I have a 2018 base macan, now have 116k miles on it. Only thing I had to replace was the original battery and a new alternator 2 weeks ago at ~115k miles. Extremely reliable which is the only reason I haven’t upgraded yet. No creaks or rattles in the interior-it’s still solid. I always say the Germans put in one heck of a shift when they built mine!
My first Macan was a CPO 2018 Macan Turbo I bought in 2021. I sold the car last week after putting 27k miles on it. It was my daily driver and also used for trips throughout California. Only required annual service. No problems with it at all. Special ordered a 2024 Macan GTS which should arrive later this week. Really enjoy driving the Macan but when I want to drive a sports car I also have a 2024 Boxster S in the garage.
Issues to check for: 1. Timing Cover Seal Failure 2. Oil leaks in general 3. Porsche used aluminum hardware for the timing covers due to the timing covers being made of magnesium so steel makes it oxidize and have all sorts of corrosion and this causes the bolts to crack which can then lead to oil leaks. Updated hardware was released to remedy the issue but there's still a possibility that the valve covers or the timing cover seals themselves could actually fail causing excessive oil leakage. 4. Transfer case can slip causing a shuttering feel on acceleration (like was felt in that Audi I test drove) however this was updated so after it's been replaced, generally speaking, we don't see any issues with them anymore as the clutch pack materials were changed to be more durable. 5. Smaller issues -- a. Oil separators can fail b. Upper control arms every so often c. High pressure fuel pumps can fail d. Y pipes and coolant leaks (very pricey because the whole front end of the car has to be removed to gain access to water pump and thermostat as well as timing cover e. Vent lines between the cylinder heads that can get brittle over time and crack f. Water pump and thermostat can also fail6. First generation car - few items that require a front clip removal (changing drive belt, serpentine belt tensioner) 6. First generation car - few items that require a front clip removal (changing drive belt, serpentine belt tensioner) 7. Issues if water gets inside the car (from sunroof drains being blocked - rear drains can get stopped up) can cause electrical issues. The battery well can get filled with water as well as your current distributor which houses all the main power fuses for the vehicle.
True, but if I heard correctly, all of the timing components are on the back of the engine. This means full engine out job to replace timing chain and guides. Honestly, gen 1 is a better car because of this. Taking off the front bumper is a welcomed job compared to taking out an engine.
That list only pertains to certain models, no? I'd assume the base model with the Audi 2.0L has the fewest amount of issues. That is the model to buy. Worried about power? Get a tune. It's light, nimble, and won't leave you stranded like the Porsche V6's might.
Great video, thank you. I currently am one year / 15,000 miles into driving/owning a used 2018 Porsche Macan Sport Edition, which is basically a fully loaded base model that Porsche ran for one year (2018 only). It had 70k miles on it, 4 owners, and a clean Carfax when I bought it. I added a three year fully loaded extended warranty for a few thousand dollars, so $35k all in, I couldn't be happier. Even though I could buy or lease a newer model, I’m actually a fan of the older models with the tactile buttons versus the all digital panels. I like the way it looks and feels every time I climb into the vehicle. It has all the desired upgrades including 21in wheels and “Sports Plus” engine mode. For day to day driving, that’s plenty for me. I wasn't sure how committed I was going to be to the vehicle, and for some reason, the more electronic the vehicle is, the more I worry about something going wrong that I can't fix, so I prefer the older model. I think it's all about perspective, so I guess it just depends on what vehicle you are driving before you get into the Macan. I was driving a Jeep Cherokee, so this is a big change for me. Also I'm pleasantly surprised to be able to get 30mpg/Hwy in a six year old suv with 70k miles on it. For me, the "Sport Plus" mode is just the right amount of fun for my first Porsche. I do plan to upgrade to a newer Macan in a couple of years, but for now I'm having fun in my little pocket rocket. Plenty of room for my single person lifestyle.
This was one of the best reviews and videos anywhere, not just clickbait. I am considering a Macan because I want both a hard sport edge but also the practicality of an SUV and to pull a small camper. I want an actual Sport Vehicle that has Utility. It will have kayaks on top. Going through each generation was useful.
I am considering getting a CPO 2020 Macan base, but given the maintenance costs, I was hesitant. This is a great video, and has encouraged me to move forward with the purchase. Thank you PCA.
I have a "launch" version of the 2015 S, new it was $87k, has PASM and the Chrono Package, and the carbon fiber package and the Burmeister radio. I got it used from Carvana, did an inspection at my local Porsche dealership and they were pretty impressed with it. Also the 21 inch wheels. It's a great car!
Really informative video. I have a 2015 S. I purchased it CPO with an extra year, so I still have a year and a half to go. To date. I 've driven about 20K miles and I've done brakes, and oil changes at 5k miles. Its been a wonderful vehicle. It'll need a new set of shoes this upcoming spring.
This is such a welcome and comprehensive video. Big thanks to PCA for putting this together! I personally have a 2023 Macan S which I bought brand new last year and absolutely love it. The thing that impressed me most about the Macan (and still does) is the almost magical way Porsche have managed to make an SUV feel and drive like a sports car. There are days where I honestly forget I'm driving an SUV, it just performs and handles so well. Can thoroughly recommend this car to anyone looking for a sporty and spirited driving experience with some practicality thrown in. I'd also strongly recommend the S or GTS, you really want the twin turbo V6, believe me. I did test drive the 4cyl, and while it was impressive, the V6 is streets ahead!
