Did Bumblebee Save The Transformers Franchise?
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2022
- For many fans of the Transformers, the franchise has been headed in a downward spiral for years and years. With each new chapter from Michael Bay the Transformers franchise has just become a mangled mess of explosions and shaky camera work. Until 2018 when the studio opted for a soft reboot of the series with a stand alone Bumblebee movie. Taking Transformers back to square one has been the best thing to keep the series from completely bottoming out.
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Written by Dave Baker
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Hey, man! Love this video since I grew up with Transformers...
However, I was wondering if you can make a video about The Return of the Joker and the famous scene of joker's death
as a fan i still believe the first movie was a decent to good expirience. you actually felt passion and the movie actually had a plot. while i still have a soft spot for the rest of the movies.... i mostly like them for the visuals and surprisingly some actual unique designs for better or worst. rewatching bumblebee the difference was night and day. loved it and i am genuinely hopeful for rise of the beasts
Hey man,
Go work as a director you will be the No.1 Director of the whole world,
Greatly explained keep the good work up
Especially since she didn't scream 24/7 or say no no no no no no no no
Hailee Steinfeld was seriously great in this one. No surprise there, I love her in almost everything she's in. True Grit, The Edge of Seventeen, Hawkeye, she's always a pleasure to watch.
Agreed. She's fantastic
Arcane
Yes I agree as well she has like an energy/personality that draws you in. Oh wait it's called Good Acting.
Don’t forget Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.
Hadn't seen her in anything until this. I had my guard up because of the Bay movies so I was really untrusting of her character at first but she did an amazing job melting away that cynicism.
Bumblebee has pretty much always been a fan favorite so I'm not surprised by its box office success. The fact that it is a good movie really brings hope for the transformers franchise and I'm very excited to see the change in its approach flourish in to hopefully an amazing movie series.
Yeah he’s like the Spider-Man of the transformers
Lol you have the same profile pic
lol you guys do realize that bayverse movie 1 aka the first bayverse transformers movie made way more in the box office than this right, and the had almost the same budget with bayverse a little higher
@@dr.greene16 do remember inflation exists and times have changed. Big robots fighting things is still popular but the level of hype and intrigue was diffferent back then among teenagers and adults.
@@gemevelyn2660 if you add inflation then you are helping his point more, that mean bayformers 1 outperformed bumblebee
Something subtle they did with this movie that I really enjoy is scale the transformers more realistically. Bumblebee is about the size of a robot that would transform into a vw beetle while he's dense in robot mode and 80% air in vehicle mode.
Also, the triple changers are bigger in robot mode so they can turn into bigger aircraft. But their car modes are smaller. So they blacked out their windows and never showed anyone riding in them. Makes it easier to believe you could fit a giant robot in a little car when they don't need to make room for people.
Subtle, but effective at making a believable transformer.
Hopefully they keep it going in later films, but I won't be mad if they don't. Just glad they did it here.
The only thing that didn't go well was SS's scale since shader and dropkick are way too small
I’m not even hyper-picky about them making certain robots a certain size based on what they transform into, I just want them to remain consistent on a couple of basic ideas.
The Decepticons were very animalistic/monster-like, so Megatron makes sense as their leader because he’s the largest, hence the strongest… but then, we get Grindor, Shockwave, some of the Constructicons, etc.
Which is fine, but then they couldn’t even keep track of how *many* Constructicons there were… It originally seemed like there were about 8 only then, you notice that there are about 3 different copies of each of those 8. I don’t think Shockwave ever actually interacts with Megatron. So, you don’t even see if his massive size and power are a threat to Megatron’s authority.
Which is funny because in the thrown together video game prequel (which is almost definitely not canonical) Megatron seems very hesitant to resort to having to work with Shockwave, given how dangerous he is.
Basically, a 7-level, hastily made video game was better thought out than Michael Bay’s nonsense.
@Carl Gunderson the bumblebee movie is a G1 movie so bee is gonna be short
The bay films did a much better job at that, honestly
@@kingslayerx1716 shush it's a G1 movie
I can't believe I've never seen the Bumblebee/G1 designs.
