Tanares Adventures Review - It's Not Easy To Get Going, But It's Well Worth It

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @BoardGameCo
    @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +18

    Minor Update: I'll be doing a series of filmed gameplays with Dragori Games for Tanares Adventures that are paid content. The discussions around this ONLY ever started after this review.

    • @chenchen_9999
      @chenchen_9999 Рік тому

      Looking forward to the gameplay video. Have you finished the Tanares Campaign?

    • @michaelb8111
      @michaelb8111 Рік тому +1

      I think a rules accurate playthrough with the devs will be awesome for learning and enjoyment!

    • @Doujou
      @Doujou Рік тому

      Have they addressed any of your “issues” from this video going into the new campaign upgrades?

    • @philthephreak
      @philthephreak Рік тому

      If you look at the improvements section of the new KS campaign it seems they’ve addressed most if not all the complaints

  • @Phlanx06
    @Phlanx06 Рік тому +24

    Excellent video Alex! The game is definitely a lot for new players and we've already been working on releasing a revised tutorial experience to help ease players into the game better.
    Let me know if you'd like help making a playthrough video.

  • @paulharper7185
    @paulharper7185 Рік тому +14

    Best fantasy game I have evey played, 7 quests in and every one has been absoutely different. Do not let the the 101 quests in the questbook fool you, you may have encounters that are played out on the table BEFORE you get to a quest to complete a cycle. Plus there are mini games in the journal, with your success that impacts where you go and what you will engage. Crazy good.

  • @chrisbraga6638
    @chrisbraga6638 Рік тому +3

    Great review, Alex. It's like Dragori watched it and incorporated all your comments into its upcoming KS with the new update pack. Improved tutorial? Check. No more swapping out books? Check. Actual city/world map? Check. Heroes original abilities remaining relevant? Check (at least that's how I undedrstand it). The one point I haven't seen mentioned is the Level 1 Kemet taking away a special power. Did you find a house rule you prefer?

  • @davidarlington1206
    @davidarlington1206 Рік тому +6

    Your video is pretty spot on for the complaints, the plusses and the final ranking even taking those complaints into account. I was so disappointed in Frosthaven's sequel to Gloomhaven being mostly just more of the same, but Tanares to Arena is a MASSIVE improvement. Considering how much thought went into Tanares as an improvement (even to redoing the original minis for original backers), I have no doubt Dragori will address a lot of these complaints going forward.

  • @commandershepard9920
    @commandershepard9920 Рік тому +6

    OOOOooooOOOO! I've been waiting a long time for your review on this one. Your review of AtC (back in my early days of Kickstarting games) was what convinced me to late pledge this one.
    I've been all over the place; at one point I regretted backing this game. But now, it's... actually my #1 most anticipated backed game as I'm a huge D&D player and I want some "heavier" games in my collection.

  • @thebrewgeek
    @thebrewgeek Рік тому +6

    I love Arena, so going all-in for Tanares was an easy decision. Zero regrets. I love it and I’m painting the minis as I go.

  • @reasonlost
    @reasonlost Рік тому +5

    I love arena the contest but got completely overwhelmed trying to start Tanares. This video is the motivation I need, now to find the time and space to try to get this on a table again.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +2

      It's overwhelming at first for sure.

  • @Sk33z0kap
    @Sk33z0kap Рік тому +2

    Man, oh man. So much stuff going on... I went for an almost all-in, just missing some characters packs because I wasn't able to commit to some stuff. I'll have to give Arena a shot before all this to get me started?
    Problem is: too many freaking campaign games to play... Between Middara, all-in HexploreIt content, Frosthaven, Dungeon Universalis, Machina Arcana, Sleeping Gods amd several others coming in (like ISS Vanguard, League of Dungeoneers, among others)
    How do you do it? Do you play one until you say: That's enough, getting tired of this, and start another one, or do you power through it until you actually finish "campaigning"?
    Been loving your content though, keep it up!

