Key Tracking: The Secret Weapon for Sound Design..

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  • @sjlearning149
    @sjlearning149 Рік тому +153

    Negative keytracking to VCA level...the lower you play the louder it gets. Trust me you need this. Most poly synth are tempered in way where you can't hear bass notes clearly when you play treble unless you eq so hard that everything get really flubbly. By using this trick and a bass cut you can get a lot more upper end harmonics on your low notes so they can cut through without making everything muddy

    • @watkins7086
      @watkins7086 Рік тому +3

      Awesome tip!

    • @odmusicman
      @odmusicman Рік тому +2

      Yes so true thanks for the tip

    • @emilianolasalle
      @emilianolasalle Рік тому +1

      You have key tracking on the VCA?

    • @sjlearning149
      @sjlearning149 Рік тому +1

      @@emilianolasalleMost soft synths have this. For hardware you can try converting (127 - the midi note number) parts of midi on/off messages into velocity and using the common velocity to VCA routing.

    • @willkellogg1352
      @willkellogg1352 Рік тому +1

      The Mfreaks and Hydrasynth can do this

  • @ChristopherOrth
    @ChristopherOrth Рік тому +17

    One of the many micro-modulations I use to make digital synths sound warmer is to add a touch of random value (noise usually) to the keytracking. Not enough to throw things off, but just enough that the keytrack value to the filter (or whatever) is never exactly the same twice.

  • @paraworldblue
    @paraworldblue Рік тому +15

    One of my favorites is keytracking both the attack and release, which gives you a punchy bass and a smooth pad in the same patch. Meanwhile, you can sort of do the delay trick on a Minifreak via the assignable matrix slots (tbh they really should've just made them all assignable), but unfortunately there's no slew setting.

  • @towardstar
    @towardstar Рік тому +6

    ricky you are the king of demonstrating simple sound design elements that we overlook, but yet somehow it should seem more obvious in hindsight

  • @JamesRamboPearce
    @JamesRamboPearce Рік тому +11

    Yesss always use keytracking! More synth sound design fun plz ❤

  • @effiksmusic
    @effiksmusic Рік тому +9

    Some how I knew what Keytracking is for, but this video shows many more cool ways to use I never tried out. Thanks.

  • @ChrisWeinhardt
    @ChrisWeinhardt Рік тому +1

    Peak keeps on giving, so glad I bought it some years ago after seeing your videos on it for the first time!

  • @MichaelRohaly
    @MichaelRohaly Рік тому +1

    Faking keyboard splits with tracking is fun. If you do wavetables, have silence in there or send one oscillator left and the other right.

  • @gergokovacsjazzpiano8165
    @gergokovacsjazzpiano8165 Рік тому +8

    3:05 Yeah! lower notes slower vibrato, higher notes faster. Thats what I use often in my Prophet 6: ocs 2 in low freq mode, key tracking on. Destination can be also shape mod. The real beauty comes out when I play Bach fuges: all of a sudden all voice turn alive!

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee Рік тому

      It's especially fun for soloing if you dial it in so that the LFO on the notes you're playing goes along with the tempo. I found that out thru a workstation preset I liked🙈🤣

  • @jevogroni4829
    @jevogroni4829 Рік тому

    I'm glad you brought this up. i have been thinking for some time that the digitakt really needs key tracking.

  • @BassFunMusic
    @BassFunMusic Рік тому +1

    The sound on your channel is simply stellar! It's my go-to for quality music! 🎶🚀♥

  • @G0nz0uk
    @G0nz0uk 11 місяців тому +1

    This is really useful, thanks. The Peak is my favourite synth, I'd love to watch you make another patch/sound, they are so helpful and inspiring.

