Why Man United Are Their Own Worst Enemy
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2023
- Manchester United Twice threw away a lead against Copenhagen in a spectacular Champions League group defeat. While fingers will be pointed at a series of questionable refereeing decisions, Eric Ten Hag's problems were, predictably, entirely of his team's own making.
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This profile over personnel is something Pep does too. Like Fernandinho or Kolarov at CB because they are left footed and ball players. When Pep did this at City in his first season, he was not very successful but he got a clear blueprint of the type of players he needed for his team. Next season, City brought in a number of players to fill these makeshift roles and they won the premier league.
ETH should be given more time. It's not like United have seen any success in the last 10 years, they can manage another year without winning anything. But if they stick with ETH, they may just find a way back to the top.
Their problems seem to be mental, whether that is a seeming unwillingness to play with intensity or just switching off and not marking players. No one from outside the club really understands why this is so. I hope ETH can sort it out.
He cannot
No manager can change how these players want to play. It's been 4 managers now with the same group of players. These players need to be sold
@@MK12275which players exactly, the manager has spent more than 400m in 2 windows and people still blaming the players. Last night half the team was either players he bought or he offered new contracts to. In fact he chose to leave 4 of his signings on the bench to play some of those players. People need to stop blaming the players and look at the root cause. A rotten club with a rotten ownership that just has a loser mentality.
@@jtmz87 What exactly are the owners and the non-player or manager aspects of the club doing to impact what's happening on the pitch? They don't have any strong leaders in their team so that definitely doesn't help. There's a cancer in the dressing room, maybe carried from previous teams and managers to the current lot but it needs cutting out if they're to solve these mentality issues.
@@robbieguh what is the cancer, if not the ownership and the culture that they’ve fostered since Sir Alex retired and David Gill left. If it’s in the dressing room, then it lies with our longest serving players, Rashford, Martial and Shaw. You can’t blame Varane, Casemiro, even Maguire and Sancho can’t be blamed.
I'm a Utd fan for decades and what really frustrates about the current side is the lack of intelligence. That ability to read the game, spot a weakness, take an opportunity just isn't there. The passing in the final 3rd is abysmal. Time and again Utd's players take the wrong option. And it's not just one player, although Rashford is extraordinarily bad, it's a whole team making one horrible decision after another. The situational awareness is non existent so fans find themselves shouting at the TV when a player squares instead of turning into space or passes to nobody when there's 1-2 good options.
Defence is just as horrible at times. The players know the shape they are supposed to be in but have no real idea why. So they line up but don't track the runs that hurt us. They don't spot the opposition player in space. They leave huge gaps around the pitch, sometimes laziness but often just plain old stupidity.
I feel like last season, we had less injuries and some players like Martinez and Casemiro played out of their skin to compensate for the mess elsewhere. Without Martinez actually taking control of defence and also setting up attacks with those neat progressive passes, the whole thing is predictable in attack and chaotic in defence. Exactly the opposite of what we need.
I don't blame Ten Hag for most of this and he can't actually say his players are morons no matter how many facepalms he does in a game. What is his fault, is signing his own idiot (thank you Antony) and not getting his substitutions right. He is trying to get players who have never been coached to think systemically about their style of play, to become functional cogs in a system. They don't seem able.
The 2nd goal for United was a good example of that. I know United scored, but Garnacho should have passed. If that chance wasn't scored, imagine how much worse it could have been. Too many individuals, not enough of a team.
@@Xenunt1 Bruno had a great chance to set up a 3rd goal in the 1st half and he passed it behind McTominay in front of goal. A clear chance wasted by the captain. They all do this stupid stuff. So frustrating
100% agree, decision making & game management on field has cost us so many goals & chances alike. Was rewatching the Crystal Palace game where Casemiro got sent off & we still managed a 2-1 win last season & Martinez is without a doubt the missing piece in out back line. Intelligent, streetwise, exceptional passing ability, & 100% committed every time he challenges. God, I'm begging you bring him back to us soon 😭😭
@@asmapatel the reality is we have been poor since Martinez was injured last season. We went out of the Europa Cup, stopped winning games and lost the FA Cup Final. It felt like our season ended when he was injured.
