If you would like to recommend a small-scale miniature line or something that would look good printed in small-scale, please leave a link here! Thanks again :)
I’ve been playing 15mm Frostgrave, Stargrave, and Rangers of Shadowdeep for about a year now, using the small scale to make it portable for taking with me and playing with my wife on trips to the cabin or other spots. One thing I will warn of is that 15mm printed minis are much more fragile than their larger counterparts. I always use magnet sheeting to magnetize my minis now after more than one occasion of finding a box of rubble where minis should be even after the box was handled with care.
@@atkbovine Not sure what Kelimar uses, but I've largely used the sheet magnets that you can find in craft stores to line the bottom of the boxes that I store stuff in and use washers for bases...same thing I've used with larger scale minis. It also helps smaller ones in that it raises their base up a little bit more, if you include one, which encourages players to pick them up by the base rather than the mini, which also helps protect the mini from some minor damage and wear
Like AzraelThanatos uses I use the craft store sheets, or the magnetic strips you can get from the dollar store. One thing I will say is do not use strong magnets for this! It doesn’t take a lot to hold these light magnets in place, and they also aren’t heavy enough to keep stronger magnets from flying at each other when they’re on the gaming table. You only need to disintegrate one pair of minis to learn that lesson haha.
@@kelimar3014 There's some heavier duty sheet ones that you can get beyond the normal ones, look in areas where it's for some of the heavier magnets, they're about twice the thickness, but a lot stronger...and a bit of a pain to cut because of the magnets.
This is such a damn cool project. I don't even have a need for such a portable game, but the satisfaction of seeing it all pack down into that box, and how it looks all set up... Ohhh baby. Awesome.
First time I've seen one of your videos and just wanted to say how well done it was. Spoken very clearly, great flow, good points. Looking forward to more!
When I eventually pick up a resin printer, I definitely want to give this scale a shot. Warcry is fantastic, and GW dropping the core and faction rules for free is such a smart move. *Now do it for AoS, 40k, and all of Kill Team.*
Thank you for showing step by step how to put models on bases & then get everything to print correctly. I'd never tried the export everything as a group, then. ring it back in to support... This changes everything for me as a fledgling 3D printer hobbyist!!! A simple, easy to follow tutorial that I'm sure took tons of work on your end to edit vs how much of the video it takes up, bravo to you Sir for taking the time to include it! I found this channel through Goobertown & Paint Bravely the Podcast. It has helped me in numerous ways to level up my hobbying already and I've only made it through a fraction of the backlog of videos so far.
I recently started using mini-miniatures for playing D&D (using an FDM printer to print my models at about a height of 15-20mm), and am loving being able to print so many in such a little time, while not taking up all my shelving. One thing I found really useful was gluing a 3mm magnet to the bottom of each model. That way, I can actually use a metal sheet as a board and print out floor maps to place on top of it. The models stick to the metal and I can change out the paper to have different settings. Plus, when packing stuff away, I have a case with strips of metal in them that the miniatures stick to. This saves any from damage as I bundle them around the place.
That's awesome! I would definitely play some small scale D&D. I thought about doing magnets, and I probably will for subsequent versions, at least for transport. There are 3D printable bases with the magnet holes already built into the bottom of the base, so something like that could definitely work while still getting the small minis on nice bases!
ooooh!!! Making it mini scale sounds like an awesome solution!! That's one thing keeping me away from using mini's. The scale of everything. Having played 40k and fantasy warhammer, I look back at my childhood room, stacked with terrain pieces :-p Now as an adult with my own house, I haven't got the room to store all that stuff anymore if I'd start making terrain and mini's for D&D
This was awesome to see from start to finish. I have a huge collection of One Page Rules AND Forest Dragon Files I've been reluctant to print because of the space and effort it was going to take. I've always wanted to do something with the models but was unsure of where to go. This idea is perfect. I've always wanted to try Warcry so this will be a great way to pull everything together. Thanks for the idea and all the hard work showing us what's possible! I can already see my Saurian warband facing of against the Slaves to Darkness!
Amazing idea and execution! really loved this video! I think as cool as that box is, the tray doubling as the board feels a little small for a warcry map after seeing all the minis on it, but there is no reason you couldnt have a homemade foldable one in there, especially since you have the extra room from removing that wood palette
Accessibility is one of the main things that have kept me from actually trying to play miniature war games and not just build and paint minis. This gets me super excited!
This video makes me happy in the best kinda way. I wasn't sure how Titan Forge minis would print at a reduced scale, but have been working on a small scale set for DnD (easier travel). Absolutely amazing video as always! Keep up the awesome work!
gluing some metal to the playing surface, and some magnets in the terrain would help a lot with stability of some of those pieces, the pillars in particular
Doing a thin metal sheet under the grass and some magnets on the terrain would allow some fun los/cover objects that also aren't being knocked over every two seconds.
