Rewarding Jimmy for his past contributions would GUARANTEE that Miami will not win a title in his era. The man ALREADY got paid. So if they're not going to win a title, why the hell would they hamstring the team for years to come? Jimmy makes almost $600,000 PER GAME. Let that sink in...The guy is one of only SIX players making $50 million. He is not even Top 25 in production anymore. As for Lillard, Riley did the right thing. He would have gutted the team for ANOTHER aging star that would NOT have made a difference.
Pat did the right thing with Lillard yes, but not making any significant moves at ALL? Pathetic and inexcusable. We aren’t keeping up with the East with this run it back type roster. Especially when he didn’t wanna pay Martin, Strus, or Vincent and let them all walk.
@@ICONOCLAST Miami offered Martin about 20 million more than Philly did. C'mon, get with the program. Vincent walked and he's been a BUST for the Lakers, averaging 4 points a game. Strus doesn't even start for the Cavs and is averaging only 8 points a game. Last year he averaged 12 points with the Cavs, which was his career high. I think Pat knows a little more about basketball than we do. Don't you think?
@@ICONOCLAST and more GMs should take note, the only ones still being able to sign those massive contracts are ones that probably give 50+% cashback, not for a moment I'll believe that rosters where 2-3 make 20-40mil and the rest make 1-2mil, that those 2-3 high payed ones are 10-20x better, there has to be something else going on, especially when you consider that the performance of those big signers usually drops down immediately and their career pivots the lebron path - longevity nonsense
It seems like mostly only younger guys are supporting Jimmy. The carefree young guys with minimal responsibility. There are hard times right now and Jimmy is talking about "getting his joy back". Id be more sympathetic if he were getting low-balled or screwed over somehow.
How insane would it be if this all got swept under the rug, and Jimmy just played the rest of his years in Miami. We all know how allergic Miami has been of trades, why stop now?
Riley right. Just because today's spoiled millionaire players want something does not mean you have to give them more cause they will always want MORE.
Sorry to see it , but Riley is right in this situation, Miami will need a couple of years to recover, Jimmy will not get championship in his life time.
I don't disagree but a pro athlete can only make this money playing for 10-15 years and then never again. I may not like it, but I don't blame them for trying to maximize their earnings as long as possible.
@@thebasketballhistorian3291I get that point too, but one year of vet minimum salary would literally change the average person’s life. Don’t quote me on this one but I’m pretty sure this current deal Jimmy’s on is already his 3rd contract after his rookie deal, and he’s seeking another max deal for the next three or so years. Like chuck said on tv, these dudes have already been fairly compensated. The fact is a 36-38 year old Jimmy Butler is not worth max money and the sooner he realizes that, the sooner he’ll “get his joy back” I believe
Pg shoots 33% from 3 has a 41% fg & a 52% ts he’s been abysmal this year jimmy clears him I don’t wanna hear about being two years younger Jimmy is worth it
the Heat don't mind that option of him leaving better than him opting in or taking beal's worse and longer contract. If he leaves after this szn that's 50m free cap space the heat can use to rebuild around Bam/Herro. The Miami heat are 6th seed while carrying a 50m deadweight player contributing nothing. Imagine if the money was spent on functional players helping the team.
With Tyler and Bam as two 20 PPG players (Bam if he wants to and enforces it) both outstanding in their roles as above league average, the Heat just have to wait 2-3 years to grab the superstar that carries them to a chip. Might be Luca, might be SGA, sooner than later the Heat will capitalize on their prestigious dynasty and the free cash from letting Jimmy walk. Pat Riley always plays the long game.
Not trying to sound like a Hassan Whiteside hater but Riley chose to pay him a bag when he hadn't done anything and let DWade walk when Wade should've been a Heat lifer. Not to mention if any other GM had been in Pat Riley's shoes they would've been fired now in the decade since Lebron left. Without Butler Miami is a perennial 6 seed or lower team that never makes it far in the playoffs for 10 years. If I'm Butler I want a good team around me, if you're not willing to do that then give me a bag but Riley can't have it both ways and I do believe JB doesn't expect he can have it both ways either. I don't wanna go down the what if road too much but I doubt JB is looking for a max extension if Riley spent the money to get pieces to contribute to playoff contention.
Exactly. But, I'm 100 percent sure it's the Arisons not wanting to pay Jimmy. When I look at Riley, he goes in and signs players who he think could help their team. How many times were the Heat front runners adding stars and elite role players? And how many times do they fail to sign them? They don't wanna pay them, don't wanna go into the luxury tax unless it's a guaranteed chip, which limits Riley's options.
