The greatest thing about this is that it shows an actual evolution of LCARS and doesn't just ditch it for some holographic interface with no actual UX in mind.
I will NEVER forgive CBS for what they did to Stage 9. Which is why I am rather concerned for this project, because it looks good but I'm afraid it is inevitably going to get shut down.
@@Marinealver There isn't really a project here, the intent was just to release the video and some images on Artstation. If anything else comes of it, that'd be great, but that's not the plan at the moment.
The only way to counter CBS on that is to release geometry, materials, and textures under an open license such as creative commons, and take the heat. Once a CC licensed thing is out there, it can't be legally taken down unless they blanked bomb their fandom with C&D's and, even then, they'll never be able to fully take it away from the community. Ideally, one would do an anonymous release as, say, a torrent, and have a bunch of people mirroring it, so CBS would have nobody to blame for it (still, they can C&D the peers, but then, they may not be always on CCBS-friendly jurisdictions), although that would negate the ability to use it as a portfolio entry.
Thanks Doug! I did (just because I was curious) try a more matte-finish on the flooring, but to be honest, I prefer the way it was done originally - www.dropbox.com/s/sou2tv4rayrm95z/ScreenShot00001.jpg?dl=0
@@MessyDeskInteractive Cool! It works fine. What the matte version lacks is the cosmopolitan aesthetic of 30 Rockefeller Center. Not the art deco, but the monumental feeling of marble, inlaid details and indirect lighting.
Man this looks so good. The attention to detail. The quality. It shows the genuine love of sci-fi and the talent you all have for this. So impressed. Don't ever stop creating from your corner of the internet.
Hello I work the Galactic Allied Carpeting and Upholstery company and I can see you are in some extreme need of some Carpets - would you like to see out latest catalogue, I would recommend the beige tones.
My word you people work fast! I love the Stargazer set, the Sovereign and Galaxy DNA is clear to see and so refreshing in the modern Trek era of throwing the baby design out with the bathwater design. Your eye for detail is astonishing as ever. Well done. Is this not a little close to poking the tiger though? Tweet Dave Blass anyway, I'm certain he'd love it!
That was BRILLIANT. I could have sworn I was looking through a RED Camera on a steady cam rig. I know that was a TON of work that went into this. Well done!
I am so glad that they have implemented the lens flare control station on the main bridge. An essential starship function,😁😁 the fact that it is facing towards the control stations allows for precise pinpoint lens flaring as required!
Stunningly beautiful! I'll be excitedly waiting until 2023 to see what starship the TNG Cast will be getting together in space in for Star Trek: Picard Season 3. This Stargazer tour makes me feel a lot of demand craving for a true Shipboard video game experience...like a next generation version of Star Trek Online...with AI crew and systems, exploration, socializing, training, mini-games, RPG, and with battles as a minor element of gameplay.
Wow! You guys consistently blow me away with your awesome work! And this, really, if you had not said it was was cg I'd easily have thought you guys just took cameras and recorded the sets, its that good!
Great! Except for the 2 transparent monitors on either side of the bridge. I assume that they're designed to slit your throat or cut into your skulls when being thrown around during battle/aggressive maneuvers?
Amazing work I just I miss Stage 9 and I wish CBS would entertain giving your team a license your production quality is always outstanding. Maybe one day they will see it too.
Just what you need in a ship that can throw you about a bit - Shiny frictionless floors ready to break legs the moment a torpedo hits, or the ship's councillor takes the helm.
It's the one element of these new designs that just grates on me visually. The recreation here is wonderfully accurate, it's just a problem with the design itself as seen on all of the current shows. Bright lights and mirrored floors make no sense, and I have to imagine it's a pain for the cast and crew too.
@@RexDuglar I'm curious, since it's so seemingly a deliberate choice: why _is_ everything so shiny on all of these ships? Have they discussed this aspect with you? I always love reading about the thought process that goes into that sort artistic decision. Also, thank you so much for all of your contributions to Star Trek!
Simply stunning. I am at a loss for words. You have put more effort into this than the entire writing staff of Star Trek Picard _(Well, TBF, that would still be true if you had just drawn a free handed circle on a piece of paper but my praise of your work still remains the same)._ Absolutely beautiful work, bravo.
