I love Vince, watch his streams regularly, enjoy his content. But man, the decks he plays on Commander Clash deserve all the hate he so complains about getting with this group. It's hard to tell how serious he is with his indignation but it feels like he doesn't get people don't enjoy lock pieces/stax that you can tutor up with your commander. We had about thirty minutes where 3 of the players were sitting on their thumbs unable to do anything while the fourth player whinged that he was being unfairly targeted. Like Tomer says, Vince was definitely the Villain this week.
@@PleasantKenobi you could bring a flavorful deck that would be fun for the viewers to watch... instead stax deck number 23 that breaks the flavor and banlist
@CakeOmNom The point is it's a card whos entire purpose to prevent people playing the game. The same reason they don't play mass land destruction is the same reason it should be soft banned. And seth being five color does nothing because he's playing to theme and that means he doesn't have that much removal because he's playing to the rules they set for the week
I think the theme was fun but the decks were way too unbalanced in power level and it really hurt the game’s entertainment value. and OF COURSE Vince won using a kind of Stax effect...
Honestly disappointed in Vince. -Says he’ll play a shitty, Legends commander. -Has yet to. -Sees a thumbnail with a shitty, Legends commander. -Not Vince’s...
@@violetblight69 I'm aware But that's not the real ban list That's the real ban list, with some alterations I understand it. I just don't agree with it personally.
@@EM-pn5kq Fast mana shouldn't be legal in the first place all it does is enable broken combos. Fair ramp makes the game a lot better to watch and play and do you really want to watxh every game turn into Cyclonic Rifts and Insurrections? They're banned because they're trying to make it entertaining not trying to make the most powerful decks possible
@@gwenyurick9663 as I said I understand But I disagree Strong cards are fun and entertaining. I'm not asking for cEDH I'm asking for commander that isn't watered down And insurrection isn't even good in my mind. It takes somewhat specific situations to be good.
"Why are you targeting me Crim?" - Vince. Erm, because you told him you would destroy Blackblade then immediately untap and then don't Vince? Do you think that might be why?
Clearly @PleasantKenobi doesn't play the same kind of Commander as this group. Maybe Vince doesn't need to sub in as often or at least he should save his try-hards for 1-on-1. Watching 3 out of 4 people not play magic isn't good viewing.
They stopped doing Legendary Lands because the Legend Rule they had at the time was awful, and would occasionally turn lands into mandatory strip mines
Vince was definitely the hero here. Shutting down blue is always the heroic thing to do. And despite the other player's salt, his deck was awesomely on theme with all the heroic legendary creatures. Sweet deck, happy that he stood victorious as the hero we needed.
Season 6 Leader Board Point structure is as follows: (+6 WINNER, +4 Second, +2 Third, +0 Fourth, +1 First Blood, +1 Archenemy). In ties, all players split the total points of the places evenly. Game 11: Crim: 47 + 2 (+2 Second 3-p Tie) Richard (Vince): 49 + 8 (+6 WINNER, +1 First Blood, +1 Archenemy) Seth: 57 + 2 (+2 Second 3-p Tie) Tomer: 41 + 2 (+2 Second 3-p Tie) ____________________________________________________ Final Scores: Seth: 59 Richard: 57 Crim: 49 Tomer: 43
People say Iona should be banned, but then you look and see that the others are playing 3-4 and 5 color decks. Its kind of their fault they got hard locked. Like Vince said, they lean way to heavily on blue when it is in their deck.
Hel (Or Hela) is one of the three descendants from loki: Fefnir, Jormungander and hel. Marvel movies changed this to make Loki, Thor and Hela siblings for...some reason.
Ready? Vince plays Nicol Bolas deck, no banned cards, complete free build.......VS....Other 3, soft bans included, each person picks a main story Walker to embody. And Vince gets extra choices of cards to ban, just to balance a little more. THEN, Seth as Ugin vs 3. You know what I mean, work with it
Vince ruined the game with that iona, i dont even know why that card is still legal in commander, we didnt get to see people having fun cause iona just stopped then, that was gross. Tomer please do not allow that card to be played in commander Clash anymore.
