Predator Tank Restoration - Warhammer 40k Space Marines 90s 2nd edition

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2023
  • Because I hate my life, I am going to try to save this predator...
    Five coats of paint
    Missing parts
    burned with fire
    It's going to be a tough one
    0:32 my history with the predator model
    1:50 the abomination
    3:14 stripping
    3:35 rebuilding
    8:21 my other predators (interlude)
    9:41 painting
    20:44 heavy bolters
    21:04 Mrs Miniscape
    21:29 the reveal
    22:20 Battle Tank Predator Song
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 413

  • @Forsaken12th
    @Forsaken12th 4 місяці тому +21

    The Predator’s machine spirit no doubt feels completely rejuvenated. Great work!

  • @christopherschwab6525
    @christopherschwab6525 6 місяців тому +106

    A thoroughly inspiring restoration, and a testament to patience. Between Minisodes and Miniscape I'm awash in GW's best era of paintjobs!

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 6 місяців тому +32

    You have me pulling together 2d edition and dusting off my old armies.
    Thanks for saving me money!

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому +4

      You are welcome. Wishing you success with it

  • @cuddlemuffin44
    @cuddlemuffin44 6 місяців тому +12

    The sexy sax music makes me feel like I’m at a warhammer speak easy hidden away down a misty alleyway where there’s a street lamp broken away from its housing, causing it to subtly sway back and forth, illuminating the entrance.

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому +2

      Dude... that's exactly where you are with this channel 😉

  • @Tymb19
    @Tymb19 6 місяців тому +42

    Awesome restoration! Goes to show how useful keeping bits can be

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому +3

      Indeed. I keep all bits ☺️ thank you

  • @cedricamod-moulant4801
    @cedricamod-moulant4801 6 місяців тому +37

    I have done some restoration on eldar vehicles, it is such a pleasure to see minis back to life again. Good work !

  • @magnos_decimus
    @magnos_decimus 6 місяців тому +59

    A restoration job worthy of a techmarine!

    • @Ranulfdatank
      @Ranulfdatank 6 місяців тому +3

      The Omnissiah would approve.

    • @fernlenker
      @fernlenker 3 місяці тому

      a techmarine with a song to give the right moode =)

  • @jayhall1234
    @jayhall1234 6 місяців тому +17

    I do like seeing these old models painted up in a the vibrant colors of the period. Its helping my figure out my own retro hammer colors and methods.

  • @JakeStaines
    @JakeStaines 6 місяців тому +21

    As I recall, there was a Bob Naismith interview a while back that stated GW's first few plastic kits - the RT-era ones - were all produced in much smaller runs than most injection manufacturing jobs, so they just got whatever colour plastic the third-party company they used had in the hopper from the previous job. The RTB01 marines were produced in something like five different colours of plastic over the years!
    In the early nineties they bought the company they were using at the time, that's probably when they standardised on grey.

  • @rokki3844
    @rokki3844 6 місяців тому +12

    Brings back memories. I started my BA army in 95 and played with friends throughout my high school years. Sadly i lost my complete collection including custom built terrain by my brother later on when my mental health went down hill.
    Great job at restoring that ancient piece of archeotech. The mechanicum approves (and asks for the STC 😂).

  • @EnigmaGameIn
    @EnigmaGameIn 6 місяців тому +4

    Haha, I'm restoring an old 2nd edition rhino I bought off a mate years ago. its in the same state apart from the massive burn in the side. Took two days to strip most of the paint off not sure what paint they were using haha, The plastic seems to be a lot softer on the old models. Cracking vid

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      Thanks buddy. Maybe the paint was enamel.

    • @EnigmaGameIn
      @EnigmaGameIn 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Miniscape-wh40k Probably. I've been striping old models I never painted but they are all from boot sales and 5th hand from friend's and people at school back in the 90's, keeping the ones I've paint to see the progress over the years. like in your vid the amount of layers of paint schemes is crazy while striping. keep up the fantastic work

  • @DaSkwire
    @DaSkwire 6 місяців тому +8

    "We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster.."

