Murs And Talib Kweli Discuss EL-P And White Rappers In Hip-Hop | People's Party Clip
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In this clip from People's Party, Murs and Kweli talk about the influence El-P had on their careers, how hard it was for him coming up as a white rapper, and whether white rappers today face nearly the struggle. Full episode this Monday 9am est/6am pst.
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What song is playin at the end? I know its Talib
@Technews do a little homework on El-p, company flow and def jux if you haven't heard of him. It's really not that absurd of a comparison...
@Technews lol so you know Mr. Lif and Aesop Rock, both of whom put out some of the earliest records on Definitive Jux aka El-P's label, but you don't know El-P himself? You've literally never heard of Funcrusher Plus? Possibly the most important album in the history of what became underground hip hop?
The girl ruined this saying white people dont have to work hard to succeed
Bryan Harrison her comment and others like that baffle me, that people think that other ethnic backgrounds don’t struggle due to their skin color? Ignorant as they come
This is what hip hop should be: a community. Guys like El-P remind us of that
I'll rephrase that as cultures are meant to be shared.
@JefferyTornadothe3rd this is just not true tho. You know that Dave Chapelle joke "that white boy had to do some SHIT" look at guys like jack Harlow.. he should be flipping fucken burgers for a living 🤷♂️
@@HamhocksUnlimited The same era when Dennis Rodman was saying Larry Bird wasn't a good baller and only got recognition because he was white, stop re-writing history
Slug from Atmosphere should also be mentioned and Ant!
Lord Jamar had a heart attack after this video
Paolo 73 Ha! no doubt.
Would have loved for him to be part of this convo.
Actual lol
Ye, Lord Jamar can go fuck himself with his bigotry. THAT has no place in hip-hop
White people ARE guests in the house of hip hop.
😂
Murs seems like the coolest dude to have as a friend.
Can verify Murs is the coolest dude. On camera and real life.
RIGHT?! he just gives off a vibe like he would be awesome to sit and have the BEST conversations with. he puts off the vibe, through his lyrics and in videos, like he has some deep shit to say, and his music is just a slice of it.
@@mrsicness1 one of those guys who is super talkative and opinionated.. and u realise why he is so prolific lyrically.
A Gay friend
EVER!
Big up El P. I loved Company Flow. I loved Cannibal Ox. I love Run the Jewels. I love El P and I'm grateful for his existence.
The Cold Vein is still one of the best Hip-Hop album of all time.
Dude im from South Africa I use to bump Company flow growing up. El P is a legend, what ever happened to Big Jus
Cold vein is a flawless album. Def jux was dope too. Aesop rock and Tony hawk's Pro skater got me into hip hop
steps to perfection is my all time fav
Funcrusherplus
El's production has been top tier since the start, co flow baby say no more
RUGGED LIKE RWANDA!
Sick rapper as well
His rappin is also dope as fuck
@@ToroidalVortexLove Literally listened to FunCrushers Plus because of a comment yesterday
Little Johnny from the hospital
El-P is a legend. One of the finest MC-Producers of all time. Indelible MCs, Company Flow, RTJ. Wild how good he is.
It's also wild how LONG he's been doing it
The most controversial part of this video is Talib Kweli said that Macklemore is dope
Naw the most controversial part is when he said he opened up for dude for like a year. It's like man you are Talib Kweli. You shouldn't HAVE to open up for no Macklemore.
lmao right. I cringed.
@@Genocide4 man this is beyond fucked up.
Yo that’s messed up
I know this was 2 months before the scandal..but he should also censor that atrocious fucking hat...
AesopRock and El-P are like the Gods of white rappers
Aesop Rock is the sleeptest on ill whiteboi wordsmith emcee in the game.
@@hugh_jasso Don't forget about Apathy and RA The Rugged Man.
Yall slept. Cage.. Yak Ballz... Sage Francis.. The Grouch... and the God himself EYEDEA.
@@fooglez Cage fell off hard.....
@@JoeBlue99 Smoking wet will do that to you.
Def Jux is immortal. Such an insane line-up on that label, so many ill collaborations. I still spin Def Jux wax every day.