  • @01hornsfan
    @01hornsfan Рік тому +4

    When I pledged for this, I was on a hunt for the holy grail of dungeon crawlers. Years later, my idea of what is appealing has changed SIGNIFICANTLY. To paraphrase your video title and your review, this feels like "It's a good game, but you have to work for it." As time has gone by, I've stopped looking for detail and endless variability, and want an enjoyable game I DON'T have to work for. Let's put minis on the board, roll some dice, crash them together, and have some fun.
    As time has gone by, I've moved on from games like
    - Shadows of Brimstone
    - Sword and Sorcery
    - Oathsworn
    - Machina Arcana
    Now, the games that I look forward to actually playing are
    - Massive Darkness 2
    - Zombicide
    - Lands of Galzyr
    - Cthulhu: DMD
    The former are big, hulking campaigns that ship in multiple boxes and multiple waves and have campaigns that make you struggle to say "Where were we in this game again?" the next time you play several weeks later.
    The latter are episodic, 2 hour dice chunkers that still generate an enjoyable gaming experience but also respect your time (I feel like that's a phrase I hear a lot these days).
    For the crowd that likes the 80 characters and the 200 loot cards and the endless linked gameplay sessions and love living in those worlds, Tanares might be right up their alley. Great--they absolutely deserve games like that. And clearly Dragori put a LOT of time and heart into this game. But man, as I have grown older, I like the games with easier setups, shorter rulebooks, and more limited scope a lot more.
    This is all to say--all three boxes of Tanares finally arrived, and I can't even bring myself to open most of it. It's just no longer what I'm looking for in weekend board gaming. 😞

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому

      I totally get it. MD2 is amazing for what you're saying...as are Zombicide and Cthulhu DMD.

    • @01hornsfan
      @01hornsfan Рік тому +1

      @@BoardGameCo That being said, I immensely appreciate your work on this channel. Even if this game is no longer in the sweet spot for my gaming interests, this review was really helpful to confirm that. Hopefully it means something to you that I still watched your ENTIRE video about a game I'm probably going to sell (to someone who will hopefully love it).

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому

      @@01hornsfan It does :)

  • @DVCBear
    @DVCBear Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the review. This game is Up Next after I complete ATO Cycle 3. I honestly was a little intimidated until your review. I was actually having some regrets that I went all in and nervous about the final game. This review is very promising.

  • @HashStrid
    @HashStrid Рік тому +3

    Great review, very thorough. This seems like what most people hoped descent 3rd edition would be.
    Very interested in the round up you mentioned, specifically frosthaven.
    Got too many campaign games.

  • @Daedalus_Dragon
    @Daedalus_Dragon Рік тому +1

    This looks like it would make a great Xbox//PS5 game. I can’t justify another $1000 boardgame with a mountain of plastic.

  • @bendevor
    @bendevor Рік тому +2

    I have the same complaint about kemet lvl 1, i just ignore lvl 1 and add 2 stars monters, instead, 3 stars instead of 2, harder but funier than loosing a special

  • @draphsor
    @draphsor Рік тому +4

    Look forward to the campaign game showdown!

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +1

      Likewise :) I have one more game I need to dive into first.

  • @ModularLanding
    @ModularLanding Місяць тому

    I just got this game 2 weeks ago and have been having fun with it. It’s a great combination of many things: tactical game, dungeon crawling, puzzle solving, leveling up RPG, choose your own adventure, resource management. It’s a bit sprawling and huge but that’s also part of the appeal. Probably my main complaints are that the writing is below average and hard for me to follow (for a game that has so much story!), the Kemet difficulty system doesn’t seem great, and it’s hard to remember all the rules. But those are minor quibbles in a game that is so obviously super ambitious. I think the City Phase and World Phases are pretty cool. Great review and great coverage, Alex, as always! Thank you.

    • @ModularLanding
      @ModularLanding Місяць тому

      Oh, it seems that they’ve streamlined the book situation in the new version, which is great. And yes that time quest really messed with me, especially when I got to the Boss. I ended on 1 time and thought I was definitely going to lose! You’re obviously much more strategic than I am to end on 9 time.

  • @raortiz73
    @raortiz73 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the video Alex. While the game has a lot of overhead and the onboarding requires dedication, I am backing it. I'm going to treat it like Sword and Sorcery. Try to learn it and go through the game play without beating myself up for mistakes.

  • @briwindau4861
    @briwindau4861 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the honest review including some of the frustrating elements. I'm curious to know if you're playing with a group or solo and if you're playing solo if you're using all the hero abilities or the comrade option and what you think about that. What makes this my #1 game is the variety of options in how to play that make it enjoyable for a large range of people.

  • @picoolio
    @picoolio Рік тому +1

    Looks very complicated with it's 80 page rule book.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +1

      It's a lot, but not nearly as complicated as an 80 page rulebook would seem.

  • @yamahkogribbis6212
    @yamahkogribbis6212 Рік тому +2

    This was my first Kickstarter campaign, as recommended by Alex (who I had just discovered). Since its taken as long as it has, I've taken up a new hobby... So now I HAVE to paint ALL these miniatures before I start playing. Perhaps spring of 2025?

