RadRover compared to the RipCurrent my eBike experience
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
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Great review thanks for the information. Very helpful
I have a 2019 Rad Rover and am in love with it. It came with plenty of improvements over the older Rads. For more body extension, the handlebars on all the Rads, can be rolled forward giving as much as four or five inches more extension (that takes a little work to loosen and roll all the attachments on the handlebars in the new position). The headlight on the 2019 is new and much brighter than the old light, and the 2019 Rad comes with a bright tail light that also has a stoplight feature when the brakes are applied. There are other big improvements on the 2019 Rad Rover. It's a great bike. I'm 82 and love this bike.
Very cool 😎. I've had mine over 3 years and I'm glad to see they made the improvements. I'm just curious if they made removing the rear tire easier when you get a flat.
@@smidgelife Nope, I have the same bike as David Miracle (2019 Rad Rover) and it's still screwed on tight. I'll be swapping out to the Origin8 Supercell tires in a week or two so I'll have fun tackling that tire removal...
Just got a Rad and like it but 85lbs too heavy for mountain bake trails and switchbacks. Fat tires make a HUGE amount of road noise and have found no benefits over regular mountain bike tire.
Hows the radrover ? I just ordered it
I gave it to a friend. It's still moving! 😃
I also have a 2016 radrover, and they did give me a red taillight, granted it was a pretty basic battery powered one, but they did give one.
Thank you for this comparison video. I'm trying to decide between these two and the Aventon Pace 500.
Rad and Juiced were both bikes that looked good for me, but I ended up choosing the Juiced (Crosscurrent S) model. Both deliver good value. I haven't missed the extra power from the 52V model and I saved a few bucks.
This was very helpful but I am still stuck in between the Radrover, Juiced, and Sonders xs. Which one would you think is the good long term investment? Thaks!
I like your style. We need more bike comparison videos out there!
Thanks for watching 😊
Those Vanhelga's look great on the Rover!
If the rover feels too short, you can do a couple easy and relatively cheap things.
Get a laid back seat post to shift you back an inch or so.
Get a longer stem to move the bars forward a bit.
A combo of both...
I love my Ripcurrent S. I only got the 13ah battery, but it's fine for my commute. I still only charge the battery once a week. It's not just practical, it's also a hell of a lot of fun to ride.
Nice video,very informative. Rip current comes in three frame sizes,which one did you tezt? Please comment on the front suspension of each bike and the shifting performance. Thanks
Thanks! I tried the Medium size frame. Suspension & shifting performance were a net neural between both bikes; both felt about the same. I guess that's why I mentally skipped over both topics :)
Thanks. Looking at the Juiced for 2019.
Hey boss did you get that juiced last year?and if you did..how was it?
Hi Dave I wanted to ask which bike you went with and how happy are you ?… thanks!
@@bernievassallo3336 So sorry. Living in Chile and can't afford the shipping for a bike here. Bought a Trek 5 instead. They are common, but expensive here. Thanks for the question.
This comparison helps greatly. You may have noticed the price difference has expanded to roughly $1000 for 2019. I suspect this is entirely due to the new 52v battery. Juiced also charges $1299 for a replacement battery. Insane in my view.
Thanks for this comparison, great review.
Yes, a lot has changed already 😬
Great summary! When I first found Rad Bikes I was convinced the RadCity was the ebike I was looking for.. until I found the Juiced CCS. You're right that there are a LOT of ebikes out there but Rad and Juiced really are two of the best options.
Thanks, and we agree 😎
Also the Ego bike, it lower quality, but pretty same. I have Ego fatbike Seagull, working very well, but motor not Bufung, and start make noise after 1000 miles. It makes 28 miles/hour.
@kilgttam you should check out the M2S fat tire bikes
I've been torn between the rad rover and the Juiced Rip Current for about a month now. This video has given me enough information to make my decision... Juiced Bikes here I come! Thanks so much for the video Smidge Life. Keep 'em coming! :)
Thanks! More to come 😊 for sure
Hi Michael did you get the ripcurrent if so how is it ?
Enjoyed this comparison, just did a review on my 2019 Rad Rovers so far loving them!
Yes they are great bikes...I have friends who have them. I ended up with the ecotric because of the price, and both my friends who have these say they should have bought the one I have lol.
photos.app.goo.gl/bPzbdDT52XCGWJNW7
Built it into a commuter, 1700 miles in no issues yet.
so you recommend your ecotric?
@@jamesjohnson1522 why do these bikes have to be so damn ugly?
Totally agree!
@@noahellazar1487 i haven't had any issues with it at all. This will be my second winter here in SD commuting everyday, I would recommend one to anyone. They are all good bikes though as far as I know. One of them may suit your needs depending on what your needs are. I am 4200 miles in on mine, and it still performs as it did the same day I first unpacked it and put it together.
I've got a 2016 Radrover. It came with a taillight. Also if you go into the setup screen on the Rad you can change it from 20mph (which is how the bike comes) to up to 25mph.
