Yep and now is spreading all the videos games no companies don’t care about players only costumers open loot boxes or battle pass keep spending and we stuck the cycle.
One similarity between Counter-Strike and Apex Legends is that they both run on the Source engine. CS upgraded theirs. Apex is probably stuck since they forked the engine and made their own developments, but the legacy codebase remains as evidenced on the Save Titanfall hack. At one point, a major patch would have made the game unplayable for weeks. While people blamed the servers, I don't think this would have happened if the code was optimized. I think Respawn will eventually need to rewrite their engine, either upgrading it to Source 2, change their engine, or completely remove the legacy Source codebase, but this will also remove Apex Legends unique movement tech from source engine bugs.
@@skillbomb8823 You're both right and wrong, the mobile version uses Unreal 4. The PC version uses Source. If you Google "What engine does apex use" Google will show UE4, but if you look at the referenced wiki page it will specify that it's for the mobile version.
I feel like Singleplayer games and co-op games are becoming, or will become the main game people play because cheating it getting out of hand in all sorts of games because people are just degenerates.
I just turned 37 yesterday. I played my first game of CS1.6 in 2000. I played FPS games like CS:GO and Apex for over 20 years, and loved it. I played my last FPS round at some point in 2020 because the cheating problem was so widespread and ubiquitous. Multi player FPS games are dead. Cheaters killed the genre. GGs
Yeah, as you said its probably just a handful of people and not something that most players will ever end up experiencing. As for the cheater problem, I started playing apex in S17 and currently have almost 800 hours and have only experienced cheating (not including configs) four times, two of which were back-to-back at 4am on EU servers. I might just be lucky, but I've never found it to be as much of an issue as people make it out to be as it seems to only effect people who are incredibly good at the game or incredibly bad at the game.
@huthunterhutno it’s just the fact that closet cheating is rampant and the fact he’s only seen 4 in 800 hours of gameplay means 1. He’s unaware Or 2. He’s playing with his eyes closed
We all kinda want the cheating to stop but in the end, we can see the devs are not doing anything about it through out all of the season. So please hackers, please keep exploiting it and make them work until you cant hack apex anymore xD
As said in the video this is likely a fringe case where someone with both thousands of hours of knowledge and dollars of equipment is devoting all their time to cause as much damage as possible. Its also plausible that they obtained admin access to player accounts and can use it to manipulate their ingame currency, stats, etc. This issue specifically seems more like the combined failure of not only respawn but also EA and EAC that hopefully nobody else has the knowledge or money to abuse.
Please shed some light on the cheater situation with Rainbow Six Siege. Coverage on it has died down for about a month now but it remains a serious problem the game has had for a few years now. Could be worth looking into.
FPS game companies sell cheats 3rd party, they make more money selling cheats than the game itself, Valve CS has been selling cheats 3rd party for 25+ years.
So the only question I have is how can someone have hundreds of bots queueing at the same time without having to have extra PCs and extra copies of the game?
as AI improves uncontrollably, and we keep thinking humanity is progressing as aresult, cheating in apex will get worse as well. unless you want to deny it to feel better now
Ya know I hate cheaters who cheat to win but man I do love spectating the ones having the time of there life lmao I always think of riding on a hover board in fortnight while sniping the entire lobby
this is legit scary as helll i had valk literllay hunt me down and i saw she was tracking me through the wall like she never missed and her bullets bent ack when she was facing forward like THE FUCK ARE THESE CHEATS
Bro rainbow six siege has been having this problem where I get kicked from ranked and then when I try to reconnect it says disconnected from servers even though we’re not disconnected when we hit reconnect. Has happened 4 times total to me and my friends so far in the past 2 weeks.
When cs 2 just came out I had a game where our team gone 6:0 and then we lag out and there's no reconnect button and this match never appeared in replays and leetify. Although I'm not really sure that was a cheat and not a bug.
