The Turkish bow is actually more suitable for shooting arrows in the Turkish style. In traditional Turkish archery, archers shoot arrows by wearing a ring-like device on their thumbs and archery styles are also different. In Turks, thumb and index finger are used to string the bow. open their thumbs and index fingers in an "L" shape. They shoot with their thumbs pulling the bow and their index fingers steadying the arrow. When they shoot the arrow, the hand position looks like the Nike logo upside down :D I think they use such a style because horseback archery is more common in Turks.
Your style of shooting will come into play here too ...it's much easier to shoot sassanid with a longer bow ...shorter bows favor thumb draw. You seemed to do very well with all the them but since I'm a Slavic fan I've decided to get a grozer biocomposite Assyrian
hey brother, im new to researching bows, what does grozer mean? and im turkish so i was looking at a really nice grozer biocomposite turkish bow. also what are the bows that bend more called?
Very nice video, illuminating another view on important aspects for archers! Thank you, Charlie! ☺️🙏 To prevent your bowhand from sliding on the handle, you can wrap leather around it. It works pretty well 😁 If you don’t have leather pieces at hand, you may use tennis racket grip band as well (a bit thick, but may help with your long fingers) Keep up the fun! 🏹🔆
I'm about to buy a target from Bógar Archery and I think I'm also going to buy the Assyrian bow. It's so beautiful and it seems to perform extremely well. I have a personal suggestion for the problem of the sliding arrows: You could wrap two small strips of leather at the ends of the handle. This would both make the surface more even for the arrows to rest on, because they will not have to rest only on the wooden bulge, but they would also rest on the leather. And due to the "grippy" structure of leather they would also not slide away as easily. I think it could be a really practical fix, and if done properly with good quality leather, it could also look good. In any case, thanks for these videos, keep up the great work! Cheers from Italy. 🇮🇹
Dude your videos are so good. I agree with you on your decision. Even tho I only use Korean bows for my archery. I love the bows u display and how you display it.
@@pyramid_scheme_termination3655 they are extremely fast. And the low brace height makes for easy quick Nocking. They are super light and really easy to maneuver around. I do use other bows now on my channel but Korean bows has a special spot in my archery.
Sipahis are equestrian units, 90% of which are trained by overlords and can be compared to gendarmes in daily life. It is lightly armored cavalry. That is why they must use both spears, maces, swords and arrows, but they are the best horse archers of the time. The infantry arrow is the arrow used by the janissaries you described Turkish arrow. The janissaries are shooting units, they have to shoot accurately into the distance. 5 shots in 10 seconds at 100 meters should all be at a 5cm2. These are the best arrow-shooting infantry of their time. According to the need arrow types...
I would like to buy a 30 lbs green Sipahi Bow, but I think Vegh does no longer produce Sipahi. The new product is Fetih.... Vegh Turkish is the bow, I had as I started with Turkish thumb archery. Most of my students shoot the Vegh Turkish!
Great comparison! I am looking at bows from Bogar, in particular the Assyrian bow. It seems this is your favorite. A couple questions: Which arrows do you use for these bows and which shooting glove? Thank you
If you are from EU, buy your bow here. Bows from Asia are more expensive because of customs, tax and shipping. Consider also Szimeister bow. If we talk about turkish from Vegh, than go with Fetih :)
Real Turkish bow's tension was too high, it was not like these bows. Everybody could not use this bow, because very difficult, but very fast and powerful.
@@spiderh Using the Turkish bow, especially setting it up, is very difficult and requires abnormal power. In fact, if we talk about real historical records, Safavid Shah (all the rulers of the Safavid state are Turkmen). He sends a bow to IV Murat Khan. He says that no one in the Safavid Empire could build this bow, which is true. Murat IV receives this gift in his court and tells his grand viziers to install it, but no one else can. Finally, 4. Murat sets this bow in one try. After that 4. Murat Ordes to hung this bow and who can set this bow going to see him. This bow setted after 4.Murat by only one man.Crazy Hüseyin Paşa. 4. Murat after this he made Hüseyin Paşa Grand Vezir. This bow was later used by Murat IV to make 900-meter shots. This bow is hung on one of the doors of Topkapı Palace as a memorial.
