CONSTRUCTION SITE: JLG Lift No Steering!
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Ahh another malfunctioning JLG scissor lift...
This 2005 JLG 4394RT lost steering controls, and the customer needs it fixed YESTERDAY!
Let's see if we can efficiently pinpoint the problem, and maybe even fix on the spot the PHAD WAY ;)
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Enjoy!
Ivan - Авто та транспорт
We didn't have those scanner before 1990s .
Now much easier.
JLG the best.
"John Leslie Grove" of Grove Cranes fame.
We had many cranes.
Ivan go to Manitowoc Cranes in Pine Grove, PA.
Ask about Hirschman LMI computer training school.
You can make a fortune trouble shooting new Crane and or man lift computer control system s.Few can do this well as you do .I did for years on our own machines in NYC .I picked up a JLG code reader tester a few years ago. It actually acutuates each function to test.
Tell owner to cover control box from rains.
New age cranes are like avionics intense.
Excellent work Thanks.
PS my family escaped from Soviet Union in 1930s.
Shalom
VERY INTERESTING COMMENT & GOOD FOR YOUR FAMILY, Mitzvah.
@@NoWr2Run thanks.
YES SIR.
NASCAR Scissor lift. only makes left turns..
ivan fixes everything, atleast it keeps life interesting, nice change from working on cars all the time
I remember when vehicles were about 80% mechanical, 20% electronic (rough estimate). If something wasn't working you could usually narrow it down to three possibilities. Fast forward fifty years and you find yourself having to eliminate an overwhelming amount of potential electrical problems (hardware & software) before you bother looking for mechanical issues, and you usually have to have the proper diagnosing equipment (i.e. scanners) to even get started. Wow, have things ever changed!
I guess it is kinda off topic but does anyone know a good place to watch newly released series online?
@Felix Gunner Flixportal
@Luciano Evan Thank you, I went there and it seems like a nice service =) I really appreciate it!
@Felix Gunner You are welcome :)
It is now legally impossible to produce these things without intelligent controls, as some mandated features cannot be implemented without them.
As soon as you pressed the switch, my hunch was a bad connection. The scan tool sure makes a diagnosis a lot easier and quicker. I am amazed at how much electronics and computer boards have infiltrated all kinds of equipment.
Acquiring the right wiring diagrams is critical. Thank you. Great Video. Richards "Mobile" Auto and Air
Thank you Richard!
Why such a tiny wire gauge? It just popped open?
Now the fault will migrate to next weak spot.
That continuity tool really saved you hours of climbing
and searching. A very cool investment!
Ivan certainly hopes so as that would be another $300 service call.
Tiny wires because they run through a small metal tube through the joystick handle to the top where the switches are.
You always make me smile, would love to meet you, well done !!! From the UK
Good work, effective diagnostic
Such a clean and random break. Interesting indeed. Nice job Ivan!
That was a gift to find that so fast. You would have nailed that without the scanner in a few min but cool tool
Nice work Ivan
Gotta love those diagnostic testers. Good job!
I have worked with similar equipment. That fault actually looks like a lazy worker needed a day off and snipped a random wire. I had these issues on a few occasions.
Did look pretty clean didn't it? LOL
Super cool Ivan.
Applying basic troubleshooting skills along with intelligence (buying the right tool) you get immediate results. Keep it up.
Not sure what those construction guys are used to paying for service call repairs..... but I’d bet it’s ridiculous. Glad you can fund your family and save them the dough too. To me, that’s the American way. Help your brother and everyone wins.
You are a hero in my eyes you can fix anything and you keep the videos interesting thanks for your time Bill LI NY
Very cool video Ivan, I love your new JLG Diagnostic tool
That was a nice diagnostic break after that last one! Guess it all balances out in the end.
Slick tool you got there! That made things 100x easier, for sure. Whatever it cost, it was well worth it. Nice work, Ivan! 👍🍻
Wow that was a quick and easy fix great work buddy c u on the next one thanks....
Ivan, Thanks so much on the heads up on the soldering iron. I just grabbed one thru your store. Used my amazon bucks to make it a free one ;) . Just what I was looking for as Im tired of lugging an extension cord out to the car for soldering work. Great video and keep em coming!
Nice! You will love it!
And here I was thinking green goblins in the joystick, what a great tool, great job Ivan
Love the Plant videos.
