I am back after a year, and I just got to say, please do not stop trying! I'll be coming back from time to time, I'm hoping you can share more videos, just to spread awareness and result from experiments etc
Thx for the heads up Hans! Ben Krasnow (aka AppliedScience on youtube) has the required vacuum and evaporative deposition equipment required to replicate this, as well as the test gear to measure nanoAmps.
Please don’t stop what you’re doing and thank you 🙏 for sharing this video. Question everything and accept all results even the ones we didn’t expect. Everyone should make up their own minds up with critical thinking. 🧐 many thanks.
Arthur Eddington rejected the Bazouky -Zhaboutinsky (BZ) article on oscillatory chemical reactions based on violation of the second law. This type of reaction is currently a corner stone in the field of non linear chemical reactions. In addition: The experimental results of Dan Shechtman on quasi-crystals were totally rejected by Pauling. He said that there only quasi scientidts nan believe in quasicrystals. Dan Shechtman received his Nobel prize some 10 years ago for his work on quasi crystals. He had the courage to violate a mote fundamental theory than the second law - basic geometry on possible symmetries. I was always fascinated by the Casimir effect and its relation to the result 1+2+3+.... = -1/12 nicely explained by Casimir .Your experimental work is a real masterpiece.
You need to show this to Dr. Steven Greer. He is working to make such devices available to the public. He has great moment and foundation behind him. Pls upvote, Dr. Greer should see this ASAP
Ha ha. What are the chances, (seriously, do the mathematical propabilities) that we are the only ones in existance in all of the planets, moons, solar systems, galaxies, universes, multiverses, quasars, etc etc etc.and that none are older than 6000 years? Wake up.
Well done. You are asking the right questions. In my career, the most exciting events were those unexpected results and what my boss liked to describe as happy accidents. Take the good luck when it falls in your lap. Don't ignore the unexpected results! Don't throw anything away until you have given it a thorough look first.
Look at it this way: Electrically resistive heating has an energy used to heating ratio of 1:1. Heat pumps, however, have ratios upwards of 1:3.5. "Oh my goodness! Are we violating the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?" No. We're simply operating two separate systems -- evaporation and condensation -- at two distinctly disparate points in a medium's phase diagram. I suspect unlocking zero-point energy would require a similar approach, where we're pulling energy at one quantum potential while returning it at another. As with heat-pumps, it will require energy to do this, but it will require considerably less energy than the energy we get out. Not to worry, as with heat pumps, that flip side of the equation is that one area of the electrophysical process gets warm, or positively charged, while another area gets cold, or negatively charge. As with solar, which inputs energy into the system via energetic photons, ZPE must have a potential which can be tapped in order for this to work. If not, well...
Evidence based science is how many discoveries have been made over the years. Run a kick starter project to build a prototype, even if it turns out to be something other than what you expect, the idea seems worth exploring.
What amazing, groundbreaking, and thorough research you and your team have done! It boggles my mind (but at the same time, I'm not surprised) that this hasn't reached a broader audience. I feel lucky that I stumbled on your video and would like to figure out the best way to share this knowledge in such a way that it will reach the right people who can create (and potentially mass produce) a practical consumer product based on this technology. I feel like with most of these things, there is a tipping point when there is enough attention that it explodes. But it's never a good idea to let something like this, which has a tremendous potential to do so much good in the world, fall to the wayside.
Thanks for covering the problems with publishing at the end of the talk. As experience has shown us - experimentation and observation outweighs any theory. This paper is giving the community a result that obviously needs more looking at - especially due to the implications. Remember, Kelvin didn't think heavier-than-air flight was possible (and he even said this again AFTER it was already proven). Your quote near the end I am guessing was paraphrasing Heaviside when he talked about using his Operator Calculus: "Just because I don't know how my body digests food, doesn't mean I shouldn't eat breakfast". Keep it up. Get this information out there more. Somehow getting this effect to show up for the home-shop experimenters is what's needed - something that doesn't require such things plasma deposition or photolithography to create would be helpful.
That is a very compelling explanation of the principle of the ZPE generator. As an engineer, I am intrigued. Thank you very much for the presentation. "If they spit at you behind your back, it means you're ahead of them" -Confucius
You're right that that the metal-insulator-metal device is a skinny Casimir cavity, and so there are two cavities in tandem. We have some ideas about how that affects things, but getting a good theorist involved at some point would be helpful.
The second law of thermodynamics states: " It only applies to closed systems ". Taping energy from the quantum vacuum has nothing to do with this law, since all of nature, and the illusion of solid matter state have to be constantly filled up by the closest "reality projectors " , our Sun and the Earth. Otherwise, matter would cease to exist and that's the reason why anything in existence is in an open loop with its environment, and closed loop systems are only theoretical, and at the macro scale. Not the quantum state. I don't know why so many researchers and scientists fail to mention this and or are afraid of the second law boogie man.
Sir, your efforts echo a much larger quandary now challenging the scientific community collectively: via dynamic media, i.e. Rogan, etc. Some of the critiques - as baseless they may be - shed a stirring light upon the factions you are encountering amongst the guarded "elite" body politic. I think your analysis and proofs far exceed the blessing to dig deeper. Well done and keep up the good fight to damn-the- torpedoes.
The main reason is that those are materials we had been working on for other projects. Other materials will work, and there needs to be a deep dive in alternatives.
A question for you professor, is the ZPE temperature dependent? Could the energy that has been extracted be routed through a Seebeck device or even a Thompson Effect unit, to derive lower temps without external inputs? Could this temperature difference aid in more energy being extracted. Could a TEG of Sodium Cobaltate (NaCo2O4) be used in a cooling effort, this type of TEG works at extreme temps upwards of 1100 K, could it be reversed to create temperatures lower than 273 K to aid in more energy extraction and hence a create a reversed thermal run away?
Thank you for explaining this properly!!! I have searched and searched and everything else I find is explaining it in way a magician would talk about their best trick… all theory! You actually showed the how and why scientifically! THANK YOU!
You're a legend! Confirm you are not suicidal... this technology is dangerous to the status quo and people promoting it have a history of being suppressed, paid-off, being setup/entrapped/blackmailed, painted as crazy and committing 'suicide'.... but this technology is necessary. I hope you succeed in commercializing it! Don't underestimate the obstacles, but I hope you don't give up!
well now they have these neat things called ‘direct energy weapons’ so…they can get us anywhere now. fkn scary world we live in. ☠️i am not going to off myself.☠️
Did you look for Triboelectricity, or for electrolytic electricity for the source of this device? I mean the electrodes are dissimilar. Dose it also work with similar metals? We have to be sure that it is undisprovable. Can it be made with household items?
I think the electrodes can be made from different metals, but you definitely can't do this with household items, because of the tunnel diode, which has to be in the nanometer range. This can only be produced via nanofabrication/lithography. But you're right, that there are many other options (different explanations) left untested, even though the evidence seems in favor of vacuum fluctuations. We just have to wait for independent replication and more tests on these devices.
@@light8258 you are right but schottky diode for example can be easily made at home with copper two oxide (the black cupper oxide) by heating and oxidizing it in a flame Robert Murry Smith showed in his channel a novel approach of hoy to build a metal/metal oxide/metal junction. i really want this to reproduce it at home to independently confirm or dismiss it. I really want this to be real because it sounds so simple and ingenious at the same time. Next step should be to build it with similar metals to exclude to build a solid electrolyte battery if it really works as described then it should be independent from metal combination.
This work reminds me of the 'Cold Fusion' debate which again was about deriving useful energy but the problem (as I remember it) was that no one else could reproduce it. At around the 30 minute point in the talk, much is said about 'Ubiquitous Power' for lighting, electric vehicles, desalination etc etc. Could we just start with a demonstration of Zero Point Energy powering a simple torch (flashlight) - to me that would be impressive. I don't wish to come across as sounding negative, but if this subject is to be more than just an obscure scientific curiosity, then producing a simple electrical device would seem to be the way forward; that said I wish you all the best in your endeavours.
I desribed how to create a pseudozpe device that harvests energy from the CMB Try and put your device in a magnetic field at a 45 degree angle to the resonant cavity. It will help with charge separation if you made a true ZPE device.
This needs more views. Gonna try and help spread this more, but I am no big fish :c Edit: In general. I just want to know why no one is talking about this. I have read the submitted article and gone through every piece. There are definitely questions to be had and plenty of room for peer review, but WHY is no one talking about this??? Why is the scientific community just blatantly ignoring something like this? Is it too good to be true? Most likely, yeah. But the implications in of themselves could be monumental. This needs to be further investigated.
It appears to me that investors aren't especially keen to allow a technology to develop that could limit their control of a top down supply chain. Ie: exotic middle eastern ancient plant material, refined and chemically seperated super rare radioactive elements, or it's synthetic isotopes. Catch me? I'm with the 99.9% of the world that believe use of super rare rather (actual, artificial or otherwise dubious) hard to get materials. Difficult to make/ solar panels with their cobalt, cadmium, lithium batteries for energy storage etc, for means of a new revolutionary energy production to change humanity are definitely not the correct path humanity should pursue. What I mean by that is it doesn't benefit future generations to govern and limit and monitor an artificial commodity.... and sets a terrible precedent for future generations how to now behave towards fellow humans. We're at a time where we have been living and affected by this system and we've steadily seen the world crumbling from greed and guilt and it's not too late to do something but we must work together and overcome this divisive greed we we're taught and become humanitarians, activists for a symbiotic relationship between humanity and Earths ecosystem. If the technology exists and is quashed and quelled by corporations that wish to maintain dominance, then we've failed. If we fall into a box of pragmatic dogma that robs us of our joy for exploration as it has some of our peers, we have failed. I haven't fallen into a pragmatic box on things only made true by consensus and I hope that I never will.
At this point the fabrication requires a highly specialized lab. All the procedures are described in our published articles. I don't see why it could not ultimately be produced with much lower tech once it's been worked on sufficiently.
You are fighting a battle against oil giants, government agencies, entire troll farms dedicated to discrediting you, decades of stigma, and essentially the entire monetary system. When Einstein said it 'will never be overthrown,' I believe he foresaw challenges like these. Publishing this is a crucial first step in the right direction, and humanity owes you gratitude for it.
Unfortunately, until we or someone else figures out how to do this much more simply, you need a very specialized lab to do this. Some of the layers need to have a precise thickness within a few interatomic distances, the purity of the layers is critical, and the dimensions for each cell is about 1/millionth of a meter. I have confidence that this can be done in a more low-tech way, but it'll take a major investment of time and resources to get there.
Material effects like long-term memory and all kinds of things are one of those places already recognized in thermodynamics itself as violating the second law of thermodynamics. If you read the book “Modern Thermodynamics: From Heat Engines to Dissipative Structures 1st Edition” written by Dilip Kondepudi & Ilya Prigogine that deals with non-equilibrium systems you will find that that's one of the areas that is known by the thermodynamicists themselves to violate that second law so we don't have to prove that we’re violating it permissibly it's already been done by a nobel prize winner.
everywhere you look in the alternative energy devices you see vibratorial simulations with energy effects . Like the Faraday wheel , the points where it taps the wheel is great location to vibrate the wheel at a hi frequency . you cannot see or feel high frequency . Try feeling a magnet vibrate in your hand next to a electromagnet running at high frequency ;)
I greatly appreciate your efforts! You and your team add true legitimacy to a technology that heretofore has often been seen as quackery... I await the commercialization of your device with great enthusiasm!
is there any notable updates on this? aside from fabrication hardships? how far have you managed to push the observable effect? any further discovery`s? how does the setup behaves in different temperatures? the idea is highly interesting, has any other lab managed to replicate or continue the study?
This more simple, lecture style video has been much easier to follow and understand than other UA-cam videos on the same subject. Saying much of the same things, but you better explain it
The result might be explained by the reception of TEM radio waves (which is also in the micro Watt range), but that explanation can easily be disproved by placing Dr. Moddel's device in a Faraday cage, and measure its current. Do we understand the physical nature of 'ZPE' fields? Is it a spectrum of TEM waves, or is it a spectrum of an unknown type of vacuum waves? Can we lower the frequency of such waves in a ZPE harvesting device, such that we can make use of its energy without violating the second law of thermodynamics? I think ZPE harvesting can be done, I agree with Garret Moddel. A century ago Thomas Henry Moray wasn't granted a patent for his 1 KiloWatt (plus) 'free energy' device, because he could not explain its operation and the measured electric output power. Moray's device could be explained by taking into consideration Fowler Nordheim tunnelling by 'cold emission' electrons and a nearby 'Casimir cavity'. The mainstream physics community acts too much as a religious cult, defending fallacies and circular reasoning, rejecting new data that disagrees with its believes. It is time the funding of science will be done as it was done centuries ago, by private investors. Big science funded by big governments is dead! Blessed is our divine curiosity.
