Land Rover Market CRASHES In 'Perfect Storm'
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- In today's video, we take a look at what's going on with the Land Rover market. They haven't been far from news this year, from a theft crisis, insurance issues, flooded dealerships and now the values tanking drastically. I give you my dealer insight into what's caused all of this, and how things might end up for the premium British marque.
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Land Rover thefts featured heavily on Traffic Cops 4/12/23 - Derby cops stated 5 or 6 cars being taken every night. When it’s stated so heavily on mainstream TV, watched by millions, it’s almost a certainty the public will walk away from the brand.
Just had my insurance renewal for my 2010 L322 , up from £720 to £1440, a 100% increase.
JLR made a massive mistake targeting luxury market, latest defender should have been ultra utility
Agreed! They got greedy and unnecessarily messed with a winning formula.
The delineation between RR and LR, the roles they filled, and who each set of customers were was not only very clear but also, because of their abilities, common knowledge across the world. And despite crap reliability they still hold an almost mythic reputation.
Now however, LR are a luxury item with a premium price just like RR. And all those life-long/repeat Land Rover customers now drive a Japanese or Korean 4x4
Nice old series 2 same value as 2012 full size range rover
Absolutely they should of stayed with the tractor model
It's selling well enough for them.
The "tractor" model sold 14,000 units a year, the new one sells 120,000 a year. I think JLR did the right thing.@@connorsutton
i would avoid them like the plague
Fashionable… but the problem child
I saw an auction up north, well away from the Smoke, and all the JLR vehicles were not even getting a bid on 3-4k under cap clean and therefore going unsold. Figures from car dealer magazine etc is like MSM, full of bullshit. Any buyer with a brain will wait until well into next year. It ain’t the insurance you have to worry about with these vehicles, it’s the running costs, breakdowns!
I gather from your report you’ve never owned a RR, I’ve had several over the years and can honestly say I have never broken down with any of them not even a puncher,there’s so much bullshit said about these vehicles, they can be expensive to repair but in many cases it’s the owner not the vehicle, they neglect the maintenance and rant on about how bad they are probably because of LR dealers horrendous prices for spares and labour costs,keep away from main agents like I do and things aren’t that bad or if your capable do your own repairs and servicing,buying aftermarket spares of the internet is a good place to get parts at a fraction of LR prices,I have a LR specialist near me who’s great and has all the latest diagnostic software and most of the time it’s just a matter of plugging it in to find the fault if they occur,they are a very technological vehicle with all the systems to them and a simple sensor can cause all sorts of problems when they fail. People expect to run these vehicles on a shoestring and buy worn out lumps of shit and find themselves with all sorts of problems because of lack of maintenance previously,they are a luxury vehicle and can cost a lot of money if you don’t know what your doing,their capable of mega mileages if looked after and driven properly,some idiots drive them like sports cars and then winge when things go wrong.
@@davidellis279glad u have faith because the majority don’t. There is plenty of evidence on here or media that these are trouble. Yes u need deep pockets. Such a shame as such desirable vehicles, interior comfort is incredible. JLR need to get a grip on QC and development on their problems. The problem is their reputation is worldwide negative now. I have a friend with an XF owned from new since 2009 and only needed dpf. Beautiful car, comfort performance, looks. Bought £38k now worth £4k so £34k in 14 years for a heck of a vehicle. He’s been very lucky from what I hear. Approaching 200k miles. Zero electrical/ mechanical problems.
Aha the strike threat. That finished austin/ morris BMC. Wonder if will repeat it. Inchape will get a beating in think
@@davidellis279…at the end of the day, any vehicle in the class of 4x4 should not require the maintenance and running costs a JLR product does, let alone the problems! When your 1000’s Km from anywhere, you want reliability and redundancy. The new defender is an absolute joke from a recovery position.
… A Porsche Cayenne is more reliable and cheaper to repair than a JLR!
@@davidellis279I haven’t owned a RR personally (although I F’n love the design of them), but my local coffee shop owner had a brand new RR Velar… it spent more time at the dealer within the first 12mths than it did in his driveway. Never taken off-road. It ended up being refunded under consumer law… I suppose the positive is he got to drive all the other model RR’s they gave him whilst it was in for “work”!!😂
Good - I hope the rest of the ridiculous "SUV" craze goes the same way. Nobody needs to drive 2 tonnes of 4x4 on a public road. I say this as one who learnt to drive in a Series 2a aged 10 and I love old Landies.