Man Def Jux was the best label ever even when they got sued by Def Jam and had to change their name to Definitive Jux
same man I still kinda regularly listen to stuff like El P's solo albums, Aesops stuff from Def Jux, Cann Ox, Murs' def jux albums..etc. Been listening to that stuff since I was in highschool and still not really tired of it lol
EL-P is the Legend nobody ever talks about. Dude gets no credit. Been a fan Company Flow and like Talib says it's great that he didn't try to own black hip hop.
I been hearing him mentioned in this light several times recently though. It's about time.
RTJ headlines major festivals all over the world, the fuck you mean he's not talked about??
@@ilovemikerogers the locals don't know who he is. if you're not a hip hop head, you don't know who he is. hell, even some people who just casually listen to RTJ don't know who he is. they only know Killer Mike. I've seen it happen. "it's Killer Mike and... this other guy!"
@@curvytangerine Yeah, I don't think some even some dedicated RTJ fans know the scope of El P's impact at all.
@ilovemikerogers nah 100% nobody knows who he is to this day. If you ask someone "you ever heard of run the jewels?" "Yeah". "So you know el-p?" "Who?" And then I have to explain el p to ppl its fucken irritating
Murs should quit DX and join Talib on this pod. DX is 90% gossip 10% Hip Hop. I really enjoyed this mature convo. 😌👌🏾
zislec Agreed. Talib doesn’t fuck with DX anymore because of son fuckshit they pulled on him.
Murs is a real one
100
Murs is like the one real nigga DX has tho lmao
@@LouieV6 what did they pull? don't know about that
El-P been in my top 20. Dude is one of the illest wordsmiths I came across. When I first heard “The Fire in Which You Burn” and his bars I was hooked. I listened to that shit over and over and over again. Couldn’t bilee that shit. It was transcendental lyricism by every MC on it but for me, his shit was above them all (gonna listen to it again right now). Been a fan since. Respect to Murs & Talib for acknowledging his place in the hip hop firmament.
Indelible MC!
UPROXX Video Simian drugs.
That song sounds like trash, dude…
This was a great example of the difference between “poser who tries too hard because they don’t belong” vs “outsider who tries their best but they love it so they overcome”
Man it's still crazy seeing Kweli being such a pioneer for our culture man. Going from the dude i used to chill with in his basement dreaming about making it in the game,to one of the most respected dudes in the game with bars. Now an embassador and voice for us. Man,if you read this King,I'm so proud of you bro. Ya boy Cy.
I discovered El and Talib at the same time thanks to Soundbombing Vol.1
I still have this CD and Lyricist Lounge Vol. 1.....so many underground pioneers on it
iyaramonk me too! That disc is actually in the current 6 cd changer rotation in the car. Shits still great.
@@treythehardway yup
You mean SB 2?
@@OOCASHFLOW soundbombing 1 2 Llounge 1 2 great cd
As a white man nearing 40 I grew up on Murs, TCQ and the Roots. I loved their music. Lord Jamar really had me feeling weird the way he thought about white peoples and hiphop. I’m so glad these guys break it down far more in depth instead of the superficial existence of melanin. I could listen to these intellectual giants talk all day.
Jamar is a racist clown with antiquated ideas about people and art.
Lord Jamar also said that Macklemore is famous because he makes music that gay people like and gay people secretly run the entertainment business. So...
@@KUROHiTO88 talib ain't innocent himself 😂
Superficial middle of melanin?
That’s a new one.
Are you invalidating your own post?
Who tf is the nobody throwing her opinion in the presence of legends !! 😅
The Weathermen are all some of the most underrated rappers ever
Murs is gettin grey hairs!? F**** im getting old
I just turned 30. It's a trip.
@shaolinWOLF36 Young dudes are getting white hair these days. Even some people younger than me have it. I'm 37 and i'm seeing it too.
It Happens
ill Drumatik I just turned 49 in June.. Mind boggling as fuck
Had grey hair since I was a child, but I get your point.
Company Flow. Fantastic damage. So much top tier stuff from El-P
*"Soon you'll see, as I flow fluently to frequently, another emcee...will drop off the face of this earth, for what it's worth, I've been the nastiest one since birth"*
-EL P
thats BMS but yea
This conversation is great. It would’ve been nice to mention Aesop Rock.
