1972 VANDEN PLAS 1300 PRINCESS | MATHEWSONS CLASSIC CARS | 4 & 5 FEBRUARY 2022
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- 1972 VANDEN PLAS 1300 PRINCESS | MATHEWSONS CLASSIC CARS | 4 & 5 FEBRUARY 2022
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Every day is a school day I could listen to that man talk for hours
One cannot fail to appreciate Derek’s enthusiasm when he has a good car in for auction.
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No guarantees but "I guarantee you..." 😂
What a lovely little car. Very opulent. Real Leather and wood. None of the fake crap used today.
Beautiful, beautiful little car, I bloody love these things. One of the most underestimated cars ever in my opinion.
I remember them from the day...I'm afraid TFL and the green lobby and the changing world, does not love these or any old car...more for show and the odd run
@Jon Taylor I love these too , BMC in general was underated but they did make cars for the masses, in my opinion the AUTOMATIC was the one to have , they were 4 speed units and quick changing up and down and tiptronic! Wish I could go back to those simpler and happier times
@@muckle8 what did this sell for at auction ?
@vincent probably more than you would want to pay ! Monopoly money for some now.
@@muckle8 I'm sure this is the one that went for £12,250 the highest bid for one of these for a long time. It's also the same car that cost the restorers 15 grand to bring it to that condition, so no profit there. Nice car though. from the start, I would have moved to wing mirrors to the door panels. Not original but more practical ..
Beautiful example-if it were mine I think the only improvement would be a set of raised digit, original style, silver on black reg plates.
To Jaime from Nygel-yes and a set of LOKARIS! LOKARI is a firm that makes inner wheelarches like ALL cars have had since about the 1980's. Otherwise mud flung up from underneath sticks to the back of the front panel - and rots it's way out!
and replace the wing mirrors with door mirrors, which I think you could even then
Oh my days what a little gem, the days when cars had style and character unlike today's monstrosities really enjoyed this video merry Christmas all 🎅
100% I bloody hate modern car's no style at all plus full of electronic this and that the computer goes bang and your stuffed especially if your in the middle of nowhere old car's 9 out of 10 you could fix it and be on your way 👍👍
@@lablackzed you mean the AA man would fix it ! if you can get one late at night
@@vincentl.9469 No I use to fix my own retired mechanic .👊
@@lablackzed some modern cars are too complex I agree. You get screamed at for not putting a seatbelt on, or opening a door. On the other hand, having an ECU, CAT exhaust and so on, makes them more fuel efficient and cleaner.. it's the price you pay for that. Most need little maintenance too
You won't find many anywhere near this condition.
Good luck to a new owner, a bit of tlc and it will last for years.
A highly desirable classic.
what did it sell for at auction ? it cost about 15 grand to buy & restore
That is a lovely looking motor my first car was a Morris 1100 1967 E reg
That will be a great car for some ones collection 👌
Thats a gem.
Another Derek wonderful explanation of wonderful old gem of a car !
Important point that for younger viewers.Cars rotted like pairs from that era.You soon learnt how to rub back fill prime and paint and then learnt how to weld.Cars dont rot anymore.Anyone thats ever owned a mini will know all about rot in particular!As he says they rotted for fun as you watched just smirking at your vein efforts to stop it.
I remember watching the world go by in one of these as a kid through the holes in the floor. The trays on the back seat in the 70s were mind blowing, loved The Princess.
I think with the extra padding and leather seats, big square grill, they would average 35 mpg. the first thing I would do is move those mirrors to the doors, modern style, colour match the back of them. It looks so wrong and out of date even in the 70s ..
My grandad had a blue Wolsley 1300, great memories 👍
My father had one of these in the same colour. A wonderful ride and a bit different from the standard 1100/1300.
I think the 1100/1300 was sold in many countries under different names so it must have been popular
the Vanden Plas was heavier than the standard 1100/1300. The Riley version was nice too
Love that colour and the walnut inside is gorgeous. I had a Triumph 1300TC (LKT958F) that had wood dash and door caps and was in BRG. These were the two things that sold that little pocket rocket to me and I miss it to this day.
And those quirky fold out window winders. The Triumph 1300 was a lovely car.
Love the ADO16. The plates on this need to be put back to period.
Someone has loved this car, never seen better.
Hello again, WOW, what a lovely car, so good to hear someone who understands the 'older' car, watched 'Bangers & Cash', great to see this UA-cam vlog, look forward to seeing more during 2022. Regards, RichardA.