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper Рік тому +3

    My favorite uses for key tracking so far...
    - 100% to resonant highpass frequency, to boost the fundamental
    - ~30% to LFO speed, for pitch sensitive vibrato / tremolo
    - +100% to wave shape, to get something like a multi-timbral patch with smooth morphing across the keys
    - -50% to VCA level, to make higher notes quieter (or maybe 75% to lowpass frequency, to make higher notes softer)
    - 100% to comb filter frequency and/or tuned feedback frequency, for realistic physical modelling
    These are all pretty mundane, but still very useful.
    Also, for FM, small random percents to the oscillator fine-tuning, to produce a wild variety of crazy sounds which are different on each key. When the ratios are detuned at messy intervals, it makes really complex patterns which can evolve for longer than a minute per keypress.

  • @geephlips
    @geephlips Рік тому +1

    Thanks for doing this. Key tracking is ridiculously powerful, but not many understand what you can do with it. On a synth with a ton of mod slots you can basically create different patches at both ends of the keyboard

  • @ConwayBob
    @ConwayBob Рік тому +3

    Thank you, Ricky! This is a wonderfully clear explanation of what key-tracking is and how to use it. Thanks, Man!

  • @joxer96
    @joxer96 Рік тому +2

    Great vid! I'm guilty of getting in a rut and using things like key tracking the same way all the time. It's great seeing someone using it in ways I wouldn't have thought of. Loved the way you used it on FX. Thanks for sharing!

  • @J-Loe
    @J-Loe Рік тому

    Thank you!
    been looking for a good rundown on this.

  • @fallprecauxionsmusic
    @fallprecauxionsmusic Рік тому

    I love this!! really great sound design insights here. thanks bunches, enrique!!

  • @allyouracid
    @allyouracid Рік тому

    This is what I love about the Mono Station. Its Modulation Matrix is amazing, and I'm still discovering news ways to modify my sound with it, even though I own this machine since quite a while. But can't do as crazy stuff with it as with the Peak, obviously. Well, one day, I might also buy a Peak. :)

  • @iancain6647
    @iancain6647 Рік тому

    I was thinking about delay time in the beginning, then you whipped it out. Awesome that you're sharing some of these patch building steps.

  • @cstarcrusher
    @cstarcrusher Рік тому +3

    the jaguar is back in full effect

  • @daynemin
    @daynemin Рік тому +2

    Very cool. Reminds me of sampling artifacts. If there's a wobble in the sample it shifts according to the pitch played back.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee Рік тому +1

      Yeah it's the same sound, except you have more leeway to increase or decrease the amount that the rate of the wobble follows the pitch... unless it's a really basic key-tracking implementation.

  • @toxictower
    @toxictower 4 місяці тому

    Key tracking an lfo to double every octave and tying it to a single osc's pwm, basically gives you the sound of two detuned oscillators. They stay relative to each other across all notes, so they don't sound messed up in some ranges like in standard lfo'd pwm.

  • @80Jay71
    @80Jay71 Рік тому

    I'm learning the Hydra now and tips and tricks like this helps a lot!

  • @Synthpower
    @Synthpower Рік тому

    Well explained, now I'm keen on an give it a try. Thanks for the cool video.

  • @kiltysalter2966
    @kiltysalter2966 Рік тому

    Oh man, I learnt so much just now. Cheers legend!

  • @GenocidePanda
    @GenocidePanda Рік тому

    yess modulate everythingggg. modulate the modulation even. make it dance and jiggle

    • @GenocidePanda
      @GenocidePanda Рік тому

      ableton can do this to any synth or parameter using expression control

  • @krudler406
    @krudler406 Рік тому

    stuff i kinda sorta already knew but that Ricky made much more digestible and practical
    bravo homes, bravo 🔥

  • @nsjx
    @nsjx Рік тому

    really cool Ricky. this is used A Lot in FM patch programming. in fact it's nearly essential to use it. i want to add to yr tip here. i Love all of the 'basic' mod source stuff like Vel, Key Follow, MW.. it's so easy to look straight to obvious movement stuff like env's and lfo but using those three in conjunction in proper measure can Really bring a bland sound alive. what's really cool is have a multi-osc or multi timbral stnth where key-track can be use on the dynamic part of the patch (volume over time) to bring different osc (or timbres/parts/layers) in depending on where you play on the kb. key tracking can also do some wild stuff when used to modulate MOD AMOUNTS of other mod routings. anyways, great yr reminding folks of the power of these basic utilities in Most synths... Velocity is just as powerful for the same reasons. Thx bud

  • @dave-modeplex
    @dave-modeplex Рік тому +1

    Very good explained. Thank you. :)

  • @KurtLorenz
    @KurtLorenz Рік тому

    ❤❤❤ tracking AND slew…. Learning a bunch today.

