Thanks for the review. The device looks very nice. How is it compared to the other pocket thermal cameras like topdon tc003 and hikmicro pocket? Does it take a drop and is it rugged?
Does the PC software let you correct for parallax in images taken in Mix mode? My Doogee S98Pro phone (as demonstrated by Big Clive) has that built in, which is useful.
that UI is better than any app I've found for my USB-C thermal cam gadgets. I've tried 3 or 4 and nothing has the manual settings like that. Some of them have better or worse auto settings, but I've literally had to switch apps in a single session just to get the functions I need for a particular subject
For 256x192 thermal resolution and a build in touch screen I would call it cheap... My Flir was new 3x the price with less resolution and no touch screen (but you do get FLIR's radiometric images)
Fascinating little device. I started out thinking it was going to be basic, but it’s actually decent! I wonder what the internals are based on. ARM + Android I guess? Would this get firmware patches ?
I heard thermal cameras are great to spot a bad solar panel in an array which usually heat up more if have a higher internal resistance, or even short. Can you test that?
Yep Toys for Big Boys. Essential if you are building Powerwalls etc. Phone /usbC gadgets are 50% of £400 - what ever floats your boat. I wonder how well it works on Solar panels/hot spots? Whats the view vs Flir?
I'd imagine that later veersions of this camera will have some sort of AI to automatically adjust the images to get rid of parallax errors, shouldn't be too hard to implement.
£402 quid (after discount) is a bit steep for my use. Sure it's capable and very desirable, but massively expensive. particularly for the frequency of use it would get.
All thermal cameras work outdoors, but the distance you can see animals depends on resolution. The further you want to see, the higher resolution camera you need. If you're in a cooler climate it's going to be easier to see a one pixel hotspot than in a hot environment where that pixel is much the same colour as the surrounding environment though, so it also depends on where you're going to use the camera. If you want to test it out, go take a clear high contrast photo of something with your phone (e.g. a red stop sign against a black road) at 100 metres away, and then resize the image down to the thermal sensor's resolution (256x192 in this case), then see if there's enough detail left for you to identify it. Probably not at 100 metres.
@@vink6163 I know. still curious if you see anything. no need to identify what it is at 100m, maybe my question was stupid, my thought was that if anyone has tested that particular camera outdoors.
Maybe because it's a few hundred bucks cheaper, has a higher thermal resolution, higher max temperature, and it won't be unusable for weeks at a time when your phone updates and breaks the vendor's app?
man, are we ever going to get higher res thermal sensors? It's going to be restricted forever because it can be used to make missile seekers, isn't it.. :( I wonder if there's some easy way to tile multiple sensors and make a higher res camera
The technology isn't restricted, it's just expensive to produce. Read up on "microbolometer" if you're interested in the details. Someone will need to invent a new type of sensor technology before cheap high resolution thermal cameras will become affordable. You can easily buy multiple sensors and combine the image, but it will cost the same as just buying a higher resolution sensor. You can get devices with 1024x768 sensors in them quite readily, but they will set you back the same as a decent brand new car.
Thanks for the review. The device looks very nice. How is it compared to the other pocket thermal cameras like topdon tc003 and hikmicro pocket?
Does it take a drop and is it rugged?
Would have been useful to go outside at night and look at a house… That’s a major use of these things. Also handy for board level repairs
Does the PC software let you correct for parallax in images taken in Mix mode? My Doogee S98Pro phone (as demonstrated by Big Clive) has that built in, which is useful.
The same as the Guide PF210?
that UI is better than any app I've found for my USB-C thermal cam gadgets. I've tried 3 or 4 and nothing has the manual settings like that. Some of them have better or worse auto settings, but I've literally had to switch apps in a single session just to get the functions I need for a particular subject
Yes, this is the first time I've seen a full manual palette.
£400 bloody hell you could buy a car for that 😂
Wait till you see the $200k oscilloscopes
For 256x192 thermal resolution and a build in touch screen I would call it cheap... My Flir was new 3x the price with less resolution and no touch screen (but you do get FLIR's radiometric images)
Yep. Stuff costs money.. Shocking innit.
