Making a Helicopter Camera Mount Spacer | Machining & Drilling
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2021
- In this video we are machining a spacer plate for a Helicopter anti-vibration camera mount. Our customer needs a spacer plate to test fitment of their new camera on the anti-vibration platform that attaches to their helicopter. We are using a piece of aluminium and machining the plate to size before using our super indexer and milling machine to drill the holes to complete the test spacer. This is a simple job but we thought it was pretty cool to show making a test part for a half a million dollar camera!
In this video we are using:
- TM-1740G Centre Lathe
- BM-63VE Milling machine
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Watching from Florida….. hang in there guys the patriots are coming❗️
Polair or news chopper
@@rogerrabbit9607 I'm here in Tampa likewise enjoying the Three Musketeers in Australia
So did anyone guess correctly?
Curtis. How are you able to do all from this episode? I thought you had you dictatorial prime minister closed down Australia because of the koof
Man, kurtis going on about his indexer reminded me of Full Metal Jacket “ this is my indexer, there are many indexers like this one, but this one is mine” lol
How can this comment only have 11 likes?
Nothing wrong with havin pride in your tools! lmao
LOL 😂
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The intro with helicopter landing, homeless rushing into the workshop in his jacket and (pilot) sun glasses was priceless…
Haha yeah Karen had fun making that intro
All he is missing is the 1000 Hr bash Hat and could Take the place of a few Capt's or FO's.
He was running in to tell the boys to get out the smoke room and back to work 🤣
I bet that was the customer who wanted the spacer! :D
The boss is coming... :-p
"I waited a long time to get this, now that I have it, I'm just gonna enjoy using it" this is deep wisdom from a true legend right here
Haha thanks mate 😎👍
Yeah, when I heard that, I immediately liked the video.
Not really imo. By itself it's just the sunken cost fallacy.
In this case it's not just that tho. It's a convenient way to hold the part and he didn't have to do trigonometry. While I'm confident he could have done that too it's also more error prone.
@@Erutan409 Me as well....
@@Kenionatus The sunken part fallacy would be saying that now he _must_ use it. He's saying he will now _enjoy_ using it. It's a different thing. He _could_ use a better or more precise tool if he needed to - he just chooses to use the older one once in a while for amusement value🤣. Sunken cost fallacy would be refusing to use another tool because he has paid for the older one.
I love the “I bought the bloody thing, so I’m going to use it” mentality. Too many people buy things they will never use or aren’t useful to begin with.
Plus the super indexer is just the perfect way to hold that part.
Same here. Love that. Too many keyboard warriors out there…. It’s his shop and his tools
It looks like the Super Spacer was the perfect tool to use since the part had to be centered no matter what. Also, instead of having to hit x y coordinates 8 times he had to hit the location once and then the rest of the locations clicked into place.
that's it mate but we do have a good laugh reading the keyboard warrior comments 😎👍
@@francisschweitzer8431 The keyboard warriors are dreamers with no tool :-D
I love this team, why use a bloody super computer, when plan old fashioned mechanical engineering doe's a fabulous job, cricky this guy goes from gas axe to high tech engineering, all very relatable stuff, keep up the good stuff guys.
The reason we can see and appreciate Kurt's machining skills, and his independent streak, is due to Karen's (Mrs. Kurt's) amazing, professional camera skills, her abilities to set up the proper lighting where she needs it, to get in close and show us the cutting edge and the inserts and other tools Kurt uses, to use Slo-Mo to show us the details at the cutting edge, her clear audio capture of Kurt's explanations and his occasional swearing, and her extraordinary editing ability, including incorporating a little humor into the mix, to make the expert-quality videos that are posted online every week. This is a true team effort! Without the great videos, CEE wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of loyal viewers from all parts of the world. Thanks again guys!
Wow thank you very much! That was a wonderful comment to read and definitely appreciated i'm glad you are enjoying the videos 😊 Karen
I like how Curtis's answer on why he uses an indexer over a DRO is basically fuck off I know what I'm doing.
Well, no, I give Kurtis more credit than that. His answer wasn't defensive. It was a real rationale at even an emotional level: I have it and it does a safe, precise, adequately efficient job; it was a dear investment when I bought it, and by using it I'll feel even better about my work at the end of the day. When faced with two options to do a task with a roughly equal cost/benefit, I also choose the one that employs a tool I put a lot into. I think most people do - but most don't have the confidence and vulnerability to own it out loud. That deserves credit.
@@ramanshah7627 fair point mate.
@@mrgumbook his not you mate, dude
I'd also say he's a bit of a traditionalist. Solid, proven techniques over innovation for innovation's sake.