They are so much easier to look at. I can actually recognize characters I know from watching transformers on TV.
Putting them side-by-side with the Bay versions really makes it totally obvious how much better the decisions were for Bumblebee.
@@Juel13 still in the same universe tho
@@BaulFoodmanedits unconfirmed. For now, bumblebee is a soft reboot that's supposed to align with the bayverse (though the Autobots arrived on earth in 2007 in the bayverse, and 1987 in bumblebee). Basically, whatever makes more money
@@tarnishedspark511 I just realized if Shia Lebouf returned it would instantly make fans of the first movie come back
@@BaulFoodmanedits Either that, or people will think he's now too old to take on the role
Let's just hope that Rise of the Beasts actually focuses on the Transformer aspect: the civil war, the ideology of the two factions, and the compelling worldbuilding.
Yeah. Bumblebee did it so amazingly but it had little screen time.
There wont be these aspects since there were leaks that confirm only 1 decepticon, and bad guys are gonna be terrorcons. Though there planned separate movie named "Transformers: A new Generation" or something, its gonna be 100% cybertron movie.
Oh, you should go check it in the theatres because they just did.
they'd have to get rid of the "human" aspect of the story (which I think is a stupid argument, you can "humanize" the struggle for cybertron and make character studies of the transformer characters). I think the civil war is interesting enough, but there's a lot of legwork to make the autobots and deciptcons interesting for casual viewers. They could pull the class struggle story. Easily doable with Mirage's character since he was from a well to do family before the war and cares less about whole civil war and cares more about returning back to a life of normalcy. Truly, a centrist POV which could make this whole civil war thing SO much more dynamic and interesting
Honestly after watching rise of the beasts i kinda miss the bay films at least they where unique with their crude humor the violent kills and the transformer designs which look extremely awesome i thought rise of the beasts was alright but its just feels like it played it too safe compared to the bay films
I really hope Rise Of The Beasts ends up feeling much more like bumblebee than the other films. Not just writing wise but design wise too, the designs in bumblebee were amazing
I honestly hope not, bumblebee was an iron giants type movie I hope it’s traditional transformers of faction wars just way less human interaction and way better writing
They look like transformers.
@@sekiro7397 that's pretty obvious since this next movie has alot more transformers in it
I actually loved the Bayformers designs, they made the desepticons look actually scary and cool.
@@Juply They are cool but unfortunately they were put in a very poor material to work with. You have to get through a lot of unnecessary Michael Bay cliches to see the robots
Travis Knight was the perfect choice to helm this film. As a stop motion animator and director, it was literally his job to bring to life things that were previously dead.
I loved Shatter as a villain. With her smooth manipulative ways, she got Sector 9 to lend her their technology (also implying the Internet was created from her modifications). She knew exactly who she was dealing with and double crossed Section 9 before they could double cross her. Shatter is like if Starscream were actually as clever as he thinks he is.
Shatter is the true Gatekeep, Gaslight, Girlboss
It's sector 7 actually
Starscream is clever. Unfortunately, his ego is far bigger
@@Sosuke_Aizen2.o Yeah it's Sector 7
I hope they make starscream more badass in the later movies. I mean come on, his name is STARSCREAM you can't be a lil bitch with a name like that.
I am 46 years old. Grew up with Generation 1 and as an adult now, I have a decent toy collection kept in a glass cabinet.
Watching the Bumblebee 2018 movie made me warm and fuzzy inside because it honoured the toys so well aesthetically.
It definitely didn’t match the first generation transformers. The movie is garbage
@@darklord7069 Wait, who?
@@darklord7069 Yeah dude, Bayformers is garbage. PURE TRAINWRECKS OF GARBAGE.
@@lordshotgun7168 I don’t disagree since the 4th and 5th movies were total dog shit. However, bumblebee is still garbage and the fact that fanboys like you defend it just because “ugghhhh there is less action and the two insignificant villains of the transformers universe have character UGGGGHHHHH”
@@darklord7069 troll
Travis Knight being involved in ParaNorman, Boxtrolls, and Kubo and the Two Strings, also probably lent a lot to how he directed Bumblebee. When autobots or decepticons transform, you see the moving parts. you can actually see a lot of where each part goes. so it was also really fun to see them, well, transfom.