  • @joewhy
    @joewhy Рік тому

    I’m glad I watched until the very end.
    ✨Great outro ✌️👽👍✨

  • @schulenheimer
    @schulenheimer Рік тому +1

    love the sound design videos, they always have some element of "why didn't i try that before" 👍

  • @iceblack24
    @iceblack24 Рік тому

    more of these kind of video's, this was great!

  • @davidwave4
    @davidwave4 Рік тому

    I had no clue what key tracking was, but now I have to try some of these things for sound design.

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper Рік тому

    I love the summit so much i got a peak. It is such a beastly synth.

  • @xyzzynth
    @xyzzynth Рік тому

    Thanks for the lesson. Key Tracking goes a long way.
    Awesome patch at the end! Pink Floyd vibes. 👏

  • @marchm35
    @marchm35 Рік тому

    Wow, the end sounds soooo space! I need the Peak!

  • @hawk194
    @hawk194 Рік тому

    Thank you for this. Really expanded my knowledge of key tracking. I’m going to experiment on my Summit. Great video!

  • @markl7520
    @markl7520 Рік тому

    Great explanation, thank you

  • @TristanBaldi
    @TristanBaldi Рік тому

    Always love your Peak videos Ricky. Thanks a lot!

  • @palindromial
    @palindromial Рік тому

    Glad to see you back in "how to tweak a synth" land!

  • @LeslieDugger
    @LeslieDugger Рік тому +1

    for Ableton users use the Max Midi effect "Expression Control"

  • @chicken_flavoured_bacon3230

    thanks, I understood what keytracking the filter did.. and use it often enough, but I cerytainly didn't know how good of a mod sourcce it can be.. learn somethin everyday yeah?.. cheers man

  • @TheHexCube
    @TheHexCube Рік тому

    RICKAAAAY!
    You're awesome man. Thanks for upload bro'.

  • @synthsamuraiproductions
    @synthsamuraiproductions Рік тому

    Great video man. First time i ever had this explained properly 🍻

  • @mk1st
    @mk1st Рік тому

    Great info, thanks

  • @MasterStatusUK
    @MasterStatusUK Рік тому +13

    Tree Kacking iz impertonts

    • @supercompooper
      @supercompooper Рік тому +1

      CHINA People tracking is next gen tho 😮

    • @treesurgeon2441
      @treesurgeon2441 Рік тому +1

      As a surgeon I strongly discourage tree kacking it will give you splinters in places you couldn't imagine.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee Рік тому

      Set your tree kacking to the po lass filter, it's all new yeed.

  • @michelguitarist
    @michelguitarist Рік тому

    Thanks for the great video !
    Michel

  • @triplebeam23
    @triplebeam23 Рік тому

    Man this is such a amazing video.. I actually learned something here

  • @jimlampshady
    @jimlampshady Рік тому

    Nice 1 Ricky. I've been aware of keytracking for the longest time and never explored it. I believe it was originally developed to emulate the characteristics of some acoustic instruments, which do often sound like the cutoff frequency of a filter gets higher as the notes played get higher. Perhaps I dismissed it thinking - I already playing violin, now I'm making electronic music goddammit! In any case, next time I turn on a synth with keytracking, I'm firing that little puppy up. Thanks fella!

