since we avoided ww3 hopefully.
@@ericp4573 That isn't a very good response.
A lot of people voted for Trump because of his America First stances. However this goes against that.
Even if you agree with this move, you cannot deny it goes against this position and those who are America First are justifiably upset about it.
Yes we did. This is literally what we voted for. I need cheap workers at my business. Only Trump can get them for us. Yeah, we had to lie a little, but what are you going to do, vote Democrat? HAHAHAHA
This has quickly become by favorite channel man. Love this guy. Politics or whatever he discusses, full respect brother
SIMP. HA just kidding. It is a good channel. 😀
Disappointed in Trump...by this decision.
Good, stand tall. Trump isn’t going to be right about everything and every once in awhile deserves a little pushback
Bro he's going to disappoint us more
It is not his decision. Do😅be gaslighted. There’s no video (on Politico & Newsweek) where Trump personally said all these words. Try to find it yourself. But I agree with prev comment: he’ll surprise us in the future.
Don't be. We are not producing enough engineers in this country to meet demand, and it's created this situation. We need to fix that, but we sure as hell do not want the world's brilliant people going to other nations. That's 40 years of being in the wireless industry talking. There are good points on both sides. this isn't either/or. We can do better getting more Americans to be engineers, and we don't have to let the H1B situation get out of hand as it has.
@@CessnaDriver2 We have a good number of talented engineers. The main issue seems to be related to salary levels and benefits. We don't want to work for food only. But our half-salary for third-world countries is enormous money.
Several years ago I landed a contract-to-hire job as a Software Engineer at a local, well-known Aerospace company. (It was the right thing at the right time ... for a while.) My manager told me that it is "difficult" to bring me on permanently because I am a White Male. His candor was surprising. Shortly thereafter, I landed a permanent position with one of their competitors.
Lol.. Google "vulnerable narcissism". You seem to have it.
I'm a SWE who got laid off so they could keep the H1B guys on
@@ajayyyy H-1B visas were a hot-button issue since the 80's when I was a member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) and the American Physical Society (APS).
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Good for you!
Trump should ditch elon, he already won and Elon didn't support him for 8yrs prior.
Totally agree trump doesn't need Elon
He gave trump a quarter of a billion dollars
Except when he bought Twitter 3 years prior to the election and exposed the left
Please stop this division
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
CEO's love that slave labor !
It's not slave labor. Most H1b visa holders make the same sometimes even a little more. That is a false narrative. They are there to make up for the shortage of tech workers we have in our country.
You know the whole agriculture industry is basically modern day slavery?
As do leftists who push dei
Paying someone six figures is slave labor?
The average H1B Visa Holder is 170K….definitely slave labor😭
So Trump really has become Elon's lapdog.
you mean to tell me the guy who backs Israel before America and told everyone the vaccines were "very safe" doesn't have the best interests of Americans in mind???
Cry
Took you long enough to figure that out, huh? I got that way before the election. Surprised more conservatives didn't.
President Elon and VP trump
Musk came over on H-B1 visa.
He created Tesla, which employs 150,000.
Tesla has 2,000 H-B1 employees.
So Musk created 150,000 jobs for Americans (not including Space X or his the other companies), but gave 2,000 of them to H-B1s.
Y'all are crying for nothing.
Btw, the US labor force is 170,000,000, and H-B1s account for less than 0.5% of this.
It grieves me that people are trying to call the people of this country who love and are loyal to their country and their people racist. White Americans are some of the most generous, caring people on the planet. There are also black Americans who have a stake in this and they also should be weighing in and supporting their stake in their country. Signed, black legal migrant.
Yes, we Americans are all family and we must not let anyone divide us. We're on the same side and we need to look out for each other because the ones in charge won't
The American Dream are character Traits based on biblical principles.
It's about Americans getting screwed, nobody said Whites. This racist and white nationalist remark was made to scare people into silence.
Trump is getting duped by the Tech Bros.
Well, they should argue their points better so they don't sound illogical and therefore kinda racist sounding.
America last as usual. Business as usual.
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
I’d rather be a caveman with no technology than be surrounded by people who think I am stupid. Full mask off on what some of you really think of American citizens.
We need the best world wide talent too we can’t disregard it it will hurt us in the long run
@@Dman-c5cThe fact America actually needs outside talent because apparently we don't have enough skilled individuals here shows were most likely a dying empire.