Very nice attention to detail. Looks just like the original. Although it would still look much more practical with a carpet, or simply more mate surfaces. I would like to see such version.
wow everything is so accurate and detailed in realistic quality did you recreate all the textures from screatch or get them from screen shotting the show? you really pay attention to detail well, this is so cinamatic it looks like im looking at the real thing ^_^ something like this wood have took me months to render in 3ds max on the computers i had lol
Hello mate! Hypothetically, if I have saved a copy of an old VR game made by you in UE4 circa 2018 and, hypothetically the game works wonderfully on Windows 10 but, hypothetically the same game crashes after a few seconds on Windows 11, what can I possibly do to get it to work properly on Windows 11? I can't live without that hypothetical old game. Have you faced any issues with Windows 11 on your recent projects? Any advice?
I'm honestly not sure. It's technically 'playable' right now, but without permission to release something interactive/explorable, it'd be unlikely to happen.
@@MessyDeskInteractive Maybe you've discussed it elsewhere but: What if it wasn't released as a stand-alone item, but as a mod/total conversion of a Unreal Engine 5 game?
@@davidl6558 Given our prior experience doing similar things, I expect we'd only do this (and believe me, we'd love to) if we had some sort of permission to go ahead. Once bitten twice shy and all that!
Sovereign Colors or TNG colors would be better. I know this is more accurate. but the overuse of shiny metal in this new stuff probably leads to headaches.
I haven't seen season 3, but I have seen the Stargazer on STTNG--at least the Bridge, anyway, and it looked nothing like this, and since STP is part of the Prime ST universe, they should have stuck with the original design.
Oops... doesn't match the Stargazer bridge as seen on TNG, "The Battle"... another part of the Kurtzman-verse", I guess... or, it's a refit... I haven't seen the episode...
It was designed as a new class of ships. Although the scriptwriters talk about it as a refit, which doesn't make that much sense. It was actually designed with help of the original Trek designers, so that's why it looks quite good. But they are still working for Kurtzman, and that is noticable even in that flashy look.
Much prefer the old, carpeted and softli lit from the classic shows. They looked cosy and are much nicer on the eye, these looks cold. Modern warships actually do have carpeted and comfortable interiors. Because they want the crew to feel like they aren't working in a prison and it reduces the noise from equipment/people, echos and footsteps when people are trying to sleep.
It's pretty sad that the Titan was basically the same set. Though I'm fine with the saving that money so they could put it somewhere it really mattered...
It depends on the hardware. It has a bunch of new features which make it a lot more efficient on newer generations of GPUs for sure. My personal experience is that it's smoother than UE4 yes.
Hi Scrag. About Britt's question.. UE5 is being designed around the idea that everything can be done better and more efficiently than it was in UE4. It's almost an internal competition using basically the same people. There are still some features like Lumen, Niagra, and Nanite that have yet to be revealed and will appear in future variations of the engine. Additional tech like MetaHuman will gain substantial improvements over time, and if features are used correctly then ue5 should outperform ue4 by 100-300%
Don't waste your time, you know Paramount and CBS will just C&D the project. Wait for Hollywood to go bankrupt or lose interest then see if you can bring back the old projects. As for now just let Star Trek fade away from the Poop Culture.
You did a great job but to be honest I am not a fan of the new Kelvin timeline they did I want things to back to the original evolution. Tos, Next Generation, DS9... The new makes things look so futuristic that is totally overwhelmed the Original Star Trek series that were already made. I only watch them because I'm a fan. But the new Klingons look like crap and have marbles in their mouths. The old ones to me were much more realistic and intimidating. Not to mention the ships were better because they were more rugged for a warror race. Sorry just have to vent. I would love to see another one of these with the original stargazer. You would bring us all back in time of our child years growing up glued to the non HD TV dreaming about finally getting one of those tablets they had.
Doesn't seem like a short side project. Nice model and graphics but Trek has lost its way. Dark and chaotic random styling, not the high minded vision of TNG. Hopefully the ETs will reveal themselves soon so we can see the real thing, not woke nightmare visions.
The greatest thing about this is that it shows an actual evolution of LCARS and doesn't just ditch it for some holographic interface with no actual UX in mind.
That's the truth : )
Incredible! Still upsets me about Stage 9. So would love to tour this ship, using the Unreal 5 engine. Awesome work as per. And that music!
Thanks! yeah Patrick really knocked it out the park with this one!