I was liking most everything up to the $12,000.00 replacement for the “surface” coated brakes! Can you replace them with something less expensive once they wear out? I’ve driven M’s and AMG’s on the track and don’t need ceramics or $12k brakes.
Currently on the market to buy my 1st ever Porsche and Macan was our choice (for family reasons of course) and I'm extremely happy I watched this video. Now I feel much better equipped and knowledgeable to go look for one. Thank you so much!
The exhaust note on the first gen 95b.1/E1 3.0 & 3.6 with or without the PSE is arguably better than the two facelifts (2019+). This may only matter to the more visceral enthusiast and those considering modifying the 95b. The newer Macan models have a raspy buzz rather than a guttural growl.
Great overview. The info about the 3rd gen base model increasing 40hp is not accurate. The third gen went up 13 hp from 248 to 261 and peak tq to 295 up from 273. Another factor in the third gen being "peppier" is that the final drive ratio went from 4.13 to 4.67. You can feel it immediately off idle. I was looking at a 2018 GTS with higher mileage but ended up with a low mileage 2021 Base CPO, that had 5 years of warranty, between factory + CPO. The base has far fewer issues considering less options that may cause issues such as leather dash or air suspension. The lighter weight from the lack of the extra components and particularly the engine, which is nearly 200lbs lighter on the front end, results in a better handling car. The engine is a 4 cyl VW (a throwback to Porsche's first cars) but its the workhorse of the VAG world with far higher production numbers and revisions to arrive at its current, reliable revision. There's tons of room in the bay for easy maintenance. I added a tune to mine, which objectively, from datlogs, makes it as quick as an S from 30-70mph, perhaps greater and definitely has better throttle response for city driving. Depends on the end user and their needs. I also added thicker sway bars, lowering springs and sport chrono to make it an extremely fun, utilitarian and reliable car. Don't overlook the base or T model, it has a ton of potential with far fewer headaches.
Which tune did you add? I bought a JB4 but ended up not installing it due to warranty worries. If I keep this vehicle I will put the tune on after the warranty expires. I agree with you that the base has the highest chance of reliability.
I had a 4 cylinder 2017 Macan. I had the problem where the leather pulled loose on the dash. At 107,000 miles I had to replace the turbo charger and water pump. I also had the cam seal leak.
Thanks for posting this! I have been so confused about the different models and what not, but I've been shopping Macans like mad. So what I've settled with, is I want an '18 Turbo, so I can keep the 3.6 V6 rather than shifting to the 2.9 EA839 found in the RS5.
Very informative! We became first time Porsche owners last year when we ordered our 2024 Macan T. Luckily we had a great Sales Ambassador at our dealer that walked us through everything and have been enjoying our T for the past year.
Thanks for all the work you put in to producing this for us! I thought I knew a lot about the macan GTS prior to purchasing but the water drain is new info for me! Great job
Great video! I have owned three Macans since 2016: 2016 Macan S (E1), 2019 Macan (E2), and 2022 Macan (E3). Totally agree with the coolant problems on the 2016 (E1) Macan. Mine had the same issue and it was a nasty service to fix. Luckily it was under warranty, but dealer told me it was like $10k if out of pocket. My 2019 and 2022 Macans have been problem free. My only complaint is the brakes wear out quick. They last only 20-25k miles, so keep that in mind. My 2022 is likely my last Macan. It’s been a great car, but the ICE version is looking dated now and prices are nuts on them. My same spec is $8k more than it was when I leased it in 2022.
You might have considered including the 2017 and 2018 Macan Turbo with Performance Package. It was not an option for the turbo but actually a separate model. It had a bigger motor with 440 hp and about the same increase in torque, bigger brakes, the air suspension from the GTS, and some other trim items. PTV was still an option as were PCCB. I think of it as a hot rod GTS. They imported a very limited number. 2017 saw 122 delivered and 2018 had a bit more than that. Very special car, very rare car. I love mine so much I spent a small fortune to extend the warranty for four more years after CPO ran out.
I should add that other Porsche models would have called this version a Turbo S but because those include ceramic brakes and Porsche did not want to up the cost of the Macon by an additional $8000, they made PCCB optional. I was fortunate to get one that has it. Truly, the ultimate first generation Macan.
I think Turbo pp is the best because not many people got a chance to drive so they don't have much information about it .I'm glad I able to got one and she's a keeper
Excellent job guys and thank you for another great video. Here in the St. Louis region we find more and more Macan owners are becoming active members and this information is invaluable for those who are entering the brand.
