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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • Learn how to build deck stairs for your Trex® deck. Get more information at: cur.lt/coh4j96mr and build the deck of your dreams.
    Key moments in this video:
    00:00 Intro
    1:00 Determining the Stringer Rise and Run
    7:00 Mark and Cut Stair Stringers
    13:22 Stair Header Install
    15:45 Stair Newel Post Layout
    18:52 Install Temporary Layout / Support Block
    22:34 Install Outside Stringers
    23:05 Placing the Concrete Pad Form
    28:41 Squaring and Securing the Concrete Pad Form
    33:22 Install Bottom Newel Posts
    38:07 Stringers to Header Connection
    39:50 Add Trex® Protect™ to Stringers
    40:50 Installing Treads and Risers
    43:03 Installing Stringer Fascia
    45:46 Recap
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  • @driveman6490
    @driveman6490 2 роки тому +121

    When I build elevated decks for customers, I don't include stairs. I build a slide at one end, and place a mini-trampoline at the other. So much easier than having to do math.

    • @jdspeaks8059
      @jdspeaks8059 2 роки тому +2

      Landing could be a little rough.

    • @bcbcfilm
      @bcbcfilm Рік тому +3

      @@tanyaturner7162 work smart not hard

    • @bobowens3687
      @bobowens3687 10 місяців тому

      I feal you brother.try googling my carpenter stair calculator on your phone.its a calculator thats easy to use and I do the math for stairs litteraly in seconds as opposed to spending half a day recutting stringers until there right.

    • @dustinmarquand5301
      @dustinmarquand5301 2 години тому

      Stairs are spendy anyway... agreed

  • @tylerwerrin41
    @tylerwerrin41 4 місяці тому +2

    fantastic video, so detailed and in depth. couldn't have built my trex deck without it! great job you guys!

  • @yatusabe6075
    @yatusabe6075 Рік тому +2

    I really enjoyed this project. Made it simple and explained the meaning for all the numbers. Great job both of you!

  • @johnferreira7312
    @johnferreira7312 Рік тому +11

    I am a carpenter myself I see the job absolutely very clear explanation and be so easy for anyone thank you for the video excellent

  • @jasondaniels6642
    @jasondaniels6642 9 місяців тому

    Very clear and concise. Loved it

  • @paulmonk7820
    @paulmonk7820 4 місяці тому +10

    Think it would look better if the treads overlap the fascia. 😊

    • @edgrills6650
      @edgrills6650 3 місяці тому

      agreed but the ends of the treads would ugly because of the profile. The edge of the facia is not the prettiest either is it?

    • @christigaither9123
      @christigaither9123 3 місяці тому +4

      Picture frame the tread and you wouldn't have the ugly ends of the deck boards showing and it looks so much better

  • @alfredovillegas1646
    @alfredovillegas1646 Рік тому +1

    Hi watching this full video I learned more, Thank you for teaching us brothers!

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому +1

      We are incredibly grateful that you took the time to leave us this review. Our company puts customer satisfaction as top priority, and we are committed to our customers. Feedback like this helps us to continue providing these videos to assist you further. It’s customers like you who make our job wonderful.

    • @MiskimVeniceJohnson
      @MiskimVeniceJohnson Рік тому

      And sisters.
      At least I know what is correct and what is not allowed when I do my self inspection on other work.
      Thank you 😊😊😊🙏

  • @tom73055
    @tom73055 Рік тому +7

    I don’t like your idea for the facia on the stairs sides . I think it would look better if you had cut them to be under the run or treads . Did you treat the bottom of the posts for the railings? Thanks for the video.

  • @vincelawrence6909
    @vincelawrence6909 Рік тому

    Good job folks

  • @wallacehannah5883
    @wallacehannah5883 Рік тому +5

    A good rule of thumb is to always go beyond what code requires...I never go above 7-3/8 for a step rise

  • @rayduncan348
    @rayduncan348 Рік тому +17

    When adding that bottom rim-board it looks like that would add 1 1/2 to the run on the bottom step. I think you would need to cut the bottom run on the stringer an 1 1/2 shorter to allow for that.

    • @scott_1030
      @scott_1030 Рік тому +2

      I was just thinking the same. I’m surprised that wasn’t mentioned in the video.

    • @mikenorris4966
      @mikenorris4966 Рік тому +1

      That is correct

    • @matthewlysne
      @matthewlysne Рік тому +3

      thank you for this comment. I kept trying to figure that out, and thought I was going mad.

    • @kenj1862
      @kenj1862 2 місяці тому

      Good point, I can finally see that 1 1/2 piece when she was tracing for the facia at 29:37

    • @ronhewett8164
      @ronhewett8164 Місяць тому

      Great add here folks. I was working to make sense of the added 1 1/2 inch rim board as well. Thanks for confirming.