The guy has managed to become one of the greatest RAPPERS of all time, (a prolific career touching 3 decades) regardless of race and still manages to remain relatively obscure
Also has the highest vocabulary of any other rapper by at least 1000 words. As in he's used 1000 words that other rappers haven't
Big props to El-P!
Yo!! Kweli and Jasmin you guys are dope! Nobody that interviews Murs asks him about El-P or Def Jux. I thought they had beef cus they never mentioned each other. But Kweli is a true rap historian so he knew the connection. Much love from the UK!!
Kweli and Murs.. damn what a combo. Damn they could make some incredible music together. - Good talk about EL-P. I'm listening.
el-p definitely has a unique style but he works hard to move upwards. Had a label, some great solo stuff obviously and rtj is like a brand right now.
EL-P is dope 🔥
Much respect to Murs. Always offered love and support from the jump. One of the greats.
Young girl has some learning to do. Her statements display a clear lack of understanding of nuance. If you think "going corporate" has more to do with skin color than background, you are ignorant. Young Em would've had an impossibly difficult time getting a white collar job, being a high school dropout and from an impoverished family. The lady is trying to turn a class issue into a race one.
She’s fuckin stupid as shit
Kind of glad they just brushed her off and went "Yeah ..." instead of engaging her.
Right? He grew up in the trailer park. That's the white version of the projects. He grew up poor as fuck and worked shitty blue-collar jobs. Poor people don't get the education that rich people do. That's because it's all based on property taxes. The poorer your neighborhood, the worse the school generally. Even if the school is predominantly white. The cast system in the US is a 2-tier system. It is based on race AND money. I used to think just like this girl until I moved to Central California and actually met white people in the projects and in the hood.
She only echoed the arguments offered by Murs and Talib, so not sure why you’re singling her out...
Saying any white person can just basically walk into corporate America is retarded.
I hate the term white privilege because it focuses on race.
Of course some people do have privileges, many of them are white. Mostly it's class privilege, hell you can even have language privilege.
Do you think a white Polish person with poor English is not going to struggle in a society dominated by the English language?
These people have privileges they don't even recognize because they're always focused on whitey
El p is one of the most important artist and rappers ever. Top 5 as a rapper and producer all time. He’s the reason you got experimental hip hop like atrocity exhibition, some rap songs, any mike album etc. he’s the reason many rappers like mr lif and more are put on the map. He’s deep and I say that with pride not someone you will go to for bangers or shit necessary. But you will be in a hell of a experience when you realise what he’s talking about and how it shows what society really is heading towards. Show this man the respect he deserves
Fantastic damage is timeless . The shit he did on iron galaxy is my all time favorite hip hop track .i always wanted to see him produce a KRS ONE and a MF DOOM album , he produced a Zack de la Rocha that was never released would have loved to heard that
I have to disagree to the leader of experimental hip hop like atrocity exhibition and other projects because many of his sounds n patterns are based from a bomb squad production. The person who put atrocity exhibition is paul white and those sounds for unique to his production. However el p is a pivotal artist in the underground for a certain section.
This is a good chat...love run the jewels mix of new school and old
EL-P a beast at rapping and producing!
El Producto was already dope on Company Flow's first album on track's like "8 Steps To Perfection" and "Krazy King's" not to mention "End To End Burner's". But for me homeboy got solidified as the "best white rapper" after I heard him spit on "Patriotism" on the "Soundbombing Vol. 2" album. That's one of the dopest track's in the history of hip-hop music!
Such a dope song.
Someone go inform Kweli that Hitler didnt build the Berlin Wall.
HAHAHAHA damn.. but there were just a few years between both occurrences and you cannot blame US people for not knowing european history
@@Hanutabluta it's world history. I'm a white Australian but I know a lot of about African history. History is history from anywhere on the planet and it's all interesting.
@@jpah8944 Yeah and I'm from Pluto but I can spell Stroganoff smh gtfo lmao
Murs just looks like he knows the meaning of life and where Tupac is hiding at
Where tupac is at lmao. You killed me bro
On God 😂😂
😂👌✨🤘
33?