It makes them feel really important being high up looking down on the lowly people that drive " normal" cars .
I've always called them monster trucks .They are pretty useless too and can guarantee my Old Mazda 6 has a more usable boot space .
Send them to Ukraine
As Land Rover prices fall people like myself will just hang on to our vehicles instead of trading them in. I’ve had a Discovery Sport from new for 5 years and now has only 37,000 miles on the clock. The trade in values would pay for a deposit and 12 months of payments. No incentive to trade it in for a new one. I’ve disabled the keyless entry. Lovely car to drive. But this means that Land Rover won’t be selling new cars to past customers.
As a Land Rover enthusiast for 60 years now, my personal experience is possibly the electronic time come to the end, sadly they have completely lost the plot. 😢😢😢😢.
Land Rover and Range Rover are not to be talked about in the same way . One is half decent the other is a pill an absolute joke
The biggest problem is lack of spare parts. This is fueling the current spate of thefts and leaving lots of RRs on dealers property. JLR need to up their game now or the Brand is history.
Ppl have finally tired of paying huge prices for shoddily built motors. They've been hyped to death for years but unfortunately spend far too much time in the garage with massive bills.
The argument about only 2 insurance companies providing cover seems to be yesterday's news. In fact, insurance premiums have started to come off significantly and particularly as a spread over other comparable large SUVs (e.g. Q7 and X5). That's why I bought a used RR last week after watching prices fall for a long time as the insurance premium finally came to £2300 vs £1500 for a used Q7 (Greater London area). This and the JLR security update should start to support the market. Having said that, if all used car prices fall it might not be enough.
Anybody dropping money at any dealership on a used car at the moment needs their bumps feeling.
Surely the retail prices have to follow trade prices in the near future. Otherwise the public will just have to buy at auction to pay a fair price. As for JLR I wouldn't go anywhere near one, always been to many horror stories.
Well... Or trade prices are low for a reason.
These are known to be unreliable and prone to very expensive bills to fix - as a dealer who's responsible for fixing these faults for a certain period of time, you're going to see that margin dwindle quickly if something goes wrong.
I was looking for an L322. One dealer wanted £23k and several more up at £20k+ for a 2012. WBAC put it at £10k with 60k on the clock. 😮 theres a few dealers still asking crazy money for 12+ yo Range Rovers
The Jag F pace forums are full of engine failures and steering rack failure, it's just not good enough from a premium brand like JLR.
Built by scousers, what do you expect..?😅😅
Not a premium brand sorry. Not made in sufficient numbers to be a good vehicle either. New versions were introduced before existing models had faults ironed out.
Shit cars overrated and made with cheap parts and inferior engineering designed to cut costs and sell lemonade for the price of champagne
I spotted a 2006 Vogue 4.4 with 122,000 miles on Autotrader, for £1,500.
Compare the Market quoted me £760 for fully comp for a year.
Not that I'd buy a 20 year old Range Rover- it's going to cost at least £5000 a year in repairs!!
Unless JLR can get it's act togeather and start looking after it's customers and make all models
secure enough so that buyers can insure them then they are going to be a brand to avoid.
Far too many are waiting for spare parts that are on backorder for months.
I have owned Jaguars in the past, and found some spares to be expensive and hard to find
if you want oem parts.
All of this is a shame, but will allow other brands to find new customers.
That particular Inchcape LR dealership was built on a floodplain and has already been flooded, I suspect what’s happened is that they have been unable to get flood coverage when they renewed their insurance…
That doesnt remove liability, just means its not an insured risk.
They know they'll go bust if they pay out all those cars. Or worse if they fixed them, as they'd have to guarantee repairs - which could come up in 5-10 yrs when electronics corrode. They're stuffed.
@@Finderskeepers. Indeed, however what I suspect Inchcape are trying to do is get people to claim their own insurance rather than pursue them…
@@neilballam8701 Inchcapeis a huge company so I don’t think it would bankrupt them, however it would still be an eye-watering amount
Like their customers not being about to get theft insurance on their Land Rovers 😂
Food for thought Joe. Well explained.
