Turbulent’s 5 kW Vortex Turbine in France!
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Earlier this year, Turbulent took on its first installation on the French territory, a 5 kW vortex turbine powered by the outflow of Suez’s water treatment plant in Versailles.
In this video, you will get to see the actual site, along with the running turbine, and an animation detailing the process that went into building this project. Green, reliable and renewable energy for decades!
Want to join the movement? Reach out to us on www.turbulent.be!
Big fan of these simple and friendly hydro installations!
Cool
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Aside from roof solar, this would work really well for remote communities that lack the necessary infrastructure to connect themselves to our main grids. We need more of these distributed power generation ideas.
The WEF does not want solutions... It is now 2023 and there is little penetration. Also, Bitcoin miners could be installed to increase the ROI>
It's a little more complicated when it comes to distribution because you have to make sure the sine wave phases match between different generators.
How would this work in winter? lets say it is minus 10, minus 15 outside, the ice would most lilely build up around the turbine, maybe even damageing it, no?
Amazing engineering. Great job to the whole Turbulent team!
Yet another threat to America's Big Energy Corporations. Bravo.
Who cares about America? Only Americans blabbing about America
Why would they care? Most people don't have that much water flowing in their backyard.
@@dougydoolittle5255 Why wouldnt you care about America. You realize the whole world depends on America right?
We need a lot more micro hydro everywhere, could have a real impact. Solar is 4 to 6 hours a day, wind is sporadic in most locations, a good source of water goes 24/7. A 5kw system running 24 hours a day produces a 120 kw a day. The average american home uses 30 kw a day, that's 4 American homes, and Turbulent's usual minimum install is 15 kw, that's 360 kw a day, that's 12 homes. I figure a 15 kw install at about $75,000 divided by 12 homes is $6,250 per household. That's way cheaper than solar or wind... Throw in a several thousand dollar rebate from the state and federal government for alternative energy and you would have the system paid off in several years and be saving a lot of money......
well said a lot of people on here are forgetting its a 24 hour system with batteries and inverters for your house and the rest is sold back to the grid
great system should be gov grants for this
I'd love to be part of a community project which puts one of these in. I'll be sharing with York Community Energy.
This is beautiful and amazing to see a successful installation! I am curious as to why these engineers, have yet to install a closed system.
Due to inefficiency losses, the electricity generated by water flowind from higher to lower elevation is less than the electricity than is needed to pump the water from lower to higher elevation, or it would be a perpetual motion machine.
Whatever happened to the hummingbird generator that allegedly generated five times it's input electricity?
@@YouAskedForThis563 The only power required in a closed system would be the initial thrust in a properly designed closed system utilizing the density and viscosity of water.
@@ClubOceanBlue22
It has been tried and failed.
Go do the reading before flapping you gums.
What a great way to have debris free water for the turbine. If you setup enough of them the plant would need zero energy to operate. If any excess power generated could go back into the power grid...great idea.
Actually a really stupid idea. You don't have enough flow or enough change in elevation to come anywhere near producing enough power to run the machinery in a wastewater treatment plant.
You people in the green cult think you're all full of good intentions, but the problem is you don't even begin to understand basic physics or engineering
@@joecummings1260 hmmm but there are a so many ranches and homes around the world in rural areas that have 3 hydro turbines going down the rivers that are connected close by. If you have the money to invest and the head weight, hight, flow etc it is very possible. Countries that have perfect terrain for this are Newzealand, Philippines, Brazil, PNG, Ireland and Scotland and alot of England. All of whom have rural communities that run on these sorts of turbines.
Speaking from A NewZealand prospective, One 100kw Micro Hydroelectric Plant can power a small town. 3 Can power a medium sized rural town. Cooking and water heating is done by gas butane tanks that replenished every 3months and the country is abundant of the resource. Also NZ power consumption is 75% green and eco friendly. The other 25% is coal. Japan, Some Countries in The UK, and most of the common wealth Countries are on the same track also.
you're amazing team.... i hope someday my turn to make a world a batter place
Very cool!
very nice works. Good luck
Bravo !!!
I'm all for renewable energy but this seems inefficient. The amount of height lost by water falling from the turbine output into the river below and falling from the pipe up top into the reservoir compartment. Looks like you could have got twice the head and therefore twice the power output.