I have owned three Macan-S 2015 (picked up in Germany on 17 May 2014), 2018 Macan-S, and 2022 Macan GTS. I enjoyed the video but there one problem with the 2015 model that I either did not hear mentioned or it was missed in the presentation. I was a recall of the transfer case which was not smoothly working. It was discovered as a problem sometime in 2017-18
Great stuff here guys. Really appreciate the depth of the topic. I'm a big DIY guy and will likely tackle removal of the front end in my 17 GTS soon. Got that nasty oil leak from the timing cover. May as well do all the rest of the front end stuff while in there. Thankfully I'm retired now and have all kinds of time, something I'll surely need to get this job completed. Hey, when I'm done maybe I'll have some time to do some volunteer work. Then again, my 16 BGTS will probably need some maintenance by then I'm sure.
I went to purchase a new macan last Saturday at my local dealer. I walked out with a 991.1 4S instead. As part of the deal they agreed to fix an item so I took the car home for the weekend and dropped it back off Monday, got a loaner 24 macan, so glad I bought the 911 instead.
I have a E3 S loaner while my E1 turbo is in for maintenance. Although you can argue reliability benefits there is a definite dumbing down of driving enjoyability in the later models. (engine tone and lighter steering) Issues with the first gen are typically fixed as they come up. There is no chance you will find one with all the potential issues fixed, even CPO. Also, amongst Macan owners I have never heard of E1,E2 and E3. They are usually referred to as 95b.1, .2, .3.
Porsche Macan was so ahead with its design and performance. I see the Chinese brands constantly take inspiration from it to this day. I can't believe it's been 10 years since it first came out. Anyone can shape a small crossover to look like a Porsche 911, but only Porsche can make it look and drive like 911. Some people, the pedantic know-it-all people like me know that it's based on the Volkswagen common MLB platform shared with the Audi Q5 and will try to say it isn't a real Porsche. However, Porsche did a great job to make sure it is a Porsche and not some rebadge Audi. I would like Porsche to use the ultra-luxury platform MSB for the next Macan, so that the front wheels are further away from the body giving it better dash-to-axle ratio like the latest Panamera. For example, Genesis, has a dedicated platform designed for rear-wheel drive and their GV 70's wheels are so far away from the body. If Hyundai's up and coming luxury brand can do it, so can the deep pockets of the Volkswagen Group. I'm still wondering if Porsche will launch a second generation gas-only Macan.
Great job guys! Thanks so much for sharing the wisdom! Did you get a model year that the mechanics feel is the best for least service issues / best reliabiity?
Thanks guys! We are considering a Macan as our somewhat more domesticated Porsche. The reliability and serviceability of the E2 and later are very attractive.
Great overview! To clarify on the E1/E2 exterior trim pieces - they can be purchased online. Cost for all 6 pieces (3 per side) is less than $300 for Genuine Porsche parts. If you are a competent DIY’er, these are not a big deal to change yourself and not terribly expensive.
Overall, a great and informative video. I think the technician and ambassador were fairly honest about the issues of the 1st generation. I was surprised there was no mentioned of the introduction of the touch screens (haptic buttons) in 2022. I own a 2023 Macan T. I am hesitant about keeping it pass the 4-year/50,000 warranty period. However, I drive it less than 8,000 miles a year, so it’ll probably be fine for the long haul with proper maintenance.
Love my 22 Macan GTS ….My 911 on stilts. My wife drives an SQ5 and there is no comparison in all aspects of the driving experience. Really pleased with the purchase …..but one must prepare themselves for the full “Porsche experience” including elevated options expense and service expense.
Very informative video. Great job! Looks like the E2 is a good compromise of all three generations. As an aircooled owner E1 definitely gets a no with the oil drips. Don't need another vehicle that does it haha. While CPO is optimal for peace of mind. I think discussing aftermarket warranty like Fidelity, etc would've been beneficial as well for those looking at a used non-CPO Macan
About timing chain in front > its much better for mechanic because removing front of the car in Macan is very simple unlike other cars (front bumber is much smaller due to clam shell hood). To replace timing chain on newer model you will have to remove engine... so improvement ? dont think so.
I am leery of small capacity turbocharged engines, and thus have been avoiding the Macan. I wonder what its longevity will be like as it gets past 150,000 miles or so
Very informative video PCA. Wow 10hrs to remove a thermostat etc..are Porsche just making it purposely difficult to access engine bay to justify huge servicing cost.
Luxury and high-end performance vehicles tend to be tighter packages, with more tech, luxury, and powerful engines being squeezed into a compact SUV, in this case. They're tougher and more expensive to work on, a tradeoff buyers usually are willing to make. So no, Porsche isn't trying to make it purposefully difficult to work on these cars. Starting with the E2 Macan, Porsche made it much easier to service things like the serpentine belt, thermostat, etc. Hope this helps!
So I'm going to buy a Macan S or maybe a GTS in 2025. I read that 2026 is the last year for the vehicle, does that mean 2025 is the last year that they're selling them or is late 2026 the last year of the car?
@PorscheClubofAmerica , for Macans 2018 and older, the whole front end needs to be removed for many repairs including just a belt replacement. Does that issue apply to both 4 cylinder and 6 cylinders versions?
So, the 2018 Base Macan (4cl) does or does not have to have the front end removed to do the maintenance items discussed in the video? It isn’t clear from the video since that discussion was prior to the discussion about the base into in 2017.
