He is correct about reading Orthodoxy for the first time, i've nearly rewrote the first 3 chapters in my notebook. Looking forward to my 3rd time reading through the book. Its funny how things work out- Sam Harris sent me to Peterson, Peterson to Lewis and Lewis to Chesterton. Thanks for the talk.
It's a ridiculously brilliant book, faith or not. A real modern masterpiece. Mind-blowing for me anyway, and a real shot in the heart. It's an heroic piece of writing, even if you cannot after all follow him so far as believing Christianity. I don't know if I can, but I love this book, and his writings generally. Reading this and Chesterton for the first time was a major event in my life, spiritually and intellectually. It's such a fantastically well-written and argued work. It's dazzling literature, whether or not you agree with his arguments. Sheer genius.
labrynianrebel That's just it, in the case of Chesterton. He is a mind-boggling genius but you cannot help but feel he is biased where Christianity, the Church and the Middle Ages are concerned. He more than anybody squeezes everything worthwhile out of them but he does seem to go to far. But simply for the Ballad of the White Horse, the great poem about Alfred, the man is immortal as far as English literature goes.
+Ishmael Forester Yes, and do you know that the massive Norton Anthology of English Literature could not make a place for even a couple pages of GKC's best writings? The editors have found space for so many writers who mattered little to this world in their lifetimes and barely have any significance to anyone now. There is room for muddleheads and addledheads of many species apparently, but for GKC, the brilliant author of so many works in prose and poetry, not a word.
+Joseph Campagnolo No, I had no idea. Frankly, I'm disgusted by the fact The Ballad of the White Horse is not in there. I cannot imagine a more pivotal or important masterpiece of English literature. But it's their loss and shame. Obviously time will tell with Chesterton. I expect him to be appreciated more in the next generation than ours or the last, as every true great. Fashions pass, but genius is eternal.
+Ishmael Forester I mean, perhaps it was too Christian or something? Not modern enough? Then you remember Churchill ended his victory speech in 1945 by advising that Parliament visit their Chapel and pray.
This is so helpful. I'm reading it now as part of my personal study plan and i keep flipping back and rereading. I'm also doing the audio book when I walk around town.
Although I live in New York City (lived in Bay Area for 3 years to be counted in) and have reached only the first reading of Orthodoxy, I have subscribed. Thank you, I look forward to the 2nd part. - 6/15/2022
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Another way of explaining paradox is the goldilocks principle. Too hot too cold and just right. It applies to understanding the incarnation as well as porridge
I love Dale’s presentation style. He is full of so much joy and pleasure, as if he is always ready to laugh. Like he finds infinite enjoyment in the world of Chesterton.
Excellent video! I’m grateful for having been able to see past my doubts and giving this video a go, and whoah! The content was exquisite and the delivery was superb. Thank you. 👍 👍
GK Chesterton's Orthodoxy is the book that lit me up for Christianity, and led me to listen to the entire Bible and countless sermons. Edit: I don't like Roman Catholicism at all, but I love this book.
I wonder, if he were around today, if he would still believe in democracy. Not the universal democracy (including both the living and the dead); but that democracy practiced in such places as the U.S.A.
Democracies have become secular and materialistic. The Western democracies are turning away from God, and their Christian tradition. Think European Union. Doesn't sound like Chesterton to me. I don't know about V2: but, certainly, he would have seen CLEARLY the nuttiness of the 'spirit of V2'.
The west has been secular for some time. Now just as then, he would blame the people themselves for blind ignorance, not pin it on the failure of democracy.
Sorry. I don't understand. Democracy, by definition, is government by and for the people. I cannot help but wonder if Plato wasn't correct when he stated that democracy would ultimately evolve into tyranny. Republic, Book 8.
I don't understand your argument then. Are you not implying that Chesterton would reject democracy for another political/economic system? What would that be? Based on my knowledge of his worldview, he would not embrace a nihilistic view of democracy to begin with. He was certainly aware of the works of Plato in his time. How would they possibly have bearing on his thoughts about democracy any more today than in his time.
Look at the paradox of Eden where a paradise was agiven if the Law also was zero tolerances? unlike Jesus & his beloved community with only an expectation of it and the fulfillments of the Law via Love, Faith as Hope if not Tempter is utmost unavoidable!
Read 1 Corinthians 15: 14 before you read the book, then take highlighter pen and mark every sentence that contains a mustard seed's worth of empirical evidence to support the biblical resurrection claim. I can assure you that you will have no need to remove your pen top. Belief without sufficient evidence is indistinguishable from gullibility and Chesterton was demonstrably gullible in that book.
@@pierrebitcan Yes, the fact that I never had to remove my pen top. Additionally the fact that no Christian theist has ever presented empirical evidence to support the truth of 1 Corinthians 15: 14. Your reply is a perfect example. Instead of providing the evidence that I assert, with the same degree of confidence that the sun will rise tomorrow, is not there, you instead attempt to intellectually dishonestly shift the burden of proof. There is no empirical evidence, deal with it, or become an atheist.
He is correct about reading Orthodoxy for the first time, i've nearly rewrote the first 3 chapters in my notebook. Looking forward to my 3rd time reading through the book. Its funny how things work out- Sam Harris sent me to Peterson, Peterson to Lewis and Lewis to Chesterton. Thanks for the talk.
I had a very similar journey. From atheism to Christian to Catholic in about 5 years.
Wow, same
We've had a similar journey to GKC
I had something similar. I went from Tolkien to Lewis, then back to Tolkien and finally to Chesterton.
funny how the intellect goes up with each author you mention in sequence
It's a ridiculously brilliant book, faith or not. A real modern masterpiece. Mind-blowing for me anyway, and a real shot in the heart. It's an heroic piece of writing, even if you cannot after all follow him so far as believing Christianity. I don't know if I can, but I love this book, and his writings generally. Reading this and Chesterton for the first time was a major event in my life, spiritually and intellectually. It's such a fantastically well-written and argued work. It's dazzling literature, whether or not you agree with his arguments. Sheer genius.
