Guys, have you ever thought about the possibility, that this is a fake letter sent by the scamming seller who just stole your money and sent the fake letter in order to make you stop poking around and quietly let him enjoy your money? I live in Europe and I'm not familiar with the US government officials communication, but I am pretty sure this is a document counterfeit and a selling scam. I'd suggest every recipient of such letter to get a lawyer and sue the crap out of the scammer...
Why not order one and if a letter comes contact the atf? They'd have a record. Or maybe just double check phone numbers on the document to see if they're legit.
@@joshuasandine3791 That's wrong... they don't touch the bullet. The exception being the oil filter which has to be shot through first before it will work properly.
There are noise laws, your lawn mower has to have a muffler cars have to have mufflers anything real loud has to have a muffler I want a muffler for my gun.
Govt requires you to put a muffler on your car or they will fine you. But if you want to put a muffler on the loudest thing you own, they make you fill out paperwork, get fingerprints and pictures, pay $200 for a permission stamp and wait a year. Why do we tolerate this bull-butter?
@@mobius-1503 this is my theory. Also this should work with machineguns. You have to be SQUEAKING CLEAN and coordinate with at least one other person in each Judicial district first. You're going to need a LOT of money because there's no contingency money if they win. I also am not an attorney. You and others in different judicial districts get arrested for making a silencer or be denied by government to make a machinegun, find a firearm lawyer that HAS argued in the supreme court, pay a LOT of money, put many miles on your car driving to and from court, and have ample vacation time from work. Again, just a theory.
If I attach an adaptor to the door of my truck and place a hole in the other door converting the entire vehicle into a single baffle suppressor, is the bank allowed to repossess it since the truck is now an NFA item?
Kurb Stomper Actually, it’s always been a $200 tax stamp, it was originally intended to prevent people from being able to afford it, but the price never went up soooooooooo, Filling out my form 1 next month
Weird... I found this in the constitution. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Let's get this outta the way, we shouldn't be discussing "legalities/legal advice" for things we have a RIGHT to purchase and own!! regulating suppressors or ANY Other thing involving our right to arms, is infringement...... which makes them LEGAL!
My first view or your channel. I'm not going to sleep tonight. I love your patriotism! I agree with u on a lot of points. People need to hear more of this everyday
At first i thought id disagree with the presenter's position and argument. However, i can find no logical errors and the information presented is well thought out, factual, and logical. I believe i will subscribe. Thank u sir for your time, nicely said . Salute
There are devices that are classified as suppressors that do not screw on, they are quick attach/ detach. If you want to buy one of these, buy one for a 30 caliber and you can also use it on a 22 caliber gun, or any gun that is 30 caliber or less. This will save you some money.
In the original draft of the NFA handguns were listed. There was push back on that and they feared it would not pass so they substituted silencers. $200 in 1934 USD is about $5000 2020 USD.
I ordered 2 solvent traps with the honest INTENT to use them as solvent traps. a couple of months ago from China. And we all know how long it takes to get stuff from China and this was before the covid scare. Anyways I tracked them with the provided tracking number and they sit in new York customs for over 2 weeks and then just dissapeared I never got them or a letter from customs.
I DO have the intent to turn mine into suppressors, legally, and received two of them, different colors, just fine. The third one, another different color, was stopped before it ever left China, and my money refunded. Not sure as to why, but I think it was because of the fake plandemic.
IANAL, but if an arms company is selling a tube with end caps, one of which having the standard threading for a suppressor, then they are effectively selling you a silencer without a baffle stack. The tube gets the serial number, so that's the silencer. So if you want some real fun, you can cut a bunch of tubes from an appropriate sized pipe and get them serialized on the Form-1 and have a bunch of silencers that don't attach to anything. Once you get the tax stamps, you can then finish them or not as you see fit.
I will go ahead and NOT poke the bear. Reminds me of the guy who made the DIASs in like the late 80s-90s and said "how are those guys gonna know if I made them before 86? They cant prove it!" They proved it.
@@claytonatkinson865 They toss your ass in Club Fed and say "Prove you didn't." Attempt to fight a tyrannical government alone, and you will lose. Every time.
@@claytonatkinson865 there was a window to register any that you already had. After that, all unregistered ones were considered post-samples. Gotta be an SOT to have those
grumpybill then you weren't listening. All legal advice is bad unless it comes from a lawyer you're paying to give it to you. But this guy is an idiot.
I was thinking that when you mentioned they give you the option of filing a form 1 to get it.. that just proved intent and they would definitely try to charge you then because you just proved their case for them.
Having spent time in Club Fed for making silencers and machine guns back in the 80's, I know a thing or two about them. First is they should be legal. I say this because only Hollywood can make a weapon truly silent. There are three things that make noise when you pull the trigger. The expanding gas, which is the only part which a silencer works on. Just as your car still makes noise with a muffler, you will not cancel all the noise from the expanding gas. If you are lucky you will remove 1/4 to 1/3 of this noise. The second item making noise is the projectile breaking the sound barrier. The speed of sound is around 1100 ft/sec. A 45 ACP at 240 grains travels at 940 ft/sec. I'm not sure of the 22 short. So you have a sonic boom to deal with. The third noise maker is the action of the weapon. So you need to make it a single shot.