He also used props in the movie too!
Come on man. Missed opportunity. Did Bumblebee TRANSFORM the Transformers franchise?
Bumblebee: The film that lit our darkest hour.
@@natek4488 Bumblebee has good buzz.
The G1 style just made each transformer more unique and iconic. I got to watch the g1 series a few yrs ago as a kid and loved how the characters weren’t just a fragile metal mess
It was 100% easier to understand what was going on the screen because of the old designs but don't get me wrong I do still love the Michael Bay films. Sure it's not my go to film but I do enjoy watching them. Or it could be because I'm now to far in that I'm invested in them.
Cause they're great movies.
I really like the simplified look of the designs as well. Yeah they have the mechanical details, wires, pistons etc. that make them more realistic. But toning them down was a big step over how the Bayverse added tiny details to every single part, making them hard to look at, and hard to pick out where parts on the face or body are.
Having Dylan O’Brien voice bumblebee was such a good choice.
I also found it funny how bumblebee came back probably from a scout mission in the opening scene and casually killed some decepticons like it was a normal Thursday 😂
Another thing worth mentioning: the decepticons, if anyone has seen the animated series from G1 to prime to cyberverse, you would know how much character EVERYONE has, decepticons included. It made them different because people didn't see it as a story of good battling evil but two sides battling for their own morals.
We can see that the characters especially decepticons were butchered in Bayverse, every singhle decepticon was silver/chromeish and all looked the same, the reboot version however seemed to add more character to them and lets it stays that way.
Right...
"Autobots wage their battle
To destroy the evil forces
Of the Decepticons"
It was in the theme song.
I loved everything about this movie, especially the realistic G1 designs
How dare you use the word realistic about a movie with alien transformering robots
Not even realistic
@@kingslayerx1716 Alien robot races aren't real dumbass :D
They're not even close to realistic my guy
Never ever talk about realistic… this is movie not life
I REALLY hope that they will be making more like these, because after bumblebee things have been really quite and I’m worried lol
I honestly forgot that Hailee Steinfield was in this movie. I really enjoyed her in this movie and loved her in Hawkeye. I'm definitely going to be looking forward to her in any future projects
I liked the first and third Transformers movies (and Bumblebee). I did not like the second and fourth films. I haven’t seen the fifth movie (nor do I plan to). Also on a side note, I can’t believe the first movie will be fifteen years old this year.
I am same on all this
3rd (Dark of the Moon) & 5th (The Last Knight) Movies were best. I was disappointed so much by Bumblebee's movie with it literally being a bunch of 80s B Movies with Bumblebee slapped onto them.
If y'all wanna feel REALLY old, the first movie is as old as me and I'm 15
@@bookmew1081 Wha??????
@@bookmew1081 it's people like you that don't deserve their of right freedom of speech...... Your all kinds of fuck up........
I love this movie exactly as much as I disliked the Bayformers, that it to say, a whole lot! It stands with Detective Pikachu and the Sonic the Hedgehog movie as fantastic, fun, colourful events that are far, far better than they probably deserve to be. John Cena's character was supposed to be the stereotypical bad guy, even getting the bad guy facial scar linked to Bumblebee, but he's such a nice, charismatic guy, and such a pleasure to work with, that's they rewrote his arc so he redeems himself by the ending.
My worry with movie like the three I mention earlier is that perhaps the studio expected nothing of them initially, and let the director and writer and extended team the freedom to do as they wanted without too much studio executive involvement. But sequels will be pressured in to adding this thing or that thing, because focus groups say it's "hot" right now. It seems to happen too often (see Wonder Woman).
Thanks for another fab video, and congrats on hitting the million. Glad I've been a part of this journey for so long.
Funny how all three of those movies you’ve listed are cliche family flicks. I guess that’s what critics jerk off to these days. Boring.
