Audio slipped a bit in the upload, so my lips are exactly 3 frames behind my audio, but didn't notice it until it released. Sorry about that! Figured out the issue, and it won't happen again. Have a lovely day! Happy streamin'!
@@ShawnRaythe delay wasn’t VDO Ninja, it was the audio timeline slipping. VDO Ninja delay is due to internet speed, it has to send the camera to the website and then to OBS. Genuinely surprised how little delay it is after all that.
The editing on this video is great. The content itself is amazing too. I'm always baffled by people doing how to videos about a subject while showing themselves doing a poor job at it. You definitely set the bar high showing the tools and showing yourself doing a great job at it. It's very useful and your pace is perfect. I don't have to listen to you in x1,5 because you're just fast enough. It's all great!
0:01 Bro I literally thought I was the only person that tested a cameras frame right by doing what I call the one armed tidal wave! You're literally doing EXACTLY what I do when I test a cameras FPS! It honestly made me choke a bit on the Pepsi I'm drinking because it caught me off guard and made me laugh! Small world!
I love the glitch pro. I use that one currently, I previously used dark glitch. My gaming chair is black and white though so it fits my on screen look better 🙌
any mac users like me you can use continuity camera on your iphone there’s no delays and it doesn’t get too hot but still a little. not all iphones are supported and you can’t use two at once or leave the wifi network but for me it works perfectly and doesn’t need a download
I have both a Mac and a built windows pc. If I could use own3d pro on my Mac computer I totally would love to use my iPhone 14 Pro Max camera as my video overlay. But the packages I purchased via Own3d Pro keep me streaming on my built PC. The starting soon, BRB, Ending stream & Just chatting scenes are well worth using my PC.
Is there a way to rotate the iPhone camera that’s filming? I want to film vertically but when I hold my phone vertically, it just zooms in from the horizontal video instead of rotating the camera, so my video ends up being zoomed in. I’ve tried rotating the aspect ratio and it just zooms in more from the horizontal camera. If that makes sense, is there a solution? Thanks
Firstly, thank you for all this info! I have an IPhone 13 and a Macbook Air. I'd like to start making reels for YT and would prefer to have two cameras so I may have A and B rolls to use for editing. Could you please point me in the right direction of which device has better recording between the two and if I should buy a webcam to use with one or the other device (whichever one is recommended). Also, how do I get A and B rolls of the same quality? I tried recording with the built-in cameras of my IPhone and Macbook, and when I edited using both rolls you can clearly see the difference in imaging as to which is the IPhone and which is the Mac. Once I decide on which device to use, do I buy two webcams to attach to it so I can get the dual rolls I need? Any and all info is greatly appreciated!
I wish there a way to use the extra Samsung S23+ that I got as a webcam without any additional software. Mostly because I don't like adding any extra lag or any extra loss in frame rate while gaming etc. due to there being a completely separate software such as (CAMO) requiring to be open at the same time as OBS while at the same time whatever game I'm playing is open. It's very demanding on most PCs. I can still definitely get away with it and that's what I've been doing thus far, but I feel like there's got to be a better way! To be fair I haven't watched this video yet. Perhaps you give me a better option than using CAMO?
Reason why i search this up is because i have a google pixel 6, with a Very Good Camera that has 4k60, and its far better then the Webcameras i have lol
This is completely unrelated to the video, I just found it funny: You look a lot like Brian Daboll, current head coach of the New York Giants, with that bald filter.
i have epoccam pro and have been a user for about a yr now using it thru wifi is honestly buns just use a decent lighting cable only plus is when you leave it on auto it will automatically switch
Thank you! Important question, please: I use the elgato facecam through obs as my cat cam; can I use the iphone with epoccam through camera hub at the same time for another use?
Is there a way to use video ninja for recording rather than just streams? Or some other (free or cheap) tool? I use OBS for recording and I've been using my phone camera. There was an easy way to set it up on Mac and I don't even remember what I did, but now I have a windows PC and wanted to use it for recording sometimes. All I could find was the OBS camera app, which I have to either pay monthly for to remove the watermark, or pay $70 lifetime fee. For something that I only plan to use to make my phone a camera, which I can already do free on my Mac, I can't justify spending that.
