I have both experienced a miracle first hand and seen a miracle. Jesus healed me from depression. One of our goats had a twisted stomach, she went down with it , couldn’t stand. She was dying. I prayed for her that God would either heal her or let her die quickly so she wouldn't suffer. I left to milk the other goats. While milking I was listening to a preacher on the radio and he was talking about praying in and for all things. He gave an example list of what praying for all things might include and I said out loud that would include my goats instantly peace washed over me. I finished up milking and went to check on the one who was dying from a twisted stomach. She was trying to get to her feet, her stomach was no longer twisted she was healed. She's still alive today reminding me of the goodness of God.
Hey IP. Before I found your videos, I had a very hard time believing in god. Your videos have not only helped me believe in him, but to also know him. God bless and happy new year.
Miracles aren’t always causing a blind man to see or making water appear. My fiancé being given to me by God when I don’t deserve his mercy or her, is a miracle. I say amen to that.
Then you're using a different definition for a miracle. It wasn't a suspension of the laws of nature, and it definitely doesn't require any divine intervention.
@@bullpuppy7455 That's amazing! Is that from your denomination's catechism or creed or something? I would be interested in reading more about this. Thanks for sharing. Take care!
@@bullpuppy7455 I'd already found it from your other comment and downloaded the PDF, lol! XD I have to ask, are you part of a liberal/progressive/New Age denomination? I say this because while I do find some of their insights to be occasionally inspiring (sometimes in a slightly different context, than it was meant but it really does seem like they consistently miss the bigger picture, like the reality of sin and the historicity of the Resurrection. I'm not a hard literalist (in that I assume everything from the Bible to be automatically literal, like the YECs do), but it's pretty clear some passage were intended very literally, such as Exodus and the Gospels, judging by the literary nature of the text and the confirmation by archaeological inquiry. I'm not here to attack anyone (although I do have harsh words for false prophets who lead the sheep astray), but rather wish only to find and share the truth.
I understand that what you’ve received is special and certainly a gift from God, but by definition it is not a miracle. A miracle is something that defies the laws of our understanding of the physical world. The two things you mentioned do that; you meeting your fiancée does not.
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@Kamden Gianni thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and Im in the hacking process atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
+SoCalExile It's just as C.S. Lewis put it. If supernatural, divine intervention in the everyday world were found to be impossible, improbable, or irrelevant, Hinduism, Islam, and perhaps (modern) Judaism would remain largely unaffected. Christianity on the other hand, to even fundamentally make sense, requires at least two miracles: (1) the Incarnation and Virgin Birth, and (2) the Resurrection. As a side note, miracles would be even more necessary for Catholic/Eastern Orthodox Christians, given their deep emphasis on the saints and the sacraments.
With respect to you every religion is established because of supernatural events or people who had multiple miracles....Hinduism miracle Vedas and Krishna....Islam had a supernatural liar Mohammad....Judiasm had Abraham walking with God then 4-5 centuries later Moses then about 1,000 later the Kabbahla...Buddhism needed the Buddha and followed by 80 roughly Bodistivas. The Yoga Sutras of Pantanjali refer to a list of miraculous powers due to a person observing God's laws and also honoring him in all people. Finally Jesus Christ stated, "I and My Father are One, ... also, All that the Father is I am. " Then compare to Upanishads descriptions of Humans who attains or becomes divinity a Jivanmukti in state of Turiya some call it Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi
That doesn't even make any sense when you think about it. A Christian who denies Miracles could not even be a Christian, because they would have to deny the very miracle that makes Christianity even possible.
But catholics are wrong in their teachings........mate......im not judging but my only request for you is Read The BIBLE And try to Know God.....and Understand What Bible Teaches......
Francisco Litvay it may be a good start there until you find that what's more biblical is when you start studying and examining the Scripture yourself other than relying on traditional catholicism. Evangelical Christianity has a guts on this.
@@franciscolitvay6293 just check on the traditions of catholic church and the Bible The festivals and celebrations The infant baptism The mass The confession Nothing is from the Bible Plz check on some videos of RAY COMFORT How he preach GOSPEL to CATHOLICS
This is basically how Mods work in video games. God is essentially dragging and dropping "miracles" and new aspects to the system, and by the laws of nature they can come into effect. The initial programming of the world or video game is still there but if you add something new it doesn't change the game, it's just new content that can be experienced due to the world it's in.
Good explanation, it’s like two computer programs debating wether the Computer programmer can add new code into the already existing code. Short answer, of course he can, he’s the programmer.
My wife, after a decade of brain surgery, suffering, and multiple neurologists not having any idea what to do... only needed the touch of a Child of God from India with faith, knowing Holy Spirit so beautifully and personally, released healing fully into her body. As a Biological Scientist in a highly analytical work environment, was blown away by witnessing this miracle, and even more the neurologists had to confess the same when they saw the breakthrough. Miracles are still for today.... I am still humbled beyond the description of what I have seen tasted and experienced during my wife's journey.
Everyone reading this is an unbroken chain from creation from the fundamental building of the universe through the first living thing and eons of life. Your existence is a miracle.
It's hard to convince someone who has n ever experienced a miracle that they are possible. Even harder to convince someone who has experienced one that they are not.
Thanks you so muchhh!!!!! I can't stop from thanking you dude! Everytime atheists videos try to let me become an atheist your videos push me back to the faith! You've encouraged me to read the bible, to do my own research, to counter atheists claims. God bless you IP!
Hey, I know this video is years old, but after being shakened by my philosophy of religion professor's lecture (primarily based on Hume's On Miracles), I find your answers rationally satisfactory. So, thank you, Michael. I've been consuming your work for years and it has been really helpful in my philosophical inquiries. God bless you and your ministry.
Let me just say, I witnessed 2 miracles in my life. I thought of atheism a few times but theses held me back............. God doesnt show miracles to unbelievers usually. Jesus said "a wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign"........ God entrusted me with this cause I already believed. God also doesnt really do miracles in the west cause the west won't believe either way. Hard hearts over here yet I saw them in the west.
@@ivansnyman3832 God didn't promote that. God was just saying events that would happen in certain prophecied events. Just because the Bible records events doesn't mean God supports it.
@Jubei Yang How do you know Jesus was addressing the believers.The Bible is written for everyone,not just believers. "Jesus Said:Not everyone that says Lord,Lord Will get into the Kingdom of God..."Continue... Matthew 7:21- "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. What is the Will of the Father? John 6:40 ► SUM PIC XRF DEV STU Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day." A Believer already did this and they are made New in Christ and pass out of Judgment into life according to the Bible. So,I Will be happy that I accepted Jesus and so shall the rest of us
@Jubei Yang Matthew 11:20-24 Expanded Bible (EXB) Jesus Warns Unbelievers 20 Then Jesus began to ·criticize [denounce; reproach] the cities where he did ·most [so many] of his ·miracles [powerful deeds], because the people did not ·change their lives and stop sinning [repent]. 21 He said, “·How terrible for [L Woe to] you, Korazin! ·How terrible for [L Woe to] you, Bethsaida! If the same ·miracles [powerful deeds] ·I did [L that occurred] in you had happened in Tyre and Sidon [C cities in Phoenicia notorious for their wickedness], those people would have ·changed their lives [repented] a long time ago. ·They would have worn rough cloth and put ashes on themselves to show they had changed [L …in sackcloth/burlap and ashes; C signs of sorrow and deep remorse]. 22 But I tell you, on the judgment day it will be ·better [more bearable/tolerable] for Tyre and Sidon than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum [C a town in Galilee where Jesus lived and ministered], will you be ·lifted up to [honored/exalted in] heaven? No! you will be thrown down to ·the depths [the place of the dead; L Hades; Is. 14:13, 15]. If the ·miracles [powerful deeds] ·I did [L that occurred] in you had happened in Sodom [C a city God destroyed because the people were so evil; Gen. 19], it would ·still be a city [L have remained until] today [C because its people would have repented and judgment averted]. 24 But I tell you, on the judgment day it will be ·better [more bearable/tolerable] for [L the region/land of] Sodom than for you.”
@Jubei Yang You should study Christianity more.You should know that the Bible was written for everyone not just believers:www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/stewart_don/faq/bible-special/question18-to-whom-was-the-bible-written.cfm
My response to this video is me putting my right pointing finger up to my lips and going up and down really fast while blowing (humming). Having said that, I love your vids, even when I can't keep up, 'cause you have a wonderful ministry of showing the truth the Lord has revealed to you. God bless!