Hi Charlie, love your vids they are very insiring and I would like to start with running archery as it looks to make so much fun! Because of your expirience and reviews I would like to buy the Assyrian bow from bogar and have some questions. I am shooting now its my first bow an Tiron 60 inch lengh bow from MR Bows with 36lb at 28 inch..now what draw weight would you suggest for running archery to start with and what are your prefered arrows from aliexpress or your source? Thank you very much for your feedback and keep on running ;-).. best regards zoran😀
Not sure if it was a conscious decision or not, but during the accuracy test the knocking was much smoother for the second bow when compared to the first and third bow. Title says bows under 300€ but I can't see any source for where they sell the bows for that price.
you could surgically remove a lamellae from armour with that grouping then put one through the hole :P i think asyrian suits me best(i think it will last the longest also because its sending more of its energy into arrow than others) but for what i want to use it for, skirmishing in reenactment where im meant to shoot them in legs at close range for safety reasons the amount of arrows able to be held in hand was also a large determining factor not that i think ill be holding 12 lol probably more like 7 or 8
This channel popped up on my feed and coincidentally I bought a Peter Bogar Hungarian bow! I was intending to buy a Turkish or Tatar bow but fell in love with the looks of this one (I am shallow that way:) I shoot it daily for exercise.
It's like the Hungarian bow originated in France.... What's the difference between the Tatar bow, the Turkish bow, the Hungarian bow, ? Basic engineering is that these arrows are set up in reverse, this arrow comes from the same root.
@@CharliesRunningArchery maybe you can see the following show. and you can try laminate or composite bows from Indonesia which are cheap and of good quality
Sipahis are ottoman cavallary force, horse archers. Their bows need to be small.
The Turkish bow is actually more suitable for shooting arrows in the Turkish style. In traditional Turkish archery, archers shoot arrows by wearing a ring-like device on their thumbs and archery styles are also different. In Turks, thumb and index finger are used to string the bow. open their thumbs and index fingers in an "L" shape. They shoot with their thumbs pulling the bow and their index fingers steadying the arrow. When they shoot the arrow, the hand position looks like the Nike logo upside down :D I think they use such a style because horseback archery is more common in Turks.
Nice! I want one of each. Currently have an AF Archery Tatar bow and I just love it.
Your style of shooting will come into play here too ...it's much easier to shoot sassanid with a longer bow ...shorter bows favor thumb draw. You seemed to do very well with all the them but since I'm a Slavic fan I've decided to get a grozer biocomposite Assyrian
In just do this slavicish style with all bows and works pretty good :)
hey brother, im new to researching bows, what does grozer mean? and im turkish so i was looking at a really nice grozer biocomposite turkish bow. also what are the bows that bend more called?
my favorite bow is turkish bow because turkish bow is very strong . the health video in your hands is very nice
This one is too big....this one is too small....this one is just right.
Very nice video, illuminating another view on important aspects for archers! Thank you, Charlie! ☺️🙏
To prevent your bowhand from sliding on the handle, you can wrap leather around it. It works pretty well 😁
If you don’t have leather pieces at hand, you may use tennis racket grip band as well (a bit thick, but may help with your long fingers)
Keep up the fun! 🏹🔆
Thanks for advices, Agama!
@@CharliesRunningArchery
what is the assyrian bow called? I want to buy the same.
I'm about to buy a target from Bógar Archery and I think I'm also going to buy the Assyrian bow.
It's so beautiful and it seems to perform extremely well.
I have a personal suggestion for the problem of the sliding arrows:
You could wrap two small strips of leather at the ends of the handle.
This would both make the surface more even for the arrows to rest on, because they will not have to rest only on the wooden bulge, but they would also rest on the leather.
And due to the "grippy" structure of leather they would also not slide away as easily.
I think it could be a really practical fix, and if done properly with good quality leather, it could also look good.
In any case, thanks for these videos, keep up the great work!
Cheers from Italy. 🇮🇹
Thanks for the tip. Definitely go for Bogar bow and target, you will be very pleased :)
Dude your videos are so good. I agree with you on your decision. Even tho I only use Korean bows for my archery. I love the bows u display and how you display it.
Thanks pal!
