They are now. Gas is 4x more expensive than electricity mile for mile if you can plug in at home. EVs also last 50% longer than gas cars and have almost no maintenance. Try one .. they are a hoot to drive!
@@solarguy4850 You have to consider the fact that not everyone has a house with a garage to have home charging. Yes it may be cheaper to charge than it is to fuel but, when you have to plug in and stay awhile and all for a short and shitty range especially when on a long range travel, charging should be free. My long distance travels amount to over 7 thousand miles a year or more. I'll take the gas and the 3 minutes it takes and the 570 miles of range i get for it. Money i have, time i don't. Try one? I did. I had a model S. I got rid of that crap. I prefer a large full size luxury automobile which tesla dosent even make. A large full size luxury automobile, paid off at 41K, 3 minutes to fuel, 570 miles of range, and more than a pleasure to drive, I'll keep my jaguar XJl and leave well enough alone. When mr Elon Musk comes out with an EV that provides these same fine qualities and improvements, now we're talkin! Till then, you can have the EV along with their limited provisions....
@@carlsmith5545 people value different things. I drive a lot more than most .. 20,000 miles a year .. so I really love saving money. My range is good .. about 200 miles and I need to pee and eat anyway. Very long trips .. like a 600 mile one takes me about 1 hr longer. No big deal IMHO. EVs are too much fun .. I won’t go back,
@@solarguy4850 i pee too and have less downtimes. I do very long trips and with the ability to keep moving. If long downtimes and a short and shitty range along with longer ETAs because your EV just dosent deliver you call fun then that's great, good for you. Like i said, i had a tesla model S. I liked it and it was nice. Slightly to small for me. I sold it and got rid of it because i realized that my jaguar XJl provides me with a lot more. One day tesla will come out with an EV that provides much shorter down times, a great long range for travels and for guys like me, a large full size luxury automobile which currently isn't available. When that happens, hell now we're talkin!! Now you'll have a real reason to boast the EV. Then, I'll get another one. My standards are far greater and my car which more than delivers is more than a pleasure to drive. But one thing i do need for you to do while traveling out there, please be safe no matter what you drive....👍
Hyundai wanted 13 grand for replacing a noise electric engine. The skilled mechanic disassembled the engine and replaced a ball bearing for a few bucks after he had to do some research to find a compatible ball bearing as Hyundai refused to deliver a replacement part inside the full electric engine. The problem is that this repair is common in industry but not in a modern car shop.
A pot-hole is potentially the end of your car, hiw can you inspect EVERY BATTERY CELL? A pot/hole will destroy the welding/soldering joints of each individual cell
Why does not anyone think about a simple “dry” joint on even ONE CELL will be the end of your car and potentially thousands in other claims,being maimed after a EV blasts your legs with their “flame throwers!!’ M
My EV repair costs and maintenance have been about 40% less than the gas cars I’ve owned. This is pretty typical based on data. Repairs are a weakness for fossil fuel vehicles.. not EVs. I’m an old mechanic and gearhead btw .. used to love tuning muscle cars.
And I'll take one of your muscle cars especially after I had a glitch in my computer system in my Tesla, 2,600 dollars to fix. Then, 3 months later, the same damn thing. If you think for one minute that EVs are built with perfect hands, guess again.If you think Evs never go wrong or break than someone lied to you. I finally got rid of it and that wasn't easy either. My insurance dropped off to and so did my electric bill. I kept my jaguar which provides me with more .
@@carlsmith5545 the 2019 Jaguar XJL. It has very long range which is great for when I travel from Philadelphia Pennsylvania to Los Angeles California to visit family.
@@pennyforce4856 Damn so do i. I brought my jaguar XJl 2 years ago with only 18 thousand miles on it. Great for when i travel from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Jacksonville Florida, Dallas Texas, Johnson city Tennessee, st Louis Missouri, and Chicago Illinois. Some of these destinations i do a few times a year. I had a model S and i liked it but to small and it just didn't deliver for me. I never had any issues with it except that sitting around like some bad ass kid in time out for a short and shitty range got old. But some people think all that is fun.
@@carlsmith5545 all that damn money I put out for those computer issues. Who ever thinks all that EV crap is fun that's great!! Better them than me....
EVs are like toasters on wheels. You seen what happens when one of them goes up in flames? You need the whole amount of Niagara Falls to put it out. Who needs a good old log campfire to toast the marshmallows and boil the billy when you're out in the woods? Just go out there in a new fangled off-road EV and drive over a huge rock so it damages the battery guard and shorts out the cells. 😂
That's a great question. I'm still praying that it doesn't come to that. Maybe a new technology will come out better than both....or just let us keep our gas cars lol.
No. And here's why. The materials needed to produce one are expensive AF. I have to repair them for a living. I make about 150 per hour because demand/supply Programming Parts availability Sometimes insurance gets involved (and in A LOT of cases tries to sway the customer to buy another car instead of repairing.) If you had any idea what I go through. I love my Durango, when I work on any EV including Tesla I am so thankful for that thing.