The two situations can’t be compared imo. Wade definitely should’ve been a heat lifer, and he deserved getting his compensation after sacrificing for the big 3. Jimmy hasn’t sacrificed compensation or helped bring a championship to Miami, both things Wade did. Jimmy simply doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt that Wade did when he was past his prime
This is why LeBron left Miami to go back to Cleveland. He knew Pat wouldn’t pay to keep top talent around him and he decided to go to a franchise that would.
Hell no,Philly was dumb as hell for giving that bag to PG out of desperation.At 35 & no real trade value JB isn’t worth at this point.Riley ain’t gonna compound an idiotic move for his team because someone else did it first.
Imagine Pat Riley says fuck it sends Jimmy to NBA purgatory like Detroit or Washington knowing Jimmy will def decline his option but what happens next is that Jimmy gets no decent offers AT ALL cuz who tf would want a injury prone 36 year old who only appears for a guaranteed 28 games a season 50+ Mil for the next 4 years while being a absolute pissy diva if nothing goes his way and now he's forced to play on a minimum cuz no team was willing to give him a decent contract 😂😂😂 ngl that would be a fitting way for Butler's career to end as he has been bitching for so many years and in the end it bites him back in the ass cuz everyone had enough of his shit 😂😂😂
Peopel who side with Pat Riley or Jimmy are weird, Pat seems like a shitty boss to have to. Theyre individiuals you act as if you wouldnt be doing the same, looking out for yourself. Jimmy is still by far the best player on that team he should be doing whats best for him at this time
@@weswith360s This isnt HS basketball, its his career and work space. people are lying if they wouldn't do whats best for themselves and their families over their boss and coworkers. lets be real
No matter what angle you look at it, Jimmy butler is just a basketball player. He is replaceable - the team owner can exercise the right not pay him - that because of his behaviour. But that is not good for the business. So they opted to just simply trade him.
Let him walk and lose out on his money. He'll go get paid less and do nothing, then his career will be know only for how Miami made him a star but he couldn't take them farther because he wasn't a superstar.
the reason the heat didn’t win is pat riley thinking bam and herro were enough as second and third options. dude stopped making moves for stars after getting jimmy and an old kyle lowry. jimmy and spo pushed the heat to great heights despite underwhelming roster talent. pat never appreciates his stars. even dwade got treated poorly despite being the goat Heat
the right time to give a player a max contract is when they win the Championship.
NBA Players only get 2 max contract unless their a superstar.
Rewarding Jimmy for his past contributions would GUARANTEE that Miami will not win a title in his era. The man ALREADY got paid. So if they're not going to win a title, why the hell would they hamstring the team for years to come? Jimmy makes almost $600,000 PER GAME. Let that sink in...The guy is one of only SIX players making $50 million. He is not even Top 25 in production anymore. As for Lillard, Riley did the right thing. He would have gutted the team for ANOTHER aging star that would NOT have made a difference.
Thank you
Smart man
Pat did the right thing with Lillard yes, but not making any significant moves at ALL? Pathetic and inexcusable. We aren’t keeping up with the East with this run it back type roster. Especially when he didn’t wanna pay Martin, Strus, or Vincent and let them all walk.
@@ICONOCLAST Miami offered Martin about 20 million more than Philly did. C'mon, get with the program. Vincent walked and he's been a BUST for the Lakers, averaging 4 points a game. Strus doesn't even start for the Cavs and is averaging only 8 points a game. Last year he averaged 12 points with the Cavs, which was his career high. I think Pat knows a little more about basketball than we do. Don't you think?
@@ICONOCLAST and more GMs should take note, the only ones still being able to sign those massive contracts are ones that probably give 50+% cashback, not for a moment I'll believe that rosters where 2-3 make 20-40mil and the rest make 1-2mil, that those 2-3 high payed ones are 10-20x better, there has to be something else going on, especially when you consider that the performance of those big signers usually drops down immediately and their career pivots the lebron path - longevity nonsense
It seems like mostly only younger guys are supporting Jimmy. The carefree young guys with minimal responsibility. There are hard times right now and Jimmy is talking about "getting his joy back". Id be more sympathetic if he were getting low-balled or screwed over somehow.
Shaq, Bron, Wade couldn’t win against Pat 😂
Bron couldn't win as many rings as he promised.
"sometimes, nothing is better than something" considering the context, yeah, it's perfect.
If Pat didn’t cave to a prime LeBron what makes an old Jimmy think he can?