  • @Jimmy_Cavallo
    @Jimmy_Cavallo 6 місяців тому

    💥 You can ALWAYS trust a carpenter that uses Makita tools…!! 🌟 Excellent… !!

  • @teeks8951
    @teeks8951 Рік тому +3

    I love Trex !!!
    I did steps on a deck that were curved.
    We went to the Trex factory and took a class on how to heat and bend them. Easy peasey!
    We made a template and bent them in our shop
    Next time, I'm going to do it right on the job, that's how easy it was
    Great product, great customer service, great results!
    * Of course you are going to pay through the nose to have this. Trex is fucking expensive!

    • @thenickoftime5132
      @thenickoftime5132 Рік тому

      Hey
      Where do they offer courses on Trex products? I would love to learn more if I could. I enjoy working with their products as well. Thanks

  • @craigjones4810
    @craigjones4810 8 днів тому

    She could build a deck for me anytime!

  • @ranmangolf
    @ranmangolf 9 місяців тому +2

    When you attached the riser 2x board on the bottom of the stringer, it seems that board would have made the run longer. Did you cut off some of the run on the stringer to compensate for the extra distance?

    • @BobCole1
      @BobCole1 8 місяців тому +2

      I don't see where they mentioned it, but it appears that they did shorten the bottom run to compensate for the rim board (actual 1.5"x6.5") that they put across the front of the stringers at about 31:00. Are we right about that?

  • @diyhometheaterguy
    @diyhometheaterguy Рік тому

    Great set of videos. I wish you finished them though with how to put the siding back on the house and tie it in with the new deck. How do you do that when you have vynil Siding??

    • @paulcote3883
      @paulcote3883 Рік тому

      hire a carpenter

    • @Heyimhere732
      @Heyimhere732 Місяць тому

      add j channel and window sill trim along the bottom

  • @tobinkern5389
    @tobinkern5389 9 місяців тому

    Best way to do the siding is to use a router bit with a guide. Flush and perfect every time

  • @kyletrump8025
    @kyletrump8025 Рік тому +1

    Those are some sweet gloves

  • @user-ly4te5fi7h
    @user-ly4te5fi7h 11 місяців тому

    These videos are very helpful. I'm wondering what the white material is on the rim joists you are using for spacers behind the facia.
    Thanks

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  11 місяців тому

      We have no specific brands to recommend for the spacers, but the following are examples of brands of waterproof membranes (Note: metal furring strips do not need to be wrapped).
      VaproShield
      Benjamin Obdyke Roof & Wall Products (HydroFlash can be used around windows and doors)
      Dorken
      These can be found at Lowes, Home Depot, Local lumber yard or hardware store. - Trex Customer Care

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  11 місяців тому

      And thank you for your feedback on the videos! We really appreciate it - Trex Customer Care

  • @ericturner2477
    @ericturner2477 24 дні тому +1

    Doesn't the rim board end up making the bottom tread 1.5" longer than the rest?

    • @tomt5176
      @tomt5176 7 днів тому +1

      Hey, you’re right. I was wondering the same thing. My stringers definitely will be shortened on the bottom step by the thickness of the toe kick so the treads fit properly. Apparently that step was left out of the video.

  • @ltmaddog773
    @ltmaddog773 Рік тому +2

    Just to make sure that I didnt miss, other than the straps, do the stringers have any other connection to the header?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Hi Matt. Thank you so much for reaching out to Trex. This video illustrates one recommended method for installing Trex Fascia, described in our Installation Guide. To explore our second installation recommendation, please visit our Literature: Resource Center to reference our 2022 Decking Installation Guide. Additionally, we do have a great Where to Buy Tool on our website, www.trex.com/find-trex/ This tool will assist with locating Local Dealers & Retailers in your area to inquire with regarding product availability and special order lead times.
      One inch nose past the stringer. Then when the Fascia is installed you will have a nosing of less than ¾”.
      Lastly, the straps are the only connection to the deck frame. The outside stringers did attach to the post at the bottom of the stair.
      If you do require further assistance, please let us know. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. We are available Monday - Friday 8am-5pm EST Thank you for choosing Trex. Kind Regards. -Trex Customer Care 800-289-8739 | customercare@trex.com

  • @Brian-ho1td
    @Brian-ho1td Рік тому

    Should the stringers have the shims before installing the fascia boards?
    Thanks for the video

    • @gratefulketo2211
      @gratefulketo2211 Рік тому

      My understanding is that the Treads overhang the fascia board and so you do not need the shims as nothing will need to drain behind them.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому +1

      There are 2 methods to install fascia. You won't need to utilize spacers behind the fascia board if you plan to overhang the decking perpendicularly. If the end of your deck board will sit flush on the back of the fascia, spacers will need to be installed. Please view our installation guidelines at www.trex.com/customer-support/trex-owners/downloads/ or give us a call at 800.289.8739 for additional details. Thanks!