We brought him back not fully fit this season and he struggled. Turned out the injury wasn't healed and he needed another operation. It's such a shame as he's the best signing we've made in years and absolutely vital given the weaknesses of those around him in defence and midfield.
Fans don't seem to realise how important he is but at his best Martinez has 3 roles in the team. 1) He actually leads from the back. There were a few games last season when we collapsed but, mostly, when Martinez played he took control of the game when we were under pressure and made the right decisions in defense. He snuffed out attacks that this season are leading to goal concessions.
2) He can play as a LCB, LB and CDM. In the Ajax system, his ability to slot into different roles as his LB pushes forward and to push the CB line up such that he's nearly playing as a CDM means we can play much closer to the way Ten Hag wants.
3) His progressive passing means we transition from defence to attack faster and other teams are more nervous about attacking us. He can thread a through ball like a top quality CAM. This helped us score on the counter many times last season. Martinez doesn't just hoof the ball out like Varane or Maguire. He tends to find a Utd player who can set up an attack, or he sets up the attack himself. He was instrumental to our best games last season and we lack so much without him.
What I would say, is if I’m a sporting director I’d love to sell players to United. You could always point to the sale and say “look how badly they’re doing now, that was a great decision to sell them when we did”
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Excellent analysis Adam,I remember the most telling comment i heard was when TH started at Man U and someone wrote"the problem is most of the players incapable of playing the way TH wants them to"
Perfect manager appointment by United then
We spent 400m and let him sign tonnes of former ajax and eredivise players.
@@harukrentz435 People do not realise that this isn't necessarily ETH fault. A competent recruitment structure would mean that ETH would not have to go back to players he's worked with before. Even the amount that has been spent is stupid but that is not his fault. Take Antony, for example, they could have got him for 40 million, Glazers said no then waited a couple months, panicked and then paid over double. Casemiro, who is ageing and cost 30 million, was not his choice, it was De Jong. Hojlund, inexperienced and cost 70 million, rather than Kane who was his priority signing. This is not to say ETH is not to blame but whenyou constantly have managers coming in and they pick the players and then you sack them, you create an unbalanced squad. City, liverpool, Arsenal, even Brighton have structures in place to buy players that suit a certain style of play regardless of manager and they seem to work better. United are a shambles from the very top and that seaps into every other aspect. Sack ETH, get a new manager and let them sign who they want and you repeat the cycle.
He brought Mount on for Energy to chase the ball from the front NOT to hold up the ball.
At this stage as a united fan. I think I’d just describe it as so united. New manager hope optimism followed by despair and an eventual sacking that’s just what we do now.
Problems are with the entire football department. But we will never fix it we will just hire another manager and go again. Sigh 😢
Well u had Jose. U wanted him gone. U deserve decades of despair
Man Utd need a manager that can work with the players they have. ETH is too inflexible and its making them play worse than they actually are.
@@Charlie_Nice For one thing the entire organisation was already set when the Glazers bought the club. Secondly after Ferguson left what was left of that organisation was also gone. Five managers later and loads of players in and out United is no closer to success than what they where after Ferguson left wich really indicates that its the structure in that club thats part of the problem. And the playing styles of the managers they appointed never matched either wich didnt help with a long term strategy. Hiring ex man Utd players in staff even tho they have no previous merits, signing older ex man utd players or old stars. Chasing a big name signing for several years, instead of finding other players.
And one of the most clear signs of how badly the club is organised is that there aren't many players in the club that you can say have actually gotten better since they arrived.
Its incredibly difficult to sack bad players but very easy (but expensive) to sack managers.
@@finding_aether A manager that can work with mid players? 😂 😆 Well, Olé tried to, but we both know how it ended
Man United should have bought Kim Min Jae instead of Mount.
Nobody knew both Shaw and Lisandro will be injured at the same time
Not that easy. The player needs to want to come to united, or we offer a rediculous amount of money, then he arrives overpriced pressure already to perform to said amount. A few dodgy games and waste of money. These players only come for payday. Would you go brighton doing well punching above weight( less money) or man utd big club struggling on big wages. P.s. the misses wants arndale centre, alderley edge boutique or a sunday on the brighton pier eating ice cream??