Ok?
My biggest problem with Bumblebee was how they kept cutting to the human character reactions (in the final fight) when Transformers were fighting. Hopefully, in the future, they'll focus more on the transformers during fight scenes.
Everything about Bumblebee is gorgeous! I adore the designs and they nailed the heart of the movie!
Something tells me this guy likes the G1 designs
He’s a geewunner and this is a biased review. Unwatchable. Disliked
to each their own then.
Drift deserves his own movie, he was a former Decepticon turned Autobot, and it would be really interesting to see his perspective and defeat the villain on his own like Bumblebee
Well there it was planned a movie about him with prowl, bludgeon and nightbird, but it got cancelled with all planned movie for the bayverse after tf5
Bumblebee is the "Spider-Man" of Transformers franchise, everyone loves him
Love this video essay, the amount of effort and points really makes this video so well structured. I love the Bumblebee movie morally cause of how well grounded and easy to follow it is in terms of its story, and yes the designs overall are definitely better I'd say. Yes they take heavy inspiration from the G1 designs but contain a very nice stylized approach and if you ask me that's my most favorite approach when it comes to Transformer designs in general.
I one thousand percent agree. This video said everything I was thinking. The Bay films were spinning kitchen utensils and this my toys came to life.
I love how Bumblebee balanced out the humans and the robots, I hope we get that Transformers Rise of the Beasts and since it'll involve time travel I also hope those theories about it erasing the Micheal Bay movies.
Transformers is lit, the cgi is phenomenal
I CANNOT stop watching this channel! These videos are so perfectly timed, researched, and produced.
Bumblebee's fight with Dropkick was awesome, and it had a cool throwback to the G1 film as well.
Another thoughtful and concise analysis. Keep up the great work!
Perfect time to upload this video!
I was really thinking about this movie and this franchise as a general.
I remember seeing this movie in the theatres and walking out with a feeling of joy and relief that a Transformers movie could actually be good if not great! Thank you Nerdstalgic for this awesome video, and THANK YOU Travis Knight for saving the Transformers franchise from further humiliation and ruin!
My biggest problem with bumblebee is that the cybertron scenes completely overshadow the rest of the film. Even in this essay you went on about the G1 designs but the 3 main Transformers (Shatter, Dropkick and bumblebee) are either completely original characters or in bumblebee's case has a design that doesn't at all resemble G1.the only time we see G1 designs are with the characters on cybertron and optimus. I still enjoy the movie and respect it for showing restraint characters wise but the cybertron scene definitely stole the show; which is why currently we're getting a bunch of toys of characters that appeared in that scene for 3 seconds and even a CG animated cybertron film now.
the original version of bumblebee didn't include the opening sequence. it was decided to add it at the last second after feedback from test screenings
Very informative. I learned a lot about how the filmmaking process was made.
Agreed. A refreshing change of pace and would like to see more from this universe.. especially the first 10 minutes.
I was a little, LITTLE kid, when I first watched the 07 Transformers. It introduced me to the franchise, and there are still things I enjoy about it for sure. But having grown up exploring the other stories through the history of Transformers, Bumblebee was such a wonderful breath of fresh air.
You could feel the respect for the original characters and storyline, it finally felt like The Transformers. I will always have a place in my heart for the original Bay-formers, but I will genuinely adore the real Transformers, and it felt very cathartic to finally see that same love on the big screen.
congrats on 1mil, amazing channel, always excited for a vid
Am i the only one, who appreciates transformers 1 and two as some kind of guilty pleasur epic summer blochbuster thing? Sorry but I always enjoy to go back to these.
Man... I remember when the first bay movie came out, my friends were into it but seeing that first transformation instantly had me confused about what I was looking at... it felt like an over edited fight scene with too much close shots. This bumble bee movie really got me liking it 👌
I had completely forgotten about this movie before I watched this video.
Now I can't wait to see it
Yes, Bumblebee 2018 made me a fan of franchise again, after losing my hope back in 2014 after seeing Age of Extinction. Now, I cannot wait for the new ROTB movie!
