[Math] Complete Gnonno Analysis/Guide

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024

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  • @Maygi
    @Maygi  Рік тому +101

    Hi everyone ! Just to clarify, no, I'm not quitting (I'm not sure where this rumor started) - I think some people may have taken it out of context on my stream, I was talking about seriously quitting my actual job (as they were forcing people back into office), though that has folded and I get to stay working remote anyway! Anyways, I'll be streaming my Gnonno pulls as soon as she's out tomorrow (or as soon as I get up, anyway), so make sure to catch me at twitch.tv/maygii !
    Also as usual, I'll update with any clarifications/fixes here.
    "What's with the 2x 561K on max investment" woops, the bar for Lan should be topping out at 517K.
    "So triple physical is useless then" it's not useless per-se, the rotation is just really clunky and awkward but can totally pump out some viable damage. With the Umi bugfix it might actually see a lot of power with Umi main DPS, we'll have to see.

    • @isimply5381
      @isimply5381 Рік тому +5

      Thanks god ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @SealTeam646
      @SealTeam646 Рік тому +6

      I always tend to respect the decisions of others. Still, thank you for those clarifications. I wasn't really aware of those rumors either.

    • @siphi7583
      @siphi7583 Рік тому

      Wait, so you will do Rubilia math video? Take my upvote then.

    • @pijay678
      @pijay678 Рік тому +3

      out of context stream moments hahaha

  • @mapixmapix3672
    @mapixmapix3672 Рік тому +39

    don't quit maygi

  • @ByakuRyuu
    @ByakuRyuu Рік тому +27

    Thank you very much as always Maygi.

  • @Crystalwizardtrue
    @Crystalwizardtrue Рік тому +20

    you are the best,thanks for the extreme effort doing this, we appreciate it,wholeheartedly!

  • @Denwor
    @Denwor Рік тому +13

    Thanks for another great video Maygi ❤

  • @SaintlerX
    @SaintlerX Рік тому +6

    I admire your hard work Maygi! Can't imagine TOF without you, Mr. Cake and Kyrios.

  • @WyKKe
    @WyKKe Рік тому +5

    thanks maygi, very good news, let's go physical mains

  • @LiuAnshan
    @LiuAnshan Рік тому +6

    Excited! Thanks for all you do!

  • @SealTeam646
    @SealTeam646 Рік тому +7

    And don't forget the most important contribution of this character. The hyperactive tentacle girl with pizza cutter teaches us that it is possible to swim in the deep sea with high heels.

  • @VelaApproves
    @VelaApproves Рік тому +3

    I’m really happy with this. All I wanted was a charger for my Umi so I can play her more consistently and she does exactly that, but it seems she does more now and I can actually pair her with my Lan and Altered team. I can’t wait to get her!!

  • @allpicker8916
    @allpicker8916 Рік тому +3

    Don't quit ❤❤❤

  • @Achelouz
    @Achelouz Рік тому +5

    Thank you Maygi Magical Math Fairy~! Gnonno's release will be the most important release for Physical mains who are still around and haven't given up playing ToF yet, because as you know (you're a Phy main yourself haha), Umi was powercrept during her own banner (by Fenrir) by a super large margin, resulting in subsequent characters Lan and Icarus also having to powercreep by a large margin to match up to Fenrir's power gap. Since Fenrir's release, Physical mains have been literally left behind while the rest of the game moved on, many either converted to play support with their Lyra (Lyra/Fiona/Lin) or quitted altogether as they felt they wasted their money to max out Umi. It may be too late for those that have quitted but for those Phy mains who are still around, Gunonno is a must-pull to get back on track.

    • @lolilord9169
      @lolilord9169 Рік тому +3

      2 месяца играл саппортом лира уми + 1, как же я понимаю

    • @nevolence
      @nevolence Рік тому +2

      Yeah. As someone who pulled A6 Umi (and her skin lol), I can't wait to finally be relevant in the game again.

    • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
      @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Рік тому +2

      She's the physical's resurrection

    • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
      @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Рік тому

      @@nevolence maygi said it in the next video. But when I saw the rotation, it still feel clunky that gnono's main DPS. Maybe you can give me some trick to make it smoother

  • @nneo665
    @nneo665 Рік тому +3

    My eyes are happy to see this video.
    Physical squad, lets delete bosses tomorrow.

  • @Drinst
    @Drinst Рік тому +3

    Amazing video, the amount of work that goes into this is significant. Thank you for helping the ToF community. Gl on the pulls!

  • @akaevilvargas
    @akaevilvargas Рік тому +11

    Don't quit math fairy!!! I have a busy schedule, and not having to search for optimal rotations makes the game so much more fun! How can we support you more for this content? Do you have a Patreon?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +14

      don't worry, i'm here to stay !! the thing i was planning on quitting was my irl job, not tof, i guess people took it out of context haha~ and i guess i have a kofi? you can find that here: ko-fi.com/maygi

  • @JkNoodIes
    @JkNoodIes Рік тому

    Thanks for all your hard work once again Maygi! I was reluctant to pull for gnoochi, but seeing how useful she is for both physical AND altered team means that she’s perfect for my account. Thanks for the guide and number-crunching, and hope you rest well after seeing physical rise up again! :)

  • @saddany3254
    @saddany3254 Рік тому +2

    Damn altered gunonno is great

  • @minakatahizuru
    @minakatahizuru Рік тому +2

    You are doing great work with this info love your videos Maygi ❤❤

  • @wanszyl917
    @wanszyl917 Рік тому +1

    Rotation time line POG nice upgrade

  • @dominik3681
    @dominik3681 Рік тому +5

    Good Job, thank you. Are you gonna look into that Umi mdps thing or do i have to figure that out myself? :D

  • @mickiekatsuragi2690
    @mickiekatsuragi2690 Рік тому +1

    thank you ! finally rubilia is next , as a volt main i was patiently in line waiting for my turn again 😖

  • @danielm872
    @danielm872 Рік тому +4

    Thank you 🥰

  • @605TYO
    @605TYO Рік тому +5

    Skip genono, go for rubillia 🤣🤣 this is the first time that i skipped a char on tof

  • @lastfirefox
    @lastfirefox Рік тому +2

    Interesting Can't wait for Rubilia :3

  • @hoangnamnguyen4804
    @hoangnamnguyen4804 Рік тому +2

    The Rubilia dmg bar makes me laugh so hard XD

  • @MizzoF1
    @MizzoF1 Рік тому +2

    Thx for the Video.
    Im keen to see the Rubilia one :D

  • @snake33th
    @snake33th Рік тому +1

    Thank you once again

  • @frenzii8332
    @frenzii8332 Рік тому

    For me the team thats giving me the most fun and best dmg yet is Gnonno, Lan, and Claudia. Its so bursty and the team has really good synergy. I even got to hit mvp on challenge raid today! Haboela 4pc has been a blessing to my dmg output. And also, I highly recommend you use Gnonno's trait if you can get used to using her skill to 2 octopus. That buff is very good and is easy to keep active when you learn the timing.

  • @revoluxon
    @revoluxon Рік тому +3

    Just wondering if you took into consideration (or even know about it) there was a bug in test server where dimension level was affecting cactus stats, so you could deal ALOT more damage to them at lvl 10, decreasing on every upgrade until lvl 90. Parses were all over the place considering this bug can make Gnonno feel over/under powered depending on dimension lvl. You cant really compare previous tests of all other elements where the bug wasn't present, unless you had access to those weapons in test server in order to check the numbers again IMO. I appreciate the effort you put on every video, but i won't jump into conclusions until I test it on live servers. **Also thumbnail says "Gnunno", just in case you didn't notice and want to fix it ^-^ **

  • @Titan.TheCrusher
    @Titan.TheCrusher Рік тому

    I loved it! Thanks, Maygi!!! 🥰

  • @narcodixyadigg781
    @narcodixyadigg781 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the content!!