They already tested for electromagnetic radiation. They used a mu-metal box and an aluminium box as Faraday cages to shield low-frequency and high-frequency radiation respectively. If it was a radiation effect, you would either assume, it is caused by a higher or a lower frequency, but both times, the current-voltage curve was nearly the same. That means external radiation had most likely little to no effect on the experiment.
This doesn't violate the 2nd law, since the temperature is not uniform. It has very tiny waves that are like uniform energy, which are in fact non uniform transfers of energy. It's just no one expected to be able to harvest these by blocking out larger frequencies. Based on the scale, these are on the range of X rays to higher intensity ultraviolet light, something that should be blocked by our atmosphere, unlikely to occur in the magnitude expected, let alone harvest. Have you considered that this casimir effect is being used to block out all wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation except for X-Ray to UV rays, thus harvesting everything from UV to Radio?
As a physicist and engineer it's clear that if you don't follow the current paradigm you are ignored both recognition and funding and if there is any recognition it's negative because you are a threat to the paradigm and their only recourse is to attach the person and not the work.. So you are definitely going to have an uphill battle. But I hope you hang in there and continue your work. This is the future.
This is why Dr. Greer is pushing for Open Sourcing this work. Once the secret is known to the general people on the net, the dark government cannot keep the cat in the bag any more. The solution becomes easily solved by others and we can leave the internal combustion engines (ICE), the fossil fuel is no longer needed and the status quo is no longer supportable as the lies become common knowledge.
Nikola Tesla said there is a “insulating fluid” that keeps all radiant matter separated. That insulating fluid can be broken down in one of two ways; 1) a large potential of voltage and current pushed made into a longitudinal wave. That would be akin to the turning on and off the large dynamos of Edison. Those excess voltages produced back then killed quite a few workers. 2) find the resonant frequency of the insulating fluid and run the smallest spark possible(the least energy practicable to create a spark) in one direction and through a flat coil at that frequency. Tesla said the frequency associated with electrostatic energy was @ 1 million per second. After Tesla used n oscillator that almost took down a city block in New York with less than .0001 the weight of the block in New York, he realized the second of those two possibilities advantageous. One could leverage tiny energies to unlock massive potentials through resonance.
You need a few pieces to make one. First an antenna element resonator tuned to the CMB. The second is that this element must be extremely thin so it generates a field known as surface plasmonic resonance, but in the microwave. Third the antenna array must be deposited on a field phase separation material called a topological superconductor such as graphene. Finally the assembly must be put in a strong magnetic field that encorages charge field separation. Stack these elements like pancakes to generate more voltage, make with more more surface area and you get more current. The magnetic field across the device must be as strong as possible and assymetric. It works by tunneling and charge diffusion as a very specialized rectifier diode. The ideal metal for the excitation element is a highly conductive noble metal, either gold or rhodium. It must not form a chemical compound with the carbon. A work around is to coat the graphene with a thin layer of a stable insulator.
Legal enforcement of a physical law! That is a true gem! Now, isn't the second law of thermodynamics a "classical" law? It's a description/prediction of a stochastic process taking place between molecules in a classical manner, isn't it? I'm convinced material science is perhaps the most significant, and optical resonant cavities are going to be an increasingly important... I'm thinking of returning to school in the sciences and you've inspired me to examine materials science. Thank you! OH! I meant to ask, the second law - is there a clear theoretical basis or is it something that is regularly observed and the popular hypotheses just feel right sorta thing? It brings to mind the Einstein/Bohrs debates, which brings further to mind Einstein's derogatory term, "spooky action at a distance," which is now the foundation of some very important advances in applied physics.
The second law has been proven theoretically for some idealized conditions, but there isn't a general proof that covers all possible initial conditions. I believe that the main reason the physics community adheres to it so faithfully is that there are no generally acknowledged violations of the second law. That doesn't mean there haven't been violations presented in the scientific literature; it just means that they're not generally accepted. For that to happen, we need to have lots of replications of our work, and a scaling up -- which we're working on. There is another issue, and that is that it's human nature to believe that you there's no free lunch. Violating the second law may be viewed as having that. Please note that I do believe that we're violating conservation of energy (the first law of thermodynamics). For our system to obtain energy, I believe it has to extract it from somewhere -- also to be elucidated in the future
@@moddel I disagree that it is human nature to believe that there is no such thing as a free lunch. I believe that the reason that so many people believe that, right now, is because it is a popular idea in this capitalist-domainated society that we currently live in. I believe that most people, throughout history, did not have a strong belief, one way or the other, on whether or not there is such a thing as a "free lunch." (I mean, if such people even though about the subject, at all.)
I really enjoy seeing a more forward thinking approach to zeropoint energy thats also grounded. Yet it in regards to the email you show here in the beginning; the elephant in the room I dont see any physicists trying to adresss is why must we presume background feilds are in equilibrium? What strong evidence do we truly have for unifrom backround radiation truly being isotropic, and of that evidence what time and size scales was the collected over Can we not say that due to reversibility; the appearance of homogeneity cannot be an artifact of out of equilibrium systems renormalizing to the paramaters under which we have probed them? Is our definition of uniformity a pejorative description that is a product what we simply measure and omit from said measurments? Even CMB when looked at from the largest models we can generate; by no means is truely uniformly distributed. Would love to see if your current work could be utilized to potentially seek unbaised answers to these questions.
@@Tony770jr From what we've seen so far, it appears to be independent of temperature. I'm hedging, though, because we need more replications before we can be sure.
Gravitational waves are way too weak of an effect. The coupling constant of the electromagnetic force is 10^36 times higher than that of gravity. So at these atomic scales, there's no chance, gravity could produce such a large effect (even if the numbers might seem tiny).
@light8258 would EM be responsible? I feel like gravitational force, and strong force could also contribute to pairs of mater/antimatter particles existing for a small amount of time. I'll argue better after I take physical chemistry 2 next semester.
@@trixinreno419 Electromagnetism is most definitely the force to look at in this experiment. Gravity can contribute to virtual particle creation, but the gravitational force has to be very large. You'd have to be at the event horizon of a black hole or accelerating even faster than the best particle colliders can achieve to create asymmetric particle creation. And the strong force is probably too short-ranged to able to influence electrons. Still, the strong force is a more likely influence on this device than gravity, so it might be interesting to investigate that hypothesis, but I wouldn't expect it to be a significant contributing effect.
@light8258 I was thinking about some of the extreme situations like... the millions of neutrinos passing through us every second that are still experiencing strong force interactions and could possibly interact on some level when passing through other subatomic particles. Or the fact that there are pulsars sweeping beams of polarized particles at near light speed all over the universe, many of them pointing relatively close, E=MC² and M=E/C² and at that speed they pack a lot of energy, does the field care what form the equation is in for the creation of quarks or antiparticle pairs? All it takes are a few stray gluons to provide "atomic" level energy.
Good idea! It was already tested, if the temperature had any effect on the devices and it doesn't seem to have a significant effect. But I do think, since it's impossible to create energy from nothing, that somehow the environment around the device should cool down, if the device uses surrounding energy and converts it into electricity, which could be tested for.
0:00 Guys from Polish University developed something simmilar last year or so, simmilarly looking but they claimed efficiency to be 2kW/m2 (i would rather say m3 - multiple layers) and nobody was publishing any new news ever since then.. you got my attention Maxwel's Daemon precisely shows what you have said in ifst minute 1:00 and other name for that is simply heat pump. Get energy out of cold by simply pumping heat from one end to another. Making one place colder other hotter without actually changing averange energy of these two places. So simple.. technically car engine connected to heat pump is able to burns oil with 150% efficiency. The only problem is it's mechanical device, its not cost effective
From everything I understand about the physics of this and the 2nd Law. While there is the cassimir effect, you can't harness any of this energy because ir would always take more to unlock it. You'll still butt up against the 2nd law any time you try and get something for nothing. Maxwell's demon suggests this as well - just by knowing information about where particles are in space, you could separate hotter and colder (higher/lower energy atoms) by opening and closing a gate, and gain energy by creating an energy gradient for nothing. Even if it used less energy to do this than create the gradient - then you run into the fact that information itself requires energy - the mathematics can be worked out to come out as an equilibrium, which is essentially, if you start the process, it would run forever - but the problem then comes down to information storage, the erasure of the information that's inevitably required pushes you back to losing energy. You can't store the particle information forever in the system, you have to start removing it at some point. That's it. Game over. But you'd never even get close to constructing such a perfect system in the first place. It's only mathematically possible - then it still doesn't work, you come up against quantum physics laws about information.
This is different from attempting to extract energy from ambient thermal energy, which is what Maxwell's demon attempts to do. Instead, it appears that we're extracting it from zero-point energy fluctuations, which don't have the same relationship with the 2nd law. I address this more fully in our third paper: Zero-Point Energy: Capturing Evanescence." Garret Moddel, Journal of Scientific Exploration 36(3) 493-503 (2022). doi.org/10.31275/20222567. Available for download: journalofscientificexploration.org/index.php/jse/article/view/2567/1687
@@moddel Do you think the Stanford ringing bell experiment uses zero point? The bell has been ringing for over 100 years and I don't understand how it can do this. Definitely seems to violate the 2nd law. Edit: Both of those links are now dead. 🙁
If you search internet for the title paper or author it's there, first link is dead at source journal. But 2nd listing is ResearchGate who has free pdf dl of paper. Click author name for listing of other works. RG lists 169 papers...all free or request.
Very interesting, I have thought about using the cassimir effect for vacuum energy propulsion. Could you recommend the type of equipment required to fabricate these tiny devices, or suggest further reference books? Thank you, and if there is any way to support your work please share.
As you probably know, there has been a significant amount of work into using vacuum energy for propulsion. That involves a different set of constraints and technologies. Unfortunately, fabricating the current devices requires some sophisticated technology. As a starting point, I suggest that you take a look at Section 2.1 in our Symmetry paper (www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/13/3/517) and the references given there. We're hoping to simplify the fabrication in the future.
I've been intrigued by that in the past, but haven't found proof that they work. Have you?. In the system presented here there are no inductors (of any significance).
It's very simple thermodynamics and the increase in entropy is relative to closed systems, you're dealing with an open system so it doesn't apply at all
At this point we, or others who have read our papers, will use the resources we have to slowly demonstrate more. Alternatively, if a deep pocketed benefactor or foundation finds this to be sufficiently intriguing, the process will speed up.
@@moddel Notwithstanding the amount of time necessary to commercialize something like this, or even make a working product that can be sold to the public at large but.... What we need today is a device that can produce electricity, heat a home, and provide clean drinking water, that everyone can have in their house.
17:15 As the diagram shows the insulator limited some current so the signal amplitude is slightly decreased on the output side , means energy loss back to the background , most likely at the insulator junction. Like the leaf is curved the insulator should also be curved . Funny how this triggers the thought of the V gate magnet rail system
Thank you for doing this work, from now on I begin to follow your channel, I think that the reasons why this type of technology does not prosper are exposed in the recent documentary by Dr. Steven Greer, we hope to be close to developing this type of technology for our own good.
No, two metals by themselves don't create any voltage/potential difference, because for every electron there's a proton to balance the electric potential. The plates would have to be charged to create a voltage, but then you would need to explain, where the charge is coming from. Since the experimenters did not charge these plates, there needs to be another effect, the most likely being the photoelectric effect. But the researchers used multiple screening techniques to shield the device from outside radiation, so it can't be the normal photoelectric effect. The researchers posit, that it's similar to the photoelectric effect, but instead of photons creating free charges, it could be virtual photons creating unobservable hot electrons (not-observable because they can only exist for such a short period time, given by Heisenbergs uncertainty relation, that they literally could not be measured, but could still have real effects).
There is an industrial process for making this sort of thing called roll-to-roll manufacturing, and i'd hope that ultimately it could be used for this stuff. Yes, they should be stackable, but we haven't demonstrated that yet.
I'm very curious if the media will finally report on these discoveries, when other labs confirm your work. Any guesses how long it'll be until then? This has to be developed as fast as possible to combat climate change. I'm studying nanotechnology and would love to work on these machines in the future, it sounds too good to be true, but the sci-fi nerd in me is really rooting for you and you're team.