It is called initiatives.. you can have an initiative to hire Americans or you can have an initiative to hire foreigners. We can still hire foreigners but to pretend we have no talent is obtuse.
Keep pushing this issue. The base needs to raise hell about it from here on out. Don't let up.
Yeah we need to keep this up for longer than a couple weeks. Let's keep digging
Sadly, it will die when the next big issue comes up.
Trump doesn't can't be re-elected either. So this will go through.
I don't care how qualified for a certain job a migrant is Companies in The United States SHOULD GIVE THE JOB TO THE MOST QUALIFIED AMERICAN CITIZEN FIRST AND FOREMOST Also Companies should train American Citizens to make them qualified for jobs.
In the past there simply were not enough American engineers, think about the wireless tech explosion. I had a front row seat to that. American companies would have been left in the dust by foreign competition if we limited to Americans only. Both sides are right on this. I hope people understand that. We can do better. We need way more American engineers. And we need to still bring the smartest people to immigrate to America to work with us, not instead of us.
@@CessnaDriver2 BS it's all about cheap wages that undermine the American worker.
@@CessnaDriver2that’s in the past not now. For now, they take our jobs
@@CessnaDriver2Stop acting like these are all skilled workers.
@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 It is not an easy job. Among the 37 members of the OECD that gave the test, most of which are higher-income countries, the U.S. ranked 22nd in math achievement. It will take decades of hard work to change this
The control Elon gets over these indentured servants is what he really wants.
Are you referring to the politicians or his employees?
That is a false narrative H1b workers are not slaves they are paid the same and in some cases more than an American workers
He bought Trump.
It’s not indentured servitude when you get paid 170k
@@sethjones3868 they are not allowed to stay in the United States unless the company that hired them allows them to stay, meaning they will have to work 80-100hr weeks, and they are not being paid that much, they'll accept every pay reduction just to stay in America.
"They're more obsessed with GDP growth than they are with a country's identity." Precisely. And the exact same mindset is what is plaguing the EU as well.
I don't think the EU is really focused on GDP growth. Or if they do, they are really bad at it because all of their policies seem to go against GDP growth. The focus of the EU is not GDP growth, it is turning it into the new Soviet Union.
That’s because they aren’t us hahaha they’re not from here
It’s called following capitalism off a cliff 😂😂
The Motto was America 1st. Its supposed to be America 1st not H1B
I've always said Trump is in reality Liberal/Democrat and we've just gone so far left he looks Republican/Conservative. Still have faith in him and think he gets the conversation moving, but I'm definitely disappointed.
He’s neither party, in a 2 party system.
Progressives have always said trump is a fake populist trying to gain the rich favor like Hillary clinton.he wanted to drain the swamp so he can become the swamp.
He was literally neither. Once he found out the democrats wasn't who they are. He went to run for Republicans, and ended taking control of the whole party. That why neo-cons aren't a thing anymore pretty much because of him
Trump is unique. But yeah, I will put him in the Democrat column. The media propaganda and slander made him look like a non-Democrat.
He’s a puppet to the leaders of the evil new world order
So disappointed and dissatisfied with Trump. Went from loving the guy to seeing him as “Not Kamala”. Sucks man
They waited until after the election because they would have gotten BOOED at a Trump rally over this.
He said at a rally that he would give citizenship to Indians who graduated from American colleges.
@@geridamas935what, how did I miss that
Some day Americans will learn the hard way not to vote billionaires into power.
Elon and Vivek are going to be the Jared and Ivanka of this term. God fucking dammit.
Oh you didn't know
You thought billionaires actually care about the average American? LOL!
@@andrewwomble2722 I hoped Trump and at least some of the rest of his team would've learnt their lesson and told Elon and Vivek to stay in their lane. It is what it is.
Hate to say it but if the major people on your side are Loomer and Nikki Haley while the other side has Trump you might be mistaking who the Jared and Ivanka are. Just saying.
This view is only hated on by the fringe right or pro government who don’t want the two to cut the government. Each to their own I guess
@@FlyingT20this is not fringe right. My ancestors fought, died, served in colonial congress. Blood and soil is what matters, clearly you don’t have a stake in this country.
The difference between us Conservatives and Liberals is that we have NO problem disagreeing with our side. Trump, Elon, and Vivek are WRONG on this issue and the people need to speak out so we have a chance to change their mind.