I have a very early version, but... very cool ;)
The Rad City model comes with fenders and a very nice rack. And the City also has brake lights standard...a very nice feature
They both look and sound good for a beginner bike with the 750w motors, but I would have to go with the one with the hydraulic breaks if I had it to do over again from scratch and didn't have to tools etc to DIY. I started out building my own 500w mid drive commuter bike with PAS only. It was great compared to having to pedal the whole way back and forth to work. Then I moved up to the 750w Bafang BBSO2 mid drive. I wound up with it on a beach cruiser bike for fun riding. Still one of my favorite bikes, and worked good for commuting at slow speeds. At the moment I ride a BBSHD every day and it keeps up in traffic. I'm working on a 3000w Cyclone mid drive for a safer commute. Less chance of getting rear ended at higher speeds! Too many close calls on the roads I travel to not make the change. All mid drive setups so far, but I don't have hills to climb, so the next project will be a Mxus 3000w rear DD hub. The Mxus is probably what I should of started out with but I was convinced that a mid drive was better because you could use the gears for better efficiency. Yeah, the only hills I have are coming home from the beach, so the Mxus makes better sense for the commuter bike. The reason I bore anyone with these details is that you should plan on upgrading to more powerful motor battery setup in the future. Especially if you're building a commuter bike!
Torque sensing is the way to to go. You wanna go faster or harder, just pedal a bit harder. So natural. Thanks for the review :)
100% 😄 thanks for watching
Thanks for the review!i'll go with the torque sensing,but can i swap the comfortable seat of rad to a juiced one?just a thought🙂
My Rad Rover (2018 model) comes with a battery operated LED taillight that is either steady or pulses. As far as displays go, the Rad Rover has a USB port to charge your phone. Also, my top speed is 25mph, not 20. This is a menu option on the display. 25mph is plenty fast. The brakes being non hydraulic stop me well. I'm 230lbs plus two aux bags I carry and a fully loaded Osprey Mule backpack. I will put auxiliary lighting on it but not because 300 lumens isnt bright (it gets the job done) I ride back trails and want to see deer from my peripheral that dart out in front of me at night. 1,100 miles so far. Also, Ben at Rad Bikes answers the phone with any questions. Best customer service so for me Rad Bikes all the way!
I had an issue with my speedometer not working on my radrover. Sent an email and a picture and they sent me an entire new motor with a new tube, tire, and disc brake so that I could just slap it on and get riding. Their customer service is amazing.
I had a question in my head about that speed limiter up to 20 MPH. And u have answered that is a limit from the hidden menu. U said u got up to 25mph wich is 40KMH here in Europe. Was that speed only with the throtle? or it was assisted? Thank u :)
@@Lc_Sebastian Sorry for the late reply; 25mph on flat with me on it (230lbs) no backpack or extra gear "throttle only" if I remember. I am usually loaded near the max weight limit so hitting top speed on flat ground would need some human power for sure to achieve and maintain those speeds, I do it often
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It's was an easy decision for me. The Rip Current also has a 9 speed cassette, the Rad only 7. Mine was also 52 volts. Thanks for the side by side. Nice comparison. Re-installing the battery can be a hassle sometimes. Great bikes.
Great video man. I haven't had the chance to ride a Juiced yet but I'm on the list for a CityScrambler. From your videos I purchased a RadRover last November and have put just over 1k miles on it. Only issues with it so far are brake pads needing replacement from bent disc rotors and the battery not lasting as long as when I first got it which is sort of expected. Definitely looking forward to the Scrambler, will be my first Class 3 and I love the look. Also pretty glad I got a 2017 edition before they were discontinued cause I seriously do not like the aesthetic changes of the 2018 Rovers lol.
Just snagged one of the last $999 City Scramblers myself. Can't wait for delivery. Hydraulic brakes are a must for anything with 750 watts and 4" tires. Ride on!
After watching more videos I couldn't help myself and cancelled the City for a Hyper. Need for speed is real. Grats on your purchase!
Helpful. Thanks!
Good Summary, however, the RadRover reviewed here is an older model. (2 years plus old)
Yes, gen1. However, I do call that out in the video. Thanks for watching 😁
🤔😎nice stuff...a little hybridity would be nice too....
Thanks for the video I have followed your postings going back a year and a half. They helped me identify what I was looking for in an e-bike. I was very close to getting the Rad Rover but decided on the M2S R750 All Terrain for many of the reasons you point out here. Hydraulic breaks, longer battery life, off road setting that allows for speeds up to 30 + MPH. Your videos were a great resource. Keep riding,!
Thanks Matt. Very coll stuff. Yes, I've seen good things from the M2S. Are you going to commute? Or just weekend stuff?
kobEVision Ride weekends evenings etc. I also bought the step through model for my wife so we take them to beach and ride trails where ever we can. Now instead of taking the car to go somewhere locally we ebike to movies dinner and even to the pub. 🍺 cheers
These are the two bikes i am debating. My main reason for considering juiced, i was set on the rad until a couple reviews and info i saw, is the torque sensor and the power. Also i have read the rad motor is not a true "750" watts really a 350 watt with overpowered battery or something? Im not an electrician but bottom line that they (rad) is artificially inflating the watt rating. Also, i know from the glion i use now that the "advertised speed" is not the actual speed so id rather err higher to allow for mfctr inflation and degeneration over time. However there seem to be a lot less issues with rad, better customization options, support, and etc and im wondering if you think the reliability and etc of the rad outweighsthe power of the juiced? I ll be commuting 5-10miles each way, have kids id like to take for rides if possible on weekends and live in fla close to most everything i need so i wony be going on long road trips or stretches. Any advice welcome!
I was very happy with the radrover for over 3 years. I never heard of the 350 w story... With the rat has a very strong engines so that doesn't sound accurate.
I think it really comes down to how much money you want to spend. the hydraulic brakes and torque-sensing are amazing fun but the radrover also works well as a commuter.
It would be great to see this review updated, it sounds like a fair amount of the cons you've listed have been resolved in the newer Rad offerings..more adjustable handlebars, fenders included by default, brake light included now. It's a great review, and it would be awesome to have your thoughts on the newer models from each company (comparing new/new).