Seth.. all you need to know for superheroes.. they have emotional issues they can't resolve with superpowers so they avoid their issues by obsessively waiting for something bad to happen so they can use their powers and distract themselves from their real problems. But eventually their real problems catch up to them.. (Think of an escape fantasy story (what people watch to forget their lives), where the plot is about a character who is living an escape fantasy to escape his/her life :P)
🎶believe it or not, Tomer is not at home so leave a message at the beep. I must be out or I'd pick up my phone. Where could I beeee? Believe it or not, I'm not home!🎶 Hail Phyrexia!
Ok well I mean I love Vince but lying in commander is kinda not ok if you say you’re gonna do something and you don’t because it doesn’t benefit you it’s kinda cheap. :/
Everyone on Clash is great. But as a fanatic for Stax, Hatebears and 'fair' magic, it's always a treat to have Vince 'betterknownaspleasantkenobi' on the internet back on the show!
I know this one wasn't a Tommer deck but, it matches Tommer style of stretching the reason to use the card into a certain thematic. So, I hope at some point Tommer will play a stretch superhero theme dech. I think ill prepare a list for the next viewer submited week.
Is archenemy format on mtgo? if so, I want, nay, NEED Commander Clash Endgame in this format. And Vince you are in fact Thanos in this match. #VinceDidNothingWrong
Viiiiince --- quit making excuses and cut the damn banned cards. No one likes seeing your overpowered decks and your plethora of excuses as to why it's okay. Maybe Vince needs to get banned huh?
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"Vince is playing house-banned cards." - Tomer with Cyclonic Rift in hand
Ixalan Tomer made my day lol
Yar I'm a pirate
SaffronOlive - My job here is done.
Others - But you've done nothing...
SaffronOlive - *Flicks cape then walks away*
If you haven't done so already, please invite editor to play Commander Clash.
Is Tomer not the editor anymore?
@@robertabugelis3962 I don't think so, he used to be but isn't anymore
I think the editor is Richard
Crim: -Misses land drop-
Everyone: "He's up to something, we have to stop him."
It's not the missed land drop, it's the evil cackle that comes with it
Can we get Phyrexian Tomer? He was supposed to be compleated about a year ago, but I haven't seen him.
Atraxa reanimator
No, as regular tomer is phyrexian tomer
Crim: ....
Everyone: "He's going to combo kill us"
Isn't it obvious? Vince isn't playing a SHIELD deck. It's been infiltrated by HYDRA.
Oh man, missed opportunity on building a Hydra deck.
Definitely thought Tomer was just going to describe war of the spark the same as end game 😂😂
Same here, what a twist.
I mean, “Commence the Endgame” is a card name in WAR...
Narset, enlightened master as ancient one from doctor strange
I love Vince, watch his streams regularly, enjoy his content. But man, the decks he plays on Commander Clash deserve all the hate he so complains about getting with this group. It's hard to tell how serious he is with his indignation but it feels like he doesn't get people don't enjoy lock pieces/stax that you can tutor up with your commander. We had about thirty minutes where 3 of the players were sitting on their thumbs unable to do anything while the fourth player whinged that he was being unfairly targeted.
Like Tomer says, Vince was definitely the Villain this week.
Commander Clash: Let's make funny super-hero themed decks!
Vince: Hey guys I brought stax again!
I brought balance to this universe.
@@PleasantKenobi the Thanos we needed and that Tomer deserved... (sorry Tomer) >:)
@@PleasantKenobi you could bring a flavorful deck that would be fun for the viewers to watch... instead stax deck number 23 that breaks the flavor and banlist
@@PleasantKenobi *Huge fucking eyeroll*
Vince needs to learn to love the jank.
Who would have thought that the flavourless spike deck wins...