  • @danielkurtz3045
    @danielkurtz3045 Рік тому +2

    Her power is just her constantly bitchslapping the enemy

  • @MRafas-ie9zh
    @MRafas-ie9zh Рік тому +2

    Dont wanna bench my A1 Umi
    I also dont have a lot of pulls cuz of Fiona lol
    What I dont understand is why do you make a on-field matrix comparison and not the NEEDED off-field comparison?
    First you say that we need matrices from different categories, and now ppl say that 4pc Umi is much better than 2pc Umi/Gunono. Is Guno elemental buff so dogshit its not worth it? I dont understand

  • @IamAvidity
    @IamAvidity Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the maths

  • @ozymandias2630
    @ozymandias2630 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for all the work you have done

  • @Drropz
    @Drropz Рік тому +1

    Thnks for the videos

  • @jeffery_pentest5201
    @jeffery_pentest5201 Рік тому +5

    Need some advice I’m phys main
    I have c5 Lin and I can only c0 gnnuno but I want c6 lin
    So I want to know if it’s worth to pull gnnuno c0 or I should go for lin c6

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Рік тому +1

      If u are a phys main drop Lin. Lin isnt good for physical

    • @ONIGIRIKINGU
      @ONIGIRIKINGU Рік тому

      I dont understand how you didnt save for fiona and gunno

  • @bytes021
    @bytes021 Рік тому +1

    thank you for the hardwork! hope i get lucky and i get Lin and Gnono for my altered comp for my alt acc xD
    suprised Lan work with gnono though😮

  • @Narwhal2025
    @Narwhal2025 Рік тому +4

    Physical is the best team now with gunono ? 🤔

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Рік тому

      What a suprise. But im suprised Altered comp with Gunonno is the 2nd strongest team now

  • @jinmori7561
    @jinmori7561 Рік тому +4

    I just retired from tof but still here only for ur cute voice i love ur voice soo much im playing these days honkai star rail.

    • @y_strikes2770
      @y_strikes2770 Рік тому +2

      Yikes

    • @ZincZXzinx
      @ZincZXzinx Рік тому +3

      Her accent is the main thing that puts me off but I watch bcoz knowledge.

    • @jinmori7561
      @jinmori7561 Рік тому +1

      But i quit tof

  • @archz6
    @archz6 Рік тому +1

    thankyou!

  • @yuharu7550
    @yuharu7550 Рік тому

    Thank you for still hanging in there Maygii! Great insight even though I'm still on the fence here..
    Its interesting you mention that in Physical team I can swap out Umi for Claudia, but what matrice do you guys recommend in that case? I got no Umi or Gunono matrices and I'm not planning to pull for their matrices..just curious on the alternatives.

  • @chito2701
    @chito2701 Рік тому

    She's really cool, but I'm reluctant to pull for her.

  • @m4rjinn232
    @m4rjinn232 Рік тому +2

    I need the pizza cutter princess 👸

  • @Xerneas385
    @Xerneas385 Рік тому

    I wanna start ok a physical team since I got some insane physical gear (WAAAY better then my main element).
    I was worried that I would have to A6 her but I'm glad that Claudia works well enough with her. Gonna hope that I can pull some Claudia's in Standart for her then ^^

  • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
    @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Рік тому +1

    This is what I want
    Maybe I'll go to advance my Lyra's matrices 😌

  • @saddany3254
    @saddany3254 Рік тому

    That "g game" when shouting out to D Raiden 😂😂

  • @rohrleger
    @rohrleger Рік тому +1

    besto girl!

  • @xploregasm
    @xploregasm Рік тому

    when I watch maygi's guide, I go directly to comparisons, coz it's hard to understand numbers, lol

  • @lutziify
    @lutziify Рік тому +1

    11:40 gnoono is better with shiro/samir instead lin matrice. also, maelstrom is always better

  • @Laima17683
    @Laima17683 Рік тому +2

    She is not versatile if Fiona is must to play her

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 Рік тому +2

      Every team is better with Fiona so that's not saying much

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Рік тому +1

      Meanwhile Lin was a must for every comp when she 1st released. And Fiona replaced lin in almost any comp

  • @thomasgreenwich4228
    @thomasgreenwich4228 Рік тому +1

    So Maygi what do you think? Is physical Saved?