I’m a mechanic and have owned a Tesla for 10 yrs/225,000 miles .. you may be able to fool some people here, but you can’t fool me. Fact is EVs are simple, powerful, reliable, cheap to run, and fun to drive! If you don’t drive much and/or like giving your money to oil companies .. no problem, buy a gas car.
You think emgine replacement is cheaper,why don't you check bmw, Mercedes-Benz, and audi, for new engine's. Its a total rip off, more than actual batteries,
@GreenCarBuzz actually no. Batteries from tesla outlast any ice engine, proven fact. Other legacy brands is possible different story, my 2019 model 3 like new about 80k, miles. My daughter has 2013 model s with 150k, miles, runs on original battery. like a charm with hard any main, you can squak all you like
I have 225,000 miles on my 2015 Tesla 85D. It still has 87% battery remaining and looks/drives like new. I charge on solar, so my yearly fuel cost is under $400 driving about 20,000 miles/yr. I’ve had very little go wrong .. in fact, most EV drivers find repair/maintenance to be about 1/2 vs a gas car .. plus EVs seem to be lasting at least 50% longer! Add in the “fun” factor .. EVs are a hoot to drive since they have so much power, instant response, etc., and as a bonus are quiet, don’t smell, and don’t kill you and your family with toxic fumes. I’m a trained mechanic and a gear-head btw.
So if it's a 2015 Tesla your battery warranty on the traction drive is pretty well over. You better hope nothing goes wrong with it from now on cos a replacement is going to cost you around $20,000. All those savings you made compared to an ICE could go out the window overnight.
Sounds good, glad that you enjoy yours, bravo. But look into what happens to your battery when it dies. Unlike metal engines in ICE vehicles they can’t be easily, or cleanly recycled.
@@onlyme972 It was crazy expensive, but this is the class of vehicle I was in the market for. As it turned out, my Tesla will last at least 1.5x longer than the Mercedes I was going to buy .. add in the $40,000 I saved on fuel already and I’m way, way ahead. Please feel free to drive a lame gas car though and give your money to oil companies. I fuel off of my own solar for 1/10 the cost of gas at my compound. Yes I’m a red-neck.
Will EVs like Tesla ever be affordable for the average person?
They are now. Gas is 4x more expensive than electricity mile for mile if you can plug in at home. EVs also last 50% longer than gas cars and have almost no maintenance. Try one .. they are a hoot to drive!
@@solarguy4850 You have to consider the fact that not everyone has a house with a garage to have home charging. Yes it may be cheaper to charge than it is to fuel but, when you have to plug in and stay awhile and all for a short and shitty range especially when on a long range travel, charging should be free. My long distance travels amount to over 7 thousand miles a year or more. I'll take the gas and the 3 minutes it takes and the 570 miles of range i get for it. Money i have, time i don't. Try one? I did. I had a model S. I got rid of that crap. I prefer a large full size luxury automobile which tesla dosent even make. A large full size luxury automobile, paid off at 41K, 3 minutes to fuel, 570 miles of range, and more than a pleasure to drive, I'll keep my jaguar XJl and leave well enough alone. When mr Elon Musk comes out with an EV that provides these same fine qualities and improvements, now we're talkin! Till then, you can have the EV along with their limited provisions....
@@carlsmith5545 people value different things. I drive a lot more than most .. 20,000 miles a year .. so I really love saving money. My range is good .. about 200 miles and I need to pee and eat anyway. Very long trips .. like a 600 mile one takes me about 1 hr longer. No big deal IMHO. EVs are too much fun .. I won’t go back,
@@solarguy4850 i pee too and have less downtimes. I do very long trips and with the ability to keep moving. If long downtimes and a short and shitty range along with longer ETAs because your EV just dosent deliver you call fun then that's great, good for you. Like i said, i had a tesla model S. I liked it and it was nice. Slightly to small for me. I sold it and got rid of it because i realized that my jaguar XJl provides me with a lot more. One day tesla will come out with an EV that provides much shorter down times, a great long range for travels and for guys like me, a large full size luxury automobile which currently isn't available. When that happens, hell now we're talkin!! Now you'll have a real reason to boast the EV. Then, I'll get another one. My standards are far greater and my car which more than delivers is more than a pleasure to drive. But one thing i do need for you to do while traveling out there, please be safe no matter what you drive....👍
Hyundai wanted 13 grand for replacing a noise electric engine. The skilled mechanic disassembled the engine and replaced a ball bearing for a few bucks after he had to do some research to find a compatible ball bearing as Hyundai refused to deliver a replacement part inside the full electric engine.
The problem is that this repair is common in industry but not in a modern car shop.
A pot-hole is potentially the end of your car, hiw can you inspect EVERY BATTERY CELL? A pot/hole will destroy the welding/soldering joints of each individual cell
So they are also hitting the normal car owners car owners
The costs and increasing,a garage will refuse ti store them inside, when will garages refuse to keep them inside?
Why does not anyone think about a simple “dry” joint on even ONE CELL will be the end of your car and potentially thousands in other claims,being maimed after a EV blasts your legs with their “flame throwers!!’