@@halfgrain He thinks its more like focusing on the material things, instead of the spiritual ones. But materialism thinks matter is all that exists, spirits or souls are illusions for materialists.
It's also good to mention forensic science here. Forensic science is premised on the idea that the laws of nature tell us what will happen *so long as no one interferes*. It doesn't tell us whether or not someone *will* interfere or *did* interfere.
@@Mutantcy1992 note that he said "helped", not "forced" or something like that. as long the teacher just showed him a different side instead of straight up bullshiting his head then it's not the same thing.
Miracles seem to be like hacking, hm? This is consistent with the idea you've put forth in other videos about reality being non-material, like a mind of some sort--or a cosmic computer.
@@InspiringPhilosophy it's evident that materialism is dead. I believe on the mental nature of the universe, so if we find a way to connect ourselves with that mind of God/universe, would that be the same as us ascending to Heaven/Paradise??
@@viniciusbueno2160 That part on connecting with the universe is weird that's pantheism InspiringPhilosophy has a whole video on that lol but keep watching lol
Miracles are still happening today. You can reason all you want, but what happens, happens, and cannot deny it. St. Nektarios, whom has fallen asleep in the Lord, and yet we observe his activity still through miracles, continues to bend the ear of God to heal people through his intercessions on behalf of those who supplicate him even to this day. The Theotokos (God-bearer and God-birther), Mary, also continues to evidence her prayers for us in leading the Churches and monasteries and also sending forth healings from God to those who ask with faith. There is even a monastery on Mount Athos that has no abbot, for the Virgin Mary is the abbess, and she is the one who settles disputes among the monastic brethren.
Miracles do happen, but as another commenter mentioned, rarely to those who do not believe in God, or the possibility that He works them. I think it's because "a wicked and adulterous generation seeks a sign,"that is, he refused to genuflect to intellect of the arrogant, and give them a sign to satisfy them. I'm sure there are exceptions however. And of course, those for whom a miracle would only increase culpability.
"Why don't as many miracles happen today?" You have no idea how many times I've heard this question. You actually gave me the definitive answer at 12:45! Thank you!
The only issue I take with the bell curve idea is the fact that what you speak of is no longer a miracle. What it is is the natural probability playing out. It allows for it, but also allows that it may just be natural processes & thus provides the atheist ample space to claim it natural, not supernatural. Either way, God can use these ideas in great ways. God Bless friend.
As an atheist, i take a keen interest in miracle claims (ie: something that defies the known laws of physics), I've heard countless claims of miraculous events and occurrences, but I've yet to see any credible evidence. You have to take into account that fact that some people who say they've witnessed a miracle have simply been mistaken, we humans have a propensity to sometimes believe we've seen something out of the ordinary (miraculous), when in fact there is a perfectly rational and natural explanation, it's happened to me on countless occasions, in the past I was prepared to accept a supernatural explanation, but now I take a much more skeptical view. I'd love to hear of any accounts of what someone would describe as a *genuine* miracle. Even as a skeptic, i do not totally rule out the possibility, but as of yet, I've not been convinced.
+Irving Nestor Hi Irving, thanks for the google link, yes i did look at both the images, and the reports of this Zeitoun miracle claim. For you, it may have been very convincing, but I'm afraid it didn't have that same convincing ring to it. I was quite underwhelmed at the images, many of them just appeared to be fuzzy lights. For the Catholic church, they love these kinds of 'apparitions' as it keeps the faithful believing, it's funny how in virtually all Catholic countries almost all of them have similar claims of sightings of the Virgin Mary. Confirmation bias plays a huge role in what people see, similar in a way that people who look for UFO's will generally find mysterious lights in the sky. Also, you have to ask, why appear on top of buildings in the half light, or in darkened grotto's?. I'm afraid my skepticism isn't affected by any of these kind of claims.
+bonnie43uk Hi friend! I would agree with you normally that this subject warrants massive scrutiny, but I don't think some of your objections to this specific miracles are valid: 1. Zeitoun is in Egypt. Egypt is certainly not a Catholic country. There is no confirmation bias here as the apparitions persisted for YEARS and many people (Muslims, non-Catholics, agnostics, etc.) reported the same experience. 2. The church which the apparition happened is a Coptic church, not a Catholic one. Yes, while Coptics do also venerate Mary, I don't think this is a good objection for confirmation because of the diverse amount of people who saw it. 3. How are the images unconvincing? They are not blobs, but very well-defined. Maybe you're referring to the fact that many are overexposed images, which would be expected if the accounts are correct to how bright she appeared. It would be hard to properly expose such a bright object especially with the film camera technology common to the time. Please look at these images and get back to me: photos1.blogger.com/blogger/8011/1267/1600/zeitun.jpg luisapiccarreta.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Egypt1.jpg This is not the classic, "My potato chip kinda looks like Mary." This is a persistent miracle that REPEATED OVER YEARS and attracted thousands of people of all different backgrounds. It's not just a static hologram-type figure. She, by hundreds of accounts, moved around in very human ways and made motions that people recognized as blessing the crowds. Read the Wikipedia page. Look at the sources that are cited. Friend, I am a fellow skeptic and came to Christ as a massive skeptic, and I do not expect you to follow the same path because of a single miracle, but I know also know how stubborn one can hold on to a status quo understandings. Skeptics in the Egyptian Government attempted to disprove it and find the source in a search radius of a few miles, but found nothing that could project her. Here is their conclusion that is a verified miracle: www.zeitun-eg.org/pg0016.htm All the best!
+Irving Nestor Hi Irving, thanks for your links and comments, I'm afraid i still find those images unconvincing, sorry, but as much as I'd like to believe they were true, as I said, they underwhelm me. Why does the virgin Mary always appear to have a light around her head?, this just seems to have been taken from classic artists paintings of Mary to show her divine-ness. If she did appear in Zeitoun in 1968 I'm sure we would have much better imagery than what we've got. Film crews from all over the world would have turned up and filmed it, do we have any clear cine footage?. Why appear on a church roof?, why not mingle with the crowds and even converse with them?, allow the crowds to take hundreds of photographs. You asked me to look at the Wikipedia report, i did, there was a skeptic observer who witnessed nothing out of the ordinary according to Wiki. Yes, Egypt is indeed mainly Islamic, but in the 1960's it had a fairly large Catholic population, hence the church being there. You say she ( Mary) moved around the crowds and blessed people.. where are the photo's of her doing this? When was the last time she appeared?, and do we have any credible video or photographic evidence of a recent visitation?. If she came back in the last 5 years or so, imagine all the thousands of people with camera's on their phones, we'd get some excellent HD detailed images, why do you think this hasn't happened? Thousands of people supposedly witnessing an event is not proof it happened, people are prone to all kinds of confirmation bias as I said before, we can also believe 100% we have seen something when in fact it turns out to be something quite mundane, this has happened to me on numerous occasions. If you really delve a little deeper, there is normally a quite innocent explanation for supposed supernatural occurrences. But I'm always on the lookout for the genuine thing.
+bonnie43uk Hi, I just saw your response. I understand that it seems too strange for you. This is not even the most convincing miracle by far (I suggested this if you are one to understand things better with images). The MOST convincing miracle is certainly the resurrection of Jesus Christ of Nazareth in first century Judea. Don't believe me? Keep investigating with your critical eye my friend. If you keep searching honestly, you will find Him. If your worldview persists on pure skepticism, you will go on an interminable road of saying "prove it" until you cannot even prove there is value in the words you are saying, much less the people you are speaking to. You will ask "prove it" until you cannot even prove that the linguistic structure of the classic "I think, therefore I am" yields any truth value. In fact, this is the inevitable road without the Truth that is God. Because without Him as our base, there is no foundation for existence or reality. Because God in his very nature IS Existence-- He is Being-- the great "I AM". Otherwise, relativism will consume you until life has been sucked of its value. Rather than this, let God be your base for understanding the world, allowing you to be a better skeptic of reality, because all your "prove it"s will terminate in the Wisdom of God. I know my rambling sounds sort of fanatic to you, but I was once in your very same mindset, and a Christian I ended up because I was open-minded and dug for the answers honestly.
According to Richard Dawkins, the leading poster child of atheism, "it is possible for the statue of liberty to wave it's arm if all the atoms in the arm moved in one direction at the same time. This is so unlikely that if you spent 4.5 billion years writing zeroes for the number to express this probability, you still would not have written enough zeros to match this number" - Richard Dawkins. If the statue waved, it would technically be possible within the laws of nature, albeit unthinkably unlikely. But anyone who witnessed this would have called it an impossible miracle.
