I used to be friends with someone who worked as a trainer. she proclaimed to love the whales but was quite happy to defend the treatment of them and even spit out the lies they tell the public as fact. That tells me what kind of company they are. I think once you know something about orcas and marine mammals, how a lot of them have bonds with their families, that orcas in particular age at a similar rate to us, have the same family bonds (like mother and child are just as bonded) and have culture and intelligence ... that's when you realize how cruel and disgusting this all is.
@@ziggygunz2447 lol yeah I saw that one. or the dolphins who like to get high from playing with puffer fish. there's a pod of rissos dolphins that has been found with an albino one in the pod and some of the watchers think the albino one is blind because the other members of the pod act in a very different way towards it and are constantly guiding it around. blindness and albinoism do go hand in hand. but if so, that would mean they are caring for their there less abled family members, which has only ever been seen in humans till now. not to mention they grieve the loss of their loved ones and other such displays of complex emotions. how anyone can claim them to be just animals astounds me.
Not to mention trainers often know nothing about marine biology let alone any expert information on orcas. The ppl who actually study these animals do not support these jails.
As a veterinarian I dated another vet student that worked at Sea World for a year. She'd have nightmares about it years later. Did you know the depressed whales are literally fed bucket fulls of prozac? One that refused to perform because her baby was taken from her cried non-stop, day and night for weeks. The decision was finally made to stop feeding her to see if that would get her to stop. My girlfriend and a fellow employee were fired for sneaking her food! She was haunted by that mother whale's screams for years. She was never aware they were filming Blackfish or she would have told the story. Seaworld, just don't go.
I find that hard to believe. If you said this happened at places like Miami Seaquarium or Marineland Ontario, I would believe it, but no matter how much you hate SeaWorld, they just don't do that kind of crap in modern days.
I saw Blackfish more than once but I feel the exact same way about the movie The Cove. I saw The Cove first so by the time I saw Blackfish at Sundance I was already mad and much more educated and I knew what I was getting myself into. it has been years and I still can’t watch The Cove. I donated to the Rick Barry foundation regularly to show my support for their continued efforts to save as much marine life as possible but watching/listening to those dolphins scream as they were trapped and slaughtered is something I will NEVER forget!
I feel exactly how you described , I actually saw it afew times but no more . The deaths etc could of been prevented , I also feel bad and sorry for the Whales even "Tilikum" who is the main focus of the Documentary.
one thing i find quite funny about post-blackfish seaworld is how they tried to cover up the fact they exploited multiple legal loopholes in 2010 in order to get a lost orca calf from denmark into their posession after claiming she was deaf (she wasn't) and that she was too unhealthy to be rehabilitated (she was perfectly fine). And the fact they then used the same orca in 2017 to circumvent the breeding ban they made in 2016. Which lead to them, panicking, selling the orcas they had at loro parque and attempting to create a pretty rediculous cover up story as to why it happened.
There was a study done in 2013 that tested the click responses of the orcas at loro parque. The study determined that morgan tended to respond less than the other orcas. This is where the claim she is deaf originates from. The study concluded that she *might* have a hearing defecit because her waveforms didn't match up to the other orcas they tested. However, they were unable to conclude anything else. Furthermore, Morgan also she repeats calls and sounds heard in Norwegian orca populations which shows she must have been able to hear them. She was also recorded mimicing sounds from other animals 5 months after she arived at loro parque (this is backed up by the vetenarian incharge of their orcas) further emphasising the fact she could hear. So either she suddenly went deaf in 2012 or she has a mild hearing deficit as the 2013 study suggested which is very different to what loro parque is claiming.
Ive been to SeaWorld twice....pre-Blackfish. I felt totally horrible because naive me figured they must have humongous, elaborate "homes" for the orca's when they weren't performing. Like there was some huge part of the park we dont see where these creatures must be living their best life!!! For me, the movie was everything because I would never go back!
lots of us did--we were stupid, and they preyed on that--when the shit hit the fan, they lost billions but no one was ever charged for what they did capturing them 50 years ago--in fact, i just saw 1 guy who said "Its the best thing i ever did--mademe millions"
I’m not sure we would’ve learned as much about orcas and people would not be so familiar with them, If not for Seaworld. But once they had to start feeding them, Prozac and making up lies about their dorsal fins drooping they should’ve made changes. Then when blackfish came out, they should have completely re-organized their company and program.
Blackfish was such a big deal when it came out that my elementary school actually showed the film to everyone during an assembly. i don't remember a whole lot about that day, but i'm fairly certain their motive was to encourage kids to dissuade their parents from buying SeaWorld tickets and supporting the organization. i definitely think it worked, for as messed up as it was to do that.
@@MomMom4Cubs yeah, it was kinda fucked, but i don’t remember if we even finished the film. the details are very fuzzy by this point. there were probably permission slips that our parents had to sign now that i think about it
@@MomMom4Cubs i agree, it was a bit of an unhinged plan to go through with, but its in the past now and i'm sure they haven't tried to do something similar since then. if it makes you feel any better, the experience didn't have any kind of severe negative impact on me
I fail to see how that's worse than SW giving discounted tickets to school children to brainwash them into thinking animal abuse is cool. Last time I went the park was full of local school kids on a field trip. There were also kids who witnessed Tilikum killing his trainer that are likely scarred for life.
When I was younger, I always saw those commercials for Marineland (Canadian SeaWorld I guess), and I wanted to go see the Orcas. When Free Willy came out, I wanted to go even more, but I never did (because of money). But once I saw Blackfish, I said I would NEVER go to Marineland.
Marine land was 10x worse. Smaller tanks, neglect, the last orca was on its own for years just to die alone. It’s sad asf. Marine land was a massive fuck up. The owner was cheap, the park is just decaying, they need to clean sweep it and give it to someone who can do something cool with the property. Because the land is massive, and has a ton of potential. And give the remaining marine life to a qualified experts.
Property doesn't have rights. Those who own animals own them like slaves, they are bought, own them legally, and can exploit them the way they want. These whales may be intelligent, they are still the park's property
How come it's illegal to kick a dog (a law I agree with, obviously!) yet other animals are tortured regularly for money? It's messed up and many of the younger generations are seeing that it's wrong, and choosing not to participate.
@@valmacclinchya dog is still property in the eyes of the law. All animals are property since they are sold and traded solely for human use. These laws exist purely to make sure the animals remain healthy for human use. A healthy cow is better purely because it sells better. Healthy pets bring in more money.
Omg, me too! My husband and I actually own a small company and we repair boats for a living. So, we inevitably see some dumb boat owners, but this guy had me just dying! 😂
That's depressing to hear they're still doing that shit to other marine animals. Also, frustrating to hear Busch Gardens has that much sway still with legislation
Don't care didn't ask I will continue to go to Seaworld/Busch Gardens even though I can see wild dolpins/Have seen wild dolphins just because I feel like it. Go complain about the fairs that keep gold fish in glass bowls or aquariums, start to take down smaller businesses then make your way up to Seaworld when you have some experience.😘
Considering dolphins travel 80mi per day in the wild, orcas travel 40, and belugas migrate 1500mi every year, no enclosure is big enough for these animals. Adding this to their intelligence means it is always unethical to keep them in captivity. Unfortunately, this is a for-profit world and Sea World won't stop until they're completely defunded. A good majority of people are ignorant, and don't care if their animals are treated well because they get to see them up close. Great video, I'm glad to see that people still care about this topic enough to educate the public.
Maybe some of the people visiting are the same type that will have a dog kept in a run for its whole life with very little real interaction from its ‘family’.
Hamsters have territories of up to 8 miles in the wild. Outdoor cats will sustain territories of up to 15 miles on average and some ferals in Australia have been documented roaming for even more, upwards of 30. Are you not aware of the fact that animals like roaming, regardless of whether they’re domesticated, wild, smart, or stupid? If you like science, it’s a well studied fact that animals roam out of necessity for survival, needing resources and to locate mates. They are not wandering aimlessly to explore the ocean or forests, they need to find food and mates to survive. This is a large part in why they do not go insane in captivity when cared for correctly despite their enclosures or cages being 1/1000th of the space they would normally have. It applies for orcas as well. The reason orcas do not thrive in captivity is not because their tanks aren’t ocean sized, but because their tanks are small and barren, without any complexity to them,
I remember watching Defunctland's video on the Ocean Explorer and how Sea World's funds were originally gonna be used to expand the tanks even more but we're wasted on their crappy dark ride.
This is an example of the corporate culture envisioned by Ayn Rand. One of her disciples, Milton Friedman, carried her thinking into the US Congress and the White House and into the policies of both political parties. The election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 was the crowning victory, and an ideology based on the primacy of shareholder value became a bipartisan guiding light. Sea World is governed by people who's actions reflect that guiding light. We have come to the point where these corporate giants have the power to influence and often determine public policy. It's the power of wealth, a power that corrupts absolutely.
What on earth are you talking about? AYN rand? FRIEDMAN? CORPORATE CULTURE? This is about the ethics of animal treatment and whether orcas should be held in captivity. Political and economic systems have nothing to do with it. Sea World could exist in a communist country or even in a monarchy.
A thing I wanna add relating to your points about the ethics of aquariums. With exceptions to marine mammals, marine animals give 0 shites about being "kidnapped from the wild". Most aquariums just aren't focused on marine mammals at all. Heck, the one I went too as a child had no mammals. The primary exhibits at most aquariums are fish and invertebrates, neither of which give a damn about captivity, as long as their needs are tended to. SeaWorld is an exception, because without their gimmick of having whales, they're just a mediocre theme park.
