The funniest thing about younger skateboarders calling Tony Hawk a sell out is the fact that they probably wouldn't have even heard of skateboarding had it not been brought to a more mainstream market. I can confidently say I wouldn't be skating right now if it weren't for the Tony Hawk games.
I just had this same conversation with my little brother, all we did was play Tony Hawk games every edition. The one with Dark Vator and his light saber was my favorite.
savage davvaci Rodney Mullen has done more for the art of skateboarding while Tony has done more for the popularity and mainstream success of skateboarding. Arguing who is more important is a useless argument because without Rodney, there would be no Tony, but without Tony, nobody outside of skateboarders would know who Rodney is
Last time I checked, Hawk had a net worth of over 120 million dollars. At any time he could quit skating and live a very comfortable life yet he chooses to do huge 540's in pools where he could hang up and end up in a wheel chair. I don't doubt his love for skating for a moment.
Larry Finklestein anyone that doubts his love and commitment to the sport and culture is a fucking idiot. He’s the perfect ambassador of what we all love, skateboarding, and he’s catapulted our culture into being relevant and acceptable among the common culture. Skateboarding is one of the most difficult sports and it’s nice to see people appreciate what we all do nowadays. Skateboarders are high tier athletes, Tony Hawk is like 70% of the reason that we get seen as such
once read a story about Tony, which i instantly believed. At some skating contest, getting ready to leave. Tony saw this little kid crying, asked what was up, the kid told him, he was too late to get an autograph of Bam Margera (which was his hero) So Tony took the little guy backstage, looked up Bam Margera, told Bam the story. And Bam gave the kid a board, signed by like 15 pro skaters who were there. Love the fact, that even though Tony wasn't the kids hero, he still arranged the autograph from Bam for the kid. That says a lot about the man. A lot of celebrities would get pissed and have their ego's hurt, Tony looked beyond his ego, to give the kid a experience he will remember forever.
Tony was once with his Birdhouse crew in Switzerland one day. My Mum found it out on Twitter and we went straight to the skatepark he was in. We sadly came too late so we couldn't watch the demo and the signing time was almost up, they also said they had no more Birdhouse Products to sell for the autographs (I believe we were talking to clint walker, but I didn't know of him at the time). After my Mum telling Clint that we were on our way as soon as we saw the twitter post, he gave us three Tony Hawk Posters to go sign. We then went to meet Tony and he signed our autographs and shook our hands, aswell as letting us take a picture with him. I won't ever forget the aura that surrounds Tony when you see him in person. I also had him on Xbox Live, but he was never online. I checked everyday just to ask if he would want to try me at Tony Hawk: RIDE.
Joseph petersen, that’s called business. The videos were property of Birdhouse or whatever he named the production company. If they wanted to market that footage themselves then they need to license it. It’s all part of the contract they signed.
Skater or not, when you hear this man speak you hear an intellectual and thoughtful human who is clearly developed beyond the board. Often times people gain fame because they are skilled at something, but you hear them talk, and you realize they have nothing of any value/substance to say...they are just good at what they do. But, it is great to see someone who has a truly artistic/thoughtful temperament who was able to have a voice through some medium.
100%, just watch the Kardashians backwards money hungry self consumed, idiotic cun#ts, useless excuse for people, Tony worked hard from nothing, doing something that takes real skill and effort, he was humble, a true professional, with honor and dignity.
@@kylebookout1789 Tony came to SA in 1989 , with Ray Barbie, he skated our local ramp, it was an honor to skate with him, that day, he inspired me so much , my 50 50's went to backside 5 O grinds, a backside stand up grind on Vert! He was standing on the bottom of the ramp to the side, signing autographs, I will never forget it, I am 47 years old now.
For real. Once you start becoming successful everyone is at your throat. Of course you have your supporters but if people hate on you cause you eating good let em watch.
He should apply that idea to his own life and dealing with people like Taz Pappas, he destroyed a fellow professional's career and helped take food away from that family so.....www.solarmovie.is/link/play/4183036/
TheGrandWhiteFox I love Tony Hawk so much as well, I am gonna spend my $100 just for a street board because I am kinda sick of the lame Penny boards. Tony Hawk has been a huge passion for me, that’s why I love his work so much!
TheGrandWhiteFox I do not hate Tony but lets not forget the amount of people Duane Peters has influenced as well. I had Dwane influencing many 2-3 times at the large club I had on Friday nights at the T bird. The US Bombs with Dwane on vocals. He is Gen X Punk and over 50 and still PUNK like me.
TheGrandWhiteFox I was just informed the reason he is hated. He played a role in a production that was bad for America. It was an Obamawood production called Sandy Hook released before the ink was dry after he was re elected and needed no more votes. He was Robby Parker in that and failed as an actor.
Tony has literally influenced everyone. I don't know anyone who doesn't know who Tony Hawk is. Hell, my 70 year old neighbor asked me if I like Tony Hawk when I was skating by.
Mullen's video sections were the point you realised all these tricks you've been doing aren't just some make believe video game nonsense, they were invented and executed by a living breathing man. Mullen and Hawk are both legends in their own rights.
Jack Duggan That is so true! When i first played Tony Hawk pro skater i always thought that these tricks were just nothing more than a fantasy. I never thought it was physically possible to do an Ollie, till I saw a video of Rodney free styling on flat. I think if it wasn't for Tony Hawk and many of the other legends that were involved, many kids of today wouldn't be skating.
I did it. I was 27 years old in Target. Played the THPS demo. I bought a playstation and THPS right then and there. I played every single one that came out after that except "Ride". Oh, and I started skating when I was 13. Still skate a little today. I'm 42. I can't do nollie heels or 360 flips, but it's still really fun to skate with my son.
Calling somebody a sellout when he devoted everything into something that, at that point, had no safe future at all is beyond me. If someone dedicates everything he has into his vision and succeeds, how can you hate on that? If anything, this man is an inspiration and has been for generations
I can still remember being 4 years old. Stepping on a skateboard, rolling away and just feeling free. As i got older, that feeling when you finally land that one trick, no better feeling. Thanks Tony, you've been my hero forever.
joshua ha, I couldn’t even Ollie but I liked riding when I was a kid. Couldn’t really do it in my neighborhood 35 years ago though. Too many skate punks.
@@dp271 McDonalds is tasty even if it's garbage. Sometimes you just want McDonalds. Even if you are rich. Bill Gate's favorite burger spot is Dick's in Seattle which is nearly identical to McDonalds.
