If you’re a fan of steam or just interested in engineering, I thoroughly recommend David Wardale’s book.From memory his calculations on cost, or notes about cost of steam v diesel was based on South Africa having no local oil production/fields, meaning the price of imported oil (or diesel) made it more expensive when compared to locally sourced coal. Michael Wood’s ‘great railway journeys of the world’ trip in South Africa shows a double header with two class 25’s. Well worth watching.
Great video. While she is standing in the harbour at the moment, hopefully the bureaucracy to get permission to maintain and run her again can be overcome by CRC. It is said, that she was an eager loco and very slippery when starting - but, once underway, was a great loco. Some of my friends who worked on her in service said she should have been converted to a 2-10-4 so that she was a bit weightier. You touched on it in the video, in the local enthusiast community there is great debate on whether to restore her with all modifications or just revert her parts to 25NC status with pros and cons for both sides of the debate. There was an earlier loco, Class 19D, which was first converted with some of these improvements, now sadly scrapped. Sandstone Estates in Ficksburg has what is known as the mini-Red Devil which is a red-painted NGG16 (2ft Gauge) and has the gas-producer firebox and other improvements. Thanks again for the video, nice to see an overseas channel showcasing our stuff!
One of the major improvements you missed is the double ported valves and cylinders. Those improvements made it more powerful and efficient. They also made it slippery and harder to handle.
I still play that. There is a modified version of it from GOG that works on Windows 11. Then you can still get the Hawk and Badger scenario's and updates as well.
It's essentially a 2/3 scale American Northern in most of it's dimensions and figures. The often mentioned power output of 4,500hp is the indicated or in other terms cylinder horsepower, which doesn't take in account the friction and air resistance losses. So the drawbar horsepower of 4,023hp as on the shown stats sheet is correct. The class 26 was able to do the work of two class 34 or 35 EMD or GE diesel locomotives, but I haven't seen a cost and availability comparison either. But I know that at the time this locomotive, and its predecessor experimental and rebuilt class 19D 2644 where Wardale tested some of his ideas on were developed because of the sanctions of many countries against South Africa because of the Apartheid, with a shortage on oil as a result, while SA has an abundance of coal.
Im very reluctant to run video within my postings these days after having my original Niagara removed for Copyright. That's a bummer because that took about 30 minutes off of my video production time.
@@MrStevesTrains The grey area that I was wrong with was whether or not the video falls under fair use. That's what makes it tough.. Especially when you want/need to post a video without having to wait on permission from the owner.
Hi there steam buffs, I've built many HO scale models of this lady in red. See bekkerail on Google. To see running footage of the Red Devil there are many videos on UA-cam.
I was gonna ask if you could cover the steam locomotives of South Africa but you beat me to it Thank you, i can't wait for the class 25 condenser locomotive
Ah-HA! I know what book you were reading from at the start. I have it too! THE GREAT BOOK OF TRAINS by Hollingsworth and Cook We got it about 30 years ago when I was just a toddler. I used to just look at all the pretty pictures, but over time I started to read about a few of the cooler engines. Eventually, I spread out into more and more engines, reading up on all kinds of different locomotives and how they related to each other. I've read the class 26 entry so often that I practically have it memorized, which is how I easily recognized that you were basically reciting that entry from the book. No shame there (you can tell how great it is by virtue of the fact that I'm still going back to it after 30 years and re-reading it all the time), and you clearly added more than a little bit of new content, but you might want to cite your sources at some point.
@@dustin_4501There’s a New Zealander who has developed a rapid steam raising, low emission, water tube boiler for wood fuel. Worth checking out. (Ie Green Steam)
As a South African immigrant railfan living in the US, I am glad you are talking about this. She's a real beut.
You're welcome! I will be posting more and more other Nations steam locomotives.
That fierce machine can rival the S1 Niagaras and the S2 Super Niagara with her efficiency~
If you’re a fan of steam or just interested in engineering, I thoroughly recommend David Wardale’s book.From memory his calculations on cost, or notes about cost of steam v diesel was based on South Africa having no local oil production/fields, meaning the price of imported oil (or diesel) made it more expensive when compared to locally sourced coal. Michael Wood’s ‘great railway journeys of the world’ trip in South Africa shows a double header with two class 25’s. Well worth watching.
Thank you! I do often get into those pubs
Would it be too much to ask for a video on the class 25's condensing tender in the future?
Great video. While she is standing in the harbour at the moment, hopefully the bureaucracy to get permission to maintain and run her again can be overcome by CRC.
It is said, that she was an eager loco and very slippery when starting - but, once underway, was a great loco. Some of my friends who worked on her in service said she should have been converted to a 2-10-4 so that she was a bit weightier.