All Macans have Audi pdks - the DL501. E2 and E3 had Audi engines. I wouldn’t call that just 20% Audi 😂. The E1 Porsche designed engine had numerous costly faults as noted in this video. Interesting that there was no discussion on PDK reliability and repairability. A large number of E1 owners had their complete PDK replaced as Porsche does not repair mechanical faults.
Exactly. Pretty bad when you have compressor A/ C issues that require you to remove the front dash to access and fix. Cheap VW plastic parts as well . Air/ oil separator valves etc . The cars need major repairs before 60k miles . Porsche NEEDS to do better , but they won’t! Not the same company since VW takeover
excellent video! can someone direct me to which PCA video showed how to clean/unclog the water drains? not obvious in the video titles but I remember it was fairly recent...
The issues you mentioned about E1 are minor to me. Do you know any shop in US which can repair DL501 (OB5) DCT at reasonable price? The repair kit cheap. But it's hard to find good shops specialized in this transmission.
To take off the whole front end of the car to replace a tensioner and water pump is ridiculous. They are really giving the consumer and technician the middle finger 😂
2016 S with 160,000 km. Was great until some druggie broke into it and totalled it. 2017 S replacement with about 60,000 km now. Both had the timing chain bolt issue. Fixed myself first car. CPO for the 2017. Overall really easy to maintain myself. Transfer case fluid every second oil change. Brakes not too hard. Oil changes are easy. So are plugs and air filters. Daily drivers.
I don’t think I will keep mine after the warranty expires, too many expensive issues. It’s all a lot of bad design choices by Porsche. Great fun suv though
@@RichmondTerminal 2018 GTS, already had the water take out the rear control unit, TCC bolts (it’s leaking again), transfer case, cross-over coolant tube at the rear of the engine (25 hours labour). Yes it should be issue free from now on, but without warranty these costs are insane…
Glad I watched this. Now I can take my dream car, a Macan S or GTS, off my list. Not a chance I'm going to buy an SUV that requires the entire front end to come off to replace a drive belt. Absurd. Porsche - give your head a shake.
I have a 2018 base macan, now have 116k miles on it. Only thing I had to replace was the original battery and a new alternator 2 weeks ago at ~115k miles. Extremely reliable which is the only reason I haven’t upgraded yet. No creaks or rattles in the interior-it’s still solid. I always say the Germans put in one heck of a shift when they built mine!
Thanks for sharing!
Just bought a 1 owner 2021 GTS and its a pure delight to drive.
Congrats!
My first Macan was a CPO 2018 Macan Turbo I bought in 2021. I sold the car last week after putting 27k miles on it. It was my daily driver and also used for trips throughout California. Only required annual service. No problems with it at all. Special ordered a 2024 Macan GTS which should arrive later this week. Really enjoy driving the Macan but when I want to drive a sports car I also have a 2024 Boxster S in the garage.
What was your monthly service cost?
Can you buy me one ?
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This video should be required viewing for anyone thinking about buying a Macan.
Glad you think so.
Issues to check for:
1. Timing Cover Seal Failure
2. Oil leaks in general
3. Porsche used aluminum hardware for the timing covers due to the timing covers being made of magnesium so steel makes it oxidize and have all sorts of corrosion and this causes the bolts to crack which can then lead to oil leaks. Updated hardware was released to remedy the issue but there's still a possibility that the valve covers or the timing cover seals themselves could actually fail causing excessive oil leakage.
4. Transfer case can slip causing a shuttering feel on acceleration (like was felt in that Audi I test drove) however this was updated so after it's been replaced, generally speaking, we don't see any issues with them anymore as the clutch pack materials were changed to be more durable.
5. Smaller issues --
a. Oil separators can fail
b. Upper control arms every so often
c. High pressure fuel pumps can fail
d. Y pipes and coolant leaks (very pricey because the whole front end of the car has to be removed to gain access to water pump and
thermostat as well as timing cover
e. Vent lines between the cylinder heads that can get brittle over time and crack
f. Water pump and thermostat can also fail6. First generation car - few items that require a front clip removal (changing drive belt,
serpentine belt tensioner)
6. First generation car - few items that require a front clip removal (changing drive belt, serpentine belt tensioner)
7. Issues if water gets inside the car (from sunroof drains being blocked - rear drains can get stopped up) can cause electrical issues.
The battery well can get filled with water as well as your current distributor which houses all the main power fuses for the vehicle.
you would think with decades worth of experience they wouldn't make such rookie mistakes / poor decisions when they charge a small mortgage for it
2021 models onwards most of these are not an issue anymore right? And if you have CPO it’s not a concern in terms of cost?
True, but if I heard correctly, all of the timing components are on the back of the engine. This means full engine out job to replace timing chain and guides. Honestly, gen 1 is a better car because of this. Taking off the front bumper is a welcomed job compared to taking out an engine.
Transfer case was also a known issue. For that they extended the warranty out eight years to cover it.
That list only pertains to certain models, no? I'd assume the base model with the Audi 2.0L has the fewest amount of issues. That is the model to buy. Worried about power? Get a tune. It's light, nimble, and won't leave you stranded like the Porsche V6's might.