@@chan4est well if they like it ok, it's not my life but there are so many other things at least equally tasty (in my opinion) which are also way healthier
Selling out is to receive money for letting someone else dictate how your art or sport is done. If a musician signs a contract that takes away their power to decide the content of their own music, that's selling out. If Tony had signed a contract that obligated him to end each run by standing in a tail grind while shouting "macdonald's is skate-tastic", that would be selling out. But as far as I'm aware he never sold his rights to choose the content of his runs or tricks.
@@dr.floridamanphd thug was the last of the great tony hawk games. You can play pro skaters 1-4 and thug and basically have all the best tony hawk games done.
Sellout is suppose to apply to people that sell their principals and compromise their character for a price, not to people that simply get compensated for their work, be it athlete or artist. I never got fans of either that have the attitude of, "it was better when they only appealed to me and our niche audience." Seems odd for fans to not want the stuff they're fans about to succeed and get exposure on a wider scale.
@We Win That's a lame argument. It's not the success that's at fault for love of any craft or skill being diminished, it's the individual. Tony's constantly been opening up skate parks where there were none and making appearances at them along with his other pro-skater friends precisely to give skaters a place to skate and to expose new people to the joys of skateboarding. Tony's done nothing but use his success and image to spread his love for skateboarding around the world. And if that still doesn't please you, I'll just quote Lemmy Kilmister on the subject of artists being criticized as "sell-outs" for being commercially successful, "why should you be penalized for bringing people joy? Screw 'em! Do what you want."
I call TONS of bands & people sellouts, but be real Tony Hawk isn't a sellout in any way. He's a role model, one of the people that got me into skateboarding. And skating has been part of my everyday life for 15 years.
Bands can lipsync, have ghost writers, have handlers that tell them how to look and act. But for something like Skateboarding, its all Tony out there putting in the hours and putting his body on the line. You cant fake it.
@Whitefright You're the problem. Stop calling rock bands sellouts. It's no different to people calling Tony a sellout. Idiots like you call bands sellouts if they just have their song in a commercial. They're not even in the actual commercial. Instead of being negative and bitter, why not show some support? Be happy that a multi-million dollar company is paying them money to use their song. I've noticed that idiots like you are mainly in the rock, metal, guitar world. I've noticed that pop and rap stars don't seem to get hate for even appearing in the commercial promoting the product. Instead their fans give them praise and are happy for them. Rock and metal fans are some of the most infuriating, narrow minded, hipster mentality pieces of shit. I hope you've grown up a bit since you posted this comment.
Tony isn't a sellout. He just used the endorsements and the corporate sponsorships to catapult skateboarding to a level that it would've never reached and everyone knows it. He used it to build skateparks and show skateboarding to a new audience, thus inspiring an entire new generation of skateboarders that are the pros of the future. With the money he has he could easily retire from skating altogether and stop with the tours and everything yet at 51 he's still going at it, still blowing away our minds even at his age. A true inspiration for everyone. God bless Tony Hawk
Thank you tony I almost cried at some parts I always knew you never sold out and did what was best for skating. I am struggling in school and constantly trying to make new friends and my family situation is very bad but I always have skateboarding to help and always does
I used to play football but when I started skateboarding, I eventually stopped because I decided to do something I really enjoy a lot more! Going to the skatepark and skating with your best friends is the greatest way to spend your time. And if you're a street guy it's nice to meet them at whatever spots you mainly skate. You feel like a real unit and skaters will always make you feel at home when you hang out with them. We all stick together, especially where I live. A lot of the people in the state I live in stick together. Especially if they live in towns/cities/counties that are close to one another.
If he wasn't honest, he wouldn't be sitting here explaining himself, he really doesn't have to. He's one of the best skaters that has ever lived and the moments in the 80s up till now are golden. The guys earned a living honestly nothing wrong with that! He's a pro athletic legend, how is he any different than a basketball player? Thank you Tony Hawk for so many rad memories following you're career, crank the tunes and skate.
People calling Tony Hawk a sell out have absolutely no business sense and most likely still live at home under a roof provided by their parents. You ain't shit. This dude has done so many positive things for skating. Stay in your lane.
JaeOne3345 exactly! If it wasnt for Tony NONE of us would be skating. I grew up skating in the 80s and he was the poster boy for skateboarding. The other Bones crew for sure but Hawk was the face. We owe him a lot. All respect to the Birdman
I still respect this guy, mainstream or not, he's a beast, i got respect for underground cats too, but mainstream or underground they are still skateboarders and still apart of skateboarding. mad respect Tony.
Eirik ^.^ rodney mullen is second but not even a close second, tony hawk is known by literally everyone, skater or not, rodney mullen is a real skaters skater
I was a just little bit into skateboarding and not progressing very quickly until I played THPS at a sleep-over in grade 7. Everyone fell asleep and I played until about 3 or 4 am. After that, I became obsessed with skateboarding. My first job was at a skate shop. I'm turning 32 in a few days, and I haven't stepped foot on a board for about 8 years yet I'm here watching skateboarding videos on UA-cam at 12:30am. Tony Hawk gave me my very first passion in life and without him and his "selling out" I would never have ever enjoyed any of that. You more than deserve every dollar you've ever mad Tony. I think I'm going to skate again this summer for the nostalgia.
Every free park that we skate everyday is because of tony. His "sellout" brought it to the mainstream and showed everyone it's ok for your kid to be a skateboarder.
I'm so happy I got to meet you Tony at the a tour years ago. You inspired me and my riding. I do kiteboarding now but I owe my riding roots to you dude.
Life is so short and incredibly difficult in general. The kinds of people that insult Tony and others by calling them sellouts, most likely have never been faced with the responsibility of having to raise kids, strategize how to handle a mortgage, and generally be anchored with the extraordinary financial strains put on average modern adults. I don't blame him for a second for capitalizing on opportunities to commercialize his success on the board and improve both his and his family's lifestyle. In my opinion, it just represents smart business tactics, as well as the global growth of the one thing in life he is most passionate about.
I remember when my brother was 13 he was being interviewed by our local news on TV and he said "The only reason why i started skating is because of Tony hawk: Pro Skater 2
he flys so fast through the air that its just stuck there. the string knows now not to even bother going back to its regular intended position because it will just end up back over the shoulder when the Hawk soars so it just hangs out on the shoulder now true story
Thank you Tony. From one skater and father to another. You guys are the reason I get to watch skating and skate daily at 44. And it’s not a midlife crisis. Who would have seen that coming in the 80s?