@@dubkonnection3420 33rd degree, highest order
*Eyedea* also one of the dopest white mcs ever too, another underrated guy who had an insane flow. Maybe he wasn't underrated but fairly unknown relative to the publicity he deserved that's for sure.
*I hate that everyone forgets about Eyedea and Blind Fury is crazy nice as well... But Eyedea smoked everyone in his path before battle rap was pop.*
EYEDEA CHANGED MY LIFE
Eyedea was very known in the early 2000's in the underground hip hop scene, I was a young kid from Chicago and I knew of him along with Crescent Moon whom he used to freestyle with.
Long live Eyedea, makes me proud to be from the same city as he was!!! STP stand up!!! MN! 🙏🏻💪✌️🕊🎤📻
Eyedea was unbelievable! In my top 5 for sure!
Fantastic Damage is unmatched.
Man, I could listen to Murs talk all day. Put him together with Talib Kweli and my day is made. This is approaching Rick Rubin interviewing Kendrick Lamar level.
I remember when End to End Burners was on rotation on Rap City.
as a graffiti artist from the tri state in the 90s that was our anthem
I think Ill Bill and Necro need to he acknowledge also, specially Necro because i feel like He is too under appreciated but the impact his beats have in the underground hip Hop scene worldwide it's undeniable and really amazing, I Say specially Necro because i feel that Ill Bill it's more acknowledge for the fact of being part of La Coka Nostra and being recognized among other legendary rappers like Everlast or B-Real. But man I'm glad El-P gets His well deserved props, His lyricism is one of the illest and his production and entire catalog and history in the music industry it's to be respected
Good call and I feel like u also have to mention cage and mr eon
ill bill is one of my personal favorite rappers. top 5. whats wrong with bill is a perfect album.
I also have to throw in RA the Rugged Man.
No one ever mentions R.A. Rugged man
"I thought I was the illest until I heard RA" - Biggie
@@SingeSabreClassic I see what you did there.
@@n.montague743 RA and Biggie used to cruise the hood in Biggie's car back in the day.
Or ICP truthfully....
@@n.montague743 Rugged Man has co signed Jamar's comments. Jamar also shouted out Apathy, Vinnie Paz and RA
Good to see people able to talk about such topics. Big love
That one El-P/Murs track with the double time flows is still fresh
El-P has always been an inspiration. Both as an artist and as a business model. He was rising as I really started getting into the indie scene. His "independent as fuck" slogan spoke right to my core, because he was doing things his way and being successful at it. Then as an artist, he's crafted a whole sonic universe. No one really sounds like him as a producer, or as a rapper. And watching him evolve from being ill in Company Flow (but letting dense lyrics get in the way of flow), to learning to be dense with much better timing..and seeing that same evolution with his beats after going solo. Even when my musical explorations took me away from hip hop for years, his releases would always be ones I come back to check for and always be impressed by.
I got to see Murs and El-P in Chicago. Still one of my favorite shows!
I remember buying underground hip-hop magazines, their promo was as nice as the music at Def Jux.
El-P is a legend, I'm glad he's still getting his shine.
As dope as Sound bombing was, it takes brass to start your own movement, look back at your former management, and tell them you'd "rather be mouth-fucked by Nazis unconscious" than work with them again. That's a cold burn.
Company Flo was the shit. EL-P is just a cool as dude.
Company Flow Yes Yes.... Brother Ali, Alchemist, Evidence, Action Bronson, Apathy, Ill Bill, Slaine, Esoteric.......
Add Edan, the humble magnificent to that list.
Evidence is not white?
@@gzus213 Are You Asking Or Stating He Isn't.....
@@crahm1 And White Or Not To Add On The List Ryu, Celph Titled, RA The Rugged Man, Scoop Deville, Open Mic, Louis Logic, Eternia, The Four Owls, Your Old Droog, Akir, Immortal Technique, Big Pun Maaaaaaan The List Goes On.....
Atmosphere
I like how Murs patiently lets home girl say her piece and then says "yeah" and just continues on talking about his point.
There's a really simple rule of thumb that'll tell you whether a white artist is legit: are they being themself.