Love the username haha, but i just wanted to add that while that’s true, many large (emphasis on large) aquariums i’ve been to had a few exhibits with otters, penguins, birds that swim (? Like the ones that hunt under water idk the name) and worst of all, some sort of dolphin (orcas, belugas, dolphins). Personally, while those animals are cute and all, i’d rather see them in their natural habitat, and see more fish in their place… OH ALSO SUPER AGREE on that last point. They’re a subpar theme park and a shitty “aquarium”
@otterhands8800 Fair enough, I've never been a patron of the larger, globally renowned type aquariums. I can only speak personally about the locations near me. My point is mainly that, at the end of the day, legitimate aquariums can exist without showey mammal exhibits, which SeaWorld definitely cannot.
@@otterhands8800 the thing with those ones is that they can be ethically kept with the exception of large porpuses like orcas (porpuses= orcas, belugas, dolphins) as long as ones like belugas and dolphins arent used for shows and are kept in large enough tanks with enrichment they can be kept properly instead of being used as attractions
@@dinolover8183 yeah there are several aquariums that fit your description, and those ones have other exhibits other than the marine mammals that usually attract more of an audience.
I went to SeaWorld and actually saw an orca show. I don't think it was Tillikum but it was a year before Dawn Brancheau's death. I remember they had an underground section where you could see the whale underwater. It swam right up to us and I put my hand up to the glass. It bumped it's nose where my hand was, you could just see the intelligence in these creatures eyes. I have an orca plush I still keep with me. When blackfish came out I thought about the whale in the tank and wondered if it was still going to suffer.
I know that sort of thing would prey on my mind at any age, and you didn’t say how old you were when you visited. We can hope that life got better for the orca later, even though we both know that probably didn’t happen. 💔
Which SeaWorld did you go btw if you don’t mind me asking? Because Tilikum was in the Orlando resort. I went to SeaWorld San Diego couple of times before.
@@Alucard-lz2hb I went to the Orlando SeaWorld, my grandmother lives in Florida so I went there a lot. My family had a pass so I did both the underwater and up close experiences. I actually didn't know Tillikum was at the resort I'd been going to. I'm pretty sure I didn't see him, but I might've.
@@MariAnimates you probably did see him then since he was still alive back then (he died in 2017). I never saw him since I only went to the San Diego resort. That said, I do not know much of the difference between male and female orcas.
Seaworld made every other aquarium have such a bad reputations. A lot of aquariums do so much for marine conservation and rehabilitation. Before you go to an aquarium you can do some quick research to see if they are AZA accredited and that basically means they’re approved to care for animals and they meet all the high standards for care. The aquarium I work at has an amazing rescue and conservation programs and we also do a lot of research and help out with the endangered species with species survival plans to help keep animals like penguins from going extinct.
Wild animals should not be kept in tanks. All aquariums are unethical because they use living beings for entertainment. The conversation that they do does not erase the exploitation of those businesses. It's just like oil companies saying they care about the environment because they donate a small percentage of their earnings to a questionable charity that claims to help the environment. Stop supporting animal exploitation businesses and instead support true conversation efforts from organizations that don't exploit animals at all.
@@Tracydot3Off the top of my head, Florida Aquarium is a major hub for coral reef restoration, which is especially important right now in Florida since they just had a MASSIVE bleach. Monterey Bay Aquarium leads the world in deep sea research. New England Aquarium is one of the most prominent figures in right whale conservation. Alaska SeaLife Center has an enormous rescue and release program for animals throughout the state. Clearwater Marine Aquarium consists exclusively of rescued animals. There’s definitely good ones out there.
@@Katesaprincess Keep in mind the AZA was involved in that beluga import controversy in 2012-2015 and fully supported Georgia Aquarium’s and SeaWorld’s efforts to capture 18 whales from an endangered stock in Russia, and they turned a blind eye to the private sale of tiger cubs by Columbus Zoo. I’d say their standards are better than a road-side zoo, no doubt, but they certainly aren’t a golden seal of perfection when it comes to animal welfare.
Thank you for covering this because it’s not spoken about enough. I vaguely remember hearing that Sea World ended up spending their budget to expand their Orca tanks on a new rollercoaster instead. Sea World does not care to any extent and it’s a company I refuse to support at this point. Their actions are disgusting and it’s heartbreaking that these animals are suffering. I love aquariums but animals this big shouldn’t be in captivity. (an exception for animals hurt or endangered but they need proper care, tanks that meet all their needs and then some) I hope one day Sea World goes under so they can stop damaging the lives of these animals.
I agree almost entirely with what you said, i would like to point out though, there are some major issues with the coastal sanctuary projects, mostly that "fencing in" that much coastal space COULD create major problems for native species, particularity migratory species, of marine life. Ive actually done quite a bit of study and research about this, i work in environmental services and have a degree in fisheries managment from Auburn University. I do not work at a for profit business, and my job revolves around studying snd managing the possible environmental impact on aquatic ecosystems by man made projects. I have not worked around thr sanctuaries directly, as om primarily southeast based, but i did study them and their possible impacts. Again, not saying they are bad, just pointing out that we do not know their full environmental impact, and should be cautious when directly altering a living ecosystem.
not to mention, even as a marine land director has admitted, these animals are pumped full of drugs & antibiotics (he self admittedly stated he himself had drugged the orcas. that is fact. there is no debate that these orcas contain vicious amounts of man made substances & drugs that native wild marine life have very likely never been exposed too & especially not an animal infected so heavily), so releasing them into the natural environment would not only cause an extreme shock & downgrade to their system, it would also do the same to the natural ecosystem they are kicked out into. not to mention, most of these animals are captive born. all they know are these concrete walls. it would be cruel in a way to turn them out into an environment they’ve never been & never knew while physically fighting to adapt to a totally different environment. not to mention the extreme pressure this would put on the environment even if we were to choose 1 island or coastal area to send every captive whale & dolphin in the world to, there is just too high demand & too low of supply on the space necessary to achieve even the disaster this would likely be. the best solution i see is to clear out&dig up a few of their grand stands & 20,000 parking lots & actually add sufficient space of concrete lakes to put these animals into, & to start actually doing something about the social hierarchies & social mental emotional and physical needs of these animals. why should these places have “lakes” and “ponds” for land scaping & public view & human enjoyment when we could achieve both those qualities & a significant increase in quality of life for the rest of these animals that we put on this earth against the will of the natural world? why cant we spare some parking lots so these animals aren’t killing themselves, each other, & their carers out of pure boredom & misery?
oh & i didn’t even mention how sickly these animals are from swimming in a little pool of the same bacteria & contaminated in all sorts of ways from foreign bacteria filled water, & beating the life out of themselves & each other. the poor things would swim themselves into a never ending sleep if we just turned them out to a sea pen, even if we somehow managed to find a slow enough acclimation process that is healthy & humane. at the end of the day this would also be a lot of $$ and there’s only so much to drain from the piggy banks of the CEOs so the question is where does the rest of it come from to complete something feasible for everyone like this?
I recently wrote a 4 page essay for my linguistics class in which I argue that certain cetaceans (orcas and sperm whales) use language and Blackfish provided a lot of great information Sea World should be shut down at least
@@maddieb.4282 got a 10/10 score and everything. Not that it's any of your business, but the info used on my essay came from multiple credible sources, it was not like I only watched Blackfish to study. Despite being biased, the documentary did inspire me to take a deeper look on orcas (the essay was focused on sperm whales at first) and the neuroscientific research about the unique structures found in cetaceans' brain anatomy.
i wouldn’t be citing blackfish as a reference, though. while i wholeheartedly agree with the points they argue in the documentary, it was ultimately extremely biased and they exaggerated many of their claims.
Regarding the aquarium issue, I think it depends on the species Most animals are only going to care if the place they live provides for their needs, is safe from predators and doesn't make them feel uncomfortable. Most creature will live long happy lives in captivity so long as their oners give a sh%t about them But with an extremely intelligent animal ore one with special need the ethical captivity becomes *a lot* harder
Definitely. It's also important to take into account how an animal naturally moves in it's environment. An orca that migrates literally all over the world will suffer in any enclosure that can't provide that, a starfish that stays on one small patch of reef it's while life probably won't mind a safe tank and regular food
My parents took me to SeaWorld when I was around 9. We went to see an orca show and I felt really depressed the whole time. I remembered seeing an orca with a large cut on the news months before, and something about how a trainer was killed and I kept thinking about that during the show. I think I felt that the orcas were being exploited in some way, doing flips in that small tank for our entertainment.
Same. I went in 2011 I think when I was 12 and my parents told me about the passing from the trainers. That’s why they don’t go into the waters anymore. I didn’t get much from the show because I’m German and my English back then was just basic understanding. Our whole holiday in Miami was just overwhelming. But just 2 years later with better English, more growing I talked with my parents about it how had it is. And they total share my feelings. We just went to see it. But I’m glad we will never do it again. I’m very happy they share the same thoughts as me… But remembering back it was weird knowing someone died and I’m sitting there with my family… The dolphin show was cool. But I wouldn’t want to see stuff like that again. Sadly I’m a kindergarten teacher and we go to zoos on trips… not often but 2 times a year 😭
I went to a sea lion show at an aquarium recently and couldn't help but notice how fixated the sea lions were on the food. Obviously it was a reward system, as in do a trick get a fish, but I couldn't help but wonder if they restricted the animal's food at all just to get them to do the tricks and obey on command. Who knows, maybe the sea lions are well fed and happy, but it made me wish I could be a fly on the wall when the patrons weren't around just to see how they're treated.
Fun fact: originally they were going to film the movie at SeaWorld and use their animals but SeaWorld refused unless Warner Bros changes the ending to be more realistic and suggested having Willy going to a better aquarium maybe even SeaWorld.