I really really hope Pockethammer gains more traction. The storage, costs, painting time and size of the board are the biggest factors that push away newcomers. Smaller minis are easier to store, paint and cheaper while the playing space is also smaller. With that literally everyone can become a miniwargamer. Wich is awesome. Thanks for your work :)
Another way to do the board itself is using a small art canvas. Many hobby stores and even dollar stores sell small canvases in a scale that's right for a 10/15mm skirmish board. Some are even flat canvases, with a very thin profile, if fitting them in your portable storage container is an issue. The best part is these canvases, naturally, are made to be painted. So you can paint an overhead view of the battlefield. Brushes, sponges, and even stamps can be employed to achieve the desired level of fidelity. And there's no shortage of battlefield maps out there that can be used for inspiration (or just copying wholesale, at a smaller scale).
If you are planning to do this again I could not recommend installing blender enough. You did basic merging using lychee, but if you import the stls into blender you can acrually merge them individually and properly. You can also resize them to your desired scale at that point. Furthermore if the models come in pieces for different variations you can stick them together in blender and export your desired poses as stl’s. Have a tank and want to add one of your models to sit on the roof? Do it in blender. The basic controls are really simple and you can ignore the advanced use if you want. All you need is moving them around and merging.
Casey! Great project. Warcry is probably GW tightest game right now in terms of having playable rules and consistently formatted warband lists. They are, of course, many other fantasy skirmish and battle rules that can be played in 15mm with the right minis. The only challenge to scaling down Warcry specifically is the bespoke models in each warband. But as you pointed out there are STLs for almost everything available today.
I've been doing something similar lately, printing out HeroQuest models at 60% to get them around 15mm size. I'm planning to use them with Song of Blades and Heroes as a super-portable skirmish game.
lol, I was already painting these when you mentioned it. I'm working on some stuff right now and don't actually have access to it...might be the right time!
I'm playing warhammer and historic games and always painted napoleonic figures in 1:72 (=20mm) because you need sooooo many of them! I can only agree with what you said.
It's super fun! Smaller minis are amazing :) I'm reducing the Stormcast in this video to 70% and I'm scaling up the 10mm Forest Dragon models to 150%, so around the 15mm scale is where I'm trying to hit.
I've always wondered if printing mini-miniature models of star destroyers could be cool. Being largely just triangles you could put out an imperial fleet in record time.
Definitely! There are a ton of Starwars models out there that would be perfect to print in smaller scale. I imagine you could do insanely large space battles that way. I bet that would be cool to see on a table :)
its really fun, and it's been getting better and better with the new additions. I think it just took a minute for enough people to try it for it to really become something that people want to talk about.
I’d like to try out cm scale 40K to have a game or two a try. Just print out a 500pts of Marines and Orks for example and spray paint them blue and green.
Yeah, that's a good call, those extra monsters would be a nice addition! I have the random scenario cards that I'm gonna put in this box and a bunch of those have the extra minis come in.
I printed out wound and activation tokens that are actually in the box, the same as the ones in the actual warcry set. My thought was to eventually print out the cards on cardstock so I could lay them out individually and keep track of wounds using the tokens, but I haven't quite gotten that far with putting it together. Everything is in the book though so probably a pad and paper would be easiest for now. just put the name of the unit and write down the amount of damage it takes until it dies.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues My main gripe with the game is the wound tracking; most people use either the cards (which can sometimes be awkward to identify) or clutter up the battlefield with dice or tokens. I've made myself some custom fighter cards with built in wound tracker dials (and also lists the fighter's special abilities), but this seems a bit overkill for smallscale Warcry. I think the old school pad and pencil might be the way to go!
I’m currently at this stage in my own Pocket Warcry project (inspired by Casey). I’ve printed some Warcry tokens (found on Thingiverse) at half the original size and will give that a go. I’ve also considered using dice (small D10s would be ideal, but I haven’t found any). I’ve previously used the Thingiverse files called ”Kill Team Flesh wound” but they unfortunately only come in the denominations 1, 2 and 3. I’ve reached out to the creator asking for 5 and 10 variants as well, which would be useful for Warcry. It remains to be seen what I’ll end up using 🙂.
Awesome work, can anyone supply the dimensions of that case. Uk based and apparently hobby lobby don’t like anyone outside the us from visiting their store
I imagine you can find one of these at an art supply store. Hobby Lobby just happened to have this one on sale when I got it. Here are the dimensions, good luck!! Length: 13 1/4" Width: 16 1/2" Height: 4 1/2"
Perfect video, looking at getting models for a skirmish game to get some friends into games, small scale seems less daunting to get ready and transport. Also thank you for pronouncing lychee correctly
I've seen a number of people doing just this online. At the 10 to 15 mm scale do you convert inches to cm for distance? Or do you use some other increment when you scale down?
I tried that with my last small-scale build, but it doesn't directly translate. It's 2.54 cm to an inch, so you have to multiply the number every time (Movement 3 inches = 7.62cm.) In this case, I scaled everything down by 50%, so all I did was scale down a standard measuring tool that you would use in a full-sized game so it was in scale with the models and terrain. It works great, but you have to use the measurement tool in the box, otherwise, you could just halve the value of the unit's movement and use a regular tape measure or whippy stick.