If they're 'being black' when that's not who they are outside of the music - that's fake. Your Vanilla Ices, Fred Dursts, and Iggy Azelias. People who use hip hop and rapping to express themselves without being something they're not is the way to go. Dan Bull, old Papa Roach, Beastie Boys, Aesop Rock - lov 'em or hate 'em, at least they weren't being something they're not.
The anomaly here would be Snow - he's a white Canadian, but he grew up around Jamaican immigrants in housing projects, so the whole Jamaican rap is not part of his heritage, but it is part of his upbringing.
I appreciate you bringing up the "anomaly" here because you're absolutely right but like Snow there are white rappers who's upbringing is more akin to that of the black experience so to call them fake would be unjust. Real recognise real is still alive and true.
@Jeremy Backman Audiences were never part of the conversation. Background was. Vanilla Ice grew up in Dallas and Miami, not a poor neighborhood around black kids, his black-talking persona was fake. He himself later in life said it was stupid and apologized for it, there's a video - look it up.
What's sad is that the last thing isn't true any more. Post malone doesn't love hip hop. He didn't even do it for that long. He became famous soon after he started rapping. All his tattoos are rock singers.
Post Malone is not a rapper. He never was. He's more of a pop star than anything really.
@@CharlieA24 his first hit single white Iverson is clearly HEAVILY trap influenced.
@@TheOnlyBliss But he doesn't rap in that song AT ALL.
Post is a culture vulture. He doesn't like or respect Hip Hop, or our people for that matter. His stance on BLM speaks volumes.
Aesop n Eyedea are on my top 3 of all time. The most slept on.
@SCP-939 have u listened to any of his albums?
@@KDkorMEvol2 I mean he probly did if loves his stuff
@@ekay4495 in order to have an opinion on an artist you need to listen to at least one full album, thats how i see it.
Aesop got so many diffrent albums im sure evrey rap fan could appreciate some of his work, he puts a lot into it.
This was a very good convo. As an artist in a group from that era, I worked with a white rapper, Prozack and a black rapper, Marc Stretch. There was this thing also with the white producer. I made a song for Rasco, and he couldn't believe "Keithy" made that? PB Wolf was like, nah Keith makes dope beats. And that's how I got to do the song What It's All About with Rasco. At first, and even Rasco acknowledged it to me last year, he was like, "I didn't think you'd have any hot beats but I was wrong" 😂
The hell is she talking about? “they can just go walk into a corporate office”
you didn't know? I didn't even have to go to school.. i just walked in and asked for my assignment, told them the whites had sent me. Pretty standard.
It's much easier to get hired as an incompetent white person, than a normal black person, and I can confirm this from my company, you gotta work twice as hard.
Trey Buechler lmao
Victims of their own insecurities.
Gonna go off on a limb here an guess she was being hyperbolic..
Murs and Kwe with a legitimately introspective talk about the industry. Expect nothing less but still really astute.
MURS: " but up to now - you only had 3rd bass!" - knowledge every time.
Im glad el is finally getting the respect he deserves. True Hip hop Veteran.
El-P always got respect. Rawkus was a MOVEMENT in the late 90's and his group Company Flow kicked that off. That was how a lot of people even first heard of Talib Kweli. Plus, his label Def Jux was one of the biggest indie hip hop labels in the 2000's. El-P is just appreciated by a different audience now ever since RTJ.
...but in the broader sense, yeah, I still think he's grossly underrated and under many's radar.
These episodes are the best.. I need to see this full episode...
El Producto is one of the GOATS on the mic and the board. Huge influence on those of us that used to dabble. I blew an opportunity to be on Co Flow’s street team back in the day. Huge mistake. Lol
And, El-P’s favorite flavor of gas is mustard.
Now thats true "Patriotism" my friend lol
We need that Run the Jewels + Black Star collab album
Kweli at his finest with this podcast. Bigups, definitely a great interviewer and living historian of the culture in all its forms.
Can't believe I just saw this clip. Fantastic Damage, I'll Sleep When Your Dead, Impossible Kid, Labor Days and more stay in my rotation of favorite albums. Early El-P and Aes are super underrated.
I met Murs in San Diego in 1996 gave him Vitals signs tape.