Great video, thank you. I currently am one year / 15,000 miles into driving/owning a used 2018 Porsche Macan Sport Edition, which is basically a fully loaded base model that Porsche ran for one year (2018 only). It had 70k miles on it, 4 owners, and a clean Carfax when I bought it. I added a three year fully loaded extended warranty for a few thousand dollars, so $35k all in, I couldn't be happier.
Even though I could buy or lease a newer model, I’m actually a fan of the older models with the tactile buttons versus the all digital panels. I like the way it looks and feels every time I climb into the vehicle. It has all the desired upgrades including 21in wheels and “Sports Plus” engine mode. For day to day driving, that’s plenty for me. I wasn't sure how committed I was going to be to the vehicle, and for some reason, the more electronic the vehicle is, the more I worry about something going wrong that I can't fix, so I prefer the older model.
I think it's all about perspective, so I guess it just depends on what vehicle you are driving before you get into the Macan. I was driving a Jeep Cherokee, so this is a big change for me. Also I'm pleasantly surprised to be able to get 30mpg/Hwy in a six year old suv with 70k miles on it. For me, the "Sport Plus" mode is just the right amount of fun for my first Porsche. I do plan to upgrade to a newer Macan in a couple of years, but for now I'm having fun in my little pocket rocket. Plenty of room for my single person lifestyle.
This was one of the best reviews and videos anywhere, not just clickbait. I am considering a Macan because I want both a hard sport edge but also the practicality of an SUV and to pull a small camper. I want an actual Sport Vehicle that has Utility. It will have kayaks on top. Going through each generation was useful.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am considering getting a CPO 2020 Macan base, but given the maintenance costs, I was hesitant. This is a great video, and has encouraged me to move forward with the purchase. Thank you PCA.
It's a great car, hope you enjoy it!
best macan video on the net
Thank you for the kind words!
I bought a 2024 Macan S which comes with 21’ wheels and I have to report that I’ve done more than 30k and so far so good👌🏽
I have a 2021 GTS, and have had a number of other Porsche’s. It is among my fav - it does it all.
I have a "launch" version of the 2015 S, new it was $87k, has PASM and the Chrono Package, and the carbon fiber package and the Burmeister radio. I got it used from Carvana, did an inspection at my local Porsche dealership and they were pretty impressed with it. Also the 21 inch wheels. It's a great car!
How much did you pay for it and when was that
Really informative video. I have a 2015 S. I purchased it CPO with an extra year, so I still have a year and a half to go. To date. I 've driven about 20K miles and I've done brakes, and oil changes at 5k miles. Its been a wonderful vehicle. It'll need a new set of shoes this upcoming spring.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is such a welcome and comprehensive video. Big thanks to PCA for putting this together! I personally have a 2023 Macan S which I bought brand new last year and absolutely love it. The thing that impressed me most about the Macan (and still does) is the almost magical way Porsche have managed to make an SUV feel and drive like a sports car. There are days where I honestly forget I'm driving an SUV, it just performs and handles so well. Can thoroughly recommend this car to anyone looking for a sporty and spirited driving experience with some practicality thrown in. I'd also strongly recommend the S or GTS, you really want the twin turbo V6, believe me. I did test drive the 4cyl, and while it was impressive, the V6 is streets ahead!
Thanks for sharing and enjoy the ride!
I was liking most everything up to the $12,000.00 replacement for the “surface” coated brakes! Can you replace them with something less expensive once they wear out? I’ve driven M’s and AMG’s on the track and don’t need ceramics or $12k brakes.
Insanely great video! I feel a lot more confident about buying a used macan now
Go for it!
Currently on the market to buy my 1st ever Porsche and Macan was our choice (for family reasons of course) and I'm extremely happy I watched this video. Now I feel much better equipped and knowledgeable to go look for one. Thank you so much!
Good luck on your hunt!
The exhaust note on the first gen 95b.1/E1 3.0 & 3.6 with or without the PSE is arguably better than the two facelifts (2019+). This may only matter to the more visceral enthusiast and those considering modifying the 95b. The newer Macan models have a raspy buzz rather than a guttural growl.
Agreed, the 3.0 sounds amazing with the exhaust bypass open. I love the exhaust burp at high rpm’s between shifts especially!
Many thanks for a comprehensive review of Macan.
Glad you found it helpful!
Great overview. The info about the 3rd gen base model increasing 40hp is not accurate. The third gen went up 13 hp from 248 to 261 and peak tq to 295 up from 273. Another factor in the third gen being "peppier" is that the final drive ratio went from 4.13 to 4.67. You can feel it immediately off idle.
I was looking at a 2018 GTS with higher mileage but ended up with a low mileage 2021 Base CPO, that had 5 years of warranty, between factory + CPO.
The base has far fewer issues considering less options that may cause issues such as leather dash or air suspension. The lighter weight from the lack of the extra components and particularly the engine, which is nearly 200lbs lighter on the front end, results in a better handling car.
The engine is a 4 cyl VW (a throwback to Porsche's first cars) but its the workhorse of the VAG world with far higher production numbers and revisions to arrive at its current, reliable revision. There's tons of room in the bay for easy maintenance.
I added a tune to mine, which objectively, from datlogs, makes it as quick as an S from 30-70mph, perhaps greater and definitely has better throttle response for city driving. Depends on the end user and their needs.