I will NEVER forgive CBS for what they did to Stage 9.
Which is why I am rather concerned for this project, because it looks good but I'm afraid it is inevitably going to get shut down.
@@Marinealver There isn't really a project here, the intent was just to release the video and some images on Artstation.
If anything else comes of it, that'd be great, but that's not the plan at the moment.
@@Marinealver Me too. I despise CBS for everything they've done to Trek and fan projects as a whole.
The only way to counter CBS on that is to release geometry, materials, and textures under an open license such as creative commons, and take the heat. Once a CC licensed thing is out there, it can't be legally taken down unless they blanked bomb their fandom with C&D's and, even then, they'll never be able to fully take it away from the community.
Ideally, one would do an anonymous release as, say, a torrent, and have a bunch of people mirroring it, so CBS would have nobody to blame for it (still, they can C&D the peers, but then, they may not be always on CCBS-friendly jurisdictions), although that would negate the ability to use it as a portfolio entry.
Great work! And no, the floors are NOT slippery in the slightest
Thanks Doug!
I did (just because I was curious) try a more matte-finish on the flooring, but to be honest, I prefer the way it was done originally - www.dropbox.com/s/sou2tv4rayrm95z/ScreenShot00001.jpg?dl=0
@@MessyDeskInteractive Cool! It works fine. What the matte version lacks is the cosmopolitan aesthetic of 30 Rockefeller Center. Not the art deco, but the monumental feeling of marble, inlaid details and indirect lighting.
Incredible. Congrats, Good Job!
We need this in VR.
Make it so!
Oh hell yes. My kid just bough an occulus. Would love to tour the ship even if it was only 3 rooms and a hall.
Man this looks so good. The attention to detail. The quality. It shows the genuine love of sci-fi and the talent you all have for this. So impressed. Don't ever stop creating from your corner of the internet.
Hello I work the Galactic Allied Carpeting and Upholstery company and I can see you are in some extreme need of some Carpets - would you like to see out latest catalogue, I would recommend the beige tones.
After we get the wood
I'd love to visit once your people have installed the carpets.
To bad your not in the Delta Quadrant.
My word you people work fast! I love the Stargazer set, the Sovereign and Galaxy DNA is clear to see and so refreshing in the modern Trek era of throwing the baby design out with the bathwater design.
Your eye for detail is astonishing as ever. Well done.
Is this not a little close to poking the tiger though?
Tweet Dave Blass anyway, I'm certain he'd love it!
That was BRILLIANT. I could have sworn I was looking through a RED Camera on a steady cam rig. I know that was a TON of work that went into this. Well done!
I'm not a fan of the ship (it looks like and awards show set) but as allways I'm in awe of haw fast and how screen accurate you guys can get.
Beautiful stick in some TNG beige and it's damn near perfect the current discovery aesthetic is a bit much....might just be the reflective flooring.
So that's what it looks like when you can see it :D. Excellent work
Incredible as always Scragnog. Just wow!
I am so glad that they have implemented the lens flare control station on the main bridge. An essential starship function,😁😁 the fact that it is facing towards the control stations allows for precise pinpoint lens flaring as required!
Stunningly beautiful! I'll be excitedly waiting until 2023 to see what starship the TNG Cast will be getting together in space in for Star Trek: Picard Season 3. This Stargazer tour makes me feel a lot of demand craving for a true Shipboard video game experience...like a next generation version of Star Trek Online...with AI crew and systems, exploration, socializing, training, mini-games, RPG, and with battles as a minor element of gameplay.
This is incredible
I love that it has light bulbs.
If only the shows writing had this level of quality! I'd actually watch it!
I wish I knew how to make cgi like this. absolutely amazing man...
Absolutely beautiful! Could you PLEASE upload a VR version of this video, like in the old days? Many thanks!
Awesome video. Just what I was looking for. Now what is that device in the opening shots on the ceiling. 00:10
Oh my.
Great work.
Wow, that ship is a thing of beauty. It actually looks like a real set. I legit thought it was made by the studio!
Fantastic work!! Stunning 🤩
Thanks!
Wow, this would make a great movie opening!
Wow! You guys consistently blow me away with your awesome work! And this, really, if you had not said it was was cg I'd easily have thought you guys just took cameras and recorded the sets, its that good!