  • @lukehershey6995
    @lukehershey6995 Місяць тому

    That is a bit overkill for stairs with 7 stringers. That could probably hold thousands of lbs of weight for such a short run.
    That said, very good video. Super informative.

  • @vincelawrence6909
    @vincelawrence6909 Рік тому

    can i do one step and one side rail, bottom step, left side going up, to save money? a patch up job ..

  • @Hedgehodge-
    @Hedgehodge- Рік тому

    Was that a 2x for the header with a 4x4. Won't a 5" screw be poking out the back 0.5"

  • @billhowe8292
    @billhowe8292 Рік тому

    Im trying to find specific information on the screw sizes used on this project? Help please?

  • @anon82037
    @anon82037 2 роки тому +1

    The last step doesn't have an overhang. Would that be a code issue? Also how did you rip cut the pvc trim?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Sam, in the municipality where this deck was built, no, there was not a code issue regarding the top riser. It may or may not be a code issue in your municipality. If it is not allowed then one can notch the fascia in the area above the top riser and hold your first deck board out to the desired tread overhang, only the width of the top riser, and rip down the remainder of the first board by the width of the tread overhang. As always, be sure to check with your local municipalities’ building department before construction begins.
      The trim is also Trex composite, we ripped it down using a circular saw with the rip fence that comes with the saw.
      If you have any additional questions, feel free to give us a call. 1-800-289-8739. Thank you, Trex Customer Care Team

  • @miggythepiggy141
    @miggythepiggy141 26 днів тому

    What is the product used to seal up the cut ends of the stringers?

  • @Justinegallows
    @Justinegallows Рік тому +1

    It looks like you didn't leave a Gap between the riser and deck boards for draining and contraction

  • @ScaryAF_Entertainment
    @ScaryAF_Entertainment Рік тому

    Does Trex make the risers?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Hello. Thank you for reaching out to Trex and your interest in our products. We do manufacture Fascia. Fascia can be installed as a riser. Please reference this link for more information, www.trex.com/products/decking/fascia/ Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you for choosing Trex. 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com

  • @zack98953
    @zack98953 Рік тому

    How do you recommend installing the hand railing? I can’t seem to find a video for it.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Good morning! Check out ua-cam.com/video/2c2Q-WTZzEk/v-deo.html Thank you, happy building!

  • @rusty728
    @rusty728 2 роки тому +3

    So how did you make holes for the screws in the facia and then you had some matching plugs….where did the plugs come from and how did you install them ?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      There are a few recommended plug-style fasteners for our fascia on the Trex Recommended Fastener List. Please visit images.trex.com/is/content/trexcompany/trex-recommended-fasteners-decking-fascia-2021pdfpdf#_ga=2.145862708.1675930266.1664973169-314579747.1642782356&_gac=1.219659755.1663338242.Cj0KCQjwvZCZBhCiARIsAPXbajt6wZU9OzG1DTb1mIS08N2XWE3c7dw1dLmADnxYhd021vR1rE7gFMkaAv0qEALw_wcB The plug system include plugs and a countersinking tool to set the screw at the correct depth. The plugs are manufactured by the manufacturer of the screw system using our decking and/or fascia material. Feel free to reach out to us if you have any other questions. Happy building! - Trex Customer Care Team

  • @rjjohnson4280
    @rjjohnson4280 4 місяці тому

    There’s gotta be a better way for the stair facia install. You can see the stair tread overhang (which not bad) but there’s also a triangular hole from the add on piece… enclosed stringers with treads enclosed much more neat

  • @dailodai9586
    @dailodai9586 Місяць тому

    what happens to bottom thread when you add the rim board?. wouldnt that add an additional 1.5 inch to the run on the bottom

  • @bakemore32
    @bakemore32 Рік тому +3

    It would look better if the stair treads extended over the fascia attached to the outer stringers.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Hi, Either option can be done. Most often people try to cover the ends of these boards so the scallops on the bottom are not visible. This is completely up to the home owners discretion though. You can reach out to us if you would like further details at 1-800-289-8739 Trex Customer Care.

    • @ltmaddog773
      @ltmaddog773 Рік тому +2

      @@TheTrexCo I disagree. I've never seen an end fascia done this way. It looks odd and any visible scallop looks less weird than this. Great video non the less. But once they decided to not overlap the rim joist (ie have fascia come up to even with deck boards), they were kind of bought into this design (unless they didnt even up the outside stringer with the rim). For anyone looking for 1/2" white fascia from trex, good luck. The entire video series references it in the design but they dont sell it. Only found one option available at large retailer.