How insane would it be if this all got swept under the rug, and Jimmy just played the rest of his years in Miami. We all know how allergic Miami has been of trades, why stop now?
Riley right. Just because today's spoiled millionaire players want something does not mean you have to give them more cause they will always want MORE.
Sorry to see it , but Riley is right in this situation, Miami will need a couple of years to recover, Jimmy will not get championship in
his life time.
I don't disagree but a pro athlete can only make this money playing for 10-15 years and then never again.
I may not like it, but I don't blame them for trying to maximize their earnings as long as possible.
@@thebasketballhistorian3291I get that point too, but one year of vet minimum salary would literally change the average person’s life. Don’t quote me on this one but I’m pretty sure this current deal Jimmy’s on is already his 3rd contract after his rookie deal, and he’s seeking another max deal for the next three or so years. Like chuck said on tv, these dudes have already been fairly compensated. The fact is a 36-38 year old Jimmy Butler is not worth max money and the sooner he realizes that, the sooner he’ll “get his joy back” I believe
Butler has a PO for over 50M
If we wants to reject that and hit the open market, Pat will let him
Pg shoots 33% from 3 has a 41% fg & a 52% ts he’s been abysmal this year jimmy clears him I don’t wanna hear about being two years younger Jimmy is worth it
@jaynjones9136 PG’s contract is heavily considered a bad contract. What are you saying, the Heat should replicate that? Lol
The best choices are the hardest choices and are usually not the most popular choices.
Jimmy Butler perfect fit in Memphis, Nuggets, Phoenix or Warriors 🤔🧐🤨
he has a player option… he can just walk after the season, if i’m him i play out the season and walk on the heat leaving them with no return
the Heat don't mind that option of him leaving better than him opting in or taking beal's worse and longer contract. If he leaves after this szn that's 50m free cap space the heat can use to rebuild around Bam/Herro. The Miami heat are 6th seed while carrying a 50m deadweight player contributing nothing. Imagine if the money was spent on functional players helping the team.
This was the plan in the beginning of the season
Only problem is only bad Teams have cap space to sign jimmy out right . And those bad teams don’t want jimmy . They are rebuilding
Good let him walk he's 35 and they are not winning shit with him. Bron shaq and Wade all found out the hard way you DON'T PISS OFF PAT RILEY
A 36 year old asking for a contract of a 28 year old in a 12 year old behaviour
Plus he has no more hunger for playing and winning
Riley also sucks rn though. He surrounded Jimmy with overachieving G league level players. They can make deep runs but can never go over the hump.
Adebayo, Herro, and Jovic are ballers. If Butler came in every game tryna impact it, then they could look like the team they’re supposed to be.
Trade him to whatever team for future first round draft picks and a bag of peanuts.
Don't disrespect Jimmy like that bro.....u know he worth atleast two bag of peanuts
Jimmy Butler deserves this snub after all the hell he dragged his previous teams thru, don’t give this bum what he wants
Jimmy ain’t the answer but Pat still gon set the Heat back years.. lol
One of the reasons why LeBron left because he don't have the power there. He can't be LeGM.
With Tyler and Bam as two 20 PPG players (Bam if he wants to and enforces it) both outstanding in their roles as above league average, the Heat just have to wait 2-3 years to grab the superstar that carries them to a chip. Might be Luca, might be SGA, sooner than later the Heat will capitalize on their prestigious dynasty and the free cash from letting Jimmy walk. Pat Riley always plays the long game.
eric spoelstra will keep miami in the playoffs regardless who's in the team. they dont need to pay an old jimmy butler a max contract.
He should kept his mouth shut and opt out. Freedom of speech sometimes reflects stupidity.
If he leaves we can get a star this summer and win.a title .pat gonna pay 90 million
Not trying to sound like a Hassan Whiteside hater but Riley chose to pay him a bag when he hadn't done anything and let DWade walk when Wade should've been a Heat lifer. Not to mention if any other GM had been in Pat Riley's shoes they would've been fired now in the decade since Lebron left. Without Butler Miami is a perennial 6 seed or lower team that never makes it far in the playoffs for 10 years. If I'm Butler I want a good team around me, if you're not willing to do that then give me a bag but Riley can't have it both ways and I do believe JB doesn't expect he can have it both ways either. I don't wanna go down the what if road too much but I doubt JB is looking for a max extension if Riley spent the money to get pieces to contribute to playoff contention.
Exactly. But, I'm 100 percent sure it's the Arisons not wanting to pay Jimmy.
