I'll wait to see how it performs on actual live servers. These early access events are always absolute garbage for actually showing how decks perform (Plenty of decks that are touted as "Breaking the game" during these events end up being T5 unplayable garbage when the set goes live...)
It's because Blizzard has a deck building rule that says you MUST play 10 cards from the latest expansion to show them off - while the most meta strongest decks are always just plopping 1-3 new cards into existing archetypes that were already meta.
What if you used kill jaedan? Quasar would reduce the demons right. You have more draw than any other deck, and some of the demon package includes lifesteal too I feel like it’s not a bad inclusion. Also prevents fatigue
The issue is that Quasar isn't an aura. It's an enhancement. So in order to reduce the demons you'd need to play Quasar AFTER Kil'jaeden. You may have more draw than any other deck... Until you replace your draw cards with random demons instead by playing Kil'jaeden... There's the idea of potentially trying to Quasar, then draw into your second Quasar and Kil'jaeden and then setting up Quick Picks and Knickknack Shacks to draw some reduced cost demons... But that's a lot of IF's (And is still predicated on you somehow playing Quasar and then drawing a bunch without using up your picks and shacks in the first place)
@@caseystafford6750 Technically, the reason we have a turn timer is so that Roper McRopeface doesn't take 15 hours on each of their turns. Hitting APM decks was never the purpose of turn timers. It's just something they started to use (Along with obnoxious animations) in lieu of actual balancing.
Yea and oponent will be waiting 15 minutes until u end your turn?silly 😅 time there is for some reason...even when u spend all time on your turn is boring for your oponent
Is this deck good? What if you draw Shadowstep, Breakdance, Mauler, Prep, Expanse, or any of your other non-draw cards after Quasar? Or, just in general, what if you don't draw Knickknack Shack? Or if you don't draw Quasar? Even getting this out a turn or 2 slower looks like it can lose you the game.
@@1KingMajin You don't need to "win" exactly, but you need start popping off by then. This deck doesn't do anything outside of quasar, and a lot of decks will kill you by turn 6 if left completely unchecked.
The only times that standard ever had a stronger deck archetype is when its related to discover pool ot card pool. Otherwise, wild is always stronger and its not even close
Not quite. You can even see in this video that the ceaseless expanse is still unplayable after one pop-off turn. They'll only play 15 or so cards, then kill some of your stuff, and whatever you contributed doesn't add up to much
id love if this became the meta instead of the 30 minute long control marin zilliax mirrors. This is much less oppressive and degenerate than a control priest restoring 200 life and summoning a 40 mana board with elise 4 times.
Dudes calm down! This was played in an environment where there were 10 mandatory cards from the new expansion. Reno was banned. People were just trying to figure it out. Rogue has been dogsh!t outside of neutral cards for a while now, and it's not gonna change much probably. There's a whole setup you have to draw and do before quasar which puts you behind on board too. Even after all that, there's a chance your next draw just bricks.
Oh hell yea, i have 2 Golden KnickKnack Shacks and 8 regular ones, absolutely please nerf that card to "if you play it this turn, open this on your next turn". I'll take one bath of dust please and thank you
It takes a lot longer to get the free drops than it used to. The % doesn't seem to advance when you are AFK (not on the Twitch tab; not sure how that gets detected).
When I'm busy or not interested in watching the streams I just open it on the phone, turn brightness to minimum, volume to zero and it works flawlessly to get the drops
been ages since i played, stopped when the blizard mistreating employee thing came out for the first time. . .WHy there so many ungoro cards? should they be rotated out long ago?
A couple of years ago they changed the way they do the Core sets, with a massive update to cards in it and a new method of adjusting cards that are in it when rotations happen. In the current Core set, there are a number of Un'goro cards made available again.
Why is it that almost every time there is a meta rogue deck. Its always degenerate. Infinite sonya loop. Weapons that can kill you turn 6. Stealthed zilliax. Lamplighter nonsense and now this?
They just need hardcoded "not less then one" rule to all mana decrease effects in game if they just still forget do it every time... Still unplayable deck in standart after release, but who know what they add to this next expansion
If this deck becomes meta none of the starships will work out because its a slower strategy. Why make a card like this that will alienate 6 of the 11 classes new cards.
Yeah bro it's really op. Just draw your weapon by turn 2, have prep and quasar on 4 and draw both the locations in first few draws after that. It's that easy and broken. Disregard the fact tha half of your deck does literally nothing. Just say it's broken and call for a nerf.