I contacted JLR customer relations this week to inform them that LV would not renew insurance from January on a Velar. The helpful lady apologised for the current insurance issue and recommended I contact WRISK LAND ROVER who are now helping JLR with insurance issues. I contacted them with the details .2019 Velar 240D HSE . No accidents no claims no points in the last 40 years Nottingham address. Guess what. They would not even quote!! Unbelievable! I am seriously considering a Kia Sportage now as a friend recently retired from Land Rover handed back his Velar and bought a Kia. Sportage which he said is a better car!!
Your friend is telling you porkies, Kia and Hyundai are also having troubles with transmission’s going wrong and getting the nessesry parts to repair them is nigh impossible,there is absolutely no comparison between Kia and Range Rover it’s a ridiculous thing to say, all manufacturers have their problems no matter whose you buy but comparing these two vehicles against each other is nonsense.
I think with regard to people being told to claim on their insurance for flooding while in a dealership - I gather the same thing is happening with whatever shady outfit runs the car park at Luton airport.
Someone took a drone picture of the flooded dealership, the area where they kept there stock was empty ,they appeared to have been moved ,but all the customer cars had not.
The retail maybe, my insurance has quadrupled on my evoque and I live 20 mins from berrow, I was going to sell it but no point now
Did posh spice design the power train as well as the styling ? The reliability would suggest both ?
I wonder what the mayor of London pays for insurance on his Rangie. I’m it’s reg plate is W4 NKR 🤣
I saw an article that stated that his RR did not have an MOT Richie.
I doubt the Mayor cares about the cost of insurance, he doesn't pay for it.
@@trevorphillips3055 Very true buddy, so very true. Then again does he really care where his money comes from?
His RR cost 500k
Not as long as it keeps coming. @@Calvi36
Thanks Corp Jones, was this message just as a mates thing, or fiscally motivated?
Well told story Joe 👍.
Thanks
Interesting, and I agree, in the real world Range Rover prices have not changed that much. I have been in the market for a full fat Range Rover for a while, and the prices may have changed very slightly but nothing significant.
If you want to be truthful, all car makers are having a hard time thanks to high interest rates , EVs are dropping through the floor. So don't talk down JLR with out Ford, Volvo, Porch, Lexus , Tesla, to name but a few.
That picture in the background. Is it the car park in Lennoxtown Glasgow? On the campsie road.
No, it’s a carpark on the Black Mountain Pass, Wales
Struggling to make sense of this as with much else in the world. I mean, nobody wants them yet retail prices still holding and lots about?
There is a delay in information awareness between traders, enthusiasts, buyers and the general public. Once the general public starts to hear stories and sound bites of the problems then the prices will plummet. It will be like the reliability stereotype reputation, it will stick even if the newer range rovers are vastly improved.
Ultimate report or the ultimate report. Well done!
This comment makes you look worse than it does me.
mine has been in the dealership since Mid November 2023, they cannot get a DPF replacement. Its absolutely ridiculous they cannot get parts for a car to fix them when they go wrong. Avoid like the plague
Garages in Ireland wont take in JLR products because of part backlogs, customers are left hanging. Brand will tank.
the chap in the news article quoted, saying it only affects London / South based cards is bogus. They're dropping across the board, or if the dealer is trying to hold up the price, they're simply not selling. The challenge for the buyer seems to be, some dealers, are so far behind on them, they can't match market prices.
Any car buyer can access data on reliability, service costs, insurance costs etc. Why would people ignore this when buying a high cost car?
Greedy dealers trying to punt at full retail price while buying in at rock bottom trade prices? Who would have thought eh? I know you're a dealer, and a fair one, but the rest of your trade's practices deserve the pain in austerity. God bless the free market, my heart bleeds as the World's tiniest violin playing the World's saddest tune for dealers going bust.
Posers will pay
Tiny bit bitter aren’t ya ….. get yourself to the auction with your tiny violin of course and try and buy yourself a straight one see how you get on.😮
No one is forced to buy or pay the price
@@msjcars2317 good, then much les people will buy them. The market will adjust in the buyers favour in time.
A fool and their money are easily parted 🤔
Ive had a couple of XFs and both have been faultless, i find if you look after them they are ok, i would agree that Jaguar customer service leaves a lot to be desired. As far as i understand JLR have or are addressing the security issues but i feel with all the negative media around at the minute the damage will be done and the brand will suffer...fast forward 2 years and we will all be shocked when it becomes another car maker that bites the dust.