(I'm on the opposite side of that spectrum. Why keep doing something when there may be a better way? Only often there isn't and I end up doing things less efficient. 😁)
I really appreciate Karen's attention to detail in the videography.
That was made so apparent when she asked Kurtis to move the boring bar in one of the outtake scenes.
Well done young lady.
Thank you I appreciate that and glad the videos are enjoyed 😊
Bloody lovely videos. Even got a few ASMR tingles off the indexer assembly! I really like engineering videos like this with just shop sound, attention to details, great angles and loads of time on each shot to appreciate the process. Outtakes also 👍😂😂 another lovely piece of work and great camera work complementing it.
"Now that I have it, I'm just going to enjoy using it." Just what Abom says about using his shaper.
That bloody shaper of his did my nut in, I just couldn't watch anymore shaping work 😡
Betty Swollocks same here, sure it’s good to own one but you can only watch it so many times
I've always wondered what the camera mounts look like for a civilian helicopter. I've seen what the military uses, but this is way cooler. Homey looks quite dapper in his pilot duds.
Yeah we thought it was a pretty cool piece of equipment
@Mr. Avuncular Great show!
Thanks for sharing!
@Mr. Avuncular Years ago, my dad told me he knows the pilot who flew the helicopter in Magnum PI. He was an ex South Vietnamese helicopter pilot, loose cannon, a little crazy, sure can fly a helicopter, and does some serious stunts with it too...
somewhere between civilian and military. close though.
Best sentence ever: I waited a long time until I got one of these. Now that I have it, I am just gonna enjoy using it. That's the attitude. :)
😎👌 cheers mate
Oh man, homie in aviators and a flight jacket? You are absolutely killing me. Excellent!
'Banana units', outstanding explanation of the problems of using 'freedom' units for precision engineering. I agree with Karen's insightful comment. 👍
It's really not that hard. I guess the rest of the world isn't as smart as us Americans are.
@@Jeremy-iv9bc No, its just easier with metric😉
3" USA USA USA!!!
@@Jeremy-iv9bc The fact that the apologetic "not THAT hard" needs to be used to describe it, implies it's conjecture nature. Also using the phrase "Work smart, not hard." alongside the aforementioned apologetic, one would conclude that it isn't very indicative of intelligence.
PS: Ohh...and I'm joking, of course :P
Metric has been taught in engineering schools for at least 40 years
Very cool. I was a flight test engineer for Lockheed for 40 years and spent a lot of time making custom metal bits to mount sensors on aircraft to support flight test programs. I loved Top Gun Homey.
Nice mate it's always great when a viewer can relate
Best bit of the video the slow-motion ball swing at the end to show who is the boss 😎
😂😂😂 Karen had too much fun with the editing on this video
LOVE hearing Karen in the outtakes, fantastic voice and laughter ;')
Karen does a wonderful job as a videographer, keeps Kurtis focused, shows his best profile and the final product is very satisfying to watch. You ought to go pro Karen (if you haven’t already).. My Best Regards you two.
I’ve been working at making some 1911 handguns and have reflected about how much more accurate my work would be if I had your workshop.
Hey mate thanks for the great comment we always appreciate support from our viewers. Having the tools and equipment makes such a difference like a kid in a candy store in this workshop 😂
The videos she produces are getting a million+ views on UA-cam which means they’re getting paid. That makes her a pro in my book.
His lathe chuck doesn't go down to 5" you might want smaller machine tools for making pistols. tank guns on the other hand, I reckon he's set up for that.
The snap of the indexer vs the beep of the DRO , no contest . Though 'cos I do ' is fair enough reason too.
When I saw that ring not fit on the reversed jaws, I said _"Betcha that makes it into the editor's cut."_
Then I watched the outakes, and *_Sho `Nuff!_* We got to hear Kurtis lose it! 🤣👏
🤣👍 you know me too well
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering put it in the video...leave your genuine reaction but bleep it out with a goat sound or something lol
I was wondering. As I would have just left his outside jaws on and held his 8" 3 jaw as a sub chuck.
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering You and you're Editor...
We ALL know she just wouldn't be able to resist leaving THAT in the Blooper Reel...
Homey was the STAR of the show today... Being an Aviator myself, I see potential in Homey in the Aviation Industry. As Homey lifts off waving Goodbye to Mum and Dad
Loved the intro. Coolest pilot I’ve ever seen 😎
Glad you enjoyed it had a bit of fun with the editing
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Yes Ma’am I agree with Lars.
I’ve been wondering how you got Homey to wear those glasses as long as you did.
