That AD and Damian over Dwight thing really blows my mind, considering that AD never have carried a team on his own to reach a single final or even a conference final. Actually, Dwight deserves the top 50 instead of top 75.
The Alex English snub was one of the biggest surprises...dude was one of the best NBA players during the 1980's.I ran into him a few years ago when he stopped by my job.Alex hits the gym regularly apparently....he still looked athletic and in playing shape.lol
Man when Reggie Miller got the news that he made it , his reaction was priceless because he thought it was a joke but like man , I’m so so happy for him , despite he broke knicks fans hearts in the 90s , he was absolutely clutch and a helluva 3 point shooter in his prime
He was so much better than what people give him credit for. Beyond the ppg and other stats…the man flat out owned moments. End of game with one shot to win, I still lump him with Bird and Allen as top choices for me.
Yeah he’s probably top 100, but top 75 seems a bit much for a guy that has never made the finals or been more than 4th in MVP voting Love Dame as he is one of the best scorers and shooters we’ve ever seen TBH I was thinking Kyrie had a better chance of making the list, but still glad Dame made it
As a person who hopes Dame goes to my Knicks because he could probably get MVP and finally play with a defensive team, I do think he doesn’t belong in the Top 75 if he just entered his prime like 1 or 2 years ago
Tony Parker won 4 nba finals & 1 finals mvp, ranks 9th in pts scored in playoffs history and 5th in assists. No matter how good Dame is if he's on the list but Tony isnt, well yeah I have a problem with it.
The 75 list is for popularity. Dame still has alot to prove and they should have waited him and ad till 100th. I think they could have looked at other players. Parker, dwight, vc, big ben, pau, motumbo, Penny, grant, tmac
I have a problem with Alex English not on this 75th anniversary team. The leading scorer of the whole decade of the 1980s and he is not on the team. That is ridiculous!!
Tony Parker was on an elite team and his stats are inflated because of how many games he played. I'll give you points, but assists? Not even top five compared to othe point guards. He'll, he wasn't even top five point guards. And Ginobili is arguably the second best player on the Spurs.
@@younglove3362 its actually the opposite. Pop system really was built around selfless basketball, extrapass and using every player as a whole. Just look at Kawhi stats when on the spurs and after the spurs. He didn't become amazing after the spurs, he already was but the system was not around him, and wasn't around Tony neither.
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Dikembe Mutombo isn't talked about, or why he isn't on this list? So, there's NO praise for all-time level defense? 8x All Star 2x TRB Champ 3x BLK Champ 3x All-NBA 6x All-Defensive 1991-92 All-Rookie 4x Def. POY 10x All-League 2nd All-time Blocks 20th All-time Rebounds
He's the worst of the 90's center and he never could score 20ppg. It's like how Mike Conley is always overlooked because there are way too many other players at that position that are just better. Period.
@@blackphillip564 yet 1 dimentional players that only score can make the list. Meanwhile a top defence wins the chip every year... hmmm. Id also question is 10pts a game more valuable than 0.1 steals/blocks?
Was robbed by wasting his prime on the nets. Had he been sent to a contender in that infamous 04-05 season, he probably wins a ring or makes a Finals appearance.
@@thischanneldoesnotexist.750 doesn't change his talent though. He in fact himself admitted as he plays for the love of the game and not for winning. Talent wise he was better than pierce and westbrook. Tmac was even better than him his peak was just shorter. Its all about accolades though which makes it a longer list while looking at numbers but at eye test they were at least better than pierce on the list.
@@artix003 I dont agree that hes better than pierce, however, I also agree that this list is much too based on accolades. T-Mac, Bernard King, and to a lesser extent carter could have absolutely made the list if it wasn't
@@thischanneldoesnotexist.750 bad take? Got worse? Let me correct you. The NJN started the season 4-13 including a 9 game losing streak before VC's arrival. They finished the season 3rd in the East so what bad take arw you talking about.
Let's remember also that Tony Parker made the floater used widely in the NBA nowadays.... Isn't it the mark of the great when players use a move popularized by another player ? I think generally Europeans has been snubbed on this vote... Pau Gasol should have also be on this list. He also won Rookie of the year in 2002 almost tied with.... Tony Parker...
Dwight definitely deserved to be on this list. 8x all star, 3x defensive player of the year, 4x all defensive first team, led the NBA in rebounding 5 times, and an NBA championship. Need I say more? As well as T Mac. If it weren’t for his injuries he could’ve been a better player than what he was.
Great video as always. As the biggest Dame fan outside of the PNW and Oakland, I’ll be the first to say too early for him to be on this list. Glad Dominique got his due and thanks for giving Joe D some love.
I don’t think too early. Dudes stats and accolades better than a lot of guys on the list, and he plays in the same conference and era as the goat PG steph curry (undermines his greatness) while never having good enough teammates to help get him a ring. Easily a HOFer and deserves the list especially if guys like AD making it.
@@trey8725 Because that series was one-on-one? Davis didn't beat Lillard. Davis and a far superior Pelicans team beat Lillard and the baggage he has to drag into the playoffs every year.
Voters don't give a sh*t about defense. None of the guys tied with the most Defensive player of the year titles got in... Sure, they had bad (perhaps pitiful) offensive stats. But only 1 DPOY behind them is Dwight, with an average of 20(+) points in his carreer. You can remove the argument of "all defense, no offense" and still didn't make it. Which means they probably overlooked defense accomplishments entirely
Lol, unfortunately i think there's no chance we'll see him added also in that list, cuz Repoters and the others dont care if you've been an elite Defender, and also the best UNDRAFTED player of all time, if you're point records are absolutely awful. I wish he'll make it one day, but I see no hope😔
Nah. A lot of it was these politics of leaving the 50 best from before the voters even watched the league. A lot of those old role players shouldn't be on the list compared to legends from the 2000s
Howard is missed for sure, but I would say Mt. Mutombo also deserves the list. 8x All Star 3x All-NBA 4x DPOY 6x All Defense 2x Rebound leader 3x Block leader. Seems like defense doesn't get enough credit in this list. Sidney Moncrief and Ben Wallace should be included as well.
AD is just a better player than Dwight. Not saying Dwight is or was a scrub but he has always been one dimensional on offense. In his prime he could score based just on his athleticism. He never worked on his game or developed a jump shot. He'll be a surefire HOF'er but even in his prime he was not better than AD. I think prime Amar'e Stoudemire was better than prime Dwight.
😂😂😂 I was born in 1978 and have been watching the NBA since 1992. Dwight was no doubt a better defensive player and AD is soft and overrated but the facts are the facts......he can do more on the court than Dwight. He can shoot, he can hit free throws and after injuries took away Dwight's athleticism he has been a shell of the player he was. Even after injuries, AD has been great.
Lillard made the cut having little to No awards nor accolades in his resume’ yet howard who has all the pieces to make it in the top 75th didn't make the cut 😂😂
Nba players know how much of a best he was. I respect all of those Spurs players for putting the team first and never taking their eyes off of what wins games. They made big sacrifices to their individual stats to be in that system
Reggie Miller imo was part of the beginning of "spreading the floor" that Dirk solidified. There was no doubt that, with Michael out of the way, Indiana flourished because of this. You had to watch those outlet passes to him. And he had SUCH manic energy. He was firing on all cylinders the moment he came near the arena, never mind the parquet floor. Bob McAdoo was easy money too with his 10-12 footers, even at the end of his career with the Lakers. Look at some of their old tapes and you'll see him firing the shot from 50 feet in the air. A guaranteed swoosh. He was another favorite. And if Giannis keeps on this career upward trajectory, this guy will own the NBA. His championship run was incredible. I was disappointed for Chris Paul, as I'd like him to get a ring (Devin Booker will get his, don't worry). But Giannis, man...just incredible.
His cocaine alcohol addiction plus he chock out a woman back in the day while being faded...yeah he wasn't getting in lol but yeah he was a beast def deserve it over some of these current players
Not even top 300. Maybe the most overrated player of all time and I watched over 98% of all his games. Compare him to Alonzo Mourning for example...not even in the same ballpark.
Yeh but he was never even considered a superstar while he was playing. His highlight reel of clutch shots is the only reason people who didn’t watch basketball during that era think he was so great. He was barely a top 10 player in the league during his prime.
And guys such as Alex English and Adrian Dantley were a lot more potent, if less entertaining. Love my Raptors-era VC. Those playoff series in 00-01 were EPIC joy/agony, some of my favorite b-ball ever watched on TV.... but he was too inconsistent to be called an elite player after that. He's being celebrated (partly) for his longevity and fine character. Which is nice, but not any sort of definitive comparison of player-to-player's achievements.
This is cold water to the face. The current state of NBA's priorities in rules & officiating is even wonkier than we ever noticed, because it gradually happened over ten yrs of ~2005-2015. _In any other era '26 adds and not a single Center' would cause ppl to question what sport are we even talking about._
Really can’t believe Pau Gasol got snubbed from that 75th anniversary team list , arguably one of the best centers in the late 2000s on those Lakers teams .. just unbelievable
Miller is like Vince Carter. They both created this bizarre aura around them from superfical things. Reggie Millers entire career was the '94 and '95 playoff series with the Knicks and Carter's entire legacy is the 2000 dunk contest.
@@blackphillip564 i give ya that, i just would say the first 8 yrs of vinces career dunks + the dunk contest are his thing. He is unquestionably the best in game dunker ever
Although i feel he should've made it i can kind of understand t-mac because of his injuries cutting his career short it's unfortunate. But vince carter and Dwight Howard not making it is ridiculous
I think with Vince it’s because he never worked to improve his game (has admitted this) plus the way things went down with his exit from Toronto hurt him too
@@LHRKiiDfLaSh For those who really know, Nets Vince was better than Raptors Vince. He never said he didn't work to improve his game...he said when one is more gifted, one could get away with some things a less gifted player couldn't get away with. In the context of his discussion with John Thompson, he wasn't implying that he wasn't a hard worker at all. Coach Thompson has come to his defense on this.
Too many current players and to many who really didn't accomplish anything but being able to score. Basketball is a team game where you play to win championships. You are correct about Dumars. I would add Dennis Johnson. Three championships with two teams. It seems, like with the Dumars snub, flash and popularity were more important than results....
I can't believe 2 things: 1. There weren't 26 players in the past 25yrs better than the 50th best from 25yrs ago 2. And the nba didn't have the balls to release the list in order
And the most ridiculous thing is that there's not a single Center in that new 26. If this happened in any other era people would say that's not even basketball anymore.
I feel like there was some pre-planned thing going on here. Like maybe voters could only vote for 25 new players, instead of all 75. Because it's quite a coincidence that 11 active players were chosen this time, just like in 1996 when 11 active players were also chosen. Hmm
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Chris Webber. He's my #2 top snub after Dwight. Also agree on Vince, T-Mac, Dumars. As a Pistons fan I was happy to see Rodman included. Also IIRC McAdoo and Wilkins were considered the 2 biggest snubs from the 50th list so that got righted. Also they included players who could've been like Shaq and be on the 50th list like Payton and Reggie.