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 6 місяців тому +4

    Warms your heart to see the Ghost of Christmas past at work!

  • @SILOZANE
    @SILOZANE 6 місяців тому +2

    I enjoyed the restoration, but the song pushed it over the edge! Legendary! 😂

  • @MarcsMinis
    @MarcsMinis 6 місяців тому +4

    Need a song for the pred now! My bad. At the end haha brilliant

  • @billistefansson5309
    @billistefansson5309 6 місяців тому +5

    Thank you Sir! I really loved this one. I have 2 of the original Land Raiders, 2 Predators and 3 Rhinos. Still think they are the best. Much appreciated. Greetings from Billi.

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      Greetings! That sounds like a fine collection.

  • @Tlex98
    @Tlex98 6 місяців тому +2

    Feel like I'm listening to Sean Bean the entire time and I love it.

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      What a compliment...though he's from Sheffield

  • @DarrenMalin
    @DarrenMalin 4 місяці тому +1

    That is the joy of playing Papa Nurgle. I can nurgle up anything and make it work :)

  • @coolmariobros759
    @coolmariobros759 6 місяців тому +5

    Just found your channel yesterday and I'm having a blast watching your videos

  • @JDSG360
    @JDSG360 6 місяців тому +7

    Oh man i love model restoration videos!

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball 6 місяців тому +1

    Great choice of funky background sax and Damn yeah some of that original paint reminds me of what teenage me might have done.

  • @dr.sommercamp3435
    @dr.sommercamp3435 6 місяців тому +4

    Mine was the Ork scorcher, called "Gitbrenna" in my part of the world, I reclaimed him this year! All I have to do, is paint him up!👍

  • @Lolxlol21_
    @Lolxlol21_ 5 місяців тому +3

    If you had told me that the end Predator Tank was the one in the beginning...I would have questioned it. It went from out of service/action into Battle ready and its a major contrast from its former self. Great job! 10/10!

  • @sterlingnorthum3911
    @sterlingnorthum3911 6 місяців тому +2

    Loved the wife's response to the paint residue. 😂 I think that all of our wives have had the same experience at one time or another with our hobby,.😊

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      Lol yes

    • @sterlingnorthum3911
      @sterlingnorthum3911 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Miniscape-wh40k By the way you did an excellent job on restoring that old first edition plastic Predator kit.👏 I have to say I'm a bit jealous😉

  • @smoss9813
    @smoss9813 6 місяців тому +1

    I love that she lives again. Great work

  • @Joshsta1000
    @Joshsta1000 6 місяців тому +2

    Great work, reminded me of when I was younger (7/10) I had a space wolves collection, I randomly decided one day to melt a huge hole in the front of my predator LOL…

  • @cheech381
    @cheech381 5 місяців тому +1

    Can't stop getting Mighty Boosh vibes watching this. Great vid btw totally loved it! love a old skool rescue and paint. Thanks for the vid!

  • @CousinPaddy
    @CousinPaddy 6 місяців тому +2

    Your Ultramarines just have that certain “bang” to their color pallet. I’ve never been an Ultramarines collector but you make me want to start an army!

  • @Bucket_Boy101
    @Bucket_Boy101 6 місяців тому +7

    Old models with modern paint jobs look so good! You've done this old pred justice!

  • @stevenmcgrath5114
    @stevenmcgrath5114 6 місяців тому +1

    I have 'rescued' a few eBay models myself.
    Few things in our hobby are as satisfying as returning a Warhammer models to the battlefield! ! !

  • @HauntedCorpseGaming
    @HauntedCorpseGaming 6 місяців тому +2

    You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.

  • @bilko991
    @bilko991 6 місяців тому +2

    I come for the miniatures, but I stay for the songs! Bravo on both!