Thanks for rooting for us. I've been avoiding making bold statements to the media until we have ironclad published proof from multiple sources that our technology is viable. There is a history of premature press releases about new energy technologies that didn't stand up to later scrutiny. I fully agree that this sort of technology needs to get out there immediately, and it's frustrating that the vetting process is so slow. It's hard for me to predict when the time will be right because there were delays in our first two publications (links given above under "show more") due to stubborn reviewers who attempted to block publication even after all their objections were met, and that may happen again.
@@moddel I can see, how this is really frustrating for you and your team, but I can also see, that this is such a big claim, that it really is very hard to accept. You're research on other phenomena, that are considered fringe science, might of course also incite skepticism, but I believe in trusting people, until proven right or wrong, even when I might not share their views on other topics. You will receive a strong headwind, just like anyone or anything that threatens entire industries (especially in the energy sector), but of course I still hope for the best. After studying your papers for a bit, I now have a few questions, that I'd like to have more conclusive answers on, than I could get out of your publications. 1. Could you use another electrode material instead of nickel for the base electrode to change the current? In your model the current has to tunnel from the base electrode through the insulator, so the nickel electrode would be the decider for how much current can flow. Maybe one could change the material or use different grid structures to increase the current? 2. How did you decide on the error bars of your measurement devices? I know, you used a high precision Keithley 2612 source meter. But in the manual for that device, it says, it's error bar for current measurement is at least around 100nA, only the Model 2635 source meter has better precision, and for your voltage measurement you used a HP 3478A digital multimeter. Can you really be sure, that your error bars are correct? I just want to make sure. Believing your supplement materials, current should be in the 100 pA error range, so if that's true, all good. The scaling with area and array size seems to suggest, your measurements are precise and the effect is real. Still, it would be nice to know more about measurement accuracy or to have way bigger devices, so these doubts can be eliminated. 3. There are nano-piezoelectric devices (ZnO nanowires between two electrodes under ultrasound) with a theoretical power output of 1 W/cm³. I don't think piezoelectricity could be the whole explanation, but it is peculiar, that you used a silica dielectric, which is used for piezoelectric generators and only after putting in the dielectric, the offset current was measured. In the paper it is said, that the current can only flow between base and palladium electrode because of the high dielectric resistance. But is it possible, that a voltage inside the dielectric could have an effect on the electron density distribution in the palladium electrode right next to it ensuring a higher probability of electrons tunneling from nickel to palladium instead of palladium to nickel? Btw I do believe the current is caused by hot carrier electrons excited by quantum fluctuations, I'm just playing with ideas for even slightly possible alternative explanations, that weren't discussed in your papers. I have to admit, it's very hard to find some.
This will never combat climate change. We are talking about nano currents. Also, the device doesn't work. But if you aren't a physicist you won't understand it.
Particularly consider Casimir Cavity as the source of Magnetic attraction/repulsion? ZPE cavity would explain a whole lot about this fascinating stuff magnetism.
A video that digs more deeply into the issues raised was just posted: ua-cam.com/video/GmLsF5yEd9o/v-deo.html The first part in the new video is largely a summary of the Unlocking video, with a few additions. The new material starts at 23 minutes into the video.
@@moddel Thanks! And other labs have started to try to replicate your work, that's great! I do have a question about your "Thermal Model" outlined at 37:23. You state that this model would obey the first law, but violate the second law. That would be true if the "volume" of the overall system remains fixed, but could it be that the "cooling" of the environment is achieved via a local expansion of spacetime? I know it sounds crazy, but it reminds me on the cooling of the CMB, only in reverse I guess... Those photons "cooled" from 3000K to 2.73K without transferring any of their energy to any physical entity. The CMB photons' cooling comes entirely from the expansion of the universe (at least that's my understanding). So, in your proposed Thermal Model, if these devices are causing an expansion of spacetime in their immediate vicinity while they are extracting ZPE energy, then this would stretch the wavelength of the surrounding radiation and the violation of the 2nd law would be circumvented (I guess, in a way, the device would be converting time (the remaining lifetime of the universe) into usable energy and thereby accelerating the overall expansion and heat death of the universe). Perhaps this could even be tested by shining a laser beam past the cavity while it is extracting ZPE to see if the wavelength changes while the cavity is producing current?
Interesting bit a little after 27 minutes where Dr. Mike McCulloch says that his Quantized Inertia predicts (approximately) your observations. ua-cam.com/video/82PnulUlSSo/v-deo.html Gosh, I haven't heard from McCulloch in forever! Almost forgot about him...
What is the next step for this technology going forward? Could it be independently verified by a trusted third party? Could a fool-proof demonstration device be constructed that powers something like an LED?
@@Idonai Here's the zero-point energy page on my lab website: ecee.colorado.edu/~moddel/QEL/ZPE.html. The location might be changed in the future, in which case you'll be able to find it through my department page here: www.colorado.edu/ecee/garret-moddel. Thanks for your interest.
I'm seeing this 3 years past posting...wondering if there were any updates.....or big oil & gas have already nulled the research (and maybe the scientist).
Is it possible to upload a video showcasing your devices directly (the existing ones)? I think video evidence of a measured current and to see your equipment and the devices in your laboratory would be of interest to a lot of people and reduce skepticism about your claims by a lot. Maybe I could even convince people at my university to look into this and replicate it.
Think of it this way : The "boiling space" is effectively a sea with a universal breeze over it. There is an average wave height and peaks and troughs. Tell me that wave energy can not gain peaks and troughs !
Great explanation of the Casimir effect. My guess is that nanotechnology will in the future be able to use the Casimir force to generate energy instead of just dealing with the problem of trying to eliminate the effect. Even the laboratory device Dr. Moddel presented looks promising considering what an industrial manufacturing of such devices could produce.
This is nonsense. There is absolutely no way of exploiting the Casimir effect. Separating and moving the plates will take more energy than you get out.
@@rogerphelps9939 I was thinking that on the nano scale it may be possible to overcome friction and for example construct perpetual oscillators, but yes it's just my amateur speculation, it could very well be impossible even on the nano scale.
@@Anders01 That already exists. It is not a big deal. These system can't change the state. Also, I hate people who think we should care about their inventions. It is on you to show that we should care. If you work with nano currents, you will miss so many mistakes. The device he showed is already flawed. His device is not in equilibirium, but he doesn't follow all the energies. His device changes the amount of charges on both sides. This will change the voltage. And when he removes charges, you will spend energy (which will balance the energy sheet).
Great video - I’d love to see a detailed description of the equipment and apparatus you used for your zero point experiment. you would have a HUGE following if you made more content.
Harnessing quantum fluctuations is the key. If you look at the experiments of the "Star in a jar", you will see that the energy that is produced is huge and the so-called "fluctuations" are actually the oscillations as the particles implode and explode (within a field). This is where the Electrons at the zero point, change through Thermo-dynamic entropy, to Protons. The Zero point is the field which is created, called a Neutron. This is also the same as in a black hole, which the Atom is a microcosm of this. The 2D model for this as a clue is the Yin Yang in 3D. It is a Toroidal field, that displays the paths of the Electrons and Protons, that spiral into the center(Vortices) where Zero point energy happens. The idea that equilibrium does not support flow in the case of the Atom is incorrect as the Electrons and Protons are in a constant state of motion or flow. I believe this is what Tesla and others knew. Look at the Wardenclyffe tower-it is a torus, sitting atop a vortex. If you emulate the structure of something - i.e. an Atom, you can harness its power.
I hooked into the excitement of various chemical reactions in a quest for ionic fluids and did a series of salt based chemical reactions and after a number of failures I saw something happen one day .. In a round glass tank of hydrogen peroxide at a low percentage with a flat bottom I dropped a product from a series of the most promising salt based reactions that I had done into the center of this tank where I had a small pile of a reactive component waiting where it immediately produced a very small scale controlled explosion that spread out semetricly into a circle of what looked like sparkling diamonds . It was a very nice surprise ,, I produced a reactor vessel with two grids made from silver solder and with one slightly smaller than the other set closely together connected to a multi meter set to read DC voltage as I had planned to use this ionic fluid as an electrolyte. I poured the fluid in and the voltage quickly rose to nearly twelve volts before it began to slow down and I could see that it was producing dendrites or something so quickly that it filled up at the bottom of the grid and was slowly shorting the bottom of the grid out . I started producing another reactor vessel so that I could deal with the bi product and decided that I could work with what I thought resembled a flow battery and just poured my ionic fluid into a container and left it sitting as it was that winter was over and I had to make use of the weather and get my sailing vessel underway and sail it to a more desirable location before winter comes around again. After several months I returned home and realized I had left my ionic fluid sitting in an open container and it had grown into crystals but what I had expected to be a type of perchlorate more closely resembles potassium nitrate crystals .. At the same time I was doing that experiment I was working with high speed switching in a resonant circuit with a 27000mhz quartz crystal to provide the swing that could be scaled up to power a larger coil that I could tune and experiment with scalar waves as opposed to the steam powered device that Tesla created to produce the swing for one of his coils . I had an almost dead nine volt battery that was still producing six volts and expected it would be enough for a test to power the LEDs and compensate for the resistance I had in the circuit. This produced what I believe must be a resonance cascade because it produced enough DC voltage to destroy the LEDs and I wasn't sure what else but It would appear that I got more than I bargained for even if I didn't get something for nothing ....
Awesome presentation and well explained. 👍What hinders you to make a big Prototyp to find investors and to get it into large production? The technology is already used for micro electronics production and therefore you could produce it in large quantities already. What do you need to do so?
Your ambient measurement wasn't subject to even a few nanoamps? Can you explain that? What was the measurement setup? Whzt was each volt,amp sample in the first fitted scatter plot? Did you use a superconductor? You claim there is less energy in the Casimir cavity. Had that been confirmed? Isn't is possible that the fewer low frequancy modes are offset by more high frequency modes? Have you proposed a mechanism for the difference in modes mediating the electron flow? If so, is there a paper showing the math?
This result might be due to a gradient in the zero-point energy density, and may not violate the 2nd law,. This is discussed explicitly in the following-on presentation, which is available at ua-cam.com/video/z6_KKXTbTyg/v-deo.html The 2nd law discussion is about 29 minutes into the presentation.
Take the very basic crystal radio from the ground up and your basic antenna and put a Tesla coil in between them. The coil is hollow and gets highly charged air pumped and the ions pass through the coil to generate current. The ground and coil and antenna represent a transistor. And current flows through the transistor to a bridge rectifier to a capacitor hooked up in parallel to other capacitors. That’s a start for now.
Is it wishful thinking to believe that a hobbyist scientist, or an amateur scientist, or an interested layperson might make one of these devices? What are the hurdles a dedicated but cash-strapped person would have to overcome? Can anyone answer about needed minimum equipment and materials? Or reasonable substitutions? Thanks in advance. Best wishes for all, for you, and for yours.
At this point, unfortunately, it's not something that a hobbyist can make. The reasons include that the individual devices require submicron fabrication techniques, and the insulator interfaces are extremely sensitive. Our intention is to find ways to avoid those constraints in the future, to make the devices easily manufacturable.
@@moddel I think you would be able to interest the energy industry if you would manufacture a bigger number of these devices in parallel and let it run consistently with the same output for a long time, in theory for ever... then you would not have to prove anything.
@@moddel Why that much for the first one? I watched a youtuber that replicates integrated circuits in his home, I guess process should be not more complicated than standard silicon lithography?.
Our research papers and talks are listed here (to be updated in the future): www.colorado.edu/faculty/moddel/research/zero-point-energy-technology . An update to this talk is at ua-cam.com/video/z6_KKXTbTyg/v-deo.html . The new stuff starts about halfway through.
If you consider the infrared electromagnetic waves given off inside a container like a mumetal (or other) box, you have terahertz electromagnetic waves inside the container. While the box will block out visible light frequencies, you still have terahertz waves striking the device inside the box. I am wondering if they have considered photoconductivity, or even photoemission, the photoelectric effect. Terahertz electromagnetic waves striking a device can create measurable results. How do we know that? The idea might be that "normally, terahertz frequencies would not create current and voltage" Actually, a device can be constructed to make use of incoming terahertz electromagnetic waves (infrared). Night vision goggles for example. Just to be clear, I admire their work. In the list of tests called out as trying to explain the outcomes, I did not hear the issue of terahertz frequency emission discussed. It would worth considering tests for the photoconductive effect. (If you consult Wien's Displacement Law, the formula for calculating wavelength and thus frequency from temperature is: Wavelength = b/T, where b is Wien's displacement constant T is temperature. You can convert room temp to approx. 21 degrees celsius, or 294 degrees Kelvin, and b = 0.0029, then convert the wavelength to frequency. Alternatively, look up "electromagnetic spectrum" on wiki to get the infrared frequency spectrum)
@@Greg_Chase But how is it, that a current was only measured, when a Casimir Cavity was placed behind the metal-insulator-metal diode and scaled inversely with the thickness of the Casimir cavity? If it was just the photoconductivity, shouldn't there also be a current without the Casimir cavity? And if we go with the hypothesis, that it's somehow photoconductivity from the Casimir cavity, wouldn't we expect the current to scale with cavity size instead of scaling inversely with the size? I think, your hypothesis should be tested, but my guess would be, that it's not photoconductivity.