Klay Thompson is more deserving than overrated Reggie Miller, and CWebb's prime was too short to be on the list....Earl Monroe shouldn't be there either
They forgot about Benard King Jack Sikma and Sidney Moncrief!! These guys were the UNSUNG backbone of the NBA in the late 70s & through to the early 80s
Bernard King’s prime was way too short and while he was a walking bucket, there are so many other players better at the small forward position. Sidney Moncrief definitely deserved a spot on this list tho.
Dwight not making it in is a crime against basketball. Dame and AD made it in prematurely. I believe they’ll make the 100 list but it’s too premature for them. Edit: Parker and Manu sacrificed so much for that Spurs dynasty that it hurt their case for an individual award.
Manu was a supporting role player for those championship teams. He was never a franchise player or even 2nd option at any point in his career. It's like making an argument for draymond being a better player than harden.
@@daebak7370 you dont know wtf youre talking about Manu sacrificed his spot and fame. He and greg pop discussed it. He can easily be a starter and play more minutes but he would be less efficient because his playstyle required more energy and risk. So for the good of the Spurs dynasty he came off the bench for instant energy and offense allowing tim and tony more rest. When the game is close, he was always in the lineup guarding some of the best. Hes not a role player in a traditional sense. The spurs big 3 were Tim, Tony, AND Manu.
@@tien5tri I know Manu could be a starter for teams but he would not be a franchise caliber or #1 option caliber player was my point. He's a good player but very overrated by fans. He's the shooting guard version of draymond.
@@daebak7370 no i disagree. Hes not a draymomd. Hes a kevin mchale, as duncan was to larry bird. Manu was 2nd option after Tim except for that time Tony parker went off in the finals. I truly believe you can build a team off Manu with his skill and drive and it would be successful. You cant do that with Draymond. Manu proved that he can be the "Guy" in the olympics
the biggest flaw was the original 50 being locked in. there are more than 26 top 75 all time players in the last 25 seasons. were in the most talented era of the league
Except for a few older NBA players, most people voting are in the current time so there's some bias involved. Lillard shouldn't be on this list by hitting logo 3's, there are people that have done more than him. AD is controversial too, being second best for a championship shouldn't put him above Dwight, Pau Gasol or Tony Parker.
That's the unanswered question for all individual awards. Well, and for the NCAA football playoffs as well. The more specific and defined the criteria, the more valid the list. And it seems like none of these awards make any attempt at all beyond a few generalities.
@@icupnibba3533 a HOT Klay Thompson is THE BEST SHOOTER I'VE EVER SEEN, including steph curry. This dude put up 37 points in ONE quarter, he almost SINGLEHANDEDLY saved the warriors from elimination in game 6 against the thunder in 2016, and he has broken or tied the most threes in a single game record a few times now. I kinda understand him getting snubbed tho. All his individual success happened when he always had better players than him on his team
Setting the record for 3s in one game should’ve been enough to get him in the conversation. Also setting the record for 3s in a playoff game should’ve solidified it. Idc if Dame took it, he set a precedent
@@whodat787 idk bro, I think him and Steph are realistically neck and neck on that squad. Ik it’s a hot take. Steph’s a lil better as a shooter and is the offensive focal point, but Klay offers almost the same threat and also is a defensive beast
@@squidtortellini559 klay is a much better defender than steph is, no question there. But klay can't create his own offense for himself the way that steph can. Steph's ball handling and finishing ability allows him to create his own shot whenever he wants to, and klay can't quite do that. That's what puts steph above klay imo
Allen also is the 2nd best 3-Point-Shooter of all time and was for a couple of years Number 1. That, too, gives him an added edge, I think. And 2 rings.
It's too bad Sabonis and Nikos Galis never got to show off in the NBA during their primes. We have only bits such as Olympic-era Sabonis, or Galis schooling a young MJ in an exhibition game. While Drazan Petrovic was taken IN his prime.
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@@ursula3438 great point. As far as pure physical talent Tmac and Vince were better and had a more freakishly athletic and fan friendly play style. But Ray and pierce (especially Ray) just knew how to play winning basketball more then Vince and tmac
Yep, I remember VC used to cook Pierce and Allen on the regular. Pierce, Allen and KG just had the good fortune of uniting on the Celtics to win a ring, which greatly enhanced their legacies.
When was the last time a center was the best player on an NBA finals team? Dwight Howard. It's insane that he was left off. 4-time DPOY that was also great offensively
The scariest thing about DH is that if he had followed all the suggestions that Charles Barkley had made on NBA Live on TNT back 10+ years ago on how to improve his offensive game, DH would have been a more muscular, faster, more agile and powerful version of Shaq!
T-Mac led teams are always eliminated in the 1st round. Before the big 3 both Allen and Pierce led their teams in the eastern conference finals even when Allen was traded to the Sonics he led his team to the West semis.
Paul had Antoine Walker another All Star and Ray Allen played Glen Robinson All star and Sam Cassell an Elite Pg at the time…Carter and Tmac best counterparts were old veteran guys or young and inexperienced. If they stuck together in Toronto were looking at completely different spectrum of Vince Carter and Tmac today, they would have had a better team they were individually better than Paul Pierce and Ray Allen
When was it Tmac was supposed to win? Tmac had bad teams and in his peak was considered better than kobe. A top 11 player all time and you sittng here making fun of a legend because of his front offices 🤣
@@YakDPOY he didn't need a ring to prove himself, or even a finals appearance, but look at how weak the east was. Shaq, Duncan, Nowitzki, Garnett, Kobe, and Nash were all out west. If TMac were as good as billed, that means he was the best player in his conference. The next best being Kidd? It's not like he ran into a buzz saw Boston big 3, or the Wade & Shaq Heat. He couldn't beat a Hornets team with Mashburn in street clothes, and nobody headed for Springfield. In Houston he had Yao, Artest or Ariza, Battier, and got Utah as first round draw twice. How sorry an opponent did he need to win a series? If you can only win against cardboard cutouts, or when you have multiple Hall of fame teammates, are you really an all timer? He chose Orlando, and as soon as he left Toronto his cousin did win a playoff series.
@@75aces97 Orlando is a job he signed up for an had grant hill break down on him halfway through the first season. You suggesting a bad roster thats also missing a guy whom at one point was considered the future goat should be winning chips? You suggesting basketballs a 1 v 1 sport? I dont subsrcibe to the notion if you had 1 guy in the east you auto win. Anytime you got a high paid player getting paid to rehab/come back and is a shell of former self, you tend to lose more games. Its 5 v 5 sport with best players around the world , each getting paid their worth to keep teams even and you think teamates dont matter or losing a 1A 1B guy dont matrer? Im kind of baffled you expected more of that magic team. Anyway, i not even sitting here saying tmacs the greatest. Im just laughing at the dude for putting down a legend based off B.S. Kobe literally called tmac the taller version of himself and he was that guy everyone thought was something special when they played him. Have you ever seen him play? That man came in as a defender and turned into tall Kobe. "Tmac lead teams that were always eliminated in the first round", i never suggested tmac was the GOAT or anything. Im just pointing out how dumb that statement is
@@75aces97 Shaq, duncan, kobe, nash arent teams by the way. Those are just players. Kidd is also, just a player. If kidd is with gleaguers he is probably a less winning player than if he had a good solid nba players around him
Biggest snubs are TP and Pau. I know it's a Nba ranking but what they did with their national team is unbelievable and they were also deserving even if we took only the NBA into account. TP is a Finals mvp, 4x champion and Pau gasol was a beast before going to LA and then won 2 championships there while being the 2nd best player (maybe the best in 2010 finals).
@@corkyqwerty well his organization did a fucking terrible job at putting people that were actually good around him. Only good move they made during the AD era was bringing in Cousins, but injuries stopped that. Don’t blame AD for an incompetent front office that just fumbled Lonzo Ball and put their future with Zion in question lol
Im late on this but I was shocked that Alonzo Mourning wasn't on this list. I know that he had kidney disease in 2000 and he made a comeback. But he had a great NBA career. 7x All-Star 2006 NBA Champion with the Heat 2× Defensive Player of the Year. A gold medal in the 2000 Summer Olympics. I felt like he is slept on.
Another snub: Chris Mullin - Part of the original Dream Team of 1992,as one of the elite then NBA players.Many a time all star,top scorer,shooter,and underrated defender.A legend of the Golden State Warriors.
I'm fine with keeping everyone from the original list, imagine in 50 years people asking who Kobe was and wanting to take him out, some respect is deserved
So instead leave out younger dudes that could easily have an argument for being on the list? I understand the respect but the new guys that WOULDVE made it deserve respect too
@@alexescutia4805 Many will be left out, snubs gonna happen, just saying I'm not cool with taking out Paul Arizin or Dolph Schayes for Tmac and Pau Gasol for example, because people will want to take Kobe out for new guys decades from now
Because he's doing so much with so little. He's putting up the numbers he does and carrying teams through the playoffs despite having by far the worst supporting cast of any player on the list. You put Westbrick or Harden on the Blazers instead of Lillard, they miss the playoffs every season for sure.
@@ryanchase9332 werent russ and harden dragging their teams to the playoffs pretty much solo both of their mvp seasons though? i just saw the rest of your comment and think youre wrong.. for both of them lol
I think Reggie was chosen because of how he was able to carry the pacers and you cant think of the pacers without Reggie Miller. Like wilkins to the hawks
@@jimmykarlsson2567 That was Jalen Rose’s year and Reggie had a decent squad around him. Reggie was an 18 - 3 and 3 guy. All those years in the league and couldn’t make it happen. Nah. Clutch at times but that’s it.
@@ericfinch7392 First of all, let's see Tony or Manu get handed the keys to a franchise for 9 years and see how much success THEY would have without the GOAT power forward. Second, wtf you mean they had the wrong people picking the players?!
Damian lillard over guards like Tony Parker and Rajon Rondo is one of the biggest crimes I’ve seen and I like lillard, Dwight and Dikembe not being on it for Centers is criminal too
LOL his era was the the "no big man" era. Shaq and Duncan got old and Emiid, Giannis, AD, and Jokic did arive yet. Dwight would have been Alonzo Mourning at best during the 90s. Hakeem, young Shaq, Big Patrick Ewing, and David Robinson would have made Dwight reconsier is life choses.
About Reggie. I think you left out an important point. Reggie's clutch shooting and leadership for the Pacers were also probably considered., the highlights and stats don't say enough about what he did for that franchise. Not top 50 but 75 is a no brainer to me.