Why do we refresh when scene becomes active? When switching from other scenes to this one, it's quite annoying to not have it directly appear, but take a second to load. What happens if we unclick that option? I am using it without it and haven't have any problems yet. I am curious.
Better off having a PC with OBS installed, and then you can run your console THROUGH a capture card to the PC into OBS, and stream off the PC. Console streamers can’t do much without that set up.
@@StreamScheme What if, I just need the tv?, what I mean is I want to make a reaction channel and I would love to watch what I'm reacting to throug my tv and not my pc... I still need a capture card?
i dont see anyone else with this problem but after a short period of time (30-60 seconds) my vodninja feed freezes on obs, not in my phone though, just my pc. is there a fix for this? i cant find a fix anywhere and it’s driving me mad
@Slay_Jaymake sure you’re using the vodninja app on your phone rather than the website, also have your phone plugged in to charge if you can, i did both of those things and it fixed it
I tried Epoc Cam and epoc cam pro and on multiple occasions it would randomly disconnect my phone during my stream, leaving me with a big black box on live stating "no webcam connected" or something like that. Would not recommend that one.
Do I understand correctly that this web-app basically sends the data through the web, and back to my pc? Why? I have it connected through usb directly.
Two apps, one is a web browser app that doesn’t need to be connected. The other is the elgato tool which can be either but many can’t get working wirelessly.
69th like, nice. That squirtle squad LED light is cool. I got gifted a Metroid one by partner, but it flickers on camera. Is this something that I need a better camera to resolve, because the anti flicker settings on my webcam don't help. A friend told me a camera where you can control the shutter speed is key. I know this is off topic, but any help would be cool. Keep up the awesome videos man!
I think any camera you use you need ISO, Shutterspeed, and F Stop control. It’s the triangle of exposure. The LED flickers because it’s hz are syncing with the cameras frames per second. It often happens when you’re shooting a format like PAL, but the light runs a current that is from America NTSC, or it’s just cheap manufacturing. Changing your shooting format, FPS, and lowering shutterspeed are the solutions to the flicker.
I tried connecting my Iphone 11 to my windows 10 monitor + PC/"box" through Wifi but it didn't work. I tried by connecting my computer with my Iphone though wires and it didn't work either. What am I doing wrong? Do I need a specific app to connect through wifi or a specific cord? I literally cannot continue streaming without setting this up.
It's done in this order because not everyone can use Elgato, since it only works with certain devices (and barely works.) Starting with Elgato would essentially exclude a huge section of the audience, so instead I give everyone the option I use thats fully wireless, free, AND can be used by anyone, then show the one that costs money, barely works, and doesn't work for everyone. Hope that explains the logic
I myself started making videos for my UA-cam channel and I have ngl found your UA-cam channel and the way you explain things is very helpful . For now I just have low spec phone not as good as 300$ to 500$ dollor phones but everything have a solution so I'm making use of it . I would love to start streaming if I can have a Decent PC or if I can also show myself in me gameplay videos. Love your channel ❤🎉
@@StreamScheme Yes I'm !! Will upload a gameplay today y as new year special and I will be looking forward for more of your videos :D . Also joined the discord just now and I hope that will be a lot of help 💖
Will this cause a lot of use in bandwidth ? Thought about doing this but I figured having my phone using wifi while I’m streaming and gaming (via ethernet) would just be another added device on the internet and my internet is already bad where I live. Anyone have issues with this? Or has it been fine
Yep, you’re sending the camera over the internet, so it absolutely adds to it. Hence why my shots don’t look amazing all the time, my internet wifi is fast but unstable.
See that’s funny I could never get epoc cam pro to work wired, only would work wirelessly, I tried everyone of my chargers however I didn’t own the official apple charger.
Hi and thanks for this video. Personally I use prism lens, for me it has less lag than VDO ninja. In your description box, you talk about white balance. Did you explained how to correct it on OBS please ? I didn't found the answer or didn't understand. 🧐 (My english is not perfect)
You don’t correct white balance in OBS :) you set it on the camera and lights, only adjust in OBS IF it’s adjusting the camera settings and not just editing the image.
Hello, can anyone help me? I’m OLD, and I simply want to use my iPhone 14 Pro Max to do teams or zoom meetings AND maybe make a few UA-cam videos. What I’m trying to have is something too that creates some filters to hide old ass wrinkles. So I have OBS on my PC, have iPhone, what is best way to do this that is simple for not so technical people???