  • @trumpetmaris
    @trumpetmaris 5 місяців тому

    Nice explanation of how to calculate your rise and run. Having built a few of these I thought it was really strange to not pour the concrete slab first and then drop the stairs on top of it with a ledger on the nose. Didn't like the fact that your newel post is in the ground without much protection. Also, once you cut the side of your fascia board, it doesn't really look pretty and it's not protected from the elements as when it has the cladding on it. I prefer to keep the side of the fascia board intact and just run it diagonal to the stairs in a nice straight line. If you really want to put the vashboard cut to the form of the stairs, it would be better to have your treads overhang and cover that ugly Edge which is facing up into the elements.

    • @nickhollerauer4295
      @nickhollerauer4295 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm building stairs and I thought that pouring the concrete with the stairs in was really weird too. I'm going to basically build everything up the same way they did, remove the stairs, pour concrete, and then carefully reinstall the stairs while its all still wet and drop in post anchors with 4x4 pieces clamped on the outside of the stringers to guide me on location. Let it all dry, put in post bases, and then tie it all together. I'd drop posts in concrete but code doesn't allow for it here. Also, code here says the stringers must rest on a 12" deep footing, not just the posts. So a bit different, but some good ideas here. Definitely like using the 2x2 to hold everything up and mark locations, but since I've only got 3 stringers, I made them into an assembly to make it easier to handle and install, no squaring necessary once put together. And yeah, your idea about overhanging the treads over the fascia is way, way better.

  • @toddavis8603
    @toddavis8603 Рік тому +1

    Great instruction team, but seven stringers is overkill------

  • @sparkyobrian6417
    @sparkyobrian6417 9 місяців тому

    nice but, that open cut face of the trex stringer covers looks like crapola, use a 45dec bull nose edge, which is labor intensive or just use hardie board and paint it to match.

  • @3sixtynow850
    @3sixtynow850 Рік тому +2

    Did you cut 1 1/2" off of the front of the risers to account for the front rim board?

  • @henryroesemann2235
    @henryroesemann2235 11 місяців тому

    how deep should the newel (stair posts) be in the ground? My county code for decks does not say anything about rail posts in the ground.

    • @henryroesemann2235
      @henryroesemann2235 11 місяців тому

      Yea, so I would still like to know how deep you dug those post holes in the ground?

  • @Dydeeo
    @Dydeeo 9 місяців тому

    The trex installation guide says when using fasteners do not go through the board's cap...do not shoot through the shell. In the video, it shows screws for the stair treads screwed in past the shell making the top of the screw head flush with the board thus penetrating the shell. Isn't this a bad practice? Thanks

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  9 місяців тому

      Hello! Thank you for your question, and happy to be of assistance. You can use screws or hidden fasteners to install out boards. I will add a link below with such information. When using the hidden fasteners you have to have a grooved edge bored. In the video for the stairs, they are using a square edge boards to give it that finished look. When doing this, they are using the screws we recommend. As long as you use the recommended screws and or fasteners and follow our installation guide you will be fine!
      online.flippingbook.com/view/171224276/26/

  • @macaronitire4152
    @macaronitire4152 2 роки тому +3

    How do you hide all the cut edges on the stringer fascia or treads once they've been cut?

    • @teeks8951
      @teeks8951 Рік тому

      All cut edges get routered.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Thanks for the feedback and thank you for choosing Trex!

    • @macaronitire4152
      @macaronitire4152 Рік тому +2

      @@teeks8951 that doesn't change the fact that they are different colors. Routered edges will still be brown, not white.

    • @macaronitire4152
      @macaronitire4152 Рік тому

      @@TheTrexCo that didn't answer my question.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Hello. Thank you so much for reaching out to Trex. This is a great question, one we do receive often. To hide the cut edges of the Fascia installed to the stringer, you may paint or stain the exposed edges with any paint or stain that is exterior grade and will adhere well to wood. To hide the deck board tread edging, if Fascia is not covering the material, you can paint or stain these edges as well. It is important to note, we do not recommend painting or staining the shell-coating of the material. Additionally, fabricating a picture frame on each stair tread with a square edge board is an option as well. This fabrication will require additional framing, however, it is a great option and spices up the design. If you have any additional questions or concerns regarding this matter or any matter I have suggested, please reach out to directly. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. We look forward to serving you. Kind Regards. -Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 : customercare@trex.com

  • @fire304
    @fire304 4 місяці тому

    So how do you hang the two stringers one in from the edge? The hanging 4*4 posts are directly in line with them so the straps won't work there.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  4 місяці тому

      Hi there! Thank you for reaching out. We would love to speak with you more about your inquiry. If you would like to give us a call at 1-800-289-8739 we would be happy to assist. ~ Trex Customer Care Team

  • @glendavis1266
    @glendavis1266 Рік тому +2

    Why not install the fascia on the stringers first and then install the risers and step boards so they hid the edge of the fascia showing?