Some people are forgetting this is called the NBA’s “greatest” players list, not “best”… someone can be great to the game without being the best at the game
So just checked. Moncrief, Howard, Mutombo and big Ben own more than one third of all DPOY awards ever given. None of those guys got in. Damn. These voters really hated defense.
None of the guys tied with the most Defensive player of the year titles got in... Sure, they had bad (perhaps pitiful) offensive stats. But only 1 DPOY behind them is Dwight, with an average of 20(+) points in his carreer. You can remove the argument of "all defense, no offense" and still didn't make it. They probably overlooked defense accomplishments entirely.
Defense is great but by itself it's not going to make you "great" With that said i hate that some ppl like harden and melo made it. Those guys play hardly any D. Imo it should be a mixture. You shouldnt be consider some of the greatest playing only 50% of the game.
Grant hill deserves an honorable mention aswell as penny hardaway to this day no player did it all like penny did yes injuries hurt his career but in the 90s he was definitely a top 5 player such an amazing talent but hey what do I know?
50 players automatically kept…that alone prevents this new 75 best of being the true best. It’s mathematically impossible for 20 years of players to not knock off some former players. But, I get it. It would create a political storm, even more so than now. But this is not a quintessential 75 best. Klay is the biggest snub in my opinion.
Klay Thompson definitely deserves to be on the top 75. Vince Carter and Mr.13pointsin33sec even more so. I would prefer Andre Iguodala with Tony Parker and Manu the ultimate team player to make the list instead of AD and Westbrook. I'd love to see a top 75 by HOFamers, that list would be much different, I think
@GatCat But is it possible to objectively quantify which players from the original top 50 to replace? Considering how different the respective eras are a purely statistical approach wouldn't suffice, I think. What percentage of original list may be replaced? Do you use the same approach for Top 100, 125 etc or do you modify it every time? Eventually, when reaching Top 150, nobody will have watched Wilt and Kareem play and will gladly replace them with some fan-favourite from the New era. This path is a treacherous one
Klay biggest snub? hell no. Not even Top 3 snubs. Dikembe, Vince, TMac, Dwight all should‘ve all made it over Klay. Klay is a 50/50 for me. He can be on the list but I understand if he‘s not. He‘s making wayy too much buzz on social media as if he was a Top 10 player of all time that was left out
Mitch Richmond was another player overlooked because he was on bad teams. But he averaged at least 22 points a game in his first TEN seasons. Look at the list of players who have done that. It’s pretty damn small.
He made the playoffs in 4 of his 13 years, only once as his team's best player. Yes, he was saddled with some bad teams (and yes, getting traded for Billy Owens just as he hit his prime is one of the worst forgotten trades ever), but great players can elevate thin teams. Hell, Ewing carried a rotation with 3 recent CBA (G-League precursor) players into the finals, and almost never gets recognition for it.
i think lillard and Anthony Davis has recency bias on their side. but i would take Pau instead of AD. AD is top 75 talent, not player IMO. also i would take VC or Tmac over ray allen. but dwight was probably the biggest snub
Pau??? Hahaha... I remember in 08 09 when Pau averaged 17p and 9r and was considered "one of the best big men in the NBA" while Shaq also averaged 17 and 9 and was considered "washed up" haha
Nah, Pierce and Allen deserve to be over VC and Tmac, is not just the 2008 chip, they also were very close for 5 years. Plus Pierce got to the CF in 2001 also and Ray with Milwaukee in 2000. It's not even close their playoff success with VC and Tmac.
Agree on almost all points except for Vince or Tracy over Allen. I also think Tony Parker belongs on the list...Nash never even made it to the finals, he also didn't deserve those 2 MVP...Mike D's system makes every PG look like a legend:...Linsanity, Nash, Harden...it's just a huge assist boost over other systems...but this system won't work in the playoffs...we've seen it again and again....
@@Ronald5484 players can conspire to force trades too. Obviously Boston’s big three wasn’t necessarily as hyped as say Miami’s big three. But kg allen and pierce had private conversations about teaming up before that deal eventually happened
KG, Allen & Truth weren’t the first “Big 3” formed, they just were the first time modern NBA players got to choose where they wanted to play with the stars to align just right to make such a move possible. Garnett had the highest profile of the 3, but wasn’t the megastar the way LeBron or Durant were when they moved to form “superteams”. And though they made the Finals twice in their peak, the Celtics still had to deal with Kobe’s revamped Lakers, and LeBron & Dwight Howard coming into their own primes. I think we all wanted another Lakers-Celtics Finals trilogy from 2008-10, but it’s hard to say that those guys underachieved.
Thanks for letting us know you weren't watching basketball back then. In the 2008-2009 season, after Boston won 66 games (ended the Rockets 22 game win streak that season) and a championship, they started the season 27-2 with a 19 game win streak. In February, Kevin Garnett, the defensive anchor, top 2 player on the team, and the reason why Boston was amazing defensively got a season ending injury in a game at Utah. Despite this, Boston managed to adjust and still finish the season with 62 wins. In the playoffs, Boston were up 3-2 on Orlando. They couldn't seal the deal without KG and lost. In the 2009-10 season, KG returned a shell of himself. He was very skinny and didn't play like he did before the injury. During this season, Doc Rivers implemented a plan to rest his starters for the playoffs. The Celtics ended up as a 4th seed. Boston beat Cleveland, who had been the #1 seed 2 years in a row. This just proved that had KG not been injured, they would have beat Cleveland the prior year because Orlando had beat them. They had a rematch with Orlando. This time KG was back, Boston went up 3-0 then sealed the deal in 6. In the finals, Boston took a 3-2 lead against the Lakers. In game 6, Perkins had a season ending injury. If you watched basketball back then, then you'd know how much of a problem Perkins was at controlling the boards and paint. With Perkins gone, Boston got killed on the boards and paint, which led to them losing. Like Doc said, the starting lineup of Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG, and Perkins have never lost a playoff series on the floor together. It was always an injury that prevented them from winning another champion. Anyone who watched basketball back then wouldn't criticize them. Only the ignorant people who started watching basketball after 2010. That same Lakers team got beat down by the Mavs the next year, btw. Also, Ray, KG, and Pierce didn't form a 3 big. Danny Ainge traded for Ray and KG during the draft and summer to build a championship team. Big difference from LeBron running to Miami because he couldn't beat the Celtics to form a big 3 with Wade and Bosh. And it was stated by LeBron that they planned this.
SolteroConDinero The lakers missed the playoffs they add AD they win the chip When kobe was still on the lakers they got to the 2nd round they add Dwight and Nash they only make to the first round thats why neither Nash or Dwight Howard belong on the list
" greatest " should have accolades as priority dame and Reggie clearly not done enough compare to tonyparker and Dwight specially dame he may not have good support but he didn't lead the league in scoring,rebound,assist to be "greatest" he need something to back himself
It's all a matter of criteria, and the NBA 75-at-75 list's unspoken criteria is _Marketabilty._ If a player goes to NYC or LA, then consideration is boosted , and boosted by more than any skill, single ring or accolade can.
Reggie changed the game. All the 3 point specialists nowadays who are running around screens to get an open look from behind the arc are copying his style. He was also Steph's idol growing up. Plus Reggie belongs on the Mount Rushmore of shooters as does Klay, and that alone should be enough to make 75.
@@perry7595 he might not have many accolades and he had a few bad years but in his prime he was a great scorer and finish 2nd in mvp voting if i remember correctly
Going back to your point of only 1 of the 3 all time spurs players making it on the list, i feel like Manu Ginobili deserved to be on that list as well. He was a crucial piece to the Spurs championships coming off the bench and being one of the greatest 6th men in the history of the NBA. They put a player like Kevin McHale on that list for being an incredible player and sixth man and he had the exact same impact on the Celtics as much as Ginobili did on the Spurs. I dont understand how they could recognize the greatness of one player but not the greatness of another.
Manu is not on Kevin's level. Was he important to the Spurs success? Of course. That's not debatable. But he's not on that level. He was a perfect fit in his role, but he's a career 13ppg scorer who was a great glue guy
I love Lillard for sure, but he has no business being on this list period. In the future I’m sure he’ll deserve it but not right now. He has no resume. Not even a scoring title and he’s one of the best scorers in the NBA no doubt.
@@atlboytoosik6411 completely agreed. Howard and vince should make it over dame. Kyrie no. Kyrie had a young celtics team that made the ECF twice without him. Before he got injured and after he left. Lebron made the finals again with cavs without kyrie. Tbh kyrie achievements and drama with his teammates without lebron is...i dk. Dame had been carrying his team reg season and playoffs and the best teammates he ever had was aldridge and cj mccollum maybe a older melo. So imho kyrie hasnt done much witbout lebron
@@ezypeazyy No way. T-Mac was beautiful to watch but we're talking about ACHIEVEMENTS not highlights. TP has 4 rings, 1 final MVP, and despite his collective success that diluted his stats he was still 4 times in the top 10 MVP votes and in all-NBA teams. As for Pau, he wasn't flashy but very versatile and the perfect lieutenant for Kobe. They both played about 300 games more than T-Mac in the regular season and in the playoffs it's not even comparable: McGrady played in 50 games (and lost 31), Gasol played in 136 games (won 70) and Parker in 226 games (won 137). I agree T-Mac is more fun to watch but it's not what it's about. As for Alex English, like Damian Lillard or others, he was a big scorer who didn't win. To me it's not as valuable as winners. Well I don't want my message to be misunderstood: I put Howard, Parker and Gasol above the 3 you name but they're not that far behind, it's not like one or the other is absolute bullcrap. But for this ceremony Parker & Gasol & Howard were clearly ahead of them, as far as achievements and longevity go. I mean, playing FOUR TIMES more playoffs games than the player you're compared to is quite a significant margin.
@Fries DRose better get into the Hall of Fame. They put players like Tmac, Mitch Richmond, and Joe Dumars in so DRose should get in without question. And here's a legit question for you: what did Allen Iverson accomplish in his career that Derrick Rose didn't accomplish?
@Fries i agree with everything you just said. I would just like to clarify tgat i wasn't trying to imply that Iverson doesn't belong in the hof. I was just asking what did he accomplish to deserve the hof that DRose didn't accomplish. Because if you look at tgeir accomplishments side by side, they're very similar: Rookie of the year, MVP, led their respective teams to the best record in the league. And as you said Iverson did lead the league in scoring and steals which Rose has never done. But in terms of actual hardware and awards that can be accomplished in the NBA, I'm pretty sure Rose has accomplished everything that Iverson has
Ben Wallace for Anthony Davis Dwight Howard for Carmelo Anthony Tony Parker/Klay Thompson for Damian Lillard If Derrick Rose did not had any "career-ending" injuries, he would be on the list....