  • @GamemasterGiff
    @GamemasterGiff 6 місяців тому +1

    When I’m hobbying, my thoughts are often voiced by you now

  • @naturalmisfit
    @naturalmisfit 6 місяців тому +1

    Love seeing a good ebay rescue, especially a vintage model 🙂

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      😍 it's one of my favorite parts of the hobby

    • @naturalmisfit
      @naturalmisfit 6 місяців тому

      I've done some rescuing and repairing myself. Very satisfying.@@Miniscape-wh40k

  • @bejammin2000
    @bejammin2000 6 місяців тому +1

    All I want for Christmas today in 2023 was Warhammer 40k stuff.

  • @fernlenker
    @fernlenker 3 місяці тому

    unbelievable how you turned this poor one into shine! shine on you crazy diamond! Thank you this is real inspiring to bring back things onone had hope for

  • @Dirpitz
    @Dirpitz 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the squidgy paint was very enjoyable ⚜

  • @robinblackmoor8732
    @robinblackmoor8732 3 місяці тому +1

    Just like in the real world tanks at one time were set up to be used as different things. Some had an anti-tank role and some were meant to be there to support infantry. Now tanks are more of a one sized fits all type fighting vehicle. They are not as specialized as they were in WW 2. Having the sponson options, makes this Predator way more useful on the table. Great job repairing this model. It looked battle scarred, but it probably should be dirtier. Some mud on the tracks and a bit of oil and dirt on it. A Predator with battle damage should be dirtier. I think I still have one of these sealed up in the box. I want to get one and do something like this too, but i don't want to open my box. have to see what is on eBay. Very inspiring.

  • @intzbk1
    @intzbk1 6 місяців тому +1

    So, I was in the middle of a big painting phase while watching this video and it took about 5 more minutes before I could reply. When you were singing at the end, I was thinking was a silly song and then found myself humming it as I was painting. Thanks.

  • @adamcharman8726
    @adamcharman8726 6 місяців тому +1

    Last year I did a restoration of my old Baal Predator from the 90s, all that red goop is giving me flashbacks! Nice vid, lovely job on tarting the old girl up!

  • @mcstabba
    @mcstabba 6 місяців тому +3

    Great work! Looks amazing. Enjoyed the new song as well!

  • @taxman3749
    @taxman3749 6 місяців тому +1

    That is some THICK paint.

  • @hangarrat
    @hangarrat 6 місяців тому +22

    No gingerbread used in this video? Unsubscribed. 😂

  • @Daisy-wy5mn
    @Daisy-wy5mn 6 місяців тому +3

    Looks awesome

  • @AnotherMC
    @AnotherMC 6 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoyed how you restored this historical piece to playable condition. Thanks for the great video.

  • @doc_sav
    @doc_sav 6 місяців тому +1

    This is such a cool style. It's very... Crisp.

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      Thank you. I'm just trying to copy old school 40k schemes.

  • @gtf9733
    @gtf9733 6 місяців тому +1

    That song needs a 90s animated cartoon intro with the appropriate bombastic electro music.
    Happy New Predator Year 😊

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      Thanks and happy new year buddy.

    • @gtf9733
      @gtf9733 6 місяців тому +1

      Stick with the wee song after the vid format. It's dope seeing your love and skill with the old lad's mini's.
      Then a bit of musical comedy genius for the finale.
      Seems like a format for success to me 😊
      ✌️

    • @gtf9733
      @gtf9733 6 місяців тому +1

      Not saying you have to sing on every vid tho 🤣

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      @@gtf9733 thank you

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      @@gtf9733 I always try to 😁

  • @TheHobbyGrotto
    @TheHobbyGrotto 6 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic job with the restoration, it really turned out amazing, just like a classic from the good old days! 😀

  • @pizzalord3n
    @pizzalord3n 6 місяців тому +3

    Masterfully restored ❤

  • @GinraiPrime666
    @GinraiPrime666 6 місяців тому +1

    This Predator has always been one of my absolute favourites! Awesome work!