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Of the the Rad Rover or the Rip Current which would you recommend for taller riders (6'6") as a starter bike for commuting.
Rip current. The radrover bike feels more compact. I'm 5 ft 8 in, so at your height for sure you'll want the longer stretch feeling of the rip current.
Plus with the torque-sensing it's a much better feel and you will get more exercise from bike like that.
Handlebar swaps are easy. Re: the higher headlight output. Greater output=greater input. You have a finite amount of battery. You can use it for lighting or you can use it for propulsion.
Nice review
How do you think the Pedego compares to these bikes?
If there's a mention of weight comparison or range comparison, I missed it. To me these are two of the most important metrics
Helpful. My first eBike ride was a RadRover. I was going to buy one, but got attracted to Juiced RipCurrent S.
Ended-up with the RipCurrent S. Love it !
Seriously considering the RCS or RR. Having both which do u recommend
RCS because of the torque sensing.
@@cdriz1 The RipCurrent has torque sensing, hydraulic breaks, and a much brigher headlight..plus an option for a larger battery in the RipCurrent S that takes the range well into 60 miles or further ! ! !
The pedal experience, with the torque sensing, feels natural, not odd like the cadence-sensor alone.
The RadRover is a nice bike, but for the same amount, you can get better technology.
Hello I am looking at the new 1000 watt ripcurrent and wanted to ask how you like your 750? Thanks!
Loved the 750. The 1000k should be amazing.
Great review. Thank you.
Could you compare the Cross Current to the Rip Current and talk about why the Cross Current is your favorite?
I'll follow up with my response 😀
If you're interested in either of these bikes, you owe it to yourself to check out the Bolton fat tire bike, the Blackbird I think is the name he gives it. Each release of the Bolton gets sold out in a day or two with a 2-month wait. I own a 24" Bolton that I purchased before most folks knew they existed. I have 2600 miles on it in less than a year. It's just a joy to ride. I don't commute to work with it, but do a 20-mile round trip to the gym 4 days a week. It has performed flawlessly, requiring nothing more than air in the tires. Based on my "commute," I'd say that I could get at least 50 miles on a charge. Bolton has a UA-cam channel and a website, so they're easy to find. In fact, I found Bolton through one of Kyle's UA-cam videos and was delighted to find out that his business is local. As a heads up for Rad fans, Kyle does a thriving business in Rad upgrades: motors, controllers, etc.
Very cool stuff I'll check it out. This is definitely a growing community. Thanks for watching and checking out my videos.
Great video. Thanks
gotta check-out the Greaser..I love mine :)
Cool, will do. This one? amzn.to/2oVeioG
Another great review!
Thanks for watching Tim!
I own a 2018 RadRover as well. A 2018 TO 2018 Comparison would give ebike ppl a more balanced look at info. Shocks, Headlight, Pedals, Tailight, etc all different. Thanks
Agreed it's just not easy to physically have both bikes readily available 😅 my attempt was to make it a fair comparison.
@@smidgelife i bought a All Terrain R500 on sale and i regret it i think it doesnt come with anything pictured the rack and fenders are sold separate and are expensive wish i went with another brand. Ill find out when i get it.
@@andrewilliams2139 let me know 🤔
@@smidgelife Put my bike together today ok damn they left out two bolts i needed to put the front wheel on but i got two from lowes pretty easy. Damn this thing is fast 30 mph with the limiter still on crap. The after market parts they sale are still too high but i needed fenders and the rack so i went ahead and bought them. 1200 dollar base for the bike and like 50 for fenders and 79 dollars for carry rack.
@@andrewilliams2139 yeah sometimes these companies can leave out some of the smaller items... annoying. I would contact them and let them know. Enjoy the ride sounds cool 😅
Curiuos about your batteries
You mentioned you had for two years , have you rebuilt cells?
How has the performance of batteries over time effected your commute?
Great video! 2 of my favorite bikes
And 2 of the most popular on reviews!
Thanks for watching! I've not yet rebuild cells. Performance of the batteries have gone down over time and it just gets slow and sluggish towards the end of the ride. Take care.
I was about to order a couple of Sondors until I saw your video comparing it to the Rads. You sold me on the Rads which the day before I was going to order went up in price due to the tariff increase. I then saw your Rad comparison to the Juiced. The Juiced seem really better for not much more. So tell me please what should my wife and I (mid sixties - no ebike experience) look at for weekend riding at the beach, on trails and getting fun exercise? Thanks. Fred
How tall are you both? The RadRover is 1 size fits all. Both the Rad and Juiced fat-tire bikes are very high profile. Personally, I'd go with the Juiced CrossCurrent (but add all terrain tires) so you could easily do off-road and on road. Let me know and I can help further.
Thanks much for replying. I really like you speaking style. You instill much confidence. That's a talent. Any other fat bikes you suggest? What do you think of the Ripcurrent S model?
I'm 5'8" and wife is 5'5.5"
Viewers should please also check out the CSC FT750-26 fat tire E-bike. For only $1,688.00 you get a top-quality aluminum frame, integral 48-volt battery, 750-watt drive (class-2), hydraulic brakes, etc. Here is a recent article on the CSC blog that details components and assembly: @t Headlight and taillight included, but fenders and rack are optional.