That's correct and we agree that there's head lost that way. What we had to take into account was that the outflow had to be free outflow for the WWTP because otherwise we would impact their outflow sensors. We also were not allowed to install outside of the box because otherwise we would have installed it lower into the river to also recuperate that energy. Permits are complex in France
@@TurbulentHydro
What about vortex formation in the turbine intake? I've heard that is bad for efficiency.
@@meyou-mk3qz lol you seem a bit winy for someone complaining about complainers 🤣
Awesome 👏
i'm french so i'm happy but we need more whats the cost ?
Hi, the costs of our turbines can be found on our website :) Over here: www.turbulent.be/pricing
@@pizdaxyu The graph on the website they have linked to shows a cost of ~€25,000 for the 5kw model shown in the video.
@@pizdaxyu If you look closely at the graph you can see that it's the opposite. If you read it in terms of cost of produced electricity we range from 0.03 to 0.08EUR/kWh. If you're living in Europe you're paying anything between 0.15 and 0.35EUR/kWh for energy from the grid.
@@TurbulentHydro
Isn't there a lot of head loss between the turbine and the level of the water intake? Also, I thought vortex formation is very bad and energy-sapping. I have seen people install baffles to stop vortices from forming in the turbine intake.
@@gregorymalchuk272 but this is designed to work with vortex
Personally I love the design and application but to go to all that trouble for 5kw is disappointing.. something that big and with that much concrete I would expect minimum 15kw minimum, something like that
Probably flow rate was not enough for 15kw generator. 5kw is very well amount of power given area required compared to solar panels. I would suggest you to look at 15kw. It is massive compared to this.
I agree that 5kw is not a lot but it is a lot better than nothing! We have to start somewhere and why not tap into existing water sources and utilize it to the best ability we can. We can only get better. I am super impressed with this ingenuity 👍🤩!
A scaled down Hydro dam.
No variable pitch blades though....
That sounds like an invention for you to start on!
Newb question, would a golden spiral increase the pressure on the fan during times when it might have less water to work with?
Hydroelectrcity... Is indeed the energy of the fututre!
Well its not couse water sonát ve here for ever
Cant they just stack this kind of thing like 50 times down the save river?
I wouldn't see why you couldn't.
Yep, thats one of their selling points
i bet there gets to be a point where just having the same fall but with a long penstock becomes more efficient.
Yep. You can either dot them along the river, or build one long culvert full of these turbines.
I thought one this size would produce more than 5.5KW. Their 70KW models must be huge.I doubt the small river behind my house is suitable anymore unfortunately
In Indonesian average house use 450W, so it make sense
Also, when people see memes, they will have "kwkwkwkw"
We call it "wkwkwk land"
Video: "Enough to power 10 houses..."
Me: 5kW won't run my heat pump.
Yeah I noticed that too. I use 7,500 Kwh per year roughly in my appartment of 1,200 sq/ft. I have a heat heat pump, and have a decently cold winter where I live
@@colinu6718 - I have 7 in my family with 2100sq-ft. Our YTD usage was nearly 12kw/hrs last month.
@@colinu6718 Americans use way more energy than Europeans
Look at the wasted head, dropped the water 2/3rds the way down without using it....
May I ask what do you mean by the wasted head?
In an earlier comment they explained it was because of permitting-and also to keep from breaking output sensors on the plant they were attached to
In the United States, that installation would have taken 3 years of "environmental and impact studies", at least 1 year to build, at least 8 months to repair, at least 6 months to resolve contractor and government lawsuits, and cost $3 billion US dollars. Somehow it would have broken down after 4 months in operation costing $30 million US dollars to repair. Then they would have had to remove the generator and the site would have never generated electricity ever again. That's current day USA.
No it's not
Did this happen in real it seems too detailed can i have a link please?
I would like to see a commercial representative in Brazil, so I can install a turbine like this.
Awesome my friends! Is that possible to put double or triple generators at different levels for more power harvest?!