Tony hawk is part of the reason I skate today. Playing tony hawk pro skater 3. Unlocking the skate videos. My first skate video was tony hawks gigantic skatepark tour 2002 and I watched that shit every fucking night. Tony tules
Watching him do the 900 live and playing THPS2 is the reason I had a great childhood of skateboarding. I still ride a board and throw a 360 flip in every once in a while. I’m 31 now and I love seeing skaters out ripping it at the local parks or rails. I’ll always love skating, why I’m also playing the new THPS 1+2 and enjoying the hell out of it. You ain’t a sell out man, you changed the game. Made it completely possible for some of these guys to have a career doing what they love! I’ll definitely be watching the olympics skateboarding.
Tony Hawks Pro skater was the reason I started skating, Muska was my favorite back then and I emulated him in every way possible, I always have been grateful for what Tony Hawk has done for skateboarding, it may not be what it is today if it wasn't for him so thank you Tony I appreciate everything you've done. You've changed my life and millions of others
all the amazing things he does for the skateboard community and those who are not even part of it shows his true character. He doesn't need to explain himself to me or anyone, we've always appreciated and respected him for who he is.
This totally changed my opinion of Tony Hawk. Ive always considered him as a walmart skater and a sellout, but its only because i was ignorant to his state of mind
He’s got a few autobiography books. I’ve read two, one on his life and one on his business ventures. Really good books. Rodney Mullen has a auto biography book as well, which is pretty good. I forget the names of the tony hawk ones but the Rodney Mullen on is called “the mutt” or something
You must not have been old enough to have clear memories from the late 80s thru the 90s... this man WAS alternative sporting in America in the 90s. If you didn't like the big sports like football, basketball, baseball, etc.), you probably watched a good amount of skating, and this was the guy would be watching. Insanely skilled technician, balls of steel, almost unprecedent consistency of success in events, and the 2nd most important figure in skating after Mullen. This is the guy who made skateboarding a mainstream event - or at least mainstream enough to receive regular TV coverage. Back in Hawk's day, they broadcast skateboarding a lot more. Everyone wanted to watch Tony Hawk. This guy is a living legend. Usually the term sellout would apply to someone who accepted money from parties with selfish interests AND let the money they took change them for the worse. So what if Hawk got paid and made a fortune for doing what he loves? I wish I could do that. And everyone else does too if we'd all be honest about it. He took big companies money, used to help skateboarding reach WAY more people than it ever had before. And through it all, the guy never changed in the slightest. He's still that same guy who, at his very core, just loves skating.
Tony Hawk gave skateboarding new life! I probably wouldn't have had any interest in it if it wasn't for the pro skater series, one of my fondest memory as a kid was playing Pro Skater 4, on the college map, cruising around listening to the great music it's soundtrack had that i still listen to today. Tony was always cool af
Tony is pivotal. The Hawk is nothing but the man! Love you Tony from 🇵🇷 Thank you for coming here and delight us all with your incredible heart! You brought so many pros with you... we were literally star struck for ever since❤️❤️
If it wasn't for Tony Hawk, I wouldn't have heard of Chad Muska, without the Muska, I would've never learned to ollie. Had I not learned to ollie, I would definitely not be the same person I am today.
It's nice to see an articulate skater whose vocabulary and ability to express himself isn't bound by the words "cool", "awesome", "great" and "stoked". Wish his intelligence and maturity caught on as well.
Man I wish this interview was around when I was a kid to show my parents and to keep me motivated to skate. Not skating for a decade to make others happy by playing team sports and doing what others wanted me to do is the biggest regret in my life
that's how it happened with me. but it was really rodney mullen in the games that got me to research him and go do his thing. now when kids ask me for a game of s.k.a.t.e. they get destroyed by my flatland.
Tony’s foundation helped fund a big part of our local skatepark. We thought that our city would never fork out a dime for a public skatepark but after the grant they did it. I’ll always be indebted to Tony Hawk for that. We’ve had a pretty solid group of skaters come up over the years and the next generation pushes it and rips a little harder than the last and every one of those kids got their start at the public park.
Tony Hawk was always genuinely my favorite skater; not that he was the only skater I knew. I grew up watching koston, Rodriguez, Reynolds, Mullens, and a bunch more obscure skaters and he was still my favorite.
Captain Limabean it’s funny cause that’s what happened. Maybe tony didn’t have that in mind. But he’s so genuine and consistent. He’s still making games for skaters, not for gamers to become skaters. lol
Dudes like Tony and Rodney are by far top level quality human beings. The way they think, the way they talk, the way they act. I don't think I really need to read a single selfmotivation book after listening a 20 mins interview with them.
I used to play Tony Hawk Pro Skater on GameBoy when I was 10....and when I started playing that game for a first time, I was blown away... Tony Hawk, you inspired me to start skateboarding...
Xavier Ferguson the point he’s making is that it doesn’t feel like “work” because you’re doing something you love for the rest of your life instead of slaving away and getting paid for doing something you hate.
I remember being in class one time and the teacher all asked us what jobs and our dreams what we want to pursue after we graduated high school, and I was the only student in there that had no plans to go to college or get a good job, and all that all I said I wanted to do was to skate. I said I want a job to support myself financially to where I can live a good life and not be in poverty or homeless, but I still get to skate every day because that is my dream. Life is about being happy, and enjoying yourself, and i dont want any money if it means i get to skate every day, and have fun. So i said construction. I get to skate to my job and work all week, and skate on the weekends. Thats the dream.
A man can't make money without people saying he's a sellout? If somebody asked to pay you just to do what you love and have your name on something, you would refuse it?
This man became a big part of my childhood purely through his first couple of Playstation games! I will always remember going to high school each day boasting about scores etc and asking how to find the hidden tapes etc (no internet back then for that kinda thing). Nice to see a video interview and see he's a down to earth type guy!
I can't imagine being one of those people who don't like Tony Hawk. He's so cool and understanding while also advancing skateboarding so much. The 100+ tricks he created earned my respect and admiration. He donates so much through his charity and other fundraisers. Also, he doesn't talk about skating being some super deep and all about being different and who you are. He's just honest
no such thing as a sell out. I hate that term 'sell out' anyone gets success and that makes them a sellout? takes a pretty petty person to call another a sell out.