Not terribly different. The biggest difference would be a few old heads that didn't deserve to make it instead of a few new jacks (Melo for one) that didn't deserve it
TMac and Vince consistently missed the playoffs. They're the definition of "bad team good stats" guys. Melo made the playoffs 9 years straight, Malone made the playoffs for over a decade straight, and Barkley made the finals. Vince and TMac were missing the playoffs in a pathetically weak East in their prime.
@@vitocarlucci1114 The problem with your logic is that this so called Top 75 was not called “Top 75 That Made the Playoffs Sufficiently List”! Because then Dwight Howard most surely would’ve made it, he’s made the playoffs 12 times (10 years straight). But no, that ain’t it Vito, this list was more personal instead of completely based on stats. Dwight’s stats are off the charts w/ 8x all star, 8x all nba, 5x all def, 5x reb leader, 2x block leader, 3x DPOY, 19K point & 14K rebounds 😳, 2K blocks, and an NBA Champ. foh Adam Silver n his bs list.!!!
@@YakDPOY First of all, you haven't laid out anything. And second, if you're so keen on saying that T-Mac is so much greater than Lillard, it shouldn't be hard to explain why. I can EASILY explain why he's not, but I just wanna see what you try to claim before I do.
I’m really just disappointed on why Damian Lillard is even on this list and not Dwight Howard ? I’m really just saddened that he got taken off this list , because like of his accolades , 3X Defensive player of the year and multiple time all star
A 6x all star At most top 4 in mvp voting Best playoff run a sweep WCF (for context: Dame isnt even the reason why they are in that WCF to begin with, CJ carried him in that Denver series) And Damian Lillard is top 75 "All time". Total clown ranking
That AD and Damian over Dwight thing really blows my mind, considering that AD never have carried a team on his own to reach a single final or even a conference final. Actually, Dwight deserves the top 50 instead of top 75.
Agreed
Dennis Rodman scottie pippen list goes on and on never carried a team..ad was the best player on that lakers title run
Dwight never led a team alone either lmao
@@vintagedrugrug8637 Are you under the age of 12?
@@vintagedrugrug8637 You must be on crack. He led them to the 2009 Finals and multiple ECF in Orlando
The Alex English snub was one of the biggest surprises...dude was one of the best NBA players during the 1980's.I ran into him a few years ago when he stopped by my job.Alex hits the gym regularly apparently....he still looked athletic and in playing shape.lol
Agree. He is revered at the USC (South Carolina), an All-Star and for me one of the greatest Denver Nuggets ever, long before Carmelo Anthony.
Ppl sleep on how good he was
Not really, denver in his prime was,ok we are gonna get 120 points lets try to get 130. Id rather take ice man than english 10/10 times
Pau is a big snub too.
It seems like they confuse “popular” with “greatest” in the cases of some of the really early players. Lenny wilkins couldn’t outplay Vince carter!?
Dwight gets no respect, the man worked so hard he literally broke his back
broke back mountain of a howard
@@noobartist3762 lmao
3 DPOTY went to a final after beating Lebron
People have forgotten how good he was for the first decade of his career.
Man when Reggie Miller got the news that he made it , his reaction was priceless because he thought it was a joke but like man , I’m so so happy for him , despite he broke knicks fans hearts in the 90s , he was absolutely clutch and a helluva 3 point shooter in his prime
The king of trash talking
*The king of Flops
I teared watching him
He was so much better than what people give him credit for. Beyond the ppg and other stats…the man flat out owned moments. End of game with one shot to win, I still lump him with Bird and Allen as top choices for me.
i’m happy for him too but he didn’t deserve it over Chris Bosh, Dwight Howard, Kyrie Irving, or VC
Its crazy how dame went from being underrated to being overrated
No cap
Yeah he’s probably top 100, but top 75 seems a bit much for a guy that has never made the finals or been more than 4th in MVP voting
Love Dame as he is one of the best scorers and shooters we’ve ever seen
TBH I was thinking Kyrie had a better chance of making the list, but still glad Dame made it
Stop lying. Ain’t nothing overrated about Dame. He’s easily top 75. Go look at some other players who don’t deserve it
As a person who hopes Dame goes to my Knicks because he could probably get MVP and finally play with a defensive team, I do think he doesn’t belong in the Top 75 if he just entered his prime like 1 or 2 years ago
@@leokizzo3515 He’s top 85 Not Top 75
Tony Parker won 4 nba finals & 1 finals mvp, ranks 9th in pts scored in playoffs history and 5th in assists. No matter how good Dame is if he's on the list but Tony isnt, well yeah I have a problem with it.
The 75 list is for popularity. Dame still has alot to prove and they should have waited him and ad till 100th. I think they could have looked at other players. Parker, dwight, vc, big ben, pau, motumbo, Penny, grant, tmac
I have a problem with Alex English not on this 75th anniversary team. The leading scorer of the whole decade of the 1980s and he is not on the team. That is ridiculous!!
Tony Parker was on an elite team and his stats are inflated because of how many games he played. I'll give you points, but assists? Not even top five compared to othe point guards. He'll, he wasn't even top five point guards. And Ginobili is arguably the second best player on the Spurs.
@@younglove3362 its actually the opposite. Pop system really was built around selfless basketball, extrapass and using every player as a whole. Just look at Kawhi stats when on the spurs and after the spurs. He didn't become amazing after the spurs, he already was but the system was not around him, and wasn't around Tony neither.
@@st4r444 so true
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Dikembe Mutombo isn't talked about, or why he isn't on this list? So, there's NO praise for all-time level defense?
8x All Star
2x TRB Champ
3x BLK Champ
3x All-NBA
6x All-Defensive
1991-92 All-Rookie
4x Def. POY
10x All-League
2nd All-time Blocks
20th All-time Rebounds
Because dame lillard hit a big shot a time or two. Enough said
@@YakDPOY that's a bad shot
DIKEMBE DIDNT MAKE IT? HES EASILY IN THE TOP 50
He's the worst of the 90's center and he never could score 20ppg. It's like how Mike Conley is always overlooked because there are way too many other players at that position that are just better. Period.
@@blackphillip564 yet 1 dimentional players that only score can make the list. Meanwhile a top defence wins the chip every year... hmmm. Id also question is 10pts a game more valuable than 0.1 steals/blocks?
Absence of Vince Carter is heartbreaking... Yes, no titles, but he and Iverson changed the flow of the Game in the early 2000's.
Was robbed by wasting his prime on the nets. Had he been sent to a contender in that infamous 04-05 season, he probably wins a ring or makes a Finals appearance.
@@deanbenford7363 bad take, the nets were a contender before carter and if anything they got worse with him
@@thischanneldoesnotexist.750 doesn't change his talent though. He in fact himself admitted as he plays for the love of the game and not for winning. Talent wise he was better than pierce and westbrook. Tmac was even better than him his peak was just shorter. Its all about accolades though which makes it a longer list while looking at numbers but at eye test they were at least better than pierce on the list.
@@artix003 I dont agree that hes better than pierce, however, I also agree that this list is much too based on accolades. T-Mac, Bernard King, and to a lesser extent carter could have absolutely made the list if it wasn't
@@thischanneldoesnotexist.750 bad take? Got worse? Let me correct you. The NJN started the season 4-13 including a 9 game losing streak before VC's arrival. They finished the season 3rd in the East so what bad take arw you talking about.
Let's remember also that Tony Parker made the floater used widely in the NBA nowadays.... Isn't it the mark of the great when players use a move popularized by another player ?
I think generally Europeans has been snubbed on this vote... Pau Gasol should have also be on this list. He also won Rookie of the year in 2002 almost tied with.... Tony Parker...
And Manu popularized the eurostep.
Vince, tmac, pau, Penny, motumbo, grant
Hey......I called this number as a kid and nothing happend
Dwight definitely deserved to be on this list. 8x all star, 3x defensive player of the year, 4x all defensive first team, led the NBA in rebounding 5 times, and an NBA championship. Need I say more? As well as T Mac. If it weren’t for his injuries he could’ve been a better player than what he was.
5X all nba first team.... bunch of people on that list doesn't even have a stretch as dominant as prime dwight.... he's so disrespected
I wish he could make it on top 100 NBA list in the year 2046. We could wait for that and he'll be already on Naismith HOF in the near future. 😁
Not a single person I would take off of that list for Howard get real bro
@@RellshouldBsleep How 'bout Dame?
@@RellshouldBsleep ray Allen. Easy.
Great video as always. As the biggest Dame fan outside of the PNW and Oakland, I’ll be the first to say too early for him to be on this list. Glad Dominique got his due and thanks for giving Joe D some love.
I don’t think too early. Dudes stats and accolades better than a lot of guys on the list, and he plays in the same conference and era as the goat PG steph curry (undermines his greatness) while never having good enough teammates to help get him a ring. Easily a HOFer and deserves the list especially if guys like AD making it.
@@Bentzema Dame has never had a better year than AD before he went to LA and when they met up in the playoffs AD as a 6th seed swept Dame
Yeah dwight and carter should be in the list over dame but dont bring in kyrie plz.
@@trey8725 Because that series was one-on-one?
Davis didn't beat Lillard. Davis and a far superior Pelicans team beat Lillard and the baggage he has to drag into the playoffs every year.
@@ryanchase9332 if you think that pelicans team was better than the blazers team that year without each star player your lying to yourself
I agree with the list. I'm glad it wasn't only me who felt TMac, Dwight Howard, Grant Hill, Vince Carter deserve to be there as well.
And Dikembe Mutombo
Grant hill? Tmac? Lol grant hill was injury prone and had no accomplishments and tmac couldn’t get out the first round
@@SANDMAN_7 Mcgrady has more basic accolades than most on the list
Kinda mad about Ben Wallace. Hope he gets in during the 100th greatest players list. Dudes a top 10 greatest defender of all time.
Another guy whose numbers didn’t help their case 😔
Definitely he’s the greatest undrafted player of all time
Voters don't give a sh*t about defense. None of the guys tied with the most Defensive player of the year titles got in... Sure, they had bad (perhaps pitiful) offensive stats. But only 1 DPOY behind them is Dwight, with an average of 20(+) points in his carreer. You can remove the argument of "all defense, no offense" and still didn't make it. Which means they probably overlooked defense accomplishments entirely
Lol, unfortunately i think there's no chance we'll see him added also in that list, cuz Repoters and the others dont care if you've been an elite Defender, and also the best UNDRAFTED player of all time, if you're point records are absolutely awful. I wish he'll make it one day, but I see no hope😔
Top 3
A lot of selections on the NBA 75 are all motivated by recency bias
not disrespect AD and dame but he's not done enough compare to dwight and tonyparker
What about Bob McAdoo?