I want one . They are both well made it all depends on how much you want to spend . Great video 👍
Agreed
Hi Zachary did you get the ripcurrent? If so how is it
Excellent user review. Ive got an older 2017-18 radwagon with odds and ends after market parts as they fail. I absolutely hate propreitary nonsense on bikes, cars, computers...big ticket items. Not the same LCD anymore, because I no longer have the same controller, and Im hoping to replace the battery with LifePo type cells. BTW....They lie about bikes having 750W motors. My motor says 500W right on it...with a CONTROLLER that allows 750W...an altogther different engineering. For one thing, the wire gauge of the 3 phases coming from the motor is just about maxed at 750W. From my research, the Shengyai? motor is off the shelf 500W and they dont offer a beefier 750W variant.
Thanks for the info. Crazy huh!
I think the 2019 RipCurrent is worth the extra $ if you can swing it. 52V - torque sensor (huge difference in feel) and it's available in different frame sizes which is a big deal for me.
I have a 2018 RCS and its a great bike. I have ridden in snow, and heavy rain and absolutely no problem so far. Cross my finger. I have put in over 1000 miles since last December. Some people also forget that RCS comes with hydraulic brakes which is why is more expensive.
Hi did you get the ripcurrent? If so how do you like it?… thanks!
Just bought the voltbike YUKON 750 LIMITED online last night lol . Can not wait to ride it ..... very similar too both of these but it has a few more features these two do not have . I have a specialized mountain bike that I converted and I really have enjoy it . I put the studded tires on for the winter and man does it do the job well but the studs will wear fast if the roads are not iced up so now I will have another option hahaha the fat tires YES !
www.voltbike.ca/voltbike-yukon-750-limited-2018.html Congrats. However, is it just me or it does not have torque sensing? Humm... They talk about high-torque...but not seeing a sensor. Don't get me wrong, looks like a strong bike. But please detail and understand what TS does for you.
Do you have any information regarding how to convert a specialized mountain bike to a ebike?
I've seen kits on eBay and AliExpress. I haven't tried that yet. Sounds like it would be a fun project.
How about duel front disc brakes?
I have the the 2019 Rad Rover and by making a quick & easy change to the controller settings, I'm now getting 25mph no problem. I weigh 230lbs.
Sweet, you should share how you did that 😃🤠🙌
There are a bunch of UA-cam videos on it. Switch to kmh, so you get the overseas max speed standard.... 40kmh (almost 25mph)
Then you can reduce the wheel diameter size in the computer to cheat a few more mph out of the sensor. Your display readings will be off, but max speed should be increased. Use a GPS cell phone app (Strava or something...) if you need/want your speed displayed somewhere.
So Kobe, you talk about the RCS in past tense. Has it gone back to Juiced? Are you going to get a Scrambler to review? Thanks for all the great videos. You truly are the Bob Ross of ebike reviewers.
:( Yes, Juiced took it back to share with others. It's on to the next adventure. Juiced said the Scrambler is the next bike on radar for me, so until then I'm back to my RadRover. :) Stay tuned for other rides.
Question I noted. Now this video is about 2 years old now, but. You said your Rad was two years old. What about a Rad similar year model to the Juiced? Would be cool to see a 2020 comparison of their new models
True. However, my next ebike will not be a fat tire bike. I find them too massive for commuting. Before covid19 I was going to get into van life full-time...but now I'll need to reevaluate the situation.
@@smidgelife What about the smaller tire size? Like the 20s, or folding variant? I've been looking at those as an option as well
@@markknudsen1755 yes, I've not tried them yet, but they are a smaller profile.
Just stumbled on this comparison. Very helpful. I think the RadRover wins mainly because they offer a step thru you which my wife demands. I want us to buy both bikes from the same place so the Rad line is winning out. Of, a little cheaper too which helps.
Glad you liked it :) Enjoy! It's a strong bike.
Thank you so much.
How do you think someone who is 5 ft 11 fit on the medium frame?
I'd reach out to the manufacturer and check with them most of them have sizing charts.
I am in a food delivery for restaurants. I want to know how many miles I can ride per given day with single battery charge ? With either one of these bikes, do I have to carry a second battery with me to work ? Thanks.
It depends on many factors. Hilly environments, temperatures, what size battery you get, for sure I would get a second battery but that starts to get really expensive. With food deliveries at imagine you'd want to go as fast as you could... More stress on the motor... Which means more battery usage.
It's difficult to give you an exact number but when I was commuting Juiced bike I could get about 30+ miles all out.
Smidge Life , thanks for feedback. However, based on your experience, which one is a more reliable bike, Rad or juice ?
@@SunShine-yd5xu both are reliable, but Juiced goes faster...28 mph.
Smidge Life, with deep appreciation.
I have a couple of motorcycles aside from my cars & trucks. Im getting older need more cardio at the same time if I need assistance I can opt for electric help. This will be my first electric bike to consider buying. Thank you sir for sharing.
Thanks for watching glad I could help. Surprisingly it will help your cardio and you'll be able to go further more efficiently. Juice bikes has the best set up for cardio in my opinion. Just make sure it has torque sensing.
Look info BOLTON ebike too!
Is the Juiced 13ah?
A BIG deal that anyone should consider when deciding which ebike to buy is service after the sale. I have a Rad City, and I love love love the bike. At 700 miles, the rotation sensor self destructed. That means pedal assist goes away. I contacted customer support and they were very responsive and sent me out a replacement sensor right away. However, I am on my own as to installing it. They told me they could authorize up to $60 to hire a bike shop to do it. But therein lies the issue...I cannot find a local shop that will touch it. Rad has zero dealers. Rad has organized a mobile maintenance network, but it is only for a small number of cities, and Las Vegas is not one of those cities. I am many years past 'men of a certain age', and crawling around on the garage floor working on my bike is just no longer in the game plan.