  • @Kirius.
    @Kirius. Рік тому

    Hi Maygi! Please answer a question that is a bit off topic, but important to me:
    My team: Alyss A-1, Icarus A-1, Saki A-1.
    My matrices: 4 Shiro, 4 Scylla, 2 Samir & 2 purple matrices. All with 0 stars.
    I want to replace 2 purple matrices and I have 160 yellow matrices-cashback.
    Advise me please what is better for me to take:
    2 Frigg for an 8% frost attack that will work anywhere.
    Or take 2 Claudia? and then... far in the future... take another +2 Claudia. And give all 4 to Icarus.

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +1

      Eventually working towards 4Claudia would definitely be the better long-term option! Frigg 2pc isn't bad, but Claudia has a lot more value with Icarus/Alyss ~

  • @godworm7705
    @godworm7705 Рік тому +1

    Hi Maygi, I think UmiC6 can be Main dps in phy comp and Gunono will be sub dps. What do you think? :))

  • @SaderabinGaming
    @SaderabinGaming Рік тому +1

    I still knew umi was the main dps

  • @rhjn8751
    @rhjn8751 3 місяці тому

    yes don't quit maygi :(

  • @SilverneilZZ
    @SilverneilZZ Рік тому +1

    so Gunono literally useless on full phys comp (Umi,Gunono,Lyra/Claudia) ??

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +1

      Not useless, the rotation is just ultra awkward - it would work a lot better with Umi as main DPS, which we'll have to test when the servers go live tomorrow!

  • @xsveron1287
    @xsveron1287 Рік тому

    thank you

  • @yozzu5101
    @yozzu5101 Рік тому

    Let's continue our adventure to Domain 9 maygi

  • @kennethlsj
    @kennethlsj Рік тому

    Why not annabella with lan gnonno you charge really fast with annabella and you have two ammo units with flamereso and balance reso to buff both flame and phy you also get grievous on the flame team.

  • @greg3967
    @greg3967 Рік тому +1

    May, for Altered Team, which better for altered comp team , is it Fiona/Lin/Gnunno or Fiona/Lin/Claudia ?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +2

      Gnonno provides much more damage than Claudia (it's a completely different damage focus, doing mainly physical damage), though the Claudia altered team is still useful for sequential

    • @saddany3254
      @saddany3254 Рік тому +1

      Gunonoo altered you're doing mostly physical damage (same with fenrir altered). With Claudia, altered dmg is the main dmg sources with Claudia buffing alter dmg even more. So both of them has different use case.

    • @greg3967
      @greg3967 Рік тому

      @@Maygi Thank you

  • @pharalis
    @pharalis Рік тому

    Hi, Gnonno 3, Umi 6 and Fiona 3 here. Could you please try to be so kind to let me understand why you use Umi skill and immediately stop doing Gnonno discharge? Thanks 💜

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому

      As mentioned in the disclaimers, there was a bug with Umi main DPS in the test server that made it unplayable. However, Umi main DPS at A6 is actually better to use than Gnonno. I'll be uploading a follow-up rotation guide shortly ~

    • @pharalis
      @pharalis Рік тому

      @@Maygi thanks 💜🦆

  • @chuuuves
    @chuuuves Рік тому

    lost the 50/50, should I go for fenrir reissue or rubilla? I have fiona already

  • @wulongchai
    @wulongchai Рік тому

    NIce guide. i was waiting for this. i was thinking alter gnono team is better or gnono claudia fiona phys team better. My only issue is i only have a3 Lin while i can easily a6 Claudia in new patch. A3 Lin,Fiona alter comp still pulls ahead on dmg comparing with A6 claudia, gnonon team?

  • @bitwisedevs469
    @bitwisedevs469 Рік тому

    For someone who skipped Fiona is Lin Umi Guno good or Claudia Umi Guno is better all A6? Ready to take the hardest rotation but no idea how for these lineup.