Thomas Holmes shouts to the 619/760
Really awesome seeing someone give El-P some credit. Run The Jewels is the top 🎩 of the game 🎯
👑🤛
Murs and El-P some of my favorite rappers/producers to ever do it!
Our golden era of hip hop is the best, 90's kids forever, word up.
Would have been funny if they were listing dope white rappers an Murs had Diabolic on his list.
4:48 "They could just walk through a corporate office." That's not at all how that works...
Right! False Statements like that is what fuels the rasicim hate we have in America that should exist
I'm white and they would laugh my ass out that office...
Walk on to a jobsite and break your back for 10 or 12 hours is more like it ....come it a try ....easy money 🤣🤣🤣
@@bluecollarbud6345 Right, I've worked in labor for 6 years, moving produce, firewood operation... definitely wasn't the same as, "walking into a corporate office" like she says. Just goes to show the lack of respect people have for the effort it takes to get a well-paying, stable job.
Point is that it's easier for wbite people in a corporate setting than it is for black people. There is nothing in that statement that can be effectively debated.
I'm black... and the amount of racism in this video is astounding..
This woman really said that a white person can just work their way up the corporate ladder like it's nothing.... And rap is one of the only things they have to work hard on.. lol
"... Before Eminem the highest selling rapper was Vanilla ice, beastie boys..." No, it was MC Hammer... And since then a lot of black people have been at the top of the charts.. not sure what his point is..
...and Eminem and Macklemore benefited from being white but they also benefited from making original music.. they made rap that didn't sound like the rap that was being made by black hip hop artists.. you could say the same about beastie boys..
...anyways... I just think we need to call out ignorant speech wherever it is regardless of the colour of the person speaking it.
First of all idk what your race has to do with anything, and there's no racism in this video at all. No one ever said white people can easily climb the corporate ladder, she said being a white man working in a corporate setting is easier than a white man being a rapper which is 100% true. And Vanilla ice easily outsold MC hammer and before that it was the Beastie boys. His point was that for some reason white rappers once they take off they do incredibly, he didn't take anything away from their struggle or blame them for anything but looking at the sales he's right. Nothing you mentioned was racist, get your head out of your ass
@@dingus5285 first of all, why you so mad? Lol.. anyways, she says, "... That's one of the only things that white people are not dominant on and they have to work extra hard to be considered good.." there's layers of racism in this one quote. I could break it down for you if you need me to.
Ron Austin please do, in some industries white people are more dominant in and some things black people are, that's just a fact. The number of popular black rappers to the number of popular white rappers is proof of that alone. She never said white people can't rap or anything like that
@@dingus5285 i think her statement was corny cause its a false dichotomy. Obviously white privilege is undeniable but it wasnt the case that white audiences were throwing pennies at Hootie and the Blowfish or Seale in the 90s-00s 😂 I dont really care either way its just she tried to justify whack shit that didnt really need to be justified lol it was a dumb thing to say really
I'm white and from the south Louisiana 337, BR, N.O.,, and personally I feel more comfortable in hip hop than in "corporate America". And y'all right we gotta come with it and extra to even get a nod. But hey that's hip hop either you got it or you don't no matter what race. Big props to y'all for understanding that we not all culture vultures. I got culture appreciation and pay homage to the masters of the mic that got me hooked on this art. murs, you kill it with tech EVERY time, love your open mind and acceptance
Sis came in and was like “hold up”. Straight queen.
This interviews gone be fire
2:00 Lil Pump is latino; Mex mom, Cuban pops.
Still white
Smiled when Talib mentioned he opened up for Macklemore because I was at one of those shows in Boston. Gave me a flashback
El-P has had one of the most interesting rap careers of any artist. Started out as Backpacker underground royalty ended up as a major main stream success.
Murs The Legend🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Watching this interview is good for me. I was listening to RTJ4 and wondering how good of a rapper is EL P really. We all know that killer mike is almost God level MC but El P flow is crazy. His voice isn’t as demonstrative as killer Mike’s but his word play and lyrics are just as intricate. Big ups to El P
South Africa, we are here!!!! Kweli, Murs all OF YALL WE LOVE YOU! TIME FLIES, WE ONLY GETTIN OLD
You can tell Murs is such a wise guy. He’s not about that race pity shit. He understands the struggle is different, with its own challenges, depending on where you’re from and how you look. Love his vibe.
yeah that chick kept talking about victimhood bs, she's trying to push a false narrative.