I personally think that at 15mm halving the distance is best, while at 10mm you keep the 'distance' the same but measure in centimeters instead of inches.
I noticed on the background you have the anycubic photon, what are your settings for printing with basic grey resin? I'm failing all my prints since I switched from transparent to grey and I don't why... Great video by the way, subbed!
Thanks for the sub!! I use Anycubic grey for pretty much everything, if you're having failures it's probably because the burn in layers aren't sticking to the build plate hard enough. I usually set those to do 8 at 90s each layer. I also generally tend towards 3s for each layer while printing. That's been really good for the mono x. Check out 3D printed Tabletop and Uncle Jesse on UA-cam for much more in depth advice on settings, they've got a ton of videos out for almost every printer out there and that's where I get all my advice for 3D printing!
the mat you had under the insert that has the base size measurements and mixing amounts on it when you where added the grass paper when can you get those ?
Prolly not the best place for this but ... I'm thinking I want to make up a premade oil wash. Have all the stuff ofcourse. Is there anything I should know or do to ensure it lasts. I plan to make it up at the right consistency put it in a 15 or 20ml dropper bottle. Then ill have it on hand for when I may need to panel line or grimdark a single model up without the extra hassel, time and waste (as I cant seem to just make a small batch. It always way more than i needed.) So to keep RTU is there anything else that Id need to add to up the recipie besides the oil paint and mineral spirits ? Any help is appreciated. Also smart assed and trolling comments are extremely welcome 😍.
@@friendlyneighbourhoodnerd thanks. Yeah im not too concerned about ratios as I eyeball it as well. Just wanted to make sure there wasnt some stabilizing agant or such.
@@jc7997ajon second thought, might wanna look up putting it in a bottle though, maybe there could be some issues with that, idk. But I'm 100% sure that for mixing it up as you use it, mineral spirits and oil paint are all you need.
When he showed the ruler, a caption said it was printed at 1/2 size. And at 15mm, halving the distances is about right scale wise. Now, if you went all the way down to 10mm minis you could just keep the measurements the same but use centimeters instead of inches.
Put a piece of Sheet metal on Wood with Grass over it, Have it Replace the Pullout Dice terrain and rules bottom, Miniatures with Magnets stick to board for ease of travel,
Strangely enough, I've often wished for many 10mm minis to be available in 28mm scale. At least whenever Warmaster has featured a monster or unit not built for Warhammer.
I know what you mean, there were some cool minis out for Warmaster! The Forest Dragon minis in particular are very detailed for being 10mm, they would definitely work in 28, and I know there are some people who print them out larger to proxy for Warhammer stuff.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues Some of minis for Warmaster and Dread Fleet could have been used as-is for 28mm scale, just in a new role. I adore the undead Sea Giant from Dreadfleet and the Warmaster Bone Giant, both of which I'd like to use as more unique-looking 28mm undead. :)
I know right? The models are so small that they just work really well with auto supports. The forest dragon minis were designed for minimal to no supports already, but the fact that the Titan forge ones worked as well as they did really has me convinced!
A full D&D kit with tiny minis and modular dungeon terrain would be absolutely epic to play with. And yeah, you could pack in a ton of minis onto a board and play out much larger scenarios, that would be cool for sure!
@@alcovitch imo, for the variety, randonness, 800+ modèles with "unique" skills and profiles and replayability, its hard to beat ! With the campaign mode it can be really immersive, its like mordheim 2.0
Lol believe me I thought about that, and there’s still potential for that idea, but the piece of wood they had in there was a weird shape with a hole in it for holding like a palette. Definitely room to grow with that though, could easily be an expansion to the board or some kind of dice tray for wounds and abilities.
I feel obligated to tell everyone that automatic supports are not a great solution. You will probably end up with print failures from using it--or losing details, at the very least. Use the find islands tool, and support all of those by hand. Then continue adding supports until you don't have failures from lack of supports (3D printing can be tricky). Also, isn't a new version of Warcry coming out? GW doesn't do anything customer friendly...
True enough, supporting models for printing is a whole art on its own! For all of the models I printed in this video, I used the Lychee "Magic" button, it generally does a good job finding most of the spots I would probably support on my own, and in this scale, it was still kind of overkill. I'm sure someone who knew how to support minis properly wouldn't need nearly as many to get these to print out alright. I didn't end up having any failures or issues, and I'm 99% sure it's because of scale. If these were normal 28mm 32mm models then for sure there would be failures, that's probably why I don't print very often unless it's for a specific reason. Yeah, the new Warcry just came out, and there is new terrain and special rules that go with it. I'll probably pick up the core book just to have those specific rules (which I've heard are actually quite good) but for getting into it, the free core rules are more than enough to get a good game in. Basic, but still just as good as the original vanilla game. That's really where the surprise comes in right? They generally aren't consumer friendly, but here we are with a good ruleset and cards to play every faction in the game currently. If you're into it then I imagine buying a book to expand the ruleset wouldn't be a huge leap, and if you have models and terrain then you don't need the $250 box, which is really weird for GW to do. I think it's a step in the right direction at the very least and I'm glad they made it available.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I haven't played Warcry because of the cost involved, but this video does demonstrate a fun way to start. The small minis seem more approachable. If it's a good rule set, then you're right about there being some value to the free rules.
