1937 Packard twelve 1508 custom invalid car, ASK THE MAN WHO OWNS ONE!
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Today, We are back at the Canton Classic Car museum in Canton Ohio to take a look at this custom Packard Series 1508 touring sedan Invalid car.
I just want to take a minute to apologize for the lack of B roll I have no idea what happened to it really cool new segment at the end when I’m doing the outro advertisements from 1937 I think I’m going to start doing that because there’s a lot of cool stuff that you see and it just kind of brings everything back to that time. Let me know your thoughts but I’m pretty sure you guys are gonna dig it =)
If you’re ever out in Canton and you’re tired of looking at cornfields go check out the Canton Classic Car museum. Located down town canton Ohio For more information such as ours and ticket pricing be sure to click the link below after the show

Have you seen her by the Chi Lites
Yeah buddy right out of the gate I’m gonna have to make it harder tomorrow.. Engine episode Wednesday is going to be epic with the very first Chevy overhead valve V8
Awesome !
@@What.its.like. 1918 or 1955 ??
Research about 1955 Chevy dealerships putting Bon Ami in the V-8s to seal the rings and stop it from smoking 😂
Old Used Cars salesman's Trick 😏🤢.....
Only driven to Church 😉😂✌️
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Good job John! I recognized it but couldn't put a name to it.
Big Packard fan here. This car is a beaut! Packard definitely was American automotive excellence. Sadly missed.
I’m a huge Packard fan.. I wish they would have merged with peerless and Pierce arrow they could’ve been the three peas under one roof.
I was just telling a good friend of mine that I get depressed every time I go to a car show because the car is that I like to see never go to regular car shows. I would very much like to change that. Maybe one day could put on my own show of 30s 40s 50s cars only.. who knows it’s really sad what they sell as luxury car now vs what true luxury is
Beginning with the debut of the Bentley Azure in 1999 I was struck by its presence and convinced that had Packard survived they’d be producing almost exactly the same cars that Bentley produces now and the later Malsanne and Flying Spur models further confirmed my feelings. Just change the top of the radiator shrouds and you have a modern Packard inside and out because their interior styles integrate as well.
I agree that had the situation been different many of the Duesenbergs' et al., would still be knocking them out of the park man. The history of Rolls-Royce as the master, with Bentley used as the junior placeholder has been a British tradition for close to a century now. Rolls-Royce built the gentlemens carriage with the option of using your coach builder of choice, whereas Bentley was always the more rakish racing car company, still built upon big money and large family fortunes. RR disdained racing as a pursuit unsuited to their customers, which they wished to cosset in comfort and grace at all times. We still need to remember that BMW is now running RR leaving them a freehand while supplying major parts such as W or V block engines, and the VW group owns Bentley, similarly providing the components for the racing fleet, such as it is. All Amazing vehicles in their own right.
Love it. I must go to Canton and see those cars.
It's always a treat when you review a Packard. Your admirarion and enthusiasm for the brand invariably brings a smile to my face. If they were still around, you'd be their best salesman. I guess you'll have to content yourself with being an ambassador for the classic car hobby in general. Great job, as usual. Keep up the good work. Toodaloo, buddy!
I’m a huge Packard fan and it truly breaks my heart that they’re not seeing this often as I probably should be.. The moment I get enough money I am either going to buy a 37 airflow or 37 Packard haven’t figured out which one yet and if you throw in a 35 Hupmobile that would be a really hard choice.. I think I’d pick the airflow over the Packard just because of how rare it is it’s totally different than anything else built at that time period
1941 Packard 110 coming tomorrow four-door sedan there are two more Packards in the pipeline at the moment
I’m going to try to go back to the Canton classic museum on Wednesday they have a super eight and a couple other cars that I wanna do I really want to do the Windsor from the moon company.. that’s a sweet car that nobody knows exist
Thank you so much glad you dig this episode.
What a stately and beautifully finished car ! No wonder the called them 'The Boss of the Road !'
Once again, nice review!
Whoever originally owned that car had to be LOADED.
Also wanted to say that more of those driver's seats are adjustable forward and back than you think... Adjustable driver's seats were pretty standard from about the mid 1930s on.
There are exceptions like the Packard Darrin that's sitting behind this one... There just wasn't enough room in them after the body was sectioned to put the seat tracks.
HAVE FUN AT HERSHEY... But MAKE SURE that you take some hip waders, a rain coat and a big a$$ umbrella along 😂
It wouldn't be Hershey if it didn't rain all three days and turn into a mud pit.
CHEERS!