We needed a Defender not an attacking minded Midfielder.
Regardless of our current lineup of defenders we had to buy KMJ.
That's the problem with our recruitment we don't keep replacement ready.
When Jose Mourinho was in charge, he bought Matic and our DM position was good. He needed Defence but no good defenders we bought. Then he was Sacked.
Then came Ole Gunnar n then we bought Maguire, our defence improved but then we developed problems in Midfield we upgraded our Attacking Midfield with Bruno but not the defensive midfielder Ole insisted on Mcfred n was Sacked. For problems in that same position. If we would have bought Casemiro in Oles tenure we would have won a lot more than we did and same goes in the case of Jose Mourinho if we would have bought Maguire then he would have won a lot more too.
The same cycle keeps on going.
We need a solid defender now .. not Evans and Maguire and we need to replace Varane too.
Everything will work better if u have a solid defender.
I hope ETH gets a few more seasons because I trust if we give him more time n resources he will get us back wher we should be.
Your football content is so good. Keep it up
Very accurate, we dont have dynamic players, they cant play or react outside the directives Becuase the coach cant train you on every occurrence, you have to read vulnerabilities and exploit them...ans that's why they ball watch and expect wonders when they see a player trying to dazzle rather than make runs into spaces and pull defenders away.
A lot of this season has been bad luck, but also some of the bad luck stems from bad decisions.
Like the injury crisis started in pre-season, when after playing almost every available game, we decide in pre-season to play 8 games in a month, going back and forth across the states and across Europe, and a lot of our injuries happened in that space.
Also, we spent all of last season building a front 4 where the strikers job was to bring the other forwards into the game, we now have a different kind of striker and we need other forwards who can bring the striker into the game. And Antony, Rashford, even Bruno, aren’t really getting that enough. Instead taking shots on themselves, and sometimes that’s worked, but mostly it’s not.
Rashford is 30+ shots without a goal. Bad luck, except there’s also some of it that is the circumstances. He’s our main goal threat, he’s being marked by 2 men most of the time, and without a full back like Luke Shaw who makes really well timed overlapping and underlapping runs, alleviating the pressure, Rashford is less effective. Without someone like Martinez who will play a pass through the lines and into Rashfords feet, giving the defence less time to set up to mark him, Rashford is less effective.
And when somebody like City get injuries, it doesn’t really matter because they’ve got suitable backup in almost every position (Rodri being the main one that they don’t have a backup for). United want to sell players and see a turnover in the squad that would allow them to maintain the same style of football from last season. But because they haven’t sold players, they haven’t bought the right replacements, so when we get injuries the drop off isn’t just a technically worse player, or a mentally worse player, it’s a player who cannot do the same job, and the team either has to adjust the style of play to suit what’s on the pitch or allow those players to fail. The defensive line should be much higher to press teams with a more compact unit, but Maguire and Evans can’t defend on the halfway line like Martinez and Varane. They can’t play out from the back like Martinez and Varane either, so they sit deeper, leave more space, and they can only play big direct passes or small, ineffective passes that get bounced straight back. Maguire has been getting a little better, and that’s helped, but if you replace him with someone like Todibo, and replace Evans with someone like Lukeba, you’ve got a much more fitting unit to play how they want to play.
yeah, but half of first team was still on holidays during pre season and half of matches were played by youths. Injuries have just increasing. They clearly do something wrong training/rehab/recop department. Manu just got new head of sports medicine.. from arsenal who got injury crisis too couple years ago.
Its almost like they're quite good when faced with rather average opponents.
Wouldn't really call a Champions League-playing team "average opponents", especially not a team that almost held Bayern to a draw, had it not been for awful refereeing and one single moment of lack in concentration. Yeah, they're no prime Barca (although they managed to draw with that Barca team 1-1 in 2011), but give Copenhagen some respect.
Great analysis as always. Really hope you continue to feature on the channel after your holiday. You put out the best content - on ANY form of media.❤
Like Spurs, did they rehearse what to do if someone is sent off? I think not. That’s why the players were at sixes and sevens. The red card should not have been a problem as the player sent off was a striker.