I also added thicker sway bars, lowering springs and sport chrono to make it an extremely fun, utilitarian and reliable car.
Don't overlook the base or T model, it has a ton of potential with far fewer headaches.
Which tune did you add? I bought a JB4 but ended up not installing it due to warranty worries. If I keep this vehicle I will put the tune on after the warranty expires. I agree with you that the base has the highest chance of reliability.
I had a 4 cylinder 2017 Macan. I had the problem where the leather pulled loose on the dash. At 107,000 miles I had to replace the turbo charger and water pump. I also had the cam seal leak.
Thanks for posting this! I have been so confused about the different models and what not, but I've been shopping Macans like mad. So what I've settled with, is I want an '18 Turbo, so I can keep the 3.6 V6 rather than shifting to the 2.9 EA839 found in the RS5.
Very informative! We became first time Porsche owners last year when we ordered our 2024 Macan T. Luckily we had a great Sales Ambassador at our dealer that walked us through everything and have been enjoying our T for the past year.
Thanks for all the work you put in to producing this for us! I thought I knew a lot about the macan GTS prior to purchasing but the water drain is new info for me! Great job
Our pleasure!
Great video! I have owned three Macans since 2016: 2016 Macan S (E1), 2019 Macan (E2), and 2022 Macan (E3). Totally agree with the coolant problems on the 2016 (E1) Macan. Mine had the same issue and it was a nasty service to fix. Luckily it was under warranty, but dealer told me it was like $10k if out of pocket. My 2019 and 2022 Macans have been problem free. My only complaint is the brakes wear out quick. They last only 20-25k miles, so keep that in mind. My 2022 is likely my last Macan. It’s been a great car, but the ICE version is looking dated now and prices are nuts on them. My same spec is $8k more than it was when I leased it in 2022.
Thanks for sharing!
You might have considered including the 2017 and 2018 Macan Turbo with Performance Package. It was not an option for the turbo but actually a separate model. It had a bigger motor with 440 hp and about the same increase in torque, bigger brakes, the air suspension from the GTS, and some other trim items. PTV was still an option as were PCCB. I think of it as a hot rod GTS.
They imported a very limited number. 2017 saw 122 delivered and 2018 had a bit more than that.
Very special car, very rare car. I love mine so much I spent a small fortune to extend the warranty for four more years after CPO ran out.
I should add that other Porsche models would have called this version a Turbo S but because those include ceramic brakes and Porsche did not want to up the cost of the Macon by an additional $8000, they made PCCB optional. I was fortunate to get one that has it. Truly, the ultimate first generation Macan.
Isn’t gen sounds like everything breaks
I think Turbo pp is the best because not many people got a chance to drive so they don't have much information about it .I'm glad I able to got one and she's a keeper
Well said. The PP is a unique machine. How’d you hear about those import numbers? Is that for the US?
Wasn't it the same 3.6L with different tune?
Excellent job guys and thank you for another great video. Here in the St. Louis region we find more and more Macan owners are becoming active members and this information is invaluable for those who are entering the brand.
I have owned three Macan-S 2015 (picked up in Germany on 17 May 2014), 2018 Macan-S, and 2022 Macan GTS. I enjoyed the video but there one problem with the 2015 model that I either did not hear mentioned or it was missed in the presentation. I was a recall of the transfer case which was not smoothly working. It was discovered as a problem sometime in 2017-18
I currently own the 2018 macan S, any tips? How reliable was yours? Thanks in advance!
He mentions it at 16:22
Great stuff here guys. Really appreciate the depth of the topic. I'm a big DIY guy and will likely tackle removal of the front end in my 17 GTS soon. Got that nasty oil leak from the timing cover. May as well do all the rest of the front end stuff while in there. Thankfully I'm retired now and have all kinds of time, something I'll surely need to get this job completed. Hey, when I'm done maybe I'll have some time to do some volunteer work. Then again, my 16 BGTS will probably need some maintenance by then I'm sure.
I went to purchase a new macan last Saturday at my local dealer. I walked out with a 991.1 4S instead. As part of the deal they agreed to fix an item so I took the car home for the weekend and dropped it back off Monday, got a loaner 24 macan, so glad I bought the 911 instead.
You will also loose a lot less to depreciation
I have a E3 S loaner while my E1 turbo is in for maintenance. Although you can argue reliability benefits there is a definite dumbing down of driving enjoyability in the later models. (engine tone and lighter steering)
Issues with the first gen are typically fixed as they come up. There is no chance you will find one with all the potential issues fixed, even CPO.
Also, amongst Macan owners I have never heard of E1,E2 and E3. They are usually referred to as 95b.1, .2, .3.
Porsche Macan was so ahead with its design and performance. I see the Chinese brands constantly take inspiration from it to this day. I can't believe it's been 10 years since it first came out. Anyone can shape a small crossover to look like a Porsche 911, but only Porsche can make it look and drive like 911. Some people, the pedantic know-it-all people like me know that it's based on the Volkswagen common MLB platform shared with the Audi Q5 and will try to say it isn't a real Porsche. However, Porsche did a great job to make sure it is a Porsche and not some rebadge Audi. I would like Porsche to use the ultra-luxury platform MSB for the next Macan, so that the front wheels are further away from the body giving it better dash-to-axle ratio like the latest Panamera. For example, Genesis, has a dedicated platform designed for rear-wheel drive and their GV 70's wheels are so far away from the body. If Hyundai's up and coming luxury brand can do it, so can the deep pockets of the Volkswagen Group.