PC gaming for FPS games sucks. Literally the worst thing for FPS was going to PC. Pay to win games full of hackers with little skill gaps. Shooting at 240 frames is too easy
Lol we hear the same shit in EFT community. "Cheats are ruining the game and BSG doesnt care". Remember kids, these aren't hot takes. They are brain dead ones and people are laughing at you. Why? Because we all know the developers of games want their games to die so their income goes away.
in lockdown i cheated so hard with 2 others 1 stack in apex legends we reached in 2 weeks top 100 preds we made 4x char double pred badges . and sold them man i miss those times cheating with the wingman & eva8 clipping ppl for months without any problem even boosting ppl for moniess xD
Real profiles with real info and 1 profile only pr game, If you cheat you get a big fine and game banned for life, Only way to get these weak ass fakers out of gaming.
Dude, if I saw a swarm of like 20-40 bots all relentlessly chasing after me and me specifically I'd be scared shitless.
the swarm is coming
the swarm is coming
the swarm is coming
the swarm is coming
the swarm is coming
This was the reason why hong kong server was filled with bots that just stands around using melee, tactical and ultimate. They were learning there.
Asian servers are the breeding/testing grounds for cheats in all games. Once they are ready they move to their target servers.
Is there a video of this you're speaking off?
apex becoming a horde shooter was definitely not a thing i expected to happen this year
cheaters are at least giving us some form of content that isn't BR slop or micro transactions 😭
Tf2 moment but less aimbot
Yep and now is spreading all the videos games no companies don’t care about players only costumers open loot boxes or battle pass keep spending and we stuck the cycle.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
One similarity between Counter-Strike and Apex Legends is that they both run on the Source engine. CS upgraded theirs. Apex is probably stuck since they forked the engine and made their own developments, but the legacy codebase remains as evidenced on the Save Titanfall hack. At one point, a major patch would have made the game unplayable for weeks. While people blamed the servers, I don't think this would have happened if the code was optimized.
I think Respawn will eventually need to rewrite their engine, either upgrading it to Source 2, change their engine, or completely remove the legacy Source codebase, but this will also remove Apex Legends unique movement tech from source engine bugs.
Games like Diabotical specifically reimplemented Quake engine bugs related to movement. Bugs are just code, they can be ported to a different engine.
Where can I find that Apex runs on Source? Everything I look up says Unreal Engine 4...
@@skillbomb8823 You're both right and wrong, the mobile version uses Unreal 4. The PC version uses Source. If you Google "What engine does apex use" Google will show UE4, but if you look at the referenced wiki page it will specify that it's for the mobile version.
Probably source engine
That's the reason why CS2 is terrible rn
Cheating Zombie Bots sounds like a fun enemy in a single player FPS tho!
Oh man, watching this after the same guy crashed the ALGS is wild.
Happens when your anti cheat is literally named Easy
Zombie mode in Apex? Got to try it out now
Finally fight and fright is back
I feel like Singleplayer games and co-op games are becoming, or will become the main game people play because cheating it getting out of hand in all sorts of games because people are just degenerates.
I just turned 37 yesterday. I played my first game of CS1.6 in 2000. I played FPS games like CS:GO and Apex for over 20 years, and loved it. I played my last FPS round at some point in 2020 because the cheating problem was so widespread and ubiquitous. Multi player FPS games are dead. Cheaters killed the genre. GGs
Why not just play on console? I haven't seen a single cheater on ps4/ps5 in all my years playing it.
Honestly this kinda looks like a fun gamemode if it was official.
Yeah, as you said its probably just a handful of people and not something that most players will ever end up experiencing. As for the cheater problem, I started playing apex in S17 and currently have almost 800 hours and have only experienced cheating (not including configs) four times, two of which were back-to-back at 4am on EU servers. I might just be lucky, but I've never found it to be as much of an issue as people make it out to be as it seems to only effect people who are incredibly good at the game or incredibly bad at the game.
You lack awareness then.
@huthunterhutno it’s just the fact that closet cheating is rampant and the fact he’s only seen 4 in 800 hours of gameplay means 1. He’s unaware
Or 2. He’s playing with his eyes closed
It's the case with a lot of videos games. People will cry about cheaters when in reality the person crying is just bad.