Haha yeah I totally know what you mean it rains over on that side of the state a whole lot more than it does over here it seems like well to be honest I’ve been lucky this year most every time I go over there it’s been really nice but I know what you mean
Wow! What a beauty. Packard just excelled in styling. The custom built wheelchair is cool. In the 1930's, even 6-ft tall people were rare, so it might not have felt as cramped driving this car vs an average person 90 years later.
WYR -a- Pierce Arrow -b- Packard
I wanted to pull the chair out and show how it worked but was locked in there also the carpet was velcro to the floor it was interesting
These cars are so stunning. That grill is so iconic, there is no mistaking what it is. However, it needs a Pelican ( Cormorant ) ornament. I've never seen those "Socially" ads. Those really say everything about Packard in the 30's without even showing a single car. That's what I like about this channel, I can still learn about these cars even tho I'm an old Packard man. Druthers: Packard all the way, tho that Pierce Arrow is a temptation.
Great choices I totally agree this is the only Packard from This time period that I’ve ever saw that did not have a fancy hood ornament even though it was a super fancy car
It’s so wonderful that coach builders at the time were so forward thinking and focused so beautifully on customizing a beautiful accommodation like this. It was worthy of a President and probably led to the reason that Packard might have been selected for President FDR’s official limousine as his customization requirements would specify his being able to access the car and also be able to conceal his condition.
There is nothing like cars from the 30s I don’t know how to describe it like when you get in one of those cars it’s unbelievable that people drove those around because they are so nice everything has a quality feel to it and honestly I can’t wait to drive one because I’ve heard especially with Packards they are completely balanced very light steering. End it doesn’t have power steering it’s just balanced right
Wow 2.8 Tons! That thing was a beast! I saw a Kia crushed up under the fender! 😂
Yeah..
I was driving the other day and there was a guy road raging me when I was driving my 52 Chevy he kept slamming on brakes for no apparent reason. A part of me was like dude you realize that my truck is going to go through your Hyundai, to quote doc brown from back to the future my truck would cut through his car like it was tinfoil. ( 1952 Chevy 1 ton )
Absolutely magnificent car. Truly a work of art. Your video clearly explained why the Packard had understated elegance. The '37 Packard roadster was incredible too.
I love these I never saw one with a built in wheelchair
All Packard cars can be immediately recognized. Top of the grill features a large arch flanked by a smaller arch at either side. This design element is often mirrored elsewhere, such as the handle atop the radiator cap. But you don't see that cap as a hood ornament?
1: 1937 Packard 12 7-passenger Touring Sedan.
2: All 3.
I agree with what you said about those older cars being better than anything that's hot now. Parts may be harder to get, but you can always get the specs and have someone make them so you have them ready to put in should the need arise. If more people were into cars that old, mechanics would have to learn how to diagnose problems without a computer.
Great choices
It’s just sad is all I get so depressed when I go to car shows because the cars I want to see are never at the cars shows.. one day I want to change that. It only takes one person to have something different to be inspired
I am in love! Fantastic presentation as always. You are so right, the presence this car has is not available today. This car let’s everyone know you have arrived, long before you get there. WYR: 1937 Packard (because it’s always the Packard) and the Packard Roadster (although, the Franklin would be darn interesting). Of course you knew this one would blow my mind - so get the steam shovel out for the amount I’m digging this. Thank you again ~ Chuck
This was a cool car still more packards in the pipeline. Glad you dig this episode cool choices
Beautifull car , what a treat ! Well done Jay ❤
1937 Pierce-Arrow and the 1934 Franklin. Love the Western NY classics.
Sweet choices =)
This Packard would have to be one of the finest luxury cars of the decade, but I think I like the Lincoln seven seater and I will choose the Packard roadster. If I was filthy rich my car collection would be about a hundred with the majority of them American cars. Thanks Jay awesome production.
Me two I love the Packard twelve, any packard from 1934-1942 they didn’t make a bad car even the four doors are nice
This car has a 12 foot wheel base! Obviously a custom made private limousine. Driver was an employee, probably a copilot to help with the occupied wheelchair. Booster would be for a personal attendant.
Totally agree with "this is better than anything that is hot right now." That being said, I would still take a late 50's Imperial over this, but I don't mean to detract from this car, Packard definitely had it going on then. Wow, that's a deep glove box! Would love to know who the first owner of this one was, with that wheelchair mod. WYR: 1. gotta go with Pirece Arrow by a hair 2. Hate to admit it. even to myself, but the Caddy wins it for me. Excellent vid Justin!