@@light8258 There is a fatal flaw in the entire underpinning of the "zero point fluctuations" as presently treated. "Electrons and positrons briefly pop into existence, and then self-annihilate." Unless you have a demonstrably provable model of the *_exact physical nature_* of the real constituents of the quantum Vacuum, the workings/explanation of the Casimir effect are not on a firm foundation. It is claimed that the space gap between the atoms in two separated, but closely-spaced plates is tiny enough to create a 'pressure difference' of higher pressure 'zero point fluctuations' or 'zero point energy' on the opposite outer sides of the two plates, and a lower 'pressure' in the tiny space gap between the plates due to the exclusion of some portion of the quantum fluctuations. What is the conventional explanation of zero point energy? Quantum fluctuations. "Electron-positron pairs pop into existence briefly then quickly self-annihilate." Are we relying on that as the source of the pressure difference that is created in the Casimir effect of closely-spaced plates? Yes, indeed, that is the claimed physical nature as to why the two plates come together. There is a fatal flaw with this. 1) relying on the actual, physical existence of the quantum fluctuations to force the two plates together is REQUIRED to explain the Casimir effect 2) so if you ask someone in the field who believes the Casimir effect to be correctly explained "do the quantum fluctuations that lead to the Casimir effect have a physical existence?" they will answer "Yes" And that is the fatal flaw. Because - it is well known, and has been known for decades from lab experiments, that when a physically real electron and positron annihilate, gamma rays are produced. So the underpinnings of the Casimir effect should lead to a quantum vacuum filled with a gamma ray background. And there is none. So my point is, I would like to see more rigor vis-a-vis the nailing down of the *_exact physical nature_* of the true constituents of the quantum vacuum. I do not think the Casimir effect rests on a solid physical foundation. When I have discussed this issue, I get a wishy-washy response very frequently, as in "the quantum vacuum fluctuations do not have a real, physical manifestation, they are purely mathematical" and yet "but even though they are purely mathematical, they can manifest a vacuum 'pressure differential' that can push two plates together in the Casimir effect." One suggestion I've heard is "there is no gamma ray background perhaps because the particle-antiparticle pairs don't actually self-annihilate - they are persistent, they exist and are long-lived in the Vacuum. And we do not detect them because the particle and antiparticle spins are opposite and cancel."
@@Greg_Chase Well, I'm only a student in physics, and I haven't read much about the Casimir effect yet, but intend to do so, when I have some time on my hands, so maybe I can give you a more satisfying answer in a couple of months. What I can say for now, is that Robert Jaffe has proposed a different way to derive the Casimir effect without quantum fluctuations, so the Casimir effect shouldn't be used, to justify the existence of virtual particles. Virtual particles are indeed a mathematical tool, that led to the most precise predictions in physics ever. Because it's so accurate, physicists sometimes forget, that it's still just a mathematical tool. Virtual particles violate conservation of energy and can have infinite velocities. That's why they don't produce gamma-rays. For example, when you try to calculate the effects of quantum fluactuations on an actual electron, you'd theoretically need to sum over infinite variations of virtual particles. If all these would produce gamma radiation, there would be infinite gamma radiation everywhere. Also I've read somewhere that the Casimir effect can be described as relativistic van-der Waals forces, but I'd have to look deeper into this, to see if that is a better way to explain it, than virtual particles.
@@light8258 I work with a small group and we developed a speculative physical model of what the constituents of the Vacuum might be. We needed that because we developed a coherent acceleration device that utilizes electromagnetic acoustic resonance (EMAR), operating at extremely high frequencies, to create coherent accelerations of particles in laminations (layers) of very thin slices of materials (metals, bismuth, etc). The workaday world uses a similar idea for non-destructive testing - the devices are called 'EMAT' - electromagnetic acoustic transducers. They deploy the Lorentz force to create acoustic waves inside metal objects. We needed to create a speculative physical model of what the constituents of the Vacuum might be in order to predict the coupling effects of the coherent accelerations of the charged particles in our test devices with the constituents of the Vacuum. So we sort of walked away from the 'virtual particles' idea a while back. Either they're real, or they're just math, and if they're just math, the physical 'something' that motivated their need to exist is not rigorous yet, and not useful to us. Our devices seek to increase the gravity field of an object - after Cavendish demonstrated, in the year 1798, that all collections of atoms (all objects of matter) possess their own gravity field, we're in a deep dive, by means of extreme coherent accelerations of charged particles, to alter the gravity field produced by an 'active' test object. If a large collection of randomly-oriented accelerations in the atoms of rock, dirt, and water (a planet) can create gravity, a more orderly preparation of those accelerations might create an observable effect.
barrowing zero point energy to generate electricity is my project. hard to explain how i am working on doing it other than using zero point energy as the fuel to turn the generator. though it would need conventional starting but once up to operating rotation speed zero point energy takes over. it is great so many people are working on these projects.
so true about the blindness of some scientists to reject anything not already described - totally shuts down new innovation. also, very clear and common sense explanation, very well presented, very much appreciate you sharing this information.
This is nothing short of amazing. Well done. I think personally that people should get on board and invest in this great invention. I think a great way to go, would be, power a device with this tech and show the world that this works. I have no idea how much this would cost, forgive my ignorance, if this is very expensive. Who could dispute it then. Without people like you where would we be. I hope you get the recognition and investment that i believe this deserves. Thank you.
Just re-watched this, and a question that comes to my mind is: What happens to the zero point energy field if you are using a very large version of this device? If you take enough energy from the zero point field, would that cause a flow in the surrounding field, and what happens when you have a flowing zero point field?
A basic quantum mechanical model views zero-point energy as being a fixture of space. By that model, when you remove the zero-point energy from a particular volume of space, the zero-point energy that remains in that volume does not change. That model would seem to contradict conservation of energy, the first law of thermodynamics. According to another model, stochastic electrodynamics, zero-point fluctuations are real electromagnetic fluctuations, and when you harvest them that volume of space needs to be filled in by energy flowing in from elsewhere. Another model, which I'm calling the thermal model, is that the zero-point energy fluctuations are fed by thermal fluctuations ultimately, which would mean that when you harvest the zero-point energy, that volume becomes cooler. That would violate the second law of thermodynamics. So… different people would answer the question differently. This is described about halfway through a more recent video that is posted here: ua-cam.com/video/z6_KKXTbTyg/v-deo.html
The only theoretical problem is, this quantum tunneling device is not a Casimir cavity. But it works anyway, because quantum tunnelling itself is in non-equilibrium with ZPE. Now, Tesla and Moray discovered ‘overunity cosmic energy’ devices based on Fowler Nordheim quantum tunneling, that had output of 50 KWatt. The Born rule is invalid for quantum tunneling (which was already expressed by Gamov’s original theory about quantum tunneling, overruled by Max Born). Antony Valentini also described non-equilibrium qm statistics that violate Born’s rule, but he did not yet discover that quantum tunneling does the trick. This effect can be optimized and on a big scale. Goodluck, and keep up the good work, excellent presentation, and excellent thinking.
@@moddel An excellent presentation on the Casimir effect: ua-cam.com/video/12yjbyunRdM/v-deo.html by Peter Milonni. It does not answer the question how conduction electrons are influenced by the Casimir force. First of all: is this force a conserved force or not? Imho, zpe extraction/conversion is not necessarily a Casimir force effect.
Did he miss checking the galvanic interaction of those various metals and oxides? Ni is short 2 electrons in 3d and Pd has a full 3d and 4d shell, with loosely bound electrons. There could be a probability current for electrons to be given up by Pd to Ni, I think.
That's a legitimate concern. We carried out several experiments that test for it, as described the Symmetry paper (with link given in "Show More" under the video). In particular, Figure 6 shows that the current continues indefinitely (we've extended it much longer than the 4 hours shown), which indicates that it's not a chemical reaction that is getting used up. Also, the output varies with the cavity width, shown in Figure 4a&b, and with the addition of the mirror, shown in Figure 8; those variations wouldn't be the case if the response were due to a galvanic interaction, which would be the same independent of cavity thickness and mirror.
Further to my last email, have you considered contamination of the dielectric in the casimir cavity with radioactive isotopes? This would be a bit like the beta-voltaic devices in the news recently. Presumably each beta electron would release many hole-electron pairs in the diode. The Betavolt company claims 100uW at 3V. This is 30uA. You only need to account for 30nA. However this would still be a high concentration of the beta emitter
This is also a legitimate point. Last year I looked into whether we might inadvertently have radioactive nickel, but the incidence is too low to give the currents we're seeing.
I am back after a year, and I just got to say, please do not stop trying! I'll be coming back from time to time, I'm hoping you can share more videos, just to spread awareness and result from experiments etc
Tremendous work. I have raised this with my Twitter followers so I hope a lot of people will see this very fast.
Indeed I’m here because of you Hans
Thx for sharing Hans. Very interesting indeed!
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Thx for the heads up Hans! Ben Krasnow (aka AppliedScience on youtube) has the required vacuum and evaporative deposition equipment required to replicate this, as well as the test gear to measure nanoAmps.
Please don’t stop what you’re doing and thank you 🙏 for sharing this video. Question everything and accept all results even the ones we didn’t expect. Everyone should make up their own minds up with critical thinking. 🧐 many thanks.
Arthur Eddington rejected the Bazouky -Zhaboutinsky (BZ) article on oscillatory chemical reactions based on violation of the second law. This type of reaction is currently a corner stone in the field of non linear chemical reactions.
In addition: The experimental results of Dan Shechtman on quasi-crystals were totally rejected by Pauling. He said that there only quasi scientidts nan believe in quasicrystals. Dan Shechtman received his Nobel prize some 10 years ago for his work on quasi crystals. He had the courage to violate a mote fundamental theory than the second law - basic geometry on possible symmetries.
I was always fascinated by the Casimir effect and its relation to the result 1+2+3+.... = -1/12 nicely explained by Casimir .Your experimental work is a real masterpiece.
You need to show this to Dr. Steven Greer. He is working to make such devices available to the public. He has great moment and foundation behind him.
Pls upvote, Dr. Greer should see this ASAP
Any "scientist" who hitches hia wagon to Steven Greer has lost before the horse is out of the gate. LOL
the ones that don't, end up dead?
Why doesn't he just ask his alien buddies to do it?
Ha ha. What are the chances, (seriously, do the mathematical propabilities) that we are the only ones in existance in all of the planets, moons, solar systems, galaxies, universes, multiverses, quasars, etc etc etc.and that none are older than 6000 years? Wake up.
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I'm awake! I'm awake already! Turn out the lights, you're blinding me with your brilliance! 😎💤
I'd love to have you on The Singularity Lab to discuss your work.
Very interesting, thank you. The 2nd law is violated under certain conditions in nonlinear optics too.
Well done. You are asking the right questions. In my career, the most exciting events were those unexpected results and what my boss liked to describe as happy accidents. Take the good luck when it falls in your lap. Don't ignore the unexpected results! Don't throw anything away until you have given it a thorough look first.
Look at it this way: Electrically resistive heating has an energy used to heating ratio of 1:1. Heat pumps, however, have ratios upwards of 1:3.5. "Oh my goodness! Are we violating the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?" No. We're simply operating two separate systems -- evaporation and condensation -- at two distinctly disparate points in a medium's phase diagram.
I suspect unlocking zero-point energy would require a similar approach, where we're pulling energy at one quantum potential while returning it at another. As with heat-pumps, it will require energy to do this, but it will require considerably less energy than the energy we get out. Not to worry, as with heat pumps, that flip side of the equation is that one area of the electrophysical process gets warm, or positively charged, while another area gets cold, or negatively charge. As with solar, which inputs energy into the system via energetic photons, ZPE must have a potential which can be tapped in order for this to work.
If not, well...