    • @tom73055
      @tom73055 Рік тому

      My exact idea . It would look more professional our way

  • @philipwang4600
    @philipwang4600 8 місяців тому

    How deep are the two holes for the two posts of the landing? Do they have to be below the frost line?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  8 місяців тому

      For those holes there is not a specific guideline. We dug them approximately 1’ deep and that covered what was necessary for this area. Being that the holes are not supporting the deck itself they don’t have a detail for them. We would recommend going below frost line to avoid any heaving of the footing and possibly raising the stairway.

  • @chrism9976
    @chrism9976 Місяць тому

    14:58 Those are big ass ants!

  • @craignoelte3923
    @craignoelte3923 День тому

    So about the handrails?

  • @jonepasqueezy1547
    @jonepasqueezy1547 Рік тому

    where do learn how to build trex decking I am interested

  • @Dydeeo
    @Dydeeo Рік тому

    Is there another option instead of fascia for covering the vertical part of the riser? Fascia would be pretty expensive for a large number of risers. Couldn't square trex enhance boards be used with one at 5.4 inches and another piece ripped to cover the remainder?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому +1

      Hi there, great question! If you do not want to use our fascia for stair risers, you can also use our deck boards as they are 5.5" in width. We hope this helps and please give us a call at 800-289-8739 if you have any additional questions. Have a great day! -Trex Customer Care

    • @samanderson7745
      @samanderson7745 Рік тому +1

      You could use some lumber that is treated/painted to whatever color you want as lumber is much cheaper than composites, it won't increase the risk of slivers as you don't walk on risers. However, the easiest and most cost effective option would be to leave it open. Depending on the height of the stairs some people and animals get a bit spooked though if it gets too high.

    • @paulcote3883
      @paulcote3883 Рік тому

      yes

    • @pamelakarlins6130
      @pamelakarlins6130 Рік тому

      @@samanderson7745 Leaving an opening of greater than 4 inches is not code in my area. Also, it just looks better to close the riser.

    • @samanderson7745
      @samanderson7745 Рік тому

      @@pamelakarlins6130 Where I live you are allowed to leave open risers if it is under 36 inches in total height, I always find it fun to see different codes in different areas, haha! I agree though, I think a closed riser looks 100% better than open.

  • @carolynseyfried4190
    @carolynseyfried4190 Рік тому +4

    It seems like it would be difficult to pour the concrete with the stringers in the way

    • @kelik1989
      @kelik1989 Рік тому

      Why?

    • @jayjones3644
      @jayjones3644 8 місяців тому

      I had the same thought but I think they plan to unscrew and remove the stair assembly so that the pad can be screeded properly.

    • @BobCole1
      @BobCole1 7 місяців тому

      @@jayjones3644 They don't mention unscrewing everything, so I doubt that they will do that. I wonder the same thing. Why didn't they pour the pad as soon as they secured the post to the pairs of stringers on each side, and before adding all the stringers in the middle?

    • @jayjones3644
      @jayjones3644 7 місяців тому +1

      @@BobCole1 I based my deck stair landing on this video. I also searched for a video where they gave more info on the concrete pour but didn't find one. I attached all stringers and a rim board at the bottom of the stringers. After attaching the posts inside of the bottom stair assembly, I poured a couple bags of concrete into the post holes to lock them in. Then removed the stringers and stair rim board to fill the rest of the void where the pad is with only the posts sticking up out of it. It made screeding the concrete pad a lot simpler than if the stringers were in the way. I got an edge all the way around it so it looks beautiful. It felt like it took a lot of time but I have a lot of patience and I'm really glad that I took the time to do it. I'm really happy with how it looks. This was also my first staircase and concrete pad pour so any future projects should go faster due to the lessons learned with this one.

  • @petersabatini7817
    @petersabatini7817 2 роки тому

    I don’t know were you guys live if you get frost. But barring those post in concrete won’t last

    • @jenniferowens7640
      @jenniferowens7640 Рік тому

      What’s the way to adapt this to frost-heave prone issues? Clearly this doesn’t work resting on floating concrete pad either, that will heave.

  • @cjddesignsllc5868
    @cjddesignsllc5868 Рік тому

    How tall from the decking should the bottom post be?

  • @glendavis1266
    @glendavis1266 Рік тому

    I don’t remember you mentioning the wide of the stairs?

  • @waynekinney0511
    @waynekinney0511 11 місяців тому

    Help me understand how the bottom to buy rim board on the steps doesn’t make the last bottom stair deeper. How does it stay at 10 inches?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  11 місяців тому

      Hello. Thank you for reaching out to Trex and your interest in our products. Depending on how the stairs are planned, they may have to be adjusted to accommodate the rim board at the bottom of the stairs. If the rim board is installed on the outside ends of the stair stringers, then adjust the run to be shorter by 1-1/2”. Then when the rim board is installed it will stay at the desired depth. If the rim board is put in between the stringers then no adjustment is needed. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Kind Regards. - Trex Customer Care

  • @joshelwood3541
    @joshelwood3541 Рік тому +1

    OK so where do I go to learn how to make the stair fascia not look like a 3 year old did it

  • @stevenbuck5948
    @stevenbuck5948 4 місяці тому +2

    Pour the slab first omg

  • @jromem7313
    @jromem7313 Рік тому +2

    Thats the most stringers I've ever seen on a stair that small. Composite decks are very expensive and the amount of undercarriage lumber it needs to support its weakness only adds even more cost. Trek and other composite companies still haven't figured out how to finish the stair part of it.