What kind of tires are those, the grips look bigger?
it's the standard grips. Not sure if they have different ones now.
Smidge Life I was asking you what is the name of the tires and thanks for the response, I received my bike Monday!!
I have the Rad and paid 1500 shipped. I went to the Juiced Bike site and it was 2500....you need to update your info because it’s misleading.
If you’re saying that adding up the additional stuff that comes on the juiced brings it into a $300 price diff, I respectfully disagree. The rack was 79, it comes with a tail light now, fenders were 80...and who cares, (if you can’t tell the diff between using them) if the brakes are hydraulic.
The other important point is, with the USB accessory cord, you can program your RAD to go as fast as the motor and battery are capable of. I would imagine the 48v RAD may have a slight disadvantage to the 52v Juice battery but battery ratings are at the same time misleading because they’re fudged. When I pull my battery (48v) off the charger it checks out 52 v with my meter.
Just a fair shake comparison...
Thanks. Agreed. It's been some time since I have updated this video.
Thanks for your comprehensive video.
48v battery fully charged is 54.5v, a 52v battery fully charged is 58v
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We were about to buy a RadRover, but wanted to add a bigger battery, fenders, and rear rack. That put the RadRover at the same price point as the RipCurrent S! Purchased the RipCrurrent S and have not stopped smiling since. Front fork sucks, but will upgrade eventually, 70+ miles per charge...WOW!
Very cool! Yes, plus torque sensing 😀
I keep reading about electrical issues with Juice....does the RipCurrent S have upgraded electrical?
Hi Al I wanted to ask if you are still happy with your ripcurrent? I’m looking at the new version with the 1000 watt motor. Any info would be awesome
@@bernievassallo3336 Yes, so much so we just got a Step Through RCS for my Fiancée, Her long legs were an issue throwing over the rear rack with overnight packs were mounted. I figure a Step Trough was a lower cost option vs finding a new shorter legged woman ;) Great bikes and still zero issues and we used them now for 4 years! We just got that 1kw Step Through and it is a little more powerful. The 750w was more than adequate...but, what real man ever said "nah, I will take the lower power one"???
Looking into getting my first electric bike. Anybody know how the ariel rider class d stacks up? Im a bit heavy and the two wheel drive seems attractive for hills.
Perhaps a forklift, they're pretty-good on hills... 😉
Just ordered a Rad Rover Nov 21- 2019 good sale on now.
You'll love it 😃
@@smidgelife Thanks I wanted to wait for the 2020s but sale was just to good, Im sure i will love it.
@@smidgelife Thanks.
I think the new 2020 bike will be called the Rad Rhino. It will come in two motor sizes 250 wt and 750 wt. both bikes will be 18 inch. Right now these bikes are only used in Europe.
@@mark3010 I missed SALE, and wanted to WAIT for 2020. As of 12-20-2019 the RADRovers are 100% Sold Out! I watched them tick down the last 2 days, 60, 39, 20, 5, 3, NONE! They have gift cards at 10% off, so I plan to buy 16 of them for $1,440. Then if they have a sale I can use the GC's and get that 10% off in addition to anything they MAY offer. I am just SCARED to Commit to RAD. Read LOTS of LOVE Reviews, but have seen a Few Bad Ones and QC Issues. I bet I end up getting the GiftCards as the sale is only a little longer.
Hi. How old were your kids when they tried your bike? Mine is 10 and I was surprised she didnt want to hop on my Rad Mini. She loves my other one though. Gonna put a video up of that soon.
17 and 20 ;) but, only 5'1" and 5'2" ;)
@@smidgelife they're on the smaller side😁. My kid is about 4'10" so she was kinda scared. I watched a guy that recommended this for his wife who's 5'4". I'm 5'6" and it fits me well.
I just got my Radcity ST yesterday, assembled it, and took my maiden voyage last night. Frame feels a little small to me & I am used to a much brighter headlight. My biggest concern is that I'd like a set of dual baskets on the rear as I bought this as a grocery getter. I have two sets of baskets on hand but the cargo rack on the bike is unusually wide (more like it's meant for a person/child) so they don't fit. Do you know of any company that makes rear baskets that would fit on this bike?
I know there is a rad Facebook and Google Plus forum, you could post your question there and you might even find the answer there. I agree with you on the size of the rad the seat in the handlebars feel a little too compressed as far as what's comfortable. However you might be able to adjust the seat underneath will slide back to give you a little more space. And absolutely yes the light is almost worthless.
Take a look at the Wald folding baskets. That's what my wife and I use. They hold lots, and fold up when not in use. For my rack, the included hardware was fine. For my wife, the rack frame tubing was too large for the hardware so we zip tied them on. Works just as well either way.
@kobEVision: Right, I adjusted that seat back right away. BTW the best seat I've found is the schwinn "extra wide cruiser seat" because it has both steel springs and elastomer springs and cups your butt unlike these newfangled designs that don't even try to fit ones anatomy. And they're only like $25 at Target. Try one sometime. I wore out several more expensive gel seats prior to finding this particular seat & this one is not only designed better comfortwise but also more durable. Point is, I'll probably upgrade to that seat shortly, too.
My gut instinct is to install wide swept cruiser handlebars on it, too. But since there is so much stuff on the handlebars I'll try adjusting them a couple of times first. 20mph on this bike feels like 120mph. Kind of sketchy at times. Certainly more speed than I need for tooling around in inner city traffic.