  • @ajguez
    @ajguez Рік тому +1

    Going all in.. this channel has the best Tanares content on UA-cam and on day one, it’s appears on fire!

  • @jarldjevel6111
    @jarldjevel6111 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely spot on!! I'm used to play Arena and man... the start was a rough one... And finding all components in all boxes to set up the game. But I'm not as far engaged in the campaign. I'm sure it's a raw jewel that you need to polish. I'll see after a few more plays.

  • @Oo-zp2wm
    @Oo-zp2wm Рік тому +1

    Ok i made up my mind; i dont have time for this!
    Thx.

  • @mikevincent564
    @mikevincent564 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for reviewing this, playing Arena the Contest right now and enjoying it. Have this one on the shelf for afterwards

  • @thelobbyist
    @thelobbyist Рік тому +3

    Glad to see you liked this one! I'm actually on the fence between Arena/Tanares and Wild Assent which, if I remember correctly, Alex had rated higher on his top 100.
    These two games feel very similar to me in what they have to offer. Apart from KS related stuff (i.e. shipping delays) does anyone have any tiebreakers that can point me in either direction? Thanks!

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +2

      Oh man....that's a hard choice ....I'd probably say tanares. But it is close.

    • @thelobbyist
      @thelobbyist Рік тому

      @@BoardGameCo Thanks for the feedback Alex!

  • @nte2336
    @nte2336 Рік тому +1

    I don't mind the enemy reaction at all. Thats what you kinda do in strategy games anyways and a lot in MOBA

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +1

      I love it, gives you the feeling of control

    • @nte2336
      @nte2336 Рік тому +1

      @@BoardGameCo in moba when tank hit you in the face if you're assassin you still go for supports mage or carry haha so makes sense

  • @Torkeep
    @Torkeep Рік тому +1

    Not sure how I missed this first up, but having just played the first tutorial mission, so much of this this rings so true. Even down to the loving it despite the learning curve. And I have barely started. :o

  • @DMBuc2k1
    @DMBuc2k1 Рік тому +1

    I would agree that the tutorial has way too much jumping around. Game is getting easier as I play.

  • @Puzzu
    @Puzzu Рік тому

    Looks cool but ugh too much, I think I'm burned out from all of these huge and complicated fantasy campaign games, just way too hard to get into and I don't have enough table space for all the stuff. Haven't even started Middara or Isofarian Guard yet and barely a few scenarios into Gloomhaven. Guess I have enough of these types of games to last me a lifetime as is so I don't need anymore. Thanks for the thoughts!

  • @draphsor
    @draphsor Рік тому +1

    Have received this and am working up the motivation to get it painted-there are a few things in the queue before it. Also playing through Frosthaven with the group I'd most likely try this with, so it may be a few years before i get ot it. 😂 Looking forward to it!

  • @dennisa872
    @dennisa872 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the review. I got this and it is very overwhelming(at least for me) in trying to figure out where to start.

  • @darthrooster1
    @darthrooster1 Рік тому +1

    Too much stuff!! 3 shipping boxes and I’m totally overwhelmed!

  • @koenwijnants6499
    @koenwijnants6499 Рік тому +1

    Hi Alex, i'm backing, the ulitmate edition of Tanares. What are your thoughts on the legendary box ? Are the walls not to high to see clear the mini's ? Thx for your help...

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому

      What do you mean see clear the minis?

    • @koenwijnants6499
      @koenwijnants6499 Рік тому

      @@BoardGameCo well do the walls do not block your sight to the other mini's ? Can you see where everything is , like tokens etc with the walls when sitting at your gaming table ?

    • @Onwaxwings
      @Onwaxwings Рік тому

      ​@@koenwijnants6499seriously man, use your brain here. What do you think???

    • @koenwijnants6499
      @koenwijnants6499 Рік тому

      @@Onwaxwings With the 1 brain cell I have -->I think it woumd block a little bit, but is it doable ? That's the question...

  • @derekgarcia3069
    @derekgarcia3069 Рік тому +1

    Watching this the day the Ultimate campaign launched and youre jot helping my FOMO Alex!!! Haha.
    You actually addressed something that is always a concern for me in campaign ganes, that wasnt clear it anything I had read yet; the ability tobgain and switch out characters mid campaign is HUGE for me. A big reason i tend to avoid big campaign games is being tied to a single character when a game may have 10-20+ to choose from (Oathsworn also addressed this).
    I thimk despite my initial thoughts, I might be in on this one.