The brigde model and the music are totally awesome! Great work which captures the spirit of Star Trek and the Picard series. Congratulations!
Great! Except for the 2 transparent monitors on either side of the bridge. I assume that they're designed to slit your throat or cut into your skulls when being thrown around during battle/aggressive maneuvers?
amazing
This is an impressive job.
Amazing work I just I miss Stage 9 and I wish CBS would entertain giving your team a license your production quality is always outstanding. Maybe one day they will see it too.
Just what you need in a ship that can throw you about a bit - Shiny frictionless floors ready to break legs the moment a torpedo hits, or the ship's councillor takes the helm.
It's the one element of these new designs that just grates on me visually. The recreation here is wonderfully accurate, it's just a problem with the design itself as seen on all of the current shows. Bright lights and mirrored floors make no sense, and I have to imagine it's a pain for the cast and crew too.
@@JosephDavies Not at all!
Not the slightest bit slippery. Take my word for it.
@@RexDuglar That's good to know.
@@RexDuglar I'm curious, since it's so seemingly a deliberate choice: why _is_ everything so shiny on all of these ships? Have they discussed this aspect with you? I always love reading about the thought process that goes into that sort artistic decision.
Also, thank you so much for all of your contributions to Star Trek!
Beautiful work!
Wow thats looking very amazing ! Come on guys, let us walk on that Ship O_O :P
Fantastic job
This is amazing.
If only you guys had the access to the Star Trek license, it would be a game to remember.
Simply stunning. I am at a loss for words.
You have put more effort into this than the entire writing staff of Star Trek Picard _(Well, TBF, that would still be true if you had just drawn a free handed circle on a piece of paper but my praise of your work still remains the same)._
Absolutely beautiful work, bravo.
Hey there. Can you please make an updated version for the Titan/Enterprise G?
Very nice attention to detail. Looks just like the original.
Although it would still look much more practical with a carpet, or simply more mate surfaces. I would like to see such version.
This is great.
wow everything is so accurate and detailed in realistic quality did you recreate all the textures from screatch or get them from screen shotting the show? you really pay attention to detail well, this is so cinamatic it looks like im looking at the real thing ^_^ something like this wood have took me months to render in 3ds max on the computers i had lol
Aye, she's a fine ship!
wow i actually thought this was real!!? like a tour of the set!
Just blows my mind that all of that is CGI
Hello mate! Hypothetically, if I have saved a copy of an old VR game made by you in UE4 circa 2018 and, hypothetically the game works wonderfully on Windows 10 but, hypothetically the same game crashes after a few seconds on Windows 11, what can I possibly do to get it to work properly on Windows 11? I can't live without that hypothetical old game. Have you faced any issues with Windows 11 on your recent projects? Any advice?
I can't wait for CBS to release their version!! Oh..wait..yea...🤷♂️😪😪😪
Proof with the lights on the interior of the ship looks better.
This looks amazing! Any chance it'll be playable some day?
I'm honestly not sure. It's technically 'playable' right now, but without permission to release something interactive/explorable, it'd be unlikely to happen.
@@MessyDeskInteractive Maybe you've discussed it elsewhere but: What if it wasn't released as a stand-alone item, but as a mod/total conversion of a Unreal Engine 5 game?
@@davidl6558 Given our prior experience doing similar things, I expect we'd only do this (and believe me, we'd love to) if we had some sort of permission to go ahead. Once bitten twice shy and all that!
@@MessyDeskInteractive Entirely understandable!
Not with CBS and Paramount still in business.
Sovereign Colors or TNG colors would be better. I know this is more accurate. but the overuse of shiny metal in this new stuff probably leads to headaches.
I wish ships like this were real.
If only CBS allowed public fan recreations
CBS needs to go BANKRUPT
(Same for Paramount).
Maybe Kurtzman could then get a real job.
Fan art (which is all this really is) are permitted as per their guidelines.
Do you think you could restart your work since cbs has new leadership
We're very busy with our Orville Fan Project right now which we're having great fun with, but you never know! Stranger things have happened!
@@MessyDeskInteractive will you be moving that project to ue5
@@MrBca009 When the time is right yes absolutely!
I haven't seen season 3, but I have seen the Stargazer on STTNG--at least the Bridge, anyway, and it looked nothing like this, and since STP is part of the Prime ST universe, they should have stuck with the original design.