  • @icu12cme
    @icu12cme Рік тому

    Beautiful

  • @adamarmstrong9408
    @adamarmstrong9408 Рік тому

    Great vid man 👍

  • @fentanyljones6956
    @fentanyljones6956 Рік тому

    @12:55 that comb type shit you have going on is dope

  • @ThijsNaus
    @ThijsNaus Рік тому

    Great again, gonna try it out on the deepmind

  • @suga4all
    @suga4all Рік тому

    Love the key tracking LFO of my Nymphes. It is worth the money just for that. A juno 106 style synth with key tracked LFO... mmmmmhhh 😁🔥

  • @bradfordkeithmadison953
    @bradfordkeithmadison953 Рік тому

    The techie information is great … but, I’m seeing a link up there to MIDI SOCKS??!?!!?!? Oh HELL yeah! Thanks for great content but also for great swag!!!

  • @MrBlueHaze
    @MrBlueHaze Рік тому

    Nice synth tutorial

  • @DannyTaurus
    @DannyTaurus Рік тому +1

    Do key tracking on the Deluge with the Note modulation source. Middle C is zero modulation, higher notes are positive, lower notes negative. Or vice versa if you flip it. My favorite (but quite subtle) use is modulating pan so higher notes play further right and lower notes further left, like an acoustic piano in real life.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  Рік тому +1

      Whoa! I never thought of that with the panning and a piano in real life.. 🤯

  • @DBPawlan
    @DBPawlan Рік тому

    Cool explanation.

  • @therealone1288
    @therealone1288 Рік тому +1

    Velocity is another good one for parameters other than amp

    • @Skagra
      @Skagra Рік тому

      Agreed. Velocity to envelope time is great.

  • @NonsenseInBASIC
    @NonsenseInBASIC Рік тому

    That’s amazing. I must admit, key tracking is my least explored mod option. Not for long :)

  • @narki86
    @narki86 Рік тому

    Lack of keytracking and velocity parameters eventually led me to selling my Reface CS, excellent sounding bit of kit but I couldn't get past how lacking the options for adding expression or dynamics to the voices were without some considerable workarounds and/or need for additional gear.

  • @emeraldo9
    @emeraldo9 Місяць тому

    :D "math... synth terms... c'mon we're here" Love your vids Ricky

  • @rgables
    @rgables Рік тому

    Dude, i didnt even realize how much i've been neglecting my kb cv out

  • @acidbat4441
    @acidbat4441 Рік тому

    thank u, ive never quite understood

  • @istvantoth7431
    @istvantoth7431 Рік тому +1

    What's your take on the Novation Summit? Is it worth it?

  • @eddiexx
    @eddiexx Рік тому

    excellent! Ricky, it would be fantastic if you could make a standing series on how to operate synths, fist a foundation, and then apply that foundation to different types of synths and models. i have spent decades with synths most vsts (preset playing) and just recently im starting to discover what is what. i find specially hard to grasp that when you assign one thing in a synth to affect another, don't remember what its called. Cheers

  • @lukeskywalker2656
    @lukeskywalker2656 Рік тому

    Keytracking ❤‍🔥

  • @philipTOMPSETT
    @philipTOMPSETT Рік тому

    At last. I never understood what key tracking was. Cheers

  • @Buskersson
    @Buskersson Рік тому

    Ohhooo! Just noticed you have Osmose in the background. Might be mistaken. Should we expect video of that soon?

  • @phurniture
    @phurniture Рік тому

    Great video yet again! Alas, none of my synths allow the assignment of keytracking to anything outside of filter cutoff :(

  • @adamsimons7280
    @adamsimons7280 Рік тому

    Don’t have a Peak, but could you do a Karplus strong synthesis patch with the key tracking on the delay? I think you’d need to go negative key tracking for it to track in a conventional way 🤔

  • @longlostrobots8146
    @longlostrobots8146 Рік тому

    I got a deep mind 12d . I’ll give it a try cause I know it can do it .

  • @sawlfo
    @sawlfo Рік тому

    hey ricky any idea if novation is working on a peak/ summit 3.0? envelope curves would be a game changer!

  • @MartenHauville
    @MartenHauville Рік тому +1

    Why on earth was this synth technology not officially called "Teeter Totter Modulation"!? 😂

  • @jmcbeady8210
    @jmcbeady8210 Рік тому

    Great teaching moment. 👏

  • @telumatramenti7250
    @telumatramenti7250 Рік тому +1

    Do you own a Behringer Neutron? Just wondering if it's my unit by key tracking on that particular one doesn't appear to affect all that much. Owners of Neutron, feel free to throw in your 5 cents.