    • @derekgarcia3069
      @derekgarcia3069 Рік тому

      I'll also add that it gives me hope that you enjoy this so much, while noting things like Aeon Trespass are probably not for you, especially as they seemed to.much for.myself (for a variety of reasons).

  • @rayrpger6141
    @rayrpger6141 Рік тому +1

    This sounds like sword & scorcery on coke!

  • @buddywahlquist2467
    @buddywahlquist2467 Рік тому +1

    OK, so you talked a lot about the mental load, but what about the teach? Is it reasonable to think that I could put in the time and effort to learn the game/system and teach it to my playgroup or wife and save them from that mental load, or is it just that complicated?

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому

      Good question, yes....it would be an easy teach in my opinion if someone else is running the game.

  • @JoeHuddleston
    @JoeHuddleston Рік тому +1

    Amazinger is my new favorite word.

  • @maxf.7262
    @maxf.7262 Рік тому +1

    Ty for this video!

  • @gibz6796
    @gibz6796 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video and Information! Definitely wanting to get into Tanares Adventures, but a little confused on where I have to start? Can I buy Tanares Adventures or do I have to buy one of the other Arena boxed games first to be able to play Tanares Adventures box game? Thanks for your time!

    • @chenchen_9999
      @chenchen_9999 Рік тому

      The current released version, you need to have Arena core box to play Tanares Adventure. They have a new KS coming at end of June. That Ultimate Tanares version has everything you need to play in a single box

    • @gibz6796
      @gibz6796 Рік тому

      Ok, Thanks! Appreciate ya taking the time to respond.

  • @Tharukan
    @Tharukan Рік тому +1

    27:54 Had exactly this gripe about the Kemet Hunt System immediatly, too, and commented about it on the Update they first talked about it on the KS. Why would you make the game less complex for people that are doing better in the quests and have it be the most complex for people wanting the easiest experience. Apart from it being less fun, it just does not make sense to do it this way. Unfortunally, I never got a response. I think I will start at Kemet Hunt Level 2 as my Level 1 instead and (if I ever get that far) apply the Kemet Hunt Level 1 as the last level instead. Easy houserule, just worried about the balance plus it's a really obvious oversight on Dragori's part.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому

      Yep, I definitely want to find a way around it. Maybe Kemet Level 1 is just you all start with 5 less health or something.

    • @Nayr090
      @Nayr090 Рік тому

      Randomly stumbled upon this, would be curious if you or anyone has found a suitable houserule for this since it's been a while now. Losing a special attack doesn't feel fun.

  • @GaryGriiffiths
    @GaryGriiffiths 6 місяців тому

    still one of the best D&D type boardgames ever made!

  • @pascaltheroux413
    @pascaltheroux413 Рік тому +2

    Massive Darkness 2 111

  • @egon4564
    @egon4564 Рік тому

    Great review, are people still waiting for copies to arrive? I haven’t seen that many reviews for this considering how many copies must have been sold.

  • @paulwastney5134
    @paulwastney5134 Рік тому

    Any comments on the newest update with their new kickstarter? Comments are quite polarised

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple Рік тому

    Thank you for your review, as always!
    I very almost went "all in" on this during the last KS. Received notification today that they are coming back!!! Having put together revised book structure (massively simplifying the reference this book, that book, the other book, etc.) as well as a much better world map for use too, along with lots of other updates and revisions - simplifying storage to grab just heroes, just baddies, etc.

  • @paulwastney5134
    @paulwastney5134 Рік тому

    Everybody do note that there is a help guide and a tutorial guide made by Dragori to help as well. Look them up

  • @klaus1805
    @klaus1805 Рік тому

    Got both tanaris adventures and arena the contest waiting on the shelf. Now just to decide which to learn and play first…

  • @Muageto
    @Muageto Рік тому

    Count me in for some playthrough to get a feel before I personally dive into the game :D

  • @kevinerskine3299
    @kevinerskine3299 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the review. Since I'd have to get the original and this, I can hopefully resist the temptation to get this.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому

      Good luck!

    • @kevinerskine3299
      @kevinerskine3299 3 місяці тому

      @@BoardGameCo I ended backing the Ultimate Edition because of your gushing over this. Everything you loved, are the kinds of things I love in a game.

  • @koonfasa
    @koonfasa Рік тому +1

    Waiting for the dragon skirmish.