I'm still wondering if Porsche will launch a second generation gas-only Macan.
Great job guys! Thanks so much for sharing the wisdom! Did you get a model year that the mechanics feel is the best for least service issues / best reliabiity?
2019 and newer are their favs.
Thanks for the detailed information. Very comprehensive!
Terrific info!! Thanks guys. Does CPO cover Transmission, Engine, Exhaust issues? Oil leaks, Cooling system, water pump replacement covered?
Thanks guys! We are considering a Macan as our somewhat more domesticated Porsche. The reliability and serviceability of the E2 and later are very attractive.
Great overview! To clarify on the E1/E2 exterior trim pieces - they can be purchased online. Cost for all 6 pieces (3 per side) is less than $300 for Genuine Porsche parts. If you are a competent DIY’er, these are not a big deal to change yourself and not terribly expensive.
Thanks for the info!
Also, pdk transmission valvebody separation plate gasket blows which requires replacement. Mechatronic also needs to be rebuilt every 50k miles.
Overall, a great and informative video. I think the technician and ambassador were fairly honest about the issues of the 1st generation. I was surprised there was no mentioned of the introduction of the touch screens (haptic buttons) in 2022. I own a 2023 Macan T. I am hesitant about keeping it pass the 4-year/50,000 warranty period. However, I drive it less than 8,000 miles a year, so it’ll probably be fine for the long haul with proper maintenance.
Outstanding video! Very informative for potential buyers and even current owners. Keep up the good works and Thank You!
Love my 22 Macan GTS ….My 911 on stilts. My wife drives an SQ5 and there is no comparison in all aspects of the driving experience. Really pleased with the purchase …..but one must prepare themselves for the full “Porsche experience” including elevated options expense and service expense.
Thanks for sharing!
Very informative video. Great job! Looks like the E2 is a good compromise of all three generations. As an aircooled owner E1 definitely gets a no with the oil drips. Don't need another vehicle that does it haha. While CPO is optimal for peace of mind. I think discussing aftermarket warranty like Fidelity, etc would've been beneficial as well for those looking at a used non-CPO Macan
Is the Fidelity aftermarket warranty something you can acquire at any time? 15' Porsche Macon S
Really useful explanation of the evolution of the model and what to watch out for. Thanks!
Vu for the leaks on the drive way I have always used a drip pan with quick dry powder also, it help locate the specific area of the leak.
Thanks!
My 95B.E1 Macan S has its own drip pan, so you'll never see the leaks! Not sure if that's really a benefit though. LOL.
I would LOVE a video like this for ANY car I want to buy!
About timing chain in front > its much better for mechanic because removing front of the car in Macan is very simple unlike other cars (front bumber is much smaller due to clam shell hood). To replace timing chain on newer model you will have to remove engine... so improvement ? dont think so.
Point taken
Thanks! I am looking at 2019 and newer...
Good luck!
Good video. Now you need to do one on the Cayenne, say 2017 to present. How much of those are VW/Audi, especially the mechanicals(eng/tran). Thanks.
Awesome video! Thank you so much for the information!
Thanks for watching!
I am leery of small capacity turbocharged engines, and thus have been avoiding the Macan. I wonder what its longevity will be like as it gets past 150,000 miles or so
First gen S and GTS aren’t small imo
Can you please make one for cayenne?
@PorscheClubofAmerica , love this review for Macans. Do you have the same format review available for Cayennes? Thank you!
Not yet!
Very informative video PCA.
Wow 10hrs to remove a thermostat etc..are Porsche just making it purposely difficult to access engine bay to justify huge servicing cost.
Luxury and high-end performance vehicles tend to be tighter packages, with more tech, luxury, and powerful engines being squeezed into a compact SUV, in this case. They're tougher and more expensive to work on, a tradeoff buyers usually are willing to make. So no, Porsche isn't trying to make it purposefully difficult to work on these cars. Starting with the E2 Macan, Porsche made it much easier to service things like the serpentine belt, thermostat, etc. Hope this helps!
So 2022 macan a good idea or not??? Used and 30k on it
A 2022 Macan with 30k miles would likely be an excellent choice. Of course get a pre-purchase inspection.
@ thank you!
The base 2.0t does not have a pdk. It has Audis S-tronic DSG like what's in the A4
So I'm going to buy a Macan S or maybe a GTS in 2025. I read that 2026 is the last year for the vehicle, does that mean 2025 is the last year that they're selling them or is late 2026 the last year of the car?
Superb video guys from the UK. 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome job guys
Thank you!
@PorscheClubofAmerica , for Macans 2018 and older, the whole front end needs to be removed for many repairs including just a belt replacement. Does that issue apply to both 4 cylinder and 6 cylinders versions?
Excellent video! tons of info thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
4:45 I was looking at the Macan because I don’t want an Audi like everyone else. Now you tell me it’s an Audi!