Ben Brown, a sellout is someone who will do anything for fame or fortune. Tony didn’t sellout. I agree with you on that. But there are plenty of sellouts in every industry. Not just because they’re successful but how they came into that level of success. Disturbed never sold out. They’ve been topping the charts for 20 years. Tupac sold out. He created an image he knew would sell and did it for a man he knew would buy it. There are actors and athletes who will put their name on anything in order to make money regardless of the quality of the product or the ethics of the business. That’s selling out. But being rich and famous? I agree that that alone doesn’t make you a sellout.
Bad Cornflakes, she does most of her own writing which is rare for a pop star. But everything she does is done through many filters to make her songs as radio friendly as possible to hit the largest audience. Nothing about her success feels organic. She’s a pretty face with a decent voice, but beyond that she’s essentially the product of her label’s A&R department. I’d say she’s a sellout.
Tony never betrayed skateboarding by promoting companies like Mac Donald's. He promoted these big companies so that he could make more money and therefore live a better life. Tony made skateboarding popular.
I still remember this computer in my kindergarten class for whatever reason had THPS4 installed on it. I never got to play it but it looked so cool. I later tracked the game down, which inevitably got me into gaming, skating, AND music. Like, damn! this defined my life!
Tony didn't sell out. We bought in.
+Harley Morenstein Damn Harley! Back at it again with the excellent comments.
you watch skate vids?
suh dude
LA Turtle suh my dude
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1) pick up a dictionary and read the meaning of the word "propoganda".
2) nobody forced anyone at gunpoint ro buy skateboards and clothing.
Tony is a living legend. He doesn't need to explain shit to anyone.
The funniest thing about younger skateboarders calling Tony Hawk a sell out is the fact that they probably wouldn't have even heard of skateboarding had it not been brought to a more mainstream market. I can confidently say I wouldn't be skating right now if it weren't for the Tony Hawk games.
You are spot on there.
Josh, you're right and you're so cute
I just had this same conversation with my little brother, all we did was play Tony Hawk games every edition. The one with Dark Vator and his light saber was my favorite.
i love seeing josh comment on things ngl
oh josh!no one will take you seriously as a street skateboarder that wears a helmet.sighhhhhhhhh
This man has done more for skateboarding than most skaters combined. Calling him a sellout is pure blasphemy.
Heard of Rodney Mullen?
savage davvaci Rodney Mullen has done more for the art of skateboarding while Tony has done more for the popularity and mainstream success of skateboarding. Arguing who is more important is a useless argument because without Rodney, there would be no Tony, but without Tony, nobody outside of skateboarders would know who Rodney is
@@paulmoore5392 Tony is a business man but a real skateboarder I disagree, dude wanted fame. He was hated in his day for a reason.
@@onepunch5907 he was hated because no skater has ever been as big as he is when he reached popularity..like nobody in the history of skateboarding
@@flakyderelict9820 what about Rodney?
Tony built my local park. Thank you McDonald's.
lol you are the man !!
haha
that's amazing
Krisco Dangus He also paid for the park I grew up skating at.
You live here in Oregon.
Last time I checked, Hawk had a net worth of over 120 million dollars. At any time he could quit skating and live a very comfortable life yet he chooses to do huge 540's in pools where he could hang up and end up in a wheel chair. I don't doubt his love for skating for a moment.
Larry Finklestein anyone that doubts his love and commitment to the sport and culture is a fucking idiot. He’s the perfect ambassador of what we all love, skateboarding, and he’s catapulted our culture into being relevant and acceptable among the common culture. Skateboarding is one of the most difficult sports and it’s nice to see people appreciate what we all do nowadays. Skateboarders are high tier athletes, Tony Hawk is like 70% of the reason that we get seen as such
Larry Finklestein Huge 540’s 🧐
We Win you are an idiot
once read a story about Tony, which i instantly believed.
At some skating contest, getting ready to leave. Tony saw this little kid crying, asked what was up, the kid told him, he was too late to get an autograph of Bam Margera (which was his hero)
So Tony took the little guy backstage, looked up Bam Margera, told Bam the story.
And Bam gave the kid a board, signed by like 15 pro skaters who were there.
Love the fact, that even though Tony wasn't the kids hero, he still arranged the autograph from Bam for the kid.
That says a lot about the man.
A lot of celebrities would get pissed and have their ego's hurt, Tony looked beyond his ego, to give the kid a experience he will remember forever.
As a father that skated and have a son that skates, this made me tear up. That's good stuff right there.
That's the fakest shit Ive ever heard
Tony was once with his Birdhouse crew in Switzerland one day. My Mum found it out on Twitter and we went straight to the skatepark he was in.
We sadly came too late so we couldn't watch the demo and the signing time was almost up, they also said they had no more Birdhouse Products to sell for the autographs (I believe we were talking to clint walker, but I didn't know of him at the time).
After my Mum telling Clint that we were on our way as soon as we saw the twitter post, he gave us three Tony Hawk Posters to go sign.
We then went to meet Tony and he signed our autographs and shook our hands, aswell as letting us take a picture with him.
I won't ever forget the aura that surrounds Tony when you see him in person. I also had him on Xbox Live, but he was never online. I checked everyday just to ask if he would want to try me at Tony Hawk: RIDE.
Yeah...how about the people he toured with that had to buy their footage from birdhouse if they wanted to use it for themselves? scumbag
Joseph petersen, that’s called business. The videos were property of Birdhouse or whatever he named the production company. If they wanted to market that footage themselves then they need to license it.
It’s all part of the contract they signed.
Skater or not, when you hear this man speak you hear an intellectual and thoughtful human who is clearly developed beyond the board. Often times people gain fame because they are skilled at something, but you hear them talk, and you realize they have nothing of any value/substance to say...they are just good at what they do. But, it is great to see someone who has a truly artistic/thoughtful temperament who was able to have a voice through some medium.
100%, just watch the Kardashians backwards money hungry self consumed, idiotic cun#ts, useless excuse for people, Tony worked hard from nothing, doing something that takes real skill and effort, he was humble, a true professional, with honor and dignity.
Good point!
Great fuckin comment.
@@kylebookout1789 Tony came to SA in 1989 , with Ray Barbie, he skated our local ramp, it was an honor to skate with him, that day, he inspired me so much , my 50 50's went to backside 5 O grinds, a backside stand up grind on Vert! He was standing on the bottom of the ramp to the side, signing autographs, I will never forget it, I am 47 years old now.
High Iq
THPS2 is the reason I jumped on a skateboard.
THPS3 got me on a skateboard
THPS4 is where its at. Skating the zoo and watching the hippos fuck
411VM
my reason is Tony Hawk Project 8
+Oscar godoy I take that back. the actual game that got me on a board is thug1 ! the story line was awesome for its time.