I think it's also import to note the squad lacks fitness. I know they were down to 10 man but the 75th minute every single player on the pitch for United looked completely drained. With better fitness they would have been able to see out at least a draw.
13 mins of added time with 10 men makes sense they looked drained at 75th min
Brilliant summation.
I love this channel
It's a shame Ivan Perisic isn't 10 years younger as a winger of his profile would be perfect for United. Defensive nous and two footed crosses to serve Hojlund. Can also see why Ten Hag pursued De Jong so doggedly.
The funny thing is we won't sign him. We have poor scouting also.
Mourhino wanted perisic ages ago, board refused.
ETH, like many coaches, has his favourites. Unfortunately, most of those players have weak mentalities and are actually just average. Players can't pass, win second balls and they just have a huge lack of stepping up when needed qualities. Let's not even mention the ability to follow instructions when needed and combining it with reading the game so that you don't always stick to what was told to you but take initiative when you see a threat!!
Very good analysis I must say. One takeaway for me is that United have players that are not good. The narrative is that United are loaded with good players, but the truth is......some of them are and some are not. Not going to go into specific names but the video shows some of the decision making on the pitch are dubious and that's part of being a good footballer. It's just not dribbling, shooting, passing, etc. It's your understanding of the game. A Coach can instruct but a player has to play......and think. The thinking part is somewhat lacking at United. In the frantic heat of the game decisions have to be constantly made and some to this squad has shown repeatedly that the lack of good decisions is endemic. That's all on the players not on any manager or coach. And some of these players have been lacking in their decision making thru several managers. The players stay the same the Managers change. Ten Hag did brilliantly last year but he also must share some of the blame in some of his decisions this year. The record is proof. Injuries are a part of the game and what gets lost is the injuries that occurred last year which didn't prevent them from the successes they incurred. 3rd place finish, 2 cup finals, 1Trophy and CL.
The video shows how this season is deteriorating over a variety of things, not just one. Bad decision (in season and in the summer) by the Coach, the players, the front office, the game officials. Injuries, bad player selections, bad play by players, etc, etc.
United's predicament is a composite of many factors. The question is how to get out of it and to me the best thing Ten Hag can do is to concentrate his focus and the teams on preventing the alarming amount of goals given up. They have to stop leaking goals in order to get out of this mess. If it means parking the bus, then park the bus, if it means playing unattractive football, then play unattractive football. What ever it takes, that is the first objective.......STOP LEAKING GOALS.
All this stuff about pressing , transitional play, playing out from the back, yadda yadda, yadda. Don't mean a damn thing when the ship is leaking water and going down. The goals are the water that's sinking the ship and that has to be addressed. Last year their defense was 3rd best in the league in Goals Allowed and that included 3 beat downs by Liverpool, City, and Brentford to the tune of 17 goals in 3 games. Yet they still only gave up 43 goals, 10 less than City and Newcastle and the exact same as Arsenal.
Where they fell down on the job was in scoring goals . Their 58 was 8th best in the league. They won 7 games by 1-0 and 5 by 2-0. That was 12 of their 23 wins where they scored 2 goals or less. The point....last year was successful because of their defense, this year is a nightmare because of LACK of Defense. Yes, injuries have played a part but let's not put too much on the injuries, as they had several last year. Last year, Martinez was lost for the last 2 months of the year, Varane was in and out of the line up, Eriksen missed several games due to injuries as did Shaw and Malacia. Yet they still performed. Defense is the only way to start to get out of this mess and that is where Ten Hag has to focus these players.
The best and fairest analysis i ve seen in the media
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thank you adam, i didnt want to click on this but you spoke the truth, I'll stand by eth because i believe he has the mentality to carry us to the top
When Ten hag's pressing game doesn't work he doesn't have a clue what to do next, we can't play thorough teams, so it just becomes long ball. This game also highlights Ten hag's terrible game management, switch formation and make subs immediately after the red and it's probably an easy win. None of our midfielders know how to defend so if a team breaks press and gets at us really good chance they will score.
it also doesn't help whoever plays single pivot will be left alone alot, it's a suicide formartion and tactic that will never work consistently in the prem. Ten hag is lucky because if takeover was done he'd proabably be gone right now also I dunno why people keep talking about bad luck, when every single Utd win bar Forest is undeserve, we should be around 13th.