#Own3dGiveaway I’m new to being a creator I’m trying to get myself established. I don’t have much experience and have never streamed before, however I will be streaming soon and already make content. I don’t know what overlays are but this is a giveaway and I could use the freebies 😂. I’m also sure you have a video out about overlays and such so I’ll check that out as well.
#Own3dGiveaway Unique Blue Stream Overlay Template Package PERFECT TO START A NEW YEAR! MAYBE WINNING A THEME TO STREAM WITH! GOODLUCK EVERYONE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Audio slipped a bit in the upload, so my lips are exactly 3 frames behind my audio, but didn't notice it until it released. Sorry about that! Figured out the issue, and it won't happen again. Have a lovely day! Happy streamin'!
Canceled… jkjk 💜
I noticed this is the vdo.ninja test I did. What fix did you use?
@@ShawnRaythe delay wasn’t VDO Ninja, it was the audio timeline slipping.
VDO Ninja delay is due to internet speed, it has to send the camera to the website and then to OBS. Genuinely surprised how little delay it is after all that.
its because all 3 of these apps lag lmao
I wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say it, now I can't unsee it! Lol 🤣
i love that you include the downside. most reviews don't add those. i sub instantly
The editing on this video is great. The content itself is amazing too. I'm always baffled by people doing how to videos about a subject while showing themselves doing a poor job at it. You definitely set the bar high showing the tools and showing yourself doing a great job at it. It's very useful and your pace is perfect. I don't have to listen to you in x1,5 because you're just fast enough. It's all great!
0:01 Bro I literally thought I was the only person that tested a cameras frame right by doing what I call the one armed tidal wave!
You're literally doing EXACTLY what I do when I test a cameras FPS! It honestly made me choke a bit on the Pepsi I'm drinking
because it caught me off guard and made me laugh! Small world!
I just started streaming a week ago and I have wanted to get a Handcam! This video came out perfect timing!
Magic!
Amazing video Eljay!
This is going to help a tonne of creators new and old. And thanks for letting help with the testing too!
Couldn’t have done it without you
Your videos are so helpful! Thank you!
I want to believe that I willed this video into existence by asking about this on the discord
No, that’s just how much our phones whatch us
I’ll always support Aussie UA-camrs. Thanks for a fantastic video mate and enjoy the summer
I love the glitch pro. I use that one currently, I previously used dark glitch. My gaming chair is black and white though so it fits my on screen look better 🙌
any mac users like me you can use continuity camera on your iphone there’s no delays and it doesn’t get too hot but still a little. not all iphones are supported and you can’t use two at once or leave the wifi network but for me it works perfectly and doesn’t need a download
I have both a Mac and a built windows pc. If I could use own3d pro on my Mac computer I totally would love to use my iPhone 14 Pro Max camera as my video overlay. But the packages I purchased via Own3d Pro keep me streaming on my built PC. The starting soon, BRB, Ending stream & Just chatting scenes are well worth using my PC.
Damn, now I just need to know how to setup continuity cam on my iphone and mac. Does it still work with OBS like that?
AWESOME!!! You helped a lot with the Epocam not connecting to the laptop
!!!
Is there a way to rotate the iPhone camera that’s filming? I want to film vertically but when I hold my phone vertically, it just zooms in from the horizontal video instead of rotating the camera, so my video ends up being zoomed in. I’ve tried rotating the aspect ratio and it just zooms in more from the horizontal camera. If that makes sense, is there a solution? Thanks
This was very informative and helpful. Thank you very much!
Excellent info
i prefer "ip webcam" and then going the way of adding it as a browser source. no frills and it just works.
how you do that?
How did you say you made it horizontal? Because I turned my phone and it didn't do anything
where can i find a video on how to make obs stop moving slow when i started recording
Thank you I subbed you’re funny.
Firstly, thank you for all this info! I have an IPhone 13 and a Macbook Air. I'd like to start making reels for YT and would prefer to have two cameras so I may have A and B rolls to use for editing. Could you please point me in the right direction of which device has better recording between the two and if I should buy a webcam to use with one or the other device (whichever one is recommended). Also, how do I get A and B rolls of the same quality? I tried recording with the built-in cameras of my IPhone and Macbook, and when I edited using both rolls you can clearly see the difference in imaging as to which is the IPhone and which is the Mac. Once I decide on which device to use, do I buy two webcams to attach to it so I can get the dual rolls I need? Any and all info is greatly appreciated!