Wow nerdstalgic,you've fone it again! Great video,Man
I loved everything about this movie! I just wish we knew when a sequel was coming out, I haven’t heard a peep about it at all!
That opening scene omg I nearly cried it was like someone had dipped into my imagination as a kid in the 80s.
I wish this had kicked off a bumblebee specific universe
I was so bummed out by Transformers 2 (2009) that I never thought to watch anything else from the franchise, or Bumblebee - but now I am looking forward to watching this!
Hii there pal!!
Big Fan! Tbh I love your in depth videos about cinematography and editing but I would also really love to see your take on movie scores and how they affect the movies!
In particular, you can even make individual videos about different type of scores like the electronic one in TRON Legacy or the dramatic one in Dunkirk..idk I just love soundtracks.
See yaa 🙂
Time to subscribe. You’re content is amazing
"Thanks to you, B-127, we have a future." -Optimus Prime, post-credits scene
The opening sequence is one of my favorite scenes in all the movies. It's so good now I just want a movie about the war on Cybertron.
Congrats on 1 mil
I loved all the transformers films, they all had great moments and they were all so cool!!!
I really liked bumblebees voice in this movie. Hope we get to hear more of his voice in future movies because it sounds really good.
It is cool that the nerdstalgic crew made a video from a fan suggestion. They should do it more often as an Patreon tier.
I didn’t realize that this movie made as much as it did! I know the budget was down compared to the Bay movies so that is cool to know. I thought they went ahead with the whole reboot of the universe because it was universally appraised but knowing it made that much definitely puts things into perspective a bit more.
I still feel the original Trilogy is a good group of films. Heck Dark of the Moon (TF3) is still my favourite film of all time. I feel that 4&5 were the ones that started to just take it too far and started the franchise downhill. Because honestly I would suggest that the golden age of transformers was from around 2009-2013. Also, I am getting tired of the “I can’t see what’s going on complaint”. I’ve never understood it. If my 6 year old self could understand what was going on and could see the action fine then I don’t think it was the movies problem. I’m just getting really tired of the cliche hating on the Bayverse. However I do feel like Bumblebee is a proper step in the right direction. I think if we can get a perfect mix of the bay movies and Bumblebee, We can actually get an all around really good and enjoyable film. Not just on a cool action movie level but possibly something even greater. Really hoping that Rise of the Beasts can deliver on that.
Agreed 100%. Especially with the DOTM being my favorite. It's not hard to see what's going on, you just need to pay a minimal amount of attention. I find it ironic that people claim Bayverse is hard to follow yet also complain about how simplistic It can be. I feel like at this point the hate on Bayformers is just there to be there. There's no rhyme or reason other than It's mainstream and people hate it because at this point "why not." All of the real complaints that I've seen aren't prominent at all, like the corny jokes and short moments. I just hope that Transformers won't go down the hole that Star Wars did and make everything the original generation but new. Since while I like G1, I don't want to see the same designs and stories forever y'know?
@@sashabraus9422 My thoughts exactly
I prefer TF 2007 and DOTM.
Fun fact: ROTF was filmed without a script.
yes i agree
man, now i wana rewatch it. i do remember really liking it but haven't felt the desire to revisit for whatever reason.
I've heard they're also making a Cybertron movie too, it should show: who was Megatron before the war; who was Optimus before the war; lower, middle and higher classes; the high council meeting that started it all; Megatron meeting Starscream near the Trypticon station; Optimus gaining the Matrix of Leadership; finish on Transformers entering the Ark.
So it would be a prequel to Rise of the Beasts or something like that, and that movie would start with the classical Ark scene, that was present in g1 and TFoC.
Well made and I totally agree. Cheers.
Just watched Transformers again earlier this week and then went and watched some of Bay’s music videos from early 90s. Same aesthetic as his movies but more consumable.