The most curious thing is that scientists (physicists) increasingly use the word "counterintuitive". This is mostly used in quantum. I think the real question is: What are the laws of nature? or if they really exist.
Interesting way of putting things. My thoughts are a bit more straight forwards: A man, any man, who thinks he knows all the laws of nature, is an arrogant fool. For everything that we know in this century, we might only know a small decimal of a small fraction, of all the laws of nature, that exist, and impact thing. So the question is; _If a tree falls in the forest, but no one hears it, has that tree fallen... or did it never exist as a tree, but only as a decaying log?_ At best, we only observe the causal effects, of the interactions within the laws of nature. Even in Quantum mechanics, we only get a slight peek, at the actual laws themselves. Our perception, no matter how rock-solid it is to us _(like falling off a cliff and being shattered to pieces),_ is still only our finite perception, not all of reality, only a percentage of reality. My thinking is that Jesus meant more than what he was asked, when he replied, _"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”_ So, there is no limit on miracles, only God's will. And for that matter; every day of our lives, is a miracle unfolding.
"spiritual experiences" and "miracles" are not synonymous, a strong feeling of the Holy Spirit is categorically different than the Resurrection or the Parting of the Red Sea. And people report that they they have felt the presence of the dead, while Christianity denies such a possibility. I am Christian.
I would mot say that miracles are impossible. That is a claim that would require evidence. Nor would I say that miracles are possible, that has the same evidenciary burden. I would say that Hume's invocation of human experience as an criteria for the assessment of miracles is hopelessly parochial. If we define a miracle as being an event in defiance of physical law then I would say that was impossible. If you define a miracle as being in defiance of KNOWN physical law that is something else. Just because we can't explain something now does not mean we will never be able to explain it. Science has advanced by the effort to explain the previously inexplicable. To my knowledge there have been no actual properly verified cases of a miracle. Does anyone have an example of such?
A miracle is the suspension of the natural order, or laws of nature. If God set, and holds those laws in place by way of divine decree, what is to prevent God from temporarily suspending those laws? If God is truly omnipotent over His creation, then "naturally" supernatural events are possible. If God wanted us to know He acted in a moment in time, such a supernatural event should actually be expected. The irony...the very mechanism God uses to mark His activity, is the very evidence used to reject Him.
The problem is that we currently have no way to establish what is actually a miraculous, supernatural, event and what is simply an unexplained natural event. Without that, all you can do is simply assert that an unexplained event is supernatural origin, and I don't see how you can justify such a conclusion. So please, if you have a methodology for determining supernatural causation, I'd love to hear about it.
I do agree with the arguement you present and possibly add a consideration. One notes - including most all scientists - that new discoveries of 'natural laws' occur from time to time, thus changing the understanding of the rules. At one time some medical men of the time stated man could not survive speed in excess of 25 miles per hour. That has obviously been changed. The speed of light was thought to be infinite by the early Greek thinkers. That has been changed. So, it is reasonable to assume some - if not all - natural laws will undergo revision in the future. Also, I have heard some reasonable explanation for the parting of the Red Sea. A great volcanic eruption causing an earthquake and generating tidal waves in the Mediterranean caused the ebb and flow causing the parting of the waters. To me, that is not a problem. The God I serve controls the volcanoes and so forth. The miraculous part is the timing. This of course offends those who reject science at all costs and essentially interferes with the systems He designed and created.
I guess Hume would deny that one could press a button on a metal tube and illuminate an object 2 kms away then a bomb from the sky descends and hits that exact target, destroying it, with no observable human intervention. As Clarke says: any sufficiently advanced technology looks like magic to the unschooled.
I recommend you watch the video that he attached to this called "Does God Really Act?" If you are really interested and want resources at the end of that video it also has more resources on some books as well on the subject.
***** Um.. randomness is kinda the definition of chaos. Also I did not conclude that miracles are random events. IP argued that miracles are simply highly improbable events rather than a violation of natural laws which begs the question: how then do you know that they are not just random events as opposed to a miracle?.
I really like these presentations but the background music is so intrusive that it's hard to follow the actual content... please take this into consideration when creating content. Thank you
I'm left wondering how the extremely improbability of certain things happening by quantum chance would be the reason why miracles are 'naturally possible', considering you also mentioned the fact that if God were to do this 'too often', the probabilities would change. Not only does this seem to undermine the freedom of God greatly, but also, the chance of things like a human walking on water is so astronomically small (I'm not sure that's even the correct term), that even a few seconds of that happening, I would expect that to change the probabilities quite a bit.
+SVVN Well, no, because God could just change science if he Freely wanted to. He is not forced to keep the probability distribution as is. Plus, as I said in the video, this things could only come about if an agent forced them to through his will, they would not be caused by chance itself.
I’m still confused as to how miracles don’t interfere with the Stable World Theodicy? Are they mutually exclusive? And if so, why would God allow “natural evil”/tragedy in particular?
The only thing odd about this video is that is somehow equates "defeating Humes' case against the possibility of miracles" with "defeating the case against their possibility", which is obviously problematic even if no other case in that direction has ever been produced. Not only that, the video also confuses the word "possibility" here since Hume's case (AFAIK and even considering the video's material) was not against the possibility of miracles as such, but against knowing if they occurred or not (i.e. it's a epistemic case, not a metaphysical one), something the author "mixed" during the video. Appart from that, nice work!
+Martin Bittencourt I don't think so. Hume was never very clear in what he meant but did try to derive a metaphysical truth from his argument, not just an epistemic status. C. M. Lorkowski, writing in the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, says, "The interpretation of this passage requires considerable care. As many commentators have pointed out, if Hume’s argument is: a miracle is a violation of a law of nature, but laws of nature do not admit of counterexamples, therefore there are no miracles, then Hume clearly begs the question. Call this the Caricature Argument... a final difficulty related to the modality of the conclusion concerns the observation that Hume couches his argument in terms of appropriate belief. Hume’s conclusion should, therefore, be interpreted as epistemic, but the Caricature Argument instead requires a metaphysical conclusion: miracles are impossible." Hume began this by blending the epistemic with the metaphysical. How could I not, if it is Hume I am critiquing? See more here: www.iep.utm.edu/hume-rel/ John Earman says the same thing in his book, “There is an even more obvious and troubling puzzle about Hume’s first definition: If a miracle is violation of a law of nature, then whether or not the violation is due to the intervention of the Deity, a miracle is logically impossible since, whatever else a law of nature is, it is an exceptionless regularity.” If Hume means our experience is meant to justify what we can say about miracles then I would agree with Earman that he has defined them out of existence because they are out of our experience. Where exactly is Hume drawing the line between our experience and metaphysics?
The explanation of the improbability vs. impossibility of "miracles" happening is well done in this video. However, this actually backfires on the argument for divine intelligence. Christopher Hitchens once said, “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Logically, since the probability of such unusual occurrences happening is incredibly low, we ought to dismiss them if they are merely orally reported without any empirical (and I stress empirical) evidence. So even if we know they might happen (and that's the weakest "might" I can ever say), we know it is of even lesser probability that they happened in the way/form that holy books claim they did.
A statistical impossibility is defined as *_“a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument."_* (*The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80.) The probability of a functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more *Rational and Reasonable* to conclude that the cell was not formed by undirected random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that undirected random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.) A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what many of the world’s top scientists _‘must’_ believe in and promote because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, materialistic ideology / worldview. Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic subjective ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millenia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by discoveries in Quantum Physics.
The miracles,or plagues that troubled Egypt in Moses day were all natural events and each precipitated the events that naturally followed. There was no violation of natures laws,quite the contrary. What was miraculous was the intensity of the events and most importantly the timing and their "coincidental" occurrences.
Nice. So if miracles violate the laws of known nature, then its simply the laws of nature that needs updating. Unless we understand these laws, which we may never, then we can classify them as supernatural. Not defying, but transcending the known laws.
for the religious folk, there are never too many miracles. for the scientific folk..as long as miracles are kept out of the lab, they could not care about personal beliefs.
The eternal Triune God is transcend and can do whatever he will because he is the most Almighty. He does not consent with his creatures, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Godman has the right to do his good pleasure, the message of the Cross is offensive to the natural man but it is the only one which will ever sinners the wrath to God. Science can and will never define what God can or not do. Repentance and faith in the risen king Christ Jesus is the only thing needed to be saved.