Yes, but better ;)
Awesome video! Any chance of a similar video for Cayennes?
Working on it!
Great video guys!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
So does the new Porsche Macon T come with an extra 40 horse power as it does to show on their specs ?
No
Very informative, thank you.
We appreciate the feedback!
Should do the same video but for cayenne.
So, the 2018 Base Macan (4cl) does or does not have to have the front end removed to do the maintenance items discussed in the video? It isn’t clear from the video since that discussion was prior to the discussion about the base into in 2017.
You bring up a good point. One would think the smaller engine would make work easier. We will be back with an answer to this question.
Critical info here guys, thankyou
All Macans have Audi pdks - the DL501. E2 and E3 had Audi engines. I wouldn’t call that just 20% Audi 😂. The E1 Porsche designed engine had numerous costly faults as noted in this video. Interesting that there was no discussion on PDK reliability and repairability. A large number of E1 owners had their complete PDK replaced as Porsche does not repair mechanical faults.
Exactly. Pretty bad when you have compressor A/ C issues that require you to remove the front dash to access and fix. Cheap VW plastic parts as well . Air/ oil separator valves etc . The cars need major repairs before 60k miles . Porsche NEEDS to do better , but they won’t! Not the same company since VW takeover
23’ GTS also can have the water drain problem?
Does Porsche still have the Blaupunkt stereos as the factory systems. Every since the 60s Blaupunkt audio was a audio system for Porsche cars.
Now it's Bose or Burmester
excellent video! can someone direct me to which PCA video showed how to clean/unclog the water drains? not obvious in the video titles but I remember it was fairly recent...
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Natural aspirated platinum edition or turbo ,s variant
The issues you mentioned about E1 are minor to me. Do you know any shop in US which can repair DL501 (OB5) DCT at reasonable price? The repair kit cheap. But it's hard to find good shops specialized in this transmission.
How can the track forward button on the steering wheel be programed to move to the next Serius favorite, rather than the next radio station?
I have a 2017 macan, and it has 78,000 miles .All electronics are going haywire, the brakes, engine, and oil won’t shut off on console
Wow, that's a lot to deal with. We hope you find a solution quickly.
Can Porsche specialist sell CPO Porsche or is this something only Porsche dealers can offer?
Only a Porsche dealer can sell a Certified Pre-Owned Porsche.
17:00 in…how tall is that mechanic??!
VERY tall lol
idk...toying with the maserati, but I really want to see a Macan run and win the Baja1000 or the Dakar.
Do you have a video like this for cayenne?
It's in the plans.
“In my time here never replace a turbo” ok is that 10 years, 3 years, 1 year? How long have you been working at Porsche?
To take off the whole front end of the car to replace a tensioner and water pump is ridiculous. They are really giving the consumer and technician the middle finger 😂
Love my GTS. Keeper
Enjoy!
Is CPO transferrable?
Yes
Good video but WAY too many ads 😑
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2016 S with 160,000 km. Was great until some druggie broke into it and totalled it. 2017 S replacement with about 60,000 km now.
Both had the timing chain bolt issue. Fixed myself first car. CPO for the 2017.
Overall really easy to maintain myself. Transfer case fluid every second oil change. Brakes not too hard. Oil changes are easy. So are plugs and air filters.
Daily drivers.
Thanks for sharing!
Do not TOUCH anything pre 2019. Don't do it. Unless CPO but just shop 2019 and newer.
Why?
Nonsense.
85,000 miles... 2016.... tires and brakes... that's it...
Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
Bought a brand new 2024 Macan GTS and the air suspension broke after the second day of ownership!
The Audi 2.0T engine sucks balls
Why
The pillars are not thousands to replace...AND they are covered under warranty no questions asked...not CPO though
Thanks for sharing!
I don’t think I will keep mine after the warranty expires, too many expensive issues. It’s all a lot of bad design choices by Porsche. Great fun suv though
It's a fantastic design, most people love them
@@ArtVandelayOfficial I was speaking of the engine, cooling and drain system
@@hughmann1908 What year and model is your Macan? The early ones had some known mechanical issues, but the later versions are thought to be solid.
@@RichmondTerminal 2018 GTS, already had the water take out the rear control unit, TCC bolts (it’s leaking again), transfer case, cross-over coolant tube at the rear of the engine (25 hours labour). Yes it should be issue free from now on, but without warranty these costs are insane…
Poor engine design for mechanical work . A/C system sucks . Shares too many crappy parts with VW . Small parts break .
I would like to say dont buy used Macan.
Why not?
Once end for all!!! It's porschE NOT porschA!
Macan = AUDI
Is this a good thing?
No it’s not, Audi doesn’t have PDK transmission.
@ please check where the Macan is built
@@Cool12354 Lamborghini and Bugatti are owned and built by VW so that means they are Audi too? 😂
@ some small parts yes
Glad I watched this. Now I can take my dream car, a Macan S or GTS, off my list. Not a chance I'm going to buy an SUV that requires the entire front end to come off to replace a drive belt. Absurd. Porsche - give your head a shake.
Just get a 2019 or newer one and keep the dream alive.