In the late 70's I bought a white Austin 1100 from the Bracknell Car Auctions ....... Drove it back to Reading like stink!! ...... Got home, lifted the bonnet to see quite a bit of rust .... Called a local welder to have a look, he laughed (Very loudly) and lifted the WHOLE 'Front' OFF of the Sub-Frame .... AARRGGHH!!!!! ..... And I still wonder how I never did a 'Schumaker' racing it back home ......... But this Vanden Plas looks really Peachy 😄👍
Owned one of these from 1979 to 1980. It was a 1970/1 J-reg finished in dark blue. I sold it if I remember for £50 to someone who was going to restore it. If only I'd kept it. I've owned 20 cars and 16 of them would now be classics.
Brings back memories...had a new one same colour in 1965 ..Austin 1100.
Hope bangers &cash comes back soon,love it
*YES* it is a beautiful car, inside and out.
My mate hade one of these in 1972 it was a 1300 GT in burnt orange many happy days running about in his car
Spare key under the bonnet, automatic. But they never got stolen because they had Walnut Picnic tables. I think Kenny Noye had one to go about his daily business. Thanks Jack and Mr Derek.
What a beautiful beautiful car we will visit Thornton-le-dale again when we visit Scarborough again in 2022 greetings from Scotland 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The only real achilles heal on these cars is the rear sub frame mount as pointed out in this video. They were notorious for rotting in this location and a quick check under the front of the rear seat will give some idea of its condition. I can honestly say I've never seen one as nice as this since they were a current car on our roads. This range of 1100 & 1300's were a far superior car to the Allegro series that followed it.
The Allegro did'nt rust like the 1100/1300 , the front inner wings rotted aswell as the rear sub frame you have mentioned so I would disagree that they were better in anyway.
Bought one as my first car at 18, a C reg in 1974 for £200. Six months later the sub frame fell out, new one was £120. Six months later the engine seized. And I was on the princely sum of £40 a week at the time. Looked great though.
Barry Rudge. I worked on many of the cars with the sub frame mounts that collapsed,the back panel that supported the mounts were like tissue paper and rotted through in No time. I used to replace the back panel and mounts without draining the hydro elastic system which some people said was impossible,I used to Jack the whole vehicle up high and drop the subframe down and turn it over on itself on the flexible pipes that carried the fluid,you could then get at the corroded back panel and cut it out. Weld a new panel into place and fit new mountings and rebuild turning the subframe over into its original position and rebuild,I must have done hundreds over the years because they were so bad,car sales places used to send them to me for repair after failing MOTs, some garages wouldn’t tackle them with a barge pole but I could do them in my sleep,the more I did the easier it got,sometimes I had to reinforce them because there was so much corrosion around the mounts.
@@davidellis279 I totally agree having welded up many 1100/1300 they were rust buckets , the Allegro was a far better car but for some reason has a worse reputation , probably down to people who have never owned one or worked on one.
@@peterfox3989 Before going self employed I used to work for a company as a lorry mechanic but they had a fleet of MG 1100s the rep’s used,they did mega mileages and the gearbox in one of them had to be replaced,I removed the complete unit to fit the gold seal gearbox. While I had the unit split I checked the big end and main bearings,I couldn’t believe how good they were,totally unmarked after nearly 100,000 miles and it used virtually no oil between services. They were always filled with Duckhams 20/50 engine oil which was all the rage in those days,what a great little engine they were,fast and economical,I loved them apart from the rot problem.
Oh that's lovely, best wishes to lucky new owner, take good care of her.
Not really my cup of tea but has to be one of the best out there ! If this doesn't get 6 to 7 I'll be surprised .
my late dad owned a Morris Marina Estate which was Damask red, but when my dad got it, it was Harvest Gold and was built on 8th May 1975, Reg was JDJ174N. and never broke down even once
How right Mr Mathewson is, this car is magnificent and exceptional.
I grew up in southwestern Ontario. I know of 3 of these that were doing 60 mph off the showroom floor. 100,000 miles later not one had a wrench on it except for servicing ! Love these little beasts. The ones I knew were Morris 1100 but came standard with bucket seats. Still trying to figure out which front I like better, Morris or Wolsley !!! 😁😁
Wolseley !.Don't forget the Riley Kestrel 11/1300 probably the scarcist one in the ' badge-engineered ' range but nearly as oppulent as the Princess .
Another great video. Wishing you all a Happy Christmas and all the best for 2022.
Shouldn't there be a shroud between the radiator and the inner wing? I don't remember seeing right through there on the 1300GT I used to have 30+ years ago.