When I look at Riley, he goes in and signs players who he think could help their team. How many times were the Heat front runners adding stars and elite role players? And how many times do they fail to sign them?
They don't wanna pay them, don't wanna go into the luxury tax unless it's a guaranteed chip, which limits Riley's options.
The two situations can’t be compared imo. Wade definitely should’ve been a heat lifer, and he deserved getting his compensation after sacrificing for the big 3. Jimmy hasn’t sacrificed compensation or helped bring a championship to Miami, both things Wade did. Jimmy simply doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt that Wade did when he was past his prime
50 MILLION and he still complains wishing him the worst
Jimmy thinks he's above the game he's not and he was crazy when he did that rant in Minnesota
I have that caption the other way around
After this video he’s now definitely getting what he wants
He wants the bag badly and Pat is not giving an aging star the bag. Jimmy has a ego and is now becoming a diva.
@@tylerriley2587 I mean he’s getting traded
@HunchoAlejandro not anytime soon unless some absolute boneheaded gm trades for him.
@ mpj is not a bad return and throw in a pick or two, or jimmy to SAC. I hate phx, there team is souless, regardless of my love for kd
Is 18,5,5 a star?
This is why LeBron left Miami to go back to Cleveland. He knew Pat wouldn’t pay to keep top talent around him and he decided to go to a franchise that would.
You had me until "PG" is an elite shooter😂😂😂
PG entered free agency as a career 38.5% 3P shooter and shot 41.3% from deep last season on 8 3PA/game
dont put butler back into the line-up his going to screw it up
3:38 cough lebron cough
Rip
its the other way around. Pat has met his match , JIMMY !
Really ..
If PG can get a max with his 💩 track record and injury history.
Jimmy deserves a max as he has proved himself more reliable even at his age.
Jimmy got an injury history too so his not any better
@weswith360s yes indeed but he still gets to work when it's time.
Pg been healthy in playoff buts hasn't proven anything.
That’s why PG has passed Bradley Beal as the worst contracts in the nba . Sixers not making it past the 1st round the next four years of PG
Hell no,Philly was dumb as hell for giving that bag to PG out of desperation.At 35 & no real trade value JB isn’t worth at this point.Riley ain’t gonna compound an idiotic move for his team because someone else did it first.
Imagine Pat Riley says fuck it sends Jimmy to NBA purgatory like Detroit or Washington knowing Jimmy will def decline his option but what happens next is that Jimmy gets no decent offers AT ALL cuz who tf would want a injury prone 36 year old who only appears for a guaranteed 28 games a season 50+ Mil for the next 4 years while being a absolute pissy diva if nothing goes his way and now he's forced to play on a minimum cuz no team was willing to give him a decent contract 😂😂😂 ngl that would be a fitting way for Butler's career to end as he has been bitching for so many years and in the end it bites him back in the ass cuz everyone had enough of his shit 😂😂😂
Peopel who side with Pat Riley or Jimmy are weird, Pat seems like a shitty boss to have to. Theyre individiuals you act as if you wouldnt be doing the same, looking out for yourself. Jimmy is still by far the best player on that team he should be doing whats best for him at this time
@@francisco9679 He should've thought about that before he quit on his teammates
@@weswith360s This isnt HS basketball, its his career and work space. people are lying if they wouldn't do whats best for themselves and their families over their boss and coworkers. lets be real
the only place is detroit for tobias and tim hardaway 1 year rental
The Godfather, is right 👍🇺🇲
I hope no one sign jimmy and he get 5m 1 year contract..
No matter what angle you look at it, Jimmy butler is just a basketball player. He is replaceable - the team owner can exercise the right not pay him - that because of his behaviour. But that is not good for the business. So they opted to just simply trade him.
Let him walk and lose out on his money. He'll go get paid less and do nothing, then his career will be know only for how Miami made him a star but he couldn't take them farther because he wasn't a superstar.
the reason the heat didn’t win is pat riley thinking bam and herro were enough as second and third options. dude stopped making moves for stars after getting jimmy and an old kyle lowry. jimmy and spo pushed the heat to great heights despite underwhelming roster talent. pat never appreciates his stars. even dwade got treated poorly despite being the goat Heat
Jimmy Butler is nothing but a drama queen, just like his best buddy Neymar
Jimmy is a killer....
This take is going to age terribly. Especially if he get a playoff team.
jimmy is soon pushin 40 and injury prone he doesn't deserve 2 more years at 60m for almost winning.
why are people in the media blaming him asking a trade out of trash organisations the hell
You are an idiot if you think the Heat are a trash organization
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