When love forgives the miracle of faith happens (and every miracle is a miracle of faith - no wonder, therefore, that along with faith miracles have also been abolished!) That "what is seen is, by being forgiven, not seen. It is blotted out, it is forgiven and forgotten, or as Scripture says, of what God forgives, it is hidden behind his back. Soren Kierkegaard, Works of Love, Hong p. 295 (Isaiah 28:17) Isn't forgiveness a miracle?
You don't need to. It debunks itself. The Quran says to go to the people of the book (the Christians) for knowledge and that the Bible is Allah's Holy Book too. This poses a problem for Islam. The Quran and the Bible teach VERY different things. So either Allah is a liar, and a deceiver (which he is. His name is Satan) or their book is false and their god is a false god
13.22 Its possible for a meal to appear boltzam brain style Its possible for rain to curve Michelangelo's david. But those are so improbable no thinking person would expect them has explanation for those events But those are so unlikely that n
You should watch AronRa's series called *"Refuting the Irrefutable Proof of God"*. It's really laughable and funny, if you do watch it, please tell me what you thought!
Is this really an interesting question? Do any atheists say that EVEN IF GOD EXISTED miracles would be impossible? I don't think that is a widely held view. I think the battleground is whether miracles really happen, not whether they are possible given an agent intervening from outside the system.
FriendlyBanjoAtheist well i think the point is that many Christians face the objection of “it was impossible for Jesus to do this.” What this video says is that we should not assume it was impossible, but instead take it as a viable option that Jesus rose from the dead and debate the evidence from there. That way we can have a neutral starting ground for the discussion. If the evidence points in favour of the miracle’s truth well then that’s a strong argument for a supernatural entity. (The reverse of what you said, where God proves miracles, miracles can prove God).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this video is also a response to the many "miracle", "creationism", or "resurrection" related posts by nonbelievers online (UA-cam etc.) correct? While I've read a lot on these, is anyone here willing to start a detailed discussion on the atheists' views/rebuttals against them? (for the sake of familiarizing everyone with the ideas)
As far as I remember, Hume’s argument against miracles is not to say that miracles aren’t possible; rather, he is making an epistemological claim rather than a metaphysical claim. That is, he claims that if there is an event that seems like a miracle (or seems to contradict the laws of nature), the rational thing to think always will be that you have made a mistake, or that something has gone wrong and you are mistaken. So to say that Hume doesn’t “prove” that miracles don’t exist is a strawman, since (if my memory serves me right) that isn’t something he argues.
Sooo, IP, it is logically possible that God with his glory and mercy touched on a poor woman and during her conception saved her from sin of Adam; then, cuz she was shaded by grace of God, He prevented sin to enter her life, what lead to child birth that was not subjected under "curse" of Eve or sin, and in the end He took her up into heavens rather then leaving her body to rot? Don't mind my little provocation ;). Great video, as always!!! PS But hey, my question still stands!
It is indeed logically possible. However when Jesus claims all humans have sinned, He doesn't make an exception for her, only for God, so unless she is God, He is claiming her to be a wicked sinning wretch deserving of Hell, just like you or me. (I apologize if the language seems harsh, but that really is the truth about us, as recounted by Jesus Himself.) Now we know God doesn't lie (because He has earned our trust, and He has told us that He doesn't lie), so either Mary is God or she is a sinner. If I had grown up being told a person was perfect, only to rebuked for believing so, with the claim that Hell was such a person's own making, that she could earn herself nothing more than an eternity in Sheol, that all the works of her sinful flesh were no more than foolish in the sight of her Creator, I would probably feel offended too. But the same would probably be true if I grew up believing that I could do no wrong, that all the desires of my heart were worth chasing, and that evil is unfairly taking away someone's earthly pleasures, and was told that I was a contemptable wretch, who deals in abominations and atrocities, who deserves nothing more than to die and be left in misery for all eternity for rejecting the teachings recorded in a Book written thousands of years ago on the other side of the world by scientifically illiterate Jews. And if I were living thousands of years ago, if someone were convinced that diseases are caused by tiny living blobs who could split themselves in half to reproduce, that slamming two chunks of a heavy metal together could cause enough light and heat to be released that an entire city might be destroyed, and that a tiny lever could be constructed that would harness the power of lightning drawn from a fire (the same power of lightning also existing within our own bodies) to cause a candle-like light to appear on the ceiling inside of a small glass container, I would probably call him a madman. Regardless of our feelings, these things are all true. Our rejection of them is emotional, and not always rational. Sometimes, the truth hurts, but it can also set you free. My takeaway is this: Traditions are not fundamentally bad, but no tradition wrought by humans is perfect and God has not perfectly established any human traditions. Therefore, and tradition will contradict God, and it's adherents must choose between it and God, and the correct choice is always God. If you believe the Catholic tradition to be perfect, I suggest you watch Mike Winger and his critiques of Catholic authority claims. One could also submit the internal criticisms that Catholic tradition contradicts itself, as not all allegedly canon authorities are in agreement (see the current Pope not being Catholic). Then we do have to consider how much Mariology is derived from Gnostic attitudes (the Gnostics going as far as to claim she was born of a virgin as well), and that it might be a worldly distortion of divine truth. I don't say this with any animosity towards Mary or Joseph (I tend to think they seem pretty cool), but I only wish to share the truth. Take care! :)
Would it not break the laws of nature for Jesus to turn water in to wine, walk on water and his molecules to come back to raise him from the dead? Serious question, I’m a Christian.
To break a natural law such events would have to happen within the confines of the laws themselves. Miracles are caused by supernatural agents, not natural laws. So natural laws do not apply. A good analogy is a cheat code in a video game. It is caused by an outside source of code, not the code specific for the game.
SuperCal Those are all based on human values, I can change my personal definition of what 2=2=7 is and it's no longer impossible. Same with definitions of square amd circle. It has to be something outsode of human creation.
Detective Denis On a system that isn't base 10 that could work. However, again, these are all human created issues. We can't rate possibility on things we define ourselves.
I have both experienced a miracle first hand and seen a miracle.
Jesus healed me from depression.
One of our goats had a twisted stomach, she went down with it , couldn’t stand. She was dying. I prayed for her that God would either heal her or let her die quickly so she wouldn't suffer. I left to milk the other goats. While milking I was listening to a preacher on the radio and he was talking about praying in and for all things. He gave an example list of what praying for all things might include and I said out loud that would include my goats instantly peace washed over me. I finished up milking and went to check on the one who was dying from a twisted stomach. She was trying to get to her feet, her stomach was no longer twisted she was healed. She's still alive today reminding me of the goodness of God.
Hey IP. Before I found your videos, I had a very hard time believing in god. Your videos have not only helped me believe in him, but to also know him.
God bless and happy new year.
+crosshunter724 Thanks for letting me know, I helps keep me going. God Bless
InspiringPhilosophy
You are truly inspiring!
Martin G I agree with all those other than premise one. A man is "word"? Anthrpormorphism much? lol
Martin G aorry typo
Martin G More specifically it would be "fallacy of anthropomorphic equivocation" as well as the general "fallacy of false equivalence"
Miracles aren’t always causing a blind man to see or making water appear. My fiancé being given to me by God when I don’t deserve his mercy or her, is a miracle. I say amen to that.
Then you're using a different definition for a miracle. It wasn't a suspension of the laws of nature, and it definitely doesn't require any divine intervention.
@@bullpuppy7455 That's amazing! Is that from your denomination's catechism or creed or something? I would be interested in reading more about this. Thanks for sharing. Take care!
@@bullpuppy7455 I'd already found it from your other comment and downloaded the PDF, lol! XD
I have to ask, are you part of a liberal/progressive/New Age denomination? I say this because while I do find some of their insights to be occasionally inspiring (sometimes in a slightly different context, than it was meant but it really does seem like they consistently miss the bigger picture, like the reality of sin and the historicity of the Resurrection. I'm not a hard literalist (in that I assume everything from the Bible to be automatically literal, like the YECs do), but it's pretty clear some passage were intended very literally, such as Exodus and the Gospels, judging by the literary nature of the text and the confirmation by archaeological inquiry. I'm not here to attack anyone (although I do have harsh words for false prophets who lead the sheep astray), but rather wish only to find and share the truth.
No offence but that's not a miracle
I understand that what you’ve received is special and certainly a gift from God, but by definition it is not a miracle. A miracle is something that defies the laws of our understanding of the physical world. The two things you mentioned do that; you meeting your fiancée does not.
It just 3 years ago.. but today it is still inspiring me..
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The atheists that deny miracles aren't the ones I have issue with, it's the Christians that do.