The Tony Hawk foundation donated $ 10,000 to the new skate park in my city.
Lucky dude
That’s really cool man
You're not a sellout if you give back to what made you successful.
Ridiculousness
It's not selling out if you give some of it back lol
Tony had a very good way of phrasing it in this video around the 7:12 mark. God forbid a professional skateboarder be able to feed his family.
For real. Once you start becoming successful everyone is at your throat. Of course you have your supporters but if people hate on you cause you eating good let em watch.
Hey ninja i came to this video after i saw your live cast :)
Ronaldo114 What about Greg Luzka ? He went with K-Swiss and people call him a Sellout. His stuff didn't sell well at all.
He should apply that idea to his own life and dealing with people like Taz Pappas, he destroyed a fellow professional's career and helped take food away from that family so.....www.solarmovie.is/link/play/4183036/
Stephen Gillis Tas Pappas did it to himself.
How can people hate on Tony Hawk? The amount of people this guy influenced through different generations it's unbelievable!
TheGrandWhiteFox I love Tony Hawk so much as well, I am gonna spend my $100 just for a street board because I am kinda sick of the lame Penny boards. Tony Hawk has been a huge passion for me, that’s why I love his work so much!
I'm 5 years older than him and HE is one of my heroes .
TheGrandWhiteFox I do not hate Tony but lets not forget the amount of people Duane Peters has influenced as well. I had Dwane influencing many 2-3 times at the large club I had on Friday nights at the T bird. The US Bombs with Dwane on vocals. He is Gen X Punk and over 50 and still PUNK like me.
TheGrandWhiteFox I was just informed the reason he is hated. He played a role in a production that was bad for America. It was an Obamawood production called Sandy Hook released before the ink was dry after he was re elected and needed no more votes. He was Robby Parker in that and failed as an actor.
A good chunk of people here started skating because of the Hawk
What a great interview
its not an interview its a rant tbh.
radEmma what a great rant
I started skating because of tony hawk pro skater 1...thank you tony
superman by goldfinger
Tony has literally influenced everyone. I don't know anyone who doesn't know who Tony Hawk is. Hell, my 70 year old neighbor asked me if I like Tony Hawk when I was skating by.
Tony Hawks Pro Skater got me into skating. Watched rodney mullen in the video section and thats where it all started!
^this
so accurate
Same here. I think it would be great to see more people doing flatground freestyle like Mullen did too.
Mullen's video sections were the point you realised all these tricks you've been doing aren't just some make believe video game nonsense, they were invented and executed by a living breathing man.
Mullen and Hawk are both legends in their own rights.
Jack Duggan That is so true! When i first played Tony Hawk pro skater i always thought that these tricks were just nothing more than a fantasy. I never thought it was physically possible to do an Ollie, till I saw a video of Rodney free styling on flat. I think if it wasn't for Tony Hawk and many of the other legends that were involved, many kids of today wouldn't be skating.
I did it. I was 27 years old in Target. Played the THPS demo. I bought a playstation and THPS right then and there. I played every single one that came out after that except "Ride".
Oh, and I started skating when I was 13. Still skate a little today. I'm 42. I can't do nollie heels or 360 flips, but it's still really fun to skate with my son.
Can you skate mini ramps of pools?
Calling somebody a sellout when he devoted everything into something that, at that point, had no safe future at all is beyond me. If someone dedicates everything he has into his vision and succeeds, how can you hate on that? If anything, this man is an inspiration and has been for generations
I can still remember being 4 years old. Stepping on a skateboard, rolling away and just feeling free. As i got older, that feeling when you finally land that one trick, no better feeling.
Thanks Tony, you've been my hero forever.
joshua ha, I couldn’t even Ollie but I liked riding when I was a kid. Couldn’t really do it in my neighborhood 35 years ago though. Too many skate punks.
"I've been eating mcdonald's since I was a kid, I still eat it!" lmaoooo
Raid Mitch headburg jokes 😂
I don't get how you can be rich but eat the cheap garbage shit from mcdonalds
@@dp271 McDonalds is tasty even if it's garbage. Sometimes you just want McDonalds. Even if you are rich. Bill Gate's favorite burger spot is Dick's in Seattle which is nearly identical to McDonalds.
@@chan4est well if they like it ok, it's not my life but there are so many other things at least equally tasty (in my opinion) which are also way healthier
It’s a shame he doesn’t rep In & Out. haha
Selling out is to receive money for letting someone else dictate how your art or sport is done. If a musician signs a contract that takes away their power to decide the content of their own music, that's selling out. If Tony had signed a contract that obligated him to end each run by standing in a tail grind while shouting "macdonald's is skate-tastic", that would be selling out. But as far as I'm aware he never sold his rights to choose the content of his runs or tricks.
Lol
is that the symbol for a semiconductor? or diode?
Lol.. "MacDonald's is skatetastic"
Activision owns his name in video games. I don't blame him. He doesn't know how to code video games
@Lewis Gulliver that's what Nike and Adidas does. You have to film instaclips wearing all the Nike gear. Walking advertisements literally.
Tony Hawk Underground is still one of the best games out there.
I never got into the Underground games as much. I’m thinking of buying a PS2 and looking for the original THUG just to see what it was all about.
Florida Man IT WAS AMAZING ALONG WITH AMERICAN WASTELAND
@@dr.floridamanphd thug was the last of the great tony hawk games. You can play pro skaters 1-4 and thug and basically have all the best tony hawk games done.
@@dr.floridamanphd Don't bother, I tried THPS Underground 2 back then and it wasn't as great or leave a big impression like THPS1-THPS4.
American wasteland is up there too
"You are a sellout"
=
"I wish I wasn't a failure"
Sellout is suppose to apply to people that sell their principals and compromise their character for a price, not to people that simply get compensated for their work, be it athlete or artist. I never got fans of either that have the attitude of, "it was better when they only appealed to me and our niche audience." Seems odd for fans to not want the stuff they're fans about to succeed and get exposure on a wider scale.
@We Win That's a lame argument. It's not the success that's at fault for love of any craft or skill being diminished, it's the individual. Tony's constantly been opening up skate parks where there were none and making appearances at them along with his other pro-skater friends precisely to give skaters a place to skate and to expose new people to the joys of skateboarding. Tony's done nothing but use his success and image to spread his love for skateboarding around the world. And if that still doesn't please you, I'll just quote Lemmy Kilmister on the subject of artists being criticized as "sell-outs" for being commercially successful, "why should you be penalized for bringing people joy? Screw 'em! Do what you want."