I'd love to see an episode on the film adaptation of A Scanner Darkly - why it's a hugely underrated piece of cinema, how the rotoscoping elevates the material, and even maybe how it felt like it kickstarted Robert Downey Jr. as an actor again.
impressively enough, this movie actually has a coherent story about trauma that it explores through “the girl and her car” that it develops simultaneously in the main duo. Both hide away from the world due to traumatic events (Charlie’s father’s death and Bumblebee getting separated from his kind, attacked by the military and mutilated by Blitzwing) and through their attachment open back up again and return to their worlds after consecrating their growth by making the difficult yet necessary choice to part ways.
There a few flaws along the way, but… The other movies never even TRIED to give any of the TITULAR CHARACTERS… a character arc.
Unless the sub 500 million dollar returns (despite being over a threefold return on investment) cause the studio to stupidly regress, I think we have ourselves a working Transformers series for the first time.
Totally agree… as an 80s kid, I wanted to like the Bay movies… but… Bumblebee was something very different, and I loved it. The G1 Cybertron sequence gave me goosebumps, and at least once a month I watch B and Prime driving side by side at the side on the Golden Gate Bridge..
10:06 Funny you bring that up, considering there were leaks of promo art with Optimus Primal & Bumblebee with his new camaro form from the end of his film; and needless to say, they both looks gorgeous, I'd say this franchise is in good hands now.
Prime will be main hero as said by director..
I guess, movie will be similar to Netflix war for cybertron Kingdom where primal comes to help prime..
Of The Bay Movies, Dark of the Moon is One of the Best Movies!
I've never seen someone explain why the bay movies were so bad in a 10 minute span. You are a legend. Keep up the great work!
The Bumblebee movie was perfect that's the real Transformers
Travis Knight did a Great Job with the Movie!
You know what really saved it for me? Watching Optimus go full one robot army on all the decepticons by himself.
Don't get me wrong I really enjoyed the movie! But man was watching those cybertron scenes get me so hyped.
Hey could you make a Video about Archer? I think the series (until the latest seasons) nails the use of running gags in a way i have seen in no other series. They know exactly how often they can make a joke and when to alter it to make it funny again. The dialog is also very excelent.
I would love to see an analysis of that.
Seeing all the Transformers and even Cybertron itself sporting their classic G1 designs in live action for the first time; doubles as sweet beautiful and Awesome, as it proves those designs can work and the overly detailed designs from the first five movies aren't the only way to go not only best transformers movie Not only is also it the highest-rated Transformers film on the site and scores significantly higher than 2007's Transformers, it is the first Transformers film to hold a Fresh rating, including the original 1986 animated film.
While I've always enjoyed the sheer insanity of the Michael Bay films. Bumblebee's new direction aiming for a more faithful depiction of G1 with a more heartfelt story makes me really excited to see what happens next.
Congrats on that Gold Play Button
For my part, I consider Bumblebee's solo outing to be the most enjoyable instance of the Bayformer universe. Before this I'd come to generally dislike Bay's style, so if they continue to gown down this new route that Bumblebee has set up, I might find renewed interest in the live-action films 😊
It's a good explanation from your point of view and a lot of people agree with you. Even i also partially agree with you, but I have seen bumble bee once.
And I can't even count how many times I have watched the Bay movies. In terms of immersion and experience I still won't mind watching all the Bay movies again, but I don't feel the same for bumble bee.
This is the Second channel that I am proud to watch.
I have championed this movie from the moment my family first watched it... I didn't have the heart to waste money for the theater because of the last movies... Bumblebee was sick a pleasant surprise.
To be honest I love all the live action movies of both Michael bay and Travis knight,I grew up with the Michael bay ones but I feel that the bumblebee movie was amazing too
The fight on cybertron really made this movie and showed the lore that existed. I hope that the beast wars movie will be good
Why not Paramount hire Travis knight to fix the Franchise?
Michael Bay is not a storyteller but a cinematographer/advert director and I think he's great at doing spectacle in the Transformers movies. Also, just had an insane idea when you said Spielberg wanted a coming of age film: imagine a George Lucas, American Graffiti/Star Wars style Transformers movie.
I hope that paramount does something like this with the TMNT
“AUTOBOTS WAGE THE BATTLE TO DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES OF THE DECEPTICONS!”