+SoCalExile It's just as C.S. Lewis put it. If supernatural, divine intervention in the everyday world were found to be impossible, improbable, or irrelevant, Hinduism, Islam, and perhaps (modern) Judaism would remain largely unaffected. Christianity on the other hand, to even fundamentally make sense, requires at least two miracles: (1) the Incarnation and Virgin Birth, and (2) the Resurrection.
As a side note, miracles would be even more necessary for Catholic/Eastern Orthodox Christians, given their deep emphasis on the saints and the sacraments.
With respect to you every religion is established because of supernatural events or people who had multiple miracles....Hinduism miracle Vedas and Krishna....Islam had a supernatural liar Mohammad....Judiasm had Abraham walking with God then 4-5 centuries later Moses then about 1,000 later the Kabbahla...Buddhism needed the Buddha and followed by 80 roughly Bodistivas. The Yoga Sutras of Pantanjali refer to a list of miraculous powers due to a person observing God's laws and also honoring him in all people. Finally Jesus Christ stated, "I and My Father are One, ... also, All that the Father is I am. " Then compare to Upanishads descriptions of Humans who attains or becomes divinity a Jivanmukti in state of Turiya some call it Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi
It is fairly bizarre. One book I want to read is Craig Keeners book; Miracles.
That doesn't even make any sense when you think about it. A Christian who denies Miracles could not even be a Christian, because they would have to deny the very miracle that makes Christianity even possible.
@@DecKrash Yes the resurrection Of Jesus >>>>
IP, you are one of the main reasons i went from agnosticism to Catholic Christianity. God Bless you!
Thank you so much. Can I share your comment on my page if i block out your name?
@@InspiringPhilosophy Sure! :)
But catholics are wrong in their teachings........mate......im not judging but my only request for you is Read The BIBLE
And try to Know God.....and Understand What Bible Teaches......
Francisco Litvay it may be a good start there until you find that what's more biblical is when you start studying and examining the Scripture yourself other than relying on traditional catholicism. Evangelical Christianity has a guts on this.
@@franciscolitvay6293 just check on the traditions of catholic church and the Bible
The festivals and celebrations
The infant baptism
The mass
The confession
Nothing is from the Bible
Plz check on some videos of RAY COMFORT
How he preach GOSPEL to CATHOLICS
This is basically how Mods work in video games. God is essentially dragging and dropping "miracles" and new aspects to the system, and by the laws of nature they can come into effect. The initial programming of the world or video game is still there but if you add something new it doesn't change the game, it's just new content that can be experienced due to the world it's in.
Good explanation, it’s like two computer programs debating wether the Computer programmer can add new code into the already existing code.
Short answer, of course he can, he’s the programmer.
Amazing example
My wife, after a decade of brain surgery, suffering, and multiple neurologists not having any idea what to do... only needed the touch of a Child of God from India with faith, knowing Holy Spirit so beautifully and personally, released healing fully into her body. As a Biological Scientist in a highly analytical work environment, was blown away by witnessing this miracle, and even more the neurologists had to confess the same when they saw the breakthrough. Miracles are still for today.... I am still humbled beyond the description of what I have seen tasted and experienced during my wife's journey.
Everyone reading this is an unbroken chain from creation from the fundamental building of the universe through the first living thing and eons of life. Your existence is a miracle.
It's hard to convince someone who has n ever experienced a miracle that they are possible. Even harder to convince someone who has experienced one that they are not.
Hey, it's me, someone who has experienced miracles and now believes no miracle was ever actually a miracle.
One of the best videos I have seen in a long time. Very informative. God bless
Thanks you so muchhh!!!!!
I can't stop from thanking you dude! Everytime atheists videos try to let me become an atheist your videos push me back to the faith! You've encouraged me to read the bible, to do my own research, to counter atheists claims.
God bless you IP!
Hey, I know this video is years old, but after being shakened by my philosophy of religion professor's lecture (primarily based on Hume's On Miracles), I find your answers rationally satisfactory. So, thank you, Michael. I've been consuming your work for years and it has been really helpful in my philosophical inquiries.
God bless you and your ministry.
Let me just say, I witnessed 2 miracles in my life. I thought of atheism a few times but theses held me back............. God doesnt show miracles to unbelievers usually. Jesus said "a wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign"........ God entrusted me with this cause I already believed. God also doesnt really do miracles in the west cause the west won't believe either way. Hard hearts over here yet I saw them in the west.
He also promoted the killing of chidren and rape of women en Isaia.
@@ivansnyman3832 God didn't promote that. God was just saying events that would happen in certain prophecied events. Just because the Bible records events doesn't mean God supports it.
@Jubei Yang How do you know Jesus was addressing the believers.The Bible is written for everyone,not just believers.
"Jesus Said:Not everyone that says Lord,Lord Will get into the Kingdom of God..."Continue...
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"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
What is the Will of the Father?
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For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."
A Believer already did this and they are made New in Christ and pass out of Judgment into life according to the Bible.
So,I Will be happy that I accepted Jesus and so shall the rest of us
@Jubei Yang Matthew 11:20-24 Expanded Bible (EXB)
Jesus Warns Unbelievers
20 Then Jesus began to ·criticize [denounce; reproach] the cities where he did ·most [so many] of his ·miracles [powerful deeds], because the people did not ·change their lives and stop sinning [repent]. 21 He said, “·How terrible for [L Woe to] you, Korazin! ·How terrible for [L Woe to] you, Bethsaida! If the same ·miracles [powerful deeds] ·I did [L that occurred] in you had happened in Tyre and Sidon [C cities in Phoenicia notorious for their wickedness], those people would have ·changed their lives [repented] a long time ago. ·They would have worn rough cloth and put ashes on themselves to show they had changed [L …in sackcloth/burlap and ashes; C signs of sorrow and deep remorse]. 22 But I tell you, on the judgment day it will be ·better [more bearable/tolerable] for Tyre and Sidon than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum [C a town in Galilee where Jesus lived and ministered], will you be ·lifted up to [honored/exalted in] heaven? No! you will be thrown down to ·the depths [the place of the dead; L Hades; Is. 14:13, 15]. If the ·miracles [powerful deeds] ·I did [L that occurred] in you had happened in Sodom [C a city God destroyed because the people were so evil; Gen. 19], it would ·still be a city [L have remained until] today [C because its people would have repented and judgment averted]. 24 But I tell you, on the judgment day it will be ·better [more bearable/tolerable] for [L the region/land of] Sodom than for you.”
@Jubei Yang You should study Christianity more.You should know that the Bible was written for everyone not just believers:www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/stewart_don/faq/bible-special/question18-to-whom-was-the-bible-written.cfm
My response to this video is me putting my right pointing finger up to my lips and going up and down really fast while blowing (humming). Having said that, I love your vids, even when I can't keep up, 'cause you have a wonderful ministry of showing the truth the Lord has revealed to you. God bless!
People should post their physical responses more.
Existence itself is a miracle
Buh!... But muh atheistic materialism! ;_;
That comment was fucking awesome! ;)
language!
@Darth Quantum I don't think you understand what materialism means in the sense that we use it here
@@halfgrain He thinks its more like focusing on the material things, instead of the spiritual ones. But materialism thinks matter is all that exists, spirits or souls are illusions for materialists.
Bro you really deserves million of subcribers let God bless you. You are so smart then any chrisitan defenders.
It's also good to mention forensic science here. Forensic science is premised on the idea that the laws of nature tell us what will happen *so long as no one interferes*. It doesn't tell us whether or not someone *will* interfere or *did* interfere.
Joshua moritz was my professor and helped bring me out of atheism 🙏
My condolences
@@late8641 'congratulations'.
Ugh these leftist professors indoctrinating college students...
@@Mutantcy1992 note that he said "helped", not "forced" or something like that. as long the teacher just showed him a different side instead of straight up bullshiting his head then it's not the same thing.
@@jonathacirilo5745 how is a professor going to force ideas into students' heads? Of course it is "helped"
Miracles seem to be like hacking, hm? This is consistent with the idea you've put forth in other videos about reality being non-material, like a mind of some sort--or a cosmic computer.
+Spencer Gage Exactly
@@InspiringPhilosophy it's evident that materialism is dead. I believe on the mental nature of the universe, so if we find a way to connect ourselves with that mind of God/universe, would that be the same as us ascending to Heaven/Paradise??
@@viniciusbueno2160 That part on connecting with the universe is weird that's pantheism InspiringPhilosophy has a whole video on that lol but keep watching lol
@@305thief8 i'm okay with doing that, i'm not a bible thumper
@@viniciusbueno2160 But that doesn't mean Pantheism is true lol. which it clearly is not.