@@TheManny717 he is good to be included there
Fr…Dwight has had a better career than dame
Nah. A lot of it was these politics of leaving the 50 best from before the voters even watched the league. A lot of those old role players shouldn't be on the list compared to legends from the 2000s
Howard is missed for sure, but I would say Mt. Mutombo also deserves the list. 8x All Star 3x All-NBA 4x DPOY 6x All Defense 2x Rebound leader 3x Block leader. Seems like defense doesn't get enough credit in this list. Sidney Moncrief and Ben Wallace should be included as well.
ben Wallace is a good one I didn't think off. strangely I think none of that pistons team is on the list
AD getting in and Dwight being snubbed made the NBA 75th team a big joke.
AD is just a better player than Dwight. Not saying Dwight is or was a scrub but he has always been one dimensional on offense. In his prime he could score based just on his athleticism. He never worked on his game or developed a jump shot. He'll be a surefire HOF'er but even in his prime he was not better than AD. I think prime Amar'e Stoudemire was better than prime Dwight.
@@jamesflanagan7693 your a casual drug
D Howard 3 dopy in a row and a ring with ad also way better defense player not soft to
@@jamesflanagan7693 AD is probably better than Dwight if you were born after 2010.
😂😂😂 I was born in 1978 and have been watching the NBA since 1992. Dwight was no doubt a better defensive player and AD is soft and overrated but the facts are the facts......he can do more on the court than Dwight. He can shoot, he can hit free throws and after injuries took away Dwight's athleticism he has been a shell of the player he was. Even after injuries, AD has been great.
Lillard made the cut having little to No awards nor accolades in his resume’ yet howard who has all the pieces to make it in the top 75th didn't make the cut 😂😂
DRose deserves to make this list over Lillard
@@whodat787 lillard has had 4 seasons better than d rose mvp season lmao
@@whodat787 dude, what are you smokin
@@whodat787 whatever it is, plz share
@@danielb4389 lol that's a lie. which 4 seasons from Lillard were better than DRose's MVP season???
Shoutout to Dwight Howard. It’s very hard to make All NBA 8 times.
Tony Parker is so underrated. Absolute legend bordel !!!
Wasn't Ginobili a more complete player with similar impact on the game?!
@@radiationoncologist They are very close but i’d still go with Tony over Manu, I’m french...
Nba players know how much of a best he was. I respect all of those Spurs players for putting the team first and never taking their eyes off of what wins games. They made big sacrifices to their individual stats to be in that system
he is but he doesnt deserve to be on the list because the players in that list were much better
@@eugenegustavo9891Ok
Mcadoo had one of the best peaks ever and he deserves to be in this list
Fr I was honestly surprised he wasn't on the original list.
@@Demi-kid him and Wilkins were the biggest snubs in the top 50 list.
McAdoo was a ballhog and a " nut" aka ppl who dont ever pass the ball and takes every shot
Reggie Miller imo was part of the beginning of "spreading the floor" that Dirk solidified. There was no doubt that, with Michael out of the way, Indiana flourished because of this. You had to watch those outlet passes to him. And he had SUCH manic energy. He was firing on all cylinders the moment he came near the arena, never mind the parquet floor.
Bob McAdoo was easy money too with his 10-12 footers, even at the end of his career with the Lakers. Look at some of their old tapes and you'll see him firing the shot from 50 feet in the air. A guaranteed swoosh. He was another favorite.
And if Giannis keeps on this career upward trajectory, this guy will own the NBA. His championship run was incredible. I was disappointed for Chris Paul, as I'd like him to get a ring (Devin Booker will get his, don't worry). But Giannis, man...just incredible.
Glenn Rice started it before both of them.
Your Miller assessment is on point. A guy like Rip Hamilton really gave those 2000’s Piston some buckets with that play style.
How Bernard King has still not been selected, dude was incredible
True and Alex English shoot even penny
His cocaine alcohol addiction plus he chock out a woman back in the day while being faded...yeah he wasn't getting in lol but yeah he was a beast def deserve it over some of these current players
@@33Rakim true but look at Karl Malone that’s all I have to have say
Bernard king had a tough life growing up, watch a documentary about him.
@@ericfinch7392 yeah, Karl Malone is at the top for what you're talking about. Even that kobe/Colorado thing didn't change his legacy.
Chris bosh underrated, 11x allstar , 2x champ and was forced to retire in his prime, he was an allstar the season before the bloodclots
He was a beast in raptor and after lebron left. Too bad he was sick
Not even top 300. Maybe the most overrated player of all time and I watched over 98% of all his games. Compare him to Alonzo Mourning for example...not even in the same ballpark.
He averaged the same number of rebounds as Bargnani in Toronto in his Miami days and only 1 asst per game. Scrub level numbers.
@@Veggamattic thanks for the advanced analysis
@@OneAndOnlyRoRo I'm kind like that.
This was the best comprehensive breakdown of the 75. Better than any NBA analyst has done yet.
Reggie Miller is one of the best team players in NBA history. His shooting and off ball movement would have a huge positive impact for any team.
Yeh but he was never even considered a superstar while he was playing. His highlight reel of clutch shots is the only reason people who didn’t watch basketball during that era think he was so great. He was barely a top 10 player in the league during his prime.
@@Romanus-I disagree
Disappointed to see that most people nowadays forget how amazing Vince Carter was in his prime. 😞 He was more than a dunker y'all. #Underappreciated
was he though?
@@Odinson42 probably you're too young to remember VC.
@@Odinson42 look at his stats from 1998-2007 he was a really good 3 point shooter too
@@Odinson42 early 2000's. Better then Kobe Bryant. But he got Shaq so IT was easy to be great.
And guys such as Alex English and Adrian Dantley were a lot more potent, if less entertaining.
Love my Raptors-era VC. Those playoff series in 00-01 were EPIC joy/agony, some of my favorite b-ball ever watched on TV.... but he was too inconsistent to be called an elite player after that.
He's being celebrated (partly) for his longevity and fine character. Which is nice, but not any sort of definitive comparison of player-to-player's achievements.
Damian Lillard over Tony Parker is literally unacceptable!
His wife dont think so
Eva Longoria does
TP is good, but let us not pretend that DL is better.
«Do, do McAdoo» is now the only Top 75 NBAer and Top 50 EuroLeague contributor. He's the man. Pure class.
the first legit stretch-4
he's more influential now than when he played
@@shaft9000 he was a stretch 5 tho. He played more at the Center then at the PF position.
He was a MVP when Kareem played, that alone makes him better than Westbrick.
Could you image McAdoo playing in todays NBA?
@@shaft9000 No. McAdoo was a center. Stretch 5. The first stretch 4 was Bob Petit. Jerry Lucas too a lesser extent, was also a stretch
Fun fact: None of the 26 players added to the list are centers.
Clearly Dwight deserved a spot there.
This is cold water to the face.
The current state of NBA's priorities in rules & officiating is even wonkier than we ever noticed, because it gradually happened over ten yrs of ~2005-2015.
_In any other era '26 adds and not a single Center' would cause ppl to question what sport are we even talking about._
Most great players who couldve become centers opted for the power forward role so we may as well consider that a substitute for center~
Bob mcadoo is a center.
@@BosnianJesus true. An undersized center, but a center nonetheless. Even though he played some at the 4, his best years were at the 5.
@@shaft9000 jokic will be top 100 when it comes
Vince and Dwight deserve to be in there…. Over Dame and AD… Period.
Really can’t believe Pau Gasol got snubbed from that 75th anniversary team list , arguably one of the best centers in the late 2000s on those Lakers teams .. just unbelievable
Same and I’m glad that I’m not the only one who saw this huge snubbing job.
I feel like Gasol is literally on the line for that team
Just a poor man’s Dirk
@@Odinson42 yeah that’s pretty much the case
@@Odinson42 have you watch him playing!? Gasol had way better low post game and his style was actually different from Nowitzki.
You can also make a case for Anthony Davis. In terms of individual accolades, Dwight Howards deserves it more than the brow
I honestly don’t see it, but I would be interested to hear your case.
Bro AD and Dwight deserve it shut up
Both rode Lebron to a title so there is an * to anything they done as Lakers.
Reggie Miller's lack of awards just means he played in an era with so many grear players.
Reggie was sick. Gave everything. 2nd greatest shooter ever
@@johnrowsell6 ughhh no he wasnt lol. 4th and thats very debatable
Miller is like Vince Carter. They both created this bizarre aura around them from superfical things. Reggie Millers entire career was the '94 and '95 playoff series with the Knicks and Carter's entire legacy is the 2000 dunk contest.
@@blackphillip564 i give ya that, i just would say the first 8 yrs of vinces career dunks + the dunk contest are his thing. He is unquestionably the best in game dunker ever
@@blackphillip564 lmao the dunk contest? Carter was a good ass player, foh
Although i feel he should've made it i can kind of understand t-mac because of his injuries cutting his career short it's unfortunate. But vince carter and Dwight Howard not making it is ridiculous
I think with Vince it’s because he never worked to improve his game (has admitted this) plus the way things went down with his exit from Toronto hurt him too
T-Mac also didn't make it because he never won a single playoff series EVER. That's why he's not greater than Dame.
TMac was greater than both those guys
@@LHRKiiDfLaSh For those who really know, Nets Vince was better than Raptors Vince. He never said he didn't work to improve his game...he said when one is more gifted, one could get away with some things a less gifted player couldn't get away with. In the context of his discussion with John Thompson, he wasn't implying that he wasn't a hard worker at all. Coach Thompson has come to his defense on this.
AD and Dame should’ve been taken off for Dwight
Well a lot of old ass players don't deserve to be on there
@@liamphillips9166 yeah and the top 50 has ppl that wouldn’t make it today. Should have been changed. They are no longer top 50
You really tryna say Jason Kidd and Nash are better players than Dame?? You trippin lol
@@leokizzo3515 They are better
For sure
Too many current players and to many who really didn't accomplish anything but being able to score. Basketball is a team game where you play to win championships. You are correct about Dumars. I would add Dennis Johnson. Three championships with two teams. It seems, like with the Dumars snub, flash and popularity were more important than results....
I can't believe 2 things:
1. There weren't 26 players in the past 25yrs better than the 50th best from 25yrs ago
2. And the nba didn't have the balls to release the list in order
I can believe the second one. Perhaps not agree, but believe...
But sure, #1 is baffling
Pretty sure there are plenty of players since 96 that are better but they being nice about it
Pretty sure the original 50 had their spots locked that’s why your first point is like that
And the most ridiculous thing is that there's not a single Center in that new 26.
If this happened in any other era people would say that's not even basketball anymore.
I feel like there was some pre-planned thing going on here. Like maybe voters could only vote for 25 new players, instead of all 75. Because it's quite a coincidence that 11 active players were chosen this time, just like in 1996 when 11 active players were also chosen. Hmm
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Chris Webber. He's my #2 top snub after Dwight. Also agree on Vince, T-Mac, Dumars. As a Pistons fan I was happy to see Rodman included. Also IIRC McAdoo and Wilkins were considered the 2 biggest snubs from the 50th list so that got righted. Also they included players who could've been like Shaq and be on the 50th list like Payton and Reggie.