How was the Harry Maguire handball a bad decision? He's put his arms out on another player and stopped the ball from going through
to be honest, i dont think ten hag is the main problem for united, sure his decisions on who plays are weird but i feel like it is mainly the players faults. we need to back our manager and give them time. Arteta didnt have a good start at arsenal and now they are challenging for the league title.
Yup. Awful luck and off field circumstances. Poor results because of incoming players coming into a team ravaged by injury. That, in turn, affects confidence. Throw in some shit mentality and a lack of an organiser on pitch and you have the current situation.
There are however, green shoots of recovery. But fuck me do we need a run of games and a couple of big comfortable wins.
ETH in, but it's going to be a tough season.
Fear not. They're about to go on a long unbeaten run of form.
Your delusional mate
I believe it's getting better especially in attack
you say evans+maguire was bad choise by ETH but it was Varane who made mistakes and clearly was a reason why he was benched. IF... IF Evans had no injury...maybe we have won the game
Just wanna say we didn't recover the ball for the first goal , wasn't a transition moment, was a 28 pass sequence
Looking at what happened during the Luton game. Our front players lack confidence in the final third. Clearly lack clinicality and decision making on the ball.
The build-up play was superb.
High press absolutely sublime.
When asked to convert their chances however?!
'they make good decisions on the ball' 😂😂
As much as we can point to the players issue and the red card this is also on the manager, we went 2-0 up before the red card, ETH could had simply shut shop and let a draw be the worst outcome of the match, Rashford gets a red card, right or wrong, the decision halted our momentum and ETH should had brought in some one defensive minded to provide a barrier for the upcoming assault,
at this time we did not have a defensive midfielder on the pitch, our midfield was bruno erikson and mctom, we could have sacrificed one of them or garnacho and put in amrabat, this change was made after the half time break
when we got the lead again, eth had the chance to shut shop, people are not pointing this out but we made only 3 subs, 1 of them was a forced one due to injury to evans, we still had regulion and lindelof on the bench when the match finished, he took of hojlund at 3-3 and put in mason mount, how does these changes make any sense
at 2-0 he could have taken erikson and garnacho off, put in amrabat and lindelof, gone to a back 5 and just try to hold out the game, we cant control games with 11 on the pitch so there was no way we could had pressed and dictated the game with 10, look at the changes copenhagen made, they made changes depending on what was needed in the situation, we can blame the referee, var and the players, but the manage also has to be taken accountable, that was a terrible game management
He needs better ball playing defenders and a de jong profile midfielder aswell as a winger who can create and not greedy wingers who shoot first
Agree. Give it another transfer window or two, I think they get their guys in midfield right. His transfers so far have been good.
Would you have Ten Haag at the toon, Adam? I mean I like him. He’s very modern and philosophical. He can make good teams he’s proved it!
He would cook
@@elijahojo1286 Eh?
Let's hope this is a turning point. We lost due to being outnumbered. I agree we could have avoided the loss, but we move on.
So the caption picture for this is exactly what I was saying when that goal went in. My u10s team know to run out and close down why can’t these plebs do that?
It’s laziness and inability to want to play off the ball, ultimately not wanting to play for whatever reason. Chelsea game proved with players that want to play for him he can succeed
Don't tell me for a second a problem was not playing Anthony Martial, the ghost of a striker that he is.
At least he's a striker.
That's the point, ETH doesn't even use players in their best position.
He will play a Shaw at center back, Erikson at CDM, mctominy as a CAM, Mount as a ST, Fernandes as a RW.
He doesn't seem to care that players play best in their best positions.
I agree that Martial is a dog turd striker. But better that then no striker at all.
Martial would of done a bit better.