What a lovely car 👌💯👍
Nice car, dad had one identical to that, also low mileage etc etc drove really well for its age
One of my absolute dream cars, the others are a Morris Woody traveller and a Bugatti Veyron..! Had several ADO16, still have an Austin 1100 outside, pig of a list of to do's but rock solid, just need more hours in the day.! 12/13 years ago 'won' one of these VDP Princess on ebay, paid a deposit, caught a flight and had even booked the ferry home (Norn Iron) except the autobox oil seal crapped its pants on the owner's garage floor and that was the end of my ownership.. 20 minutes..
My first car .purchased it from an elderly neighbour..l felt a I was driving a mk2 jaguar in side fabulous little car .unfortunately auto gearbox packed up and the dreaded rust got it
Love ❤️
Where's Sarah?
I had one of those. It was my first car. I loved it.
Was and to my knowledge still the only auto box to be driven by engine oil and not ATF.
beautiful car .
These are quite rightly revered and adored in Japan.. More than any luxury car brand. This probably went for way, way under its real value.. It DID go right...?? lol
Positive earth electrics were often blamed for rampant corrosion. My 1970 1300GT (WJR722J) was a terminal bucket of rust by 1975 when I replaced it with a 1972 Marina 1.8TC Coupe (BVH141K). I remember having to change the idler gear in the 1300GT which was an engine out job to do it properly. I treated it to new big end shells while they were staring me in the face.
The AP automatics were a bit obtuse.
Nevertheless, it's always a pleasure to see a rare survivor such as this example.
The AP hot-shiftable automatic was(still is ) a marvel of engineering, the trick is to get both gearbox and engine very clean and then use the best CLASSIC synthetic 20/50 and change it and the oil filter regularly. Sit back and think of England (as it was in 1970).
I loved these cars , and hated the replacement Allegro . I believe the Police loved the 1100 Panda range but despised the Allegro .
Excuse my ignorance and impertinence but are you father or relation to CarAttraction presenter as there are some visual clues! Both are thoroughly enjoyable and satisfy my addiction to classic cars, even though I no longer have one! I will now watch them all.
Rob
Key no good there, you need to get into the car to lift the bonnet.
It deserves to go to a good home.
A best volume seller in its day - replaced by the.....Allegro! Woohoo isn’t the word 🌝👍
I wonder what this car will go for in the auction
Not been on the road for 25 years according to DVLA.....
Is that good or bad please?
Vanden Plas. It is a family name. Be respectful and take the trouble to get it right! A good car dealer surely would.
I wonder if this is a spin-off from Goblin Works Garage. They seem to have very little knowledge of cars. They don’t even know how the hydrolastic suspension works. I did the mod popular on 1100’s in the 60’s of drilling and tapping a hole in the radius arm and filling it with oil. This stopped the arm pivot bearings from wearing out, a common fault. Then there was the added bonus of the oil working it’s way through the bearing and creeping all over the rear subframe stopping any rust. There were enough engine oil leaks to look after the front subframe.
What would l do ? Try & find a disc
conversion. to improve brake stopping power 😀
The VDP would have been fitted with front discs as standard as was the GT.
They were a strange design single acting 'swinging' caliper with wedge-shaped pads.
@@Ampex196 All 1100 -1300 had front disc brakes.
I'd be afraid to take it out in the cold, damp British weather. It belongs in the south of France but the steering wheel is on the wrong side for that.
I had an 1972 Austin 1300 as my first car in 1982. It was a total dog.
did it sell
Beautiful car unlike the ones Austin made after this
How much
Van den Plas is a Dutch name and does NOT have a silent 's' - something I'd expect a car enthusiast to know. Vanden PlaS, not Vanden Plah.
Nice to see a series 1 C126 Benz just outside the door. I have a 500 SEC.
If DACIA made one of these now I would buy 2.
Let’s be honest calling that thing a princess is like calling a pornstar The Queen
I see a fixed head Tasmin in your thumbnail pic.
Easily the worst car TVR ever made, I had one in navy blue, what a bag of shit.
You could do a walk around explaining why it never should've made production.
Sadly let down by an appalling gearbox.
Vanden Plas, not Vanden plaaah.
Agree. You would expect a good car dealer would get it right and know something about the family origin of the name. Made me wonder whether he knew what he was talking about.
CORRECT !! It is indeed pronounced 'Plass' and not 'Plah'.
It might suit some little old lady .who dosnt go far .I wouldn't be seen dead in it.