His championship was stolen from him and consequently his spots on all time rankings.
Yeah. In Webber's case, playing in the same era as Pau, KG, Duncan and Dirk will get you overlooked, sadly.
Agreed. I’d put Dwight, CWeb and Vince in the list instead of Davis, Ray Allen, and Lillard.
@@andreisevostianov9525 Ray Allen are you kidding? did you not follow the man's career?
Klay Thompson is more deserving than overrated Reggie Miller, and CWebb's prime was too short to be on the list....Earl Monroe shouldn't be there either
They forgot about Benard King Jack Sikma and Sidney Moncrief!! These guys were the UNSUNG backbone of the NBA in the late 70s & through to the early 80s
Bernard King’s prime was way too short and while he was a walking bucket, there are so many other players better at the small forward position. Sidney Moncrief definitely deserved a spot on this list tho.
Dwight not making it in is a crime against basketball.
Dame and AD made it in prematurely. I believe they’ll make the 100 list but it’s too premature for them.
Edit: Parker and Manu sacrificed so much for that Spurs dynasty that it hurt their case for an individual award.
Manu was a supporting role player for those championship teams. He was never a franchise player or even 2nd option at any point in his career. It's like making an argument for draymond being a better player than harden.
@@daebak7370 you dont know wtf youre talking about Manu sacrificed his spot and fame. He and greg pop discussed it. He can easily be a starter and play more minutes but he would be less efficient because his playstyle required more energy and risk. So for the good of the Spurs dynasty he came off the bench for instant energy and offense allowing tim and tony more rest.
When the game is close, he was always in the lineup guarding some of the best. Hes not a role player in a traditional sense. The spurs big 3 were Tim, Tony, AND Manu.
@@tien5tri I know Manu could be a starter for teams but he would not be a franchise caliber or #1 option caliber player was my point. He's a good player but very overrated by fans. He's the shooting guard version of draymond.
@@daebak7370 no i disagree. Hes not a draymomd. Hes a kevin mchale, as duncan was to larry bird. Manu was 2nd option after Tim except for that time Tony parker went off in the finals.
I truly believe you can build a team off Manu with his skill and drive and it would be successful. You cant do that with Draymond.
Manu proved that he can be the "Guy" in the olympics
Bob definitely deserves it. He is the best player to come out of my city and he led the nba in scoring 3 times and was an mvp
100%
the biggest flaw was the original 50 being locked in. there are more than 26 top 75 all time players in the last 25 seasons. were in the most talented era of the league
I think the question is "what are the criteria a player needs in order to be part of the NBA's top 75?"
Except for a few older NBA players, most people voting are in the current time so there's some bias involved. Lillard shouldn't be on this list by hitting logo 3's, there are people that have done more than him. AD is controversial too, being second best for a championship shouldn't put him above Dwight, Pau Gasol or Tony Parker.
@@EasilyPullingUpFromDeep tf? Havent seen the list but AD is above Tony parker?
@@EasilyPullingUpFromDeep wbu kawhi
That's the unanswered question for all individual awards. Well, and for the NCAA football playoffs as well. The more specific and defined the criteria, the more valid the list. And it seems like none of these awards make any attempt at all beyond a few generalities.
Man, Klay Thompson even getting snubbed from a YT snub list of the top 75 lol
Fr tho Klay, the 2nd greatest shooter of all time getting snubbed is criminal
@@icupnibba3533 a HOT Klay Thompson is THE BEST SHOOTER I'VE EVER SEEN, including steph curry. This dude put up 37 points in ONE quarter, he almost SINGLEHANDEDLY saved the warriors from elimination in game 6 against the thunder in 2016, and he has broken or tied the most threes in a single game record a few times now. I kinda understand him getting snubbed tho. All his individual success happened when he always had better players than him on his team
Setting the record for 3s in one game should’ve been enough to get him in the conversation. Also setting the record for 3s in a playoff game should’ve solidified it. Idc if Dame took it, he set a precedent
@@whodat787 idk bro, I think him and Steph are realistically neck and neck on that squad. Ik it’s a hot take. Steph’s a lil better as a shooter and is the offensive focal point, but Klay offers almost the same threat and also is a defensive beast
@@squidtortellini559 klay is a much better defender than steph is, no question there. But klay can't create his own offense for himself the way that steph can. Steph's ball handling and finishing ability allows him to create his own shot whenever he wants to, and klay can't quite do that. That's what puts steph above klay imo
Allen also is the 2nd best 3-Point-Shooter of all time and was for a couple of years Number 1. That, too, gives him an added edge, I think. And 2 rings.
Pau Gasol should definitely be on this list. Other than Dirk and Giannis, he's probably the GOAT of European basketball.
Sabonis. If you would put him court today, he would be taller Jokic, with a better jump shot also!
It's too bad Sabonis and Nikos Galis never got to show off in the NBA during their primes. We have only bits such as Olympic-era Sabonis, or Galis schooling a young MJ in an exhibition game.
While Drazan Petrovic was taken IN his prime.
@@shaft9000 amen 🙏🏻 to that
@@shaft9000 who's nikola. Never heard of him. Is he a another dude who's career got ruined due to injuries?
No fucking way should that flopper be top 200.
Thanks Andy. Your videos do more than you can imagine in terms of your fans mental health. You have helped me through harder times than I hope you can imagine. Love you man keep it up ❤
Vince Carter was a complete player shooter, defense, dunk, skills. incredible
He had great early years in toronto. But with the nets he was putting up stats but lacked playoff success and he wasnt a winner let’s be real.
I can't believe they left Dwight Howard off, just made it a pure popularity contest.
That was a great point about everybody knowing Tmac and Vince were better than Ray and Paul, that was definitely the case
lol
Better and greater are two different things and winning is very important for the later.
@@ursula3438 great point. As far as pure physical talent Tmac and Vince were better and had a more freakishly athletic and fan friendly play style. But Ray and pierce (especially Ray) just knew how to play winning basketball more then Vince and tmac
Yep, I remember VC used to cook Pierce and Allen on the regular. Pierce, Allen and KG just had the good fortune of uniting on the Celtics to win a ring, which greatly enhanced their legacies.
Anthony Davis had no business being in the top 75
When was the last time a center was the best player on an NBA finals team? Dwight Howard. It's insane that he was left off. 4-time DPOY that was also great offensively
The scariest thing about DH is that if he had followed all the suggestions that Charles Barkley had made on NBA Live on TNT back 10+ years ago on how to improve his offensive game, DH would have been a more muscular, faster, more agile and powerful version of Shaq!
T-Mac led teams are always eliminated in the 1st round. Before the big 3 both Allen and Pierce led their teams in the eastern conference finals even when Allen was traded to the Sonics he led his team to the West semis.
Paul had Antoine Walker another All Star and Ray Allen played Glen Robinson All star and Sam Cassell an Elite Pg at the time…Carter and Tmac best counterparts were old veteran guys or young and inexperienced. If they stuck together in Toronto were looking at completely different spectrum of Vince Carter and Tmac today, they would have had a better team they were individually better than Paul Pierce and Ray Allen
When was it Tmac was supposed to win?
Tmac had bad teams and in his peak was considered better than kobe. A top 11 player all time and you sittng here making fun of a legend because of his front offices 🤣
@@YakDPOY he didn't need a ring to prove himself, or even a finals appearance, but look at how weak the east was. Shaq, Duncan, Nowitzki, Garnett, Kobe, and Nash were all out west. If TMac were as good as billed, that means he was the best player in his conference. The next best being Kidd? It's not like he ran into a buzz saw Boston big 3, or the Wade & Shaq Heat. He couldn't beat a Hornets team with Mashburn in street clothes, and nobody headed for Springfield. In Houston he had Yao, Artest or Ariza, Battier, and got Utah as first round draw twice. How sorry an opponent did he need to win a series? If you can only win against cardboard cutouts, or when you have multiple Hall of fame teammates, are you really an all timer? He chose Orlando, and as soon as he left Toronto his cousin did win a playoff series.
@@75aces97 Orlando is a job he signed up for an had grant hill break down on him halfway through the first season. You suggesting a bad roster thats also missing a guy whom at one point was considered the future goat should be winning chips? You suggesting basketballs a 1 v 1 sport? I dont subsrcibe to the notion if you had 1 guy in the east you auto win. Anytime you got a high paid player getting paid to rehab/come back and is a shell of former self, you tend to lose more games. Its 5 v 5 sport with best players around the world , each getting paid their worth to keep teams even and you think teamates dont matter or losing a 1A 1B guy dont matrer? Im kind of baffled you expected more of that magic team. Anyway, i not even sitting here saying tmacs the greatest. Im just laughing at the dude for putting down a legend based off B.S. Kobe literally called tmac the taller version of himself and he was that guy everyone thought was something special when they played him. Have you ever seen him play? That man came in as a defender and turned into tall Kobe. "Tmac lead teams that were always eliminated in the first round", i never suggested tmac was the GOAT or anything. Im just pointing out how dumb that statement is
@@75aces97 Shaq, duncan, kobe, nash arent teams by the way. Those are just players. Kidd is also, just a player. If kidd is with gleaguers he is probably a less winning player than if he had a good solid nba players around him
Biggest snubs are TP and Pau. I know it's a Nba ranking but what they did with their national team is unbelievable and they were also deserving even if we took only the NBA into account. TP is a Finals mvp, 4x champion and Pau gasol was a beast before going to LA and then won 2 championships there while being the 2nd best player (maybe the best in 2010 finals).
yao ming dukumbo dwight??
TP9 is the greatest snub
alex english and joe dumars
Thanks Andy! Dwight being snubbed is crazy. Anyone who was around for Dwight's prime will know that he was even more dominant than LeBron James.
So ridiculous that he got in over Dwight. AD is most overrated player in Terms of legacy and player impact on team
@@corkyqwerty facts yo . He talented but not all time great .
@@corkyqwerty ad isn't overrated
@@tj5180 bitched his way to Lebrons team after failing to make anything out of his drafting franchises
@@corkyqwerty well his organization did a fucking terrible job at putting people that were actually good around him. Only good move they made during the AD era was bringing in Cousins, but injuries stopped that. Don’t blame AD for an incompetent front office that just fumbled Lonzo Ball and put their future with Zion in question lol
Completly mindblown.. How can Vince Carter not be on this list? Greatest dunker of all time ?!
No actual accolades tho
Im late on this but I was shocked that Alonzo Mourning wasn't on this list. I know that he had kidney disease in 2000 and he made a comeback. But he had a great NBA career.
7x All-Star
2006 NBA Champion with the Heat
2× Defensive Player of the Year.