+Ishmael Forester Good philosophy will do that to you. Gaining insights from people you disagree with is a rare talent these days :)
labrynianrebel That's just it, in the case of Chesterton. He is a mind-boggling genius but you cannot help but feel he is biased where Christianity, the Church and the Middle Ages are concerned. He more than anybody squeezes everything worthwhile out of them but he does seem to go to far. But simply for the Ballad of the White Horse, the great poem about Alfred, the man is immortal as far as English literature goes.
+Ishmael Forester Yes, and do you know that the massive Norton Anthology of English Literature could not make a place for even a couple pages of GKC's best writings? The editors have found space for so many writers who mattered little to this world in their lifetimes and barely have any significance to anyone now. There is room for muddleheads and addledheads of many species apparently, but for GKC, the brilliant author of so many works in prose and poetry, not a word.
+Joseph Campagnolo No, I had no idea. Frankly, I'm disgusted by the fact The Ballad of the White Horse is not in there. I cannot imagine a more pivotal or important masterpiece of English literature. But it's their loss and shame. Obviously time will tell with Chesterton. I expect him to be appreciated more in the next generation than ours or the last, as every true great. Fashions pass, but genius is eternal.
+Ishmael Forester I mean, perhaps it was too Christian or something? Not modern enough? Then you remember Churchill ended his victory speech in 1945 by advising that Parliament visit their Chapel and pray.
Thank you for your work and teachings of G.K. Your work will save souls.
I've read it two and a half times. And I'm just smart enough to see that there is more here than I can grasp.
Thanks to /r/jordanpeterson for sending me here. Chesterton it turns out, is fantastic.
what does peterson have to say about chesterton?
Same!
The Netflix series Father Brown is based on Chestertons novels.
This is so helpful. I'm reading it now as part of my personal study plan and i keep flipping back and rereading. I'm also doing the audio book when I walk around town.
oh man this guy is good. like a prophet. Im only just beginning to understand him. I mean Ahlquist btw.
Although I live in New York City (lived in Bay Area for 3 years to be counted in) and have reached only the first reading of Orthodoxy, I have subscribed. Thank you, I look forward to the 2nd part. - 6/15/2022
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Another way of explaining paradox is the goldilocks principle. Too hot too cold and just right. It applies to understanding the incarnation as well as porridge
remarkable!
I love Dale’s presentation style. He is full of so much joy and pleasure, as if he is always ready to laugh. Like he finds infinite enjoyment in the world of Chesterton.
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Always with humor!
Excellent video! I’m grateful for having been able to see past my doubts and giving this video a go, and whoah! The content was exquisite and the delivery was superb. Thank you. 👍 👍
GK Chesterton's Orthodoxy is the book that lit me up for Christianity, and led me to listen to the entire Bible and countless sermons.
Edit: I don't like Roman Catholicism at all, but I love this book.
Wawwwww! Really true.....
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Can't help laughing!!! I'm on my third read and third color of pen. I thought there was something wrong with me, a deficit of attention and intellect.
I wonder, if he were around today, if he would still believe in democracy. Not the universal democracy (including both the living and the dead); but that democracy practiced in such places as the U.S.A.
what makes you think he would embrace anything but democracy? He would likely of been against Vatican II and rigidly traditional.
Democracies have become secular and materialistic. The Western democracies are turning away from God, and their Christian tradition. Think European Union. Doesn't sound like Chesterton to me. I don't know about V2: but, certainly, he would have seen CLEARLY the nuttiness of the 'spirit of V2'.
The west has been secular for some time. Now just as then, he would blame the people themselves for blind ignorance, not pin it on the failure of democracy.
Sorry. I don't understand. Democracy, by definition, is government by and for the people.
I cannot help but wonder if Plato wasn't correct when he stated that democracy would ultimately evolve into tyranny. Republic, Book 8.
I don't understand your argument then. Are you not implying that Chesterton would reject democracy for another political/economic system?
What would that be?
Based on my knowledge of his worldview, he would not embrace a nihilistic view of democracy to begin with.
He was certainly aware of the works of Plato in his time. How would they possibly have bearing on his thoughts about democracy any more today than in his time.
Haha he looks like Robert California from The Office a little bit.
19:54 coulombe?
Has to be.
Look at the paradox of Eden where a paradise was agiven if the Law also was zero tolerances? unlike Jesus & his beloved community with only an expectation of it and the fulfillments of the Law via Love, Faith as Hope if not Tempter is utmost unavoidable!
Orthodoxy is Biblical
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Read 1 Corinthians 15: 14 before you read the book, then take highlighter pen and mark every sentence that contains a mustard seed's worth of empirical evidence to support the biblical resurrection claim.
I can assure you that you will have no need to remove your pen top.
Belief without sufficient evidence is indistinguishable from gullibility and Chesterton was demonstrably gullible in that book.
Do you have any concrete proof for your claim about belief without evidence? I've never seen any.
@@pierrebitcan Yes, the fact that I never had to remove my pen top. Additionally the fact that no Christian theist has ever presented empirical evidence to support the truth of 1 Corinthians 15: 14.
Your reply is a perfect example. Instead of providing the evidence that I assert, with the same degree of confidence that the sun will rise tomorrow, is not there, you instead attempt to intellectually dishonestly shift the burden of proof.
There is no empirical evidence, deal with it, or become an atheist.
@@pierrebitcan don't join the "concrete proof" argument. It's insanity.
Can you talk without saying “and er” so much?
This is the worst thing I've ever seen