As for insurance i feel its just another case of big businesses taking the opportunity to fleece the general public. My renewal has just gone up by £300 (20 years + no claims) reasons given...its hard to find parts if the car is damaged 🤔
I’ve just got rid of my Land Rover Discovery Sport, lots of issues, lots of costs, lower values.
Never again! Once bitten, twice shy as they say!
My advice! Don’t!
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Just done a insurance quote for A 2017 SVR £1050 ! Time to buy?
I've got an SVR loads of fun!
Range Rovers and Jags always breakdown and Dealers are the worst and rip off with servicing sales people are very pleasant but after sale they are not interested. I have had 12 never again.
😅😅😅😅 you bought 12 before you came to this conclusion??
You are either a slow learner or economical with the truth.
Why do I keep reading about LR/RR prices crashing, yet while I'm looking for a Discovery Sport all the nice ones get snapped up PDQ? And I wouldnt call them cheap. Trade prices are irrleevant to 99% of people on here.
JLR refuse to stand behind their product. Point in case is the known issue with snapped cranks on the 2.7 & 3.0 engines. People are left with a repair bill of up to $40k AUD and have had to scrap the vehicle.
Used prices may not be coming down because dealers prop up the market by maintaining prices despite less demand, same as estate agents in the housing market. This guy has been told not to spread more panic by his contacts in the industry.
So you’re saying its a dealer wide price fixing conspiracy, where all the dealers collude to hold onto stock that is reducing in value - so they can ultimately sell them for even less at a later date? If your theory holds water, then you’d see an ever growing gulf between private and dealer sales prices
How can an estate agent hold prices up??? Seriously…
Yes I got the call from all my Range Rover Franchise friends 😂😂
Turn off keyless entry. That it! The insurance companies need to know that can be done and MUST be a condition of being insured.
@ShiftingMetal If JLR dealers are offering very low trade-ins, yet the window price appears to be static, are they doing this to maintain brand image yet having extra margin as a result? As somebody who is looking for a used RRS, do you think JLR dealers are offering more room to negotiate a discount to shift show moving stock?
Reliability is there problem and people now no not to go anywhere near them
11:56 now I know my 58 reg vw golf mk5 2.0 tdi sportline worth £400 basically and the dealer made £2400 on the sale, feeling great🤦♂️
I've had my 2010 v6 HSE Range Rover for 3 years it's done 92000 miles, I change the oil regularly I've changed the usual disc brakes and pads, had a new alternator, had no more problems than any other car I've owned. It had an MOT this week had a clean pass no advisories I even had to walk up to the front of the car whilst it was in the MOT station to realise the diesel engine was still running as it was so quiet.
Sure Jan 😒
To be fair 92k is nothing to boast about. Years ago I took 2 vauxhall senator 3.0 24v to circa 300k. Biggest issue on one was head gasket
My Citroen C5 waltzed past 250k miles, maybe that's why JLR have used PSA derived engines.@@Phantom-mk4kp
That's low mileage, only 7000 miles a year. Well built cars will do 250 or 300k no problem like old Mercedes or VW.
Happy with the car but, insurance is crazy, will keep it till insurance or jlr sortt the issue, jlr problem, start their own insurance when you buy its all In,, I have upgrade, this should make difference
But it doesn't
I tried vehicle score my mercedes got 97, not bad
where can I buy a Range Rover svr at trade money
The problem with these vehicles status symbol Land Rover shows that you are successful ? Punters will still buy them but not as many 🤣 my wife work colleague just became millionaire on the lottery just bought today Range Rover Sport SVR all the bells and whistles I don’t think he will be worried about the maintenance and insurance.
For the average punter these vehicles will be out of there reach.
Like with most problems it will probably settle down after a year or so but many sellers will catch a cold.
It isn’t just Land Rover ? Millions of people seeing massive hike insurance over the last 6 month it partially due to excessive body and repair cost and theft.
Many thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
You just need to keep your key in a Faraday pouch overnight and the problem goes away
The parts Back Order for Land Rovers has extended into the future, literally no spares - please be aware !
Maybe nobody wants to be lumbered with spares when the world has gone electric?
JLR need to up their game and take some pointers from dealers like BMW for customer satisfaction!!!
For the price of a brand new range rover (lets say £120k)
You could buy an e70 x5 40d Porsche cayenne v8 diesel & a merc ml63 amg-with lots and lots of change left over.