  • @genghisgahan9623
    @genghisgahan9623 6 місяців тому +1

    Looks great, genuinely could not have imagined that it was salvageable.

  • @olabolob
    @olabolob 6 місяців тому +3

    sensational work

  • @bnickxavier6102
    @bnickxavier6102 6 місяців тому +1

    Amazing restoration. Beautiful 90's paintjob. Witty and dry commentary. And to cap it all off, a Predator theme song! Best video I've seen in a long time. Well done, sir!

  • @daiatnara971
    @daiatnara971 6 місяців тому +1

    I was wondering for a moment why that box art you showed didn't spark any nostalgic recognition, until you got to the earlier era box, and then it clicked. My own Predator wasn't quite as harshly treated as that one - at least, most of the damage was in pursuit of converting it, not trying to set fire to it - but I was similarly 'generous' with how much paint I slopped onto it, those obscured sculpted details from before you set to work look very familiar. I've no idea whether my old tank is in someone's drawer or a landfill now, but it's very satisfying to see a similar one brought back to glory.

  • @MoxAmber26
    @MoxAmber26 6 місяців тому +1

    Army painter is doing a new, very well received (atleast from what they've handed out) line of paints so maybe that old bottle can hold out just long enough for that! Awesome work on this as always. 2nd edition is well before my time but I always love seeing the bright colors that come with that era of the game

  • @themainman2827
    @themainman2827 6 місяців тому +2

    Damn, from now on my mind will sing "battle tank Predator, blow you all to smithereens" every time I see a Predator...

  • @darsis
    @darsis 5 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely brilliant and an inspiration as to what is possible. Thank you very much for sharing 🙂

  • @TheLastRoman0000
    @TheLastRoman0000 6 місяців тому +1

    Cool project. Good work.

  • @kushanblackrazor6614
    @kushanblackrazor6614 6 місяців тому +1

    Just discovered this channel. I'm more of a 4th edition era 40k guy, but I love love love the older aesthetics, and its so nice to see people rescuing models like this. Keep it up!

  • @Yamstarch
    @Yamstarch 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video. We are almost the same age and not only did this give me grand nostalgia vibes, but also idea of things to try myself some day. I LOVE the Heavy Bolters at the end too.

  • @SonySteals
    @SonySteals 6 місяців тому +1

    I like the paint jobs here. Nothing fancy, just battle ready with some highlights. Just like I’d paint it in the 90s Damn i muss the old days when I was happy with anything 😂😂

  • @brotherhoodofsteel4751
    @brotherhoodofsteel4751 6 місяців тому +1

    beautiful also love the song you should do a retro toy commercial for the space marines and their vehicles.

  • @stevenmcgrath5114
    @stevenmcgrath5114 6 місяців тому +1

    21:04 A surprise anniversary gift for the Mrs, eh MATHEW ? ! ? 😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂😀

  • @maddokminis
    @maddokminis 6 місяців тому +1

    Thoroughly enjoyed this mate. I picked up one of these on eBay a while back myself. I remember getting one as a kid (the second box variant) - lots of nostalgia! Wonderful retro paint job and so satisfying to see this poor mini come back from the brink! Thank you for the entertainment! 👍

  • @GirlPainting
    @GirlPainting 6 місяців тому +7

    With this, you have been risen to the rank of Master Techmarine!

  • @thepaintingphase
    @thepaintingphase 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video, I was riveted! - Geoff

  • @airraid1266
    @airraid1266 6 місяців тому +1

    I didnt realize I tapped a playthrough of a 40k Mod of Tank Mechanic Simulator.
    Very nice!

  • @dominichails6256
    @dominichails6256 6 місяців тому +1

    Great job. Once more it will vanquish the emperor's foes

  • @norooron333
    @norooron333 6 місяців тому +1

    Praise the Omnissiah the machine spirit have been pleased, excellent restoration!