Idk, everyone had some pretty flavourful cards, Vince with the skysovereign and Crim with the cloak of invisibility...
And Tomer playing cyclonic rift
3 very flavorful decks and a sisay deck.... Iona did not make it better.
Yeah.... I get the idea that it's legendary tribal that's like heroes but it was just a sissay was
Yea, iona is a shitty card to bring to a casual commander game already. And he was also just playing a sissay deck. No theme
@CakeOmNom The point is it's a card whos entire purpose to prevent people playing the game. The same reason they don't play mass land destruction is the same reason it should be soft banned. And seth being five color does nothing because he's playing to theme and that means he doesn't have that much removal because he's playing to the rules they set for the week
Seth: makes an all capes deck
Edna: NO CAPES!
I think the theme was fun but the decks were way too unbalanced in power level and it really hurt the game’s entertainment value. and OF COURSE Vince won using a kind of Stax effect...
It really blows when the themes aren't followed. This would have been a cool one if everyone got into it.
I feel like Iona should be on the in house ban list. Really not fun to watch
This, leave iona for cEDH.
@@johns832 its not even played in cEDH
Edna would be so very disappointed in you Seth.
Tomer's mischievous laugh is simply heart warming. Made my day, once a week.
I love how Tomer makes himself laugh in the intro. Never change, we love you ❤️
You can know your jokes are good unless you make yourself laugh 😂😂
Came to see the Clash, heard Vince was here, then left.
one of the few commander clashes that i got bored with and bailed. iona is an immediate buzzkill.
Vince and crim were so so on theme. Tommer took a list from someone else. Seth was really the only one on theme 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly disappointed in Vince.
-Says he’ll play a shitty, Legends commander. -Has yet to.
-Sees a thumbnail with a shitty, Legends commander.
-Not Vince’s...
"Such compelling gameplay" he said, sarcastically.
game ended when iona hit the table- why isn't that card on your soft banned list?
Why is anything on the soft ban list?
I'd rather they just use the actual ban list
Edward Motley they do use the real ban list, they just have fast mana and Rift banned for better, more fair viewing
@@violetblight69 I'm aware
But that's not the real ban list
That's the real ban list, with some alterations
I understand it. I just don't agree with it personally.
@@EM-pn5kq Fast mana shouldn't be legal in the first place all it does is enable broken combos. Fair ramp makes the game a lot better to watch and play and do you really want to watxh every game turn into Cyclonic Rifts and Insurrections? They're banned because they're trying to make it entertaining not trying to make the most powerful decks possible
@@gwenyurick9663 as I said
I understand
But I disagree
Strong cards are fun and entertaining.
I'm not asking for cEDH
I'm asking for commander that isn't watered down
And insurrection isn't even good in my mind. It takes somewhat specific situations to be good.
you guys should play Arch enemy, with Vince as the arch enemy. Then he will legitly be the hated one :P
Why is the deck with Jodah not the one called Doctor Strange?
I am 10 minutes into the video and already disappointed that nobody went with Bosh, as Iron Man... I mean c'mon guys, he is literally an iron man!
Tomer that is a Shrek 3 reference not Shrek 2.
"Why are you targeting me Crim?" - Vince.
Erm, because you told him you would destroy Blackblade then immediately untap and then don't Vince? Do you think that might be why?
Ban Iona. Vince playing something like Iona then you`ll always be the villian.
Hey- the rules committee beat them to it for once!
Edna Mode disapproves of Seth's deck.
NO CAPES!
With WAR out, someone should definitely play the planeswalker that stops drawing extra crass just to troll Tomer and seth, lol
Thank you for the video! All of you friends are super awesome! Oh, moments in this video are sad.
Cloak/cape tribal, Mono painlands, and a Ragnar goodstuff deck vs Captain Sisay and the strongest Avenger, Iona.