Trump needs to fear us
This is so spot on. Agreed, objectivity is the name of the game. It’s either right or wrong, left or right, not this relativism/hypocrisy that plagues the left.
Keep fooling yourselves.
@@katgreer6113 You and your side lost. Get over it 🤣
@@mryorkielover I'm just laughing at anyone who believes politicians are on their side.
America First Elon showing his true colors hope trump doesn’t go back on what he said
If there were enough educated/ talented individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
Trump has said repeatedly, for 8 years, that he supports legal immigration. His wife is a Russian immigrant. Elon came over on a work visa and eventually became a citizen. Explain to me how having legal immigration is not America first?
America First Trump agrees with Elon, as does Vivek and a huge number of the most prominent figures on the right. Ultimately, some visas are a net positive for the country. It is putting America as a whole first.
Think of America as a family. Most children are born of the parents, but a few are adopted since the family is generous and wealthy. Should that family rely only on the parents and their children to repair leaks, landscape, garden, etc.? Or is it acceptable for the family to hire gardeners, landscapers, and pumbers from time to time?
Do you believe Trump was bought?
I was always weary of Elon but figured his support was better than his opposition. I still think that but we should have always known he was never going to be a genuine MAGA-type and the only reason he supported Trump was because the Biden administration has been trying to screw over SpaceX through DEI and environmental legislation.
I do not like Trump seemingly blindingly agreeing with Elon on everything. All he needed to say is, "we need the best talent in the world to MAGA! But abuses must be ended!" Elon has in places agreed with reasonable reform but also suggested anyone wanting to hire American First (the most diverse nation in the WORLD) is somehow racist. He is all over the place and defensive on this.
Elon donated $277 million to Trumps campaign. That wasn't free money.
He's defensive because he knows that he's being disingenuous. This is not about the *best* talent, nor is it that America doesn't have enough. America has twice as many STEM graduates as there are jobs. The American economy is in recession and there are less job openings than there are qualified candidates.
The truth is that Elon is a globalist shill and is not-so-tacitly pushing for the replacement he acted like he was against earlier. Elon did a song and dance, acted like he was with the conservative agenda, and is showing his true colors. Because he has the real power and he knows it. Why would Trump so willingly agree with Elon? Because Trump bows down to power. It's why Trump bows to Elon, Israel, and why he will have to bow to Putin and Xi as well.
Don’t forget. Elon donated $100 Million to Trump’s campaign.
President Elon and vp trump
Musk came over on H-B1 visa.
He created Tesla, which employs 150,000.
Tesla has 2,000 H-B1 employees.
So Musk created 150,000 jobs for Americans (not including Space X or his the other companies), but gave 2,000 of them to H-B1s.
Y'all are crying for nothing.
Btw, the US labor force is 170,000,000, and H-B1s account for less than 0.5% of this.
There’s enough talent in America
Yes, there is don't believe the lies. This is about cheap labor.
We should want more.
I think we need to hey people that come over on H1 visas more money than what we pay Americans. I think if we start doing that, we might find that these bigger corporations would be willing to take the time to educate Americans to do the jobs they need done. And if it is true that Elon just cannot find an American that is intelligent enough to handle these very important positions, he should have no problem paying more to bring in those types of talents.
Top talent deserves top protection.
@@ral8031 It's about both actually. Our schools are not producing enough engineers fast enough.
This is the kind of thing that loses big time in midterms, disappointing.
Disappointing and stupid. What I like is that there's such outrage. Trump needs to understand that he's our boy only as long as he does what we want. As much as we loathe Biden, we could loathe Trump more, and quickly. He'd better watch it. If Vance became an insurgent against Trump, it would be one hell of a four years, which would make the last four years seem tame, but it isn't impossible.
Absolutely. We have to make sure they lose the midterms. A gop that supports globalism can not get our votes even if it means dem control for a while oh well we have to boycott the gop and force them to earn our votes otherwise we’re screwed either way. We have to say enough with being milk toast
Spot on bro!!!! Black, Indian, white, whatever. As long as they’re AMERICAN!!!!!!🇺🇸 We should be innovating our systems and culture to ensure that we’re stabilizing our society to improve the lives of our CITIZENS
I AM SO DISAPPOINTED 😔.