OK, I found one google plus forum by Daniel Park and it only has like 5 posts. Am I missing something? (I don't do FB) Do you know the exact name of the group?
@Unclelllya: Yeah, I've looked at Wald before but not with this particular bike in mind. I have noticed a lot of the commuter bike folk prefer the folding one-sided ones on their downtown bikes and they look ideal for that. Do you know what their biggest one is called? Even them seem a little light/undersized especially compared to this bike & past hauling set ups I have had. And I prefer the dual basket design where they go across the back tire since the cargo rack would hold it up if it were to somehow fail. E Moped would describe this bike better as its beefy all the way down to the spokes. Makes me very glad I didn't try to go the electric wheel kit way.
What size is the rip current in the video?
I believe it was the large. I'm 5'8" and I found myself stretching forward a bit when compared to the rad Rover.
Good review, not a competition with a winner and a loser; just good info. Noticed the Juiced has a double chain guard; Rad is single.
Have been researching ebikes a couple of weeks now. Every day I discover a new "manufacturer " and new feature I need to learn more about. For example, how the hydraulic brakes are "like butter". Yeah, I'll pay more for that.
Right now, my search is favoring Rad, Bolton, and Ride1UP - which I just discovered today. I'd be buying 2 bikes so the reality of cost vs "butter" may catch up with me soon. EBR, great resource.
Thanks for the kind words Yes I had a lot of fun with that video and I think it turned out well. Friendly competition is a good way to build the community 🤠
Ebike world works the same as standard bike world but at higher costs. The better components the more you pay, The more powerful motor the more you pay, The bigger battery the more you pay etc.. And then there's hub vs mid prices and differences in how they operate. So it's a matter of what you can spend what you want and what suits your needs.
Yea, the ebike experience would be great for someone like me, I live in a small city/town where everything I need (work/food/fun) is all within a 10 mile range. Our car was stolen, and found by police completely dismantled. So I'm spending a lot on Lyft and Uber. My only thing is that all these bikes are over a grand and I just dont have that much money at one time to drop. If I ever did I'm sure that it would pay for itself in time. I just wish I could afford one, and its certainly not from lack of working, I just support a family and help take care of my mom, who is disabled.
Hello Johnny, wow...so sorry. I've been there back in 2008 during the housing crisis with a job loss too. Totally sucks. I'm testing a bike now that's $550 but does require new pedals at least. Stay strong and yes... An eBike will save you 💰. Also look for a used one too.
I ride my Stromer ST2 around Lake Washington which is 49 miles. I use 50% of my battery to do this.
That's a pretty aggressive bike... Do people give you looks?
They only look at me as I pass them. I pass every bike that I see. It's the same way that I ride my motorcycle. I can't help it.
The speed is addicting, but be careful 😀
Wish I had seen your video before I ordered my RAD Rover.
Ha! It's always that way huh ;) You'll still enjoy the Rad. Let me know.
So what do you think now? It's been 6 months, is it working for you? Do you really wish you had more power / hydraulic brakes?
Take a look at the Juiced Facebook Reviews and you will be glad you went with the Radrover ;) I almost bought Juiced but I had issues right off the bat just trying to order! also that Juiced is up to $2500 an $800 difference !!! This review almost got me on Juice but the Reviews, customer service and the WAIT Killed the Deal!
@@joevalone6490 I tried to buy a VanMoof. Reserved for $100 in November, paid $2,400 for it beginning January. Canceled order beginning March when I saw they had them in stores but not for customers who had already paid. Ordered Rad bike and had it 1.5 weeks. Looking back, I'm happier with my Rad City then I would have been with the VanMoof anyway. More versatile, less pretty.
If you're looking for a commuter you don't want to class 3 e-bike. You want a 79 or 49cc 4-stroke. You can Cruise between 25 and 35 mph on flat ground, low 40s down hill. And with a hundred and fifty miles to the gallon. No range anxiety what so ever. Just Carefree cruising.
Wow the scrambler was at $999 on sale! I missed out. Lol.
Finally smart men talk about money
Just wow
how fast are the rab rover bikes?
On the high end model do about 23 miles an hour. Average is 20 miles per hour. The 750 watt motors pretty peppy.
I have increased my speed on my RadRover by increasing the top speed and reducing the wheel size in the programming interface in speedometer. I believe I set the wheel size to 16” to get more revolutions
Thanks for the advice!!! I'll try it and let you know 😎
Cape eBikes what reading would that be. Palm reading
howtoebike.com/how-to-make-your-ebike-go-faster/
@@smidgelife A Crash Course On Wheel Size
Almost every display for an ebike will allow you to change the wheel size parameter.
This is to provide accurate readings for the speed you’re going.
Let’s quickly go over how wheel size affects speed.
For a given RPM (say 60RPM), a wheel that is larger will be going faster, than a smaller wheel.
So if we were to tell the ebike that our wheels are smaller than they actually are, it will think we’re travelling slower than we actually are
Excellent comparison review, it's not everyday a review shows both bikes side by side like that for a real tear down spec for spec. so nice job!
Have you tried any of the electric hunting bike models like Quietkat or Rambo? in mid 2018 a bunch of new high end models were released with mid drive and Ultra mid drive motors. Here is a collection of the better bikes builts specifically for offroad/hunting in mind ebikegeneration.com/collections/electric-hunting-bikes-1 the price obviously varies greatly among models. I'd love your opinion on those. Again, good job on the review!
I'll take a look...very cool! Let me see...