@@charlesdarwin6300 there is plenty of room for optimisation, for example you can include cards which get discounted for each drawn card (giants and a rogue spell). And kill jedan (dont know how to write that Name) to prevent fatigue
For real... If you're a content creator, please stop using full art cards. They might be the worst thing ever added to this game. As someone who just got back into the game cuz I was interested in the expansion, watching creators play with all these cards I literally can't tell what they do even I pause the game cuz they don't fucking show their text is so obnoxious, it makes me want to stop watching
I remember seeing multiple said that quasar is just 6 manas do nothing and then I realized you can just have 29 cards that draw
It probably will be nerfed because of the highrolls though.
I hate how that prep skin looks like a minion because of the artwork
You know rogue is op when zeddy can play it
Mana cheat broken? Never saw that coming, did we? 👀
Only thing holding this back is the rope.
I'll wait to see how it performs on actual live servers.
These early access events are always absolute garbage for actually showing how decks perform (Plenty of decks that are touted as "Breaking the game" during these events end up being T5 unplayable garbage when the set goes live...)
It's because Blizzard has a deck building rule that says you MUST play 10 cards from the latest expansion to show them off - while the most meta strongest decks are always just plopping 1-3 new cards into existing archetypes that were already meta.
What if you used kill jaedan? Quasar would reduce the demons right. You have more draw than any other deck, and some of the demon package includes lifesteal too I feel like it’s not a bad inclusion. Also prevents fatigue
The issue is that Quasar isn't an aura. It's an enhancement. So in order to reduce the demons you'd need to play Quasar AFTER Kil'jaeden.
You may have more draw than any other deck... Until you replace your draw cards with random demons instead by playing Kil'jaeden...
There's the idea of potentially trying to Quasar, then draw into your second Quasar and Kil'jaeden and then setting up Quick Picks and Knickknack Shacks to draw some reduced cost demons... But that's a lot of IF's (And is still predicated on you somehow playing Quasar and then drawing a bunch without using up your picks and shacks in the first place)
You can't get to your second quasar if you Kil'jaedan.
honestly blizzard should give more time in turns for rogue to be able to play this deck
I completly agree. But we gotta realize, rogue decks like this that can play 2billion cards in a single turn are the *reason* we have a turn timer 😂
Animation speed has always been a killer for these kinds of decks
@@caseystafford6750 Technically, the reason we have a turn timer is so that Roper McRopeface doesn't take 15 hours on each of their turns.
Hitting APM decks was never the purpose of turn timers. It's just something they started to use (Along with obnoxious animations) in lieu of actual balancing.
You mean you encourage this type of deck and want more time? This deck is vile
Yea and oponent will be waiting 15 minutes until u end your turn?silly 😅 time there is for some reason...even when u spend all time on your turn is boring for your oponent
Is this deck good? What if you draw Shadowstep, Breakdance, Mauler, Prep, Expanse, or any of your other non-draw cards after Quasar? Or, just in general, what if you don't draw Knickknack Shack? Or if you don't draw Quasar? Even getting this out a turn or 2 slower looks like it can lose you the game.
The deck needs fine tuning
I think it'll be one of those decks that are bad according to statistics, but every time you queue against it, you'll lose on turn 4 or 5.
You don't always have to win by turn 4 or 5. I say at least turn 7, you should be good. Turn 8 is almost a guaranteed concede
@@1KingMajin You don't need to "win" exactly, but you need start popping off by then. This deck doesn't do anything outside of quasar, and a lot of decks will kill you by turn 6 if left completely unchecked.
I watched the stream and I knew this video was coming
It’s bad when standard is becoming more broken than wild
Its not lol. Wild has multiple decks that can otk on or before turn 4 against 40hp oppenents
It’s only broken when you draw knickknack shack. If you brick for a turn or two after quasar you kind’ve just lose
Nah, wild has almost every card standard has and even more.
Not even close
The only times that standard ever had a stronger deck archetype is when its related to discover pool ot card pool. Otherwise, wild is always stronger and its not even close
This deck is so countered by the 100 mana card lol. You spam everything they play the card for free.
Not quite. You can even see in this video that the ceaseless expanse is still unplayable after one pop-off turn. They'll only play 15 or so cards, then kill some of your stuff, and whatever you contributed doesn't add up to much
id love if this became the meta instead of the 30 minute long control marin zilliax mirrors. This is much less oppressive and degenerate than a control priest restoring 200 life and summoning a 40 mana board with elise 4 times.
The turn at 12:30 was abysmal to watch.