🤔 Don’t buy one 💩 brand and instead buy another 💩 brand instead!
So what I’m hearing is we shouldn’t buy retail anymore
Landrover/Range rovers etc have had reliability issues for years. Can they not send a couple of their engineers over to Toyota for a while to find out how to build a reliable car?
I'd rather catch the 8 litre daimler to work than buy a JLR every day is a Friday special.....walking would be more fun
If keyless entry is the problem, why don't insurers offer a better rate if it is disabled? Or am I missing something?
I thought that too. Surely just do a recall and go back to basics or something
Many Toyota SUV's have been key less entry since 2010 why are they not being stolen, or have thieves got new hardware Tech
its a toyota . its not desirable @@PapaTube-ep1nk
@@PapaTube-ep1nk Most have awful CVTs which thieves refuse to drive!
We have an outlander and have disabled the keyless, on the car via the menu. Is that not possible on. JLR?
With used prices of Land Rovers dropping there’s never been a better time to buy one if that’s what your after,insurance costs are high but what a car for the money,the diesel V8s in both 3-6 and 4-4 are brilliant performers and not that bad on fuel in not driven hard,driven sensibly on the motorway mine always gave over 30mpg which for that sort of luxury vehicle isn’t bad at all,my daughter has a 3litre V6 diesel Velar and on a recent trip to the outskirts of London averaged nearly 40mpg on the round trip from Manchester. The weather conditions were awful with wind and rain in both directions. I had a Range Rover Sport 3-6 tdv8 for about 4years with very little trouble,it had done 120,000 before I bought it and sold it around 180,000 miles,what a super vehicle that was,before that I had a Discovery 3 2-7 tdv6, great vehicle but needed a bit more push than 190bhp.
I’m away to buy a 2014 RRS SDV8 in the next week or so. Insurance isn’t that bad in my area…yet lol. My wife’s uncle has a commercial Defender 110 and recently bought a 20 plate SVR. He swears by them.
Meanwhile in the real world people are driving round in old bangers and little economical cars .
@@topfuelteddy That’s their choice,if that’s all they can afford then that what you do,I run around in some right crap when I was young but after working my arse off for over 50 years I can now afford to run something better and that’s my choice,everyone has choices and I’ve made mine,if you want to ride around in a Corsa or Fiesta that’s your choice but I’m sure if you had the money you’d choose something better,happy new year.
@@davidellis279 Happy new year to you too , I've got the money sitting in the bank ready for my retirement after working 45 years myself and drive round in my 13 year old Mazda , it runs great , massive boot , does everything I need of it and it's very clean too but I won't sacrifice a stable future for the sake of looking "cool " and impressing others . The kids nowadays who have credit on everything will need to work until they drop and the large proportion of them will never retire.
@@topfuelteddy Your not wrong about that,they’ll probably never own a house and if they do never finish paying for it in their lifetime but that’s today’s lifestyle,there’s hard times ahead I’m just glad I won’t be around long enough to see it.
Surely the dealerships will have public liability relating to flood damage. Like every one else in this country they do not want to take responsibility.
They are aspirational, ask anyone if they won the lottery what car they would buy and nine times out of ten it would be a Land Rover, stop knocking them
JLR good container export model 👌
Interest rates higher for longer is the slogan…means prices are gona fall yet just wait on
I do understand the dealer reluctance to reduce prices, but at some point they will have to move stock, as the holding costs ramp up.
Individuals who can’t get insurance will HAVE to sell, unless they SORN (in which case the vehicle will be off the road and uninsured, and still liable to theft).
Those that are sold will be a clear barometer, just as house prices and the gulf between asking prices and sale price, when volumes dry up.
SORN does not stop u insuring
Inchape Derby should have public liability you can claim against maybe ?
They're impossible to own, they either get stolen or catch fire or if you manage to keep hold of one for longer than 5 minutes then the minute you take it to a dealer for a service it'll get flooded and they'll deny all responsibility!!!!!
Great jokes!
Unless you like a dash board full of warning lights on and endless garage bills. Awful unreliable crap.
INCHCAPE - Inch cape 👍🏼
Buy 10, get em bagged up, this time next year you will be a millionaire. 😁😁
Sell them to the Army for WW3?