I hope everyone understands that it does not matter who is in the top job because the real issue is a system problem: greed. We have let many parts of our economy take advantage of the American people. This is both upsetting and scary for the future of our country. My husband and I plan to retire in another country in two years. We are very worried that Social Security will not have enough funds. We will depend on his pension, a 403(b), and a strong investment account with my financial advisor, Abby Joseph Cohen. Our national debt keeps growing more and more every month. Our government must get its spending under control and reduce the federal budget.
@RosemarieHatch Thank you for sharing.
Funny
Well
When musk hopped on the Trump train, and became a significant player, I immediately became skeptical. Idiots on both sides.
Fuentes proven right once again
H1B isn't high skilled workers; they're cheap labor!
12:51 Everything this Patrick Bet David guy says should be taken with a grain of salt. The dude literally ran an MLM insurance scam, became a millionaire off of it, then sold it off to distance himself from that shady business. It sickens me...
This is not the MAGA an america first movement i voted for I'll take it any day of the week over kamala
Exactly
If there were enough educated individuals in America, there wouldn't be a need to advocate for outside talent and genius. If the "America first" mentality had been prevalent in earlier years, figures like Einstein might never have been welcomed.
@@f.j.c4444 H1-b visas are not about the greatest minds or top talent being hired in America from outside sources. The top talent gets the 0-1 visa, which is rare and for the truly exceptional talent we want. This issue is about corporations hiring cheap labor with bare minimum qualifications at the expense of qualified American citizens who would be paid more. Additionally the temporary h1-b visas allow corporations to control these immigrants rights by requiring them to work for less in order to stay in America at all. It's literally indentured servitude all over again. It also hurts American citizen workers by driving down their wages or preventing them from getting jobs entirely, despite being more than qualified. It's about Corporate profit margins, not immigration, and it hurts the American worker no matter where they came from.
@@redmanlaw0002 Please ensure you are properly informed about the qualifications. This requirement applies only to specialty occupation jobs, and applicants must possess a minimum of a bachelor's degree or higher. In other words, it will not affect the average individual.
😂😂
Someone should ask Elon why Accounts opposed to H1B Visas are get Shut Down and Restricted.
So much for being a Free Speech Absolutist Elon.
He was never a supporter of Free Speech. Dude was lying from day one. He bought Twitter for the data collection. Also, changed the title of the company to X because "X" is a Satanic symbol. Elon dressed up as Baphomet one time, look it up. He's a genuinely creepy person and I don't think he cares about visiting Mars either. Too busy having fun working to chip all our brains with that Neuralink crap.
We need paid speech now
Raise the H1-B Visa required minimum wage from $60K to $160K or more as a guardrail, if it is GENUINE that they have such an "extraordinary and scarce" talent, then corporations will not have a problem paying $160K or even more.
You do NOT have to apologize for your opinion. I supported Trump very strongly in the election. However, I agree with your opinion on Musk.
But you are aware there is a new president from South Africa right? World's richest too. And Orange hair.listens to him whter you like it or not. So issue should be Trump. Trumps brains is control by SpaceX in other word Elon.
Amazon employees have been on strike. Amazon just applied for 9,200 H-1B visas.
When I worked there, I feel like at least 20-25% of the workforce were foreign. I was an L4 IT Support Engineer I. I got laid-off nearly two years ago now.
I'm a SWE who got laid off for the same issue
@@tinman3586That is called PIP. They lay off the bottom 6%
@@ajayyyyAmazon has fierce competition. They use PIP to lay off the bottom 6%
@zheyuanhuang7716 ya, it wasn't Amazon, another large company
We were fucked no matter who got in.
I DON'T TRUST ANYONE ANYMORE!! 🥺.
trust in Gd
@@manonamission2000 I do. He's in control.
If Trump goes along with Elon’s H1B visa plans I’m done with him and the so-called MAGA movement.
Fool me once…
are u an npc?
@@azula-gn2ef How is he an npc for not supporting the import of millions of indentured servants? It's just what the left does with illegals but done legally.
Stop letting corporations replace and undercut citizens with foreigners, simple as that.
So let democrats run the show? That would be astronomically worse
Bye
You have to go along with, no alternative. He made a wide tent in 3 election cycles has to cater to a lot of ppl now.