Glad you dig this episode great choices =)
Both my choices would naturally be the Packard's.
Jay I really enjoyed this one. As you know I love Packard's and this one's a real beauty. Just love that grille.
I'm thinking the width difference in the interior is to allow more room in back for the wheel chair access. That dashboard is a thing of beauty. Not an idiot light to be seen. Very surprised to see no radio in a car as upscale as a Packard of that era was.
I totally agree I thought it was really weird not seeing a radio as well as a fancy hood ornament
The attention to detail in a Packard never fails to amaze . Recently read that the person that pulled next to the person owning a Cadillac knew they had the superior car in the Packard.
Can’t help but wonder what they would have been like during the personal luxury car period . Although I’ve always felt that the Darrin bodied Packards qualify as such .
If I ever owned a senior Packard such as this I would drive it and I would park it next to Bentleys and Rolls-Royce just to see which car gets more of a reaction..
@@What.its.like. in my opinion the only car that would get more attention is a Duesenberg. You must remember that America was far ahead of many foreign manufacturers during this period . We had air,automatic transmission , ps and so many other features while Rolls Royce and Bentley were still 6 cyc stick .
That would be an awesome comparison which gets more intention senior Packard or Duesenberg.. That would be a very interesting matchup
We were using all steel frames by the 1930s while Rols and Bentley were using wooden frames until 1954.
If anyone remembers the SU carburetors that were equipped in English cars until the 1970s their tiny bucket shape came from their original design which wasn’t metal but was a carburetor whose body was made from leather
Great vid!!!! 👍👍
The 37 Lincoln looks like a fun car! I would imagine the front area of the Packard is narrow because it was for the employed driver. If you owned one of these you didn't usually drive yourself.
37 Packard is definitely a car that I would really like to own one day either 37 38 39 honestly can’t go wrong with Packard made from 1934- 1942.. And believe me when I eventually get one I’ll drive it every day =)
I would really love to have a 115 C in four doors
It is an exceptional automobile, the rear space is a dream!🤩 The WYRs are real tough ones. I would say I'd go with the Packard, but definitely wouldn't mind the P.A., both though, I'd prefer a driver. The Lincoln does have a very cool and unique look that iis very appealing, but it would still be a second or third choice. The second scenario, I love the Caddy and the Packard , it would be a toss. Cool video!😎
I suspect Pierce had seen its best days by the time that model shown was made. Paradox,Studebaker was involved with the ownership of Pierce and later was involved as "Studebaker-Packard".
I doubt that the Lincoln V12s were in the same league as the Packards'
Wonderful car and what it's like presentation.
I've been away and am so glad to be back with the cars and you.
Liked the Mad Magazine page at the end too.
Such a mass of class.
Welcome back =) we have a few more packards coming soon
Stunning Packard
In a way I'm kinda glad to see their prices go down because I've always dreamed of having one
Yeah it’s a good and bad thing on the one hand in about ten years will be able to get just about any senior level Packard for cheap
Glad to see you did this car, my friend.
Yeah more packards coming =) gotta get back there and do some more real soon
@@What.its.like. Aye. I'll be there in a couple of days to film that 1916 Case.
=)
Packard all day
We rebuilt a Franklin..good car but not in southern climate.
Willy's and Franklin share some of the motor parts??? Strange how that works 🤔 enjoy and Happy Motoring 🤠✌️
Awesome I can’t wait to drive a Packard I have a couple open offers =) Gary at the Canton auto museum said the best thing about Packards are they’re totally balanced. The steering is very light he is more of a Lincoln guy but he said the Lincoln doesn’t drive anywhere near what a packard drives like, Lincoln very truck like
All of those cars are great, but I could never choose any but a Packard.
I totally agree Packard is definitely on top but that Lincoln zephyr was wow
Would have been interesting to see the operation of the wheelchair. There were companies that did these conversions for disabled owners. In some variants, they cut out the center pillar and the chair could mover forward, rotate, and then go down to the street on ramps. Good chance the museum has something on the original purchaser - would have been an interesting addition as well. Interesting that it was built without a radio. WYR #1 - I'll take the P-A if it's a 12. The Zephry wasn't (even near) the same league as the other two. #2 with a wistful nod to the Franklin 12 (they were never supercharged in the sense that we now understand it, that was a Franklin ad invention built around, essentially, a fan design), the Packard roadster!