"just when you think theyve turned the corner"... have you watched them at all? 1-0 win over fulham isnt exactly much of a turning point. im all for it though, love watching them play its hilarious
All the fans who say Ten Hag has no tactics and just makes random decisions need to watch this. Why is Ten Hag stuck with players like Evans, Maguire, McTominay, Martial and other players who can only do the bare minimum? Yes, Ten Hag signed most players that he might have wanted but is he responsible for the amounts that they paid for these transfers. Surely the people above Ten Hag can identify cheaper and better signings who could do the same stuff that the players we signed do? Is the board still going for players who are more "marketable" or "valuable" in terms of commercial value? Mount would obviously sell more shirts compared to some less-known midfield signing? Same thing with Casemiro, Eriksen, Varane, Amrabat (targetting the Middle East market), etc
Adam you used quicker and Maguire in the same sentence. That must be a first. 🤔
ETH is an elite manager managing a relic of a club that needs to be dragged to modern times. They need to back the manager and build a sporting structure that overseas recruitment. It is unfortunate that Ralf Rangnick was ditched.
spot o to some extent with Erik's idea of player profiles... i think what's really hurting us is that these players lack the mental attitude to be a manchester united player... these guys arre too easily intimidated... once you're considered world class due to the commercial status and history of our club rival fans and players are gonna come at you with everything and sadly with all thats been happening around the club and within, seems the battle is more than lot of these players can handle
he really is
coaching by numbers isn't he?
bit of a robot, a numbers guy,
a trait notorious in most Dutch coaches!
it's bleeding obvious mate!
City could be the best transition team in the world ever..imagine giving Haaland, Alvarez, Foden space to counter. There is no point if you can’t defend, can’t hold onto the ball, can’t deny the opposition, can’t kill the game off. Transition football is fine but it’s dated everyone can do it. You’ve got to have more strings to your bow than just scoring, as odd as that sounds.
6:43 saying that the penalty decision is ridiculous is a ridiculous statement on its own. I can't believe ManU fans would at bought their center backs touch the ball with their hand and still say it's not a penaly
Year 2000
Britney Spears: Oops!...I Did It Again
Year 2023
Man U: Oops!...I Did It Again
Both are artists in their respective field 🤣
Martial couldn't have helped us bro. Currently Martial's form doesn't allow him to help us. The earlier we sell him the better
Glazers in! Give Ten Hag a contract extension. Love what they are doing. Manchester is blue.
Maguire used to be excellent at carrying ball forward 😮
Bring back De Gea he used to win games for us all on his own.
The manager is playing too many players that are useless off the ball. Why play Ericsson so deep? It's pointless. This manager won't last the season.
But united always tend to play well for the first 20 mins no? They seem cohesive, have good pressing shape, press well durinhg opposition goalkicks, but then they capitulate
Sell Antony / MaGuire & Rashford ASAP. Bad attitudes, it may make others think about being petulant. They NEED to back the manager. One of their biggest mistakes was choosing Prgba & his Twitter account over Jose Mourinho.
Glad u can admit that. Im NOT a man united fan and I was happy when u got rid of Jose because I feared he would bring u success. He was the most likely too. But your fans chose Pogba over the clubs. Idiots
United will never learn how many times we have been in that situation, and we let them opposition score. Our all matches we lost because we never press the to defend the opposition we just stand flat foot waiting I just don't know why and your defend.
I genuinely believe that the days of Manchester United being what it used to be are over, and I say this as a Man UNITED Fan, who came aboard in 2014-15.
The days of Wayne, Rooney, Cristiano, Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Paul Scholes, David, Beckham, Eric Cantona are over over. Players come to United now because we will pay them a lot of money, they get to wear the badge of some of the best and greatest legends of the game and dig around for a couple of seasons, taking the medias before moving onto a different club to try to get serious about winning.
You can’t rotate this managers in and out and continue to sell and buy and sell players over this period of time without looking at the very top of the tree and not focus on the one constant at the club that has not changed in 20+ years and has been the leading cause of United erosion and decay since Fergie retired
Pls make a video from barca
There's something psychologically very wrong with this team. Entitlement? Over paid? Too much player power? I won't blame the managers because we've had 5 managers in 10 years and only one player has survived despite being bang average for 10 years while earning 200k-300k per week. Not gonna name him but he has awful body language during matches with a passive aggressive behaviour and seems to be more concerned with his off the pitch charity programs than playing football consistently.