Keeping cetaceans in captivity is a truly awful thing to do. They are extremely social, extremely intelligent and built to roam hundreds of thousands of square miles of open ocean. Some things can be kept in captivity perfectly fine, but there is no manmade structure in existence large enough to house a single small pod of dolphins in a reasonable facsimile of their environment. It's worse than keeping a dog in a cage. They speak to each other. They have accents and dialects and names and teach their children complex skills and strategies. Keeping them in a pool to perform tricks for your entertainment is just Wrong.
I didn't hear a single word in the middle portion of the video, I was too focused on and distracted by the random clip of that dude almost sinking his boat. Wtf was that lmao
It would be nice if the government could seize Seaworld as a company and declare it as a nationalized Ocean protection park or whatever. Basically keep everything the same but remove the profit incentive and be more humane to the animals while increasing their efforts to educate, protect, and serve the ocean and it's creatures.
@@maddieb.4282 I could not care less about the "rights" of "private assets". Companies aren't people, they ain't got no rights to speak of. Anyways, as someone already pointed out; this government doesn't care at all and won't do anything to help people let alone animals.
I never understood the appeal of places like SeaWorld or the circus. As neat as it can be to see the tricks of the animals, it always feels haunting to control innocent creatures for material gain. We look back on the horrors done to exotic animals in Rome but pretend that these shows are humane.
Aquariums are good, ethical facilities. Unless it’s Seaworld. They do it for profit. The actual aquariums that focus on conservation and teaching are amazing. If you wanna argue with that…you can only argue if you do more to help the ocean than they do
Just because abuse doesn’t happen from trainers doesn’t mean that the animals won’t turn on eachother because of their cruel conditions, if the cruel practice doesn’t end up killing the animal the other animals will because there is no “natural” death in these tanks. Orcas, Beluga Whales, Dolphins, ect ect can become incredibly violent and no one has an escape from the conflict because of the tiny tanks nor can trainer directly jump in and help so even if they’re “good” trainers there will forever be bloodshed in their tanks because they’re trying to profit from wild animals while driving them crazy :(
Seeing this just now as the orca Lolita, who was set to be released this year, has sadly died of kidney failure after spending 53 captivity. I’m glad she’s finally free of suffering. Her release was halted and stalled for years by the Aquarium. She was retired this year prior to release, but soon after suspiciously developed renal failure and abruptly died in her tiny tank.
considering how expensive it would have been to free Lolita, I definitely think they either flat out murdered her or let her die slowly without adecuate treatment
seaworld is so cruel and disgusting, they made her die slowly by feeding her poisonous food, vile, just vile, i have no words for how vile and cruel some humans are.
I can't stress enough how pissed off I am at company not doing anything because "it doesn't affect them much". Think about how hollow of a moral code these individuals live by. The shallowness of people running after profit like it fundamentaly matters.
learning about the corporate side of seaworld, i can confirm they're still terrible. not only mistreating orcas, but not paying rent to san diego and liscencing fees to sesame workshop. they said they were supposed to phase out orca shows, but went back on that route back in 2020 (despite what they want you to think, it's still a show, i skipped recording these animal expiriences for a reason when i went to seaworld for my travel channel). they also recently got called out for high chlorine levels in their tanks. i'd rather them remove the animals entirely from the park than try to paint their "conservation" in a good light.
When there is a wildlife crisis on or off the coast of San Diego, Sea World has always been the institution locals have contacted due to their decades of work. They would do it without a fee
I'm no expert on cetacean body language. But I am a living being. And as such, I will say this : I didn't even watch this video, but the floppy dorsal fin on this magnificent orca we can see in the thumbnail, says it all.
The dorsal fin is made out of cartillage. It has no bone or muscle to keep it upright. Orcas in human care spend a lot of time near the surface to interact with the behaviourists etc. Gravity then just does it's thing and pulls the fin down. The function of the dorsal fin is to provide stability and balance in strong currents. This make the fin kind of useless for orcas in human care. We can see similar things in certain wild orca populations that spend most of their time near the surface to hunt. It has nothing to do with the physical or emotional wellbeing of the animal.
@@blabbergasted-nx9hu The Orcas I've seen in their natural habitat tend to have upright dorsal fins. And even with everything you've just described, I don't see why a floppy dorsal fin would have ''nothing to do with the physical or emotional well-being of the animal''. If they don't spend any time in their natural currents, and are stuck in a tank, that's not good for them, obviously.
@@rigelb9025 As I said, certain pods that hunt near the surface (like some pods near New Zealand) do have collapsed dorsal fins. Most orca pods dive deeper to hunt (aka survive). Why is it 'obviously not good for them' to not have to worry about currents? Why do anticaps act like the wild is some kind of incredible paradise? The animals are under constant threat of nature and humans, they need to swim enormous distances to find food to survive, which is becomign harder and harder due to pollution and overfishing. Compared to that, the orcas in human care are like pampered puppies. Nature kills, it's not a paradise.
@@blabbergasted-nx9hu Hmmm, ok. That would be like the equivalent of saying 'I can't believe some people would actually rather walk free than be in prison. I mean - the free food, the shelter, the predictable schedule, no need to walk long distances to get anywhere.. sounds so much better than having to fend for oneself in this dangerous world''.
im a marine bio student and my mom keeps suggesting i work at sea world for moral reasons, that us one of the jobs i just cannot bring myself to do she suggested maybe i could work my way up and make things better for the animals but theres no way i could get that kind of power in a corporate themepark that doesnt really care about their animals
When I first watched Blackfish I was utterly dismayed at how these humans could enslave such intelligent and majestic creatures and confine them to a life of boredom and performing for the entertainment of other humans. I was livid. I then stumbled upon Dominion (2018) which showcased standard farming practices in Australia and I was again left utterly dismayed. Except, this time, I was culpable. I was the one with blood on my hands through creating demand for such farming practices via my consumption of animal products in the name of my taste pleasure, convenience and culture. I am now vegan and try my best to boycott all products and merchants of animal abuse.
Hey there, vegetarian here for nearly 20 years. Luckily, I can buy eggs from my neighbors' chickens, who're quite content, and free range milk. the ingredients in fertilizer are often dead animals: K (Potassium), N (Nitrogen), and Ca. Things have to die for me to live, but they shouldn't suffer. I just can't eat meat, it disgusts me at this point. But I worry about what fertilizes my greens.
@@pickles3128 Hey there, well done on being vegetarian for 20 years and your concern for animal welfare. Unlike vegetarianism, veganism is more than just a diet and is primarily an ethical stance against animal exploitation as far as is practicable and possible. Vegans recognise the rights of non-human animals to be free from exploitation, enslavement, torture and slaughter. Generally some combination of these rights violations are inherent in animal agriculture, including backyard chickens and "free-range milk", especially when there's a profit motive. Farmed chickens don't come from nowhere, they must be bred into existence. Unfortunately 50 percent are born male, and as your neighbour is only concerned for selling their female chicken's ovulations, there's a high likelihood the excess roosters are generally slaughtered for meat. In the industry the male chicks are macerated on their first day of life as they're unprofitable and go into the fertilizer you speak of - I can recommend avoiding consuming egg containing products made outside your home. As for milk, cows don't produce milk for humans. Like every other mammal, cows produce milk to nurse their babies. Thus in order to produce milk for humans consumption cows are made to be pregnant via artificial insemination and the calves are separated from their mothers so we can take their milk. The cows having mammalian maternal instincts run after their calves as they're hauled away and visibly mourn the loss of their baby. This cycle is continued with the cow being impregnated every year for 4 to 5 years. At this point their milk production declines and they're no longer profitable to be milked so are sent to the slaughterhouse. As with male chicks, male calves are shot on their first days of life or fattened up for 2 to 3 months to be slaughtered for veal. Unfortunately many vegetarians are blind to these practices, I certainly was for the 18 months I was vegetarian before stumbling upon the Dominion documentary. Unfortunately we live in a world where humans devalue non-human animals they exploit, and there's only so much one can possibly boycott, yet we must do what we can. If you can grow your own greens with plant-based compost, you should. If not, you should do what's possible.
Well, good job, you're destroying rainforests and letting vegan companies exploit their Minority workers now, Going vegan is not a good solution either and you should understand that not all farms are unethical. There are a lot of ethical farms out there that you should support instead of supporting big corporate ones, Animal products aren't the problem, People are the problem and how people use a business to profit.
I will never understand why so many people mistreat marine life and fish and people just think they have no feelings because they're fish. Fish can be really intelligent, and so can goldfish! Just a lot of people use fish for show and not as an actual pet or animal to show real affection to and to make sure they don't suffer
I used to dream about going to Seaworld when I was a kid, but my parents refused to take me. I am really glad they did'nt. Also, if anyone reading this is thinking about seeing Blackfish, its free on UA-cam, go watch it. It is one of the best best documentaries I've seen in recent memory. I will warn yall though, its very heartbreaking, I cried my eyes out after watching it due to all the terrible conditions these majestic creatures were forced into.
Blackfish is very hard for me to watch, but I think of it as my favorite documentary of all time ever since my first viewing of it. I've watched it twice, and have intended on doing so a third time. Hell, unrelated to this, but I also watched The Cove (The 2009 film) right after my first viewing of it and I recommend that too, tho it's also really hard to watch when it gets to THAT part. The people saying that Blackfish is bs only fell for the lies Seaworld spouted at them. Which is extremely frustrating, as I have no reason to not believe ex-staff pouring their hearts out about how SW abuses their animals as an animal lover, but to believe a megacorp who want nothing but money anyways. it makes no sense. I'm sticking to the sides of the ex-staff, at least THEY don't put the blame of the trainers deaths on said trainers that literally cannot defend themselves because they're fucking dead now. I'm still pissed about how they treated Dawn's passing, it's so gross.