HS has passed me by
Rogue is going to get an emergency ballance change when launch
hope that's really the case
Dudes calm down! This was played in an environment where there were 10 mandatory cards from the new expansion. Reno was banned. People were just trying to figure it out.
Rogue has been dogsh!t outside of neutral cards for a while now, and it's not gonna change much probably. There's a whole setup you have to draw and do before quasar which puts you behind on board too. Even after all that, there's a chance your next draw just bricks.
I KNEW IT! Who cares about giving your hand when You can simply make a draw chain?
New Rogue mana cheat card broke Standard, imagine how super broken / devastating it will be in Wild..
Oh hell yea, i have 2 Golden KnickKnack Shacks and 8 regular ones, absolutely please nerf that card to "if you play it this turn, open this on your next turn". I'll take one bath of dust please and thank you
Handling the hate and pesky people in chat like a champ! you know whats up champ
Since they have a “reduce cost to 0” keyword, nothing else should be able to get below 1…
It takes a lot longer to get the free drops than it used to. The % doesn't seem to advance when you are AFK (not on the Twitch tab; not sure how that gets detected).
Some people say that having the stream muted can prevent progress.
You can bypass this by simply muting the tab itself rather than the stream.
When I'm busy or not interested in watching the streams I just open it on the phone, turn brightness to minimum, volume to zero and it works flawlessly to get the drops
rogue got some really cool cards... and that one legendary :P
Meme card, will be interesting to see how it fits into the meta though!
Lol
Surely it's supposed to reduce the cards that are to be shuffled into your deck by 3. Not the entire deck itself. Thats just silly.
Welcome to yu-gi-stone 😂
been ages since i played, stopped when the blizard mistreating employee thing came out for the first time. . .WHy there so many ungoro cards? should they be rotated out long ago?
A couple of years ago they changed the way they do the Core sets, with a massive update to cards in it and a new method of adjusting cards that are in it when rotations happen.
In the current Core set, there are a number of Un'goro cards made available again.
Yeah, quasar was honestly a coinflip between complete dogshit or completely fucked
Why is it that almost every time there is a meta rogue deck. Its always degenerate. Infinite sonya loop. Weapons that can kill you turn 6. Stealthed zilliax. Lamplighter nonsense and now this?
Rogue is master of the three evils: getting free coppies of cards, buffing weapons and the stealth keyword.
They just need hardcoded "not less then one" rule to all mana decrease effects in game if they just still forget do it every time... Still unplayable deck in standart after release, but who know what they add to this next expansion
Just keep doing things until they die.
This deck gets countered by your opponent doing anything pre 4-6
Isnt this just broken with leeroy?
Nozdormu tech!
I also love solitaire 5/5 card game
Damn, “im fatiguing pn turn 6”
How does one get the Quasar alt card?
You get the Quasar signature by owning 27 different Great Dark Beyond Legendaries (Which will include ones in the mini-set when that releases)
not playing ceaseless discharge on six
disgustang
About time rougue metaaaaaaaa 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Just like i said on the rogue video and the last video😂😂😂
why dis at 360p
Ba-roken
Not playing until this is nerfed
Lmao this is far from a good deck it's way too inconsistent and slow
Bronze 10 detected.
If this deck becomes meta none of the starships will work out because its a slower strategy. Why make a card like this that will alienate 6 of the 11 classes new cards.
Quaso~
Whenever a super expensive but powerful spell is in rogue, like caverns, myras or vanish, people underrate it because they forget about preparation
Yeah bro it's really op. Just draw your weapon by turn 2, have prep and quasar on 4 and draw both the locations in first few draws after that. It's that easy and broken. Disregard the fact tha half of your deck does literally nothing. Just say it's broken and call for a nerf.
@@charlesdarwin6300 there is plenty of room for optimisation, for example you can include cards which get discounted for each drawn card (giants and a rogue spell). And kill jedan (dont know how to write that Name) to prevent fatigue
For real... If you're a content creator, please stop using full art cards. They might be the worst thing ever added to this game. As someone who just got back into the game cuz I was interested in the expansion, watching creators play with all these cards I literally can't tell what they do even I pause the game cuz they don't fucking show their text is so obnoxious, it makes me want to stop watching
Was I watching Hearthstone or Yu-Gi-Oh?
i call it already nerf rogue,paladin,mage these 3 classess are ruining the game
This card is just bad in design. It will either be broken as hell or useless and I bet never in between not matter how much they try
Just watched first 4 minutes and i already think this deck is stupid
game become yugioh Blizzard version.. and its not good.
Is it? Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't have so much draw )
I also love solitaire 5/5 card game