Very disappointing
Cry
Per usual
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This isn’t a good sign 🤦♀️💯
Now I’m entirely skeptical they’ll do anything they promised. Getting real sick of being lied to💯
Lol this is showing how easy it is to sway people. You guys turn in less than a day even though nothing has happened yet.
Sorry but his record legit wasn't great on his promises
Y’all switch up so fast it’s pathetic he hasn’t even gotten in yet 😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@angelmendez2211 Can you elaborate on his promises he didn't deliver on? He fought 2 impeachments and rinos voting against him at every stage.
@@lostplanet458 he had a majority yet he remember the wall around midterm and yet only 10% was finished. In fact he took a photo of Obama finished wall cause even his border polices are copying Obamas and bidens border policies and that what he used to justify his policies. everyone says Biden was the copier even though trump would always say" well Obama did it tooo." Mind you like the democrats he had a worse infighting under his majority and that clearly going to be the case again. he gave tax payer money for companies to keep jobs here, and didn't bother having anything preventing them from taking our money and dipping a year later closing facilities he said he kept open. he gotten rid of all our safety nets which made covid crush our economy. Also i give trump credit for not doing no major economic change from obama cause legit he did no thing remotely to democrats economics bills that are very popular today. he atleast wise enough to only target safety nets so the illusion is there so when covid hit everything reseted and everyone couldn't get back up. So yes the anti war president who kept us to Afghanistan and wanted a partial withdraw, tried couping Venezuela, and kept hired warmongers he said he wont hire neocon again yet already hired 7 new ones for his cabinet now it totally anti war. but lets airstrike mexico apparently to fight drugs. But i guess it only matters on the impeachments on his second term where he passed the most cause democrats priorities the economy and nation form falling apart from covid that refusing to block bills like republican did for immigration reform. But your right he delivered to the rich by doing tax cuts that gave congress permission to cut funding on program lower class people depend on. But hey you got that tiny tax cut.
This is bullshit this isn’t what I voted for!!!
Hahahaha
Funny 😂
You thought he’d actually do what he said?? 😂😂😂
It just came out PBD has employees at valuetainment on H1b visas
Aaaaand?? Like give it a rest
That dude looks like a conman. Knew it from the first second he selling snake oil
Vivek we don’t agree, we are more than just numbers and we don’t live to serve you politicians
Bro thinks he'll see this
@@TikhonT.😂😂😂😂😂
I go beyond America first - I am AMERICANS first.
Appreciate that you are still expressing your concern about this, I personally feel dismayed as I voted Trump in to fix our problems, not effectively ending our middle class. The hope I had felt these past few weeks can’t help but feel despair, we are now looking at a future where we are going to end up as surfs in the country our ancestors built intended to bring freedom to the people.
The betrayal hurts.
And yet Elon wonders why the west is not having enough babies. 😡
only 65k H1 B are offered each year, while there are 1-3 millions illegal crossing. The so called immigration bill allowed for a maximum 1500 illegal crossing per day, ie 1.8 millions per year.
This is not a perfect world. I would take 65k skillful H1B worker than 1.8millions illegal immigrants
@ How about we shove both and fix our country first? There’s been too many loopholes with both situations and we need to halt to get our country back in working order. And it’s foolish that this is an idea we have to pick and choose just one, cause both are hurting Americans both in the short and long term. Effectively killing every part of the middle class, the irony of the country of freedom and opportunity and it ends up with the citizens becoming serfs.
If you know the power players & donors, this is no surprise. Trump is not in control.
Exactly
Just like the Luigi incident, left and right are united and railing against the corporations hurting ordinary people.
Not entirely true, the left idolizes that dork, while the right understands what is wrong with the systems but also understands murdering a guy changes absolutely nothing.
The rich upperclass is doing just what I expected: After years of letting their puppet politicians take the blame for policies they promoted, rich capitalists got greedy and used their wealth to take direct control of the government. Now, there's no longer any plausible deniability that they are the ones controlling and ruining the country or that the rest of America is powerless.
This is capootalism collapsing due to its contradictions. Ie late stage capootalism
Well so much for make America great again, scamed again.
There’s not more qualified people in India. He wants Indians because he can get his 80hr/week workforce that he constantly has asserted that he wants.
If this is Trump way . Trump is not American first. He might as well be RINO too. I reqret defending him to all 8 yrs and voted for him 3 times. Hope he make American first or MAGA can call MIGA make india great again. Pathetic. Do not let them destroy MAGA. I hope Trump change his mind on H1B. We need O1A for genius not H1B for cheap labor not highly skilled. Pathetic. ASIAN Americans for MAGA .