Man I got one of those tiny billiard sets when I was a kid. I thought it was the coolest thing. The balls were even kind of heavy and the sticks were weighted. It was awful, but it was pretty neat at the same time. At least painting minis gives you more experience painting minis whereas tiny pool won't help you at all lol.
I was going to make a joke about mounted units not being able to climb, but then the camera angle changed and I saw that there was a rickety staircase behind him. Thanks for ruining my unfunny “ackshually” joke.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues Forgot to say, amazing work! I’ve always loved the eBay miniature rescue series, and because I have to budget quite a bit myself to be able to war game, it really strikes home with me to see you rescue and revitalize old miniatures. There’s just something therapeutic about rescuing an old and badly assembled/painted miniature, then breathing new life into it, cherishing it, and letting it see some action and glory on the tabletop again. The couple newer videos I’ve seen from you about the extra tiny scale stuff have also been awesome and filled with clever ideas. Honestly, not sure why I haven’t subbed already, but doing it now! Keep up the great work. 😁👍
If you would like to recommend a small-scale miniature line or something that would look good printed in small-scale, please leave a link here! Thanks again :)
cromarty forge does some great 10mm print-on-plate fantasy buildings. ironically you'd have to scale them *up* for halfhammer
I feel like I have to see a 6mm Krieg army
I’ve been playing 15mm Frostgrave, Stargrave, and Rangers of Shadowdeep for about a year now, using the small scale to make it portable for taking with me and playing with my wife on trips to the cabin or other spots. One thing I will warn of is that 15mm printed minis are much more fragile than their larger counterparts. I always use magnet sheeting to magnetize my minis now after more than one occasion of finding a box of rubble where minis should be even after the box was handled with care.
My first through was magnetization as well. What kind of sheeting do you use?
@@atkbovine Not sure what Kelimar uses, but I've largely used the sheet magnets that you can find in craft stores to line the bottom of the boxes that I store stuff in and use washers for bases...same thing I've used with larger scale minis.
It also helps smaller ones in that it raises their base up a little bit more, if you include one, which encourages players to pick them up by the base rather than the mini, which also helps protect the mini from some minor damage and wear
Like AzraelThanatos uses I use the craft store sheets, or the magnetic strips you can get from the dollar store. One thing I will say is do not use strong magnets for this! It doesn’t take a lot to hold these light magnets in place, and they also aren’t heavy enough to keep stronger magnets from flying at each other when they’re on the gaming table. You only need to disintegrate one pair of minis to learn that lesson haha.
@@kelimar3014 There's some heavier duty sheet ones that you can get beyond the normal ones, look in areas where it's for some of the heavier magnets, they're about twice the thickness, but a lot stronger...and a bit of a pain to cut because of the magnets.
I’d avoid any magnets that are described as “strong” lol
This is such a damn cool project. I don't even have a need for such a portable game, but the satisfaction of seeing it all pack down into that box, and how it looks all set up... Ohhh baby. Awesome.
First time I've seen one of your videos and just wanted to say how well done it was. Spoken very clearly, great flow, good points. Looking forward to more!
Thanks! I’m very glad you enjoyed it :)
When I eventually pick up a resin printer, I definitely want to give this scale a shot. Warcry is fantastic, and GW dropping the core and faction rules for free is such a smart move. *Now do it for AoS, 40k, and all of Kill Team.*
Dude this video is an amazing resource and you made painting those tiny minis look so quick and fun. Thank you!
Thank you for showing step by step how to put models on bases & then get everything to print correctly. I'd never tried the export everything as a group, then. ring it back in to support... This changes everything for me as a fledgling 3D printer hobbyist!!! A simple, easy to follow tutorial that I'm sure took tons of work on your end to edit vs how much of the video it takes up, bravo to you Sir for taking the time to include it!
I found this channel through Goobertown & Paint Bravely the Podcast. It has helped me in numerous ways to level up my hobbying already and I've only made it through a fraction of the backlog of videos so far.
I recently started using mini-miniatures for playing D&D (using an FDM printer to print my models at about a height of 15-20mm), and am loving being able to print so many in such a little time, while not taking up all my shelving. One thing I found really useful was gluing a 3mm magnet to the bottom of each model. That way, I can actually use a metal sheet as a board and print out floor maps to place on top of it. The models stick to the metal and I can change out the paper to have different settings. Plus, when packing stuff away, I have a case with strips of metal in them that the miniatures stick to. This saves any from damage as I bundle them around the place.