    • @baba-sm1fm
      @baba-sm1fm Рік тому

      I think is becuse Trex is so flimsy it requires joists to be no wider than 9 " on center. It will warp and sink under your feet if the stringers are spaced any wider. If you noticed they did not mention this requirement, which is shameful.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the feedback. At timestamp 20:25, the installers discuss the required stair stringer based upon the boards that are being installed. When installing Trex Enhance decking on a stair application, the maximum stringer span is 9" on center. When installing Select or Transcend decking on a stair application, the maximum stair stringer span is 12" on center. Enhance requires additional support based on the board's profile as load capacity ratings differ on stair installations versus a perpendicular installation. I hope this information is helpful. Please give us a call at 800.289.8739 if you have additional questions. - Trex Customer Care Team

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 Рік тому

      It sucks but nobody with any money is building with wood decking anymore. The upkeep is just hideous.

  • @glendavis1266
    @glendavis1266 Рік тому +1

    I do not know why the fascia was not installed first on the stair sides and then let the treads and risers lop over the reveal of the side fascia. It would appear a lot cleaner in my opinion.

    • @winnlunt5006
      @winnlunt5006 Рік тому

      And always install the rise first. You could drive a car through that gap where their rise meets their tread

    • @matthewlysne
      @matthewlysne Рік тому +1

      I think it's to cover the otherwise exposed scalloping on the Enhance boards.

  • @wallacehannah5883
    @wallacehannah5883 Рік тому

    The deck boards being used as treads should be biscuit jointed in order to not be faced screwed.

  • @CCB249
    @CCB249 2 роки тому +3

    Shouldn't your concrete pad be an inch lower in the front for water runoff from rain or snow? I would do that no matter where I lived.

  • @86309
    @86309 Місяць тому

    what was used for the fascia spacers?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Місяць тому

      Hello 86309,
      I hope this message finds you well. Please refer to page 16 in our Decking Installation Guide for installing spacers. Here is a link: online.flippingbook.com/view/63974767/16/
      Install 3/16" to 1/4" thick x minimum 1" wide exterior
      grade spacers (these should be cut the same length
      as the rim joist), and spaced 9" on center. Install fascia
      screws as stated below at spacer locations (ensure that
      spacer screw does not interfere with fascia screw).
      TIP: Prior to installing spacers, paint ends black so as these
      are not as visible (especially when using contrasting colors).
      Please let us know if we may be of any further assistance.
      Thank you,
      Trex Customer Care Team
      1-800-289-8739

  • @nickolasp6580
    @nickolasp6580 8 місяців тому

    When do you pour the concrete?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  8 місяців тому

      Hello. Thank you for reaching out with your question and your interest in Trex. In this case, we poured the concrete once we finished the stairway with decking, fascia and railing. If desired, the concrete could be poured before the decking and fascia were installed. This would be personal preference. You do want to make sure the concrete only goes to the bottom of the stair stringers and no higher. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Kind Regards, Trex Customer Care

  • @torodatruth
    @torodatruth 2 роки тому +1

    @18:52.... ohhh ok... i like it i like it...

  • @frozenrope2822
    @frozenrope2822 10 місяців тому

    Any concern, code-wise, with not having the 3/4-inch overhang on the very top step, which is [also] the deck surface?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  10 місяців тому

      Hello. Thank you for reaching out with this question. 3/4" overhang, past fascia and/or rim joist, will be the max allowed per national code and Trex Installation recommendations. If you have any further questions regarding this matter, please feel free to reach out direct. You can find our Installation Guide here, Resource/Literature Center: www.trex.com/customer-support/trex-owners/downloads/ Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Kind Regards, Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com

    • @frozenrope2822
      @frozenrope2822 10 місяців тому

      @@TheTrexCo thanks, but that didn’t exactly address my question. The installers in this video do not have overhang on the decking that matches the stair overhang (even though the deck surface functions as a step). Wondering if that’s okay to do or if it violates code. Thanks!