What adaptor can you buy at Wallmart (or for that matter any other common store) that has a 1/2"-28 thread? 1/2"-13 and 1/2"-20 are the common 1/2" coarse and fine thread, 1/2-28 is an oddball superfine thread that I don't know of anything that uses it besides
You could still fill out the form 1 because you could be buying it to make it a legal suppressor. You're buying a solvent trap. It's not a suppressor until you drill that hole
I'd like to point out that crossing state lines without an approved form 23 for a silender is NOT a crime. This is only required for SBR's, SBS'S, MG's, and DD'S. AOW's and suppressors are exempt of this requirement. Otherwise, everything you said I found very interesting. Didn't even think about having to pick it up in a state where they're illegal - that's obviously sticky.
In the past year I had bought these or similar fuel filters from China with no problem. They took about 1-2 months to receive them, but I did get them.
We had a member of the Air Force arrested over ordering one of these. There were other things wrong, but this was the thing that got the alphabet boys looking at him in the first place, and these are the charges that are likely to stick. KAFB -- March 19, 2020. Arrested for illegal importation of firearm and illegal possession of a silencer.
@Interested by youtube Yeah, see "There were other things wrong." None of those other things are what he's being charged with -- most of those things aren't illegal, they're just dumb. The "Illegally importing a firearm" charge came out of the online fuel filter. That, and possession of a silencer are the only two charges being pressed against him currently. Since this is in civvy court, not .mil court, both of those _have_ to be related to the mailed "fuel filter." See this part: "The complaint notes that possession of both the auto-sear attachment and the buttstock are illegal and that Justice received both items from Chinese vendors. No additional charges have been filed regarding those devices, but Justice also faces the possibility of additional charges in military court." Anything found in the related search has to go through a court martial, which is worse for him.
Personally I don’t give a crap what our boys and girls have while in the military. What ever they deem is needed for survival, they should have. If they want a silencer, full auto, explosives. Then give it to them. If for some reason those that abuse their ability, then deal with them, not hamper everyone.
the only thing that seems funky is that it looks like you have to fill the form 1 BEFORE buying the parts, because if you APPLY for a form 1 while having the parts, that shows the intent to manufacture a suppressor with the parts you have, that's where it seems illegal, since you aren't legally allowed to it with that intent yet
Using a suppressor with supersonic 223/5.56 ammo, reduce the dB level by about 25-30 points.. So, a 223/5.56 averages around 170 dB at the muzzle. Suppressed your talking about 140/145 decibels. Still very loud, but not as loud. Now, you can use sub-sonic ammo and get the sound down to almost nothing, but the bullet doesn't have the velocity to do the same amount of damage, and bullet energy drops off very fast. Not to mention if your running it through an AR, it's going to take some significant alterations to get the ammo to cycle.
I'm no gun expert by far. I know very little about ammunition however that being said. About a year ago I was over at a friend's house and somebody brought over these bullets that they said are muffled like a silencer. I found it very hard to believe that any bullet could ever be muffled like it just went through a silencer. And yes I'm aware it's not the bullet that makes the noise I'm aware of how the noise is made and what needs to be silenced. With that put aside, what I'm saying is is that there is a bullet out there that does seem to sound like it has a silencer built into it and I know that's impossible blah blah blah what I did find out about these bullets is that the amount of black powder that's in them or whatever you want to call it granules that are in that bullet is the reason it seems a lot quieter than it should be and when I went out and shot these rounds they sounded quieter than a 22 that's the only wait did I know there's bullets out there only because the amount of p gunpowder granules that are put into them it's a reduced size however they will still end your ass so who needs a muffler or a silencer or suppressor when you can just buy the ammunition that's going to be just as quiet as a suppressor would make it like I said I'm not educated on the how this all works or what that means as far as power goes but I know they exist so don't take me as I'm some know-it-all cuz I'm not if anybody wants to weigh in on this ball means put some education here but for those of you that don't know there's something out there that's perfectly legal that's quiet
I'm not a lawyer , but when you asked if there is a law against that type of action I believe it falls under entrapment if they intend to have you grab the item from their state and break several federal laws. But I wouldn't be surprised if the ATF was pulling a stunt like this they're not necessarily known for having a professional attitude or method of enforcement
Dude your no monster your the only person i found thats for the ppl and not a government kiss ass u give us the info and let us make of it what we will thank you your vids are awesome
Dammit I was gonna get the Chinese ones and pay the tax and machine them into supressors since for some reason regular supressors are around 5, 6, 700 bucks and the $200 tax stamp. The other day I went to the range and my girl loved shooting my AR but had to walk out because of the loud noise even with hearing protection
If you are a Diesel Fitter and have filters delivered to your home you could end up with a visit from the alphabet agencies, (it has happened all over the country) Also this is the same manoeuvre used by US Customs at the behest of Apple when Apple owners try to import batteries, screens and cables to be able to repair their Iphone/Ipad only there they use the excuse of the items being counterfeit/pirated parts.