Actually Dawn Brancheau’s Death + Blackfish= Death of Seaworld. Not sure if the claims in Blackfish are true but coupling that with the tragic death of a top trainer and Seaworld blaming her for negligence etc was a horrible PR nightmare for this company. Esp since OSHA. Fined them etc but if Blackfish came out by itself without the death of a top trainer then I don’t think the documentary would have had as much impact on the masses
Seaworld today is just another reminder of how unjust the world we live in is... Not only how the law allows such wicked industries to run but also how the majority of people are just brainless 😔
The omsi museum in Portland Oregon has an orca exhibit right now about orcas and orcas in captivity. It was actually very good!! Now this video popped up after going to the museum yesterday. Weeeird.
It's not complicated at all. As long as they still have orcas and other sea mammals in captivity, they are still bad. Just let them and all other mammals go.
11:05 "...you could certainly make the argument that there's no way to do that ethically at all" you say that like as if I can manage anything besides crawling to and from work
8:35 Ethics and ethical dilemmas are not subjective - Truth, right and wrong, are knowable through reason. What the video creator may have meant to say is that at first glance, we may disagree on if Zoos and Aquariums are evil and the debate is, currently, ongoing.
Subjectivity in ethics only ever seems to get a mention when non-human animals are discussed. People will excuse the worst, most barbaric practices known to man so long as the victims aren't human.
I used to go to SeaWorld as a kid. I loved it there because I hated rollercoasters and I was too afraid of mascots at Disney or Universal. I would see the animals at SeaWorld and loved them. I wasn't educated back then about their horrible culture. I didn't know their abusive nature. It wasn't until I started getting into marine biology a few years ago that I realized that the company is terrible. When I did start liking rollercoasters I started going to Busch Gardens. Now I refuse to go to any company that is in partnership or is owned by the same company that owns SeaWorld. If I was to go back, it would only be for research and how I can make the lives of the animals there better.
Solid take and video. I agree with most of your points, although one thing that I think should have been touched on more is their foreign parks. The one that recently opened in Abu Dhabi looks incredible in terms of quality of care for the animals there. Sadly though this may only have been possible because of the location and the change in industry standards over seas. It seems like in almost all theme parks that are located both in the US and elsewhere, that the US park takes the cheaper cutting corners method. But to your point you did touch on that when you mentioned US for profit companies and their dire need to raise share prices to keep the ship moving.
I have never enjoyed seeing dolphins, orcas, or belugas in captivity. They’re apex predators and far too intelligent and social to live their lives in a glorified whale kiddy pool. The captive breeding of these animals needs to stop, though it is not only Seaworld continuing this practice. The National Aquarium in Baltimore regularly breeds their bottlenose dolphin pod (if you can call it that, last time I was there they were down to 4 dolphins) and puts the calves on display with the mothers. I appreciate that they aren’t taking new dolphins from the wild, but they really shouldn’t be breeding additional members for the pod either. Seals and sea lions are a different story though- given a big enough and interesting enough pool and a large enough “shore” to bask on, they seem perfectly content to work for food and socialize with their group(/pack/pride?). They seem to enjoy gliding through the water all day with no threat of sharks nearby. I really think that Seaworld could transition themselves from an orca/dolphin show company to a sea lion show company over the next ten years and gain favor back in the public’s view.
One day when I was 7, I went to six flags: discovery kingdom. If you didn’t know, it’s like the mix of a zoo and an amusement park. My 2 brothers and my dad went on a virtual reality ride. Instead, me and my mom went to watch a dolphin show. Worst decision of my life I still regret it this day.
In the case at sea world keiko was a great example he wasn’t from seaworld but he was rehabbed and his health improved he had 5 years there in the Oscan pen he was let out into the wild in hopes of finding a pod that would take him in. In sea-world u could of at least change the water to sea water put up shade for them put some rocks at the bottom of the tanks just to make it feel better for them
You might want to add that Keiko never found any pods that let him in and that he had to swim hundreds of miles without eating anything (he just couldn't hunt) to end up with people feeding him again. Poor thing just wanted to be around humans and be cared for. They abandoned this beautiful animal in the most horrific way possible and called it a succes. (Also the ocean doesn't exactly have any shade either, nor do they see many rocks in the wild)
Keiko was a tragic failure, everyone knows this. He was lonely, got sick, and died painfully in the wild. He would constantly seek out humans which would shove him away.
@@blabbergasted-nx9hubut a better option would be to keep him in one of the smallest tanks in the world with a rotting skin infection . He may not have found a pod to accept him but they did the best they could for him until the end . According to your logic the remaining orcas should and will die in those tanks because we can’t ascertain they will survive in the wild and if these sweet hearts could talk they would ask to go home even if it were for a week or a day who knows what concept of time they have for them could be another lifetime
@@cristianasaras6898 The better option would've been to keep him in the Oregon where they built a large tank for him. He was thriving there. The Mexican park was no good for him, but neither was "the wild". Sadly, all plans for expansion of cetacean habitats are immeditaly met with a ton of criticism by anticaps because "fReEdOm" and parks just don't get permits to expand their habitats in the end. Moving these animals to the wild is not gonna happen, both for their health and financially. Yet anticaps don't want parks to improve the habitats.
I always wonder how they even came up with the idea of seaworld, like who thought “hey let’s take these ginormously wonderful yet can be dangerous animals and put them in too small of chemically altered water with very little stimulation”
Thank the guy named Ted Griffin. He was the first human to have a captive orca. Other marine parks like SeaWorld saw the major draw orcas had on people and wanted the same thing for themselves. Griffin sparked the beginning of the era of captive orcas.
the way seaworld reacted to blackfish is like the “church” of scientology reacting to former members speaking out
Because they are both cults
Good analogy 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Or mormons/ jws
I used to be friends with someone who worked as a trainer. she proclaimed to love the whales but was quite happy to defend the treatment of them and even spit out the lies they tell the public as fact. That tells me what kind of company they are. I think once you know something about orcas and marine mammals, how a lot of them have bonds with their families, that orcas in particular age at a similar rate to us, have the same family bonds (like mother and child are just as bonded) and have culture and intelligence ... that's when you realize how cruel and disgusting this all is.
Speaking of orca culture apparently they had a trend of wearing dead fish as hats for a period lol
@@ziggygunz2447 lol yeah I saw that one. or the dolphins who like to get high from playing with puffer fish. there's a pod of rissos dolphins that has been found with an albino one in the pod and some of the watchers think the albino one is blind because the other members of the pod act in a very different way towards it and are constantly guiding it around. blindness and albinoism do go hand in hand. but if so, that would mean they are caring for their there less abled family members, which has only ever been seen in humans till now. not to mention they grieve the loss of their loved ones and other such displays of complex emotions. how anyone can claim them to be just animals astounds me.
Not to mention trainers often know nothing about marine biology let alone any expert information on orcas. The ppl who actually study these animals do not support these jails.
@@dragonstooth4223 Sighted dogs, cats and fancy rats have been known to guide other blind pets of the same species around.
Goldfish in bowl is as equally as bad but no cares about that
As a veterinarian I dated another vet student that worked at Sea World for a year. She'd have nightmares about it years later. Did you know the depressed whales are literally fed bucket fulls of prozac? One that refused to perform because her baby was taken from her cried non-stop, day and night for weeks. The decision was finally made to stop feeding her to see if that would get her to stop. My girlfriend and a fellow employee were fired for sneaking her food! She was haunted by that mother whale's screams for years. She was never aware they were filming Blackfish or she would have told the story. Seaworld, just don't go.
I'll take things that didn't happen for 500, Alex.
I find that hard to believe. If you said this happened at places like Miami Seaquarium or Marineland Ontario, I would believe it, but no matter how much you hate SeaWorld, they just don't do that kind of crap in modern days.
@@hawaiianpony I called her and the only think I corrected was "she cried non-stop, day and night for weeks" not months. Sorry about the confusion.
@@philorcinus13yes they do . Sea world is not a humane organization.
As a vet….
Blackfish is one of those films I could only watch once, but it will stick with me the whole rest of my life.
I saw Blackfish more than once but I feel the exact same way about the movie The Cove. I saw The Cove first so by the time I saw Blackfish at Sundance I was already mad and much more educated and I knew what I was getting myself into. it has been years and I still can’t watch The Cove. I donated to the Rick Barry foundation regularly to show my support for their continued efforts to save as much marine life as possible but watching/listening to those dolphins scream as they were trapped and slaughtered is something I will NEVER forget!
Ditto
I feel exactly how you described , I actually saw it afew times but no more .
The deaths etc could of been prevented , I also feel bad and sorry for the Whales even "Tilikum" who is the main focus of the Documentary.
You act like it was traumatizing
one thing i find quite funny about post-blackfish seaworld is how they tried to cover up the fact they exploited multiple legal loopholes in 2010 in order to get a lost orca calf from denmark into their posession after claiming she was deaf (she wasn't) and that she was too unhealthy to be rehabilitated (she was perfectly fine). And the fact they then used the same orca in 2017 to circumvent the breeding ban they made in 2016. Which lead to them, panicking, selling the orcas they had at loro parque and attempting to create a pretty rediculous cover up story as to why it happened.
There was a study done in 2013 that tested the click responses of the orcas at loro parque. The study determined that morgan tended to respond less than the other orcas. This is where the claim she is deaf originates from.
The study concluded that she *might* have a hearing defecit because her waveforms didn't match up to the other orcas they tested. However, they were unable to conclude anything else.
Furthermore, Morgan also she repeats calls and sounds heard in Norwegian orca populations which shows she must have been able to hear them.
She was also recorded mimicing sounds from other animals 5 months after she arived at loro parque (this is backed up by the vetenarian incharge of their orcas) further emphasising the fact she could hear.
So either she suddenly went deaf in 2012 or she has a mild hearing deficit as the 2013 study suggested which is very different to what loro parque is claiming.
Poor Morgan 😩
Typical capitalists: 'Our fifth amendment is being violated! We stole those animals fair and square!'