That's awesome! I would definitely play some small scale D&D. I thought about doing magnets, and I probably will for subsequent versions, at least for transport. There are 3D printable bases with the magnet holes already built into the bottom of the base, so something like that could definitely work while still getting the small minis on nice bases!
ooooh!!! Making it mini scale sounds like an awesome solution!! That's one thing keeping me away from using mini's. The scale of everything. Having played 40k and fantasy warhammer, I look back at my childhood room, stacked with terrain pieces :-p Now as an adult with my own house, I haven't got the room to store all that stuff anymore if I'd start making terrain and mini's for D&D
I absolutely love Warcry. It's deff one of the most fun games to play due to it's simplicity, ease of use and size
This was awesome to see from start to finish. I have a huge collection of One Page Rules AND Forest Dragon Files I've been reluctant to print because of the space and effort it was going to take.
I've always wanted to do something with the models but was unsure of where to go. This idea is perfect. I've always wanted to try Warcry so this will be a great way to pull everything together.
Thanks for the idea and all the hard work showing us what's possible! I can already see my Saurian warband facing of against the Slaves to Darkness!
Amazing idea and execution! really loved this video!
I think as cool as that box is, the tray doubling as the board feels a little small for a warcry map after seeing all the minis on it, but there is no reason you couldnt have a homemade foldable one in there, especially since you have the extra room from removing that wood palette
This is awesome. Hopefully it gets more people playing and painting. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Bill Making Stuff did something similar for Stargrave, but his board and box was a repurposed backgammon case.
oooh a backgammon board would be great, I'll have to check out that video!
What a great little project! I’m painting up Warmaster Forest Dragon Bretonnian bowmen as I watch this.
Hah! Very nice :)
Really enjoyed this casey, thank you
Currently in the middle of 3d printing a 15mm Mordheim table. FDM for terrain .... Resin for minis.
Accessibility is one of the main things that have kept me from actually trying to play miniature war games and not just build and paint minis. This gets me super excited!
FOREST DRAGON IS AMAZING
I really like the designs, not a bad one yet!
Nice. I think it is great when you talk about alternatives to GW models. Helps to change things up.
This video makes me happy in the best kinda way. I wasn't sure how Titan Forge minis would print at a reduced scale, but have been working on a small scale set for DnD (easier travel). Absolutely amazing video as always! Keep up the awesome work!
This is awesome! Thanks for the idea and inspiration.
Great stuff and awesome gaming box
You previewed the video on your podcast and I was intrigued, but this exceeding my expectations. Well done.
Great to hear!
Someone said podcast?
@@craigbrown04 Paint Bravely the Podcast
gluing some metal to the playing surface, and some magnets in the terrain would help a lot with stability of some of those pieces, the pillars in particular
Thank you for the ideas🎉
Doing a thin metal sheet under the grass and some magnets on the terrain would allow some fun los/cover objects that also aren't being knocked over every two seconds.
I really really hope Pockethammer gains more traction. The storage, costs, painting time and size of the board are the biggest factors that push away newcomers.
Smaller minis are easier to store, paint and cheaper while the playing space is also smaller.
With that literally everyone can become a miniwargamer. Wich is awesome.
Thanks for your work :)
Incredible video!
Please do an epic scale “into the dark” kill team box game as well :)
So nice video. I like the little stormcast. It's a very good idea. So fun !!!
Glad you liked it!!
Another way to do the board itself is using a small art canvas. Many hobby stores and even dollar stores sell small canvases in a scale that's right for a 10/15mm skirmish board. Some are even flat canvases, with a very thin profile, if fitting them in your portable storage container is an issue.
The best part is these canvases, naturally, are made to be painted. So you can paint an overhead view of the battlefield. Brushes, sponges, and even stamps can be employed to achieve the desired level of fidelity. And there's no shortage of battlefield maps out there that can be used for inspiration (or just copying wholesale, at a smaller scale).
That's a great idea!
This video is dope AF! You are on another level. Pocket hammer looks so incredibly awesome!! I love this!!
You've convinced me. I'm obsessed.
That 15mm scale is so good! I'm even planning on another one here pretty soon, I can't stay away from it lol
If you are planning to do this again I could not recommend installing blender enough. You did basic merging using lychee, but if you import the stls into blender you can acrually merge them individually and properly. You can also resize them to your desired scale at that point. Furthermore if the models come in pieces for different variations you can stick them together in blender and export your desired poses as stl’s.
Have a tank and want to add one of your models to sit on the roof? Do it in blender.
The basic controls are really simple and you can ignore the advanced use if you want. All you need is moving them around and merging.
This is your best video yet. Well done.
Wow, thanks!
Casey! Great project. Warcry is probably GW tightest game right now in terms of having playable rules and consistently formatted warband lists. They are, of course, many other fantasy skirmish and battle rules that can be played in 15mm with the right minis. The only challenge to scaling down Warcry specifically is the bespoke models in each warband. But as you pointed out there are STLs for almost everything available today.