Nice job Ivan. Nice tool
Nice, a 90% clear cut easy to fix one. No tracing down intermittent connections. On to the next one, yup. Pine Hollow Construction Equipment Diagnostics.
Any chance those gears on the joystick chopped through the wire?
Great question, Graham! It seemed to be tight in the same bundle...quite a mystery.
Thank you sir 💞
I like this kid.
He has skills!
He ain't tool skeered either!
That's nice you picked up an analyzer. The switch was my first guess, because that steering switch is one of the heaviest used items on that lift. I wasn't expecting a broken wire though. LOL
Ivan you are on the top of the trouble shooting love to see your videos your logic is out of this world thank you for showing us
My pleasure!
You are fearless to take on the job's that you do
You the man Ivan ...John in the UK
Damn man you're getting all the good ones. Nice job! Keep it up and congrats on all the success!
I would say on these lifts it's either a 10-minute diag, or a multi-day repair lol
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Doesn't matter either way Ivan. You GET PAID either way.
@@satamanschmidt3428 well it sure beats working on rusty clunkers! I'm almost starting to like the sticky clay mud 😅
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Just remember Ivan, the stickier the mud the higher the bill. Time for you to play this song by the great James Brown: ua-cam.com/video/c5BL4RNFr58/v-deo.html. Don't you just love it?
Very nice video
good job
Amazing sir👌👌👌
Not a whole lot of strain relief protection. You have to wonder if that gear in the background played into it although those wires look anemic. Maybe we'll see that scan tool again in a more in depth use in a future video. Love the wire holder. That's an invaluable yet simple soldering aid tool. Nice work. Thanks for posting.
More JLG vids coming soon 😉
Ivan, the construction lift whisperer
Hey Ivan get yourself a "ts100" soldering iron it's great it's 12vdc soldering iron. It heats up quick. I have one and use it all the time. I put alligator clips on it so what ever equipment I'm working on I just use it's battery. Sometimes I bring a 3 cell lipo for it
Last time I was at home Depot I noticed Ryobi makes a cordless soldering iron that takes the One+ 18V batteries. I was tempted. I have two of those Radio Shack ones but the Ryobi may be the way to go...
Wow bro amazing job thnx for uploading this video please uploading again next time
Glad to hear that you enjoyed it! More to come!
Thats Ivan !!
Right tool for the job is always worth the price.
Im sure this pays more than diagnosing a car...maybe its time to become a dedicated on site repair man.😀👍 great video
I have the Power Probe micro torch PPMTKIT01, It's $64.00 on Amazon. I've been happy with it so far, seems well made and it works every time.
Smashing, you have a simple one for a change :-D
Yes i know you love to fix complex faults but an easy one is nice :-D
I was thinking it was that sloppy/loose cable on the platform floor, not a place for a control cable, in my opinion of cause .
Ivan thinks oh yeah! Another lift to fix, yippee!! Then whips out the fancy scanner then finds the broken wire! Solders it. Then the lift says thanks, now i got wheels to move lol!!! Great fix!
With some things tools can make all the difference!
That is one tidy scanner. Did not expect the problem to be so straightforward and was anticipating deeper waters ahead. However you were well prepared with the relevant wiring diagrams and brain power from then on. Nice change from the world of autos, which begs the question, where do we go next ? Perhaps a jumbo 747, or an F35 jet fighter or why not a straightforward submarine ? Might be a bit of a struggle finding the proper wiring diagrams.
If you can get me a good wiring diagram, I'll take a stab at the diagnosis 😁
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics --- I have some friends who are commercial aviation mechanics, they're all bored and counting the years until their retirement. Aviation mechanic's jobs no longer have any challenges, diagnostics are all software and much easier than automotive. Fixing things is purely remove-and-replace, they are encouraged to use the parts cannon approach, nothing, not a single module is serviceable by a mechanic. If somehow a broken wire were detected the mechanic would replace the entire wiring harness or more likely the entire panel or unit, never could they fix a single obviously broken wire. And there are no wiring diagrams, the factory doesn't have them, only the design engineers.
That butane soldering iron appears to be available on the Radio Shack web page. It has some, but not all, of the tools that used to be sold in the stores.
I saw that, but it seemed to be of worse quality than the older model... Like so many things it seems!
Yes, it’s sad to see some of the old brands go downhill. Craftsman tools are another example that comes to mind.