Anyone make a review on ebox motorcycles whatever needs to do a price comparison Money Talks
I wish my RadRover had regenerative braking though
I just wish radpowerbikes did more intuitive designs. It's a very conservative and strong bike, just not a lot of new technology. It is well balanced, functional, and a solid workhorse...but is that enough to stay relevant?
Depends on which one you get. I've got the RadCity coming in in a couple days and it has a direct drive rear motor that does the regen thing, but I'm not sure it'll matter that much on a bicycle. Unlike a car where there's tons of inertia and you regularly get lots of speed going, on a bicycle you don't that often need to dump speed over a long distance. Myself I'm just fine coasting down a hill at 30+ MPH. If you're interested reply and I'll have a practical response in a few days. Near as I can tell, regenerative braking is standard but only on non-geared hub motors. Geared motors have better pep for the low end (they're geared) but more parts to wear out (gears).
zugmeister314 it’s not the increased range because frankly it’s only about 1 extra for 20. I live on a steep hill around lots of hills with twists and turns and the brakes go fast. I’ll have to get a cheap pair of beater boots (flintstones braking) because adjusting the brakes often is a pain in the A$$
I would save about $400 in gas a year if I commute every day. Unrealistic in Pittsburgh because of weather...not really useful for commuting regularly for me. I intend to commute, but its more or less for fun. Saw a guy doing trails yesterday and it reminded me of my old RUPP minibike.
A co-worker of mine lives in the Chicago area and he bikes to work every day even in the snow it's unbelievable. But I'm with you on this one 😅
youre exciting me. Just ordered the Ripcurrent s
True and a car will last 20 years and be able to haul an entire family across the country, while ebikes are great and good for commuting, they can never replace cars.
you should compare the M2S R750 with this group
Guys guys guys... You're doing it all wrong.. Ride1UP 500 series, better bike, delivered for $999 - you're welcome *tips hat
ride1up.com
Ride 1UP M2S R750 has more power and a bigger battery
I have a 750 watt custom. It's not significantly different.
Ride 1UP jsut checked it out, your 500 series is still a very nice product
I was set to buy a Rad Rover, but now I'm thinking Juiced is the better value with all of the included extras and the fact that it's a class 3 bike.
True true. Depends on what you're looking for.
Hello LS I wanted to ask if you went with the ripcurrent and if so how is it? I’m looking at the new version with the 1000 watt motor…any info would be awesome
@@bernievassallo3336 So I did buy the Ripcurrent S Large 18” frame and I have to say it’s a very high quality bike, very sturdy, goes about 38 mph in race mode, the torque sensor is very forgiving and makes the bike much safer to ride than most e-bikes available.
My biggest problem and it’s the reason I’m currently trying to sell the bike already is that it’s too big for me. I’m 5’10” and getting on and off the bike is a real chore and unsafe when I have to come to a stop. If I had gotten the step-through version, it would’ve been perfect, but I didn’t really want that version. So I guess I could’ve gone with the 16” frame and it might’ve been a little better.
I even bought an extra battery so I’m able to travel about 40 miles at 30 mph before I need to recharge.
@@Inmate533 how much are you asking for the bike?
@@JCJeffrey I’m asking $2900 for the bike, extra battery, and the extras that are on the bike. (Cloud 9 seat, wire basket, phone holder). The extra battery is still brand new in the box, never used. (Normally $800). The bike has 127 miles on it. The frame is silver.
The rad actually has a 500W motor that they over voltage, not a bad thing, but truth in advertising.
Take a look at Perrys Power Bikes F2 @ 1899.
What the hell you're hijacking his video to advertise for yours? Lucky he didn't delete it, why don't you just do your own video? 🤔
GREAT REVIEW but so much has changed on both bikes in 2019
Agreed, I need to get new bikes 😁
@@smidgelife Just Pre-Ordered the 2020 RAD, shipping Feb 2020 they say. Has Dual Fenders Standard, New Halo Light, and something else. Basically similar, but the Fenders are nice as they were about $100 and they are already installed. I added the Rear Rack as an option and got the Black.
You sound precisely like Carson Ellis from Problem Solver Politics.
Love my rad just put road tires on it
we have one with road tires.. for less.
Which one do you like better?
This one www.juicedbikes.com/products/crosscurrentx
Hello… I wanted to ask which bike you went with and how is it? Thanks!!
If you leave the bike out in the rain without the battery on it doest it damage anything? also what is removable and are the items easy to remove and reinstall?
The batteries on both bikes are fairly protected. However, you're correct... best to keep them dry. Both are removable. I find that Juiced is easier than rad because it just pivots out from the side vs. Rad that you have to pull up and out from the frame. Juiced is also easier to install because of the previous statement.
RadRover or Super 73 S1?
They're such different bikes. Super 73 S1 is lower profile and has a huge cool factor in my opinion :) What is the main use?
@@smidgelife commuting basically...kinda tired of sitting in traffic and paying for parking. Looking for something that can get me 20+ miles round trip.
Is Rad Rover the only ones with a Huge advertising budget ?? They are everywhere You look for any E- Bike info. Every video is for the Rad Bike - ->. No chance to see the other 50 competitors bikes.
Rad was for sure one of the first "strong" ebike manufacturers in the market. The RadRover was a great bike. I do find there products "stale" and not very innovative. But, they are brutally strong bikes. My next ebike will be completely different... I'm working on it very soon. Stay tuned.
IF the price difference was $300 the Ripcurrent S is much better (larger battery, fenders, rack, brakes etc.), but that bike is now $2700! Too rich for my blood. Thank you for your review and I like that you've done 4000 miles on it.