  • @death2all79zx
    @death2all79zx 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow. Looks amazing. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @michaellinford2790
    @michaellinford2790 6 місяців тому +1

    Every time I watch one of your videos, I get compelled to dig out all my old tanks (land raider/predator etc) and 2nd edition minis. I just don't have the time or space!
    Fantastic work though, and great to see another model saved 😊

  • @8BitJesus
    @8BitJesus 6 місяців тому +1

    The Predator Tank of Theseus! It still counts, I'd rather go down your route of replacing rather than repairing

  • @johnkelley9877
    @johnkelley9877 6 місяців тому +1

    You really did a great job of restoring this model! It looks really good. Thanks for sharing this.

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      Thanks Bud and thanks for taking the time to comment

  • @jammywesty91
    @jammywesty91 6 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful job mate! God bless Biostrip. You ask 10 people the best way to strip a model and you'll get 11 answers.. That said, Biostrip really is the mutt's nutts. I've tried the lot. Even imported everything our cousins across the pond favour and nout holds a candle to the stuff.

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому

      Agreed. I have tried dettol for example and it works but it stinks so bad. Is there a better stripper than biostrip? Probably, but it works for me and that is enough.

  • @ingot129
    @ingot129 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for filming the squidgy paint residue.

  • @nathanielwaggoner3005
    @nathanielwaggoner3005 6 місяців тому +1

    You rescued my heart with this! Just stumbled over this on my feed. Love it, love your style. Keep up the great videos!

  • @GreenSpleenSubmarine
    @GreenSpleenSubmarine 5 місяців тому +1

    You sound like Retro Ahoy, very nice narration and the project came out amazingly.

  • @HallBr3gg
    @HallBr3gg 6 місяців тому +1

    Great work!!! awesome!

  • @MrSandor1968
    @MrSandor1968 5 місяців тому +1

    You left out the antenna's you could put flags on! Fabulous Predator!

  • @Paranormal-Stupidity
    @Paranormal-Stupidity 6 місяців тому +1

    That was an amazing restoration. Great work. Really like your videos. Thanks for sharing!

  • @invincigaz4067
    @invincigaz4067 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video, great job. Reminds me of that open all hours sketch tho. (Paraphrasing) Ive had this mop years man & boy and its only had 17 new heads and 12 new handles 😂 all the best for 2024!

  • @BaconSpaceProgram
    @BaconSpaceProgram 6 місяців тому +1

    You're doing great job at battlefield recovery, Tech-Marine! Love the quip on melta damage LOL

  • @jedthementalist5112
    @jedthementalist5112 6 місяців тому +1

    This hits me with some serious déjà vu. I still have 2 Rhinos and a Predator tank from my 2nd edition BA. My Predator has a crushed genestealer on the front with a severed arm hanging off the autocannon(?) barrel. All pretty good for an 11 year old. I think I pooled some superglue to give a 3D effect to the GS blood (but I painted it green!? Aliens/Predator fan, I guess) and...... I too also used a match to give 1 of the Rhinos some 'realistic' damage. Nothing like the blowtorch that hit your poor Predator. Obviously, as an adult, I now see this as heresy (and do NOT encourage kids to repeat my foolishness, although I was smart enough to do it outside in the open air, away from anything flammable) but at the time, pre-internet, it seemed like a pretty decent hack to inject some realism into my tank.

  • @ellesse3862
    @ellesse3862 6 місяців тому +1

    Great piece of salvage work worthy of the emperor's finest techmarines, from looking like crap to thing of beauty. I like the heavy bolter option.
    Wish there was a two thumbs up option, one for the restoration, one for the song .. excellent chorus, another hit for servitors to hum along to and be inspired.

  • @ironbomb6753
    @ironbomb6753 6 місяців тому +4

    Beautiful restoration! Your Techmarine skills make your Mechanicus teachers proud. The animal sacrificed in the chassis of this war machine must have been a cockroach, because it just keeps coming back.😂❤👍

  • @grahamfowler7017
    @grahamfowler7017 6 місяців тому +3

    Just found your channel and love it! Keep up the great work!