I’m just here for the free legal advice. 🤪 Seriously though, shouldn’t they be stopping real criminals. Most of these guys know modulators, suppressors or silencers whatever you want to call them don’t actually make guns super quiet, simply as loud as someone yelling or at least talking like a loud drunk person at a rav. It’s all just theatre for the sheep.
So are Super Colibri rounds but they are pretty weak and unless you pop someone in the skull at point blank they won’t do much. No free lunch in nature.
You should hear my 450ftlb .338 PCP air rifle.. 5 shot groups at 500y are 1 minute or better and the gun is half moa at 200 consistently. With a 10in Monocore LDC (lead dust collector as we call them in the Air gun world lol) suppressors... its pushing a 180g lead slug at 1040fps at the muzzle. The gun is extremely quiet like you hear hammer hitting the valve and thats it.. very very little muzzle report. I have taken pigs in the 150lb range out to 400y with that gun and 180g pure lead sptizer HPs that open up to around .60 and near pass thru at 400y. I have taken two deer in the last 2 weeks with it. One at 120y and one at 200y. One was DRT and the other ran about 30 feet. Full pass thru on one and on the second the slug punched thru the shoulder but was under the hide on the exit side so I recovered the projectile, this being a boat tail 180g notched HP (think of a uncoated Berger Hybrid) expansion was .64. You should have seen the near fist size hole in the lungs the projectile left and the totally destroyed exit side shoulder. The energy transfer is insane with those slugs. Firearms don't create that bad of tissue trauma the wound channel 90% of what a mag center fire rifle wound channel looks like. There's more cavitation damage from powder burners but as far as wound channel and flesh/organ destruction the high powered airguns aren't that far off. I believe the energy dump isn't all that different as the big slug dumps 100% of its energy in the deer and the powder burners take a large amount out the exit side. I have pics of face book of that carcass and I assure you if you don't know better you would assume a mag .30 cal shooting a premium hunting bullet is what it was shot with. And you should have heard the impact. That 180g .338 hitting sounds like a sledge hammer hitting a tree when it hit... I have a 1300ftlb 50cal shooting 700g slugs with are just a gaping soft lead HP that i have shot big hogs with... you have never seen blood fountains until you have seen a double lung pass thru on a 400lb hog with that cannon. The .50 MR hollow point 700 grainers are a stunningly high performance round.
kind off topic but what if the drugs where delivered and left on the door step and legit got stolen? would they think the guy had them delivered to another house and takes them to his real house or would they treat him as a thief? or would it be the other way round and think he is a thief when in fact he is the guy that order the drugs and had them deliver to another house?
Are there any qd systems for a monocore filter solvent trap? I clean my guns alot and it is a pain to take off the muzzle brake to thread a solvent trap on.
The part of the letter which encourages you to perform acts that might be illegal should be examined by a lawyer to determine if entrapment attaches. In layman's terms, entrapment is when the police or government cause you to do something illegal that you would not ordinarily do.
Hey, kid! I like your new tat. I ordered a couple of those non-silencers because I need a break from this lockdown and I want to see the ATF boys rappel down from my ceilings. I hope they call ahead so I can film it. I just need to figure out how to get it over to my big screen TV. Maybe I should get a YoubTube channel and post the video so my friends and enemies can watch it. Then I could remind everyone that they need to eat more meat ... and spuds. And none of that damn Aussie beef they've started importing. I damn near have to pay the packing plant to take my cattle now. I'm talking to you, too, kid! Those skinny-ass arms practically scream vegetarian ... or effing vegan ... or turkey ham eater. You need real meat ... BEEF!!! Anyway, I'll let you know how things work out with the ATF. Do you think it would help if an anonymous source reported that I'm expecting a suspicious package? Is there any place where I can also get one of those bump stocks thingies? Would that increase my odds for getting raided? I'm losing my ass on these cattle, so it would be great if I could live off of the government's tit for awhile since China says that this CCP virus is actually from the US Army. I sure wish I could claim to be an illegal alien so I could get free shit. I mean, I've been supporting the government bureaucracy for all my life, it's about time I got something back. Anyway, thanks for the video. Take care and keep your barrel clean. Bo Leggs.
lol that was the weirdest right leaning nonsense ive seen in a long time. who doesnt want beef? if you cant sell your stock, that's your problem. isnt that capitalism? dont you like capitalism? why dont you investigate why you cant sell your beef, or sell it cheaper to people that will appreciate your beef. i mean there's always options when beef is concerned. isnt there a social media option for selling meats to people? if not make one and become a millionaire, and pay me in beef lol. also do you have to pay the people that take care of your stock? or are you able to offer room & board situations? not sure how that works exactly, farms have a really bad history of enslavement so yeah...
There's a modified CVA inline muzzleloader in some random gun store that has what appears to maybe be a solvent trap on the end of the barrel. I asked the man behind the counter if it was what it looked like and he confirmed it. Said I could walk out the door that day with it
I believe I was told someone sells an oilfilter adapter that you go thru the ins and outs to "legally" use it as a silencer so if I'm not miss remembering surely it would be on the adapter
Letter says you have 30 days to get a license to import. Is that the same as a form 1? Or a tax stamp? I must have missed something, I don’t see half the stuff you talked about in that letter. I think you are reading too much “in between the lines”. They say, “intercepted restricted items “ what exactly was in the box? You gave many examples, but what exactly? Seems to me a paralegal could wright a letter saying how the item doesn’t fit the definition and to release it. I like the follow up videos. Looking forward to part 3.