By that that point there’s not enough potential energy in the water to make the turbine do it’s thing. This can work with as little as 2 meter height differences. Making the water flow from high to low all the way adds more energy to the water and in turn generates more electricity
Yes, can be good then solar as it generates 24/7 electricity. And can be installed many places where we can get continuous follow.😃
Ne serait-il pas préférable d'installer une conduite forcée avec une turbine au bout, afin de profiter de toute l'énergie potentielle ? (𝑾𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅𝒏'𝒕 𝒊𝒕 𝒃𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒐 𝒊𝒏𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒂 𝒑𝒆𝒏𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒄𝒌 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒂 𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒃𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒆𝒏𝒅, 𝒊𝒏 𝒐𝒓𝒅𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒂𝒌𝒆 𝒂𝒅𝒗𝒂𝒏𝒕𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒐𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝒆𝒏𝒆𝒓𝒈𝒚?)
Dans les Hautes Pyrénées il y a plein de cours d'eau qui pourraient débiter du courant. Je pense au plateau de Lannemezan, notamment autour du golf.
true free energy
If the water is already piped wouldn’t € ram pump generated more electricity? Cost issues?
Very cool technic 👍
It’s not a bad idea just like maybe for powering led road lamps and public infrastructure with battery banks or something. A good toaster will pull 1.3kw
5kwH is still 120 kw a day, the average American household uses 30, and Europeans use 15. So that's 4-8 houses off of that small thing, runs 24/7 so add a battery bank and it doesn't matter how much power a toaster pulls as it will just pull power from the batteries that can endure that big load, and they'll get topped off again in no time
Now if we can get 25KW out of that, 5KW is good for a couple RV's at most, or just a lot of lighting.
The small turbines, depending on implementation, are good up to around 70kW.
If you need more, you have two options
Upsize to their larger turbine, which is good up to 200kW.
Or daisy-chain multiple turbines together.
If your camper pulls 5000 watts per hr ypu need to sell that garbage camper and upgrade
@brandonjames6797 5000 watts is good for "a couple RV's"... This indicates two RV's. As for usage, it depends on how many and the size of A/C units you have installed, plus any other aux power consumers, has nothing to do with age.
@@mythril4as for usage, the ampere would be the determining unit. 5 kW is only a small part of the information needed. What is the voltage output and amperage? From here we could step-up or step-down via transformers, if necessary.
Very good 👍👍👍👍❤️
i wonder what the cost is
Here is a question, why can't all of the water treatment facilities in the world rock one or many of these?
i need some help about the cost and installation of vortex turbine,can you help me ,please
Nice thing is...it's not a high head unit...it can be built on the flow of a river or stream or use waste water that would normally just flow out.
Seems like a lot of water is needed for very little power generation.
How does the efficiency of the installations scale up?
This would be perfect for my backyard and help keep my neighborhood open with no one selling out like I’m starting to see
I live in South Carolina if you lived here your whole life or at least the past 25 years you would know the power bill has gone up because of nuclear power deals going bad and not being finished plus President Biden radical actions yeah the price is going to keep rising
How much is this after taxes
If every state had taxes like mine our country would have a surplus of money
If you owned something you have to pay taxes on it every year just to own if you don’t you lose it to the state
MERCI VICKTOR SCHAUBERGER
Great job. What should be the minimum flow rate in order to get 5kW ?
Depends on the head…..
Would this work say by pulling water from the ground
@@TheCaspiano Potentially yes but again you need a difference in water levels to get power from water. Meaning intake needs to be higher than outflow. And with small flow rate (couple liters a second) you need a decent head to make any usable power. For example for 2 liters a second and 10 meter head only makes about 100 watts. There are calculators for this online.
@@Mike-kr5dn what if we used a solar pump as a starter and a water tank with.
We could utilize the water for irrigation.
The solar would generate the water
I am trying to get water power by using underground water well
nice, I thought you could get more energy by placing turbine lower and reservoar higher
Just a guess. Shorter might promote a c shape instead of an L when the water falls. Would move faster I'd imagine
I think the basin was used to make the outflow less harsh before and they just dropped in a turbine now. so you could make it better or add a second turbine at a higher level but that would ad cost that no one was willing to pay
Edit: t.h. said on another comment that it was for one the outflow sensors of the plant and two permissions to build outsid ethe box that were to hard to get
The idea is that the water makes a vortex not an fall
Interesting choice of music. What's the name of
Outward floor turbine is good
Странно вы строите. Вроде бы продвинутые строители, а высоту падения воды, около метра, пропустили, скорость потока не используете, бетона влили в 4 раза больше, чем нужно...