Who da man? You da man! Nice!
lol thanks Scotty :)
Hi great video, where did you get the electrical diagram?
Sweet!
thats one sweet tool!
Yeah I bought it a while ago and have been itching for a good diag to use it on ;)
Hey Ivan, check out the Master Appliance UT100si. Very versatile and robust. I own 3 and use them in the field quite often. Solder and heat up shrink tubing all in 1 shot.
phew lucky it was in the joystick box uptop, i was not looking forward to seeing you in the mud checking steering valves.
Ivan, are you still working at your newer job or are you back to automotive/construction equipment full time? I'm love the amount of videos and quality of them.
Again, as always, under sized/engineered electrical systems. How that wire broke is amazing, it had no contact with any object but failed due to vibration. Imagine that, vibration occurring on a construction machine ! The should have loomed that group of wires and attached it to the box preventing movement etc.
You can't prevent movement of that set of wires because one end attaches to the moving joystick shaft. They could have used more robust wires or loom though.
@@Graham_Wideman Yes, large gauge wires and terminals would also have prevented this failure.
Nice!
Sweet.
Are you jumping the fence and snipping the wires in the early hours.. lol nice vid i love these strange machines.
LMAO, I thought it was the GENIE AGAIN.
So you fixed the ground control. Good work. Would have been nice to see you verify that the platform control worked also.
That was the platform control! I just relocated the box for better access ;)
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics My mistake. I didn't realize the platform controls were able to be relocated.
Major Tom thanks you.
@@JD-iu3vi LOL
Ivan another great video. You'll need to invest in your own hard hat with company name. You may need to rename though.
PHAD - Pine Hollow Anything Diagnostics
Those cables are so thin and flexible because they go up the joy stick. If that particular cable broke because of work hardening then it is highly likely to break again fairly quickly as by soldering it you have added rigidity to the cable reducing its flexibility somewhat. However judging by the look of the break it is possible it has been deliberately cut... Perhaps somebody wanted to be sent home early. Suspicious bugger aren’t I. Lol.
Broken cables happen a lot on motor vehicles especially the drivers door (most used) They can set up an awful lot of what I call ‘silly codes’. Nothing making sense. The last one I did was off a Ford Galaxy people carrier. It had a total of twenty five cables running through the hinge. Eight were totally broke, ten were frayed leaving not to many still intact. The shorting between circuits was astronomical as were the fault codes. No wonder it was sent through the auctions.
Good video though. Very handy gadget.
Regards,
Peter A.
Thanks for the comment Peter! Haha when I saw that broken wire it seemed too perfect xD
Odd that the wire was visibly broke. Ok, wires can have weak spots in them and go open over time, but usually the insulation stays intact. So I'm guessing that one was nicked or pinched during manufacture and just sat there, waiting to completely fail from day 1.
my guess is joystick hat switch or wire where it flexes in the stick itself. since it's not raising the rpm, I'd assume no command from module, because of no input :)
now to watch and see lol
Next video on the kindergarten series, how to diagnose a flat tire.
I love your use of wiring diagrams, here and in other videos. Any chance you could mention where you get them? I know you used to get some from BBB, but they're not available there any more (copyright take-down?) But if you had to buy them, or the customer had the service manual, .... just mention it.
Hey Ivan, In your attempt to turn right (at the 10:37 mark) it didn't seem to go full right like it did full left and also sounded like the engine was straining to do so. Did sitting in the mud to long have anything to do with it? I agree with some of the other comments regarding that broken/cut wire being very suspicious. Were the top plate screws loose! LOL. Good stuff, thanks for sharing!
I think milwaukee makes a cordless soldering iron.
Well that was a simple fix whit the scan tool
U got lucky !
Milwaukee came out with a nice cordless soldering iron.
hmm you have a link?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Check this out at Amazon.com
M12 REDLINK Soldering Iron Kit W/LED Light www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZW7379/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_JHPxEbA5350M4
@@vettepicking cool! Some reviews on another site said that the plastic melts if you leave it on too long... Wonder if they upgraded the design?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics must have been written by a dewalt bot......
Hey Ivan, you can still buy the Radio Shack butane soldering iron from radioshack.com. And (believe it or not) there are STILL about 400 operating Radio Shack stores. They're mainly in more rural areas. I think you're around State College, right? "Near" you there's one in Philipsburg and one in Mount Union.