The "muzzle brakes" that are moncore looking. Are those illegal by themselves? I just think they look cool and i don't plan to make a silencer from them.
Strange thing happened while watching your video on my phone. The location services (GPS) turned itself on. This setting I normally have turned off to save battery.
Its my understanding that you need to file your form 1 first before purchasing anything otherwise you could be nailed for intent to construct. Granted I think they'd still have to be able to prove that you intended to break the law. I'm no lawyer and probably wrong, but its something worth researching. Either way, either way I had a friend that bought one years back and got an ATF visit. All they wanted to see was that it wasn't finished as a silencer. He didn't, in fact he tossed it because it was crappy quality and very questionable. He didn't get in any trouble, but it was definitely a scare for him.
It's entrapment (but good luck proving that), and gives them an excuse to rummage through your belongings and your home, hoping to find something they can pin on you.
Guys, have you ever thought about the possibility, that this is a fake letter sent by the scamming seller who just stole your money and sent the fake letter in order to make you stop poking around and quietly let him enjoy your money? I live in Europe and I'm not familiar with the US government officials communication, but I am pretty sure this is a document counterfeit and a selling scam. I'd suggest every recipient of such letter to get a lawyer and sue the crap out of the scammer...
You know you might just be onto something
Of course all the only reason I know New York and Illinois is doing it is because when they track your packages that’s with the tracking number stops
If it was from the scammer wouldn't it have Chinese stamps in the top right hand corner of the envelope?
CRS Firearms I live in New York ,and I could say there pretty strict on a “restricted” items LOLL!!!!
Why not order one and if a letter comes contact the atf? They'd have a record. Or maybe just double check phone numbers on the document to see if they're legit.
There is no good reason suppressor shouldn't be legal. We need to renew the push to get these removed from the nfa.
But muh James Bond movies.
@@joshuasandine3791 That's wrong... they don't touch the bullet. The exception being the oil filter which has to be shot through first before it will work properly.
There are noise laws, your lawn mower has to have a muffler cars have to have mufflers anything real loud has to have a muffler I want a muffler for my gun.
@@joshuasandine3791 This ain't CSI Miami. Bullets don't hit the suppressor and they have absolutely zero impact on ballistic forensics
Make shift silencers. Look it up
Govt requires you to put a muffler on your car or they will fine you. But if you want to put a muffler on the loudest thing you own, they make you fill out paperwork, get fingerprints and pictures, pay $200 for a permission stamp and wait a year. Why do we tolerate this bull-butter?
We dont know where to fight it.. been trying to fight this in commitees but it always fails
Only because they want to hear you come one time. If you're going to come and go, the government doesn't care. LOL
@@mobius-1503 this is my theory. Also this should work with machineguns. You have to be SQUEAKING CLEAN and coordinate with at least one other person in each Judicial district first. You're going to need a LOT of money because there's no contingency money if they win. I also am not an attorney.
You and others in different judicial districts get arrested for making a silencer or be denied by government to make a machinegun, find a firearm lawyer that HAS argued in the supreme court, pay a LOT of money, put many miles on your car driving to and from court, and have ample vacation time from work.
Again, just a theory.
And shite that's only if your state will allow you to go the nfa route in the first place. Delaware ... Nope no nfa at all.
the word is " intent"......don't act dumb.....because it does make you sound like one.
I'm just here for legal advice.
Basically, he is saying.
Buy American.
Love your name and profile pic!
I’m just here for a walk down memory lane….
@@FlameBlue9016 Pepperidge farms remembers....
@@logancurl9526 o/
If I attach an adaptor to the door of my truck and place a hole in the other door converting the entire vehicle into a single baffle suppressor, is the bank allowed to repossess it since the truck is now an NFA item?
The movies made silencers evil now our hearing suffers
facts. in other countries you are just an asshole if you show up at the range without a silencer...
Na don't think it was the movies. They were coved in the nfa in the 1930's? Don't think movies were the big deal they are today.
@@tbjtbj4786 there was a tax from then till the 60s but it wasn't 200 bones and background checks were simply not realistic in that timeframe
Kurb Stomper Actually, it’s always been a $200 tax stamp, it was originally intended to prevent people from being able to afford it, but the price never went up soooooooooo, Filling out my form 1 next month
What?
Hopefully the alphabet boys dont shoot the stuffed dog filled with tannerite......
This needs more likes... Lol
This is actually the funniest thing I've seen in a while....
Ruby Ridge bites back .
After the World Economic Forum and fake president said:
BITE BACK BETTER
It isn't really a suppressor till the wholes are drilled. That is my understanding.
i am only here for the WHITE BOARD OF KNOWLEDGE
WHITE BOARD OF KNOWLEDGE!! Will the slutty dolls ever get out of quarentine?
Best to get a second opinion on The White Board of Legal Advice !
@@rohawaha green screen of legal advice. Can't get them mixed up.