A gold medal in the 2000 Summer Olympics. I felt like he is slept on.
Yeah true.
While I understand there are only 25 spots, and SO MANY great players, it still hurts to see all these legends of the game get forgotten.
a total of 26 players were added...
those who made it in 96...the all time greatest 50 were etched in stone...removing them from the list is downright disrespectful...
we won't forget them
There is nothing suprising at all about bob mcadoo on the list he's extremely respected
He's the NBA 50 version of Dwight - Dwight gets in on the 100 I think.
Another snub: Chris Mullin - Part of the original Dream Team of 1992,as one of the elite then NBA players.Many a time all star,top scorer,shooter,and underrated defender.A legend of the Golden State Warriors.
I love the picture of Jokic caressing Doncic's face while they stare deeply into one another's eyes.
why
Gay
I'm fine with keeping everyone from the original list, imagine in 50 years people asking who Kobe was and wanting to take him out, some respect is deserved
So instead leave out younger dudes that could easily have an argument for being on the list? I understand the respect but the new guys that WOULDVE made it deserve respect too
@@alexescutia4805 Many will be left out, snubs gonna happen, just saying I'm not cool with taking out Paul Arizin or Dolph Schayes for Tmac and Pau Gasol for example, because people will want to take Kobe out for new guys decades from now
@@emmanuelgarcia7176 kobe is disrespected as well. Don't Forget alex English and dantley also macaques Johnson a underrated pf
love dame, one of my fav currently doing it.. but how in tf can they put him on a top 75 of all time list right now
Because he's doing so much with so little. He's putting up the numbers he does and carrying teams through the playoffs despite having by far the worst supporting cast of any player on the list. You put Westbrick or Harden on the Blazers instead of Lillard, they miss the playoffs every season for sure.
@@ryanchase9332 werent russ and harden dragging their teams to the playoffs pretty much solo both of their mvp seasons though?
i just saw the rest of your comment and think youre wrong.. for both of them lol
I think Reggie was chosen because of how he was able to carry the pacers and you cant think of the pacers without Reggie Miller. Like wilkins to the hawks
I understand your point but Reggie didn’t carry them anywhere.
@@scottfree7089 Carry them to the finals lol 😆 and the Pacers was a longtime top 3-4 in Eastern because of him
@@jimmykarlsson2567 That was Jalen Rose’s year and Reggie had a decent squad around him. Reggie was an 18 - 3 and 3 guy. All those years in the league and couldn’t make it happen. Nah. Clutch at times but that’s it.
@@denondj1234 Jalen Rose was a bench player in the 90s. Nahh the Pacers where Reggies team all the way
@@jimmykarlsson2567 Reggie was 2nd in scoring. Jaylen came off the bench and beat him in scoring.
Give justice to the greatness of Manu and Tony💪
Still neither of them come close to being top 75. They're not greater than Lillard.
I love those guys but there's isn't enough room for them. They got rings and are first ballot HOFers.
@@guesswhonot1620 they did more then dame and they had the wrong people picking the players
@@ericfinch7392 First of all, let's see Tony or Manu get handed the keys to a franchise for 9 years and see how much success THEY would have without the GOAT power forward.
Second, wtf you mean they had the wrong people picking the players?!
@@blackphillip564 Neither of them would even be considered first ballot HOFers if it wasn't for the stuff they did outside the NBA.
Damian lillard over guards like Tony Parker and Rajon Rondo is one of the biggest crimes I’ve seen and I like lillard, Dwight and Dikembe not being on it for Centers is criminal too
D Howard was the best big man of his era
Howard was the last great REAL big men
LOL his era was the the "no big man" era. Shaq and Duncan got old and Emiid, Giannis, AD, and Jokic did arive yet. Dwight would have been Alonzo Mourning at best during the 90s. Hakeem, young Shaq, Big Patrick Ewing, and David Robinson would have made Dwight reconsier is life choses.
@@blackphillip564 ad and ginnas was there in his last few all star year d Howard last all star years was in 2016 or 2015
About Reggie. I think you left out an important point. Reggie's clutch shooting and leadership for the Pacers were also probably considered., the highlights and stats don't say enough about what he did for that franchise. Not top 50 but 75 is a no brainer to me.
Not top 200
Some people are forgetting this is called the NBA’s “greatest” players list, not “best”… someone can be great to the game without being the best at the game
So just checked. Moncrief, Howard, Mutombo and big Ben own more than one third of all DPOY awards ever given. None of those guys got in. Damn. These voters really hated defense.
None of the guys tied with the most Defensive player of the year titles got in... Sure, they had bad (perhaps pitiful) offensive stats. But only 1 DPOY behind them is Dwight, with an average of 20(+) points in his carreer. You can remove the argument of "all defense, no offense" and still didn't make it. They probably overlooked defense accomplishments entirely.
Defense is great but by itself it's not going to make you "great"
With that said i hate that some ppl like harden and melo made it. Those guys play hardly any D.
Imo it should be a mixture. You shouldnt be consider some of the greatest playing only 50% of the game.
@@tien5tri Yeah, but at least Harden produces efficiently and is a good assist man. Melo only just shoots a lot.
T-Mac, Vince, Dwight, Chris Webber and Tony Parker were locks for top 75. So disrespectful
That is a good list
Manu Ginobili 2
Grant hill deserves an honorable mention aswell as penny hardaway to this day no player did it all like penny did yes injuries hurt his career but in the 90s he was definitely a top 5 player such an amazing talent but hey what do I know?
They're in the "what if" list. You can just squeeze in players because they passed the eye 👁 test. Injuries plagued their careers
50 players automatically kept…that alone prevents this new 75 best of being the true best. It’s mathematically impossible for 20 years of players to not knock off some former players. But, I get it. It would create a political storm, even more so than now. But this is not a quintessential 75 best. Klay is the biggest snub in my opinion.
For real. Shoulda cut out the plumbers and milkmen.
Klay Thompson definitely deserves to be on the top 75. Vince Carter and Mr.13pointsin33sec even more so. I would prefer Andre Iguodala with Tony Parker and Manu the ultimate team player to make the list instead of AD and Westbrook. I'd love to see a top 75 by HOFamers, that list would be much different, I think
None of these guys are "plumbers and milkmen". When you make comments like that, you showcase your ignorance.
@GatCat But is it possible to objectively quantify which players from the original top 50 to replace? Considering how different the respective eras are a purely statistical approach wouldn't suffice, I think. What percentage of original list may be replaced? Do you use the same approach for Top 100, 125 etc or do you modify it every time? Eventually, when reaching Top 150, nobody will have watched Wilt and Kareem play and will gladly replace them with some fan-favourite from the New era. This path is a treacherous one
Klay biggest snub? hell no. Not even Top 3 snubs. Dikembe, Vince, TMac, Dwight all should‘ve all made it over Klay. Klay is a 50/50 for me. He can be on the list but I understand if he‘s not. He‘s making wayy too much buzz on social media as if he was a Top 10 player of all time that was left out
Mitch Richmond was another player overlooked because he was on bad teams. But he averaged at least 22 points a game in his first TEN seasons. Look at the list of players who have done that. It’s pretty damn small.
He made the playoffs in 4 of his 13 years, only once as his team's best player. Yes, he was saddled with some bad teams (and yes, getting traded for Billy Owens just as he hit his prime is one of the worst forgotten trades ever), but great players can elevate thin teams. Hell, Ewing carried a rotation with 3 recent CBA (G-League precursor) players into the finals, and almost never gets recognition for it.
I’m pretty sure it’s easier to score when you are on a bad team. Still impressive though.
Mitch Richmond is one of the most underrated players ever.
Reggie was competing against Jordan, Payton, Drexler, Stockton ect. for those All NBA guard spots. Amazing
i think lillard and Anthony Davis has recency bias on their side. but i would take Pau instead of AD. AD is top 75 talent, not player IMO. also i would take VC or Tmac over ray allen. but dwight was probably the biggest snub
Pau??? Hahaha... I remember in 08 09 when Pau averaged 17p and 9r and was considered "one of the best big men in the NBA" while Shaq also averaged 17 and 9 and was considered "washed up" haha
Nah, Pierce and Allen deserve to be over VC and Tmac, is not just the 2008 chip, they also were very close for 5 years. Plus Pierce got to the CF in 2001 also and Ray with Milwaukee in 2000. It's not even close their playoff success with VC and Tmac.
I would've taken AD off the list. Its not his time yet. Wallace, Mutombo, Parker, Bernard King and Manu deserve to be on that list
Remove AD and put Dwight in there.
Agree on almost all points except for Vince or Tracy over Allen. I also think Tony Parker belongs on the list...Nash never even made it to the finals, he also didn't deserve those 2 MVP...Mike D's system makes every PG look like a legend:...Linsanity, Nash, Harden...it's just a huge assist boost over other systems...but this system won't work in the playoffs...we've seen it again and again....
Artis Gilmore, Bob Lanier, Sidney Moncrief, Adrian Dantley and Alonzo Mourning were also snubbed.
Crazy to me that Allen, pierce && Garnett formed a big 3 before anyone had that and only achieved one championship but catch zero criticism over it
I don't they catch as much slack as some because KG and Allen were trades. They didn't conspire to join forces.
@@Ronald5484 players can conspire to force trades too. Obviously Boston’s big three wasn’t necessarily as hyped as say Miami’s big three. But kg allen and pierce had private conversations about teaming up before that deal eventually happened
KG, Allen & Truth weren’t the first “Big 3” formed, they just were the first time modern NBA players got to choose where they wanted to play with the stars to align just right to make such a move possible. Garnett had the highest profile of the 3, but wasn’t the megastar the way LeBron or Durant were when they moved to form “superteams”. And though they made the Finals twice in their peak, the Celtics still had to deal with Kobe’s revamped Lakers, and LeBron & Dwight Howard coming into their own primes. I think we all wanted another Lakers-Celtics Finals trilogy from 2008-10, but it’s hard to say that those guys underachieved.
Thanks for letting us know you weren't watching basketball back then. In the 2008-2009 season, after Boston won 66 games (ended the Rockets 22 game win streak that season) and a championship, they started the season 27-2 with a 19 game win streak. In February, Kevin Garnett, the defensive anchor, top 2 player on the team, and the reason why Boston was amazing defensively got a season ending injury in a game at Utah. Despite this, Boston managed to adjust and still finish the season with 62 wins. In the playoffs, Boston were up 3-2 on Orlando. They couldn't seal the deal without KG and lost.