What the fuck race pit shit mean
@@euphoricmonk She was adding nothing to the conversation, just cut her opinions out and nothing is lost.
8 steps to perfection company flow is B side Stretch and Bob classic...
El-P's 'Truancy' from his Fantastic Damage album is one of the best coming-of-age in hiphop song ever. Really an AMAZING song. El-P is fucking official.
Murs and Kweli both official as fuck, too! Didnt want to imply they weren't. Been rocking Talib since The Manifesto and Murs since his 3:16 Project with 9th(1st one).
white boy, south vallejo ca, born raised, and prolly b right here til they bury me here. grew up in in the hip hop world as a guest, watched many of my peers have successful careers. Most black of course but the few white boys i know who get respect for thier music, are some of the coldest when it comes down to off the top flows. I wasnt expecting to hear this much love from murs and talib about white ppl inm hip hop given the current state of the world etc.. but that perspective they shared was refreshing. my new fav podcast.
I have always idolized and respected EL-P. I still do. I’ve followed his entire career, from Official Records all the way to RTJ. I remember chilling on Ozone Music forums and we used to build with the entire crew before there was even a DefJux. El-P was so humble and kind to his fan base back then. Even though I still love his work, he did change over the years as a person as he started to gain fame, wish he was the same EL-P from the past, but I get it. I still consider him a pioneer and a legend. Someone who I will always idolize. Great interview.
This whole interview was dope.
Always love Murs as a person. And he steadily makes good tracks.
"Yeah, I opened for Macklemore for a year" Damn! Smart convo.
I honestly didn’t know EL-P until Run the Jewels. Now he’s one of my favorite MC’s.
Whatever The most high look like, I gotta hunch that it looks something like Murs. He just look extraterrestrial. Lol.
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u read my mind
Dreadlocks getting to Mr. Lif's level
Suleiman Mustafa facts them shits are brolic it like he’s wearing a hoodie or a juggernaut helmet made of hair. I remember he cut them off once
Mr lifs dreads in early 2000s was crazy them shits was mad thick like tree branches it was true Rastafarian style I heard him say once that it was putting stress on his back and neck .
@@vedametatron I remember an old lif song that went somethinhg like "I'm the only brother with dreads and an afro" lol
There's so many haters accusing white rappers of appropriation, and on the other hand fanboys who treat eminem like a god. It's refreshing to listen to these guys being totally objective about white rappers, their struggles and benefits.
heavy hitters all around. respect. no bests, just greats! Grateful for this podcast.
It isn't racial. It's economic. I'm a poor, white boy and nothing has been easy for me. It's a big club, and we ain't in it.
Cage Kennylzzzz!!!!
Alex the Worm King👍
He was good for a few years, he’s been TRASH for a decade now..... try again..
@@baythagod Copywrite? Ill Bill? Justin Beiber?
el-p deserves so much props man, still remember when i found out he produced the cold vein, maaaaaaan
Def Jux gave me one of my favorite rap albums ever...The Cold Vein
I say it all the time El P is the most slept on lyricist in the game right now.
Top 5 white rappers of ALL time. In no particular order:
- El-P
-Eyedea
-Eminem
-Aesop Rock
-Weird Al Yankovich
Debate over.
-slug
-aesop
-el-p
-weird al
-jim mcmahon
-Doseone
-Doseone
-Doseone
-Doseone
-Doseone
weird al is dope, you ever hear Amish Paradise?
As a white rapper myself, the struggle is definitely still real. You will almost always come second in a lot of situations and be looked at as a joke sometimes. A lot of people are still not comfortable with white faces in black spaces, but you just have to be authentic and respectful. I’ve made some amazing relationships that make us all stronger. I’m eternally grateful to have a space to express myself and share my art. Through that, I am also able to help open the minds of my fellow whites to the plight and struggles of black and brown people globally. You always need to be a steward of the culture. That’s what’s most important.
EL-P got sleept on man. I am glad he has gotten some more attention with RTJ. He is insanely good as a producer and sleept on as a rapper. Highly underrated.