That mandral setup really shows your experience, not seen very often now, but when needs, must
Aside from a clever way out if a problem, actually very very accurate since when he turned the mandrel that would by definition be exactky on axis with the spindle: possibly better parallelism than if he had been able to just flip it around on the chuck. Double win. Skill and experience shines :-)
"Now that I have it I'm going to enjoy using it ", best attitude!!
I'm all about what I call "quick and dirty" methods that are just as accurate rather than meticulous time wasting ways. I too love the super spacer as it is so easy to use. Keep up the great work all of you do.
Seeing that helicopter in the yard and you not talking about it has been driving me mad. So glad to finally know. Thanks for the great videos.
Sorry to tell you It's not for the red helicopter 🤣
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Hahahahhaha
Fucking love it, the "ill play with my toys however the fuck i want to" for the super indexer. Real cool bit of kit, ive never seen one before
😎👍 right on mate, more than 1 way to get a job done
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Keyboard warriors out themselves by implying there is only one way. If your in metal trades for any real period of time you'll learn that there are many different ways to do any job, some are faster, some are safer, some are more precise. You pick the way that is safest, the way you have tooling for and the precision that the customer is willing to pay for. With the safest and tooling having their own dialogue of the likelihood of injury, can you mitigate those risks, if the answer is no, then you have to buy tooling.
Your a production shop that needs to make money, so you problem solve. People don't seem to get that...
Its the best way if you got multiples pièces too
This dog is already a legend!!!!!!!!!!!
The Force is strong with this one, great with metal he is!
14:06 ... It is SO damn easy to make a mistake with the digital reader too ... If I had the super indexer in the shop I'd definitely use it.
Never change Kurtis. You get it honest.
... How, after watching your channel for years, did I manage to miss this little nugget!?
Right on time my Friday just got better, thanks Kurtis ! And the “ giggler “ 😁
Enjoy mate and have a good weekend
Nice to see the Gold Coast in the sun, tipping it down with rain when I was over in 2010, went to see ACDC at the QSAC stadium in Brizzie the following day, thankfully the rain had stopped...
It doesn't have to be always the "blinky blinky digital stuff" to work. The indexer has worked for a couple centuries; there's no good reason it can't work for a while longer. Maintain the plates in good shape, and it should be good for another 100 years. Besides, when the zombies attack and you need the indexer to machine that perfect bit to fend them off, you'll know how to run it. And not have to worry about a digital touchpad flaking out just when it gets really important that it work right.
I appreciate the time you took to film this video. That had to have added to the time for production of the spacer.
The super indexer would be heaps more fun to use than the DRO anyway, even if only for that satisfying "click".
I reckon Broady defo looks the nicest part of the Goldy from the sky.
Shout out to the Camera Lady! Never see any for her... so just know you're killing it!
Smooth action, great editing!
Slow mo shots take it over the top!
Thank you so much 😊
I don’t have a plan B, so this will work. 🤓 all turned out really well.
😎👌
Yup, it’s plan A and it’s going to work. No prisoners 🥸
It's Plan A and it Damn Well Better Work!
Mark from Melbourne Australia
That's the reason why I love your channel. No hater can stop Kurtis. Just do your thing man.👍
Safety officer coming in LIKE A BOSS!!! 👍
Love that indexer... simple man's tool for a simple job done and you threw in some electronic wizardry with it too. Plus some wobbly thingy to find the sides. All in all a great way to start my off Friday.
That's about the right distance to see the glitter coast , flying over it to somewhere better.
😂 so true!
The coolest, smoothest safety officer in Australia 🇦🇺 or the USA 🇺🇸 for the record...
Nothing Like A "Quickie" Job.
There’s so much to learn, so much to admire, and so much to enjoy and be amused by in your videos, way beyond the actual content. Now that’s art in itself, and why you have such a loyal and appreciative viewership.
Thanks for the hint on setting the thickness for a puck in the lathe. I have a travel indicator on my Weiler and this just added one more trick on how to utilize it.
ingenuity and patience win the day - didn't even need the crane to move the part around - well done
Some of your spiral chips can be considered art!
Love the super indexer vs DRO argument, when I started my apprenticeship we had a set of dividers, a black marker pen and a bench drill because the mill was broken down for the first few months I was there
I'll be honest, Im waiting to see your "I bought a HAAS CNC" phase to see who really curses better you or AvE.
Ave has 3 languages to curse in. Canadian, French and ave.
I think Tom Bailey would win the HAAS Owner's cursing war ...
Well, Kurtis would probably use it properly and just get the work done. Uncle Bumblef**k invests a lot of energy into just clowning around.
I've had a CNC and actually went back to a manual mill. For one offs, I find it easier to manually machine things, way less setup.