@@DowlphinIf I weren't laughing I would be crying. So sad. These poor animals 😢
@@Gamsbockoh you ate them up & shit them out
Ive been to SeaWorld twice....pre-Blackfish. I felt totally horrible because naive me figured they must have humongous, elaborate "homes" for the orca's when they weren't performing. Like there was some huge part of the park we dont see where these creatures must be living their best life!!! For me, the movie was everything because I would never go back!
Same
lots of us did--we were stupid, and they preyed on that--when the shit hit the fan, they lost billions but no one was ever charged for what they did capturing them 50 years ago--in fact, i just saw 1 guy who said "Its the best thing i ever did--mademe millions"
I’m not sure we would’ve learned as much about orcas and people would not be so familiar with them, If not for Seaworld. But once they had to start feeding them, Prozac and making up lies about their dorsal fins drooping they should’ve made changes. Then when blackfish came out, they should have completely re-organized their company and program.
You have a conscience and a good heart. 💜
Blackfish was such a big deal when it came out that my elementary school actually showed the film to everyone during an assembly. i don't remember a whole lot about that day, but i'm fairly certain their motive was to encourage kids to dissuade their parents from buying SeaWorld tickets and supporting the organization. i definitely think it worked, for as messed up as it was to do that.
That documentary is a little hardcore for elementary school kids, no?
@@MomMom4Cubs yeah, it was kinda fucked, but i don’t remember if we even finished the film. the details are very fuzzy by this point. there were probably permission slips that our parents had to sign now that i think about it
@@theodddoggo Still and all. I'm a pretty liberal parent when it comes to tv/movies, and I'd still have an issue with this nightmare fuel.
@@MomMom4Cubs i agree, it was a bit of an unhinged plan to go through with, but its in the past now and i'm sure they haven't tried to do something similar since then. if it makes you feel any better, the experience didn't have any kind of severe negative impact on me
I fail to see how that's worse than SW giving discounted tickets to school children to brainwash them into thinking animal abuse is cool. Last time I went the park was full of local school kids on a field trip. There were also kids who witnessed Tilikum killing his trainer that are likely scarred for life.
When I was younger, I always saw those commercials for Marineland (Canadian SeaWorld I guess), and I wanted to go see the Orcas. When Free Willy came out, I wanted to go even more, but I never did (because of money). But once I saw Blackfish, I said I would NEVER go to Marineland.
I used to scream at my TV every time that stupid commercial came on ... Everyone DOESN'T love Marineland!
Marineland is worse
I always got a weird vibe from the marineland commercials for some reason.
Marineland is arguably worse than Seaworld sadly
Marine land was 10x worse. Smaller tanks, neglect, the last orca was on its own for years just to die alone. It’s sad asf. Marine land was a massive fuck up. The owner was cheap, the park is just decaying, they need to clean sweep it and give it to someone who can do something cool with the property. Because the land is massive, and has a ton of potential. And give the remaining marine life to a qualified experts.
3:50 I love how literal confiscation of static items isn't a breach of rights, but basic animal rights for high intelligence animals is?
Fuck Seaworld
Static items? Like how my socks get after rubbing them through the carpet?
The hell is a static item?
Property doesn't have rights. Those who own animals own them like slaves, they are bought, own them legally, and can exploit them the way they want. These whales may be intelligent, they are still the park's property
How come it's illegal to kick a dog (a law I agree with, obviously!) yet other animals are tortured regularly for money? It's messed up and many of the younger generations are seeing that it's wrong, and choosing not to participate.
@@valmacclinchya dog is still property in the eyes of the law. All animals are property since they are sold and traded solely for human use. These laws exist purely to make sure the animals remain healthy for human use. A healthy cow is better purely because it sells better. Healthy pets bring in more money.
Watching the person on the boat made me so frustrated, who let that guy in a boat?
All I could think is "that poor boat"
Omg, me too! My husband and I actually own a small company and we repair boats for a living. So, we inevitably see some dumb boat owners, but this guy had me just dying! 😂
I know nothing about boats, what does he do that's so wrong?
@@silasmassey6128 maybe like getting water inside the boat to start
thanks for enligtening us on this!
That's depressing to hear they're still doing that shit to other marine animals. Also, frustrating to hear Busch Gardens has that much sway still with legislation
If your worried about that imagine how much sway apple or other massive company’s have
@@hanster.gun.3438The US government is made to serve business, not the people.
Capitalism be like
Don't care didn't ask I will continue to go to Seaworld/Busch Gardens even though I can see wild dolpins/Have seen wild dolphins just because I feel like it.
Go complain about the fairs that keep gold fish in glass bowls or aquariums, start to take down smaller businesses then make your way up to Seaworld when you have some experience.😘
@@momoniji6439 cry some more fanboy
Considering dolphins travel 80mi per day in the wild, orcas travel 40, and belugas migrate 1500mi every year, no enclosure is big enough for these animals. Adding this to their intelligence means it is always unethical to keep them in captivity. Unfortunately, this is a for-profit world and Sea World won't stop until they're completely defunded. A good majority of people are ignorant, and don't care if their animals are treated well because they get to see them up close. Great video, I'm glad to see that people still care about this topic enough to educate the public.
Maybe some of the people visiting are the same type that will have a dog kept in a run for its whole life with very little real interaction from its ‘family’.
@@rneustel388canines have been domesticated for thousands of years. Orcas are wild animals.
@@valmacclinchyI was just referring to the mindset of people that visit those animal parks.
Hamsters have territories of up to 8 miles in the wild. Outdoor cats will sustain territories of up to 15 miles on average and some ferals in Australia have been documented roaming for even more, upwards of 30.
Are you not aware of the fact that animals like roaming, regardless of whether they’re domesticated, wild, smart, or stupid? If you like science, it’s a well studied fact that animals roam out of necessity for survival, needing resources and to locate mates. They are not wandering aimlessly to explore the ocean or forests, they need to find food and mates to survive. This is a large part in why they do not go insane in captivity when cared for correctly despite their enclosures or cages being 1/1000th of the space they would normally have.
It applies for orcas as well. The reason orcas do not thrive in captivity is not because their tanks aren’t ocean sized, but because their tanks are small and barren, without any complexity to them,
the silent video format and the camera quality and overall editing style makes this seem like a horror documentary
I remember watching Defunctland's video on the Ocean Explorer and how Sea World's funds were originally gonna be used to expand the tanks even more but we're wasted on their crappy dark ride.
This is an example of the corporate culture envisioned by Ayn Rand. One of her disciples, Milton Friedman, carried her thinking into the US Congress and the White House and into the policies of both political parties. The election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 was the crowning victory, and an ideology based on the primacy of shareholder value became a bipartisan guiding light.
Sea World is governed by people who's actions reflect that guiding light. We have come to the point where these corporate giants have the power to influence and often determine public policy. It's the power of wealth, a power that corrupts absolutely.
This is poetry
What on earth are you talking about? AYN rand? FRIEDMAN? CORPORATE CULTURE? This is about the ethics of animal treatment and whether orcas should be held in captivity. Political and economic systems have nothing to do with it. Sea World could exist in a communist country or even in a monarchy.
I'm not arguing at all but what do you think is a healthier alternative?
@@cameronjones8641 A more democratic form of capitalism that does not allow individuals and organizations turning wealth into political power.
@@cameronjones8641 Literally almost anything would be a healthier alternative to a Randian corporate nightmare.
A thing I wanna add relating to your points about the ethics of aquariums.
With exceptions to marine mammals, marine animals give 0 shites about being "kidnapped from the wild". Most aquariums just aren't focused on marine mammals at all. Heck, the one I went too as a child had no mammals.
The primary exhibits at most aquariums are fish and invertebrates, neither of which give a damn about captivity, as long as their needs are tended to.
SeaWorld is an exception, because without their gimmick of having whales, they're just a mediocre theme park.
Love the username haha, but i just wanted to add that while that’s true, many large (emphasis on large) aquariums i’ve been to had a few exhibits with otters, penguins, birds that swim (? Like the ones that hunt under water idk the name) and worst of all, some sort of dolphin (orcas, belugas, dolphins). Personally, while those animals are cute and all, i’d rather see them in their natural habitat, and see more fish in their place…
OH ALSO SUPER AGREE on that last point. They’re a subpar theme park and a shitty “aquarium”
@otterhands8800 Fair enough, I've never been a patron of the larger, globally renowned type aquariums. I can only speak personally about the locations near me.
My point is mainly that, at the end of the day, legitimate aquariums can exist without showey mammal exhibits, which SeaWorld definitely cannot.
@@otterhands8800 the thing with those ones is that they can be ethically kept with the exception of large porpuses like orcas (porpuses= orcas, belugas, dolphins) as long as ones like belugas and dolphins arent used for shows and are kept in large enough tanks with enrichment they can be kept properly instead of being used as attractions
@@dinolover8183 yeah there are several aquariums that fit your description, and those ones have other exhibits other than the marine mammals that usually attract more of an audience.
This. People act like when you say orcas and whales should not be in captivity, that you want every aquarium to be taken down.
I went to SeaWorld and actually saw an orca show. I don't think it was Tillikum but it was a year before Dawn Brancheau's death. I remember they had an underground section where you could see the whale underwater. It swam right up to us and I put my hand up to the glass. It bumped it's nose where my hand was, you could just see the intelligence in these creatures eyes. I have an orca plush I still keep with me. When blackfish came out I thought about the whale in the tank and wondered if it was still going to suffer.
I know that sort of thing would prey on my mind at any age, and you didn’t say how old you were when you visited. We can hope that life got better for the orca later, even though we both know that probably didn’t happen. 💔
@@rneustel388 if only
Which SeaWorld did you go btw if you don’t mind me asking? Because Tilikum was in the Orlando resort. I went to SeaWorld San Diego couple of times before.