  • @00Jas0
    @00Jas0 Рік тому

    tytyty!:)

  • @urielguerra9146
    @urielguerra9146 Рік тому

    Umi A5, Fiona A1, Gunono A0 (coming soon A1) I think it's a good composition.
    But as for the matrices I use with crow and Samir, is Samir and shiro better? Since with Fiona I have 4/4 of shiro so I have doubts about that

  • @Rin._._
    @Rin._._ Рік тому +4

    i know 100% they will pull a fen situation with rubilia this games power creep is getting ridiculous

  • @nocap7223
    @nocap7223 Рік тому

    how to do rotation with с3 lin correctly in altered team, I constantly have a field with a cooldown of 3 seconds, because of this I lose a lot of time. if I stay on gunono longer, then the tentacle stacks end. with any layouts with с3 lin, there is no normal rotation, or maybe I don't understand something?

  • @stevenhack4041
    @stevenhack4041 Рік тому

    Hello and thanks for the videos you make, they help a lot, I don't have umi, which trait would be better to use gnunno, fiona, claudia?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +1

      If you have Fiona in the team, you should use her trait, period!

    • @stevenhack4041
      @stevenhack4041 Рік тому

      @@Maygi Thank you, about matrices, I have 4 of habeola in fiona, x2 samir(3) x2 lyra, and scylla in claudia, okay? I am new and I like the physical team.

  • @ranggaalyansaputra8775
    @ranggaalyansaputra8775 Рік тому +1

    My copium: Zeke will be physical tank and physical final damage buffer 😌

    • @SimulDatCor
      @SimulDatCor Рік тому +1

      I hope Garnett’s little brother will be another flame tank. Most likely going to be DPS but I need a flame tank that synergize well with Lan and Huma is not it.

    • @bytes021
      @bytes021 Рік тому

      ​​@@SimulDatCor wish he was tank too so we can have vermillion squad lol

    • @SimulDatCor
      @SimulDatCor Рік тому +1

      @@bytes021 we just need more tanks and supports in general. As of right now roles don’t really synergize well with each other. Most chars are just one man army DPS.

    • @bytes021
      @bytes021 Рік тому

      @@SimulDatCor i think we also need content that really depend on their tank and support. tbh the eva raid and va is the only one i count heavy rely on tank and support

    • @SimulDatCor
      @SimulDatCor Рік тому

      @@bytes021 indeed, which just points to the overall bigger problem of mis management of content pacing in this game. Adding more tanks and supports is only a temporary bandaid. In order to fix the root problem, they’d have to revamp the entire role system, rebalance all characters and re adjust the difficulty of enemies and mechanics. Of course that is far too late at this point in the game, so best they can do is shape the game in a way that benefits the current systems in place and the player’s interest in mind.

  • @Kytes93
    @Kytes93 Рік тому +1

    what's "grievous"?

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Рік тому +3

      Its the passive exclusively for physical weapons. Like freeze for frost, burning for flame and paralyzed for volt. Grievous is for physical. It gives you a 20% dmg boost which is the best passive of all elements. You activate these passives by hitting enemies while having full charge on ur discharge

    • @Kytes93
      @Kytes93 Рік тому +1

      @@Tsareena54i thank you very much, i forgot abot these effects

  • @Crazmuss
    @Crazmuss Рік тому +1

    Whonono?

  • @bytes021
    @bytes021 Рік тому

    hello maygi so I managed to get lucky and I get Fiona and Lin both at A0 atm. I also now have Claudia at A2.. should i pull for gnono or should i pull for fiona and Lin instead? should I tried to A1 Fiona then A3 Lin?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +1

      It's hard to recommend pulling Lin at this point. Gnonno is a pretty strong pickup, I'd pick her up then run Claudia + Fiona + GNN

  • @Azzu19etc
    @Azzu19etc Рік тому

    dd lyra is gone ?

  • @len355
    @len355 Рік тому

    correct me if I am wrong or if I understand it correctly, but on phys team using claudia instead of umi, does it mean I am going to discharge using claudia instead of fiona?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +1

      You want to use Claudia's discharge only half the time, because every time you do, you'll also gain charge with her skill, and end up discharging to Fiona as well, and won't be able to discharge into Gnonno. You'll alternate so then you can use Gnonno discharge and not run out of Octowhip.