Weird... I found this in the constitution. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Cough Cough. Maglight, small block chevy freeze plugs. Plug The on off switch.. Im not an Attorney. I am A Hill billy
What do you do with the end plates?
Hahahhaa! Funny effer!
Basically, you are saying.
Buy American flashlights?
@@claytonatkinson865 need 2 of the lights. Strip. Down. Use battery end caps at both ends. Not very hard. BUT it Does require some drill and tapping..
bansheemania got it. I appreciate ya bubba ;) that’s one of them things that you kick yourself for not figuring out on your own haha
I saw of some guy in Cali get one of these. It actually worked (as an oil filter 😉). Was cool to see them deliver it to Cali.
Let's get this outta the way, we shouldn't be discussing "legalities/legal advice" for things we have a RIGHT to purchase and own!! regulating suppressors or ANY Other thing involving our right to arms, is infringement...... which makes them LEGAL!
Can't wait to see your testing of the suppressors.
I was thinking the same with those Chinese “solvent traps” lol
If I would ever try one I'd try and find a thin steel tube slightly bigger to make sure itll keep from failing.
My first view or your channel. I'm not going to sleep tonight. I love your patriotism! I agree with u on a lot of points. People need to hear more of this everyday
At first i thought id disagree with the presenter's position and argument. However, i can find no logical errors and the information presented is well thought out, factual, and logical. I believe i will subscribe. Thank u sir for your time, nicely said . Salute
There are devices that are classified as suppressors that do not screw on, they are quick attach/ detach. If you want to buy one of these, buy one for a 30 caliber and you can also use it on a 22 caliber gun, or any gun that is 30 caliber or less. This will save you some money.
Why is the government against suppressors. I dont see why they would want to regulate it. But they love infringing.
They fear their tyranny will catch up to them and they don't want you to do it quietly
Money
In the original draft of the NFA handguns were listed. There was push back on that and they feared it would not pass so they substituted silencers. $200 in 1934 USD is about $5000 2020 USD.
You missed the cone baffles in the OSOK picture.
I ordered 2 solvent traps with the honest INTENT to use them as solvent traps. a couple of months ago from China. And we all know how long it takes to get stuff from China and this was before the covid scare. Anyways I tracked them with the provided tracking number and they sit in new York customs for over 2 weeks and then just dissapeared I never got them or a letter from customs.
I DO have the intent to turn mine into suppressors, legally, and received two of them, different colors, just fine. The third one, another different color, was stopped before it ever left China, and my money refunded. Not sure as to why, but I think it was because of the fake plandemic.
So do I have to register a pillow ? That has been used for years as a silencer!!
Make sure that the monocure is made of steel or titanium, aluminum burns through or deforms.
IANAL, but if an arms company is selling a tube with end caps, one of which having the standard threading for a suppressor, then they are effectively selling you a silencer without a baffle stack. The tube gets the serial number, so that's the silencer. So if you want some real fun, you can cut a bunch of tubes from an appropriate sized pipe and get them serialized on the Form-1 and have a bunch of silencers that don't attach to anything. Once you get the tax stamps, you can then finish them or not as you see fit.
Love the use of "brake" and not "break" haha
I will go ahead and NOT poke the bear. Reminds me of the guy who made the DIASs in like the late 80s-90s and said "how are those guys gonna know if I made them before 86? They cant prove it!" They proved it.
How did they prove it?
@@claytonatkinson865
They toss your ass in Club Fed and say "Prove you didn't."
Attempt to fight a tyrannical government alone, and you will lose. Every time.
@@claytonatkinson865 there was a window to register any that you already had. After that, all unregistered ones were considered post-samples. Gotta be an SOT to have those
I didn't hear any BAD legal advice in the last video or this one.
grumpybill then you weren't listening. All legal advice is bad unless it comes from a lawyer you're paying to give it to you. But this guy is an idiot.
IKR, the examples he gives about getting cocaine in the mail just make it so easy to understand! smh
@@thestonethatthebuilderrefu5231 all lawyers practice law. I'd take advice from this guy before someone impersonating a professional.
I was thinking that when you mentioned they give you the option of filing a form 1 to get it.. that just proved intent and they would definitely try to charge you then because you just proved their case for them.
Technically you could sue the agency that unlawfully seized your property, in federal court.
Having spent time in Club Fed for making silencers and machine guns back in the 80's, I know a thing or two about them. First is they should be legal. I say this because only Hollywood can make a weapon truly silent. There are three things that make noise when you pull the trigger. The expanding gas, which is the only part which a silencer works on. Just as your car still makes noise with a muffler, you will not cancel all the noise from the expanding gas. If you are lucky you will remove 1/4 to 1/3 of this noise. The second item making noise is the projectile breaking the sound barrier. The speed of sound is around 1100 ft/sec. A 45 ACP at 240 grains travels at 940 ft/sec. I'm not sure of the 22 short. So you have a sonic boom to deal with. The third noise maker is the action of the weapon. So you need to make it a single shot.
Subsonic ammo is made for that purpose. I have it in 9mm, 308 and 5.56.
What adaptor can you buy at Wallmart (or for that matter any other common store) that has a 1/2"-28 thread?