Evidence based science is how many discoveries have been made over the years. Run a kick starter project to build a prototype, even if it turns out to be something other than what you expect, the idea seems worth exploring.
What amazing, groundbreaking, and thorough research you and your team have done! It boggles my mind (but at the same time, I'm not surprised) that this hasn't reached a broader audience. I feel lucky that I stumbled on your video and would like to figure out the best way to share this knowledge in such a way that it will reach the right people who can create (and potentially mass produce) a practical consumer product based on this technology. I feel like with most of these things, there is a tipping point when there is enough attention that it explodes. But it's never a good idea to let something like this, which has a tremendous potential to do so much good in the world, fall to the wayside.
the big oil companies won't allow this to go public. The will do everything to suppress it.
Thanks for covering the problems with publishing at the end of the talk. As experience has shown us - experimentation and observation outweighs any theory. This paper is giving the community a result that obviously needs more looking at - especially due to the implications.
Remember, Kelvin didn't think heavier-than-air flight was possible (and he even said this again AFTER it was already proven).
Your quote near the end I am guessing was paraphrasing Heaviside when he talked about using his Operator Calculus: "Just because I don't know how my body digests food, doesn't mean I shouldn't eat breakfast".
Keep it up. Get this information out there more. Somehow getting this effect to show up for the home-shop experimenters is what's needed - something that doesn't require such things plasma deposition or photolithography to create would be helpful.
That is a very compelling explanation of the principle of the ZPE generator. As an engineer, I am intrigued. Thank you very much for the presentation.
"If they spit at you behind your back, it means you're ahead of them" -Confucius
What happens if the Casimiro cavity is smaller or equal than the tunnel layer. I mean you have a metal isolator metal isolator metal device
You're right that that the metal-insulator-metal device is a skinny Casimir cavity, and so there are two cavities in tandem. We have some ideas about how that affects things, but getting a good theorist involved at some point would be helpful.
The second law of thermodynamics states: " It only applies to closed systems ". Taping energy from the quantum vacuum has nothing to do with this law, since all of nature, and the illusion of solid matter state have to be constantly filled up by the closest "reality projectors " , our Sun and the Earth. Otherwise, matter would cease to exist and that's the reason why anything in existence is in an open loop with its environment, and closed loop systems are only theoretical, and at the macro scale. Not the quantum state. I don't know why so many researchers and scientists fail to mention this and or are afraid of the second law boogie man.
Do you plan on making a bigger device? And what would be the difficulties in doing that?
Sir, your efforts echo a much larger quandary now challenging the scientific community collectively: via dynamic media, i.e. Rogan, etc. Some of the critiques - as baseless they may be - shed a stirring light upon the factions you are encountering amongst the guarded "elite" body politic. I think your analysis and proofs far exceed the blessing to dig deeper. Well done and keep up the good fight to damn-the- torpedoes.
I notice that devices stack vertically, while source and drain currents flow horizontally. Is this orthogonality important?
No, that's just the way we make electrical contact.
can someone tell me why exactly nickel and palladium are used ?
The main reason is that those are materials we had been working on for other projects. Other materials will work, and there needs to be a deep dive in alternatives.
@@moddel Thanks!
In Casimir mirrors experiment has been subtracted the gravitational attraction?
A question for you professor, is the ZPE temperature dependent? Could the energy that has been extracted be routed through a Seebeck device or even a Thompson Effect unit, to derive lower temps without external inputs? Could this temperature difference aid in more energy being extracted. Could a TEG of Sodium Cobaltate (NaCo2O4) be used in a cooling effort, this type of TEG works at extreme temps upwards of 1100 K, could it be reversed to create temperatures lower than 273 K to aid in more energy extraction and hence a create a reversed thermal run away?
Can you link to the other experiments you measured. I can't find them.
We haven't published them yet.
Thank you for explaining this properly!!! I have searched and searched and everything else I find is explaining it in way a magician would talk about their best trick… all theory!
You actually showed the how and why scientifically! THANK YOU!
You're a legend! Confirm you are not suicidal... this technology is dangerous to the status quo and people promoting it have a history of being suppressed, paid-off, being setup/entrapped/blackmailed, painted as crazy and committing 'suicide'.... but this technology is necessary. I hope you succeed in commercializing it! Don't underestimate the obstacles, but I hope you don't give up!
Agreed, even making an engine that is fuel efficient is dangerous.
well now they have these neat things called ‘direct energy weapons’ so…they can get us anywhere now. fkn scary world we live in.
☠️i am not going to off myself.☠️
How are you powering your home?
Did you look for Triboelectricity, or for electrolytic electricity for the source of this device? I mean the electrodes are dissimilar. Dose it also work with similar metals? We have to be sure that it is undisprovable. Can it be made with household items?
I think the electrodes can be made from different metals, but you definitely can't do this with household items, because of the tunnel diode, which has to be in the nanometer range. This can only be produced via nanofabrication/lithography. But you're right, that there are many other options (different explanations) left untested, even though the evidence seems in favor of vacuum fluctuations. We just have to wait for independent replication and more tests on these devices.
@@light8258 you are right but schottky diode for example can be easily made at home with copper two oxide (the black cupper oxide) by heating and oxidizing it in a flame Robert Murry Smith showed in his channel a novel approach of hoy to build a metal/metal oxide/metal junction. i really want this to reproduce it at home to independently confirm or dismiss it. I really want this to be real because it sounds so simple and ingenious at the same time. Next step should be to build it with similar metals to exclude to build a solid electrolyte battery if it really works as described then it should be independent from metal combination.
Excellent work team, thank you!
This work reminds me of the 'Cold Fusion' debate which again was about deriving useful energy but the problem (as I remember it) was that no one else could reproduce it. At around the 30 minute point in the talk, much is said about 'Ubiquitous Power' for lighting, electric vehicles, desalination etc etc. Could we just start with a demonstration of Zero Point Energy powering a simple torch (flashlight) - to me that would be impressive. I don't wish to come across as sounding negative, but if this subject is to be more than just an obscure scientific curiosity, then producing a simple electrical device would seem to be the way forward; that said I wish you all the best in your endeavours.
Agreed about the demonstration. That's our goal.
I desribed how to create a pseudozpe device that harvests energy from the CMB Try and put your device in a magnetic field at a 45 degree angle to the resonant cavity. It will help with charge separation if you made a true ZPE device.
It is a simple electrical device! Whether it produces 1W or 1pW is entirely irrelevant if the energy truly comes from zero point energy.
Any updates? Have you been able to move into a dedicated lab?
This needs more views. Gonna try and help spread this more, but I am no big fish :c
Edit: In general. I just want to know why no one is talking about this. I have read the submitted article and gone through every piece. There are definitely questions to be had and plenty of room for peer review, but WHY is no one talking about this???
Why is the scientific community just blatantly ignoring something like this? Is it too good to be true? Most likely, yeah. But the implications in of themselves could be monumental. This needs to be further investigated.
Algorithmic bias certainly doesn’t help when trying to get exposure on this presentation
It appears to me that investors aren't especially keen to allow a technology to develop that could limit their control of a top down supply chain. Ie: exotic middle eastern ancient plant material, refined and chemically seperated super rare radioactive elements, or it's synthetic isotopes. Catch me? I'm with the 99.9% of the world that believe use of super rare rather (actual, artificial or otherwise dubious) hard to get materials. Difficult to make/ solar panels with their cobalt, cadmium, lithium batteries for energy storage etc, for means of a new revolutionary energy production to change humanity are definitely not the correct path humanity should pursue. What I mean by that is it doesn't benefit future generations to govern and limit and monitor an artificial commodity.... and sets a terrible precedent for future generations how to now behave towards fellow humans. We're at a time where we have been living and affected by this system and we've steadily seen the world crumbling from greed and guilt and it's not too late to do something but we must work together and overcome this divisive greed we we're taught and become humanitarians, activists for a symbiotic relationship between humanity and Earths ecosystem. If the technology exists and is quashed and quelled by corporations that wish to maintain dominance, then we've failed. If we fall into a box of pragmatic dogma that robs us of our joy for exploration as it has some of our peers, we have failed.
I haven't fallen into a pragmatic box on things only made true by consensus and I hope that I never will.
The government doesn’t want anybody to know about this it would kill the current energy industry A lot of powerful people would lose a lot of money
Because it's bullshit. Scientists have better things to do with their time and money that waste it on schemes like this.
how will we be slaves without oil and gas?
Is this only at a “nano” scale for the device? Can this experiment be done with normal items? If so, could you show this in another video?
At this point the fabrication requires a highly specialized lab. All the procedures are described in our published articles. I don't see why it could not ultimately be produced with much lower tech once it's been worked on sufficiently.
You are fighting a battle against oil giants, government agencies, entire troll farms dedicated to discrediting you, decades of stigma, and essentially the entire monetary system. When Einstein said it 'will never be overthrown,' I believe he foresaw challenges like these. Publishing this is a crucial first step in the right direction, and humanity owes you gratitude for it.
I’m impressed, I’ll share it. Good job
This is astonishing work.
I'm interested in how to get the different layers so I can put them together myself
Unfortunately, until we or someone else figures out how to do this much more simply, you need a very specialized lab to do this. Some of the layers need to have a precise thickness within a few interatomic distances, the purity of the layers is critical, and the dimensions for each cell is about 1/millionth of a meter. I have confidence that this can be done in a more low-tech way, but it'll take a major investment of time and resources to get there.
Material effects like long-term memory and all kinds of things are one of those places already recognized in thermodynamics itself as violating the second law of thermodynamics.
If you read the book “Modern Thermodynamics: From Heat Engines to Dissipative Structures 1st Edition” written by Dilip Kondepudi & Ilya Prigogine that deals with non-equilibrium systems you will find that that's one of the areas that is known by the thermodynamicists themselves to violate that second law so we don't have to prove that we’re violating it permissibly it's already been done by a nobel prize winner.
everywhere you look in the alternative energy devices you see vibratorial simulations with energy effects . Like the Faraday wheel , the points where it taps the wheel is great location to vibrate the wheel at a hi frequency . you cannot see or feel high frequency . Try feeling a magnet vibrate in your hand next to a electromagnet running at high frequency ;)
I greatly appreciate your efforts! You and your team add true legitimacy to a technology that heretofore has often been seen as quackery... I await the commercialization of your device with great enthusiasm!
is there any notable updates on this? aside from fabrication hardships? how far have you managed to push the observable effect? any further discovery`s? how does the setup behaves in different temperatures?
the idea is highly interesting, has any other lab managed to replicate or continue the study?
would it be possible to access the ppt ?
This more simple, lecture style video has been much easier to follow and understand than other UA-cam videos on the same subject. Saying much of the same things, but you better explain it
Thank you!
The result might be explained by the reception of TEM radio waves (which is also in the micro Watt range), but that explanation can easily be disproved by placing Dr. Moddel's device in a Faraday cage, and measure its current. Do we understand the physical nature of 'ZPE' fields? Is it a spectrum of TEM waves, or is it a spectrum of an unknown type of vacuum waves? Can we lower the frequency of such waves in a ZPE harvesting device, such that we can make use of its energy without violating the second law of thermodynamics? I think ZPE harvesting can be done, I agree with Garret Moddel. A century ago Thomas Henry Moray wasn't granted a patent for his 1 KiloWatt (plus) 'free energy' device, because he could not explain its operation and the measured electric output power. Moray's device could be explained by taking into consideration Fowler Nordheim tunnelling by 'cold emission' electrons and a nearby 'Casimir cavity'. The mainstream physics community acts too much as a religious cult, defending fallacies and circular reasoning, rejecting new data that disagrees with its believes. It is time the funding of science will be done as it was done centuries ago, by private investors. Big science funded by big governments is dead! Blessed is our divine curiosity.
They already tested for electromagnetic radiation. They used a mu-metal box and an aluminium box as Faraday cages to shield low-frequency and high-frequency radiation respectively. If it was a radiation effect, you would either assume, it is caused by a higher or a lower frequency, but both times, the current-voltage curve was nearly the same. That means external radiation had most likely little to no effect on the experiment.
@@light8258 That is great, thank you Light!
This doesn't violate the 2nd law, since the temperature is not uniform. It has very tiny waves that are like uniform energy, which are in fact non uniform transfers of energy. It's just no one expected to be able to harvest these by blocking out larger frequencies. Based on the scale, these are on the range of X rays to higher intensity ultraviolet light, something that should be blocked by our atmosphere, unlikely to occur in the magnitude expected, let alone harvest.