Could NOT agree more.
Nope
You can be a sellout and a failure. Look at Megadeth's Risk album. It bombed.
I call TONS of bands & people sellouts, but be real Tony Hawk isn't a sellout in any way. He's a role model, one of the people that got me into skateboarding. And skating has been part of my everyday life for 15 years.
Bands can lipsync, have ghost writers, have handlers that tell them how to look and act. But for something like Skateboarding, its all Tony out there putting in the hours and putting his body on the line. You cant fake it.
@Whitefright You're the problem. Stop calling rock bands sellouts. It's no different to people calling Tony a sellout. Idiots like you call bands sellouts if they just have their song in a commercial. They're not even in the actual commercial. Instead of being negative and bitter, why not show some support? Be happy that a multi-million dollar company is paying them money to use their song. I've noticed that idiots like you are mainly in the rock, metal, guitar world. I've noticed that pop and rap stars don't seem to get hate for even appearing in the commercial promoting the product. Instead their fans give them praise and are happy for them. Rock and metal fans are some of the most infuriating, narrow minded, hipster mentality pieces of shit. I hope you've grown up a bit since you posted this comment.
@@flannel396 you’re a legend!!!
You don't need to apologize to anyone for your success Tony. You've always been a great ambassador to skateboarding.
I'm a 90's skater so guys like Rodney and Tony, they are definitely not sellouts but icons and the reason why skateboarding even exists.
I've been playing a lot of THPS4 after over a decade of not playing it. It aged surprisingly well and still fun as hell.
+DC3893 Same!!
I gotta pick that up
Hell yeah
2020. I've literally played it for like 200 hours in the past month lol
He grew up down the street from me, same high school and everything
lifes rad Carlsbad lol
and?
Woah cool
Sand Diego
Tony isn't a sellout. He just used the endorsements and the corporate sponsorships to catapult skateboarding to a level that it would've never reached and everyone knows it. He used it to build skateparks and show skateboarding to a new audience, thus inspiring an entire new generation of skateboarders that are the pros of the future. With the money he has he could easily retire from skating altogether and stop with the tours and everything yet at 51 he's still going at it, still blowing away our minds even at his age. A true inspiration for everyone. God bless Tony Hawk
Humble man right there. Great speaker
DavidParody suh suh g
@@Bocsaphoto ganggang
Thank you tony I almost cried at some parts I always knew you never sold out and did what was best for skating. I am struggling in school and constantly trying to make new friends and my family situation is very bad but I always have skateboarding to help and always does
I used to play football but when I started skateboarding, I eventually stopped because I decided to do something I really enjoy a lot more! Going to the skatepark and skating with your best friends is the greatest way to spend your time. And if you're a street guy it's nice to meet them at whatever spots you mainly skate. You feel like a real unit and skaters will always make you feel at home when you hang out with them. We all stick together, especially where I live. A lot of the people in the state I live in stick together. Especially if they live in towns/cities/counties that are close to one another.
If he wasn't honest, he wouldn't be sitting here explaining himself, he really doesn't have to. He's one of the best skaters that has ever lived and the moments in the 80s up till now are golden.
The guys earned a living honestly nothing wrong with that! He's a pro athletic legend, how is he any different than a basketball player? Thank you Tony Hawk for so many rad memories following you're career, crank the tunes and skate.
People calling Tony Hawk a sell out have absolutely no business sense and most likely still live at home under a roof provided by their parents. You ain't shit. This dude has done so many positive things for skating. Stay in your lane.
JaeOne3345 exactly! If it wasnt for Tony NONE of us would be skating. I grew up skating in the 80s and he was the poster boy for skateboarding. The other Bones crew for sure but Hawk was the face. We owe him a lot. All respect to the Birdman
You'll find the 'haters' would have been his peers who weren't making money like he was.
It is a factual statement that he is a sell out.. Does that mean that people hate him? most the time, no
I don’t hate tony hawk and i like him and yet i’m offended by your comment 😭.
@@Justcarlosdiaz how do you figure he's a sell out? That's a negative term, he hasn't ever stopped doing what he loves.
I still respect this guy, mainstream or not, he's a beast, i got respect for underground cats too, but mainstream or underground they are still skateboarders and still apart of skateboarding. mad respect Tony.
Yeah hypebeast lol
Spawn Of Satan biggest skateboarding pioneer ever, by miles.
Breakfast from Texas rodney mullen?
Eirik ^.^ rodney mullen is second but not even a close second, tony hawk is known by literally everyone, skater or not, rodney mullen is a real skaters skater
@@chocolatebumhole8904 rodney mullen is the biggest pioneer for streetskating
Like him or not, dude is a legend and his skill is real! On top of that he's in his 40's and still shredding!
I love this man. So much humility... So much honor.
My dad skated with Tony when they were young and now I skate and it is just so crazy to hear stories about this legend from someone in my own family.
This man was the greatest thing that ever happened to Skateboarding! It would not be what it is today without him!
I love and support Tony Hawk so much. He is honestly a true inspiration in my eyes.
Making it black and white automatically makes it a lot more deep.
I can only hope that at his age I am half as dope of a guy as him.
Words from the bird himself: "If he can do it, I can do it too, maybe not as stylish or as good, but I can."
I was a just little bit into skateboarding and not progressing very quickly until I played THPS at a sleep-over in grade 7. Everyone fell asleep and I played until about 3 or 4 am. After that, I became obsessed with skateboarding. My first job was at a skate shop. I'm turning 32 in a few days, and I haven't stepped foot on a board for about 8 years yet I'm here watching skateboarding videos on UA-cam at 12:30am. Tony Hawk gave me my very first passion in life and without him and his "selling out" I would never have ever enjoyed any of that. You more than deserve every dollar you've ever mad Tony. I think I'm going to skate again this summer for the nostalgia.
Tony is the best person to handle what he’s done. Once in a lifetime person. Still blown away by his own life. One of the best role models.
Thank you for THPS and for being such a cool guy!
Every free park that we skate everyday is because of tony. His "sellout" brought it to the mainstream and showed everyone it's ok for your kid to be a skateboarder.
I've always gotten a really "good guy" vibe from Tony.
I'm so happy I got to meet you Tony at the a tour years ago. You inspired me and my riding. I do kiteboarding now but I owe my riding roots to you dude.