1/2"-13 and 1/2"-20 are the common 1/2" coarse and fine thread, 1/2-28 is an oddball superfine thread that I don't know of anything that uses it besides
www.walmart.com/ip/GZYF-1-2-28-to-3-4-16-Threaded-Adapter-Black-Stainless-Steel-Straight-Automotive-Oil-Filter/728896951
@@CRSFirearms Yea, but not available in store...
Keep in mind, even if you intend to manufacture a suppressor, it is unlawful to possess the parts before you have an approved Form 1.
How do you prove intent?
You could still fill out the form 1 because you could be buying it to make it a legal suppressor. You're buying a solvent trap. It's not a suppressor until you drill that hole
Any update on this? are oil filter solvent traps still legal?
I had a muzzel device go to secondary customs .but it was quickly released
I'd like to point out that crossing state lines without an approved form 23 for a silender is NOT a crime. This is only required for SBR's, SBS'S, MG's, and DD'S. AOW's and suppressors are exempt of this requirement. Otherwise, everything you said I found very interesting. Didn't even think about having to pick it up in a state where they're illegal - that's obviously sticky.
Applying for any kind NFA item with the ATF is just the bringing the man into your life.
This man is dancing on the gray line, living on the edge!
Dude I just give you a hundred bucks for legal advise. Wait a minute so your not really a lawyer? Lol just busting ur balls!
In the past year I had bought these or similar fuel filters from China with no problem. They took about 1-2 months to receive them, but I did get them.
I thought those were motorcycle hand grips, they do look kinda cool.
Dude thats what i got mine for !!
We had a member of the Air Force arrested over ordering one of these. There were other things wrong, but this was the thing that got the alphabet boys looking at him in the first place, and these are the charges that are likely to stick.
KAFB -- March 19, 2020. Arrested for illegal importation of firearm and illegal possession of a silencer.
Are you fukn serious
@@mobius-1503 Yes, seriously, this actually happened in NM.
@Interested by youtube Yeah, see "There were other things wrong." None of those other things are what he's being charged with -- most of those things aren't illegal, they're just dumb.
The "Illegally importing a firearm" charge came out of the online fuel filter. That, and possession of a silencer are the only two charges being pressed against him currently. Since this is in civvy court, not .mil court, both of those _have_ to be related to the mailed "fuel filter." See this part:
"The complaint notes that possession of both the auto-sear attachment and the buttstock are illegal and that Justice received both items from Chinese vendors. No additional charges have been filed regarding those devices, but Justice also faces the possibility of additional charges in military court."
Anything found in the related search has to go through a court martial, which is worse for him.
Personally I don’t give a crap what our boys and girls have while in the military. What ever they deem is needed for survival, they should have. If they want a silencer, full auto, explosives. Then give it to them. If for some reason those that abuse their ability, then deal with them, not hamper everyone.
How can I order one of these solvent cleaning products??????do you have a link????
Nice try ATF
that's the same thing that they do with bongs over here in the aus what there doing with the silencer
the only thing that seems funky is that it looks like you have to fill the form 1 BEFORE buying the parts, because if you APPLY for a form 1 while having the parts, that shows the intent to manufacture a suppressor with the parts you have, that's where it seems illegal, since you aren't legally allowed to it with that intent yet
Using a suppressor with supersonic 223/5.56 ammo, reduce the dB level by about 25-30 points.. So, a 223/5.56 averages around 170 dB at the muzzle. Suppressed your talking about 140/145 decibels. Still very loud, but not as loud. Now, you can use sub-sonic ammo and get the sound down to almost nothing, but the bullet doesn't have the velocity to do the same amount of damage, and bullet energy drops off very fast. Not to mention if your running it through an AR, it's going to take some significant alterations to get the ammo to cycle.
1/2 vs 5/8, what is the difference?
I'm no gun expert by far. I know very little about ammunition however that being said. About a year ago I was over at a friend's house and somebody brought over these bullets that they said are muffled like a silencer. I found it very hard to believe that any bullet could ever be muffled like it just went through a silencer. And yes I'm aware it's not the bullet that makes the noise I'm aware of how the noise is made and what needs to be silenced. With that put aside, what I'm saying is is that there is a bullet out there that does seem to sound like it has a silencer built into it and I know that's impossible blah blah blah what I did find out about these bullets is that the amount of black powder that's in them or whatever you want to call it granules that are in that bullet is the reason it seems a lot quieter than it should be and when I went out and shot these rounds they sounded quieter than a 22 that's the only wait did I know there's bullets out there only because the amount of p gunpowder granules that are put into them it's a reduced size however they will still end your ass so who needs a muffler or a silencer or suppressor when you can just buy the ammunition that's going to be just as quiet as a suppressor would make it like I said I'm not educated on the how this all works or what that means as far as power goes but I know they exist so don't take me as I'm some know-it-all cuz I'm not if anybody wants to weigh in on this ball means put some education here but for those of you that don't know there's something out there that's perfectly legal that's quiet
That muzzle loader you mentioned was the silencerco maxim 50
You are not a monster , I like your content. Keep it up
I hope there's not an issue cuz I ordered one to make my similar UA-cam video.