In my opinion from watching manchester united players on the pitch is that they never can get close to the opposing player to try to steal the ball they always run back to the goalkeeper or just stand off never close enough to even prevent a pass. Manchester city players always get so close to you so you cant even see the player you are trying to pass it to and because of that they will win all loose balls everytime and they get that close and still did not fowl a player.Why can't cant we get close instead of just standing off and running back to onana. Also i dont understand how we don't score set pieces its seems like we got a bunch of players and say to them i see that you play football come play for united you dont have to train just show up on match day.
Transition = we created a new word for a definition that we already had a word for.
There is no luck in football or life this team has no idea where the Are going
Copenhagen last year playede against a city side with 10 men no kdb no Halland and coudnt get more than 2 shots
But im happy as a copenhagen fan
Sad to se a great club fuck it up so badly
Long long time since you could call the club "great"
Interesting to hear from a copenhagen fan. I think Manchester is do blue now and won't go red again for years and years. City are another level. Good luck copenhagen, I hope u get second place now
Where do we find a jude bellingham clone? Is his brother just any good?
i missed this ADAM
Mentality 100%. We keep losing concentration when it goes well (conceding right after we scored) and especially when it doesn't - like the 2 goals right after the sending off.
This mentality thing didn't pass the test of a perfect shitstorm of:
- 2 abuse allegations
- Sancho fallout
- injuries
- club sale saga
- VAR going completely off the rail against us - we should be at least 7-8 goals up in goal difference in all comps!
And you can only do so much with it. Damn, not even the best counsel in the world would give a quick fix here.. We need things to quiet down and will come back eventually, but you can't really go after anyone but the senior leadership here. Erik won 50% of his games with the injuries that took Klopp to 29% win rate last season. And Klopp didn't have all the listed above to deal with. Ten Hag is the best manager in the world right now. He still manages to change the style from Ole ball to being the best counterpressing team in the world. He still manages to win games and have players play for him. You always have to see the perspective and I have never been so much ten Hag in as right now!
Transition? Wtf is he on about?
Get the core of the team sorted first.
I genuinely think eth trys, and the players are trying, but it's a team game, so everyone takes the 📉 and win
I think your right, but theres no trust between players. Example if a person overlaps there is no one to trust in order to fill that gap left by player. They all go for a ball (defenders) because no one trusts their fellow player to win it. Thus dragging ppl out of position. They have too work harder to give their teammate options, inorder for the player to gain that trust he will be in that spot(triangle) to recieve and go. Brighton are a good example of a team that has trust between players. Chose brighton because they have small budget.
Part of any players medical should be a full psychological and personality profile. We have some players who just cannot handle the pressure of playing for utd. The press destroyed Englands 'golden generation' if you remember. They just couldn't handle the pressure. The press are the same with utd, they are on you from the get go and social media makes it impossible to ignore. If you do not have the mental strength and character to deal with it you will be crushed by it. Sancho, Antony, Mount - are these strong personalities? Look at the difference between Harry for Utd and for England. From solid and reliable to a walking flop sweat with the weight of the world on his shoulders. It is going to take improved recruitment and targeting of the right mental as well as physical attributes. The best player in a position may not be right for utd, the third best with a warrior mentality may be. No more glamour signings, do the work, find the right targets. Rooney, Keane, Tevez, Ronaldo, Vidic, Stam, let these players be the guide.
aren't the players communicating on the pitch?
They're only there for the money, so why bother?
It is the corner, the norm is mediocrity...
Ten hag is the bigger problem,if a manager can't compromise during injury crisis he might as well Wear glasses and get a chair and call himself Tielsa
Midfield balance is wrong, resulting in United conceding way too many goals when they are counter-attacked: midfielders MUST get goal-side of the runners from deep; schoolboy stuff, really. Eriksen is not doing it and McTominay isn't doing it. Casemiro is better, but too often it looks like it's King Canute vs the tide. Bruno is in practice a shadow striker and McTominay is a box to box; this currently leaves Eriksen alone to either win possession/commit a tactical foul as Rodri does/intercept counter-attacking moves. You don't have to be a footballing Einstein to work out that Eriksen isn't a holding midfielder.
Short summary. Ten LASSO is clueless
I don't understand the personality Vs profile point...