@@CharliesRunningArchery absolutely love it brother.
@@CharliesRunningArchery I have a collection of over 30 bows. But on the real brother I couldn’t of said it better. You speak so Eloquently
Whats so great about korean bows? their brace height is low and arrow pass so fat.
@@pyramid_scheme_termination3655 they are extremely fast. And the low brace height makes for easy quick Nocking. They are super light and really easy to maneuver around. I do use other bows now on my channel but Korean bows has a special spot in my archery.
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For the algo, bro!
Sipahis are equestrian units, 90% of which are trained by overlords and can be compared to gendarmes in daily life. It is lightly armored cavalry. That is why they must use both spears, maces, swords and arrows, but they are the best horse archers of the time. The infantry arrow is the arrow used by the janissaries you described Turkish arrow. The janissaries are shooting units, they have to shoot accurately into the distance. 5 shots in 10 seconds at 100 meters should all be at a 5cm2. These are the best arrow-shooting infantry of their time. According to the need arrow types...
Thank you 🙏
Ты бы прежде всего лучше стрелять бы научился, прежде чем позориться на экране 🤪
I would like to buy a 30 lbs green Sipahi Bow, but I think Vegh does no longer produce Sipahi. The new product is Fetih....
Vegh Turkish is the bow, I had as I started with Turkish thumb archery. Most of my students shoot the Vegh Turkish!
I think that they still make Sipahi, write them e-mail or facebook them :)
I contacted Peter Bogar about a short sipahi and he said more of them will be priced very soon. They are making them.
Great comparison! I am looking at bows from Bogar, in particular the Assyrian bow. It seems this is your favorite. A couple questions: Which arrows do you use for these bows and which shooting glove? Thank you
Using shooting gloves no more ;) arrows are carbons 31” 500 spine :)
Hi I just saw your video. Nice !! I just wondered which arrows and at how many grains , you used. Georges
Skylon Frontier with my special nocks and spin is 500 for my 38 pound Assyrian bow :)
Where can someone buy the SIPAI and ASSYRIAN bows, in Canada ??
You did a good job shooting this video 😉
until you specified i did not realized how long your fingers are... man you have huge hands :))
I can play ping pong with bare hands 😂
;))
You should try the piano!
Hi Charie,
Would you recommend a Turkish bow by AliBow or by Vegh if we are talking ~300USD?
If you are from EU, buy your bow here. Bows from Asia are more expensive because of customs, tax and shipping. Consider also Szimeister bow. If we talk about turkish from Vegh, than go with Fetih :)
Real Turkish bow's tension was too high, it was not like these bows. Everybody could not use this bow, because very difficult, but very fast and powerful.
Probably wasn't easy back then. Now it's amazing tool, easy to use :)
@@CharliesRunningArchery No, your bow's tension too low, and slow compared to real Turkish bows.
Topkapi Palace has 240 libre (pound) bows.
Sure
@@spiderh Using the Turkish bow, especially setting it up, is very difficult and requires abnormal power. In fact, if we talk about real historical records, Safavid Shah (all the rulers of the Safavid state are Turkmen). He sends a bow to IV Murat Khan. He says that no one in the Safavid Empire could build this bow, which is true. Murat IV receives this gift in his court and tells his grand viziers to install it, but no one else can. Finally, 4. Murat sets this bow in one try. After that 4. Murat Ordes to hung this bow and who can set this bow going to see him. This bow setted after 4.Murat by only one man.Crazy Hüseyin Paşa. 4. Murat after this he made Hüseyin Paşa Grand Vezir. This bow was later used by Murat IV to make 900-meter shots. This bow is hung on one of the doors of Topkapı Palace as a memorial.
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Mongol bow enters the chat...
Haha, good comment. Not for me. Nothing beats Turkish bow for me :)
@@CharliesRunningArchery i should try It aswell
All three are very good bows. But the Assyrian is still Lit!