You can usually buy solvent traps at "shows".
Could you use the monocore fuel filter to clean a 300 Blackout using 300 Whisper?
Man we miss you dude hope you see this mrs.csr
This was very informative! Thanks for posting.
Thank you for posting this and you correct its all about intent.
I'm not a lawyer , but when you asked if there is a law against that type of action I believe it falls under entrapment if they intend to have you grab the item from their state and break several federal laws. But I wouldn't be surprised if the ATF was pulling a stunt like this they're not necessarily known for having a professional attitude or method of enforcement
I received mine about 2 weeks ago
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If a Fart can pass through underwear & pants. How can that mask they want you to wear filter out a virus?
Dude your no monster your the only person i found thats for the ppl and not a government kiss ass u give us the info and let us make of it what we will thank you your vids are awesome
Dammit I was gonna get the Chinese ones and pay the tax and machine them into supressors since for some reason regular supressors are around 5, 6, 700 bucks and the $200 tax stamp. The other day I went to the range and my girl loved shooting my AR but had to walk out because of the loud noise even with hearing protection
Apply for the tax stamp before machining it further to attach to gun.. Seems to be the safest route.
Love it can’t wait for the next video you rock dude thank you LOL
That us company shipped a threaded on both ends tube with a bunch of baffle inserts that looked like endcaps
Just the adapter needs the serial number and is stamped. It was designed so you could use any size oil filter you wanted for whatever situation.
If you are a Diesel Fitter and have filters delivered to your home you could end up with a visit from the alphabet agencies, (it has happened all over the country)
Also this is the same manoeuvre used by US Customs at the behest of Apple when Apple owners try to import batteries, screens and cables to be able to repair their Iphone/Ipad only there they use the excuse of the items being counterfeit/pirated parts.
I’m just here for the free legal advice. 🤪
Seriously though, shouldn’t they be stopping real criminals. Most of these guys know modulators, suppressors or silencers whatever you want to call them don’t actually make guns super quiet, simply as loud as someone yelling or at least talking like a loud drunk person at a rav. It’s all just theatre for the sheep.
So are Super Colibri rounds but they are pretty weak and unless you pop someone in the skull at point blank they won’t do much. No free lunch in nature.
You should hear my 450ftlb .338 PCP air rifle.. 5 shot groups at 500y are 1 minute or better and the gun is half moa at 200 consistently.
With a 10in Monocore LDC (lead dust collector as we call them in the Air gun world lol) suppressors... its pushing a 180g lead slug at 1040fps at the muzzle.
The gun is extremely quiet like you hear hammer hitting the valve and thats it.. very very little muzzle report.
I have taken pigs in the 150lb range out to 400y with that gun and 180g pure lead sptizer HPs that open up to around .60 and near pass thru at 400y. I have taken two deer in the last 2 weeks with it. One at 120y and one at 200y. One was DRT and the other ran about 30 feet. Full pass thru on one and on the second the slug punched thru the shoulder but was under the hide on the exit side so I recovered the projectile, this being a boat tail 180g notched HP (think of a uncoated Berger Hybrid) expansion was .64. You should have seen the near fist size hole in the lungs the projectile left and the totally destroyed exit side shoulder. The energy transfer is insane with those slugs. Firearms don't create that bad of tissue trauma the wound channel 90% of what a mag center fire rifle wound channel looks like. There's more cavitation damage from powder burners but as far as wound channel and flesh/organ destruction the high powered airguns aren't that far off.
I believe the energy dump isn't all that different as the big slug dumps 100% of its energy in the deer and the powder burners take a large amount out the exit side.
I have pics of face book of that carcass and I assure you if you don't know better you would assume a mag .30 cal shooting a premium hunting bullet is what it was shot with. And you should have heard the impact. That 180g .338 hitting sounds like a sledge hammer hitting a tree when it hit... I have a 1300ftlb 50cal shooting 700g slugs with are just a gaping soft lead HP that i have shot big hogs with... you have never seen blood fountains until you have seen a double lung pass thru on a 400lb hog with that cannon. The .50 MR hollow point 700 grainers are a stunningly high performance round.
So if I went out and stole mail from someone else would that be considered a federal offense?
are flash hiders and muzzle breaks a nfa item
No. My rifle came with a standard muzzle brake, and I didn't have to do anything special to have it outside of ordering it through a local gun shop
Thanks for educating,"We The People".
kind off topic but what if the drugs where delivered and left on the door step and legit got stolen? would they think the guy had them delivered to another house and takes them to his real house or would they treat him as a thief? or would it be the other way round and think he is a thief when in fact he is the guy that order the drugs and had them deliver to another house?
Are there any qd systems for a monocore filter solvent trap? I clean my guns alot and it is a pain to take off the muzzle brake to thread a solvent trap on.
I prefer you using the “Old Hickory” knife as a pointer. Way cooler and a more practical knife.
The part of the letter which encourages you to perform acts that might be illegal should be examined by a lawyer to determine if entrapment attaches. In layman's terms, entrapment is when the police or government cause you to do something illegal that you would not ordinarily do.