How much does it cost
5kw is nice but how many amps and at what voltage?
Que precio tiene una de estas turbinas??
Please bring this to the Philippines
Amayizing
France mixing nuclear + hydro, good move.
Oui, meme si on a deja fermé des centrales nucléaires qui auraient pu continuer a fonctionner pendant des années. Et que les EPR de Flamanville n'est pas encore en route.
Especially nuclear politicians nowadays need to realise nuclear power is the way of the future
@@BOMBER404 true
@@BOMBER404 I don’t think fission is a long term solution and fusion is far from working, in the end, like 100 years from now, as soon as we reasonably can, we should get rid of nuclear plants. But for the next 50 to 70 years at least nuclear is the solution because it’s cost effective flexible eco friendly and doesn’t take up acres and acres of land
@@francoisunger6466 Fission is a long term solution. You're just incredibly ignorant.
Fission as a technology has become efficient and less wasteful than the bygone years of its formation. There are different types of fission as well as developing means to further use and reduce the half life of nuclear waste.
We don't live in the 50's or 60's any longer. Nuclear has come a long way.
Bonjour,toute les centrales hydroélectriques devrait être modernisé ou remise en état méme celle non rentables mais rentable pour l'environnement arrêtée avec l' éolien
But...that's a small civil engineering project for a mere 5kw. How can that possibly be cost effective? Or is it intended for remote communities which aren't connected to the local grid?
You’re slowing down the water.
5,5kW is not enough for 10 modern house
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l’eau courante est de l’eau potable distribuée par un réseau de canalisations…
donc non, cette turbine n’utilise pas d’eau courante
Whats the smallest size you build of these? And what size is still ok for fish to pass?
I am looking for a turbine to suit 2.5m head and 600L/sec , do you have anything for that? I was hoping for 10kw.
What happens in a drought?
Hi hello do we have a synchronomize box to sell to the grid or power utility just like as solar power..
How much is it, the 5kW machine?
Gd day...i have been trying to contact turbulent since last week.
Pourquoi on installe pas ça partout en France ?
Yes, really cool and all but 5 kW is nothing comèared to the power consupmtion of a water treatment plant off that size. Apart from that; what average European house do you power with 500 Watt?
A 5kW generator is outputting ~120kW a day. All day, every day.
Over 10 homes, that's 12kW a day. More than most residential solar setups produce.
That's enough to keep your average AMERICAN home lit with a 20% safety margin.
In France, the consumption's MUCH lower.
@@PhotonHerald I'm sorry but your math is off. How do you pretend to cook your meal or do the laundry with 500 W? Do you even think before writing? In UK they had to build special power plants of extreme dimensions to accomodate the tea time power spikes and you are talking about day-long medium consumes? Apart from all af this a 5 kW turbine like that produces about 120 kWh of energy a day which is about 30 to 40 €. A setup like that might cost 10 k€ to build which leads to at least 250 days to repay. A water treatment plant like the one in the video consumes between 150 to 500 kW which leads to, lets say, 5000 kWh a day or up to 1450 €. The result is a useless and worthless installation.
A turbine like that could charge a big battery pack to supply the number of homes they say but the battery would cost tens of thousands of Euros. It is a vicious circle that leads to nothing useful neither for us nor for the environment.
@@alessandrotorboli3782 Not watts. Watt-hours. Look at your power bill and look at your consumption in kilowatt-hours.
@@PhotonHerald Yes my love. That's the energy you use in a determined time stamp but the actual thing that produces work is POWER which is measured in Watt. To do the laundry or run the dishwasher (or oven or whatever) you need a total available power at least equal to the maximum consumption of that appliance. If you have 10 houses it is legit to say that at least every dishwasher and washing machine is run once a day. This means at least 20 hours a day are occupied with a 2 kW peak load. If every house does not communicate with the other then there might be an overload on the turbine which is not capable of delivering more than 5 kW if more than 2 high consumption appliances is run at the same time. Remember that apart from DW ad WM you have ovens, vacuums, electric stoves, boilers, hairdryers and so on which are not communicating between each other to accomodate the 5 kW allowance. You can't supply 10 modern day homes with 5 kW, it's impossible.
how much liter water goes in the turbine per hour?