+Wade WZG I used to snake board dude. But kiteboarding allows me to do much more with boards now. Check out my channel.
Life is so short and incredibly difficult in general. The kinds of people that insult Tony and others by calling them sellouts, most likely have never been faced with the responsibility of having to raise kids, strategize how to handle a mortgage, and generally be anchored with the extraordinary financial strains put on average modern adults. I don't blame him for a second for capitalizing on opportunities to commercialize his success on the board and improve both his and his family's lifestyle. In my opinion, it just represents smart business tactics, as well as the global growth of the one thing in life he is most passionate about.
Dude he owns a mansion with a full course skatepark! Wtf you talking about?!
I remember when my brother was 13 he was being interviewed by our local news on TV and he said "The only reason why i started skating is because of Tony hawk: Pro Skater 2
Mde never dies
Anyone else bothered by his sweat shirt string? Or just me?
Jack Ryan a lot of people mentioned the same thing in the comments haha
you must be OCD then
The fact that Tony doesn't care and let the string do its things just sums him up from what he said in the video :)
he flys so fast through the air that its just stuck there. the string knows now not to even bother going back to its regular intended position because it will just end up back over the shoulder when the Hawk soars so it just hangs out on the shoulder now
true story
Yes It burns my soul.
wow, i absolutely agree with everything, this totally helped people see skating in a different light
Thank you Tony. From one skater and father to another. You guys are the reason I get to watch skating and skate daily at 44. And it’s not a midlife crisis. Who would have seen that coming in the 80s?
Tony is an amazing person. I'll always love him and he'll always be a huge part of my life, along with many other huge skaters.
God damn he's a well-spoken person. A real joy to listen to, I must say.
Tony hawk is part of the reason I skate today. Playing tony hawk pro skater 3. Unlocking the skate videos. My first skate video was tony hawks gigantic skatepark tour 2002 and I watched that shit every fucking night. Tony tules
wow... Tony said turbo grafx... thumbs up to the retro community!
Watching him do the 900 live and playing THPS2 is the reason I had a great childhood of skateboarding. I still ride a board and throw a 360 flip in every once in a while. I’m 31 now and I love seeing skaters out ripping it at the local parks or rails. I’ll always love skating, why I’m also playing the new THPS 1+2 and enjoying the hell out of it. You ain’t a sell out man, you changed the game. Made it completely possible for some of these guys to have a career doing what they love! I’ll definitely be watching the olympics skateboarding.
Tony Hawks Pro skater was the reason I started skating, Muska was my favorite back then and I emulated him in every way possible, I always have been grateful for what Tony Hawk has done for skateboarding, it may not be what it is today if it wasn't for him so thank you Tony I appreciate everything you've done. You've changed my life and millions of others
I've always had a crush on Tony Hawk. He's so epic.
Tony hawk is a legend and will always be a legend.
that drawstring is annoying me.
same ugh
i flipped mine over my left shoulder too
lameeeee
you're missing the point.
Ashby Kueh if u reply to this i will be very happy
all the amazing things he does for the skateboard community and those who are not even part of it shows his true character. He doesn't need to explain himself to me or anyone, we've always appreciated and respected him for who he is.
The bird deserves a lot respect for the amazing skateboarder and even more for making the skate seed to grow and bloom
Tony got a park in our local home town which otherwise never would have been able to afford it !!!
I'm craving Bagel Bites now.
I've never had one, are they good?
This totally changed my opinion of Tony Hawk. Ive always considered him as a walmart skater and a sellout, but its only because i was ignorant to his state of mind
That’s a humble thing to say
Dude that takes a lot of courage to admit that. He is my favorite skater.
He’s got a few autobiography books. I’ve read two, one on his life and one on his business ventures. Really good books. Rodney Mullen has a auto biography book as well, which is pretty good. I forget the names of the tony hawk ones but the Rodney Mullen on is called “the mutt” or something
You must not have been old enough to have clear memories from the late 80s thru the 90s... this man WAS alternative sporting in America in the 90s. If you didn't like the big sports like football, basketball, baseball, etc.), you probably watched a good amount of skating, and this was the guy would be watching. Insanely skilled technician, balls of steel, almost unprecedent consistency of success in events, and the 2nd most important figure in skating after Mullen. This is the guy who made skateboarding a mainstream event - or at least mainstream enough to receive regular TV coverage. Back in Hawk's day, they broadcast skateboarding a lot more. Everyone wanted to watch Tony Hawk.
This guy is a living legend. Usually the term sellout would apply to someone who accepted money from parties with selfish interests AND let the money they took change them for the worse. So what if Hawk got paid and made a fortune for doing what he loves? I wish I could do that. And everyone else does too if we'd all be honest about it. He took big companies money, used to help skateboarding reach WAY more people than it ever had before. And through it all, the guy never changed in the slightest. He's still that same guy who, at his very core, just loves skating.
@@kalorakaloragreat write up. Had to show some love
Tony Hawk gave skateboarding new life! I probably wouldn't have had any interest in it if it wasn't for the pro skater series, one of my fondest memory as a kid was playing Pro Skater 4, on the college map, cruising around listening to the great music it's soundtrack had that i still listen to today. Tony was always cool af
Tony is pivotal. The Hawk is nothing but the man! Love you Tony from 🇵🇷 Thank you for coming here and delight us all with your incredible heart! You brought so many pros with you... we were literally star struck for ever since❤️❤️
If it wasn't for Tony Hawk, I wouldn't have heard of Chad Muska, without the Muska, I would've never learned to ollie. Had I not learned to ollie, I would definitely not be the same person I am today.
Cm901 pro model with stash pocket in tongue forever changed things
I would love to see Danny Way in this type of video.
無料魂 - here it is - ua-cam.com/video/bL4OPAdBzNM/v-deo.html
i dont want to like cause its at 69 and i hope ppl feel the same way
PS i liked it TROLOL
The Berrics
I heard Danny is a complete prick
I heard Danny is a complete prick
At least he didn't do a reality show.
And welcome back to tony on x ice
It's nice to see an articulate skater whose vocabulary and ability to express himself isn't bound by the words "cool", "awesome", "great" and "stoked".
Wish his intelligence and maturity caught on as well.
Man I wish this interview was around when I was a kid to show my parents and to keep me motivated to skate. Not skating for a decade to make others happy by playing team sports and doing what others wanted me to do is the biggest regret in my life
It’s not too late 💚
Skaters to go play games.
More like gamers to go skate!