Iona basically is captain Marvel lmao
I just watched Infinity war and now I can finally watch this episode
Aw Crim! I was petitioning for Teferi’s Puzzle Box and Chaos Wand on Twitch
Why does Vince get a Gia's Cradle you ask? Because "I am Groot" 😂
Seth needs to watch The Incredibles... No capes! They were your downfall.
So Crim, what are you playing ?
Oh grixis, focus Crim
Clearly @PleasantKenobi doesn't play the same kind of Commander as this group. Maybe Vince doesn't need to sub in as often or at least he should save his try-hards for 1-on-1. Watching 3 out of 4 people not play magic isn't good viewing.
Its soo funny that Seth actually ended up having the best commander that referenced Dr Strange cause of how Endgame turned out 🤣🤣🤣
They stopped doing Legendary Lands because the Legend Rule they had at the time was awful, and would occasionally turn lands into mandatory strip mines
They still come up on occasion.
Vince was definitely the hero here. Shutting down blue is always the heroic thing to do. And despite the other player's salt, his deck was awesomely on theme with all the heroic legendary creatures. Sweet deck, happy that he stood victorious as the hero we needed.
Season 6 Leader Board
Point structure is as follows: (+6 WINNER, +4 Second, +2 Third, +0 Fourth, +1 First Blood, +1 Archenemy).
In ties, all players split the total points of the places evenly.
Game 11:
Crim: 47 + 2 (+2 Second 3-p Tie)
Richard (Vince): 49 + 8 (+6 WINNER, +1 First Blood, +1 Archenemy)
Seth: 57 + 2 (+2 Second 3-p Tie)
Tomer: 41 + 2 (+2 Second 3-p Tie)
____________________________________________________
Final Scores:
Seth: 59
Richard: 57
Crim: 49
Tomer: 43
Thanks, Timothy!
@@tomerabramovici32 You're welcome as always. And hang in there, you can still catch up :)
Where's Homelands Tomer?
I love looing at the comments for commander clash because I like that Vince responds to people on here.
People say Iona should be banned, but then you look and see that the others are playing 3-4 and 5 color decks. Its kind of their fault they got hard locked. Like Vince said, they lean way to heavily on blue when it is in their deck.
Tomer: *Has a Thor deck*
Not a single lightning bolt or strike
I thought for sure Vial Smasher was supposed to be Rocket.
The intro was great! Keep them going :D
Missed opportunity to make a Ragnar Rhox deck.
Very menacing giggles, Ixalan Tomer!! 😁
Hel (Or Hela) is one of the three descendants from loki: Fefnir, Jormungander and hel.
Marvel movies changed this to make Loki, Thor and Hela siblings for...some reason.
Carlos Alonso Interesting... Now is that a history fact? Or a comic book fact? I believe Marvel’s version IS the comic book version
@@everydaykronicler9974 on the comic books, hel is loki's daughter. On myths loki was Odin's brother (not blood), oath brother or something like that
Legion is the best marvel ip.
Ready? Vince plays Nicol Bolas deck, no banned cards, complete free build.......VS....Other 3, soft bans included, each person picks a main story Walker to embody. And Vince gets extra choices of cards to ban, just to balance a little more. THEN, Seth as Ugin vs 3. You know what I mean, work with it
Tomer had cyclonic rift. That's soft banned and that tropical island
Wow, Tomer was able to pick a spookier deck than he himself would build
Vince, also known as PleasantKenobi on the internet, only has one flavor; salt.
Vince ruined the game with that iona, i dont even know why that card is still legal in commander, we didnt get to see people having fun cause iona just stopped then, that was gross. Tomer please do not allow that card to be played in commander Clash anymore.
in mythology and comics Hela is Loki's daughter...they changed it for the film
I thought we were done with Vince 🙄
Little miffed that Tomer put literally 0 effort into his deck.
Thank goodness I watched Endgame all ready.
Seth.. all you need to know for superheroes.. they have emotional issues they can't resolve with superpowers so they avoid their issues by obsessively waiting for something bad to happen so they can use their powers and distract themselves from their real problems. But eventually their real problems catch up to them..