  • @michaelb8111
    @michaelb8111 Рік тому

    I'm all in on this and future content!

  • @Twineandribbon
    @Twineandribbon Рік тому

    Thanks for the review!

  • @EduardodeFuentesCeballos
    @EduardodeFuentesCeballos Рік тому

    Hey Alex, how necessary is the Madness Box? I was able to get a copy of Tanares without it and I’m not sure how much do those minis add to the game? Thanks!

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +1

      In my opinion so far, not necessary at all

    • @EduardodeFuentesCeballos
      @EduardodeFuentesCeballos Рік тому

      @@BoardGameCo thank you! I saw an unboxing and as far as I saw it’s just giant minis, no cards or anything, I don’t really understand what part they play in the game…

  • @Dwarfurious
    @Dwarfurious Рік тому

    Do you have a sponsorship with Turtle-tee ?

  • @didierj3836
    @didierj3836 Рік тому

    Surely a nice game but when searching on Google it gives 2 pages only of results and as far i can see nowhere to buy the game , nothing in retail shops, so reserved to just the people who pledged during the different campaigns .Unless a reprint is scheduled?

    • @arthurdent9281
      @arthurdent9281 Рік тому

      No reprint so far. Not sure if it would happen anytime soon since they're just finishing up delivering the game now. So only really available on the secondhand market or if you get lucky and find a game store that pledged for it.

    • @chenchen_9999
      @chenchen_9999 Рік тому

      They will likely announce a late pledge reopen after most of the fulfillment is done as they still have a RPG items to deliver.

    • @Filthyanimal9
      @Filthyanimal9 Рік тому

      Tanares Adventures Ultimate coming to Kickstarter June 27

  • @anddav40
    @anddav40 Рік тому

    Sounds like a 2nd edition would be cool

    • @arthurdent9281
      @arthurdent9281 Рік тому

      I'd think they'd want people to get a good amount of time in with this before they start thinking about a second edition.

  • @Rshawokc
    @Rshawokc Рік тому

    This is what turns me off with this game. On the surface and these videos for me seems like it's complexity is at a level 10 and worse than Gloomhaven. Dragori has had a lot of issues for me as a backer and this game has been sitting on the shelf since I received ATC.
    Also breathe man, talking 1000 mph, and missed a lot.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  Рік тому +4

      I can't stand breathing, that's time you can be playing games instead!

    • @botousai
      @botousai Рік тому +1

      I was listening to him on 2.5x and understood it all lol. #blessedWithAuditoryProcessingSkills :p

    • @Rshawokc
      @Rshawokc Рік тому

      @@botousai cool? 🤷

    • @Rshawokc
      @Rshawokc Рік тому

      @@BoardGameCo that's fair. Plus with the new Dragori KS is doing in June looks like they're just out now to squeeze more money for nonsense at this point. After unpacking my TA KS I found a lot of broken (I've had other items from them broken too🙄) and poorly manufactured pieces and that to me moves me into the Pass category.

    • @botousai
      @botousai Рік тому

      @@Rshawokc "cool? 🤷" Exactly what I hope his response is to you thinking he talks too fast. Especially when you can turn subtitles on or turn the speed down to .75x.

  • @alessandroloru7786
    @alessandroloru7786 Рік тому

    Yeah

  • @TheAssassin7
    @TheAssassin7 Рік тому +1

    This game...is a complex decision. I am half way through the campaign and in the end, I think I am ready to move on from it. I enjoy the campaign book stuff before the scenario, the world phase, and the city phase. But I don't love the scenarios. The HP of the enemies is massively bloated. 140hp for some can take awhile to kill them! The skill system improves Arenas core gameplay but the gaemplay is never as fun as Gloomhaven or Middara for me.
    The story is neat....but way too wordy (Middara is worse at this though). With the massive amounts of dungeon crawlers, this one mechanically does not do enough to stand out.

  • @GoWtheFlow
    @GoWtheFlow Рік тому

    I'm glad you like it Alex! Aside from my poor experience with Dragori's customer service, everything about the game seems impressive.

  • @AlwayzFresh
    @AlwayzFresh Рік тому

    I may get this for the terrain, and throw the game away lol.

    • @05insomnium
      @05insomnium Рік тому +1

      Dude just buy 3D printed stuff of terrain from miniature companies 😅

  • @Filthyanimal9
    @Filthyanimal9 Рік тому +1

    Does all that terrain come with this game? Or was the terrain like the walls a separate add-on?