I came here looking for the price 😆, thank you kind sir
Well don't look at FLIR and you get what you pay for.
Fascinating little device. I started out thinking it was going to be basic, but it’s actually decent! I wonder what the internals are based on. ARM + Android I guess? Would this get firmware patches ?
I heard thermal cameras are great to spot a bad solar panel in an array which usually heat up more if have a higher internal resistance, or even short. Can you test that?
You can also spot a bad cell in a panel.
I don't need this enough to pay AUD$650, but thanks for letting me know about it.
$692.00 CAD ( _AFTER_ the discount). I don't need much of anything that badly!
Can we use it to make heat guided missiles?
When I change the site to Australian dollars it comes up with a 404 Not Found on the camera's page! Guess it's not available outside the US?
Yep Toys for Big Boys. Essential if you are building Powerwalls etc. Phone /usbC gadgets are 50% of £400 - what ever floats your boat. I wonder how well it works on Solar panels/hot spots? Whats the view vs Flir?
TOPDON TC003 Thermal Imaging Camera, 256x192 IR ? Alix £350 + tax guarantee refund?
I recomend hikmicro thermal cameras from 150$ and up. I have myself a hikmicro poket 2 and i am very pleased
I'd imagine that later veersions of this camera will have some sort of AI to automatically adjust the images to get rid of parallax errors, shouldn't be too hard to implement.
Judging by how half baked some of the UI on there is I think expecting the manufacture to add AI is a bit of a stretch.
£402 quid (after discount) is a bit steep for my use. Sure it's capable and very desirable, but massively expensive. particularly for the frequency of use it would get.
does it work outdoors, like see animals at like 100m
All thermal cameras work outdoors, but the distance you can see animals depends on resolution. The further you want to see, the higher resolution camera you need. If you're in a cooler climate it's going to be easier to see a one pixel hotspot than in a hot environment where that pixel is much the same colour as the surrounding environment though, so it also depends on where you're going to use the camera.
If you want to test it out, go take a clear high contrast photo of something with your phone (e.g. a red stop sign against a black road) at 100 metres away, and then resize the image down to the thermal sensor's resolution (256x192 in this case), then see if there's enough detail left for you to identify it. Probably not at 100 metres.
@@vink6163 I know. still curious if you see anything. no need to identify what it is at 100m, maybe my question was stupid, my thought was that if anyone has tested that particular camera outdoors.
why would this be better than a 100x smaller thing i plug in to my phone?
Well some people and some type of works need more rugged and secure device.
Maybe because it's a few hundred bucks cheaper, has a higher thermal resolution, higher max temperature, and it won't be unusable for weeks at a time when your phone updates and breaks the vendor's app?
@@vink6163 wow, you must be a Apple user. But those thermal camera's for your phone start at arount €100,-
man, are we ever going to get higher res thermal sensors? It's going to be restricted forever because it can be used to make missile seekers, isn't it.. :(
I wonder if there's some easy way to tile multiple sensors and make a higher res camera
You would need 4 sensors, a 4 port USB C hub and you'd need to write a driver/software to combine the images.
I'd like one of those eye in the sky ones on helicopters
The technology isn't restricted, it's just expensive to produce. Read up on "microbolometer" if you're interested in the details. Someone will need to invent a new type of sensor technology before cheap high resolution thermal cameras will become affordable. You can easily buy multiple sensors and combine the image, but it will cost the same as just buying a higher resolution sensor. You can get devices with 1024x768 sensors in them quite readily, but they will set you back the same as a decent brand new car.
Wish someone would send me free nice expensive toys like this to "review". Do you have to send this stuff back afterward or do you get to keep it?
I do get to keep this camera. It will be useful when making videos on buck and boost converters ;)
@@JulianIlettExcellent!
@@JulianIlett So this was a paid review? I think you should have made that clear at the start of the vid....
I did :)
£400 loads a money Jooles, did you pay for it, was it a freebie?
Do like it but can you get us all subcribers a better deal please 360 tops we might buy100 units tell them
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