I love this comment. It proves everything I've been saying about The Right being EXACTLY LIKE THE LEFT is 100% true. You act just like they do... because... you're in... A CULT!
You’ve been drinking rino slop
And the money dosent stay in America
And the huge companies paying these people won’t pay taxes either. It’s a lose lose
Maybe limit the H1B visa. Just have a long meeting this weekend or even next week before trump takes into office. Make a proposal and have a business meeting and solve the problem.
That's the best thing to do, but that's not what guys like Elon Musk and Bill Gates want. Bill Gates was pushing for more H-1B visas in front of congress going back to the 90's.
That's what's being discussed. Elon has mentioned and retweeted reform ideas.
Aren't we glad that Elon Musk came to the USA and not any other country????????????? That was H1B.
But at what point does the widespread destruction of a policy outweigh the good that it might potentially produce?
@@The_Darkest_Black_Pill Maybe then lets get into the specifics of the policy, not outright say its bad policy.
No it wasn’t. Musk came here on a student visa, then overstayed - illegally- then started his own company. Please research.
@@lpevans5524 please give the sources of your statement. Note: news/opinion/clickbait articles are not valid sources nor is it considered "research".
@@lpevans5524 please give the sources of your statement. Note: news/opinion/clickbait articles are not valid sources nor is it "research".
Hoping it gets reformed, because while I am for taking in the best scientists, engineers, and doctors from around the world, I am totally against the idea of hundreds of thousands of foreigners occupying the average jobs of everyday Americans. Because if the latter comes to fruition, that would be the exact opposite of “America first.”
Just uninstalled X.
Cry
Want a cookie?
@@pmndza2002 the goal of politics is to make them cry.
@@neverstop108 it must be agony to go through life being pseudoclever.
These visas are government interference in the market. They are government regulation on worker supply.
A natural shortage of workers would cause an increase in wages. The government is interfering in that to benefit corporations.
I love Elon and I am a foreigner but I don’t agree with him here. He’s backtracking on what he’s been preaching. Not good
How has he backtracked? He never once said he wanted all work visas cancelled, EVER. This is a non-issue for the most part, and visas are not the big problem with have with immigration
How so. Please explain in detail how he has backtracked?
@@Alex-ze2ii trump, Elon, Vivek, Ron desantis, and pretty much every major figurehead on “the right” has claimed that they support LEGAL immigration. Trump has said it probably a thousand times over the last 8 years. Trumps wife is a legal immigrant. Elon is a legal immigrant that came over on a working visa
@@Nqd-r6r pretty sure immigration was a huge discussion this election cycle. They touted america first policies... H1B Visas are not america first.
We love it from across the pond
They prayed and wanted it you got it. Deal with it.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. NOT AMERICAN FIRST 😢.
That part of the picture is never going to change.
Americans are following capitalism off a cliff 😂😂 🍿
Cry about it
Its not just tech. Medical professionals too. Who is going to pay for an American education when they know they will be undercut for opportunities by H1B? I cant comment. I dont know how many American MIT graduates Elon hires. Is there a balance, or does he just prefer cheap labor on any level? There is a "genius" level visa - and the H1B Visa isnt it. O-1 Visa: Individuals with Extraordinary Ability or Achievement.
It is happening in Corporate Real Estate Construction Design. This is happening at Senior PM and Director Level. Good luck working for Microsoft, Amazon, Tesla, GM, AON, Blackrock and etc. In corporate real estate.
Repeal Hart-Celler, repeal Simpson-Mazzoli, and build the Wall!!!
A wall we need a dome how we gonna keep the h1b’s out
It’s America 🇺🇸 FIRST. Not India
BEFORE America 🇺🇸
I’m so sick of all the fighting even before he takes office. There’s a simple solution. Let h1b continue being a thing, but give companies hella incentives to NOT rely on it. I was a big fan of trumps plan to lower the corporate tax rate on companies that build and hire American. That’s a start.
Not happening, instead they'll cut red tape in order to make more profit.