Its all down to the greedy thieving owners💰💰💰This is what happens when you put a Banker in charge of the worlds biggest football club
We need Gore Hannibal and Mainoo and give them pitch time
Erikssen Mount mctm vdbeek should quit
So you are saying you know more than Mason Mount how to play football😂
Bruno Fernandez fails to track back and mark his man. I'm shocked
That's a rather elementary take on the situation. Even though they're at a numerical disadvantage, Scott should be tracking that player. Bruno had to play both AM and RW when Rashford was sent off. His tactical instructions made him the 3rd most advance player Utd had, there was no way he was reaching that man.
Hahaha Bruno is such a child man, it's laughable he leads any team
The problem is jelly beans players we need a player like Roy Keane
Being a transition team is not sustainable these days tbh
YOU, ADAM! You should manage Man United.
You are really good at tactical analysis. Be the one! Be the one to guide us back to glory!
It's too painfull to be an United fan right now
They're going from a team that can't be arsed to pick up midfield runners arriving on the edge, to a team that doesn't pick up players in the box. Hilarious
I'm not crying, you're crying😢
No no no its the red card, its var it is always something else it is never my team fault
ETH
I can feel it in my arse, these batardos wanted to play like barca
They are not good footballers Adam Clearly they are rubbish
Dalot is not a good footballer Denis Irwin was a good foot baller a great one that's we where we are at man some of them are good not all think your getting that one wrong....
Rooneeeeyy
The irony of it all is that ETH keeps falling out with the players who are actually capable of playing in the "ETH way"
Those bast*rds should just leave
ManU are so close to being a juggernaut again you can taste it.
The pundits are having their last gasp of criticism, trying to make everyone think the sky is falling.
Personally, I think they're about to go on a lengthy unbeaten run of form.
A couple questions to be asked:
1. Does anyone inside United notice these mistakes being made over and over?
2. Does Ten Hag coaches the team to defend properly?
3. Are the players being lazy, and not following instructions? Or they're not being given instructions on how to defend??
your analysis for the first 2 goals are perfectly proving that the red card really cost united this game, the area that was exploited by copenhagen no.9 was supposed to be rashford responsibility, mc tominay and fernandes can't track 2 oppositions players at the same time, should mctominay decide to close down no.9 he will left the central area open for the no,7, fernandes position was too far becase he's shadow-covering conpenhagen no.19 (i guess ?), the second goals was almost the same scenario. in short, those 2 goals are most probably wouldn't happen if rashford is still there.
there are many times united are deserving their lost and ten hag was rightfully criticize for the team's bad performance, this match aren't one of them.
I think you missed that the first Copenhagen goal should not have counted with an offside player completely blocking Onana from seeing the ball. Coupled with the soft red and free penalty, I think United collapsed under pressure. They shouldn't, but its hard when you have had a tough season and have 3 decisions in a row gifted to your opponents after playing your best football all season. Not an excuse but rather an acknowledgement that these players probably need respite from the constant negativity and bashing they get week in and week out.
They're starting to recover physically from the strain of nearly constant football for the past two years. That Winter world cup was awful.
They're getting better as other teams competing in multiple competitions are getting worn down.
Now is the time to stick with EtH.
Everyone remember, this is Copenhagen... At best a midtable championship team
The penalties were not ridiculous at all. It's PL league interpretations that is skewing your perception. In general, PL officiating standards are just bad, and when other league's differ, they're more than probably right.
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Now another glazers 2 jim is coming this club never will challenge for nothing another decade mid table im 😫 emd sick 😷 of this club for this clowns i have problem will my heart
Dalot and MAGUIRE is the problem of Manchester United
Rashford took a peek, then took an extra-long step to "accidentally" step on that guy's lower leg. Harsh red card my buttocks.
Any aggression from rashford is a step forward
That is an outrageous interpretation of reality.
Agreed. Doesn't even have to be deliberate, it's dangerous AF, but he knows he's coming too, and thinks fuck it move past the ball towards him
The red card was fine, he stepped on a leg above the ankle, bending it close to 90 degrees.
People who complain about the first hand ball penalty also need to recognize how much worse the second penalty is, given that Maguire heads the ball into his own hand before it hits the defender's.
You know the red card was because of the hand not leg .....😂
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Man Utd lost again. When they were getting hope again
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And laugh 😅