How does haas cnc work, millimeters or bananas?
Once again Curtis proves why he's a class act in his trade. A man passionate about his work and the tools that help support him and his family.
Thank you very much for opening Vietnamese subtitles, I will support you all the way
you're welcome 😁👍
I've done holes with both read outs and rotary table/dividing head. It's a bit of a toss up as to which is better/quicker. I find the rotary table/dividing head takes longer to set up but once done is faster when moving from hole to hole (this is especially true with a super indexer). For a one off part with relatively few holes I would probably use read-outs. For a number of parts with a fair number of holes I would use the rotary table/dividing head/super-indexer-if-I-had-one. Where read outs are really quick is when you have to machine a square/rectangular part held in a vise and then put a hole pattern in it. In that case they eliminate a second set-up on the mill table. In the end it is up to the machinists judgement to decide what he wants to do. Ken
Good insight mate thanks for the comment
Good discussion about the importance of the thickness. Accuracy is important, but also judging the level of precision needed can be one if the higher forms of machinist's art.
Very good comment, i work as a carpenter and there are also jobs where u need to put an eye on precision and some other jobs, where its useless to spend too much time on it. To decide which is which, is for many people not that easy as it seems to be.
@@sebastianb251 Yes, totaly agree. I often think that I can do just as good job on something as a professional, except the professional knows what are the key measurements for either fit or visual. I end up doing a 'good' job but it takes me five times as long as I try to get everything as accurate as I can because I don't know which 'error' would end up biting me.
I’m with you on using a particular tool. I love my tools and I’m always choosing certain hand tools over others. Just because there is an easier way doesn’t mean it’s fun.
The super indexer clicks feel so satisfying
Secret life of dogs. 😂 Loved all the behind-the-scenes in the outtakes, and as Karen said, “Shiny!” 😁 Have another great weekend, Team!
Love the way 0.01mm is ‘rough’. 🤣 (For those that work in medieval measurements, that’s about 4/10000“). Endlessly fascinating channel, as ever. Special shoutout for the Safety Officer.
Yeah the imperial system is fuckin mental
Especially the roughing cuts, where 5mm of that aluminium slab vanished at each pass. Most smaller lathes struggle with 1mm.
If you are referring to the 19.9 to 20.1 is plus or minus 0.004".🤔
Imperial system was used to send men to the moon. So, there’s that.
@@davidbingen2377 If the US used metric it wouldn't have been imperial
Love the new look for the safety officer.
just got to love ally gumming up on carbide tips !!!!!!!!
I remember using the dividing head, the super indexer is so much better. the wobble centering bit needs a video to explain how it works when you have time. Great video as always
hey mate thanks for the suggestion
Me in NZ: it's 7 pm, where's my CEE video?!?
Also me in NZ: oh yeah, daylight savings.
Ahhh did that start today over there?
Also - Homeless looks adorable in his Bomber jacket and Aviators.
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering last Sunday, so last video was at the same time, and I've had almost a week to forget it happened
Yeah, I am just across the NSW border, but I will have to wait an extra hour next week.... 🙁
Is NZ going to become AT when the name change referrendum happens? :)
Looks like a vibration dampener. Cools stuff. Love machining, cameras, and aircraft. What a mix, lol
Now that was a slick way to turn the OD. I would have never thought of using friction.
I can appreciate your response for your super indexer...basically "I finally found one, I bought it and cuz I like using it"! Once again, they know where to go to get it done right!
Homey: My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
Everyone else:
On behalf of everyone that hates ad shills, I'd just like to thank you guys for making no bullshit videos and not trying to peddle worthless garbage for money. Cheers.
Great job Kurtis don't minimize your part in it.you are a first class machinist and funny to boot. Lol
thanks mate appreciate that
It’s amazing to see the vast areas in daily life your skills can have an effect on - we can now add “aeronautical components” to the list.👍
Also, it was damn good of Homey to fly in on an off-day - taking a break from the beach babes & brews - to see if Kurtis was suffering from BANANA-SHOCK!🤣 Good man, that Homey!😎
Have a great weekend, guys - thanks - be well !!!
😁🙏🏻👍🇺🇸🍌
hahaa cheers mate, Yeah Homey is a doggo with many talents 😂👍
As I watched the intro, I was wondering how long Homeless would keep the glasses on. And at the very end we find out. Many thanks...
Thats a whole bunch of Bananas there to start off.
Also love to see Mr Wiggles coming into the shop. I know Safety Officer Homeless but gawd I love that pup!!!
this looks like a fun little task - the safety officer has his flight jacket and shades on - he's ready to fly. use the tools you're comfortable with - and make the job easier for you.