“Let h1b continue being a thing, but give companies hella incentives to NOT rely on it” Like they’re going to do the last part of that statement. They are going to give hella incentives for people to continue using h1b without consequence. In fact there are hella incentives to hire h1b
I completely agree with you Ginger. Looks like MAGA has been sold out
Maybe Elon secretly PURCHASED maga
An old stat from around 15-20 years ago... There are more honors students in India than students in America. Fine, but perhaps the majority of them should be focusing on making their own country great. America first.
Yeah and there is also rampant credential fraud in India aswell, its not all it seems.
Make no mistake, Trump is there to represent his donors and capital. It's the same reason why he was upset about the killing of United Health Care CEO, he grew up with the billionaire class and will represent the billionaire class.
But MAGA thought a billionaire funded by billionaires would side with average Joe 😂😂😂😂
@@soberanisfam1323exactly! Easy marks. They got played.
But what about white people 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
I couldn't imagine a more perfect Karma for the MAGATS that Musk called them out for who they are 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's a psyop that racists like Ginger and Loomer promote! It's fairly simple issue to fix like Scott Jennings suggested and Elon AGREED. Yet no one is talking about the racist shit ppl said to Vivek BEFORE he clapped back. Trump needs to cut out the racists in the right wing, just like the left is cutting out the woke.
The r word? 😂😂😂😂
The letter I stand for intelligence in MAGA
You shouldn't be surprised by any of this...these guys aren't conservatives or right-wing populists, they're libertarians.
Elon the snake musk
*president
They want the US to have a new Indian bourgeoisie. More Viveks, Kamalas, Nikki Hailys, etc. We are cookerd.
Make America India basically 😅. I don’t want to think about my vote . Wish I could take it back
Cuz they are better
@@Alice-7777 education is not a priority in our hyper capitalist country.
I've said it before, Trump is a 90's bill clinton style "common sense democrat" turned republican, I guess we're about to find out the unfortunate other side of that coin too.
Trump will filter this out and won't be talked about after this slow news week. We are still 1000 times better off than if Kamala and Tampon Tim had won.
You are correct in that last statement.
Still, it doesn't make this any less disappointing. We'll see how this plays out.
Uniparty. Illusion of choice.
Being better than Kamala doesn't excuse this
Very true but I too disappointed in Trump
Its not even an issue to begin with. It's a CNN issue being made up to divide us.
i never trusted Vivek this whole time dude spews shit about loving obama back in 2012 i feel like vivek is a grifter
He worst than Elon. He will bring in the whole India here on H1b visa if he were president
A lot of politicians are literally just employees. Chamging parties is like changing companies to them.
I had a disgusting feeling in my stomach this would happen, it seems like Nick Fuentes was right after all...
That Goblin wasn’t right. He wanted Kamala to be President and actively used his fellow goblins to pull trump down.
Maybe, but he’s still a grifting jerk
he supported Kamala who wasn't a better option
He always ends up being right
Nick Fuentes told us to vote for Kamala
We need to clean house with or without the government. NO MORE LOW CLASS MIGRANTS
Trump has flipped on this issue before. Just keep up the pressure, and don’t lose sight of ALL our priorities. MAGA cannot afford to be fractured with the wolves and snakes at the gates.
I want to hear about numbers. Not one immigrant has been deported yet. They're talking about bringing in more. What will the net results be of those deported vs. those brought in?
Exactly. They keep talking about “deporting criminals” like they all aren’t criminals by illegally entering
It's like yo they just literally called us dumb and lazy😂 like how we supposed to react. Should we be like, thank you master, thank you.
I was told way back in 2004-2005 that even though i was a talented engineer that I would not be hired because I was a white male. DEI has rotted out the core of corporate America and they have abused the immigration system to reinforce it. We need talented people in tech that are paid good wages. Way too often salaried positions are indentured servants. I have an hourly engineer position in tech because I am paid better if I took a salary it would be a 50% pay cut for more hours. I am more than qualified to do the job, but I am not willing to take the pay cut and increase in hours just to have a "proper engineering job."
I was told this in 1940, when I tried to join the German government
For anyone that reads this the top.1% to top 1% can be from 7 million to 30 million people. Its not as it sounds. Words are important.
Its more about the message than the semantics.
?? .1% is 300k, 1% is 3M
Not exactly. 0.1% of 1.5 billion (roughly the population of India) is "only" 1.5 million, but that is still a lot of course.
@@williamcrawford7621 Were not just competing with India. What they implied is Americans have to compete with the world for jobs in their own country. Good day.