  • @RobertSingers
    @RobertSingers 6 місяців тому +1

    Some of the early GW plastics were cast in the Matchbox factory. That's why sets like beakies came in car interior colours. Possibly, that's why that kit is in cream plastic.

  • @ReverendPONT
    @ReverendPONT 6 місяців тому +1

    Watching you gives me inspiration to revisit my old unfinished Armor of Oldhammer. I keep all my bits for these kits as well.

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 6 місяців тому +1

    Oooh, looks like a gang of Orks had a go at her. Excellent restoration sir!

  • @jonbonne
    @jonbonne 6 місяців тому +1

    Holy moly, the metal rod to replace the broken exhaust pipes trick. I have resorted to this once before. Awesome.

  • @TheGrayfrog100
    @TheGrayfrog100 4 місяці тому +1

    There are no imperfections! Just Happy Accidents or battle damage. Epic restoration.

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  4 місяці тому +1

      😍

    • @TheGrayfrog100
      @TheGrayfrog100 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Miniscape-wh40k ​ Its not RED. But I come from a Family of Blood Angles. :)

  • @Ethnarches
    @Ethnarches 6 місяців тому +1

    Great job resurrecting that old girl!

  • @gregdunn401
    @gregdunn401 6 місяців тому +1

    awesome job there.
    i remember the one i used to have but i played space wolves not ultramarines, that was until my army was stolen when the house was broken into. the problems i faced was the barrel was very fragile aswell as the coms antennas and kept snapping off so the barrel i steel pinned and that did the trick nicely and the antenna i used some steel wire aswell which gave a nice effect

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому +1

      I'm sorry to hear your army was stolen. I have never had that but I lost a large nid army in a house move. Those older models were fragile too.

  • @stevenmcgrath5114
    @stevenmcgrath5114 6 місяців тому +1

    The Omissah (sp) would approve, brother ! ! !

  • @Schalazarro
    @Schalazarro 6 місяців тому +1

    Very good restoration! It was a pleasure to watch. Thanks for that.Happy New Year! Cheers!

  • @stevenmcgrath5114
    @stevenmcgrath5114 6 місяців тому +1

    Back for more, you should get grip clamps, a great replacement for rubber bands.
    Keep up the grest work ! ! !

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. I'm not sure about grip clamps but I will have another think about it. I'm not into loads of extra hobby accessories.

    • @stevenmcgrath5114
      @stevenmcgrath5114 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Miniscape-wh40k You will also find them useful for a multitude of household uses. DeWalt make the best ones.

  • @robertgagne2388
    @robertgagne2388 6 місяців тому +1

    YES!!!! Nice Job on the restoration I luv it. Love the Channel too!!

  • @barrag3463
    @barrag3463 6 місяців тому +2

    Red-tinged metal underneath the paint could also always be explained as just being some oxidation peaking through the latest paint job. These vehicles have been used and reused for a very, very long time in universe as well as in real life.

  • @raeishimura
    @raeishimura 6 місяців тому +2

    Beautiful mini. I have one of these from when i was a kid, converted for the chaos army i played back then. Old beast is covered in spikes and skulls, even has the upper torso of an Imperial Guardsman glued to her hull that was added as a petty jab at a guy from my local hobby shop at the time. Kind of makes me want to break it out, clean it up and restore it to my modern army.

  • @Ferox2121
    @Ferox2121 6 місяців тому +1

    Great restauration video. You did an outstanding work here.
    I started my 40k journey in 1997, so i was too late to get the OG Predator, but i got the plastic / metal hybrid shown here. It was the later (3rd edition) relabeled Predator Destructor and had the autacannon turret and lascanon sponsons. Yes, it got it this way like you, but i dont now wether it was sold with both weapon options or if there were boxes with different loadouts - or if a got a mispackage back then...