You touched on it in the video, in the local enthusiast community there is great debate on whether to restore her with all modifications or just revert her parts to 25NC status with pros and cons for both sides of the debate.
There was an earlier loco, Class 19D, which was first converted with some of these improvements, now sadly scrapped. Sandstone Estates in Ficksburg has what is known as the mini-Red Devil which is a red-painted NGG16 (2ft Gauge) and has the gas-producer firebox and other improvements.
Thanks again for the video, nice to see an overseas channel showcasing our stuff!
One of the major improvements you missed is the double ported valves and cylinders.
Those improvements made it more powerful and efficient. They also made it slippery and harder to handle.
Thank you!
It's a shame that this video hasn't been shared!...
love the red devil even during the railroad tycoon 3 days
I still play that. There is a modified version of it from GOG that works on Windows 11. Then you can still get the Hawk and Badger scenario's and updates as well.
ah ok I got the version from steam still works fine
It's essentially a 2/3 scale American Northern in most of it's dimensions and figures.
The often mentioned power output of 4,500hp is the indicated or in other terms cylinder horsepower, which doesn't take in account the friction and air resistance losses.
So the drawbar horsepower of 4,023hp as on the shown stats sheet is correct.
The class 26 was able to do the work of two class 34 or 35 EMD or GE diesel locomotives, but I haven't seen a cost and availability comparison either.
But I know that at the time this locomotive, and its predecessor experimental and rebuilt class 19D 2644 where Wardale tested some of his ideas on were developed because of the sanctions of many countries against South Africa because of the Apartheid, with a shortage on oil as a result, while SA has an abundance of coal.
Yeah... I noticed a distinct lack of head to head performance stats comparing the Devil with modern diesels of the time.
The work done by DLM at Winterthur would be worth a video
It would be interesting to see how an established and successful British design could be upgraded by applying the same principles.
Please talk about the royal hudson next!
We will get there for sure
and/or the Canadian National Bullet nose betty@@TheRailroadCrossing-SteamPower
Very nice looking non American steam locomotive.
I agree
What? No running footage? Beautiful looking engine.
Can we get this built in O-Scale?? 😆
Im very reluctant to run video within my postings these days after having my original Niagara removed for Copyright. That's a bummer because that took about 30 minutes off of my video production time.
@@TheRailroadCrossing-SteamPower isn’t there a time limit of 30 seconds or less per clip before it crosses into a copyright infringement??
@@MrStevesTrains The grey area that I was wrong with was whether or not the video falls under fair use. That's what makes it tough.. Especially when you want/need to post a video without having to wait on permission from the owner.
Hi there steam buffs, I've built many HO scale models of this lady in red. See bekkerail on Google. To see running footage of the Red Devil there are many videos on UA-cam.
There are Niagara vs diesel charts.
The only devil you want...
I like it!
the rebuild of this steam is alive but almost a Henschel locomotive but rebuilt
As it appeared as a class 25?
@@TheRailroadCrossing-SteamPower yes its NC but Henschel rebuilt and painted it as red naming a locomotive red devil
Ahh..okay, I misunderstood what you were saying at the beginning
I was gonna ask if you could cover the steam locomotives of South Africa but you beat me to it
Thank you, i can't wait for the class 25 condenser locomotive
More and more SAR, English and European designs will appear on my channel. Stay tuned! YOU"RE WELCOME!
@@TheRailroadCrossing-SteamPower awesome
Ah-HA! I know what book you were reading from at the start. I have it too!
THE GREAT BOOK OF TRAINS by Hollingsworth and Cook
We got it about 30 years ago when I was just a toddler. I used to just look at all the pretty pictures, but over time I started to read about a few of the cooler engines. Eventually, I spread out into more and more engines, reading up on all kinds of different locomotives and how they related to each other.
I've read the class 26 entry so often that I practically have it memorized, which is how I easily recognized that you were basically reciting that entry from the book. No shame there (you can tell how great it is by virtue of the fact that I'm still going back to it after 30 years and re-reading it all the time), and you clearly added more than a little bit of new content, but you might want to cite your sources at some point.
I've had it a very long time myself.. So yes a lot of the info came from it.
lol, steam is and was hideous!
Don't forget that without the "Hideous Steam" the modern world we live in, would't exist.
@@dustin_4501yes but its useless and impractical outside of being a novelty
As told in my top 10 list of greatest steam locomotives video
It's good family fun.. I would not say it's worthless.
@@dustin_4501There’s a New Zealander who has developed a rapid steam raising, low emission, water tube boiler for wood fuel. Worth checking out. (Ie Green Steam)