Bumblebee was a needed edition in the Transformers franchise. It definitely took the movies in the right direction by being more faithful to the source material unlike other entries, luckily not wasn’t part of Bayverse. Even though it didn’t rack up much in the box office it was still a great film, can’t wait for Rise of the Beasts and the other two movies to come out in the foreseeable future.
This was SO MUCH BETTER than any other Transformers film. I'm glad other people recognize that, too.
Just subscribe great video.
80s/90s vibez in the Transformers movie, not only by the elements of the decades, but also audio/video recording quality and the camera movement.
I will never forgive this production of this movie for how it treated Peter Cullen.
I'm a sucker for IDW 2005 ( esp MTMTE ) but damn. This was a good movie. BUT I really hope they can still include more characters in the sequels while being just as simple as this one was. A Beast Wars movie would be amazing if they could do that! that being said, I think *some* stories like MTMTE or some of the comics would be better left as shows, maybe rebooted. Great video! EDIT: forgot to mention- Rise of the Beasts! so pumped. I really, REALLY hope they explore the whole factional ideologies ( I know, I know, that's an IDW continuity hallmark but still!) , the ORIGINS of the war, maybe some pre war cybertron/ians as a treat?
im proud to be a sub in this goal
This movie was awesome
You have bad taste in movies then
@@darklord7069 No, we just want crystal clear plot that doesn't contradict itself. Unlike bayformers. But I guess you're too much of a bay fanboy to realize that. Keep kissing his ass. it gives you no right to gatekeep others viewing habits.
I saw this w/my friend Felicia, and I think she was watching me closer during the Fall of Cybertron scene than she was the screen: I was absolutely enraptured. It was everything I'd been waiting 10 years to see in a Transformers movie.. If that had been all there was to the movie it would have been enough, but that it was part of a genuinely nuanced, resonant story made it hands-down the strongest entry in the franchise. My vote is on Starscream for the next one, which can also feature Jetfire and, of course, Megatron.
I heard that Bumblebee was good, and had absolutely no interest because I thought it would just be good for a Transformers movie. If all that you say is actually true, I may just give this franchise another shot. I cannot express just how much it pained me to watch the Michael Bay ones. And I'm not even a huge Transformers fan, they're just that bad
The Bayformers movies can all go in the trash and I wouldn't miss them. But Bumblebee is special. It's one of my favorite movies ever, simply because it's fun and it gets to the heart of a good story.
@@dreamer7770 LMAO yeah, teenage drama definitely is a good replacement to the bay movies being too much into action. You have really low standards of entertainment
No worries, Bayformers is dead.
@@dreamer7770 nostalgia driven mindset is bad bro you gotta get rid of it
@@lordshotgun7168 hater
Its sad that this movie saved the entire transformers movie franchide..for approximately just this movie, outside of that the next movie to come out outside of that is rise of the beasts, and compared to this movie, its a mess
Disagree, rise of the beasts was good 8/10
@@Polar349 It really wasn't, if you liked it, great but the movie was pretty mid compared to Bumblebee.
@@Polar349nope, it was an absolute faliure and practically removed everything of what made bumblebee good. It'll be the final nail in the casket for the transformers movies if they proceed with this storyline.
The fact that Beast Wars is getting big screen screentime should tell how much Transformers fans are going to get actually fed. Makes me hope there could be an animated movie with Transformers Animated style designs or something. And for the shows to consistently get smooth framerate budget.
I still think 3 part is best...the climax action where the building falls off and earth worm transformer ..is awesome
Ikr??
Went and watched right after this, it's pretty good loved the Gen 1 designs makes them pop more with their own stylish designs
They look so unrealistic
@@kingslayerx1716 Since when did you start to realize transformers was never realistic
@@johndoe-sv9th once I watched bumblebee
@@kingslayerx1716 Bayformers was never realistic. Realism is a poor excuse for the ridiculous designs. No one wanted them.
@@johndoe-sv9th I can go on and on with how they 100x more realistic than bumblebee lmao