M
My EV repair costs and maintenance have been about 40% less than the gas cars I’ve owned. This is pretty typical based on data. Repairs are a weakness for fossil fuel vehicles.. not EVs. I’m an old mechanic and gearhead btw .. used to love tuning muscle cars.
And I'll take one of your muscle cars especially after I had a glitch in my computer system in my Tesla, 2,600 dollars to fix. Then, 3 months later, the same damn thing. If you think for one minute that EVs are built with perfect hands, guess again.If you think Evs never go wrong or break than someone lied to you. I finally got rid of it and that wasn't easy either. My insurance dropped off to and so did my electric bill. I kept my jaguar which provides me with more .
@@pennyforce4856 which Jaguar do you have?
@@carlsmith5545 the 2019 Jaguar XJL. It has very long range which is great for when I travel from Philadelphia Pennsylvania to Los Angeles California to visit family.
@@pennyforce4856 Damn so do i. I brought my jaguar XJl 2 years ago with only 18 thousand miles on it. Great for when i travel from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Jacksonville Florida, Dallas Texas, Johnson city Tennessee, st Louis Missouri, and Chicago Illinois. Some of these destinations i do a few times a year. I had a model S and i liked it but to small and it just didn't deliver for me. I never had any issues with it except that sitting around like some bad ass kid in time out for a short and shitty range got old. But some people think all that is fun.
@@carlsmith5545 all that damn money I put out for those computer issues. Who ever thinks all that EV crap is fun that's great!! Better them than me....
Untouchable.
If you want something electric , get a toaster !!!
lol yep.
EVs are like toasters on wheels. You seen what happens when one of them goes up in flames? You need the whole amount of Niagara Falls to put it out. Who needs a good old log campfire to toast the marshmallows and boil the billy when you're out in the woods? Just go out there in a new fangled off-road EV and drive over a huge rock so it damages the battery guard and shorts out the cells. 😂
You could just total a brand new EV in yards after even going over a speed-bump,poor connections using crap battery cells!!!!
BYD China sells excellent, affordable EVs. Sadly we'll never see them here.
Probably not...
Nah, we don't want them here...they catch on fire more often..
what will happen then when the time come they take away all our cars and force us to use only EV or else ?
That's a great question. I'm still praying that it doesn't come to that. Maybe a new technology will come out better than both....or just let us keep our gas cars lol.
No. And here's why. The materials needed to produce one are expensive AF.
I have to repair them for a living. I make about 150 per hour because demand/supply
Programming
Parts availability
Sometimes insurance gets involved
(and in A LOT of cases tries to sway the customer to buy another car instead of repairing.)
If you had any idea what I go through.
I love my Durango, when I work on any EV including Tesla I am so thankful for that thing.
I’m a mechanic and have owned a Tesla for 10 yrs/225,000 miles .. you may be able to fool some people here, but you can’t fool me. Fact is EVs are simple, powerful, reliable, cheap to run, and fun to drive! If you don’t drive much and/or like giving your money to oil companies .. no problem, buy a gas car.
You think emgine replacement is cheaper,why don't you check bmw, Mercedes-Benz, and audi, for new engine's. Its a total rip off, more than actual batteries,
Engines last MUCH longer than batteries.
@GreenCarBuzz actually no. Batteries from tesla outlast any ice engine, proven fact. Other legacy brands is possible different story, my 2019 model 3 like new about 80k, miles. My daughter has 2013 model s with 150k, miles, runs on original battery. like a charm with hard any main, you can squak all you like
I have 225,000 miles on my 2015 Tesla 85D. It still has 87% battery remaining and looks/drives like new. I charge on solar, so my yearly fuel cost is under $400 driving about 20,000 miles/yr. I’ve had very little go wrong .. in fact, most EV drivers find repair/maintenance to be about 1/2 vs a gas car .. plus EVs seem to be lasting at least 50% longer! Add in the “fun” factor .. EVs are a hoot to drive since they have so much power, instant response, etc., and as a bonus are quiet, don’t smell, and don’t kill you and your family with toxic fumes. I’m a trained mechanic and a gear-head btw.
So if it's a 2015 Tesla your battery warranty on the traction drive is pretty well over. You better hope nothing goes wrong with it from now on cos a replacement is going to cost you around $20,000. All those savings you made compared to an ICE could go out the window overnight.
Sounds good, glad that you enjoy yours, bravo. But look into what happens to your battery when it dies. Unlike metal engines in ICE vehicles they can’t be easily, or cleanly recycled.
How can you charge on solar? A home battery?
What did it cost?what's it worth today?😢
@@onlyme972 It was crazy expensive, but this is the class of vehicle I was in the market for. As it turned out, my Tesla will last at least 1.5x longer than the Mercedes I was going to buy .. add in the $40,000 I saved on fuel already and I’m way, way ahead. Please feel free to drive a lame gas car though and give your money to oil companies. I fuel off of my own solar for 1/10 the cost of gas at my compound. Yes I’m a red-neck.