    • @len355
      @len355 Рік тому

      @@Maygi thanks! that was fast. :D

  • @satushidicehd4086
    @satushidicehd4086 Рік тому +1

    15:32 volt still stronger than those two elements while on CN in this stage volt will be deadge and waiting rubillia comes out, they to broke fenrir what happened.

  • @kirukaku6612
    @kirukaku6612 Рік тому

    I got Gnono in my first 10 pulls, should i go for fiona? I only have 60 more nucleous and my pity is at 40 :c

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +1

      If you don't have Fiona, definitely try to grab 1 copy! She does wonders for Physical because Maelstrom is so op ~

    • @kirukaku6612
      @kirukaku6612 Рік тому

      @@Maygi THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @akashi2921
    @akashi2921 Рік тому

    umm isn't doing (umi/claudia/lyra) dischar first before fiona is better thn fiona dischar first becuz u want to trigger grevious eff?
    or alter explotion better?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому

      You have like permanent grievous anyway from GNN's hold attack so it's not an issue - also the reason you go to Fiona first is because you can use Fiona's skill at 99% charge without even reaching full charge, meaning you actually do proc Grievous on your other weapon anyway

    • @akashi2921
      @akashi2921 Рік тому

      @@Maygi ok ok ty

  • @jeffery_pentest5201
    @jeffery_pentest5201 Рік тому +3

    Is gnnuno worth at c0 ??

    • @LunaBlanche7328
      @LunaBlanche7328 Рік тому +2

      16:37 should be good enough.

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Рік тому +1

      She is the most f2p phys unit out of all. (Finally). But it still depends on your support weapons. Fiona is fine at A0 but either Umi needs to be a3 or your Claudia needs to be a6. Umi is a must at a3. But claudia is usable at a1. However the more advancements you have on claudia the stronger gnonno becomes

  • @kasso1233
    @kasso1233 Рік тому +1

    Does she surpass fenrir?

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Рік тому +1

      With some investment yes. And with investment i mean fiona. Claudia a6 or Umi A3. If you dont have Umi a3. Claudia a6 and Gunonno will outperform Fenrir.

  • @sylveon-kn6gm
    @sylveon-kn6gm Рік тому

    its her in all servers or its it in only one server ?

  • @lilzael
    @lilzael Рік тому +1

    no! i can't beleive you're quitting!

  • @the7observer
    @the7observer Рік тому

    Motorized shiro :P

  • @00Jas0
    @00Jas0 Рік тому

    could 4pc claudia still be relevant in gnonno altered team?

    • @Maygi
      @Maygi  Рік тому +1

      Not really - it's not a discharge damage focused team, it's still essentially mainly focusing on Gnonno's output!

    • @00Jas0
      @00Jas0 Рік тому

      @@Maygi Thanks!

  • @FrenzyChaos
    @FrenzyChaos Рік тому +3

    First :)

  • @InedibleSushi
    @InedibleSushi Рік тому

    Would A0 be worth it over A6 shiro (currently A6 Shiro, A3 Fiona, A6 Claudia)?
    If not i‘m ditching phys alltogether.

    • @Tsareena54i
      @Tsareena54i Рік тому +1

      That should be the case since Gunonno has good charge and good shatter. Also shiro is kinda clunky to use bc of her long cd on her skill and bad discharge.

  • @Stinger32
    @Stinger32 Рік тому

    wow need a6 for dmg , guess physical will be forever dead

  • @DenisRozenk
    @DenisRozenk Рік тому +1

    Nice Gunono rotations, team variations, shieldbreak/damage/offfield/grievUtility. All good. But. That spraying pink sh*t with white number explosions over all screen... Eugh, that dev colorist must have some pink trauma to push that much PINK for Ice-Volt-Phys in male-oriented game. -_-

  • @Sumi0433
    @Sumi0433 Рік тому

    If gunonno strongest like lyra im and too much friend will be quit thit game, really balance 🤣🤣