I get a blue screen saying I’ve added a browser set the url to page you’d like ? How do I get picture on
I wish there a way to use the extra Samsung S23+ that I got as a webcam without any additional software.
Mostly because I don't like adding any extra lag or any extra loss in frame rate while gaming etc. due to there
being a completely separate software such as (CAMO) requiring to be open at the same time as OBS while at
the same time whatever game I'm playing is open. It's very demanding on most PCs. I can still definitely get
away with it and that's what I've been doing thus far, but I feel like there's got to be a better way! To be fair I
haven't watched this video yet. Perhaps you give me a better option than using CAMO?
THANK YOU
Thank you!
please is there a way to use this in horizontal format
Reason why i search this up is because i have a google pixel 6, with a Very Good Camera that has 4k60, and its far better then the Webcameras i have lol
NO ONE ASKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
does it overheat?
@@deadmanwalking_warfarescroll past then kid. Comments are for people to share their opinions and thoughts, stfu about it.
GET OUT!!!
@@deadmanwalking_warfare well i was wondering why people would not use webcams
So im glod he wrote this comment
No OnE AsKeD
What an backward
This is completely unrelated to the video, I just found it funny: You look a lot like Brian Daboll, current head coach of the New York Giants, with that bald filter.
i have epoccam pro and have been a user for about a yr now using it thru wifi is honestly buns just use a decent lighting cable only plus is when you leave it on auto it will automatically switch
Glad it works for you! I wasn’t implying that it wouldn’t work for anyone, just that it doesn’t for me and none of their documentation helps.
Thank you! Important question, please: I use the elgato facecam through obs as my cat cam; can I use the iphone with epoccam through camera hub at the same time for another use?
Test it and see :) otherwise use the other option I suppose.
Though I’d use a phone as a cat cam, and the elgato as the other cam
how do i get faster delay with the camera on vdo ninja?
for me epoc wont work wired and only Connect wirelesly
you are so helpful! And god bless you for saying dollar-e-doos I almost spit out my coffee hahah
So how do you add both face and gameplay in OBS and Twitch Studios Beta?
Thanks
Is there a way to use video ninja for recording rather than just streams? Or some other (free or cheap) tool? I use OBS for recording and I've been using my phone camera. There was an easy way to set it up on Mac and I don't even remember what I did, but now I have a windows PC and wanted to use it for recording sometimes. All I could find was the OBS camera app, which I have to either pay monthly for to remove the watermark, or pay $70 lifetime fee. For something that I only plan to use to make my phone a camera, which I can already do free on my Mac, I can't justify spending that.
Just send the video from VDO Ninja to OBS, and hit record in OBS, simple.
Is there a way to be wired up with obs
yes with elgato camera hub
is there a method to do this via USB so i dont have to use phone on wifi or data ?
use camo its free and a lot better than either of these options and you can just plug it in
@@MalHerweynen its this an app called "camo" ?
@@b4g4b3l yeah it's on all platforms it's what I use
Video quality is good, just having an issue switching between phone and other cam. Seems to be a 1 or 2 second delay. Is this normal? Thanks
Why do we refresh when scene becomes active? When switching from other scenes to this one, it's quite annoying to not have it directly appear, but take a second to load. What happens if we unclick that option? I am using it without it and haven't have any problems yet. I am curious.
Because most people don’t have PC’s and internet good enough to have it running endlessly in the background
If i stream from console, aka ps5, would i need a capture card for all of this? I really been tryna figure this out
Better off having a PC with OBS installed, and then you can run your console THROUGH a capture card to the PC into OBS, and stream off the PC.
Console streamers can’t do much without that set up.
@@StreamScheme would a laptop be okay? And W streamer. I appreciate it alot tbh
@@StreamScheme What if, I just need the tv?, what I mean is I want to make a reaction channel and I would love to watch what I'm reacting to throug my tv and not my pc... I still need a capture card?
this website it is safely ?
were i paste the link in OBS ?????
Don’t need the filter I already look like an old balding man.