As someone with real experience, miracles and divinity are real but only the worthy are capable of wielding such power.
Great video dude. Love the C.S Lewis quotes.
This must be a response to guys like AronRa. Thanks.
No, miracles are not naturally possible. That's what makes them miracles when they do occur.
Miracles are still happening today. You can reason all you want, but what happens, happens, and cannot deny it. St. Nektarios, whom has fallen asleep in the Lord, and yet we observe his activity still through miracles, continues to bend the ear of God to heal people through his intercessions on behalf of those who supplicate him even to this day. The Theotokos (God-bearer and God-birther), Mary, also continues to evidence her prayers for us in leading the Churches and monasteries and also sending forth healings from God to those who ask with faith. There is even a monastery on Mount Athos that has no abbot, for the Virgin Mary is the abbess, and she is the one who settles disputes among the monastic brethren.
Awesome vid! Thanks for sharing:)
Jones, 4 years later, and this is still your best video.
Nice IP, btw I am back. I have been reexamining my faith.
A bit unpersuasive at the beginning, but you came through at the end. A video worth sharing as always.
Miracles do happen, but as another commenter mentioned, rarely to those who do not believe in God, or the possibility that He works them. I think it's because "a wicked and adulterous generation seeks a sign,"that is, he refused to genuflect to intellect of the arrogant, and give them a sign to satisfy them. I'm sure there are exceptions however. And of course, those for whom a miracle would only increase culpability.
12:18 God’s power is shrinking before our eyes.
It finally came out .
Constipation sucks, doesn't it.
"Why don't as many miracles happen today?" You have no idea how many times I've heard this question. You actually gave me the definitive answer at 12:45! Thank you!
How do you make every video PERFECT?
The only issue I take with the bell curve idea is the fact that what you speak of is no longer a miracle. What it is is the natural probability playing out. It allows for it, but also allows that it may just be natural processes & thus provides the atheist ample space to claim it natural, not supernatural.
Either way, God can use these ideas in great ways. God Bless friend.
As an atheist, i take a keen interest in miracle claims (ie: something that defies the known laws of physics), I've heard countless claims of miraculous events and occurrences, but I've yet to see any credible evidence. You have to take into account that fact that some people who say they've witnessed a miracle have simply been mistaken, we humans have a propensity to sometimes believe we've seen something out of the ordinary (miraculous), when in fact there is a perfectly rational and natural explanation, it's happened to me on countless occasions, in the past I was prepared to accept a supernatural explanation, but now I take a much more skeptical view. I'd love to hear of any accounts of what someone would describe as a *genuine* miracle. Even as a skeptic, i do not totally rule out the possibility, but as of yet, I've not been convinced.
Google "Our Lady of Zeitoun"
Do an image search after you've read up on it. Very convincing...
+Irving Nestor Hi Irving, thanks for the google link, yes i did look at both the images, and the reports of this Zeitoun miracle claim. For you, it may have been very convincing, but I'm afraid it didn't have that same convincing ring to it. I was quite underwhelmed at the images, many of them just appeared to be fuzzy lights. For the Catholic church, they love these kinds of 'apparitions' as it keeps the faithful believing, it's funny how in virtually all Catholic countries almost all of them have similar claims of sightings of the Virgin Mary. Confirmation bias plays a huge role in what people see, similar in a way that people who look for UFO's will generally find mysterious lights in the sky. Also, you have to ask, why appear on top of buildings in the half light, or in darkened grotto's?. I'm afraid my skepticism isn't affected by any of these kind of claims.
+bonnie43uk Hi friend! I would agree with you normally that this subject warrants massive scrutiny, but I don't think some of your objections to this specific miracles are valid:
1. Zeitoun is in Egypt. Egypt is certainly not a Catholic country. There is no confirmation bias here as the apparitions persisted for YEARS and many people (Muslims, non-Catholics, agnostics, etc.) reported the same experience.
2. The church which the apparition happened is a Coptic church, not a Catholic one. Yes, while Coptics do also venerate Mary, I don't think this is a good objection for confirmation because of the diverse amount of people who saw it.
3. How are the images unconvincing? They are not blobs, but very well-defined. Maybe you're referring to the fact that many are overexposed images, which would be expected if the accounts are correct to how bright she appeared. It would be hard to properly expose such a bright object especially with the film camera technology common to the time.
Please look at these images and get back to me:
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This is not the classic, "My potato chip kinda looks like Mary." This is a persistent miracle that REPEATED OVER YEARS and attracted thousands of people of all different backgrounds. It's not just a static hologram-type figure. She, by hundreds of accounts, moved around in very human ways and made motions that people recognized as blessing the crowds. Read the Wikipedia page. Look at the sources that are cited. Friend, I am a fellow skeptic and came to Christ as a massive skeptic, and I do not expect you to follow the same path because of a single miracle, but I know also know how stubborn one can hold on to a status quo understandings.
Skeptics in the Egyptian Government attempted to disprove it and find the source in a search radius of a few miles, but found nothing that could project her. Here is their conclusion that is a verified miracle: www.zeitun-eg.org/pg0016.htm
All the best!
+Irving Nestor Hi Irving, thanks for your links and comments, I'm afraid i still find those images unconvincing, sorry, but as much as I'd like to believe they were true, as I said, they underwhelm me. Why does the virgin Mary always appear to have a light around her head?, this just seems to have been taken from classic artists paintings of Mary to show her divine-ness. If she did appear in Zeitoun in 1968 I'm sure we would have much better imagery than what we've got. Film crews from all over the world would have turned up and filmed it, do we have any clear cine footage?. Why appear on a church roof?, why not mingle with the crowds and even converse with them?, allow the crowds to take hundreds of photographs. You asked me to look at the Wikipedia report, i did, there was a skeptic observer who witnessed nothing out of the ordinary according to Wiki.
Yes, Egypt is indeed mainly Islamic, but in the 1960's it had a fairly large Catholic population, hence the church being there. You say she ( Mary) moved around the crowds and blessed people.. where are the photo's of her doing this? When was the last time she appeared?, and do we have any credible video or photographic evidence of a recent visitation?. If she came back in the last 5 years or so, imagine all the thousands of people with camera's on their phones, we'd get some excellent HD detailed images, why do you think this hasn't happened?
Thousands of people supposedly witnessing an event is not proof it happened, people are prone to all kinds of confirmation bias as I said before, we can also believe 100% we have seen something when in fact it turns out to be something quite mundane, this has happened to me on numerous occasions. If you really delve a little deeper, there is normally a quite innocent explanation for supposed supernatural occurrences. But I'm always on the lookout for the genuine thing.
+bonnie43uk Hi, I just saw your response. I understand that it seems too strange for you. This is not even the most convincing miracle by far (I suggested this if you are one to understand things better with images). The MOST convincing miracle is certainly the resurrection of Jesus Christ of Nazareth in first century Judea. Don't believe me? Keep investigating with your critical eye my friend. If you keep searching honestly, you will find Him. If your worldview persists on pure skepticism, you will go on an interminable road of saying "prove it" until you cannot even prove there is value in the words you are saying, much less the people you are speaking to. You will ask "prove it" until you cannot even prove that the linguistic structure of the classic "I think, therefore I am" yields any truth value. In fact, this is the inevitable road without the Truth that is God. Because without Him as our base, there is no foundation for existence or reality. Because God in his very nature IS Existence-- He is Being-- the great "I AM". Otherwise, relativism will consume you until life has been sucked of its value. Rather than this, let God be your base for understanding the world, allowing you to be a better skeptic of reality, because all your "prove it"s will terminate in the Wisdom of God.
I know my rambling sounds sort of fanatic to you, but I was once in your very same mindset, and a Christian I ended up because I was open-minded and dug for the answers honestly.
Nailed it, I think any honest person would find it hard to disagree
Being outside the powers of natural law does not constitute violation of natural law. Brilliant.
According to Richard Dawkins, the leading poster child of atheism, "it is possible for the statue of liberty to wave it's arm if all the atoms in the arm moved in one direction at the same time. This is so unlikely that if you spent 4.5 billion years writing zeroes for the number to express this probability, you still would not have written enough zeros to match this number" - Richard Dawkins.
If the statue waved, it would technically be possible within the laws of nature, albeit unthinkably unlikely. But anyone who witnessed this would have called it an impossible miracle.
Short answer: Yes I've seen them.