I've been doing something similar lately, printing out HeroQuest models at 60% to get them around 15mm size. I'm planning to use them with Song of Blades and Heroes as a super-portable skirmish game.
First time seeing one of your videos - instant subscribe! Thank you!
Much appreciated, thanks!!
Brilliant Casey, very cool. 👍
Thanks 👍
This is awesome! Brilliant video.
Really cool episode dude, interesting concept playing at an even smaller scale.
Thanks! I know Warcry is already small, and I really like it for that, but something about those tiny minis is just too much fun!
Warcry just got even cooler with the new edition, but scale it down to "pocket" size looks like a cool project!
Warmaster revolution is fantastic. It’s been keeping warmaster alive and well!
Great video - I really want to get in to Warcry Pocket edition now - also a use for all the stls I've gathered over the last couple of years.
free rules...small scale...AWESOME video.......count me in, thanks for this :)
I see that panel liner again. The challenge is still waiting 😊
lol, I was already painting these when you mentioned it. I'm working on some stuff right now and don't actually have access to it...might be the right time!
@@eBayMiniatureRescues you got this 💪
Epic 40k minis came on round bases, I once added magnets to the bottom and make a magnetic version of 40k. Would love to see that done well
They never did come in round bases from GW, though. 😀
Looks sick!
I’ll never do it myself but I really enjoyed watching. Thanks! :)
you can buy magnet sheets and attach it to the bottoms of the minis and terrain... that's what im going to attempt to do
I'm playing warhammer and historic games and always painted napoleonic figures in 1:72 (=20mm) because you need sooooo many of them! I can only agree with what you said.
I was already kinda sold after the first video, but now I feel compelled to visit the local stores in the hunt for a box to put a game in.
I swear once I had the box it all made sense. Got a cool box, gotta put something cool in it!
Absolutely a great video. I'd love to see other micro wargames!
Great video!
My only issue is the lack of detail on the smaller ones but dang it makes for some really fun diorama making!
I'd love to fdm print some stuff on mass in this scale. With some good supportless models you could make an entire army for pennies.
Oh wow... I didn't even think about printing smaller scale! This is amazing! How much are you reducing them by again? THIS IS FANTASTIC!
It's super fun! Smaller minis are amazing :) I'm reducing the Stormcast in this video to 70% and I'm scaling up the 10mm Forest Dragon models to 150%, so around the 15mm scale is where I'm trying to hit.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues Nice! I'm going to give it a shot, thank you!
Such a great idea! What size would you say is the best one for the field?
I've always wondered if printing mini-miniature models of star destroyers could be cool. Being largely just triangles you could put out an imperial fleet in record time.
Definitely! There are a ton of Starwars models out there that would be perfect to print in smaller scale. I imagine you could do insanely large space battles that way. I bet that would be cool to see on a table :)
Feel like Warcry start to be a things lately ,even without mentioning the new box , so I did Order Kruleboys warcry box.
tiny warcry is so cool!
its really fun, and it's been getting better and better with the new additions. I think it just took a minute for enough people to try it for it to really become something that people want to talk about.
Came for the small minis. Stayed for the fanny pack.
Looks amazing
I’d like to try out cm scale 40K to have a game or two a try. Just print out a 500pts of Marines and Orks for example and spray paint them blue and green.
Thank you
What about other games like crisis protocol or Star Wars legion? Will they still look good scaled down? I would love a mini legion game
I imagine those would be perfect, especially because there are so many Star Wars stl files out there!
If you need a tip for what to do next for Warcry, look up what Neutral Creatures that would fit.
Yeah, that's a good call, those extra monsters would be a nice addition! I have the random scenario cards that I'm gonna put in this box and a bunch of those have the extra minis come in.
I love this; very inspiring and I really want to build my own set. Anyone got any ideas for a convenient way of tracking wounds for such a scale?
I printed out wound and activation tokens that are actually in the box, the same as the ones in the actual warcry set. My thought was to eventually print out the cards on cardstock so I could lay them out individually and keep track of wounds using the tokens, but I haven't quite gotten that far with putting it together. Everything is in the book though so probably a pad and paper would be easiest for now. just put the name of the unit and write down the amount of damage it takes until it dies.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues My main gripe with the game is the wound tracking; most people use either the cards (which can sometimes be awkward to identify) or clutter up the battlefield with dice or tokens. I've made myself some custom fighter cards with built in wound tracker dials (and also lists the fighter's special abilities), but this seems a bit overkill for smallscale Warcry. I think the old school pad and pencil might be the way to go!
I’m currently at this stage in my own Pocket Warcry project (inspired by Casey). I’ve printed some Warcry tokens (found on Thingiverse) at half the original size and will give that a go. I’ve also considered using dice (small D10s would be ideal, but I haven’t found any). I’ve previously used the Thingiverse files called ”Kill Team Flesh wound” but they unfortunately only come in the denominations 1, 2 and 3. I’ve reached out to the creator asking for 5 and 10 variants as well, which would be useful for Warcry. It remains to be seen what I’ll end up using 🙂.