Cool!! R u still working your non automotive job? Thank u for the learning!
I have 4069le not move or raise or steer ,I replaced the drive controller
Nice work, Ivan! Where’d you find the JLG reader? Too cool.
YES THAT IS A " COOL TOOL ".
Everything is available online these days... Very convenient!
You really should consider adding it to your Amazon store. 🤔
Ivan,
Great video and fix -thank you! I was wondering if you could comment on your current status - are you doing these types of repaairs full time again or you do you still have the 'day job'?
God bless
Paul (in MA)
I join the question!
Hi Paul! The vibration analysis job was awesome for a couple years. However the leadership wasn't interested in improving the customer service process so it got stale and frustrating in the end. I enjoy being my own boss 😉
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics А можно ли прожить, на доход от сегодняшнего заработка? Мне известно, что Эрик закрыл свою мастерскую. С удовольствием бы посмотрел видео на эту тему...
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Ivan,
Glad to hear - and see - that you are doing what you love! (and you are damn good at it!)
God bless
Paul (in MA)
The portisol is the same soldering iron and as the Snapon one.
Thanks for the info Justin! Have you tried it?
Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics yea I have it. Bought it from Snap-on though. But it’s the same one. Works good had it for 3 years now
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To: Ivan Temnykh
Subject: Cease and desist
Sir: It has come to our attention that your "Russian repairs" and refusal to employ the parts cannon has caused severe harm to manufacturers of replacement auto parts. You are hereby ordered to cease and desist in making such repairs.
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You would (maybe) enjoy Atlas Shrugged, the movie (5 hours).
The book is much better, but is a 4 month read.
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CONGRATULATIONS for video repair !!...but is very easy problem....a smal cable joystick failed!!...i can see....problems whitH tractions motors and pump motor eletric ...and too brakes eletromagnetics and brakes hydraulics & sensor speed!!!!...... no easy!! in Brasil is all very price...and need repairs alls!!...I AM A SPECIALIST REPAIRS PARTS MEWLPS!!
You should move forward or back before steering. It's much easier to steer when moving.
Do you really think he doesn't know that ?
Nice! Where are you getting these diagrams for these various machines, and do you have to subscribe to a service, or can you buy them as you need them? Thx!
The internet 😉
I heard, but didn't verify, that BBB Industries is no longer making wiring diagrams available... Is this true? And do you recommend any other sources?
Yeah it's a shame! I don't know of any other free sources at the moment :(
Each brand of car has a forum on the Internet. There, the entire leak of closed technical information is concentrated, including wiring diagrams. But look for her, for a long time. So we get the information we - repairmen in Russia.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I can't tell without registering... Are they there for those who register? (assuming you are)
Yes, registration is required in the forum. Having to register is easy.
@@engeneer_ru5827 Still doesn't answer whether or not a registered guest has access to schematics...
Looks like sabotage to clean of a wire cut, still good troubleshooting.
That is a pretty silly design to be open and exposed like that. You'd think that they'd either wrap it in friction tape or plastic conduit to prevent that. I'm sure that's not the first JLG to have that happen to it. Vehicles in general are creatures of habit, what happens to one generally happens to all.
Too easy of a job for you, way below your pay grade. Good job, it was fun to watch.
It's nice to get an easy one once in a while 😁
WELL...THAT was easy!
Bring corset from Aleskyfinis
Always check where the 200 lb gorilla interfaces with the tool
There are more mega warehouse s being built in that part of Pennsylvania than in the entire world!???
Are they all Amazon logistics?
For ten years I have seen huge 1 .5 million sqft tilt wall Ware houses on rte 78-81 now in Virginia also.
No mfg factories just load docks forklifts jobs...
Spooky
Solder plus vibrations = 🪀
That wire running through the dirt and trash does not inspire a lot of confidence in this electronically controlled lift!
No parts cannon needed
Tiny gauge / diameter wire . What a pain . Not reliable as a good gauge wire would be .
They need to make machines with mechanical parts much better than computer control electronic junk
ummm well submit a design, maybe construction companies will buy it!!
Hi Ivan are you still doing your day job
Hey Chris! I maxed out the learning curve on that job and it got kind of boring... So I'm working for myself full time at the moment 😎
Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics sorry it didn’t work out but your a smart guy you’ll survive
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