(Think of an escape fantasy story (what people watch to forget their lives), where the plot is about a character who is living an escape fantasy to escape his/her life :P)
What are they playing on..?
Magic online
"Led zeppelin is one of my favourite bands" my man vince! I respect your taste in music.
Seth just made Edna Mode have a stroke xD
So, I'm obliged to be this person, but the whole time Seth was explaining his deck I was just staring at Jace thinking "Oh look, it's Cloak Boy"
I very much enjoyed that intro xD
Also, just maybe, JUST MAYBE, don't have Vince as a guest?
Brutal.
@@PleasantKenobi You do better when you stick to your brit lane.
Big fan of your legacy content btw.
Little does Seth know, there is a TV series with a superhero known as The Cape that was released in 2011.
This week is End Game week. Next week is Commence the End Game week. Similar, yet different.
Waiting for Mirrodin Tomer
🎶believe it or not, Tomer is not at home so leave a message at the beep. I must be out or I'd pick up my phone. Where could I beeee? Believe it or not, I'm not home!🎶
Hail Phyrexia!
can you please stop inviting Vince? I would prefer just 3 players.
Since when do you get to decide what they d o? DR
Tomer Tomer Tomer, you gotta cross reference the soft banlist with the deck first! I see that cyclonic rift
Comment made at 10 minutes in
I hope Mrs. Mulligan makes a return
This is why I play Ersatz Gnomes in every deck
Jodah should have been Dr. Strange 🤷♂️
Your pirate acting still better than Johnny depps
I am 13 minuets in and I am loving this episode lol
It goes down hill fast :(
Ok well I mean I love Vince but lying in commander is kinda not ok if you say you’re gonna do something and you don’t because it doesn’t benefit you it’s kinda cheap. :/
He did that as a tongue-in-cheek response to Crim reneging on an agreement in the last game
Crim literally died to me two weeks ago. He deserved it.
Its just a game...
PleasantKenobi ahhh ok didn’t see that episode. 100 percent deserved it
Brandon Bagley yup understandable
Tomer you should have taken elesh norn!! Punts! Misplays! Unsubscribe! Jk i love you, keep those awesome intros coming please ❤
Everyone on Clash is great. But as a fanatic for Stax, Hatebears and 'fair' magic, it's always a treat to have Vince 'betterknownaspleasantkenobi' on the internet back on the show!
Richard should make a deck with the new Tolsimir as the commander, but have it based around scout tribal instead of the obvious ...
I love Vince, but please don't invite him anymore. He makes the games seem more toxic
I don't watch super hero movies either. Seth you're my real life hero!
vince was secretely playing secret invasion using skrulls to inmitate hero's
Iona totally killed the game. You could've won without it, but it feels too easy
I know this one wasn't a Tommer deck but, it matches Tommer style of stretching the reason to use the card into a certain thematic.
So, I hope at some point Tommer will play a stretch superhero theme dech. I think ill prepare a list for the next viewer submited week.
Heros and Super Heros are different things. Stop using that for the off flavor Sissay deck.
I'm waiting for tomer to introduce vince as the British villain of commander clash
If Iona is allowed then AWOL from unhinged should also be allowed. Get that card in the absolutely-removed-from-the-freaking-game-forever zone!
Is archenemy format on mtgo? if so, I want, nay, NEED Commander Clash Endgame in this format. And Vince you are in fact Thanos in this match. #VinceDidNothingWrong
I don't believe it is (or if it is, it doesn't work).
The Fountain on the RTR and GRN Hollowed Fountain is actually the same fountain
I just spent my whole life savings cuz of Ixalan Tomer xD
Viiiiince --- quit making excuses and cut the damn banned cards. No one likes seeing your overpowered decks and your plethora of excuses as to why it's okay. Maybe Vince needs to get banned huh?
You just gonna ignore the cyclonic rift?
Hella from the bay area.
Captain Sisay is 100% nick fury 😂