Hey, kid! I like your new tat. I ordered a couple of those non-silencers because I need a break from this lockdown and I want to see the ATF boys rappel down from my ceilings. I hope they call ahead so I can film it. I just need to figure out how to get it over to my big screen TV. Maybe I should get a YoubTube channel and post the video so my friends and enemies can watch it. Then I could remind everyone that they need to eat more meat ... and spuds. And none of that damn Aussie beef they've started importing. I damn near have to pay the packing plant to take my cattle now. I'm talking to you, too, kid! Those skinny-ass arms practically scream vegetarian ... or effing vegan ... or turkey ham eater. You need real meat ... BEEF!!!
Anyway, I'll let you know how things work out with the ATF. Do you think it would help if an anonymous source reported that I'm expecting a suspicious package? Is there any place where I can also get one of those bump stocks thingies? Would that increase my odds for getting raided? I'm losing my ass on these cattle, so it would be great if I could live off of the government's tit for awhile since China says that this CCP virus is actually from the US Army. I sure wish I could claim to be an illegal alien so I could get free shit. I mean, I've been supporting the government bureaucracy for all my life, it's about time I got something back. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Take care and keep your barrel clean.
Bo Leggs.
lol that was the weirdest right leaning nonsense ive seen in a long time. who doesnt want beef? if you cant sell your stock, that's your problem. isnt that capitalism? dont you like capitalism?
why dont you investigate why you cant sell your beef, or sell it cheaper to people that will appreciate your beef. i mean there's always options when beef is concerned.
isnt there a social media option for selling meats to people? if not make one and become a millionaire, and pay me in beef lol. also do you have to pay the people that take care of your stock? or are you able to offer room & board situations? not sure how that works exactly, farms have a really bad history of enslavement so yeah...
Stream it live!
....I have no idea what I've just read. Thats enough UA-cam for now.
There's a modified CVA inline muzzleloader in some random gun store that has what appears to maybe be a solvent trap on the end of the barrel. I asked the man behind the counter if it was what it looked like and he confirmed it. Said I could walk out the door that day with it
Can you please send me a link for the cleaning products??????
Are monocore solvent traps illegal now ?
Oh nice this is going to be a bomb vid. Thanks
Very educational keep up the good work
If that was the case mini aluminium bat w insulation in and a few drill holes makes a very good supressor
Got a paper today from U.S. Customs and Border Protection. It was seized at the end of December.
So is there a way to write them back and say, “You took my filter I need for my dirt bike, give it back.”?
I got one of those mails when my weed seeds got seized years ago... I just ordered more.
I believe I was told someone sells an oilfilter adapter that you go thru the ins and outs to "legally" use it as a silencer so if I'm not miss remembering surely it would be on the adapter
Just like a lower that doesn't classify as as a firearm because it's not complete, a solvent trap or a fuel filter is not a supressor. 80% is 80%
We are no longer the land of the free... just the land of the law abiding..
This is what public service announcements are supposed to look like
Letter says you have 30 days to get a license to import. Is that the same as a form 1? Or a tax stamp? I must have missed something, I don’t see half the stuff you talked about in that letter. I think you are reading too much “in between the lines”. They say, “intercepted restricted items “ what exactly was in the box? You gave many examples, but what exactly? Seems to me a paralegal could wright a letter saying how the item doesn’t fit the definition and to release it. I like the follow up videos. Looking forward to part 3.
I'm not sure what it is you bought but you can definitely buy a solvent trap that directly screws on and filters as advertised out of the box.
The "muzzle brakes" that are moncore looking. Are those illegal by themselves? I just think they look cool and i don't plan to make a silencer from them.
What is a solvent trap and how would you use it for its intended purpose?
Trapping solvent
Great Video. Thank you for your contribution. 👍
Strange thing happened while watching your video on my phone. The location services (GPS) turned itself on. This setting I normally have turned off to save battery.
U keep it to real , love the way u bring it... keep it up . ESPECIALLY FOR THE DOG KILLERS
The next letter will be please submit a fine-payment which can be mailed as a money order or Moneygram to my office in Nigeria....
I got the same letter a long time ago
Its sad watching his videos with hine sight.
I live in Illinois never got that letter.
I live Peoria,IL, where did you buy the solvent trap from, just curious? I'm looking to buy one.
@@MrDave4464 Wish.com
@@Hobojet Ok Thanks I looked there a bit ago didn't see anything.
What books were you referring to in your 1st video a few days ago the one by col chinn from the library of Congress or another?
Its my understanding that you need to file your form 1 first before purchasing anything otherwise you could be nailed for intent to construct. Granted I think they'd still have to be able to prove that you intended to break the law. I'm no lawyer and probably wrong, but its something worth researching. Either way, either way I had a friend that bought one years back and got an ATF visit. All they wanted to see was that it wasn't finished as a silencer. He didn't, in fact he tossed it because it was crappy quality and very questionable. He didn't get in any trouble, but it was definitely a scare for him.
It's entrapment (but good luck proving that), and gives them an excuse to rummage through your belongings and your home, hoping to find something they can pin on you.
You are not an attorney, but you did wear a three piece suit one time. ( Am I correct? )
Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express?
Burt Gummerfan 😆 lofl
Nor do I play one on tv