By 2026 over 5,000,000 homes need to reapply for mortgages. I used to work At we buy any car after 2008 crash. What’s coming isn’t good at all. G wagons in USA are selling $20k under average value right now
I stay up in Scotland in the wilds of the country is it worth buying a RR around 30k just now before they go back up? Or will they not
Only if you live close to a Land Rover dealer for when it breaks down regularly
Do you stay on an island that should be OK
They will not go back up on average cars & vans went up about 30% & will crash along with property prices next year!! Hard times ahead in general.
The only RR I would buy is a Rolls Royce.
Some interesting answers cars a detrimental financially usually and a drop is overdue, catching the drop at the right point is a bonus! Staying off grid means a need a capable 4x4
JLR dealerships can say what they bloody like re claims but customer insurance companies will refuse to pay out
I have a 2005 range rover Sport paid £10,000 6 years ago service cost £ 695 road tax is £350, 140,000 miles everything works, its cheap luxury motoring, I can pay cash for new one but i don't have anything to prove ,
Surely the simple practice of putting your car key in a faraday pouch every night would combat the ‘arial dancers’ as there would be no signal for them to intercept. I have a high end BMW and I put the key in a faraday pouch religiously as soon as I enter the house then hide the key. It cost me less than £10 for two pouches and I’ve walked right up to my car with the key in the pouch and tried to open the doors and the car remains locked. Yes, thieves could break into your house for the keys but surly if they couldn’t access your vehicle from outside the house then they’d try and find an easier target 🤔
It’s an insurance scam. I drive a 2015 RR Evoque it does not have keyless go, I am 66 with full no claims etc etc no points convictions yet my renewal quote was over £2000. I live 420 miles from London on a low car crime area so it’s nothing to do with the car etc it’s all about insurance companies ripping people off. I eventually got LR insurance for just over £800. Drivers will soon see that the price will stay high again once this scam is made public notice
The situation with the flooded Land Rover garage would probably cause me and others a problem having to claim on insurance as Ive told my insurance my car is parked in my garage overnight so wondering what would be the case if I tried to claim in that situation?? I don’t think I’m alone in saying jlr need to fix this problem!!! Another thing I find unbelievable is that people are still using keyless entry when unless you live under a rock would know about cars being stolen so easily!!! Yes its a nice thing to have but I doubt not having keyless entry is a deal breaker??
Watching YT Video yezterday,about JLR ad on FB getting four hundred comments,largely complaints from JLR owners.
As a landrover owner I can tell you first time and last time I'll ever buy one very unreliable but the worst thing is there customer service
I love Rang Rover / Land Rover .❤
Think ill take mine in as an exchange see what dealer offer me on a new one ha 😂
I'd love to have a range rover, big comfy quality interior, ability to get through the snow (I live in the country), but I'd have to run another car for the inevitable occasions when it's in the garage being fixed, so there's no point.
I've had three over the last 14 years without an issue - don't believe half you read....
You couldn't give them away ,,now 😢
Paying massive money on a load of old shite..
I want a car that starts, goes and stops without the engine falling out or the dash lighting up like an Xmas tree..
500 quid motor mate. Lol.Seen loads for no money. Such a shame lovely vehicles
i think is star to bring in Chinese cars they making pretty good hybrid and electric cars
Hi Joe. So now would be a good time to buy a Crashed damaged Range Rover because there is loads of Stolen parts flying around lol 😅😅. Just joking Joe. But Seriously I would know nothing about this without you letting us know here in Ireland. So Nice one Bro. Omg a flooded dealership. I would lose the head if my car was in there. That G4 Auction was brilliant. You should have bought that Vauxhall VXR. Nice Car that was. Anyway chat soon Joe 😅😅 🇨🇮🇨🇮
Not a sensible comment made 🤔
I've heard a rumour JLR will be offering their own insurance soon
For brand new only I would assume .
The media can talk prices up as well as down.
If you buy a land rover just be ready for the repairs..... buying it is the easy part.
It's very strange that after many years they still can't produce reliable vehicles
It's good news and about time that bubble burst ...there shite all a clever marketing process 😂
Range Rover owners should instead buy a Fabia diesel, lose the ego and aggression, and save themselves over £10k a year.
Terrible on fuel, unreliable, targeted by thieves and my friend just gkt quoted more than £10k to insure. No wonder the price is dropping like a stone.
Who can afford the running costs of JLR vehicles, spares, insurance , fuel . Count me out I'll go else where thank you