If we're fishing for names, I nominate 'Smallfry Warcry"
Awesome work, can anyone supply the dimensions of that case. Uk based and apparently hobby lobby don’t like anyone outside the us from visiting their store
I imagine you can find one of these at an art supply store. Hobby Lobby just happened to have this one on sale when I got it. Here are the dimensions, good luck!!
Length: 13 1/4"
Width: 16 1/2"
Height: 4 1/2"
Damn I like this!
Perfect video, looking at getting models for a skirmish game to get some friends into games, small scale seems less daunting to get ready and transport. Also thank you for pronouncing lychee correctly
wow. that was cool
Thanks!
I've seen a number of people doing just this online. At the 10 to 15 mm scale do you convert inches to cm for distance? Or do you use some other increment when you scale down?
I tried that with my last small-scale build, but it doesn't directly translate. It's 2.54 cm to an inch, so you have to multiply the number every time (Movement 3 inches = 7.62cm.) In this case, I scaled everything down by 50%, so all I did was scale down a standard measuring tool that you would use in a full-sized game so it was in scale with the models and terrain. It works great, but you have to use the measurement tool in the box, otherwise, you could just halve the value of the unit's movement and use a regular tape measure or whippy stick.
I personally think that at 15mm halving the distance is best, while at 10mm you keep the 'distance' the same but measure in centimeters instead of inches.
I noticed on the background you have the anycubic photon, what are your settings for printing with basic grey resin? I'm failing all my prints since I switched from transparent to grey and I don't why... Great video by the way, subbed!
Thanks for the sub!! I use Anycubic grey for pretty much everything, if you're having failures it's probably because the burn in layers aren't sticking to the build plate hard enough. I usually set those to do 8 at 90s each layer. I also generally tend towards 3s for each layer while printing. That's been really good for the mono x. Check out 3D printed Tabletop and Uncle Jesse on UA-cam for much more in depth advice on settings, they've got a ton of videos out for almost every printer out there and that's where I get all my advice for 3D printing!
@@eBayMiniatureRescues cheers mate, you're a real king!
My local game store has that battle of five armies, would you like me too look at the price to grab it for you?
the mat you had under the insert that has the base size measurements and mixing amounts on it when you where added the grass paper when can you get those ?
That's the redgrass games one.
@@laam999 thankyou
So if I'm print a normal sized warhammer 40k or Sigmar model should I scale it down by 50%? Or by 30%
It depends, for me, and for the models I was using, scaling down by 30% looked pretty good and felt more like 15mm models.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues so if your model is usually on a 32mm base would you scale it down 30% ?
Prolly not the best place for this but ... I'm thinking I want to make up a premade oil wash. Have all the stuff ofcourse. Is there anything I should know or do to ensure it lasts. I plan to make it up at the right consistency put it in a 15 or 20ml dropper bottle. Then ill have it on hand for when I may need to panel line or grimdark a single model up without the extra hassel, time and waste (as I cant seem to just make a small batch. It always way more than i needed.) So to keep RTU is there anything else that Id need to add to up the recipie besides the oil paint and mineral spirits ?
Any help is appreciated. Also smart assed and trolling comments are extremely welcome 😍.
Nah, just oil paint and mineral spirits. I always mix mine by feel/eyeball it when I paint a model so I can't help you with ratios.
@@friendlyneighbourhoodnerd thanks. Yeah im not too concerned about ratios as I eyeball it as well. Just wanted to make sure there wasnt some stabilizing agant or such.
@@jc7997aj no worries! good luck in your grimdark endeavours.
@@jc7997ajon second thought, might wanna look up putting it in a bottle though, maybe there could be some issues with that, idk. But I'm 100% sure that for mixing it up as you use it, mineral spirits and oil paint are all you need.
@@friendlyneighbourhoodnerd ok. I was wondering how different what Im thinking of and something like streak and grime from ak interactive is.
Kudos for Jinjer t-shirt
Such a great band :)
Cool!
I don’t know if I missed it but do you halve the measurements since the scale is smaller?
When he showed the ruler, a caption said it was printed at 1/2 size. And at 15mm, halving the distances is about right scale wise.
Now, if you went all the way down to 10mm minis you could just keep the measurements the same but use centimeters instead of inches.
@@JMcMillen thank you! I thought must have missed that part
Put a piece of Sheet metal on Wood with Grass over it, Have it Replace the Pullout Dice terrain and rules bottom, Miniatures with Magnets stick to board for ease of travel,
awesome
Strangely enough, I've often wished for many 10mm minis to be available in 28mm scale. At least whenever Warmaster has featured a monster or unit not built for Warhammer.