Have you considered that this casimir effect is being used to block out all wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation except for X-Ray to UV rays, thus harvesting everything from UV to Radio?
As a physicist and engineer it's clear that if you don't follow the current paradigm you are ignored both recognition and funding and if there is any recognition it's negative because you are a threat to the paradigm and their only recourse is to attach the person and not the work.. So you are definitely going to have an uphill battle. But I hope you hang in there and continue your work. This is the future.
This is why Dr. Greer is pushing for Open Sourcing this work. Once the secret is known to the general people on the net, the dark government cannot keep the cat in the bag any more. The solution becomes easily solved by others and we can leave the internal combustion engines (ICE), the fossil fuel is no longer needed and the status quo is no longer supportable as the lies become common knowledge.
hey daily I hear you and I also want to create the zero point energy technology so can you guide me properly
Nikola Tesla said there is a “insulating fluid” that keeps all radiant matter separated. That insulating fluid can be broken down in one of two ways;
1) a large potential of voltage and current pushed made into a longitudinal wave. That would be akin to the turning on and off the large dynamos of Edison.
Those excess voltages produced back then killed quite a few workers.
2) find the resonant frequency of the insulating fluid and run the smallest spark possible(the least energy practicable to create a spark) in one direction and through a flat coil at that frequency. Tesla said the frequency associated with electrostatic energy was @ 1 million per second.
After Tesla used n oscillator that almost took down a city block in New York with less than .0001 the weight of the block in New York, he realized the second of those two possibilities advantageous. One could leverage tiny energies to unlock massive potentials through resonance.
You need a few pieces to make one. First an antenna element resonator tuned to the CMB. The second is that this element must be extremely thin so it generates a field known as surface plasmonic resonance, but in the microwave. Third the antenna array must be deposited on a field phase separation material called a topological superconductor such as graphene. Finally the assembly must be put in a strong magnetic field that encorages charge field separation. Stack these elements like pancakes to generate more voltage, make with more more surface area and you get more current. The magnetic field across the device must be as strong as possible and assymetric. It works by tunneling and charge diffusion as a very specialized rectifier diode. The ideal metal for the excitation element is a highly conductive noble metal, either gold or rhodium. It must not form a chemical compound with the carbon. A work around is to coat the graphene with a thin layer of a stable insulator.
Legal enforcement of a physical law! That is a true gem! Now, isn't the second law of thermodynamics a "classical" law? It's a description/prediction of a stochastic process taking place between molecules in a classical manner, isn't it? I'm convinced material science is perhaps the most significant, and optical resonant cavities are going to be an increasingly important... I'm thinking of returning to school in the sciences and you've inspired me to examine materials science. Thank you! OH! I meant to ask, the second law - is there a clear theoretical basis or is it something that is regularly observed and the popular hypotheses just feel right sorta thing? It brings to mind the Einstein/Bohrs debates, which brings further to mind Einstein's derogatory term, "spooky action at a distance," which is now the foundation of some very important advances in applied physics.
The second law has been proven theoretically for some idealized conditions, but there isn't a general proof that covers all possible initial conditions. I believe that the main reason the physics community adheres to it so faithfully is that there are no generally acknowledged violations of the second law. That doesn't mean there haven't been violations presented in the scientific literature; it just means that they're not generally accepted. For that to happen, we need to have lots of replications of our work, and a scaling up -- which we're working on.
There is another issue, and that is that it's human nature to believe that you there's no free lunch. Violating the second law may be viewed as having that.
Please note that I do believe that we're violating conservation of energy (the first law of thermodynamics). For our system to obtain energy, I believe it has to extract it from somewhere -- also to be elucidated in the future
@@moddel I disagree that it is human nature to believe that there is no such thing as a free lunch. I believe that the reason that so many people believe that, right now, is because it is a popular idea in this capitalist-domainated society that we currently live in. I believe that most people, throughout history, did not have a strong belief, one way or the other, on whether or not there is such a thing as a "free lunch." (I mean, if such people even though about the subject, at all.)
@@moddel If the second law of thermodynamics was violated, we could build machines that are impossible. That's why it is a law!
I really enjoy seeing a more forward thinking approach to zeropoint energy thats also grounded.
Yet it in regards to the email you show here in the beginning; the elephant in the room I dont see any physicists trying to adresss is why must we presume background feilds are in equilibrium?
What strong evidence do we truly have for unifrom backround radiation truly being isotropic, and of that evidence what time and size scales was the collected over
Can we not say that due to reversibility; the appearance of homogeneity cannot be an artifact of out of equilibrium systems renormalizing to the paramaters under which we have probed them?
Is our definition of uniformity a pejorative description that is a product what we simply measure and omit from said measurments?
Even CMB when looked at from the largest models we can generate; by no means is truely uniformly distributed.
Would love to see if your current work could be utilized to potentially seek unbaised answers to these questions.
I’d like to argue for a working prototype leading to a pile moment to juice up a simple transistor radio. What’s stopping this?
Interesting presentation. Was the experiment done at different temperatures, near absolute zero and very high temperatures?
Yes, but it needs to be done more rigorously before I'd feel comfortable publishing the results.
@@moddel Makes sense. Do you think the energy output is proportional to temperature?
@@Tony770jr From what we've seen so far, it appears to be independent of temperature. I'm hedging, though, because we need more replications before we can be sure.
Could it be possible that the slope is provided by the constant passing of gravitational waves?
Gravitational waves are way too weak of an effect. The coupling constant of the electromagnetic force is 10^36 times higher than that of gravity. So at these atomic scales, there's no chance, gravity could produce such a large effect (even if the numbers might seem tiny).
@light8258 would EM be responsible? I feel like gravitational force, and strong force could also contribute to pairs of mater/antimatter particles existing for a small amount of time. I'll argue better after I take physical chemistry 2 next semester.
@@trixinreno419 Electromagnetism is most definitely the force to look at in this experiment. Gravity can contribute to virtual particle creation, but the gravitational force has to be very large. You'd have to be at the event horizon of a black hole or accelerating even faster than the best particle colliders can achieve to create asymmetric particle creation. And the strong force is probably too short-ranged to able to influence electrons. Still, the strong force is a more likely influence on this device than gravity, so it might be interesting to investigate that hypothesis, but I wouldn't expect it to be a significant contributing effect.
@light8258 I was thinking about some of the extreme situations like... the millions of neutrinos passing through us every second that are still experiencing strong force interactions and could possibly interact on some level when passing through other subatomic particles. Or the fact that there are pulsars sweeping beams of polarized particles at near light speed all over the universe, many of them pointing relatively close, E=MC² and M=E/C² and at that speed they pack a lot of energy, does the field care what form the equation is in for the creation of quarks or antiparticle pairs? All it takes are a few stray gluons to provide "atomic" level energy.
What about low temperatures? Maybe it is heat to electricity convertor since isolation of heat is done by lowering temperature.
Good idea! It was already tested, if the temperature had any effect on the devices and it doesn't seem to have a significant effect. But I do think, since it's impossible to create energy from nothing, that somehow the environment around the device should cool down, if the device uses surrounding energy and converts it into electricity, which could be tested for.
0:00 Guys from Polish University developed something simmilar last year or so, simmilarly looking but they claimed efficiency to be 2kW/m2 (i would rather say m3 - multiple layers) and nobody was publishing any new news ever since then.. you got my attention Maxwel's Daemon precisely shows what you have said in ifst minute 1:00 and other name for that is simply heat pump. Get energy out of cold by simply pumping heat from one end to another. Making one place colder other hotter without actually changing averange energy of these two places. So simple.. technically car engine connected to heat pump is able to burns oil with 150% efficiency. The only problem is it's mechanical device, its not cost effective
I wonder if the Hendershot generator is using those large capacitors as Kashimire gap.
From everything I understand about the physics of this and the 2nd Law. While there is the cassimir effect, you can't harness any of this energy because ir would always take more to unlock it. You'll still butt up against the 2nd law any time you try and get something for nothing.
Maxwell's demon suggests this as well - just by knowing information about where particles are in space, you could separate hotter and colder (higher/lower energy atoms) by opening and closing a gate, and gain energy by creating an energy gradient for nothing.
Even if it used less energy to do this than create the gradient - then you run into the fact that information itself requires energy - the mathematics can be worked out to come out as an equilibrium, which is essentially, if you start the process, it would run forever - but the problem then comes down to information storage, the erasure of the information that's inevitably required pushes you back to losing energy. You can't store the particle information forever in the system, you have to start removing it at some point. That's it. Game over. But you'd never even get close to constructing such a perfect system in the first place. It's only mathematically possible - then it still doesn't work, you come up against quantum physics laws about information.
This is different from attempting to extract energy from ambient thermal energy, which is what Maxwell's demon attempts to do. Instead, it appears that we're extracting it from zero-point energy fluctuations, which don't have the same relationship with the 2nd law. I address this more fully in our third paper: Zero-Point Energy: Capturing Evanescence." Garret Moddel, Journal of Scientific Exploration 36(3) 493-503 (2022). doi.org/10.31275/20222567.
Available for download: journalofscientificexploration.org/index.php/jse/article/view/2567/1687
@@moddel Do you think the Stanford ringing bell experiment uses zero point? The bell has been ringing for over 100 years and I don't understand how it can do this. Definitely seems to violate the 2nd law.
Edit: Both of those links are now dead. 🙁
If you search internet for the title paper or author it's there, first link is dead at source journal. But 2nd listing is ResearchGate who has free pdf dl of paper. Click author name for listing of other works. RG lists 169 papers...all free or request.
Very interesting, I have thought about using the cassimir effect for vacuum energy propulsion. Could you recommend the type of equipment required to fabricate these tiny devices, or suggest further reference books? Thank you, and if there is any way to support your work please share.
As you probably know, there has been a significant amount of work into using vacuum energy for propulsion. That involves a different set of constraints and technologies.
Unfortunately, fabricating the current devices requires some sophisticated technology. As a starting point, I suggest that you take a look at Section 2.1 in our Symmetry paper (www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/13/3/517) and the references given there. We're hoping to simplify the fabrication in the future.
Error on that link...paper not found...
Weird
@@moddelfor people trying to reach the link, just remove the ) at the end of the link
Also ResearchGate lists his paper in pdf dl. And 169 other publications of his as well. Search paper or name, internet or RG.
Hi Garret perhaps look into an inductors reverse polarity flyback . It occurs when the field collapses
I've been intrigued by that in the past, but haven't found proof that they work. Have you?. In the system presented here there are no inductors (of any significance).
@@moddel Yes the flyback works, capturing it back into the system improves efficiency at the very least. My channel has some details
I just noticed this was two years ago. Has anything new happened or did something shut it down??
It's very simple thermodynamics and the increase in entropy is relative to closed systems, you're dealing with an open system so it doesn't apply at all
Great video I watched this all the way to the end but I'm not quite sure, what is the call to action here?
At this point we, or others who have read our papers, will use the resources we have to slowly demonstrate more. Alternatively, if a deep pocketed benefactor or foundation finds this to be sufficiently intriguing, the process will speed up.
@@moddel Notwithstanding the amount of time necessary to commercialize something like this, or even make a working product that can be sold to the public at large but.... What we need today is a device that can produce electricity, heat a home, and provide clean drinking water, that everyone can have in their house.
17:15 As the diagram shows the insulator limited some current so the signal amplitude is slightly decreased on the output side , means energy loss back to the background , most likely at the insulator junction. Like the leaf is curved the insulator should also be curved . Funny how this triggers the thought of the V gate magnet rail system
Thank you for doing this work, from now on I begin to follow your channel, I think that the reasons why this type of technology does not prosper are exposed in the recent documentary by Dr. Steven Greer, we hope to be close to developing this type of technology for our own good.
You should contact Dr Greer. I know his team is working on funding these kind of projects with the goal of bringing it to public use.
Don't be so foolish. Greer is a con man.
Is it possible that the difference in the metals of the two plates could be causing the potential difference ?
No, two metals by themselves don't create any voltage/potential difference, because for every electron there's a proton to balance the electric potential. The plates would have to be charged to create a voltage, but then you would need to explain, where the charge is coming from. Since the experimenters did not charge these plates, there needs to be another effect, the most likely being the photoelectric effect. But the researchers used multiple screening techniques to shield the device from outside radiation, so it can't be the normal photoelectric effect. The researchers posit, that it's similar to the photoelectric effect, but instead of photons creating free charges, it could be virtual photons creating unobservable hot electrons (not-observable because they can only exist for such a short period time, given by Heisenbergs uncertainty relation, that they literally could not be measured, but could still have real effects).