Mine just won’t connect my phone to my laptop😭😭 the image just stays as that blue loading screen thing saying to enter the link to obs
#Own3dGiveaway - would take a new overlay or some subbadges for sure. I m in dire need of those 😂
So epoch doesn't go with obs
right
😭🙏you're literally bae rn.
i dont see anyone else with this problem but after a short period of time (30-60 seconds) my vodninja feed freezes on obs, not in my phone though, just my pc. is there a fix for this? i cant find a fix anywhere and it’s driving me mad
same have you figured it out yet
@Slay_Jaymake sure you’re using the vodninja app on your phone rather than the website, also have your phone plugged in to charge if you can, i did both of those things and it fixed it
@ ok ✅ thanks
@Slay_Jay np, let me know if that works!
I cannot get this to work at all. I need help!!!
Same
That first one I might just do
I tried Epoc Cam and epoc cam pro and on multiple occasions it would randomly disconnect my phone during my stream, leaving me with a big black box on live stating "no webcam connected" or something like that. Would not recommend that one.
I didn't have that issue :) But yes its dodgy sometimes as I explain.
Do I understand correctly that this web-app basically sends the data through the web, and back to my pc? Why? I have it connected through usb directly.
Two apps, one is a web browser app that doesn’t need to be connected. The other is the elgato tool which can be either but many can’t get working wirelessly.
Does anyone else get a black screen when they copy the url link or is just me?
but I can't get higher than 1920 1080
any app u can go to homescreen and camera will still be working, having ur phone open to that app the entire time seems difficult to do
69th like, nice. That squirtle squad LED light is cool. I got gifted a Metroid one by partner, but it flickers on camera. Is this something that I need a better camera to resolve, because the anti flicker settings on my webcam don't help. A friend told me a camera where you can control the shutter speed is key. I know this is off topic, but any help would be cool. Keep up the awesome videos man!
I think any camera you use you need ISO, Shutterspeed, and F Stop control. It’s the triangle of exposure.
The LED flickers because it’s hz are syncing with the cameras frames per second. It often happens when you’re shooting a format like PAL, but the light runs a current that is from America NTSC, or it’s just cheap manufacturing.
Changing your shooting format, FPS, and lowering shutterspeed are the solutions to the flicker.
@@StreamScheme appreciate the heads up, will look at those different aspects and see if I can sort it :)
How do I input into my obs?
do any of these work on discord
for some reason when i use my phone as a vdo ninja on obs it only picks up the sound on the phone and not my mic got any tips?
There’s a setting on vdo ninja that lets you switch to no audio from the camera
I tried connecting my Iphone 11 to my windows 10 monitor + PC/"box" through Wifi but it didn't work. I tried by connecting my computer with my Iphone though wires and it didn't work either. What am I doing wrong? Do I need a specific app to connect through wifi or a specific cord? I literally cannot continue streaming without setting this up.
I only get a messege with the password is incorect on my phone?! Ive tried 8 times with new rooms, what am i doing wrong??
HELP MY CAMERA WONT FLIP TO THE SIDE WHEN I TURN MY PHONE HOW DO I FIX THIS
Dude, I've been hitting my head against the wall with tech issues for three days. You are the fucking man.
My OBS wont flip between horizontal and vertical now matter how furiously i swap, tilt and setting!!
oh. Its cus i had a rotation lock on the phone. Well then.
Thank you so much, couldn't figure this out either 😅
Own3d giveaway?? lol my i5 wants to spark when I used my ow3d pro plug in scenes lol
It won't change to landscape for me
lmao if I knew there was an app beforehand I would've done that and not the browser, maybe that should go before the instructions in the future
It's done in this order because not everyone can use Elgato, since it only works with certain devices (and barely works.)
Starting with Elgato would essentially exclude a huge section of the audience, so instead I give everyone the option I use thats fully wireless, free, AND can be used by anyone, then show the one that costs money, barely works, and doesn't work for everyone.
Hope that explains the logic
cant get rid of the black bars so its kinda useless which sucks is it because i didnt pay for it
I myself started making videos for my UA-cam channel and I have ngl found your UA-cam channel and the way you explain things is very helpful . For now I just have low spec phone not as good as 300$ to 500$ dollor phones but everything have a solution so I'm making use of it . I would love to start streaming if I can have a Decent PC or if I can also show myself in me gameplay videos. Love your channel ❤🎉
Just glad the videos help :) hope you’re enjoying creating!