The most curious thing is that scientists (physicists) increasingly use the word "counterintuitive". This is mostly used in quantum. I think the real question is: What are the laws of nature? or if they really exist.
Interesting way of putting things. My thoughts are a bit more straight forwards: A man, any man, who thinks he knows all the laws of nature, is an arrogant fool. For everything that we know in this century, we might only know a small decimal of a small fraction, of all the laws of nature, that exist, and impact thing. So the question is; _If a tree falls in the forest, but no one hears it, has that tree fallen... or did it never exist as a tree, but only as a decaying log?_ At best, we only observe the causal effects, of the interactions within the laws of nature. Even in Quantum mechanics, we only get a slight peek, at the actual laws themselves. Our perception, no matter how rock-solid it is to us _(like falling off a cliff and being shattered to pieces),_ is still only our finite perception, not all of reality, only a percentage of reality. My thinking is that Jesus meant more than what he was asked, when he replied, _"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”_ So, there is no limit on miracles, only God's will. And for that matter; every day of our lives, is a miracle unfolding.
"spiritual experiences" and "miracles" are not synonymous, a strong feeling of the Holy Spirit is categorically different than the Resurrection or the Parting of the Red Sea. And people report that they they have felt the presence of the dead, while Christianity denies such a possibility. I am Christian.
What if miracles are just reprogrammed atoms, rearranging and manifesting its intended effects on this universe, hence doing the work of God?
I would mot say that miracles are impossible. That is a claim that would require evidence. Nor would I say that miracles are possible, that has the same evidenciary burden. I would say that Hume's invocation of human experience as an criteria for the assessment of miracles is hopelessly parochial. If we define a miracle as being an event in defiance of physical law then I would say that was impossible. If you define a miracle as being in defiance of KNOWN physical law that is something else. Just because we can't explain something now does not mean we will never be able to explain it. Science has advanced by the effort to explain the previously inexplicable. To my knowledge there have been no actual properly verified cases of a miracle. Does anyone have an example of such?
You wanna know what miracle is? The science saying telling us the universe came from nothing..
A miracle is the suspension of the natural order, or laws of nature. If God set, and holds those laws in place by way of divine decree, what is to prevent God from temporarily suspending those laws? If God is truly omnipotent over His creation, then "naturally" supernatural events are possible. If God wanted us to know He acted in a moment in time, such a supernatural event should actually be expected. The irony...the very mechanism God uses to mark His activity, is the very evidence used to reject Him.
The problem is that we currently have no way to establish what is actually a miraculous, supernatural, event and what is simply an unexplained natural event. Without that, all you can do is simply assert that an unexplained event is supernatural origin, and I don't see how you can justify such a conclusion.
So please, if you have a methodology for determining supernatural causation, I'd love to hear about it.
Excellent work...Thanks!...
9.30 this just raises the problem of proving that a out side source has intervened
I do agree with the arguement you present and possibly add a consideration. One notes - including most all scientists - that new discoveries of 'natural laws' occur from time to time, thus changing the understanding of the rules. At one time some medical men of the time stated man could not survive speed in excess of 25 miles per hour. That has obviously been changed. The speed of light was thought to be infinite by the early Greek thinkers. That has been changed.
So, it is reasonable to assume some - if not all - natural laws will undergo revision in the future.
Also, I have heard some reasonable explanation for the parting of the Red Sea. A great volcanic eruption causing an earthquake and generating tidal waves in the Mediterranean caused the ebb and flow causing the parting of the waters. To me, that is not a problem. The God I serve controls the volcanoes and so forth. The miraculous part is the timing. This of course offends those who reject science at all costs and essentially interferes with the systems He designed and created.
The physical realm is said to be digital simulation
So God Being Spirit can do Anything!
Within His Own attributes love truth life
Thank you.
David Hume was not a skeptic of skepticism
I guess Hume would deny that one could press a button on a metal tube and illuminate an object 2 kms away then a bomb from the sky descends and hits that exact target, destroying it, with no observable human intervention. As Clarke says: any sufficiently advanced technology looks like magic to the unschooled.
No. But they still happen!
Inspired!
Theories that depend on human computation sounds like a mere drama..
There is no such thing as miracles. It is a natural part of humanity but we forgot who we truly are.
Thank you for all your videos, they have helped a lot.
So if miracles are just improbable things happening in nature, how do you know that they have anything to do with God?
I recommend you watch the video that he attached to this called "Does God Really Act?" If you are really interested and want resources at the end of that video it also has more resources on some books as well on the subject.
+Austen Green God is the most likely candidate by far.
+InspiringPhilosophy Um...no. A random accidental event best explained by chaos theory would be.
+Aron Featherf00t First, Randomness doesn't mean chaos. Second, how did you conclude that miracles are (random) events?
***** Um.. randomness is kinda the definition of chaos. Also I did not conclude that miracles are random events. IP argued that miracles are simply highly improbable events rather than a violation of natural laws which begs the question: how then do you know that they are not just random events as opposed to a miracle?.
I really like these presentations but the background music is so intrusive that it's hard to follow the actual content... please take this into consideration when creating content. Thank you
The video is from 7 years ago 😂 it was what's in for background music at the time of content creation
I'm left wondering how the extremely improbability of certain things happening by quantum chance would be the reason why miracles are 'naturally possible', considering you also mentioned the fact that if God were to do this 'too often', the probabilities would change. Not only does this seem to undermine the freedom of God greatly, but also, the chance of things like a human walking on water is so astronomically small (I'm not sure that's even the correct term), that even a few seconds of that happening, I would expect that to change the probabilities quite a bit.
+SVVN Well, no, because God could just change science if he Freely wanted to. He is not forced to keep the probability distribution as is. Plus, as I said in the video, this things could only come about if an agent forced them to through his will, they would not be caused by chance itself.
Good video IP. I like this one!
Elvis was seen multiple times after his death..amen
Very helpful! Thanks brother.
Wow. 100 k subscribers.
Good work.
"The All is Mind. The universe is mental." - The Kybalion. Of course miracles are possible.
@@bullpuppy7455 Jesus never said that
Can a miracle be established in a way that is not an argument from ignorance?
I appreciate how well - read and researched your videos always are!
I’m still confused as to how miracles don’t interfere with the Stable World Theodicy? Are they mutually exclusive? And if so, why would God allow “natural evil”/tragedy in particular?
The only thing odd about this video is that is somehow equates "defeating Humes' case against the possibility of miracles" with "defeating the case against their possibility", which is obviously problematic even if no other case in that direction has ever been produced. Not only that, the video also confuses the word "possibility" here since Hume's case (AFAIK and even considering the video's material) was not against the possibility of miracles as such, but against knowing if they occurred or not (i.e. it's a epistemic case, not a metaphysical one), something the author "mixed" during the video.
Appart from that, nice work!
+Martin Bittencourt I don't think so. Hume was never very clear in what he meant but did try to derive a metaphysical truth from his argument, not just an epistemic status.
C. M. Lorkowski, writing in the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, says, "The interpretation of this passage requires considerable care. As many commentators have pointed out, if Hume’s argument is: a miracle is a violation of a law of nature, but laws of nature do not admit of counterexamples, therefore there are no miracles, then Hume clearly begs the question. Call this the Caricature Argument... a final difficulty related to the modality of the conclusion concerns the observation that Hume couches his argument in terms of appropriate belief. Hume’s conclusion should, therefore, be interpreted as epistemic, but the Caricature Argument instead requires a metaphysical conclusion: miracles are impossible." Hume began this by blending the epistemic with the metaphysical. How could I not, if it is Hume I am critiquing? See more here: www.iep.utm.edu/hume-rel/
John Earman says the same thing in his book, “There is an even more obvious and troubling puzzle about Hume’s first definition: If a miracle is violation of a law of nature, then whether or not the violation is due to the intervention of the Deity, a miracle is logically impossible since, whatever else a law of nature is, it is an exceptionless regularity.” If Hume means our experience is meant to justify what we can say about miracles then I would agree with Earman that he has defined them out of existence because they are out of our experience. Where exactly is Hume drawing the line between our experience and metaphysics?
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Very well done :D.
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The explanation of the improbability vs. impossibility of "miracles" happening is well done in this video. However, this actually backfires on the argument for divine intelligence. Christopher Hitchens once said, “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Logically, since the probability of such unusual occurrences happening is incredibly low, we ought to dismiss them if they are merely orally reported without any empirical (and I stress empirical) evidence. So even if we know they might happen (and that's the weakest "might" I can ever say), we know it is of even lesser probability that they happened in the way/form that holy books claim they did.