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  10 місяців тому

      The recommended measurement of 3/4" overhang is the maximum overhang recommended for the stair and deck application per National Code. National Code does not require an overhang. However, if an overhang s desired or needed, depending on the design, it is recommended not to exceed 3/4", meaning it could be less if desired or needed. If you have any further questions regarding this matter, please feel free to reach out direct. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Kind Regards, Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com

    • @frozenrope2822
      @frozenrope2822 10 місяців тому

      @@TheTrexCo I understand the code you speak of, but my impression of the code was that if you have the overhang (or not), it must be applied to ALL steps, and in this install video, it’s not.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  10 місяців тому

      Hello. Thank you for your follow-up comment. Code does require all steps to have the same overhang. However, in this video we needed to highlight the deck with a completed fascia board all the way around. In this special circumstance, we had a difference in overhang, with preparation of the potential of needing to rip a piece of decking to 3/4" wide and attach it to the top step if needed, to follow code 100%. Kind Regards. - Trex Customer Care

  • @michaeltemple8333
    @michaeltemple8333 9 місяців тому

    A total of $25 worth of screw per post for the flat head screws seems expensive. Any way to do it for less? Maybe using through bolts in certain places?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  9 місяців тому

      Hello. Thank you utilizing our Trex Academy UA-cam and your interest in our products. We would advise confirming with a local code official regarding what screws, other than what was mentioned in the video, would be required with in your local area. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you for choosing Trex. Kind Regards, Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com

    • @zmania101
      @zmania101 3 місяці тому

      1/2" galvanized carriage bolts with a nut and washer would be a good alternative. Check the DCA6 prescriptive residential wooden deck construction guide for more info.

    • @michaeltemple8333
      @michaeltemple8333 3 місяці тому +1

      @@zmania101 I ended up using their process with the screws. Wasn’t worth trying to save money because of the amount I had already spent on the staid and deck. Completely solid.

  • @wallacehannah5883
    @wallacehannah5883 Рік тому

    No need to square end of 2x12 in order to cut stronger

    • @PeterB12345
      @PeterB12345 Рік тому

      Depends on how good the cut from the factory is... sometimes they're square, not always.

  • @jerrygabbard2578
    @jerrygabbard2578 Рік тому

    When measuring & cutting stringers, don't you need to subtract the width of the rim board from the run of the bottom step?

    • @quietseditionist
      @quietseditionist 11 місяців тому

      Yes, definitely. They skipped over they part in this video, but you can tell they did it because the treads actually fit at the end! 😂

  • @theRedCatRed
    @theRedCatRed Рік тому

    Could you picture frame the stairs and overhang the tread to hide the cut edge of the fascia?

    • @Forlornguild
      @Forlornguild Рік тому

      Yes... and it looks much, much cleaner with no cut edges showing. Even if the deck is not picture framed, its worth it to do stair that way.

    • @bretreetz1503
      @bretreetz1503 Рік тому +1

      Always miter your corners pitcure framed or not cut edges look stupid. And the products to damn much to have a exposed cut edge. #garbagecarpenter

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Hi, You absolutely can picture frame the stairs. We would not recommend an overhang over 3/4" but it is definitely acceptable to do. Trex Customer Care 1-800-289-8739

  • @joekind1
    @joekind1 Рік тому

    A better way is to use the building code that is 2R+T=24".

  • @leestebbins5051
    @leestebbins5051 2 роки тому +1

    Why not pour your pad before calculating risers,hmmm?

    • @leestebbins5051
      @leestebbins5051 2 роки тому

      Duh, easy on the trigger.

    • @billkelly8222
      @billkelly8222 Рік тому

      They want to use a single concrete pour to create the pad and at the same time fill in the post holes within the pad. They use the finished stringers (with correctly sized risers) to locate the post holes and erect the posts.

  • @dougprentice1363
    @dougprentice1363 Рік тому

    This is a nicely done series. However they really breezed over a lot of the details on this one. Like how to hide the cut edges of the material on the ends of treads and cut facia. Looks like they just left it.

    • @wallacehannah5883
      @wallacehannah5883 Рік тому

      Yea the stringer skirt boards should be mitered as well as the risers

  • @dougbonham1103
    @dougbonham1103 Рік тому

    This is a good introduction but they are wrong on a couple things. For example all the decks need slope so the total rise should be measured with a level. Not a clamped 2x4 to your sloped deck.

  • @malikto1
    @malikto1 Рік тому

    Why seal the cut edges if your using tape to protect them? Seems unnecessary.

  • @yuripolkavich7469
    @yuripolkavich7469 Рік тому

    Excellent tutorial on the installation of this product. The woman talking through her nose was very similar to the sound of finger nails scratching across a chalkboard. I had to mute it every time she talked, very annoying.

  • @stevenbuck5948
    @stevenbuck5948 4 місяці тому

    pt 4x4 , dinosaurs

  • @Murphy-by2co
    @Murphy-by2co Рік тому +3

    There is so much sexual tension between these two lol

  • @lastmanstanding1954
    @lastmanstanding1954 8 місяців тому

    OVER KILL ! ! !