@@StreamScheme Yes I'm !! Will upload a gameplay today y as new year special and I will be looking forward for more of your videos :D . Also joined the discord just now and I hope that will be a lot of help 💖
#Own3dGiveaway A simple Dark Mode overlay of course
What webcam do you use when not using your phone
I started with a c922 and good lighting
Will this cause a lot of use in bandwidth ? Thought about doing this but I figured having my phone using wifi while I’m streaming and gaming (via ethernet) would just be another added device on the internet and my internet is already bad where I live. Anyone have issues with this? Or has it been fine
Yep, you’re sending the camera over the internet, so it absolutely adds to it. Hence why my shots don’t look amazing all the time, my internet wifi is fast but unstable.
Does this still work?
yes
@@StreamScheme okey great
See that’s funny I could never get epoc cam pro to work wired, only would work wirelessly, I tried everyone of my chargers however I didn’t own the official apple charger.
OMGGGGGGGGGGG WORKED
Ds Link not working
Hi and thanks for this video.
Personally I use prism lens, for me it has less lag than VDO ninja.
In your description box, you talk about white balance.
Did you explained how to correct it on OBS please ?
I didn't found the answer or didn't understand. 🧐
(My english is not perfect)
You don’t correct white balance in OBS :) you set it on the camera and lights, only adjust in OBS IF it’s adjusting the camera settings and not just editing the image.
Where’s his discord?
#Own3dGiveaway I just want some good elements for making my stream look professional...🙂
Entered :) will announce soon!
#Own3dGiveaway I think either some Twitch or UA-cam badges would be nice additions to any stream.
The instructions for the vdoninja app are unclear
i figured out how to use it but it keeps freezing which makes no sense I have fiber optic
#own3dgiveaway nice overlays would be great. Tyvm
I think you forgot the new android 14 feature that allows you to plug some phones in with a cable and use them as a webcam.
Nah, just trying to cover tools that anyone can use or the most focused on streaming. VDO ninja anyone can use, Epoccam is focused.
Nice video, might use it when i wanna show my steering wheel
Also #Own3dGiveaway and i would like the synthrunner overlay pack
Synth is a sick pack! I considered it when I was starting.
#Own3dGiveaway I wouldn't mind looking in to some transition and vtuber models!
#own3dGivaway I'd go for the glitch package I like that one
#Own3dGiveaway I’d pick up the Console streaming package as I’ve been a fan of PlayStation ever since I was a kid. 🎮
Spaceship Stream Overlay Template Package is the one i wanna get for the #Own3dGiveaway
#Own3dGiveaway Thank you for the tips for new streamers. I've suscribed for more.
#Own3dGiveaway I'd be getting some overlays and or transitions I have some now but I could possibly use more
Hello, can anyone help me? I’m OLD, and I simply want to use my iPhone 14 Pro Max to do teams or zoom meetings AND maybe make a few UA-cam videos. What I’m trying to have is something too that creates some filters to hide old ass wrinkles. So I have OBS on my PC, have iPhone, what is best way to do this that is simple for not so technical people???
Bro literally just trynna get one to work on my phone.. that’s it..
#Own3dGiveaway Not sure what I’d use it for yet, most likely an overlay as I don’t have one yet!
#Own3dGiveaway I need all the overlays, revamping my stream and all that to start streaming again!
#Own3dGiveaway I'm definitely in need of some animated sub emotes, that's for sure!
#Own3dGiveaway
I’m new to being a creator I’m trying to get myself established. I don’t have much experience and have never streamed before, however I will be streaming soon and already make content. I don’t know what overlays are but this is a giveaway and I could use the freebies 😂. I’m also sure you have a video out about overlays and such so I’ll check that out as well.
#Own3dGiveaway i would pick up some emotes for my twitch channel
#Own3dGiveaway - I would get badges for my subs (surprisingly I’ve got to a point where I need more 😊)
#Own3dGiveaway
Unique Blue Stream Overlay Template Package
PERFECT TO START A NEW YEAR! MAYBE WINNING A THEME TO STREAM WITH! GOODLUCK EVERYONE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!
I can't get the app to work for the life of me
Oh also #Own3dGiveaway
I'm interesed to see anything whatever it will be :D