How about trying it out in rural sub saharan Africa where there are many waters and hardly any possibility of government or commercially viable electricity generation
Ja fizeram alguma no Brasil? tenho interesse
Radial entry and axial discharge
The real hit here :
---- fish friendly (I know, in this case there is no fish)
--- noise friendly
How much cost? Build this plan?
Hola.
Cuantos hogares ..
Es capaz de abastecer????
Do you have any working model installed in India?
5 KW, oh wow. That's like enough to run one house provided you don't use air conditioning, electric heat, electric stove, or clothes dryer.
All and don't even in your wildest dreams think you're going to charge an electric car there.
Seems like there really is a sucker born every minute
and you don't wash yourself with warm water provided by a 5KW heater.
My 23 year old, 4 ton AC unit uses 4kW while cooling. With some decent energy storage and regulation, I'm sure you can power several smaller AC units on 5kW.
@@AkkerKid all that trouble and money spent to make 120 kilowatt hours of electrical power in a day. In my neck of the woods that's about 10 to $12 worth of electricity per day.
This is not enough power to power 10 homes 24/7. The average solar system is 5kw for a single home....
however, this sistem operates all day and was not designed for homes, also this system can me made much bigger and rooftop solar is only designed for rooftops
10 Kw for 24 hrs=240 Kw hrs, 5Kw (max) for 8 to 11 hrs (at best, unlikely due to panel to sun angle) 55 Kw hrs. less than a quarter of the output. 10 houses is optimistic, more like four but not at peak load
@@ginvr if you go for houses that dont heat or cool electricaly and have a gas stove it might work out and such houses are not uncommon even in developed countries like germany (gas heating, no one bothered installing ac yet for the 3-4 weeks of summer you nowadays get where you realy want it)
10 houses at 5kw?
Is there battery storage?
500 watts per household doesn't seem like much.
I agree, that math is off
I have, in my 25 square meters, enough appliances to draw 3.6kW ish. So 10 houses 24/7 is BS.
A washing machine easily draws over 1-2kW. Then other kitchen appliances like a fridge, coffeemachine, microwave. stove, oven, or whatever else you could think of easily draws up to 1kW. Lighting is negligible since the dawn of the LED so good on you for that. But with this a single household already draws over half of the system. Not to mention my PC which can, at max, draw 750 Watts (which it rarely reaches but that's not the point). So my household is already almost too much for a single one of these to handle. I would need additional help from other sources like solar or wind.
Other than this, it looks like a very good idea. Easily applicable all over the world with slight modifications to the landscape. It just needs to bee a little more powerful. Nuclear already achieves Gigawatts of power with ease, Kilowatts mean nothing compared to that. But as additional production or as backup it could be so lucrative. There is so much you could do with this. So by all means don't let me discourage you. If anything let it light a fire under your asses and improve what you already have. I am very optimistic.
Yes, but not all of these are on all the time right? If you have a normal grid connected house, the average power draw is 0.5kW. That means 12kWh per day. You can have heavier devices such as induction stoves, washing machines etc draw more power, but this is a peak and gets averaged over the whole day. Of course if you wanted to do this off grid, you need an additional battery pack to take care of the peaks. Always remember the difference between peak power and average power. Try keeping your washing machine on 24/7 for a week and notice how hot your room will get. Also notice how your washing machine is now probably broken.
Bet you are amaerican
@@justaguyfromreddit first off! American*
Second! Thanks?
Third, how so?
@@justaguyfromreddit you've got him ;)
US average is 25 kW/day. EU is 15 kW/day. This one makes 132 kW/day. Of course, you charge batteries at night. It provides for 10 French homes and 5 Americans.
Wait...I thought Suez water treatment plant was Australia company...
Oh, dangit! Did we install it in the wrong WWTP?
@@TurbulentHydro well, only you know the true😂, I doing Abit research about WWTP but didn't realize there origin😆.
So here one more question, can the turbine go commercial? I meant purely generate power for resell toward Gorvement,I know that turbulent had sign contract with a Malaysia local company but I don't get any reply at all..... If able to do so how many KWH vortex is preferred? Thanks you 🙏
How to contact You in the Philippines?