@@thee-sportspantheon330or the reality there's just cheaters lol works both ways Poindexter
The reality is, if u don't experience cheaters on FPS games, u probably aren't a high rank. Hours played is irrelevant
Game turned into Left 4 Dead 😂
Cod zombie mode in apex be like:
not sure if it’s just me but it seems like more multiplayer games are getting an influx of cheaters. what a sad state we’re in
Timestamps: (I've been busy, sorry for missing a video)
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End: 5:58
We all kinda want the cheating to stop but in the end, we can see the devs are not doing anything about it through out all of the season. So please hackers, please keep exploiting it and make them work until you cant hack apex anymore xD
An anticheat that cannot “see” a char moving faster than it should, or firing faster than the wep rpm. 😵💫😵💫😵💫
I wish they develop camera speeds lol
Destroyer2009 madlad. what a fucking chad move for exposing ea
reaching out to respawn about cheaters and not getting a response is actually a classic move
This doesn’t even shock me, every EA MP game has horrible anti cheat and hacking issues.
Apex Zombies should be a mode I guess
Well if Respawn seen this cheat, maybe they could come up with PvE mode. 20 - 40 bots running to you seems like Revenant would do
As said in the video this is likely a fringe case where someone with both thousands of hours of knowledge and dollars of equipment is devoting all their time to cause as much damage as possible. Its also plausible that they obtained admin access to player accounts and can use it to manipulate their ingame currency, stats, etc. This issue specifically seems more like the combined failure of not only respawn but also EA and EAC that hopefully nobody else has the knowledge or money to abuse.
cs2 casual: hacker filled the room with bots and the bots will kick u out
Apex isn't the only game dealing with cheaters. CS, Overwatch, CoD, Siege, Pubg, Halo, etc
It's like a "forsen experience" cheat
that leafs hat is dope
Please shed some light on the cheater situation with Rainbow Six Siege. Coverage on it has died down for about a month now but it remains a serious problem the game has had for a few years now. Could be worth looking into.
thank god this stuf isnt happening in algs. That would be crazy.
Similar cheat in cod last year. Guy named black magic had an army of AI bots all with aim hacks 🤣🤣
FPS game companies sell cheats 3rd party, they make more money selling cheats than the game itself, Valve CS has been selling cheats 3rd party for 25+ years.
They should look at it and add it to their LTM list during Halloween.
Team fortress 2. Im just saying the new wave of bots is flooding TF2 but i didnt expect Apex to be..... fucked?
Every now and then, it's kinda hilarious
So the only question I have is how can someone have hundreds of bots queueing at the same time without having to have extra PCs and extra copies of the game?
virtual machines, hacking other pcs and running virtual machines on them, my assumption. not really sure 😅
@@iHimez I'm not gonna try to think to hard on it XD
Ngl the most fun I had in Apex recently was creating a hoard mode in the training lobby. Apex could be a FIRE hoard shooter
hacks in apex is so much more creative, like making semi weapon into full auto weapon, etc
They fr turned Apex into a PvE gamemode lmao
I was thinking about trying apex again... looks like I'm not going to.
its basicly the revenant event all over again lol
another year, another video about cheaters in Apex.
The Problem is not the cheaters but the game devs 99% of these game devs don't secure their code
Find them and sue them. Best approach in my opinion.
Skynet is literally taking over esports. Now every game is unplayable. Even AI can make really unbeatable cheats. My gawd.
YEAAAHHHH LEMME GET THAT 4K BADGE NOWWWWW 😂
as AI improves uncontrollably, and we keep thinking humanity is progressing as aresult, cheating in apex will get worse as well. unless you want to deny it to feel better now
Ya know I hate cheaters who cheat to win but man I do love spectating the ones having the time of there life lmao I always think of riding on a hover board in fortnight while sniping the entire lobby
Thanks for reminding me why I quit this game 6 months after its launch
Honestly, if apex made a hirde game mode it’d be really fun. Kind of like the Halloween event, but more people.