@@light8258 Very Interesting 🙏
I am humbled by your discovery ! Let's make this happen !
You need to make a rolling press and sell those by the square mile. :) Can you stack them?
There is an industrial process for making this sort of thing called roll-to-roll manufacturing, and i'd hope that ultimately it could be used for this stuff. Yes, they should be stackable, but we haven't demonstrated that yet.
@@moddel What do you need to give it a go?
I'm very curious if the media will finally report on these discoveries, when other labs confirm your work. Any guesses how long it'll be until then? This has to be developed as fast as possible to combat climate change. I'm studying nanotechnology and would love to work on these machines in the future, it sounds too good to be true, but the sci-fi nerd in me is really rooting for you and you're team.
Thanks for rooting for us. I've been avoiding making bold statements to the media until we have ironclad published proof from multiple sources that our technology is viable. There is a history of premature press releases about new energy technologies that didn't stand up to later scrutiny. I fully agree that this sort of technology needs to get out there immediately, and it's frustrating that the vetting process is so slow. It's hard for me to predict when the time will be right because there were delays in our first two publications (links given above under "show more") due to stubborn reviewers who attempted to block publication even after all their objections were met, and that may happen again.
@@moddel I can see, how this is really frustrating for you and your team, but I can also see, that this is such a big claim, that it really is very hard to accept. You're research on other phenomena, that are considered fringe science, might of course also incite skepticism, but I believe in trusting people, until proven right or wrong, even when I might not share their views on other topics. You will receive a strong headwind, just like anyone or anything that threatens entire industries (especially in the energy sector), but of course I still hope for the best. After studying your papers for a bit, I now have a few questions, that I'd like to have more conclusive answers on, than I could get out of your publications.
1. Could you use another electrode material instead of nickel for the base electrode to change the current? In your model the current has to tunnel from the base electrode through the insulator, so the nickel electrode would be the decider for how much current can flow. Maybe one could change the material or use different grid structures to increase the current?
2. How did you decide on the error bars of your measurement devices? I know, you used a high precision Keithley 2612 source meter. But in the manual for that device, it says, it's error bar for current measurement is at least around 100nA, only the Model 2635 source meter has better precision, and for your voltage measurement you used a HP 3478A digital multimeter. Can you really be sure, that your error bars are correct? I just want to make sure. Believing your supplement materials, current should be in the 100 pA error range, so if that's true, all good. The scaling with area and array size seems to suggest, your measurements are precise and the effect is real. Still, it would be nice to know more about measurement accuracy or to have way bigger devices, so these doubts can be eliminated.
3. There are nano-piezoelectric devices (ZnO nanowires between two electrodes under ultrasound) with a theoretical power output of 1 W/cm³. I don't think piezoelectricity could be the whole explanation, but it is peculiar, that you used a silica dielectric, which is used for piezoelectric generators and only after putting in the dielectric, the offset current was measured. In the paper it is said, that the current can only flow between base and palladium electrode because of the high dielectric resistance. But is it possible, that a voltage inside the dielectric could have an effect on the electron density distribution in the palladium electrode right next to it ensuring a higher probability of electrons tunneling from nickel to palladium instead of palladium to nickel?
Btw I do believe the current is caused by hot carrier electrons excited by quantum fluctuations, I'm just playing with ideas for even slightly possible alternative explanations, that weren't discussed in your papers. I have to admit, it's very hard to find some.
This will never combat climate change. We are talking about nano currents. Also, the device doesn't work. But if you aren't a physicist you won't understand it.
Particularly consider Casimir Cavity as the source of Magnetic attraction/repulsion? ZPE cavity would explain a whole lot about this fascinating stuff magnetism.
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A video that digs more deeply into the issues raised was just posted: ua-cam.com/video/GmLsF5yEd9o/v-deo.html The first part in the new video is largely a summary of the Unlocking video, with a few additions. The new material starts at 23 minutes into the video.
@@moddel Thanks! And other labs have started to try to replicate your work, that's great! I do have a question about your "Thermal Model" outlined at 37:23. You state that this model would obey the first law, but violate the second law. That would be true if the "volume" of the overall system remains fixed, but could it be that the "cooling" of the environment is achieved via a local expansion of spacetime? I know it sounds crazy, but it reminds me on the cooling of the CMB, only in reverse I guess... Those photons "cooled" from 3000K to 2.73K without transferring any of their energy to any physical entity. The CMB photons' cooling comes entirely from the expansion of the universe (at least that's my understanding). So, in your proposed Thermal Model, if these devices are causing an expansion of spacetime in their immediate vicinity while they are extracting ZPE energy, then this would stretch the wavelength of the surrounding radiation and the violation of the 2nd law would be circumvented (I guess, in a way, the device would be converting time (the remaining lifetime of the universe) into usable energy and thereby accelerating the overall expansion and heat death of the universe). Perhaps this could even be tested by shining a laser beam past the cavity while it is extracting ZPE to see if the wavelength changes while the cavity is producing current?
Then again, I guess that would mean the device could also be used to build a "warp" drive... perhaps that's a bridge to far.
Interesting bit a little after 27 minutes where Dr. Mike McCulloch says that his Quantized Inertia predicts (approximately) your observations. ua-cam.com/video/82PnulUlSSo/v-deo.html
Gosh, I haven't heard from McCulloch in forever! Almost forgot about him...
A warp drive cannot exist. You cannot warp a mathematical construct. Spacetime continuum is a construct of math. It's not a physical reality.
What is the next step for this technology going forward? Could it be independently verified by a trusted third party? Could a fool-proof demonstration device be constructed that powers something like an LED?
Both of those are exactly the plan. Stay tuned.
@@moddel What would be the best way to stay up to date with your research and results?
@@Idonai Here's the zero-point energy page on my lab website: ecee.colorado.edu/~moddel/QEL/ZPE.html. The location might be changed in the future, in which case you'll be able to find it through my department page here: www.colorado.edu/ecee/garret-moddel. Thanks for your interest.
Posted three years ago; what has transpired? Have you patented it? Seems you could include a working model...
I'm seeing this 3 years past posting...wondering if there were any updates.....or big oil & gas have already nulled the research (and maybe the scientist).
Is it possible to upload a video showcasing your devices directly (the existing ones)? I think video evidence of a measured current and to see your equipment and the devices in your laboratory would be of interest to a lot of people and reduce skepticism about your claims by a lot. Maybe I could even convince people at my university to look into this and replicate it.
Think of it this way : The "boiling space" is effectively a sea with a universal breeze over it. There is an average wave height and peaks and troughs. Tell me that wave energy can not gain peaks and troughs !
Has there been any movement on this project since 2021, are you still alive or did you die of a mysterious death with no suspects?
Great explanation of the Casimir effect. My guess is that nanotechnology will in the future be able to use the Casimir force to generate energy instead of just dealing with the problem of trying to eliminate the effect. Even the laboratory device Dr. Moddel presented looks promising considering what an industrial manufacturing of such devices could produce.
This is nonsense. There is absolutely no way of exploiting the Casimir effect. Separating and moving the plates will take more energy than you get out.
@@rogerphelps9939 I was thinking that on the nano scale it may be possible to overcome friction and for example construct perpetual oscillators, but yes it's just my amateur speculation, it could very well be impossible even on the nano scale.
@@Anders01 That already exists. It is not a big deal. These system can't change the state.
Also, I hate people who think we should care about their inventions. It is on you to show that we should care. If you work with nano currents, you will miss so many mistakes.
The device he showed is already flawed. His device is not in equilibirium, but he doesn't follow all the energies. His device changes the amount of charges on both sides. This will change the voltage. And when he removes charges, you will spend energy (which will balance the energy sheet).
Great video - I’d love to see a detailed description of the equipment and apparatus you used for your zero point experiment. you would have a HUGE following if you made more content.
The details are all in the paper published in Symmetry, listed in the description of the video.
Harnessing quantum fluctuations is the key. If you look at the experiments of the "Star in a jar", you will see that the energy that is produced is huge and the so-called "fluctuations" are actually the oscillations as the particles implode and explode (within a field). This is where the Electrons at the zero point, change through Thermo-dynamic entropy, to Protons. The Zero point is the field which is created, called a Neutron. This is also the same as in a black hole, which the Atom is a microcosm of this.
The 2D model for this as a clue is the Yin Yang in 3D. It is a Toroidal field, that displays the paths of the Electrons and Protons, that spiral into the center(Vortices) where Zero point energy happens. The idea that equilibrium does not support flow in the case of the Atom is incorrect as the Electrons and Protons are in a constant state of motion or flow. I believe this is what Tesla and others knew. Look at the Wardenclyffe tower-it is a torus, sitting atop a vortex. If you emulate the structure of something - i.e. an Atom, you can harness its power.
I hooked into the excitement of various chemical reactions in a quest for ionic fluids and did a series of salt based chemical reactions and after a number of failures I saw something happen one day .. In a round glass tank of hydrogen peroxide at a low percentage with a flat bottom I dropped a product from a series of the most promising salt based reactions that I had done into the center of this tank where I had a small pile of a reactive component waiting where it immediately produced a very small scale controlled explosion that spread out semetricly into a circle of what looked like sparkling diamonds . It was a very nice surprise ,, I produced a reactor vessel with two grids made from silver solder and with one slightly smaller than the other set closely together connected to a multi meter set to read DC voltage as I had planned to use this ionic fluid as an electrolyte. I poured the fluid in and the voltage quickly rose to nearly twelve volts before it began to slow down and I could see that it was producing dendrites or something so quickly that it filled up at the bottom of the grid and was slowly shorting the bottom of the grid out . I started producing another reactor vessel so that I could deal with the bi product and decided that I could work with what I thought resembled a flow battery and just poured my ionic fluid into a container and left it sitting as it was that winter was over and I had to make use of the weather and get my sailing vessel underway and sail it to a more desirable location before winter comes around again. After several months I returned home and realized I had left my ionic fluid sitting in an open container and it had grown into crystals but what I had expected to be a type of perchlorate more closely resembles potassium nitrate crystals .. At the same time I was doing that experiment I was working with high speed switching in a resonant circuit with a 27000mhz quartz crystal to provide the swing that could be scaled up to power a larger coil that I could tune and experiment with scalar waves as opposed to the steam powered device that Tesla created to produce the swing for one of his coils . I had an almost dead nine volt battery that was still producing six volts and expected it would be enough for a test to power the LEDs and compensate for the resistance I had in the circuit. This produced what I believe must be a resonance cascade because it produced enough DC voltage to destroy the LEDs and I wasn't sure what else but It would appear that I got more than I bargained for even if I didn't get something for nothing ....
Awesome presentation and well explained. 👍What hinders you to make a big Prototyp to find investors and to get it into large production? The technology is already used for micro electronics production and therefore you could produce it in large quantities already. What do you need to do so?
Better fabrication facilities and more personnel.
Professor Moddel- are you in need of funding? Thanks for sharing with us - excellent explanation
Your ambient measurement wasn't subject to even a few nanoamps? Can you explain that? What was the measurement setup? Whzt was each volt,amp sample in the first fitted scatter plot? Did you use a superconductor? You claim there is less energy in the Casimir cavity. Had that been confirmed? Isn't is possible that the fewer low frequancy modes are offset by more high frequency modes? Have you proposed a mechanism for the difference in modes mediating the electron flow? If so, is there a paper showing the math?
This sounds an awful lot like the Schottkey diode origin, and the Fermi level/barrier manipulation of metal/semiconductor doping.
Is this breaking 2nd law of Thermodynamics or is it just another way to harvest an energy gradient similar to any other harvesting method, ie hydro.
This result might be due to a gradient in the zero-point energy density, and may not violate the 2nd law,. This is discussed explicitly in the following-on presentation, which is available at ua-cam.com/video/z6_KKXTbTyg/v-deo.html The 2nd law discussion is about 29 minutes into the presentation.
Take the very basic crystal radio from the ground up and your basic antenna and put a Tesla coil in between them. The coil is hollow and gets highly charged air pumped and the ions pass through the coil to generate current. The ground and coil and antenna represent a transistor. And current flows through the transistor to a bridge rectifier to a capacitor hooked up in parallel to other capacitors. That’s a start for now.
What about heat pump. Heat pump capable to take ambient energy to house. Heat pumps can achieve COP of 4, does it violate 2nd law of thermodinimics?
No heat pump is just a reversible vapor compression cycle. Just moving heat energy from a controlled space to somewhere less objectionable
Is it wishful thinking to believe that a hobbyist scientist, or an amateur scientist, or an interested layperson might make one of these devices?