Thanks for watching! Glad I could help.
You can get simular bikes for under $500 without the fat tires.
@@gsp49 Hey, the only under $500 ebike I've found is at 250Watts, but this is really due to the cost of the battery, the battery on a 750+ Watt bike is 500-600 :(
A bit of a skewed comparison, as there is very little comparable except for the 750 watt motors. My money has been on Juiced since 2018. My CCX has performed flawlessly and the battery capacity as well as the torque/cadence sensor module is generations ahead of Rad!
Meanwhile I'm on my Voltbike Yukon 750
If you're choosing between Rad and Juiced, I'd say the Juiced is more for people who not only want a great bike, but also who enjoy the hobby of bicycles and working on them. The computer gives stats that an enthusiast wants and the bike is more sensitive, so you will be doing maintenance and upgrading yourself. Better buy a Park Tool repair stand too, because you'll need it, and it's the only one that can hold it. The Rad, on the other hand is a great "get on and go" bike. Ride it in the rain and mud and don't wipe it off. It's a reliable die hard, but doesn't have quite the performance or technology of the RCS. The company is a little more solid with less fluff.
Hello! I wanted to ask if you have the ripcurrent and if so how is it?… thanks!
Why you didn't build your ebike by yourself? For that price you could easily build mid drive motor fat bike with better stats, and it's not rocket science.
True it's not rocket science. But it is computer science! The CPU is as important as the battery and motor. Tuning all 3 components together for long term reliablility is the science.
I actually had all the parts to rebuild my MTB with a mid drive 1k watt bafang motor in my Amazon cart. Problem is you'll need more than that if you're gonna do it seriously. You need new brake pads 'cause the OEM ones on your bike aren't gonna cut it. You need a hefty kickstand to hold that thing out of the dirt. You'll want to look into a suspension seatpost (I got a Thudbuster ST) to soak up those bumps you'll be hitting so much harder. If you're not crazy you need good lights. Once you get done with all the other stuff you'll need to add to your MTB to get the equivalent of a Rad or similar bike, you're close to the price point of just buying the bike outright. I ran across RAD and looked at their offering, dumped most of the stuff in my Amazon cart and ordered myself a RadCity. Actually saved a bit of money, which I used to buy more bike parts of course!
Has any body had this problem with their kindra tires After 6 months I had a flat .After taking the tire off. I saw there were 3 cracked spots on the inside of the tire? Basically they were Soft spot holes . Where the plastic liner cracked .Nothing punctured it. Rad rover doesn't warranty their tires, But they did Send me another tire. Because the tire was faulty ,It's gonna suck when I have to buy new tires because they're more Expensive then motorcycle tire!! And they're like inner tubes with knobs .Does anybody have an idea of a better tire to buy That won't Cost $150 4 a tire?
I loved my maxxis tires! Long lasting!
Juiced at $2500 is less attractive, but looks solid.
? what kind of mileage do the fat bike tires get, commuting? The 700c model looks good too.
$100 a tire fatties is moto territory
If one lives in a state like CA, the DMV says Class 2 is treated as a bicycle and bike paths through parks and sidewalks where bicycles are permitted, mopeds and Class 3 like the Rip Current are not permitted. Also, adults can't be ticketed if caught without a helmet on a Class 2, but can be ticketed if caught helmetless on a Class 3. I wanted the fastest that gave me freedom to go anywhere. Moped & Class 3 e-bikes can not be ridden across the park grass and on bike paths, but my class 2 is free to go anywhere a plane bicycle goes. FYI: Class 2 is not limited to 20 mph, just 20 with only the thumb throttle. If you can peddle faster when the motor quits assisting at 20, then that is legal. An officer does not know if your extra couple of mph are from you or your controller being turned up because you are peddling. One final note for Class 3 ebikes. CA law state that only Class 2 is permitted to have a thumb throttle, not Class 3 or it's illegal. Read CA e-bike law.
The Rip Current has a throttle making it a full moped by CA law, not a Class 3, 28 mph e-bike. So the RipCurrent is a moped in CA,
require it to have a license and the rider to have a Class 1 Motorcycle license.
California’s Electric Bike Laws
by el Cyclery. Posted on November 30, 2015
California’s new electric bicycle law divides electric bikes into three legally-defined category types based on the e-bike’s top speed and whether it has a throttle.
AB1096: Electric Bicycles
The law defines electric bicycles as those with fully operable pedals and an electric motor of less than 750 watts. It also creates three classes of electric bicycles based on their motor speed and level of electric assist.
• Class 1 e-bike, or low-speed pedal-assisted electric bicycle, is equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and that stops providing assistance when the bicycle reaches 20 mph.
• Class 2 e-bike, or low-speed throttle-assisted electric bicycle, is equipped with a motor that can exclusively propel the bicycle and that cannot provide assistance when the bike reaches 20 mph.
• Class 3 e-bike, or speed pedal-assisted electric bicycle, is equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and stops providing assistance when the bicycle reaches 28 mph. Operators of Class 3 e-bikes must be 16 or older and wear a helmet. Class 3 e-bikes are prohibited from paths, lanes and trails unless specifically authorized by a local ordinance.
The bill prohibits tampering with or modifying electric bicycles to change their speed capability unless the classification label also is changed.
E-bike operators do not need a driver’s license, registration or license plate to ride them, though they do need to abide by existing traffic laws.
See the full text of California Bill AB 1096
Many more reasons why California sucks
Radrover wins
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