@@Alucard-lz2hb I went to the Orlando SeaWorld, my grandmother lives in Florida so I went there a lot. My family had a pass so I did both the underwater and up close experiences. I actually didn't know Tillikum was at the resort I'd been going to. I'm pretty sure I didn't see him, but I might've.
@@MariAnimates you probably did see him then since he was still alive back then (he died in 2017). I never saw him since I only went to the San Diego resort.
That said, I do not know much of the difference between male and female orcas.
Seaworld made every other aquarium have such a bad reputations. A lot of aquariums do so much for marine conservation and rehabilitation. Before you go to an aquarium you can do some quick research to see if they are AZA accredited and that basically means they’re approved to care for animals and they meet all the high standards for care. The aquarium I work at has an amazing rescue and conservation programs and we also do a lot of research and help out with the endangered species with species survival plans to help keep animals like penguins from going extinct.
Wild animals should not be kept in tanks. All aquariums are unethical because they use living beings for entertainment. The conversation that they do does not erase the exploitation of those businesses. It's just like oil companies saying they care about the environment because they donate a small percentage of their earnings to a questionable charity that claims to help the environment. Stop supporting animal exploitation businesses and instead support true conversation efforts from organizations that don't exploit animals at all.
@@Tracydot3Off the top of my head, Florida Aquarium is a major hub for coral reef restoration, which is especially important right now in Florida since they just had a MASSIVE bleach. Monterey Bay Aquarium leads the world in deep sea research. New England Aquarium is one of the most prominent figures in right whale conservation. Alaska SeaLife Center has an enormous rescue and release program for animals throughout the state. Clearwater Marine Aquarium consists exclusively of rescued animals. There’s definitely good ones out there.
All of the Sea World parks are AZA accredited.
@@Katesaprincess Keep in mind the AZA was involved in that beluga import controversy in 2012-2015 and fully supported Georgia Aquarium’s and SeaWorld’s efforts to capture 18 whales from an endangered stock in Russia, and they turned a blind eye to the private sale of tiger cubs by Columbus Zoo. I’d say their standards are better than a road-side zoo, no doubt, but they certainly aren’t a golden seal of perfection when it comes to animal welfare.
@@itsikabitch9005 I never said that they didn’t. The original commenter said to look for AZA accredited places and Sea World is AZA accredited.
Thank you for covering this because it’s not spoken about enough. I vaguely remember hearing that Sea World ended up spending their budget to expand their Orca tanks on a new rollercoaster instead. Sea World does not care to any extent and it’s a company I refuse to support at this point. Their actions are disgusting and it’s heartbreaking that these animals are suffering. I love aquariums but animals this big shouldn’t be in captivity. (an exception for animals hurt or endangered but they need proper care, tanks that meet all their needs and then some) I hope one day Sea World goes under so they can stop damaging the lives of these animals.
I agree almost entirely with what you said, i would like to point out though, there are some major issues with the coastal sanctuary projects, mostly that "fencing in" that much coastal space COULD create major problems for native species, particularity migratory species, of marine life. Ive actually done quite a bit of study and research about this, i work in environmental services and have a degree in fisheries managment from Auburn University. I do not work at a for profit business, and my job revolves around studying snd managing the possible environmental impact on aquatic ecosystems by man made projects. I have not worked around thr sanctuaries directly, as om primarily southeast based, but i did study them and their possible impacts. Again, not saying they are bad, just pointing out that we do not know their full environmental impact, and should be cautious when directly altering a living ecosystem.
not to mention, even as a marine land director has admitted, these animals are pumped full of drugs & antibiotics (he self admittedly stated he himself had drugged the orcas. that is fact. there is no debate that these orcas contain vicious amounts of man made substances & drugs that native wild marine life have very likely never been exposed too & especially not an animal infected so heavily), so releasing them into the natural environment would not only cause an extreme shock & downgrade to their system, it would also do the same to the natural ecosystem they are kicked out into. not to mention, most of these animals are captive born. all they know are these concrete walls. it would be cruel in a way to turn them out into an environment they’ve never been & never knew while physically fighting to adapt to a totally different environment. not to mention the extreme pressure this would put on the environment even if we were to choose 1 island or coastal area to send every captive whale & dolphin in the world to, there is just too high demand & too low of supply on the space necessary to achieve even the disaster this would likely be. the best solution i see is to clear out&dig up a few of their grand stands & 20,000 parking lots & actually add sufficient space of concrete lakes to put these animals into, & to start actually doing something about the social hierarchies & social mental emotional and physical needs of these animals. why should these places have “lakes” and “ponds” for land scaping & public view & human enjoyment when we could achieve both those qualities & a significant increase in quality of life for the rest of these animals that we put on this earth against the will of the natural world? why cant we spare some parking lots so these animals aren’t killing themselves, each other, & their carers out of pure boredom & misery?
oh & i didn’t even mention how sickly these animals are from swimming in a little pool of the same bacteria & contaminated in all sorts of ways from foreign bacteria filled water, & beating the life out of themselves & each other. the poor things would swim themselves into a never ending sleep if we just turned them out to a sea pen, even if we somehow managed to find a slow enough acclimation process that is healthy & humane. at the end of the day this would also be a lot of $$ and there’s only so much to drain from the piggy banks of the CEOs so the question is where does the rest of it come from to complete something feasible for everyone like this?
Excellent comment thank you 🙏🏽
I recently wrote a 4 page essay for my linguistics class in which I argue that certain cetaceans (orcas and sperm whales) use language and Blackfish provided a lot of great information
Sea World should be shut down at least
Oh no, you used a biased secondhand source as “research” and actually cited it?
Hopefully not a college course…
@@maddieb.4282 got a 10/10 score and everything.
Not that it's any of your business, but the info used on my essay came from multiple credible sources, it was not like I only watched Blackfish to study.
Despite being biased, the documentary did inspire me to take a deeper look on orcas (the essay was focused on sperm whales at first) and the neuroscientific research about the unique structures found in cetaceans' brain anatomy.
i wouldn’t be citing blackfish as a reference, though. while i wholeheartedly agree with the points they argue in the documentary, it was ultimately extremely biased and they exaggerated many of their claims.
@@atxbeeCould you source these claims please.
Regarding the aquarium issue, I think it depends on the species
Most animals are only going to care if the place they live provides for their needs, is safe from predators and doesn't make them feel uncomfortable. Most creature will live long happy lives in captivity so long as their oners give a sh%t about them
But with an extremely intelligent animal ore one with special need the ethical captivity becomes *a lot* harder
Definitely. It's also important to take into account how an animal naturally moves in it's environment. An orca that migrates literally all over the world will suffer in any enclosure that can't provide that, a starfish that stays on one small patch of reef it's while life probably won't mind a safe tank and regular food
Exactly
My parents took me to SeaWorld when I was around 9. We went to see an orca show and I felt really depressed the whole time. I remembered seeing an orca with a large cut on the news months before, and something about how a trainer was killed and I kept thinking about that during the show. I think I felt that the orcas were being exploited in some way, doing flips in that small tank for our entertainment.
Same. I went in 2011 I think when I was 12 and my parents told me about the passing from the trainers. That’s why they don’t go into the waters anymore.
I didn’t get much from the show because I’m German and my English back then was just basic understanding. Our whole holiday in Miami was just overwhelming. But just 2 years later with better English, more growing I talked with my parents about it how had it is. And they total share my feelings. We just went to see it. But I’m glad we will never do it again. I’m very happy they share the same thoughts as me…
But remembering back it was weird knowing someone died and I’m sitting there with my family…
The dolphin show was cool. But I wouldn’t want to see stuff like that again. Sadly I’m a kindergarten teacher and we go to zoos on trips… not often but 2 times a year 😭
I went to a sea lion show at an aquarium recently and couldn't help but notice how fixated the sea lions were on the food. Obviously it was a reward system, as in do a trick get a fish, but I couldn't help but wonder if they restricted the animal's food at all just to get them to do the tricks and obey on command. Who knows, maybe the sea lions are well fed and happy, but it made me wish I could be a fly on the wall when the patrons weren't around just to see how they're treated.
You can look at a sea-lion and know if it is starving. Its body will be lacking in fat. They just skip a meal before they perform.
And ppl wonder why Orcas are sinking yachts lol.
"Down with the 1%!!" - 🐬 (I don't have an Orca emoji but you get the point)
Team Orca, Team Nature
Orcas are technically dolphins so that works great lol!
@@terroristtoast699they Are, their the biggest dolphin species! Beautiful animals that deserve so much more than this
ermmm why would you support wildlife killings of humans
Can you blame them?
I can't.
@@PrazLeothey’re*
Free Willy highlighted this stuff two decades prior. SeaWorld just didn't care until their hand was forced.
Fun fact: originally they were going to film the movie at SeaWorld and use their animals but SeaWorld refused unless Warner Bros changes the ending to be more realistic and suggested having Willy going to a better aquarium maybe even SeaWorld.
Keeping cetaceans in captivity is a truly awful thing to do. They are extremely social, extremely intelligent and built to roam hundreds of thousands of square miles of open ocean. Some things can be kept in captivity perfectly fine, but there is no manmade structure in existence large enough to house a single small pod of dolphins in a reasonable facsimile of their environment. It's worse than keeping a dog in a cage. They speak to each other. They have accents and dialects and names and teach their children complex skills and strategies. Keeping them in a pool to perform tricks for your entertainment is just Wrong.
I didn't hear a single word in the middle portion of the video, I was too focused on and distracted by the random clip of that dude almost sinking his boat. Wtf was that lmao
Hahaha
It was an analogy for SeaWorld trying to save their reputation in the wake of Blackfish, and failing as miserably as the guy in the boat, I reckon.
Thankfully, the cameraman kept recording and captured something for us to laugh at.