What are the hurdles a dedicated but cash-strapped person would have to overcome?
Can anyone answer about needed minimum equipment and materials? Or reasonable substitutions?
Thanks in advance. Best wishes for all, for you, and for yours.
At this point, unfortunately, it's not something that a hobbyist can make. The reasons include that the individual devices require submicron fabrication techniques, and the insulator interfaces are extremely sensitive. Our intention is to find ways to avoid those constraints in the future, to make the devices easily manufacturable.
@@moddel Thank you. Are you aware of the LEC device? It seems similar. ua-cam.com/video/J4dzTWY_aWM/v-deo.html
@@moddel I think you would be able to interest the energy industry if you would manufacture a bigger number of these devices in parallel and let it run consistently with the same output for a long time, in theory for ever... then you would not have to prove anything.
@@anyC From what I can see, the LEC is different, but maybe at some point we'll see an overlap if various technologies.
@@tpsven3397 Yes, many parallel devices. At a University lab with just a few researchers, unfortunately that takes a while to accomplish.
How much money/resources is needed to create a small 1.5V / 50 mA battery prototype?
A couple of $million for the first one, and then a few dollars after that.
@@moddel Why that much for the first one?
I watched a youtuber that replicates integrated circuits in his home, I guess process should be not more complicated than standard silicon lithography?.
@@aleksandar7393 I'd like to know as well.
I hope to hear more about this in the future!
Will there be an update video on this channel, once the prototype powering an LED is done? How's the progress going?
Our research papers and talks are listed here (to be updated in the future): www.colorado.edu/faculty/moddel/research/zero-point-energy-technology . An update to this talk is at ua-cam.com/video/z6_KKXTbTyg/v-deo.html . The new stuff starts about halfway through.
is there any temperature dependence of the effect? does the device produce heat? has it been into a calorimeter?
If you consider the infrared electromagnetic waves given off inside a container like a mumetal (or other) box, you have terahertz electromagnetic waves inside the container.
While the box will block out visible light frequencies, you still have terahertz waves striking the device inside the box.
I am wondering if they have considered photoconductivity, or even photoemission, the photoelectric effect. Terahertz electromagnetic waves striking a device can create measurable results.
How do we know that? The idea might be that "normally, terahertz frequencies would not create current and voltage"
Actually, a device can be constructed to make use of incoming terahertz electromagnetic waves (infrared).
Night vision goggles for example.
Just to be clear, I admire their work. In the list of tests called out as trying to explain the outcomes, I did not hear the issue of terahertz frequency emission discussed.
It would worth considering tests for the photoconductive effect.
(If you consult Wien's Displacement Law, the formula for calculating wavelength and thus frequency from temperature is: Wavelength = b/T, where
b is Wien's displacement constant
T is temperature.
You can convert room temp to approx. 21 degrees celsius, or 294 degrees Kelvin, and b = 0.0029, then convert the wavelength to frequency. Alternatively, look up "electromagnetic spectrum" on wiki to get the infrared frequency spectrum)
@@Greg_Chase But how is it, that a current was only measured, when a Casimir Cavity was placed behind the metal-insulator-metal diode and scaled inversely with the thickness of the Casimir cavity? If it was just the photoconductivity, shouldn't there also be a current without the Casimir cavity? And if we go with the hypothesis, that it's somehow photoconductivity from the Casimir cavity, wouldn't we expect the current to scale with cavity size instead of scaling inversely with the size? I think, your hypothesis should be tested, but my guess would be, that it's not photoconductivity.
@@light8258 There is a fatal flaw in the entire underpinning of the "zero point fluctuations" as presently treated. "Electrons and positrons briefly pop into existence, and then self-annihilate." Unless you have a demonstrably provable model of the *_exact physical nature_* of the real constituents of the quantum Vacuum, the workings/explanation of the Casimir effect are not on a firm foundation.
It is claimed that the space gap between the atoms in two separated, but closely-spaced plates is tiny enough to create a 'pressure difference' of higher pressure 'zero point fluctuations' or 'zero point energy' on the opposite outer sides of the two plates, and a lower 'pressure' in the tiny space gap between the plates due to the exclusion of some portion of the quantum fluctuations.
What is the conventional explanation of zero point energy? Quantum fluctuations. "Electron-positron pairs pop into existence briefly then quickly self-annihilate."
Are we relying on that as the source of the pressure difference that is created in the Casimir effect of closely-spaced plates? Yes, indeed, that is the claimed physical nature as to why the two plates come together.
There is a fatal flaw with this.
1) relying on the actual, physical existence of the quantum fluctuations to force the two plates together is REQUIRED to explain the Casimir effect
2) so if you ask someone in the field who believes the Casimir effect to be correctly explained "do the quantum fluctuations that lead to the Casimir effect have a physical existence?" they will answer "Yes"
And that is the fatal flaw. Because - it is well known, and has been known for decades from lab experiments, that when a physically real electron and positron annihilate, gamma rays are produced.
So the underpinnings of the Casimir effect should lead to a quantum vacuum filled with a gamma ray background. And there is none.
So my point is, I would like to see more rigor vis-a-vis the nailing down of the *_exact physical nature_* of the true constituents of the quantum vacuum. I do not think the Casimir effect rests on a solid physical foundation.
When I have discussed this issue, I get a wishy-washy response very frequently, as in "the quantum vacuum fluctuations do not have a real, physical manifestation, they are purely mathematical" and yet "but even though they are purely mathematical, they can manifest a vacuum 'pressure differential' that can push two plates together in the Casimir effect."
One suggestion I've heard is "there is no gamma ray background perhaps because the particle-antiparticle pairs don't actually self-annihilate - they are persistent, they exist and are long-lived in the Vacuum. And we do not detect them because the particle and antiparticle spins are opposite and cancel."
@@Greg_Chase Well, I'm only a student in physics, and I haven't read much about the Casimir effect yet, but intend to do so, when I have some time on my hands, so maybe I can give you a more satisfying answer in a couple of months. What I can say for now, is that Robert Jaffe has proposed a different way to derive the Casimir effect without quantum fluctuations, so the Casimir effect shouldn't be used, to justify the existence of virtual particles. Virtual particles are indeed a mathematical tool, that led to the most precise predictions in physics ever. Because it's so accurate, physicists sometimes forget, that it's still just a mathematical tool. Virtual particles violate conservation of energy and can have infinite velocities. That's why they don't produce gamma-rays. For example, when you try to calculate the effects of quantum fluactuations on an actual electron, you'd theoretically need to sum over infinite variations of virtual particles. If all these would produce gamma radiation, there would be infinite gamma radiation everywhere.
Also I've read somewhere that the Casimir effect can be described as relativistic van-der Waals forces, but I'd have to look deeper into this, to see if that is a better way to explain it, than virtual particles.
@@light8258 I work with a small group and we developed a speculative physical model of what the constituents of the Vacuum might be.
We needed that because we developed a coherent acceleration device that utilizes electromagnetic acoustic resonance (EMAR), operating at extremely high frequencies, to create coherent accelerations of particles in laminations (layers) of very thin slices of materials (metals, bismuth, etc).
The workaday world uses a similar idea for non-destructive testing - the devices are called 'EMAT' - electromagnetic acoustic transducers. They deploy the Lorentz force to create acoustic waves inside metal objects.
We needed to create a speculative physical model of what the constituents of the Vacuum might be in order to predict the coupling effects of the coherent accelerations of the charged particles in our test devices with the constituents of the Vacuum.
So we sort of walked away from the 'virtual particles' idea a while back. Either they're real, or they're just math, and if they're just math, the physical 'something' that motivated their need to exist is not rigorous yet, and not useful to us.
Our devices seek to increase the gravity field of an object - after Cavendish demonstrated, in the year 1798, that all collections of atoms (all objects of matter) possess their own gravity field, we're in a deep dive, by means of extreme coherent accelerations of charged particles, to alter the gravity field produced by an 'active' test object.
If a large collection of randomly-oriented accelerations in the atoms of rock, dirt, and water (a planet) can create gravity, a more orderly preparation of those accelerations might create an observable effect.
barrowing zero point energy to generate electricity is my project. hard to explain how i am working on doing it other than using zero point energy as the fuel to turn the generator. though it would need conventional starting but once up to operating rotation speed zero point energy takes over. it is great so many people are working on these projects.
Can you explain how you are doing it?
so true about the blindness of some scientists to reject anything not already described - totally shuts down new innovation. also, very clear and common sense explanation, very well presented, very much appreciate you sharing this information.
This is nothing short of amazing. Well done. I think personally that people should get on board and invest in this great invention. I think a great way to go, would be, power a device with this tech and show the world that this works. I have no idea how much this would cost, forgive my ignorance, if this is very expensive. Who could dispute it then. Without people like you where would we be. I hope you get the recognition and investment that i believe this deserves. Thank you.
Just re-watched this, and a question that comes to my mind is: What happens to the zero point energy field if you are using a very large version of this device?
If you take enough energy from the zero point field, would that cause a flow in the surrounding field, and what happens when you have a flowing zero point field?
A basic quantum mechanical model views zero-point energy as being a fixture of space. By that model, when you remove the zero-point energy from a particular volume of space, the zero-point energy that remains in that volume does not change. That model would seem to contradict conservation of energy, the first law of thermodynamics. According to another model, stochastic electrodynamics, zero-point fluctuations are real electromagnetic fluctuations, and when you harvest them that volume of space needs to be filled in by energy flowing in from elsewhere. Another model, which I'm calling the thermal model, is that the zero-point energy fluctuations are fed by thermal fluctuations ultimately, which would mean that when you harvest the zero-point energy, that volume becomes cooler. That would violate the second law of thermodynamics. So… different people would answer the question differently. This is described about halfway through a more recent video that is posted here: ua-cam.com/video/z6_KKXTbTyg/v-deo.html
The only theoretical problem is, this quantum tunneling device is not a Casimir cavity. But it works anyway, because quantum tunnelling itself is in non-equilibrium with ZPE. Now, Tesla and Moray discovered ‘overunity cosmic energy’ devices based on Fowler Nordheim quantum tunneling, that had output of 50 KWatt. The Born rule is invalid for quantum tunneling (which was already expressed by Gamov’s original theory about quantum tunneling, overruled by Max Born). Antony Valentini also described non-equilibrium qm statistics that violate Born’s rule, but he did not yet discover that quantum tunneling does the trick. This effect can be optimized and on a big scale. Goodluck, and keep up the good work, excellent presentation, and excellent thinking.
Thanks for your comments. I'm hoping to attract a quantum theorist familiar with Casimir physics to help develop a full theory of operation.
@@moddel An excellent presentation on the Casimir effect: ua-cam.com/video/12yjbyunRdM/v-deo.html by Peter Milonni.
It does not answer the question how conduction electrons are influenced by the Casimir force. First of all: is this force a conserved force or not? Imho, zpe extraction/conversion is not necessarily a Casimir force effect.
Did he miss checking the galvanic interaction of those various metals and oxides? Ni is short 2 electrons in 3d and Pd has a full 3d and 4d shell, with loosely bound electrons. There could be a probability current for electrons to be given up by Pd to Ni, I think.
That's a legitimate concern. We carried out several experiments that test for it, as described the Symmetry paper (with link given in "Show More" under the video). In particular, Figure 6 shows that the current continues indefinitely (we've extended it much longer than the 4 hours shown), which indicates that it's not a chemical reaction that is getting used up. Also, the output varies with the cavity width, shown in Figure 4a&b, and with the addition of the mirror, shown in Figure 8; those variations wouldn't be the case if the response were due to a galvanic interaction, which would be the same independent of cavity thickness and mirror.
@@moddel Good answer. Thanks!
Thanks so much for this. Been working on something with anomalous results. This helped.
Mind if I ask what?
The dejavu…. I encourage everyone to see “The Lost Century” documentary!
Instructions for homemade device?
I wish! Our devices are made in highly controlled lab conditions. Maybe someday we'll figure out a lower-tech way to make them.
Further to my last email, have you considered contamination of the dielectric in the casimir cavity with radioactive isotopes? This would be a bit like the beta-voltaic devices in the news recently. Presumably each beta electron would release many hole-electron pairs in the diode. The Betavolt company claims 100uW at 3V. This is 30uA. You only need to account for 30nA. However this would still be a high concentration of the beta emitter
This is also a legitimate point. Last year I looked into whether we might inadvertently have radioactive nickel, but the incidence is too low to give the currents we're seeing.