This is basically L4D in Apex
this is legit scary as helll i had valk literllay hunt me down and i saw she was tracking me through the wall like she never missed and her bullets bent ack when she was facing forward like THE FUCK ARE THESE CHEATS
Left 4 Dead 3 is looking pretty good! Surprised they chose to go battle royale with it tho 😂
This is why I stopped playing a while ago
To me, this has absolutely nothing to do with AI and I'm not sure why you mentioned it. What role specifically do you think that AI played in this?
These Zombie bots reminds me of anytime Forsen plays PUBG or any games with Battle Royale Features
"Action is coming" *muffled eurobeat from the distance*
I love people screaming at developers for people cheating like the devs are just like "nah its cool"
Im surpreised they didnt five the bot horde guns
This is Apex's OMEGATRONIC
ngl this could be a fun game mode if u have 5 mins loot time and 3 mins breathe time every wave
they have not responded because there is no anti-cheat team at respawn
holy hell that thumnail is impossible to look at
Ngl, this looks kinda fun. It’s like the Revenant mode on steroids.
Bro rainbow six siege has been having this problem where I get kicked from ranked and then when I try to reconnect it says disconnected from servers even though we’re not disconnected when we hit reconnect. Has happened 4 times total to me and my friends so far in the past 2 weeks.
When cs 2 just came out I had a game where our team gone 6:0 and then we lag out and there's no reconnect button and this match never appeared in replays and leetify. Although I'm not really sure that was a cheat and not a bug.
@@ViktorKozh oof
i hope a game mode comes out of this
Is there some secret coordinated campaign going on to destroy multiplayer gaming altogether?
kinda looks fun tbh. the zombie swarm thing, apex movement could lead to a really cool swarm type game mode fr.
the cheating is pretty stinky though
If you play an fps, you have to accept that you will play against cheaters.
This is why i have 8 PCs in my game room, i play offline over LAN with friends. No cheating.
Oh no, cheaters are destroying cheaters. Oh well.
COD engine for BO6 is same as MW = same code for modders
We need a BR with tons of zombies
On the plus side, at least these bots can be farmed for easy wins?
PC gaming for FPS games sucks. Literally the worst thing for FPS was going to PC. Pay to win games full of hackers with little skill gaps. Shooting at 240 frames is too easy
This could be a new game type.
Cheater: *sending zombie hordes*
Zombie veterans: this is too easy..
Is this just againts streamer bcs i dont experience this
Ironically this looks like a really cool game mode. They should just hire the guy who made this hack.
the TF|2 and TF2 communities gives their condolences.
this is actually pretty funny
Since s20, 9 games on 10 are just unplayable.
Honestly I got a good laugh from this when I first saw it
I mean.. Free 20k bomb😂
Oh boy, Apex my beloved XDDD
I actually think hacker vs hacker is the future of esports. That was the most fun I’ve ever had watching apex.
if they turned that into a game mode for apex id actually play it
This won’t be a problem in season 20, zombie bots=free rp
I'm not gonna lie, watching cheaters fight is way more entertaining to me than pro play
im up for a pve "bot" horde shooter in the titanfall universe
WHY ISN'T THIS A FEATURED GAME MODE IN APEX ALREADY??? I'D ACTUALLY PLAY IT.
If this is what respawn has been doing, I’m glad Titanfall 3 didn’t get made…
Bots? Like in tf2
Lol we hear the same shit in EFT community. "Cheats are ruining the game and BSG doesnt care". Remember kids, these aren't hot takes. They are brain dead ones and people are laughing at you. Why? Because we all know the developers of games want their games to die so their income goes away.
Exactly this. I don't get it how braindead some people are.
It's pretty cool developers have started adding a Forsen mode to their games.
Dont forget that the hacker sent the streamers thousands of cases 😄
Average forsen PUBG lobby LULE
So what streamers deserves it....
Aw man, a third nickel.
in lockdown i cheated so hard with 2 others 1 stack in apex legends we reached in 2 weeks top 100 preds we made 4x char double pred badges . and sold them man i miss those times cheating with the wingman & eva8 clipping ppl for months without any problem even boosting ppl for moniess xD
Real profiles with real info and 1 profile only pr game, If you cheat you get a big fine and game banned for life, Only way to get these weak ass fakers out of gaming.
Do they have kernel lvl anticheat or not?