Great presentation, Timothee! Been following your stuff for about a year, as I've just found it, but going back and seeing other articles and research. Very good. Very sound. Very obvious. I like the clear diagram of what capitalism is and what a new "sustainability-wellbeing-ism" system would look like. You are absolutely right, we need to measure concrete objectives that we actually want to achieve and forget GDP. Nobody will care about GDP in 100 years - IF we make it that far - because GDP and infinite growth is clearly not sustainable. Let's move in a new direction. I really like the ecological luxury that can come from a Library Socialism-style development, especially for high income nations, like Canada, USA, EU, etc. which already have produced a lot of stuff, but distribution is poorly done. Bring back the 'commons' and then everybody can access what they need with less ecological damage required to create that.
My opinion/suggestion on this topic remains the same as it has been for the last 5 or 6 years, you've heard it before: (a) pick a country, (b) develop a full post-growth- / degrowth-based macroeconomic policy with a proper set of roadmaps, projects and indicators for the targeted country, (c) run for x years this policy on multiple different economic simulation engines/tools that, regardless of their flaws, are 'accepted' by the economics 'mainstream', and (d) hopefully show them in their own simulation/tool 'comfort-zone' that your proposals can actually work in 'their' 'real' world. Of course, you know better about the flaws of their models and tools, and how this all permeates their advice and decisions, but for ideas to breakthrough this wall, it will have to come in their format first. And from there, adjust. Basically, gently say "here comes the aeroplane" while you feed the kid the broccoli. You get my point. And you know how to use system dynamics. It is a lot of work, yes, but I think here lies the bridge between talking about it and starting to move the needle, of going practical. Best wishes.
Capitalism is going the way of the dodo bird, but it is taking down much of society and our ecology, in flames. Maybe you are a fan of brutal economic dictatorships that put profit over people and well-being? But that's not the opinion of billions of people around the world. I'm sorry to say your statement here lacks imagination and the kind of research that Timothee has done to understand the problem and solutions to move beyond capitalism. There is that old saying, "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism," it seems you might be in that boat.
Great presentation, Timothee! Been following your stuff for about a year, as I've just found it, but going back and seeing other articles and research. Very good. Very sound. Very obvious.
I like the clear diagram of what capitalism is and what a new "sustainability-wellbeing-ism" system would look like. You are absolutely right, we need to measure concrete objectives that we actually want to achieve and forget GDP. Nobody will care about GDP in 100 years - IF we make it that far - because GDP and infinite growth is clearly not sustainable.
Let's move in a new direction. I really like the ecological luxury that can come from a Library Socialism-style development, especially for high income nations, like Canada, USA, EU, etc. which already have produced a lot of stuff, but distribution is poorly done. Bring back the 'commons' and then everybody can access what they need with less ecological damage required to create that.
My opinion/suggestion on this topic remains the same as it has been for the last 5 or 6 years, you've heard it before: (a) pick a country, (b) develop a full post-growth- / degrowth-based macroeconomic policy with a proper set of roadmaps, projects and indicators for the targeted country, (c) run for x years this policy on multiple different economic simulation engines/tools that, regardless of their flaws, are 'accepted' by the economics 'mainstream', and (d) hopefully show them in their own simulation/tool 'comfort-zone' that your proposals can actually work in 'their' 'real' world. Of course, you know better about the flaws of their models and tools, and how this all permeates their advice and decisions, but for ideas to breakthrough this wall, it will have to come in their format first. And from there, adjust. Basically, gently say "here comes the aeroplane" while you feed the kid the broccoli. You get my point. And you know how to use system dynamics. It is a lot of work, yes, but I think here lies the bridge between talking about it and starting to move the needle, of going practical. Best wishes.
Dommage que ce ne soit pas en français!
19:25 "What does that have to do with capitalism?"
Capitalism isn't going anywhere. That's non-negotiable.
Capitalism is going the way of the dodo bird, but it is taking down much of society and our ecology, in flames. Maybe you are a fan of brutal economic dictatorships that put profit over people and well-being? But that's not the opinion of billions of people around the world.
I'm sorry to say your statement here lacks imagination and the kind of research that Timothee has done to understand the problem and solutions to move beyond capitalism.
There is that old saying, "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism," it seems you might be in that boat.