I know what you mean, there were some cool minis out for Warmaster! The Forest Dragon minis in particular are very detailed for being 10mm, they would definitely work in 28, and I know there are some people who print them out larger to proxy for Warhammer stuff.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues Some of minis for Warmaster and Dread Fleet could have been used as-is for 28mm scale, just in a new role. I adore the undead Sea Giant from Dreadfleet and the Warmaster Bone Giant, both of which I'd like to use as more unique-looking 28mm undead. :)
Any plans to try some Pocket 40k?
Definitely plans! My goal is to get to them all at some point. As my collection keeps growing I need something to do with them lol.
You are printing with auto supports and it actually works ??
I know right? The models are so small that they just work really well with auto supports. The forest dragon minis were designed for minimal to no supports already, but the fact that the Titan forge ones worked as well as they did really has me convinced!
Honestly it's not just wargamming that benefits from this. But you could really do an epic scale battle for DnD with this process.
A full D&D kit with tiny minis and modular dungeon terrain would be absolutely epic to play with. And yeah, you could pack in a ton of minis onto a board and play out much larger scenarios, that would be cool for sure!
Warcry is the best skirmish game ever made, simple and quick to learn !
Not sure about best ever made. LOL
I enjoy it quite a bit, and I do like that I can teach someone how to play in just a few minutes, it really helps introduce new players to wargaming!
@@alcovitch imo, for the variety, randonness, 800+ modèles with "unique" skills and profiles and replayability, its hard to beat ! With the campaign mode it can be really immersive, its like mordheim 2.0
It's certainly the best ruleset from GW at the moment, but that's not a very high bar.
You... you took out the gameboard holder? XD
Lol believe me I thought about that, and there’s still potential for that idea, but the piece of wood they had in there was a weird shape with a hole in it for holding like a palette. Definitely room to grow with that though, could easily be an expansion to the board or some kind of dice tray for wounds and abilities.
So basically one page rules fantasy, scaled down ?
Warcry is fantastic.
Love that fanny!
Anyone else think the pallette holder was just right for the gameboard?
That music pleases Slaanesh
Wow, I want to sell all my 28/32mm models and print everything at 10/15mm
I feel obligated to tell everyone that automatic supports are not a great solution. You will probably end up with print failures from using it--or losing details, at the very least. Use the find islands tool, and support all of those by hand. Then continue adding supports until you don't have failures from lack of supports (3D printing can be tricky).
Also, isn't a new version of Warcry coming out? GW doesn't do anything customer friendly...
True enough, supporting models for printing is a whole art on its own! For all of the models I printed in this video, I used the Lychee "Magic" button, it generally does a good job finding most of the spots I would probably support on my own, and in this scale, it was still kind of overkill. I'm sure someone who knew how to support minis properly wouldn't need nearly as many to get these to print out alright. I didn't end up having any failures or issues, and I'm 99% sure it's because of scale. If these were normal 28mm 32mm models then for sure there would be failures, that's probably why I don't print very often unless it's for a specific reason.
Yeah, the new Warcry just came out, and there is new terrain and special rules that go with it. I'll probably pick up the core book just to have those specific rules (which I've heard are actually quite good) but for getting into it, the free core rules are more than enough to get a good game in. Basic, but still just as good as the original vanilla game. That's really where the surprise comes in right? They generally aren't consumer friendly, but here we are with a good ruleset and cards to play every faction in the game currently. If you're into it then I imagine buying a book to expand the ruleset wouldn't be a huge leap, and if you have models and terrain then you don't need the $250 box, which is really weird for GW to do. I think it's a step in the right direction at the very least and I'm glad they made it available.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I haven't played Warcry because of the cost involved, but this video does demonstrate a fun way to start. The small minis seem more approachable. If it's a good rule set, then you're right about there being some value to the free rules.
Pocket Hammer, like Pocket Billiards, but more painful.
Man I got one of those tiny billiard sets when I was a kid. I thought it was the coolest thing. The balls were even kind of heavy and the sticks were weighted. It was awful, but it was pretty neat at the same time. At least painting minis gives you more experience painting minis whereas tiny pool won't help you at all lol.
Jinjer 🤘
The best!
I was going to make a joke about mounted units not being able to climb, but then the camera angle changed and I saw that there was a rickety staircase behind him. Thanks for ruining my unfunny “ackshually” joke.
lol yeah I made sure there was access on all sides, I really like that about Warcry, still, horses and ladders probably don't mix.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues Forgot to say, amazing work! I’ve always loved the eBay miniature rescue series, and because I have to budget quite a bit myself to be able to war game, it really strikes home with me to see you rescue and revitalize old miniatures. There’s just something therapeutic about rescuing an old and badly assembled/painted miniature, then breathing new life into it, cherishing it, and letting it see some action and glory on the tabletop again. The couple newer videos I’ve seen from you about the extra tiny scale stuff have also been awesome and filled with clever ideas. Honestly, not sure why I haven’t subbed already, but doing it now! Keep up the great work. 😁👍
EBay Miniature Starter Sets? :)