So true
that's how it happened with me. but it was really rodney mullen in the games that got me to research him and go do his thing. now when kids ask me for a game of s.k.a.t.e. they get destroyed by my flatland.
You know you're doing something right when they have rules specific to you while rocking a game of skate, hahahaha.
Exactly ;)
TommioRS Thats what iwas thinking lol! Shout out to RS btw!
Rodney Mullen next pls
Jim West One step ahead of you, here it is - ua-cam.com/video/ZgEbxU5tZu4/v-deo.html
The Berrics sorry ;((
The Berrics tony is saying the same thing that rodney says in bones brigade documentary...rodney said "it became my voice.."
The Berrics Damn link this at the end of this video.
Tony still shredding :D
Tony’s foundation helped fund a big part of our local skatepark. We thought that our city would never fork out a dime for a public skatepark but after the grant they did it. I’ll always be indebted to Tony Hawk for that. We’ve had a pretty solid group of skaters come up over the years and the next generation pushes it and rips a little harder than the last and every one of those kids got their start at the public park.
Tony Hawk was always genuinely my favorite skater; not that he was the only skater I knew. I grew up watching koston, Rodriguez, Reynolds, Mullens, and a bunch more obscure skaters and he was still my favorite.
It's funny because pro skater got me into skating, not the other way around.
Captain Limabean it’s funny cause that’s what happened. Maybe tony didn’t have that in mind. But he’s so genuine and consistent. He’s still making games for skaters, not for gamers to become skaters. lol
okay yeah whatever, but HOW DID HE NOT MENTION BEING ON ROCKET POWER?!
hahahahaa I forgot he did
patbustatrick he did too ig
They need to make the lair skatepark from that episode somehow
Fuuuck yea, I gotta see that sode again, bruh! Shit was dope!!
That was amazing. Tony Hawk used to be my neighbor and he is a class act through and through
HorsepowerKings.com yeah my neighbor is Rodney Mullen
My neighbor was an orange that got a small loan of a million dollars
Dudes like Tony and Rodney are by far top level quality human beings. The way they think, the way they talk, the way they act. I don't think I really need to read a single selfmotivation book after listening a 20 mins interview with them.
I used to play Tony Hawk Pro Skater on GameBoy when I was 10....and when I started playing that game for a first time, I was blown away... Tony Hawk, you inspired me to start skateboarding...
When you figure out how to get paid for doing what you love then you never have to "work" another day in your life...
Incorrect. You still have to work extremely hard
Xavier Ferguson the point he’s making is that it doesn’t feel like “work” because you’re doing something you love for the rest of your life instead of slaving away and getting paid for doing something you hate.
Legend, pure legend.....
Just because you sign a sponsor doesn't automatically make you a sellout
Depends on whether it's skater owned or not.
@@therealwewin You're an idiot. Is Nyjah a sellout? Nike isn't skater owned
@@therealwewin your exactly the kind of people he talks about in the video 🤦♂️
@@RevoltPlays yeah he is actually lol
@@Robby7430 tony didn't save anything. Rodney mullen saved skateboarding. Tony used it to make money. End of story
I remember being in class one time and the teacher all asked us what jobs and our dreams what we want to pursue after we graduated high school, and I was the only student in there that had no plans to go to college or get a good job, and all that all I said I wanted to do was to skate. I said I want a job to support myself financially to where I can live a good life and not be in poverty or homeless, but I still get to skate every day because that is my dream. Life is about being happy, and enjoying yourself, and i dont want any money if it means i get to skate every day, and have fun.
So i said construction. I get to skate to my job and work all week, and skate on the weekends. Thats the dream.
High integrity, a man amongst boys, well done Tony.
"Tony Hawk's project 8" was what got me into skateboarding
Tony your video game American wasteland made my childhood and I'm 20 now.
A man can't make money without people saying he's a sellout? If somebody asked to pay you just to do what you love and have your name on something, you would refuse it?
This man became a big part of my childhood purely through his first couple of Playstation games!
I will always remember going to high school each day boasting about scores etc and asking how to find the hidden tapes etc (no internet back then for that kinda thing).
Nice to see a video interview and see he's a down to earth type guy!
I can't imagine being one of those people who don't like Tony Hawk. He's so cool and understanding while also advancing skateboarding so much. The 100+ tricks he created earned my respect and admiration. He donates so much through his charity and other fundraisers. Also, he doesn't talk about skating being some super deep and all about being different and who you are. He's just honest
no such thing as a sell out. I hate that term 'sell out' anyone gets success and that makes them a sellout? takes a pretty petty person to call another a sell out.
Ben Brown, a sellout is someone who will do anything for fame or fortune.
Tony didn’t sellout. I agree with you on that.
But there are plenty of sellouts in every industry. Not just because they’re successful but how they came into that level of success.
Disturbed never sold out. They’ve been topping the charts for 20 years.
Tupac sold out. He created an image he knew would sell and did it for a man he knew would buy it.
There are actors and athletes who will put their name on anything in order to make money regardless of the quality of the product or the ethics of the business.
That’s selling out.
But being rich and famous? I agree that that alone doesn’t make you a sellout.
@@dr.floridamanphd Is Taylor Swift a sellout?
Bad Cornflakes, she does most of her own writing which is rare for a pop star.
But everything she does is done through many filters to make her songs as radio friendly as possible to hit the largest audience.
Nothing about her success feels organic. She’s a pretty face with a decent voice, but beyond that she’s essentially the product of her label’s A&R department.
I’d say she’s a sellout.
Nah there is.
Tony never betrayed skateboarding by promoting companies like Mac Donald's. He promoted these big companies so that he could make more money and therefore live a better life. Tony made skateboarding popular.
It's McDonald's.
But I thought Tony said you don't need to be rich to "live the dream".
He made McDonald's more money. He didn't make skateboarding a cent lol
@@therealwewin he got to skate way more and people saw skating more ...
Where are his eyebrows? I'm so confused.
+ouncy lol there blonde and this is black and white
+ouncy dont you ask too many questions, maybe you should just move along
Kando Say no more, I smell a conspiracy. I'm scared.
+Alex Defatte Ye, and shadows has a play in that as well.
+ouncy They are the McDonalds arches now. AKA: The Golden Hawk Arches!
I still remember this computer in my kindergarten class for whatever reason had THPS4 installed on it. I never got to play it but it looked so cool. I later tracked the game down, which inevitably got me into gaming, skating, AND music. Like, damn! this defined my life!
Humility and Pride is palpable from this man. Talk about finding balance in life, This is the definition of a Mentor.