The wheelchair was locked in the back somehow I started messing with it a little bit off camera and then realized the carpet was moving and then I found out the carpet with Velcro to the floor and there was metal underneath of it so that was weird I didn’t show it on camera The museum was closed that day and they let me come and I had free reign but they got a tour bus out of nowhere and Gary let them come through and they were coming through as I was shooting that so like you could see people in the one frame and I forgot to go back to show that, I went in the next room and Shot some other cars and came back to do the under the hood segment
Yeah the zephyr was definitely the lesser model it should’ve been a K Series but the zephyr just looks so fresh so Art Deco awesome choices by the way pierce arrow is with v12
Thank you so much for the information on the Franklin V12 that is the car that I really want to do before the end of the year I’ve been looking
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Yes please and thank you =)
That is one beautiful car ..the details of the design is amazing.. i love how the grille looks..which bring me to question the thermostatically control grille .Packard had then in 1937!! If not mistaken a premium brand kind of hype up their thermostatically control flaps in the grille. And this is in the 21st century..I may be wrong though.
They go back even further than that Duesenberg had them I would love to find somebody that has more information on them because I would totally love to show how that feature works.. A ton of companies offered them Chrysler imperial had them in the early 30s.. I’m not sure who started it but it became a Packard staple Packard actually offered no less than two different grill designs the thermostatically controlled grill was actually the cheaper of the two the other grill was way fancier but it didn’t open and close
Ah, surprise! Lincoln also did build an airflow model. Could you make a description of this car? It could be interesting, I think.
I love the airflow did one on desoto hoping to cover more =) from all years
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Thanks jay I hadn’t seen anything from you for a few days and was a little worried, anyway nothing but packards this time
There is a lot going on in the background aug has always been but month for me with this craft show we do it’s three weekends called shaker woods maybe I’ll do a live thing this weekend is the last weekend, pretty sure we aren’t doing it next year wood prices are through the roof building a bunch of cabinets to take is just not feasible. Plus aug is when most of the big shows are. Next year I want to go to the Auburn cord and Duesenberg shindig that they have in Auburn Indiana
For WYR, for the first scenario it would be a tossup between the Packard and the Lincoln. I pick the Packard Roadster for the second.
This is a nice car despite the steering wheel in the crotch, but that wheelchair must have a history. I never saw that before.
I have no idea who the car belong to but the next time I go to that museum I will definitely figure that out.. cool choices =)
As you were shooting the rear seat area, I kept wondering how difficult it would be to extract the wheelchair through the dogleg in the door opening.
I wanted to see if I could get the chair to move out of the spot cause I wanted to see how far it came up but it was locked into place somehow and I didn’t want to mess with it
@@What.its.like. I wouldn't want to mess with it either.
Cool 😀
Grand car. Nothing compares to a Packard. 1st pick the Lincoln Zephyr 7 passenger, 2nd the supercharged Franklin
Have you seen her the Chi Lites
1937 Cadillac sedan convertible with the spare tires on the running boards.
I love ❤️ the look out over the hood but I'm like you buddy when it comes to the steering wheel I wouldn't like that steering wheel rubbing me it would be awkward to drive like that. Good job with the video 📹 👏 Jay your the best.
Aside from the steering wheel being in crotch it wasn’t a bad driving position I really like the over the hood view
Other than Duesenberg or Pierce Arrow, Packard was a solid choice for the affluent in America at the time. Although Cadillac was slotted in the upscale market, it was still an underling compared to the hand-built Indy automakers at the time but would prove to be just as good. Funny that in 1937, a manufacturer as fine as Packard would have something as vulgar as color advertising. "Just ask the man who owns one" was the slogan.
Yeah I love packards =) not kidding when I make it I want a super eight or 12 but realistically if I wait 5 to 10 years I can get almost any of those senior packard I would want. Because the people that like those cars are moving on there isn’t going to be as much collector base does it’s going to drive the prices down. My favorite packard is 1934 aero coupe by LeBaron. But they only made 4 in 34 so that’s not going to happen I was sad I didn’t fit in the darrin =(
@@What.its.like. Yeah, folks talk about how huge cars were back in the day, but I think the people and the cars are bigger now.
Much like the RR of present day, the pin striping would have been hand painted, with no other option in existence at that time. That is some mighty fine detailed work, with the decision of where the stripes should be placed coming from the body design section I am guessing? And hey Jay, I am saying this to be helpful and not critical, but you need to get out a thesaurus to describe the features on these most magnificent of motor vehicles, and as works of art, they can't all simply be layers and lines, because then they all just become layers and lines, if you see my point? Some of the layers form from or into buttresses and the lines are often creases, gentle or otherwise. I really am trying to help you along in describing these pieces of total magic in our world. Read up on some architectural terms, and that will fortify you with some fine phrases which most aptly describe a design feature, and with far greater clarity than a line or a layer if you get me man? I have been following you for a long time man, and I want to see you move from success to success and I believe something along these lines may assist you in achieving just that Jay. Cool? I mean it Jay, I am offering some creative criticism, and with a way to deal with the matter as well. I have seen cantilevered structures and construction, and flying buttresses with drizzles of chrome or nickel plating opening into cascades as it descends. If you love it, and you do, you got to tell someone how much and what your loving eyes see. My best wishes go out to you Jay as always.