How much kw??
Maybe around 25000€-for this shown in Vid , so you need 500l/s and 1m fall differences to earn the 5kw
А чого мало генераторів
try sideways tesla screw turbine
How di purchase these.??
Are there any U.K. Installer’s?
Ten houses with 5kW turbine?! Make your maths again, please!
... 5kw 24/7 if you turn on the oven and the katle you consume may be 6kw but are you runing your katle 24/7 ? When you sleep or at work only the fridge and the TV box consume electricity maybe 2 or 300w do the math, if you know to calculate an average.
5kW is about 100kWh of electricity. Average european homes use about 15kWh per day. If these are smaller homes it is very much possible.
how can 5kw feed 10 houses? 500watts/house? leave the bs aside pls
... In average, the turbine produce 5kw 24/7 but you consume electricity at home with picks and down. 5.5X24/10 =13.2 kw a day time 30= 396 the last month me and my wife we consume 250 kw and we have an oven and a katle don't worry
On average my house consumes 1400Kwh per month and the stove/oven, water heater, and central home heaters are all on natural gas.
Im poor my house only has 440watts (220v*2amp) lmao
it produces 5kw every hour of operation, so, 5kw x 24hours = 120 kwh per day, yes, 10 houses at 12kwh per house per day,
@@shane6574 my central heating needs 14kw / hour and it works at least 10 hours a day ... Are we talking about houses or sheds?
Что за генератор ?
Does it produce 50kW per day? and can hold 10 houses? (Means that 5kW per house every day)
5 Kw is = to 40,000 kWh/year, according to one of their information sheets on their website
@@colinu6718 43,800 to be exact.
5.5 X 24 = 132 kW/day. In Europe they use 15 kW/day. Here, probably 13.2 kW.
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5.5 Kw enough to power 10 Houses 24/7?? Who wrote that crap and whom are they trying to kid?? 5.5 Kw would be lucky to power 10 Tents 24/7! I love the idea of MH but sure seems to take a LOT of water for the power it generates. Least with the right water supply it is constant but still very expensive compared to solar even with enough panels to generate the same Kwh over a 24hr period.
... In average, the turbine produce 5kw 24/7 but you consume electricity at home with picks and down. 5.5X24/10 =13.2 kw a day time 30= 396 the last month me and my wife we consume 280 kw and we have an oven and a katle don't worry
@@poulagaaa and you have gas or a wood fire as well for extra energy input.
I have electric only so in winter can use 60-80 Kwh a day which is typical round here due to the climate. Even friends in apartments use more than this turbine could produce so to say it will power 10 homes which would be only 1.3 Kwh day is nothing but a complete LIE. No modern home in the first world uses that little power per day. OTOH, my large solar array can make 100+Kwh a day about 9 months of the year.
@@glumpy10 Agreed. My last power bill in winter I used 650 kWh. Divide by 30 is 22-23 kWh/day for a 1,200 sq/ft apartment...Let's say I average using 500 kWh/month due to summer months included as well, that's still roughly 6,000 kWh/year. On their website they state that their 15KW Turbine produces 120,000 kWh / year. That means this 5.5KW produces 44,000 kWh/year meaning that this model shown could power 7-7.5 apartments my size / year. live in Canada FYI.
@@colinu6718 They like to guild the lilly that is for sure. I often see people on forums claim low power consumption but inevitably they have gas and or wood as well but NEVER count that energy input they use. I'm ALL electric and use 20 Kwh day MIN and can go over 80Kwh on a cold or very hot day.
5.5 kw at 240 is only 23 amps. I don’t think this could meet the electrical demand of my house in the summer time when the AC alone is drawing that much.
Can we have it here in Philippines? and how much in Philippine pesos? 😁
How much plss😁
I guess it's ₱350,000 for one turbine
Close the loop, reroute water back to tanks to endlessly run.
yeah, it only works so long as the water runs in a constant manner.
but when there's no water, you are screwed.
coal-fired generation is just as screwed when there's no water
Из за 5 кВт столько, строительных работ , и куча денег на оборудование. Бред полный
зачем там червячную передачу использовали?
Poland Ukraine E40 waterway ?
Saludos