+Rune Scape I didn't offer evidence for miracles yet. I'll begin that in the next video.
+InspiringPhilosophy Looking forward to that.
A statistical impossibility is defined as *_“a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument."_* (*The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80.) The probability of a functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more *Rational and Reasonable* to conclude that the cell was not formed by undirected random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that undirected random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.)
A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what many of the world’s top scientists _‘must’_ believe in and promote because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, materialistic ideology / worldview.
Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic subjective ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millenia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by discoveries in Quantum Physics.
The miracles,or plagues that troubled Egypt in Moses day were all natural events and each precipitated the events that naturally followed. There was no violation of natures laws,quite the contrary. What was miraculous was the intensity of the events and most importantly the timing and their "coincidental" occurrences.
Nice. So if miracles violate the laws of known nature, then its simply the laws of nature that needs updating. Unless we understand these laws, which we may never, then we can classify them as supernatural. Not defying, but transcending the known laws.
And on religious influence in Enlightenment period
See here: ua-cam.com/video/dgESPmh-TxY/v-deo.html
for the religious folk, there are never too many miracles. for the scientific folk..as long as miracles are kept out of the lab, they could not care about personal beliefs.
Great video! Thanks and God bless your work!
The eternal Triune God is transcend and can do whatever he will because he is the most Almighty. He does not consent with his creatures, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Godman has the right to do his good pleasure, the message of the Cross is offensive to the natural man but it is the only one which will ever sinners the wrath to God. Science can and will never define what God can or not do. Repentance and faith in the risen king Christ Jesus is the only thing needed to be saved.
Greet video God bless
When love forgives the miracle of faith happens (and every miracle is a miracle of faith - no wonder, therefore, that along with faith miracles have also been abolished!) That "what is seen is, by being forgiven, not seen. It is blotted out, it is forgiven and forgotten, or as Scripture says, of what God forgives, it is hidden behind his back. Soren Kierkegaard, Works of Love, Hong p. 295 (Isaiah 28:17)
Isn't forgiveness a miracle?
you should debunk islam
+Samuel Chamberlin
i know david wood and he did amazing but i would also like to see this guy doing it
and the more people the better
You don't need to. It debunks itself. The Quran says to go to the people of the book (the Christians) for knowledge and that the Bible is Allah's Holy Book too. This poses a problem for Islam. The Quran and the Bible teach VERY different things. So either Allah is a liar, and a deceiver (which he is. His name is Satan) or their book is false and their god is a false god
David Hume says it's never been seen before however what about Lazarus there was witnesses
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Its possible for a meal to appear boltzam brain style
Its possible for rain to curve Michelangelo's david.
But those are so improbable no thinking person would expect them has explanation for those events
But those are so unlikely that n
Love your videos but that back ground music was to much
You should watch AronRa's series called *"Refuting the Irrefutable Proof of God"*.
It's really laughable and funny, if you do watch it, please tell me what you thought!
Maybe I'll do a podcast on that once I get that started.
Alright! Have you watched it yet though? You don't have to give me your opinion, I just want to know.
Thanks!
Is this really an interesting question? Do any atheists say that EVEN IF GOD EXISTED miracles would be impossible? I don't think that is a widely held view.
I think the battleground is whether miracles really happen, not whether they are possible given an agent intervening from outside the system.
FriendlyBanjoAtheist well i think the point is that many Christians face the objection of “it was impossible for Jesus to do this.” What this video says is that we should not assume it was impossible, but instead take it as a viable option that Jesus rose from the dead and debate the evidence from there. That way we can have a neutral starting ground for the discussion. If the evidence points in favour of the miracle’s truth well then that’s a strong argument for a supernatural entity. (The reverse of what you said, where God proves miracles, miracles can prove God).
yes absolutely "miracles" happen. yes yes and yes
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this video is also a response to the many "miracle", "creationism", or "resurrection" related posts by nonbelievers online (UA-cam etc.) correct? While I've read a lot on these, is anyone here willing to start a detailed discussion on the atheists' views/rebuttals against them?
(for the sake of familiarizing everyone with the ideas)
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As far as I remember, Hume’s argument against miracles is not to say that miracles aren’t possible; rather, he is making an epistemological claim rather than a metaphysical claim. That is, he claims that if there is an event that seems like a miracle (or seems to contradict the laws of nature), the rational thing to think always will be that you have made a mistake, or that something has gone wrong and you are mistaken. So to say that Hume doesn’t “prove” that miracles don’t exist is a strawman, since (if my memory serves me right) that isn’t something he argues.
Sooo, IP, it is logically possible that God with his glory and mercy touched on a poor woman and during her conception saved her from sin of Adam; then, cuz she was shaded by grace of God, He prevented sin to enter her life, what lead to child birth that was not subjected under "curse" of Eve or sin, and in the end He took her up into heavens rather then leaving her body to rot?
Don't mind my little provocation ;). Great video, as always!!!
PS
But hey, my question still stands!
Are you arguing for the dogma of Virgin Birth?
It is indeed logically possible. However when Jesus claims all humans have sinned, He doesn't make an exception for her, only for God, so unless she is God, He is claiming her to be a wicked sinning wretch deserving of Hell, just like you or me. (I apologize if the language seems harsh, but that really is the truth about us, as recounted by Jesus Himself.) Now we know God doesn't lie (because He has earned our trust, and He has told us that He doesn't lie), so either Mary is God or she is a sinner.
If I had grown up being told a person was perfect, only to rebuked for believing so, with the claim that Hell was such a person's own making, that she could earn herself nothing more than an eternity in Sheol, that all the works of her sinful flesh were no more than foolish in the sight of her Creator, I would probably feel offended too. But the same would probably be true if I grew up believing that I could do no wrong, that all the desires of my heart were worth chasing, and that evil is unfairly taking away someone's earthly pleasures, and was told that I was a contemptable wretch, who deals in abominations and atrocities, who deserves nothing more than to die and be left in misery for all eternity for rejecting the teachings recorded in a Book written thousands of years ago on the other side of the world by scientifically illiterate Jews. And if I were living thousands of years ago, if someone were convinced that diseases are caused by tiny living blobs who could split themselves in half to reproduce, that slamming two chunks of a heavy metal together could cause enough light and heat to be released that an entire city might be destroyed, and that a tiny lever could be constructed that would harness the power of lightning drawn from a fire (the same power of lightning also existing within our own bodies) to cause a candle-like light to appear on the ceiling inside of a small glass container, I would probably call him a madman. Regardless of our feelings, these things are all true. Our rejection of them is emotional, and not always rational. Sometimes, the truth hurts, but it can also set you free.
My takeaway is this: Traditions are not fundamentally bad, but no tradition wrought by humans is perfect and God has not perfectly established any human traditions. Therefore, and tradition will contradict God, and it's adherents must choose between it and God, and the correct choice is always God. If you believe the Catholic tradition to be perfect, I suggest you watch Mike Winger and his critiques of Catholic authority claims. One could also submit the internal criticisms that Catholic tradition contradicts itself, as not all allegedly canon authorities are in agreement (see the current Pope not being Catholic). Then we do have to consider how much Mariology is derived from Gnostic attitudes (the Gnostics going as far as to claim she was born of a virgin as well), and that it might be a worldly distortion of divine truth. I don't say this with any animosity towards Mary or Joseph (I tend to think they seem pretty cool), but I only wish to share the truth. Take care! :)
Yes they are possible, but are they plausible?
Would it not break the laws of nature for Jesus to turn water in to wine, walk on water and his molecules to come back to raise him from the dead? Serious question, I’m a Christian.
To break a natural law such events would have to happen within the confines of the laws themselves. Miracles are caused by supernatural agents, not natural laws. So natural laws do not apply. A good analogy is a cheat code in a video game. It is caused by an outside source of code, not the code specific for the game.
InspiringPhilosophy ok, thanks for the clarification!
Miracles are impossible that's what make them miracles.
Is anything actually impossible?
+Patrick Hogan A square circle is not logically possible or 2=2=7 is impossible.
SuperCal Those are all based on human values, I can change my personal definition of what 2=2=7 is and it's no longer impossible. Same with definitions of square amd circle. It has to be something outsode of human creation.
SuperCal Also, 2x0=2x0=7x0 is antrue statement by traditional math.
Divide the whole thing by zero, cancel the zeros, and the equation can equal 2=2=7
9+10=21
Detective Denis On a system that isn't base 10 that could work.
However, again, these are all human created issues. We can't rate possibility on things we define ourselves.