Someone I know went to Loro Parque last week (also featured in blackfish) and they’ve still got orcas
...the boat guy.
It would be nice if the government could seize Seaworld as a company and declare it as a nationalized Ocean protection park or whatever. Basically keep everything the same but remove the profit incentive and be more humane to the animals while increasing their efforts to educate, protect, and serve the ocean and it's creatures.
the government won’t even do that for humans lol
Government won’t because they are being lobbied by big ass corps like sea world
Kind of problematic to set the precedent of the government being able to seize private assets randomly for their own reasons (valid or not)
@@maddieb.4282 I could not care less about the "rights" of "private assets". Companies aren't people, they ain't got no rights to speak of. Anyways, as someone already pointed out; this government doesn't care at all and won't do anything to help people let alone animals.
Yeah, right after people worked to make their government non-capitalist.
I never understood the appeal of places like SeaWorld or the circus. As neat as it can be to see the tricks of the animals, it always feels haunting to control innocent creatures for material gain. We look back on the horrors done to exotic animals in Rome but pretend that these shows are humane.
Most people are incredibly simple minded and can't see past the entertaining tricks... 😪
This is extremely well done and super underrated!
Aquariums are good, ethical facilities. Unless it’s Seaworld. They do it for profit. The actual aquariums that focus on conservation and teaching are amazing. If you wanna argue with that…you can only argue if you do more to help the ocean than they do
Thank you for making this very important video; your energy, time, and effort are very much appreciated;
Tilikum was abused before, his descendants aren't angry because they weren't abused. Being in a small tank isn't good for anyone though.
Just because abuse doesn’t happen from trainers doesn’t mean that the animals won’t turn on eachother because of their cruel conditions, if the cruel practice doesn’t end up killing the animal the other animals will because there is no “natural” death in these tanks. Orcas, Beluga Whales, Dolphins, ect ect can become incredibly violent and no one has an escape from the conflict because of the tiny tanks nor can trainer directly jump in and help so even if they’re “good” trainers there will forever be bloodshed in their tanks because they’re trying to profit from wild animals while driving them crazy :(
Seeing this just now as the orca Lolita, who was set to be released this year, has sadly died of kidney failure after spending 53 captivity. I’m glad she’s finally free of suffering. Her release was halted and stalled for years by the Aquarium. She was retired this year prior to release, but soon after suspiciously developed renal failure and abruptly died in her tiny tank.
considering how expensive it would have been to free Lolita, I definitely think they either flat out murdered her or let her die slowly without adecuate treatment
💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭
seaworld is so cruel and disgusting, they made her die slowly by feeding her poisonous food, vile, just vile, i have no words for how vile and cruel some humans are.
@@janelle.evangelista999SeaWorld sucks but had literally nothing to do with Tokitae.
Thank you for updating us about this important info about the cruel company.
Bro that video of the dude sinking his own boat took me out! Great video again big dogg!
😅😅
Blackfish is on the YT free with ads movie menu, FYI:)
I can't stress enough how pissed off I am at company not doing anything because "it doesn't affect them much".
Think about how hollow of a moral code these individuals live by. The shallowness of people running after profit like it fundamentaly matters.
WHAT IS BOAT BOY DOING!!
Great video! Just saw your Atlantis video, surprised to find a new upload at the same time.
Great work Michael, have a good one 👍
learning about the corporate side of seaworld, i can confirm they're still terrible. not only mistreating orcas, but not paying rent to san diego and liscencing fees to sesame workshop. they said they were supposed to phase out orca shows, but went back on that route back in 2020 (despite what they want you to think, it's still a show, i skipped recording these animal expiriences for a reason when i went to seaworld for my travel channel). they also recently got called out for high chlorine levels in their tanks. i'd rather them remove the animals entirely from the park than try to paint their "conservation" in a good light.
It still baffles me that people would give money to this horrible company who has a long time record of mistreating these beautiful animals
When there is a wildlife crisis on or off the coast of San Diego, Sea World has always been the institution locals have contacted due to their decades of work. They would do it without a fee
I'm no expert on cetacean body language. But I am a living being. And as such, I will say this : I didn't even watch this video, but the floppy dorsal fin on this magnificent orca we can see in the thumbnail, says it all.
Not technically body language because orcas don’t consciously control the structure of their fins, it’s a physiological illness
The dorsal fin is made out of cartillage. It has no bone or muscle to keep it upright. Orcas in human care spend a lot of time near the surface to interact with the behaviourists etc. Gravity then just does it's thing and pulls the fin down. The function of the dorsal fin is to provide stability and balance in strong currents. This make the fin kind of useless for orcas in human care. We can see similar things in certain wild orca populations that spend most of their time near the surface to hunt. It has nothing to do with the physical or emotional wellbeing of the animal.
@@blabbergasted-nx9hu The Orcas I've seen in their natural habitat tend to have upright dorsal fins. And even with everything you've just described, I don't see why a floppy dorsal fin would have ''nothing to do with the physical or emotional well-being of the animal''. If they don't spend any time in their natural currents, and are stuck in a tank, that's not good for them, obviously.
@@rigelb9025 As I said, certain pods that hunt near the surface (like some pods near New Zealand) do have collapsed dorsal fins. Most orca pods dive deeper to hunt (aka survive).
Why is it 'obviously not good for them' to not have to worry about currents? Why do anticaps act like the wild is some kind of incredible paradise? The animals are under constant threat of nature and humans, they need to swim enormous distances to find food to survive, which is becomign harder and harder due to pollution and overfishing. Compared to that, the orcas in human care are like pampered puppies. Nature kills, it's not a paradise.
@@blabbergasted-nx9hu Hmmm, ok. That would be like the equivalent of saying 'I can't believe some people would actually rather walk free than be in prison. I mean - the free food, the shelter, the predictable schedule, no need to walk long distances to get anywhere.. sounds so much better than having to fend for oneself in this dangerous world''.
Quality videos, keep it up, I think you'll have a lot more subscribers soon...
for real! channel only had around 15k now it has 120k!
Good work as always keep up the amazing content!!
9:29 that room stanks so bad lol
im a marine bio student and my mom keeps suggesting i work at sea world
for moral reasons, that us one of the jobs i just cannot bring myself to do
she suggested maybe i could work my way up and make things better for the animals but theres no way i could get that kind of power in a corporate themepark that doesnt really care about their animals
Honestly I didn’t even know SeaWorld was still in business.
business is booming
@@jamalreturns4434 my local SeaWorld closed like 20 years ago and was outdated at the time.
Blackfish is a great documentary, it's intresting and tragic for those who died, got injured and for the Whales themselves.
When I first watched Blackfish I was utterly dismayed at how these humans could enslave such intelligent and majestic creatures and confine them to a life of boredom and performing for the entertainment of other humans. I was livid. I then stumbled upon Dominion (2018) which showcased standard farming practices in Australia and I was again left utterly dismayed. Except, this time, I was culpable. I was the one with blood on my hands through creating demand for such farming practices via my consumption of animal products in the name of my taste pleasure, convenience and culture. I am now vegan and try my best to boycott all products and merchants of animal abuse.
Thank you for doing what you personally can. I wish this perspective was more widespread.
Hey there, vegetarian here for nearly 20 years. Luckily, I can buy eggs from my neighbors' chickens, who're quite content, and free range milk. the ingredients in fertilizer are often dead animals: K (Potassium), N (Nitrogen), and Ca. Things have to die for me to live, but they shouldn't suffer. I just can't eat meat, it disgusts me at this point. But I worry about what fertilizes my greens.
People enslave other people to this very day. just sayin
@@pickles3128 Hey there, well done on being vegetarian for 20 years and your concern for animal welfare. Unlike vegetarianism, veganism is more than just a diet and is primarily an ethical stance against animal exploitation as far as is practicable and possible. Vegans recognise the rights of non-human animals to be free from exploitation, enslavement, torture and slaughter. Generally some combination of these rights violations are inherent in animal agriculture, including backyard chickens and "free-range milk", especially when there's a profit motive.
Farmed chickens don't come from nowhere, they must be bred into existence. Unfortunately 50 percent are born male, and as your neighbour is only concerned for selling their female chicken's ovulations, there's a high likelihood the excess roosters are generally slaughtered for meat. In the industry the male chicks are macerated on their first day of life as they're unprofitable and go into the fertilizer you speak of - I can recommend avoiding consuming egg containing products made outside your home.
As for milk, cows don't produce milk for humans. Like every other mammal, cows produce milk to nurse their babies. Thus in order to produce milk for humans consumption cows are made to be pregnant via artificial insemination and the calves are separated from their mothers so we can take their milk. The cows having mammalian maternal instincts run after their calves as they're hauled away and visibly mourn the loss of their baby. This cycle is continued with the cow being impregnated every year for 4 to 5 years. At this point their milk production declines and they're no longer profitable to be milked so are sent to the slaughterhouse. As with male chicks, male calves are shot on their first days of life or fattened up for 2 to 3 months to be slaughtered for veal.
Unfortunately many vegetarians are blind to these practices, I certainly was for the 18 months I was vegetarian before stumbling upon the Dominion documentary. Unfortunately we live in a world where humans devalue non-human animals they exploit, and there's only so much one can possibly boycott, yet we must do what we can. If you can grow your own greens with plant-based compost, you should. If not, you should do what's possible.
Well, good job, you're destroying rainforests and letting vegan companies exploit their Minority workers now, Going vegan is not a good solution either and you should understand that not all farms are unethical. There are a lot of ethical farms out there that you should support instead of supporting big corporate ones, Animal products aren't the problem, People are the problem and how people use a business to profit.
Can you imagine feeling the ocean tides for the first time?!Every sea creature deserves that!! If we treat humans that way, it’s a crime!