  • @mastaboog749
    @mastaboog749 Рік тому +1

    I've recently been using my mpc live 2 with everything. I sequence out of it into my other synths, I tweak sounds on the synth record back into the mpc and make a key group so I have it as a mini virtual instrument on there. The microfreak has been great for this exact reason, I want to pick up another synth was a crazy mod matrix that's easy to figure out. I might check out the peak!

    • @Vyrkadian
      @Vyrkadian Рік тому

      Another great modulation monster is the ASM Hydrasynth

  • @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135

    also serum the vst does that too

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden Рік тому

      Most synths do, softsynths or hardware

  • @iancain6647
    @iancain6647 Рік тому

  • @YesItsReallyKeith
    @YesItsReallyKeith Рік тому

    hiRicky, i am fairly new to synths... can you layer multiple sounds from the peak onto the 49SL ? so basically, sequence 1 sound, then move to another layer on 49SL (no daw) and start sequencing another sound from the peak.... can't seem to find info if this is possible or not..... thanks !!

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  Рік тому

      You cannot. The peak is one sound at a time. What you’re looking for is a “multi-timbral” synth! That means multiple patches(presets) can be played at once

    • @YesItsReallyKeith
      @YesItsReallyKeith Рік тому

      @@RickyTinez thanks Ricky....so there is no keyboard out there that can layer without using a daw ? so basically play the patch from synth + save it in the keyboard "as a track sequence" then start a new sequence with a different patch from the synth.... I would have thought this would be a regular part of the process! I guess a looper is the answer to this..Appreciate the response Ricky !! cheers !!!

  • @Kriojenic
    @Kriojenic Рік тому

    what was the song used in the intro?

  • @SoundsLikeSandy
    @SoundsLikeSandy Рік тому

    Does glide affect the key tracking modulation? So for example if the LFO was changing rate based on key tracking and you added glide, would it smoothly ramp up along with the glide pitch?

    • @MrMarcLaflamme
      @MrMarcLaflamme Рік тому

      I don't believe so. The keytracking value is tied to the note which is instant when pressed. The parameter you're applying it to would have a slew value if it was possible. In the case of glide, the pitch change of the osc is slewed.

  • @SUPAROCKINDJSMASH
    @SUPAROCKINDJSMASH Рік тому

    So can you demonstrate that same situation with a daw

    • @jmcbeady8210
      @jmcbeady8210 Рік тому

      Nice teaching moment. Good information.

    • @joechapman8208
      @joechapman8208 Рік тому

      It would be the same video again, except using a soft synth that has Kbd/Tracking/Note. I do this in Phase Plant, where the control is called Note and I can link the output by amount to any parameters of any voice or effect inside there.
      You can do it independently of synth VSTis in Ableton Live, and maybe other DAWs too. In Live, there's Expression Control; you could map Keytracking in there to a parameter of any plugin.

  • @kekethetoad
    @kekethetoad Рік тому

    Key Follow?

  • @paulmint1775
    @paulmint1775 Рік тому

    👍

  • @ionianechoes
    @ionianechoes Рік тому

    Not from USA: so what is tider dotter? Dotted? Dieter doepfer? Toder? Came in knowing what key tracking is but now I'm more confused...

    • @tomtebby7408
      @tomtebby7408 Рік тому +2

      😂 a teeter totter is the American English name for a seesaw - a piece of playground apparatus that consists of a long length of wood or steel that balances on a fulcrum. Kids sit at either end and go up and down.

  • @hoidoei941
    @hoidoei941 Рік тому

    Oooo eeee oooo eeeee

  • @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135

    lmao i use Key Tracking on my grandmother moog

  • @kris_lx
    @kris_lx Рік тому

    Is it me or is this video glitchy?

  • @suntzu6122
    @suntzu6122 Рік тому

    Peak videos