Picard is nothing like TNG so it fits. TNG is good, Picard is trash.
The Stargazer in Picard isn't the same as in TNG. Its a new Stargazer.
Nice! is that using lumen in ue5?
It works great with Lumen, but this was rendered using the inbuilt Path Tracer to get the best possible image quality.
I miss the homely, less clinical, look of the galaxy class interiors... this is incredible work all the same
Oops... doesn't match the Stargazer bridge as seen on TNG, "The Battle"... another part of the Kurtzman-verse", I guess... or, it's a refit... I haven't seen the episode...
It was designed as a new class of ships. Although the scriptwriters talk about it as a refit, which doesn't make that much sense. It was actually designed with help of the original Trek designers, so that's why it looks quite good. But they are still working for Kurtzman, and that is noticable even in that flashy look.
Woooooooooooooooooooow
I like that bridge layout, but it looks a bit too elegant and sparce. I like some of the Sovereign-class bridge more than this one.
It's too shiny and bright.
If it was less metallic and lit better it would look a LOT better. it's a solid bridge and set design though.
Much prefer the old, carpeted and softli lit from the classic shows. They looked cosy and are much nicer on the eye, these looks cold.
Modern warships actually do have carpeted and comfortable interiors. Because they want the crew to feel like they aren't working in a prison and it reduces the noise from equipment/people, echos and footsteps when people are trying to sleep.
Could we see this with....... carpet? LOL!!
nice job! but what about the D?
Didn't you hear? It was destroyed at Veridian III.
@@MessyDeskInteractive great effort with the Stargazer. I hope that you guys are given the greenlight to resume your Enterprise D project.
@@mrdangerdave Never say never! We're having a lot of fun with our Orville Fan Project at the moment though 🙂
@@MessyDeskInteractive sadge...
@@MessyDeskInteractive Yeah, Veridian hit it really hard. After all that work and passion put into it, it wasn't very fair of Veridian. ;-)
good lord
Way too much glare and light reflections. It needs some carpeting to tone down all the lights. Otherwise, great rendered!
As usual, guys, you excel yourselves. This is great work!
Despite what they've done to the franchise, making it so repulsive and appalling.
No excuse for a proper star trek pc game now!
It's pretty sad that the Titan was basically the same set. Though I'm fine with the saving that money so they could put it somewhere it really mattered...
Is ue 5 faster than ue4
It depends on the hardware. It has a bunch of new features which make it a lot more efficient on newer generations of GPUs for sure. My personal experience is that it's smoother than UE4 yes.
Hi Scrag. About Britt's question..
UE5 is being designed around the idea that everything can be done better and more efficiently than it was in UE4. It's almost an internal competition using basically the same people.
There are still some features like Lumen, Niagra, and Nanite that have yet to be revealed and will appear in future variations of the engine. Additional tech like MetaHuman will gain substantial improvements over time, and if features are used correctly then ue5 should outperform ue4 by 100-300%
@@RahhmiPoofs good question
Don't waste your time, you know Paramount and CBS will just C&D the project.
Wait for Hollywood to go bankrupt or lose interest then see if you can bring back the old projects. As for now just let Star Trek fade away from the Poop Culture.
Can we download this ?
Wow! Just WOW! Good job on this but as bridges go.. still like voyagers..
The only criticism I can do is that all surfaces are too shiny. That looks quite unreal and annoying to the crew.
You did a great job but to be honest I am not a fan of the new Kelvin timeline they did I want things to back to the original evolution. Tos, Next Generation, DS9... The new makes things look so futuristic that is totally overwhelmed the Original Star Trek series that were already made. I only watch them because I'm a fan. But the new Klingons look like crap and have marbles in their mouths. The old ones to me were much more realistic and intimidating. Not to mention the ships were better because they were more rugged for a warror race. Sorry just have to vent. I would love to see another one of these with the original stargazer. You would bring us all back in time of our child years growing up glued to the non HD TV dreaming about finally getting one of those tablets they had.
I want to see the sketchup file so bad haha. Or how this was modeled.
All the money spent on visuals and nothing on substance.
Doesn't seem like a short side project. Nice model and graphics but Trek has lost its way. Dark and chaotic random styling, not the high minded vision of TNG. Hopefully the ETs will reveal themselves soon so we can see the real thing, not woke nightmare visions.