After looking into this more, I've been turning over a policy idea in my head regarding these visas. It seems that one of the reasons they are so popular with businesses is because businesses don't have to pay a payroll tax on these foreign workers. I think a good compromise between the two sides would be forcing the corporations to pay a payroll tax on all workers, foreign born or domestic, and maybe even a second tax on top of the payroll tax for the privilege of making use of these foreign workers who are supposedly so elite. Then we can remove the cap on how many visas are granted. I'd be very curious to see how popular the visas were after that.
Trump don’t sell out I’ve been a musk fan but you are the leader not him
Exactly
Thanks for sticking to your values and not being a sellout.
I had a bad feeling when Trump started chumming up with Elon. It is not being on the left to support American workers. Billionaires will be billionaires at the end of the day. Trump needs to let go of Elon and Vivek and move with the masses.
Trump is a billionaire though, he should've never been trusted either
But Elon gave millions to Trump... and also.. comon dude... Trump is also a billonaire 😂
Sadly he can't. Than he must expose how he frauded the election. And unless Orange ain't risking anything. He is willing and ready to let go of you maybe.
“It is not being on the left to support American workers” you should check out Bernie sanders video he dropped about a day ago 😂😂
IF YOURE GOING TO TAKE THE ADVANTAGES OF BEING AN AMERICAN COMPANY , THEN HIRE AMERICANS! WTF!
Of course. He said this is wat he wanted on campaign trail. Was noone listening?
Not really Vance campaigned against this exact thing and so has trump his rhetoric only changed after musk came into the picture
It's a psyop that racists like Ginger and Loomer promote! It's fairly simple issue to fix like Scott Jennings suggested and Elon AGREED. Yet no one is talking about the racist shit ppl said to Vivek BEFORE he clapped back. Trump needs to cut out the racists in the right wing, just like the left is cutting out the woke.
Nailed it. The J1 visa should be ended too Martha’s Vineyard and nantucket should have American kids working there for the summer not foreign kids is about strengthening the tent not making it bigger
If they open the flood gates on h1bs in 2025, anyone working in tech will feel it. I work in tech and I know I will feel it. A lot of people in tech who voted for Trump are going to regret that decision
It's almost as if Trump has the interest of his billionaire friends and donors instead of his working class supporters.
It really is game over now.
Cry
What an issue this is? I find myself agreeing with the racists even though I don't want to. It is never ok to not put the citizens first in any country. Its unfortunate that the racists are the ones championing this issue.
It's a psyop that racists like Ginger and Loomer promote! It's fairly simple issue to fix like Scott Jennings suggested and Elon AGREED. Yet no one is talking about the racist shit ppl said to Vivek BEFORE he clapped back. Trump needs to cut out the racists in the right wing, just like the left is cutting out the woke.
Yeah it’s a pseudo slave class
Every year, the hard working worker takes leaves for:
Death of Grandma, Grandpa, Stepdad, Step Sis, Bro, dog, cat , hamster etc
Lawsuits for DEI etc…
Sick days through the wazoo…
The H1-B does not take these nor sue
No one will say this…
They ain't loyal to the soil.
A US citizen would definitely work harder and cheaper if they were threatened to be exported to India
In a nutshell, Elon bought Trump wow and all this time I thought he could never be bought
Why because he said so?
It’s not just IT. I’m noticing a lot of more Indian doctors in healthcare also!
Proud of you for speaking your mind, brother. Keep it going, let other loud voices follow your lead.
I am tempted to apply - I am an electrician and a HVAC engineer in the U.K. I am fed up with this stupid left wing socialist country. I have always been right voting and thinking and have now lost complete confidence in the U.K.
Trump’s been saying all along to shut down illegal immigration, but increase legal immigration. What’s the problem??
I mostly think the same. I think MAGA people are just too focused on internal Amercians, which makes sense too, but this point is about LEGAL immigration, not illegal, and this is likely done to help appease the Democratic Party in order to get Trump's policies get approved easier during his term.
Because it’s going to hurt American workers and make sure nothing improves for us
@@whoisandreyyits LEGAL replacement vs illegal replacement.
@@MUSSOLINIAN which also was a part of his campaign promise on LEGAL immigration
Like Trump said, we want to build an all-star team by using legal immigration. Just like how the country was built..
We all need to chill. He hasn’t even taken office yet just give him a chance.