In the 2009-10 season, KG returned a shell of himself. He was very skinny and didn't play like he did before the injury. During this season, Doc Rivers implemented a plan to rest his starters for the playoffs. The Celtics ended up as a 4th seed. Boston beat Cleveland, who had been the #1 seed 2 years in a row. This just proved that had KG not been injured, they would have beat Cleveland the prior year because Orlando had beat them. They had a rematch with Orlando. This time KG was back, Boston went up 3-0 then sealed the deal in 6. In the finals, Boston took a 3-2 lead against the Lakers. In game 6, Perkins had a season ending injury. If you watched basketball back then, then you'd know how much of a problem Perkins was at controlling the boards and paint. With Perkins gone, Boston got killed on the boards and paint, which led to them losing.
Like Doc said, the starting lineup of Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG, and Perkins have never lost a playoff series on the floor together. It was always an injury that prevented them from winning another champion. Anyone who watched basketball back then wouldn't criticize them. Only the ignorant people who started watching basketball after 2010. That same Lakers team got beat down by the Mavs the next year, btw.
Also, Ray, KG, and Pierce didn't form a 3 big. Danny Ainge traded for Ray and KG during the draft and summer to build a championship team. Big difference from LeBron running to Miami because he couldn't beat the Celtics to form a big 3 with Wade and Bosh. And it was stated by LeBron that they planned this.
@@ramboslice7322 This is false.
I'm still mad that Dwight is not on the list.
Dwight feelin some kind of way and stepped to AD last night, who made the 75 instead of him. Dwight knows he has a much better resume.
SolteroConDinero The lakers missed the playoffs they add AD they win the chip When kobe was still on the lakers they got to the 2nd round they add Dwight and Nash they only make to the first round thats why neither Nash or Dwight Howard belong on the list
Man, I don't know why McAdoo is just added in. He's basically the best Clippers player of all time...
Parker, ginobili and pau gasol deserved to be there
Parker yes but no way to the other 2.
What are you smoking manu Ginobili deserve to be there too
Tmac is all time great in terms of talent and dwight is the best big man on his prime
" greatest " should have accolades as priority
dame and Reggie clearly not done enough compare to tonyparker and Dwight
specially dame he may not have good support but he didn't lead the league in scoring,rebound,assist to be "greatest" he need something to back himself
@@ryuichihwang2495 yeah people mix up the two. I would say he’s one of the BEST in talent, not greatness. Not even close
I agree. If you compare McGrady and Pierce, McGrady all the way!
It's all a matter of criteria, and the NBA 75-at-75 list's unspoken criteria is _Marketabilty._
If a player goes to NYC or LA, then consideration is boosted , and boosted by more than any skill, single ring or accolade can.
@@atsk3281 their playoff careers say otherwise Twac couldn't lead a fly to dog shit
Bro, Reggie deserves to be on the list. 2nd greatest 3 point shooter of all time. Gold medal winner, etc...
Reggie changed the game. All the 3 point specialists nowadays who are running around screens to get an open look from behind the arc are copying his style. He was also Steph's idol growing up. Plus Reggie belongs on the Mount Rushmore of shooters as does Klay, and that alone should be enough to make 75.
My only question is why Carmelo Anthony is in the list
Cause he is one of the best stupid
@@alexbel6188 good joke
Yeah people like Dwight and Alonzo deserved it over him
@@perry7595 he might not have many accolades and he had a few bad years but in his prime he was a great scorer and finish 2nd in mvp voting if i remember correctly
Nuggets stint. Maybe their greatest player in the modern era, but probably overtaken by Jokic soon.
Going back to your point of only 1 of the 3 all time spurs players making it on the list, i feel like Manu Ginobili deserved to be on that list as well. He was a crucial piece to the Spurs championships coming off the bench and being one of the greatest 6th men in the history of the NBA. They put a player like Kevin McHale on that list for being an incredible player and sixth man and he had the exact same impact on the Celtics as much as Ginobili did on the Spurs. I dont understand how they could recognize the greatness of one player but not the greatness of another.
Manu is not on Kevin's level. Was he important to the Spurs success? Of course. That's not debatable. But he's not on that level. He was a perfect fit in his role, but he's a career 13ppg scorer who was a great glue guy
Dwight definitely is a top 75 player, replace Lillard with Dwight in my opinion
I love Lillard for sure, but he has no business being on this list period. In the future I’m sure he’ll deserve it but not right now. He has no resume. Not even a scoring title and he’s one of the best scorers in the NBA no doubt.
Dwight or vince should replace dame. But domt u even bring kyrie in.
@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Kyrie’s great but I’m not completely sold on NBA75 great yet. He left Lebron to run his own team and ain’t prove shit lol
@@atlboytoosik6411 completely agreed. Howard and vince should make it over dame. Kyrie no. Kyrie had a young celtics team that made the ECF twice without him. Before he got injured and after he left.
Lebron made the finals again with cavs without kyrie.
Tbh kyrie achievements and drama with his teammates without lebron is...i dk. Dame had been carrying his team reg season and playoffs and the best teammates he ever had was aldridge and cj mccollum maybe a older melo.
So imho kyrie hasnt done much witbout lebron
you cant really say no resume about someone thats 6x all NBA lol
@@danielb4389 its nothing compared to dwights cv
The 3 biggest snubs are no doubt Pau Gasol, Tony Parker and Dwight Howard.
Nope. TMac, English and Dikembe are bigger snubs than Tony or Pau
@@ezypeazyy No way. T-Mac was beautiful to watch but we're talking about ACHIEVEMENTS not highlights. TP has 4 rings, 1 final MVP, and despite his collective success that diluted his stats he was still 4 times in the top 10 MVP votes and in all-NBA teams. As for Pau, he wasn't flashy but very versatile and the perfect lieutenant for Kobe. They both played about 300 games more than T-Mac in the regular season and in the playoffs it's not even comparable: McGrady played in 50 games (and lost 31), Gasol played in 136 games (won 70) and Parker in 226 games (won 137). I agree T-Mac is more fun to watch but it's not what it's about.
As for Alex English, like Damian Lillard or others, he was a big scorer who didn't win. To me it's not as valuable as winners.
Well I don't want my message to be misunderstood: I put Howard, Parker and Gasol above the 3 you name but they're not that far behind, it's not like one or the other is absolute bullcrap. But for this ceremony Parker & Gasol & Howard were clearly ahead of them, as far as achievements and longevity go. I mean, playing FOUR TIMES more playoffs games than the player you're compared to is quite a significant margin.
@@ezypeazyy omg i forgot about Alex English he should be in there. I think Vince should be in there also
@@RandomStuff-yd3cm yeah sure since rings are the most important let‘s throw in JR Smith too🤡🤡
Another "what if " for D.Rose had he not gotten injured and Bulls continued to be dominant during his stay
@Fries DRose better get into the Hall of Fame. They put players like Tmac, Mitch Richmond, and Joe Dumars in so DRose should get in without question.
And here's a legit question for you: what did Allen Iverson accomplish in his career that Derrick Rose didn't accomplish?
@Fries i agree with everything you just said. I would just like to clarify tgat i wasn't trying to imply that Iverson doesn't belong in the hof. I was just asking what did he accomplish to deserve the hof that DRose didn't accomplish. Because if you look at tgeir accomplishments side by side, they're very similar: Rookie of the year, MVP, led their respective teams to the best record in the league. And as you said Iverson did lead the league in scoring and steals which Rose has never done. But in terms of actual hardware and awards that can be accomplished in the NBA, I'm pretty sure Rose has accomplished everything that Iverson has
What about Yao Ming? I know he had a short prime but he was a beast!
Thats what I was saying 11 Straight all stars
Yao was only a 8 time all star but still. Not only his on court play but the cultural impact.
I'm surprised there's no LOVE for Artis Gilmore he should definitely be on there
Ben Wallace for Anthony Davis
Dwight Howard for Carmelo Anthony
Tony Parker/Klay Thompson for Damian Lillard
If Derrick Rose did not had any "career-ending" injuries, he would be on the list....
So far you got my vote. This makes the most sense to me.
Carmelo is top 9 scorer of all time...but he isnt a top 75 player of all time??makes no sense leaving him out pal
Tony over Klay
Pau over rodman mchale worthy sam jones for example
@@TheWoolverin how about howard being a top rebounder all time? base on impact not on points
AD and to the lesser extent, Lillard shocked me the most. Like why?
I’d like to see a top 75 by HOFamers. That list would be much different, I think
Not terribly different. The biggest difference would be a few old heads that didn't deserve to make it instead of a few new jacks (Melo for one) that didn't deserve it
Damian Lillard got in but Dwight Howard didn't??? What has Dame accomplished so far?
Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter being omitted is the biggest travesty IMO! Barkley, Malone and Melo didn’t win rings and they’re on there so I call bs!
TMac and Vince consistently missed the playoffs. They're the definition of "bad team good stats" guys. Melo made the playoffs 9 years straight, Malone made the playoffs for over a decade straight, and Barkley made the finals. Vince and TMac were missing the playoffs in a pathetically weak East in their prime.
@@vitocarlucci1114 The problem with your logic is that this so called Top 75 was not called “Top 75 That Made the Playoffs Sufficiently List”! Because then Dwight Howard most surely would’ve made it, he’s made the playoffs 12 times (10 years straight). But no, that ain’t it Vito, this list was more personal instead of completely based on stats. Dwight’s stats are off the charts w/ 8x all star, 8x all nba, 5x all def, 5x reb leader, 2x block leader, 3x DPOY, 19K point & 14K rebounds 😳, 2K blocks, and an NBA Champ. foh Adam Silver n his bs list.!!!
I dont understand Lillard being in there, even though he is a great player
He is controversial, but there ain't no way T-Mac or Parker are greater players than him.
@@guesswhonot1620 tmacs not better than lillard?? Like to see you try to explain that one lol
@@YakDPOY Tf did T-Mac accomplish that indicates he's still greater than Dame?
@@guesswhonot1620 i literally asked you to explain to me then you asked me? Ive laid out a bunch why i dont think dame should be on the list
@@YakDPOY First of all, you haven't laid out anything. And second, if you're so keen on saying that T-Mac is so much greater than Lillard, it shouldn't be hard to explain why. I can EASILY explain why he's not, but I just wanna see what you try to claim before I do.
I’m with you on the TMAC AND CARTER SNUB!!
I’m really just disappointed on why Damian Lillard is even on this list and not Dwight Howard ? I’m really just saddened that he got taken off this list , because like of his accolades , 3X Defensive player of the year and multiple time all star
A 6x all star
At most top 4 in mvp voting
Best playoff run a sweep WCF (for context: Dame isnt even the reason why they are in that WCF to begin with, CJ carried him in that Denver series)
And Damian Lillard is top 75 "All time". Total clown ranking
@@imdeidara1431 “cj carried him” lol and where are the stats
Dame really don't deserve to be on it
@@danielpeakperformerscoach exactly tho , and like it’s just embarrassing that he had to make that list too 🤦♂️.. like CJ carried him
@@jamman950 dude dame was no where to be found in game 7 vs denver in 2019