Hi Charlie, love your vids they are very insiring and I would like to start with running archery as it looks to make so much fun! Because of your expirience and reviews I would like to buy the Assyrian bow from bogar and have some questions. I am shooting now its my first bow an Tiron 60 inch lengh bow from MR Bows with 36lb at 28 inch..now what draw weight would you suggest for running archery to start with and what are your prefered arrows from aliexpress or your source? Thank you very much for your feedback and keep on running ;-).. best regards zoran😀
Hi, running archery is much easier with lighter and shorter bows. I prefere 35-40 lbs and bows under 120cm of sting lenght :)
Hi Friend, i feel you need try jackal bow
Sipahi bow is the best for me. 👍
It's very good bow, for me this one has too high brace hight.
Not sure if it was a conscious decision or not, but during the accuracy test the knocking was much smoother for the second bow when compared to the first and third bow. Title says bows under 300€ but I can't see any source for where they sell the bows for that price.
Sure! It's bogararchery.sk :)
you could surgically remove a lamellae from armour with that grouping then put one through the hole :P
i think asyrian suits me best(i think it will last the longest also because its sending more of its energy into arrow than others) but for what i want to use it for, skirmishing in reenactment where im meant to shoot them in legs at close range for safety reasons the amount of arrows able to be held in hand was also a large determining factor not that i think ill be holding 12 lol probably more like 7 or 8
Assyrian is amazing, one of my all time favorites :)
A nice comparison. Good job.
Glad you enjoyed it
Could you do running archery with thumb release? Why do you prefer slavik?
Of course, you can. I just chosen Slavic because it feels very natural for me and my body reacts on this style with fluent energy :)
Hi have you an arrow tattoo
Hi, I do have :)
@@CharliesRunningArchery brilliant, you must show it, thinking of getting one myself,
Dimanakah anda membeli busur itu pak, dan berapakah harganya 🙏
Saya memiliki semua busur ini dari bogararchery.sk dan harganya sekitar 300 Euro. Saya menggunakan google translate untuk terjemahannya.
Most Turkish archers hold arrows in there draw hand although some do hold arrows in there bow hand
Yes
Thank you for this. One question: What is that cool target you are shooting at? Where can I buy one?
Polyfoam target by bogararchery.sk
@@CharliesRunningArchery Thanks. However, it was the circular target of straw I was after.
What is the differences btw sipahi and turkish bows?
None, it's the same construcion. Sipahi is just the name of this bowmaker Vegh for another type of his short turkish bow.
Ahh what, you r not compare g them again st an ELB,
What is an ELB?
I am beginner which poundage is best for me
It depends on your overall strength... for beginners are mostly 30-35lbs bows ok :)
I really cant tell the difference.they all look the same
And yet very different bows!
Where can I buy Turkish one ?
bogararchery.sk :)
Whats the difference about vegh sipahi and vegh fetih
Sipahi 290 grams, Fetih 275 grams :)
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HUNGARIAN bows are the king, just to let you know 🤷♂️
These are definitely great bows, tried some of them even on this channel. Check them out :)
This channel popped up on my feed and coincidentally I bought a Peter Bogar Hungarian bow! I was intending to buy a Turkish or Tatar bow but fell in love with the looks of this one (I am shallow that way:) I shoot it daily for exercise.
It's like the Hungarian bow originated in France.... What's the difference between the Tatar bow, the Turkish bow, the Hungarian bow, ? Basic engineering is that these arrows are set up in reverse, this arrow comes from the same root.
New subscriber. Great video!
Awesome! Thank you!
you should show how far away the target is
Accuracy test was made from 8 meters.
expensive bow
If 300 Euros is expensive for you, than yes. Any cheaper high quality bow you can recommend?
@@CharliesRunningArchery maybe you can see the following show.
and you can try laminate or composite bows from Indonesia which are cheap and of good quality
Do not see the link or name of the channel, can you send it again? Thanks
@@CharliesRunningArchery sorry brothers.
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Unfortunately I do not understand this language. Can you send me Instagram or Facebook page to company or person who make these bows? Thanks
What glove are you using here?
It is Bearpaw for about 20USD.
@@CharliesRunningArchery for the thumb draw?
Turkish is best one .
Very good bow, agreed :)
I tell you who is the king, Big Jim's thunder child and or Shrew Bows.
will try :)
Sipahi means soldier in my language. Our highest monks are called sant-sipahis (soldier-saints). Our gurus practiced and encouraged horse archery.
Interesting!