As someone who has very little experience with machining, but has drilled a hole circle with a DRO just using offsets from the center, i must say, using that indexer looks *much* easier. Hell even just using a dividing head that doesn't have the indexer functionality sounds easier in my book.
Learned something...I always thought y'all's drills spun counter-clockwise down there! (Or are you using American made drills??) And about the indexer vs DRO...Your house, your rules brother. Carry on!
What I enjoy (apart from the nice nameless dog) is that every video has a new and interesting tool. This time the Super Indexer.
Gday Kurtis and Karen, this is really a different job then normal, interesting shock absorber setup with the wire cable, never seen anything like that before, with the spin indexer there can’t be a mistake, dro is only as good as the dude punching the numbers in, Homey’s not bad at flying that’s for sure, most talented safety officer I’ve ever seen, great video mate, have a great weekend, Cheers
..."DRO is only as good as the dude punching the numbers in..." Ooooo BURN! LOL!
Oh man that’s so frigging cool. I want a ride in that Bell 505. Nice work buddy. Your super indexer is the ducks guts. As for the critics mate, always more than one way to skin a cat. Cheers Azza 👍🍻
Hey mate! Karen passed on your email thanks very much for that I will have a good read over it. Yeah always fun to go in a helicopter and never gets old seeing the red one take off and land. Have a good weekend mate
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Yes but you want bigger ones, they can do things the small guy cannot do. I remember sitting in the door, looking down past my boots at the sky, and up at the ocean, as the pilots took the 15 ton helicopter through a barrel roll.
About using the super indexer instead of the DRO: Apart from probably being faster to operate, there is also MUCH less room for error.
BTW: I am an honest to goodness keyboard warrior (full-time programmer) with a healthy respect for tried-and-true methods.
Hey Kurtis, thanks for the fly over. Australia is beautiful and I was amazed at the architecture of the coast line where you are. Keep on smiliing.
I love seeing what real people are doing on the other side of the world👌
Whats the cleanest thing in an engineering workshop?
The function button on the DRO
I was looking for the latest CEE video today and I was shocked to find out that I was no longer subscribed. UA-cam is screwing up again.
Argh we've had a few viewers say the same thing, not sure what's going on 🤨
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Tell 'em you'll send Homey round to sort em out if their not careful!
Who needs a plan B when you hire CEE👍💙
That’s one cool dude shop dog.
Nice job!
I used to like using that machine to get my bolt patterns dead nut perfect!
It’s amazing how the new guys are so spoiled using the new digital machines. They don’t have a clue on how we did this in the early 80’s.
They should be taught how to use the tools of the trade to really understand the fundamentals of machine shop 101.
Keep up the great work!
Love the simplicity of that mount. Nothing fancy, nothing special. Just plain simplicity that works. Doesn't get more KISS than that. I've done some surveying work with helicopters in the past and some of the things that come with rented equipment gives you a massive headache because you've doubts all the time you use the equipment if you're going to see a message "LiDAR connection lost" or whatever and find the impact hole on the ground because of it.
Lol Homey with sunglasses is just the best!
One hour! You are doing all machinists a huge service, in today’s world mechanics are so afraid to get a proper part made that they end up bubbleguming some crap together instead of doing proper work. Respect to CCE for improving the trades.
hey Kurtis, i dont know what i enjoy the most about your vid's, the excellent quality of the work you do or the outtakes. both are great..
Glad it's enjoyed mate 😎👍
i love homeless he is the best thank you for sharing him with us the machining is pretty cool too
Young guys....Kurtis your attention to detail is just out of this world.
The high flying boily/machinist all flyin up all over the coast, livin the dream:-)
Who knows a good machinist? There's this man. Kurtis. C.E.E. He can work quick magic...
13:30 ... Love the Monogramed shop rags!! :)
Thanks and have a nice weekend to all of you
That’s a jam chuck! Nice job Curtis.
My shop has an entire shelf of indexers of every size and shape. In the 8 years I have been there I never seen them used. Each is serialized and certified for traceability and every six months a PM work order is generated to service each piece. As a maintenance tech I do the PM and can't wait to see them used one time. With CNC mills and lathes with live tooling, bolt circles are just a few keystrokes away. I like the old school as well.
You're one clever bastard Curtis. Well done.
Like a boss .... every time !! (Safety officer.. not you, sorry)😎 Keep up the great content, Hard to find people that do it right no matter the time/effort needed.
The things I could learn from following this guy around for few months would be awesome.
One thing I like about you Kurtis is that you look after your tools and equipment.
I have never seen you “gorilla “ anything. Great example for people just starting out who watch you.