Thank you so much for the insight that is something that still needs work, note taking =) I will work on that
1st choice, the Lincoln Zephyr was an upper medium priced car and did not compete with Packard or Cadillac. The comparable Lincoln was the Model K.
Both choices, all three please.
Yeah I was on the fence of whether or not to include the model K zephyr looks way better to meet the model K looks kind of dated by that point it almost looks like Mercedes Benz Grill but you’re right the model K should’ve been there..
The Windsor, Ontario, Canada Packard plant stats are not included here
I love luxury cars and miss real luxury accommodations. Real limousines might become favorable again if electrification successfully overcomes real range concerns.
Totally agree I told my wife if we ever make it in this life we’re going to get a packard twin six from the second generation the first generation there Uber expensive.. they just have such class I would rather have one of these in a new Rolls-Royce the new cars just don’t do it for me
The entire vehicle layout seemed to be predicated by the distance between the headlights till the late 1940 I have often thought. The engine cavity would form a prow as if it was a ship and both front wheels became nothing more than outriggers to the body flow. Motor vehicles as we know them stayed within the the limitations of the horse dawn wagon for the longest time, in terms of layout, and certainly for reasons I have never quite understood. We could have gone straight from the horse-drawn wagon to the modern layout of a triangle without any intermediate steps and yet the world couldn't conceive of it till the 1950s at the very earliest. From the viewpoint of ergonomics and body layout, it was a limiting factor, which kept a lot of space locked away from use for no apparent reason it strikes me.
Old fashioned car design and shaping seem to me to have been influenced by tractor or even locomotive layout of the period.
Interesting 🤔
OOps, sorry I meant a rectangle and not a triangle. The triangle is what we had for decades.
The 37 Lincoln was certainly different to the Packard or Cadillac.
And the Mayfair did you call it in the 2nd scenario. An air cooled V12? Seriously? That’s a lot of engine to keep at operating temperature with just air
Franklin supercharged v12 is a car that would love to feature I’ve only seen on in person and that was at the Gilmore earlier this year
My guess is that it would have been much less reliable than the Packard engine. And/or would have had higher fuel consumption by running rich to dissipate some of the heat in a similar manner to how air cooled aviation radial engines had to go "full rich" at takeoff power.
Packard all the way I watched a utube of a Packard 12 and a Cadillac 16 drag race ovcorce the Packard won
I watched that two I would love to collaborate with them in the future
That was the worldsslowest drag race lol
The Packard and then the Franklin.
Sweet choices =)
Fine cars though Packards were, there's no escaping the fact that it's a 37 car with 34/35 styling, and that includes the narrowness of the front seat and the roof with the chicken wire insert. Had they gone with up to date styling, and made the Packard styling cues work in a body like, say, a Lincoln Zephyr, they'd have picked up new buyers, but may have lost some old ones. So who is to say what they should have done? But to my eyes, Packard styling never looked 'right' from 1937 until the end of production.
I can’t say the same I really like the Packards from 36-42 after that they lost their way.. there was a lot of Competition Art Deco period maybe my favorite time period
Caddy Roadster.
Ruined by the license plate. A necessity.
It wouldn’t surprise me if that car was made for F.D.R.
Yeah I wonder who it belong to
I think I remember that Eleanor R. had a liking for Buicks which she drove herself.
Have You Seen Her by The Chi-Lites
Yeah buddy you got it unfortunately somebody just beat you for title
Packard----Cadi.
Packard, and Cadillac
Sweet choices =)
1937 Packard 12, in both
Sweet choices
1937 Pierce Arrow but Packard is close.
Franklin
That franklin has to be rare most were 4 drs that’s a car I really want to cover this year
@@What.its.like. There is one in California and one in Arizona
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I’m gonna ask Gary who the car belongs to because it’s very interesting never seen anything like it before or since
Rather have the V12 Cadillac
Sweet =)
Could have had a V16 !
A Roosevelt car???
I’m not sure but the next time I go out there I will definitely ask who’s car that belong to