I will never understand why so many people mistreat marine life and fish and people just think they have no feelings because they're fish. Fish can be really intelligent, and so can goldfish! Just a lot of people use fish for show and not as an actual pet or animal to show real affection to and to make sure they don't suffer
The guy in the boat tho 😂
I used to dream about going to Seaworld when I was a kid, but my parents refused to take me. I am really glad they did'nt. Also, if anyone reading this is thinking about seeing Blackfish, its free on UA-cam, go watch it. It is one of the best best documentaries I've seen in recent memory. I will warn yall though, its very heartbreaking, I cried my eyes out after watching it due to all the terrible conditions these majestic creatures were forced into.
Blackfish is very hard for me to watch, but I think of it as my favorite documentary of all time ever since my first viewing of it. I've watched it twice, and have intended on doing so a third time. Hell, unrelated to this, but I also watched The Cove (The 2009 film) right after my first viewing of it and I recommend that too, tho it's also really hard to watch when it gets to THAT part.
The people saying that Blackfish is bs only fell for the lies Seaworld spouted at them. Which is extremely frustrating, as I have no reason to not believe ex-staff pouring their hearts out about how SW abuses their animals as an animal lover, but to believe a megacorp who want nothing but money anyways. it makes no sense. I'm sticking to the sides of the ex-staff, at least THEY don't put the blame of the trainers deaths on said trainers that literally cannot defend themselves because they're fucking dead now. I'm still pissed about how they treated Dawn's passing, it's so gross.
I agree about the crying. I would find myself thinking about portions of the video days later, and the tears would return.
Actually Dawn Brancheau’s Death + Blackfish= Death of Seaworld. Not sure if the claims in Blackfish are true but coupling that with the tragic death of a top trainer and Seaworld blaming her for negligence etc was a horrible PR nightmare for this company. Esp since OSHA. Fined them etc but if Blackfish came out by itself without the death of a top trainer then I don’t think the documentary would have had as much impact on the masses
Seaworld today is just another reminder of how unjust the world we live in is... Not only how the law allows such wicked industries to run but also how the majority of people are just brainless 😔
i really like this video. your voice is very calming
The omsi museum in Portland Oregon has an orca exhibit right now about orcas and orcas in captivity. It was actually very good!! Now this video popped up after going to the museum yesterday. Weeeird.
It's not complicated at all. As long as they still have orcas and other sea mammals in captivity, they are still bad. Just let them and all other mammals go.
11:05 "...you could certainly make the argument that there's no way to do that ethically at all"
you say that like as if I can manage anything besides crawling to and from work
8:35 Ethics and ethical dilemmas are not subjective - Truth, right and wrong, are knowable through reason. What the video creator may have meant to say is that at first glance, we may disagree on if Zoos and Aquariums are evil and the debate is, currently, ongoing.
Subjectivity in ethics only ever seems to get a mention when non-human animals are discussed. People will excuse the worst, most barbaric practices known to man so long as the victims aren't human.
You have a very relaxing voice
I'm glad I have never gone to seaworld/marine land ever in my life.
Wow!
That movie changed things,but it won't fix things by itself!
So interesting man! Keep the good work going
Thank you for your coverage of this topic! I believe the film maker's name was john Hargrove rather than matt but excellent video.
You saw tilikum if you watched any shamu show. He was the big boy they used to splash people while you screamed Shamu shamu! In Orlando anyway
I love that your videos are in 3:4
"Breed in concrete cages." The same can be said for a large majority of humanity, especially those that live in the monstrosities we call "cities."
Its more like prison
Cities are monstrosities? How exactly
Mush brain type shit
my friend, as much as american cities are lacking, if you care about quality of life, you should really be concerned about the suburbs
You really can't compare that to living your whole life in a box but ok
what’s with the guy trying to sink the jet boat ?
I used to go to SeaWorld as a kid. I loved it there because I hated rollercoasters and I was too afraid of mascots at Disney or Universal. I would see the animals at SeaWorld and loved them. I wasn't educated back then about their horrible culture. I didn't know their abusive nature. It wasn't until I started getting into marine biology a few years ago that I realized that the company is terrible. When I did start liking rollercoasters I started going to Busch Gardens. Now I refuse to go to any company that is in partnership or is owned by the same company that owns SeaWorld. If I was to go back, it would only be for research and how I can make the lives of the animals there better.
Busch Gardens is owned by SeaWorld Entertainment Inc. (not sure if that's what you meant)
@@clvrcookie Yeah it is. I refuse to go back to Busch Gardens
YES ABSOLUTELY.
Saved you 14 mins.
Keeping these Organs and Baluga whales in those pools is like keeping a full grown Great Dane in a tiny apartment.
Solid take and video. I agree with most of your points, although one thing that I think should have been touched on more is their foreign parks. The one that recently opened in Abu Dhabi looks incredible in terms of quality of care for the animals there. Sadly though this may only have been possible because of the location and the change in industry standards over seas. It seems like in almost all theme parks that are located both in the US and elsewhere, that the US park takes the cheaper cutting corners method. But to your point you did touch on that when you mentioned US for profit companies and their dire need to raise share prices to keep the ship moving.
This was a great video!
Orcas swim 100 miles a day in the wild and never attack humans. That’s all we need to know😢
I went to SeaWorld for the first time ever this year and I feel so bad for the Orcas.
I am from Florida and SeaWorld does play a role in helping boat struck manatees here
Wow great point, we should forgive them and allow them to continue abusing the animals in their care
I have never enjoyed seeing dolphins, orcas, or belugas in captivity. They’re apex predators and far too intelligent and social to live their lives in a glorified whale kiddy pool. The captive breeding of these animals needs to stop, though it is not only Seaworld continuing this practice. The National Aquarium in Baltimore regularly breeds their bottlenose dolphin pod (if you can call it that, last time I was there they were down to 4 dolphins) and puts the calves on display with the mothers. I appreciate that they aren’t taking new dolphins from the wild, but they really shouldn’t be breeding additional members for the pod either. Seals and sea lions are a different story though- given a big enough and interesting enough pool and a large enough “shore” to bask on, they seem perfectly content to work for food and socialize with their group(/pack/pride?). They seem to enjoy gliding through the water all day with no threat of sharks nearby. I really think that Seaworld could transition themselves from an orca/dolphin show company to a sea lion show company over the next ten years and gain favor back in the public’s view.
sea lions are really smart too, so there would be a similar appeal to orcas
@@parallel8502 definitely, seals too with their dopey little faces!
dolphins are as intelligent as a human toddler, yet they are kept in tiny cages and bred and doomed to suffer for the rest of their lives.
Let us not forget the penguins and sharks being held in small artificial environments.
One day when I was 7, I went to six flags: discovery kingdom. If you didn’t know, it’s like the mix of a zoo and an amusement park. My 2 brothers and my dad went on a virtual reality ride. Instead, me and my mom went to watch a dolphin show. Worst decision of my life I still regret it this day.
What if Steve O climbing that crane naked with a blow up killer whale is what made the huge change in SeaWorld.
It’s been 10 years 🤯 why do I feel like I just seen it not that long ago
The footage of the guy messing around on the boat was super distracting 😅
Wtf was that guy doing even?? Was that the ex-CEO of Sea World?? 😂
In the case at sea world keiko was a great example he wasn’t from seaworld but he was rehabbed and his health improved he had 5 years there in the Oscan pen he was let out into the wild in hopes of finding a pod that would take him in.
In sea-world u could of at least change the water to sea water put up shade for them put some rocks at the bottom of the tanks just to make it feel better for them
You might want to add that Keiko never found any pods that let him in and that he had to swim hundreds of miles without eating anything (he just couldn't hunt) to end up with people feeding him again. Poor thing just wanted to be around humans and be cared for. They abandoned this beautiful animal in the most horrific way possible and called it a succes.
(Also the ocean doesn't exactly have any shade either, nor do they see many rocks in the wild)
Keiko was a tragic failure, everyone knows this. He was lonely, got sick, and died painfully in the wild. He would constantly seek out humans which would shove him away.
@@blabbergasted-nx9hubut a better option would be to keep him in one of the smallest tanks in the world with a rotting skin infection . He may not have found a pod to accept him but they did the best they could for him until the end . According to your logic the remaining orcas should and will die in those tanks because we can’t ascertain they will survive in the wild and if these sweet hearts could talk they would ask to go home even if it were for a week or a day who knows what concept of time they have for them could be another lifetime
@@cristianasaras6898 The better option would've been to keep him in the Oregon where they built a large tank for him. He was thriving there. The Mexican park was no good for him, but neither was "the wild". Sadly, all plans for expansion of cetacean habitats are immeditaly met with a ton of criticism by anticaps because "fReEdOm" and parks just don't get permits to expand their habitats in the end. Moving these animals to the wild is not gonna happen, both for their health and financially. Yet anticaps don't want parks to improve the habitats.
Answer: YES. Shut it down!
Is that you, Michael, with the mullet..?
Is the guy on the boat for real? 😂😂😂
I couldn't finish blackfish.
I cried umtil halfway through and it was so sad
It was hard to get through 😢
4:09 saying the n word once is no where near as horrible as systematically abusing animals thats fucking ridiculous
I hope my dude knows how to swim because he was never going to get that boat going.😂😂
05:17 - LMAO I had to rewind and rewatch because this was so distracting.
I gonna save you 14 minutes of your life: yes they are torturing and killing orcas.
I always wonder how they even came up with the idea of seaworld, like who thought “hey let’s take these ginormously wonderful yet can be dangerous animals and put them in too small of chemically altered water with very little stimulation”
Thank the guy named Ted Griffin. He was the first human to have a captive orca. Other marine parks like SeaWorld saw the major draw orcas had on people and wanted the same thing for themselves. Griffin sparked the beginning of the era of captive orcas.