  • @laurafeltz2715
    @laurafeltz2715 11 місяців тому

    How wide are these stairs?

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  11 місяців тому

      Hello Laura, thank you for reaching out to us. The stairs are 4' wide. Kindly, - Trex Customer Care Team

    • @fernandomatos8814
      @fernandomatos8814 19 годин тому

      Is that 4’ wide from the center of the top posts or is that 4’ measuring from the inside of those top posts?

  • @connorbeach4039
    @connorbeach4039 Рік тому

    @TheTrexCo You are using Simpson Strap-Ties (@strongtie) wrong! Those are NOT made for supporting a stringer to a header @38:33. They have a different one made for stringer supports. You have potentially 206K viewers that are making stairs with the wrong support.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Hello Connor. Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention. This specific application shown is a common method for installation. However, we always reccomend comfirming with local code for installation regulations. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you for choosing Trex. Kind Regards. -Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com

    • @connorbeach4039
      @connorbeach4039 Рік тому

      @TheTrexCo I appreciate that you recommend people review their local code. They should also reach out to Simpson Strap-Ties too so they can hear how this is not the right usage. Always need to follow manufacturers recommendations which you flagrantly ignore.

  • @robertfonnesbeck7222
    @robertfonnesbeck7222 Рік тому

    You state that the end run of the stairs is 33 3/4 inches by multiplying 11 1/4 inch tread by 3. You later state that the stringer will have a 10 inch run per step. That doesn't compute. The run is 30 inches with a 1 1/4 nosing only at the end so the end of your stair will be 31 1/4 not 33 3/4. This should be corrected.

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  Рік тому

      Hi Robert, Trex recommends a 3/4" overhang on each step. The stair treads in this video use 2 deck boards (5-1/2" x 2 = 11") gapped 1/4" with a 3/4" overhang. Trex fascia (1/2") was also used on each riser. Additional information on how the stringer run was calculated can be found in the video starting at 6:16. Please reach out to us at 1-800-BUY-TREX if you need additional assistance.

    • @Senorbarnum
      @Senorbarnum Рік тому

      You are right Robert. I ran into this issue cutting my stringers today. I measured for an 11 1/4 run per step then revised it to 9 7/8 to account for a 3/4 overhang and a 5/8 facia. (My trex facia was 5/8 not 1/2”). Anyway the stringer fell short of where it was originally figured to land.

  • @relyk226notnroht4
    @relyk226notnroht4 Рік тому

    I feel like all the youtube biulding channels do things way over board is it just me or have I always done things wrong lol

  • @countryshaner141
    @countryshaner141 Рік тому

    Not only do these boards cost a lot more but you have to add more boards to deck. And the frame under will rot in 10 years. Why pay this much for these deck boards?

  • @kennethyoung3911
    @kennethyoung3911 Рік тому

    Many code issues. All steps must have a 1 inch nose, the bottom landing footing must be 12 inches deep under the stringers, your run, if you buried the tread under the riser board is less than 11 inches required which includes the nosing inch.

    • @ltmaddog773
      @ltmaddog773 Рік тому

      One inch nose beyond the fascia or beyond the stringer riser?

  • @brettmiller5367
    @brettmiller5367 Рік тому

    When I see safety glasses, ear plugs, gloves, for this lightweight job I turn it off. That concrete demo equipment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Elizabeth-mo3fv
    @Elizabeth-mo3fv 10 місяців тому

    raw edges on the sides of the stairs is not a finished look. maybe should have cut trex tread covers 3/4” longer to cover raw edge

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  10 місяців тому

      Hello. Thank you for reaching out to Trex and your interest in our products. We do have a couple different recommendations to hide the exposed edges of stair treads, giving a more finished look, if desired. To learn more about our recommendations to hide the exposed edges, please reach out direct. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you for choosing Trex. 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  10 місяців тому

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  • @peterjohnson617
    @peterjohnson617 5 місяців тому

    stairs should be made so that a blind person can walk them without fear. 7 stringers ? never,ever would I use trex for the treads, nor would I put those 4x`s on the inside of the steps,of course the same goes for the post on the deck itself. No need to get crazy about them risers no less than 4 no more than 8 ,never more than 1/4 inch between , the rise and run should add up to 17 inches or close and being out doors I would always prime the bottoms of those 4x``s but heck everyone has their own way of doing things, the main thing is to made them safe.

  • @Sprezzatura1
    @Sprezzatura1 Рік тому

    Goddamn, that deck cost a million dollars

  • @shackamerica8985
    @shackamerica8985 Рік тому

    Wished I'd have kept my bulldozer to drive up the steps with all those stringers. I've built a ton of stuff through the years and in this video I've learned not what to do. This is all overkill and pretty boring in my opinion. Nail the crap together and in 20 years people will want to replace it anyways.

    • @acemany1126
      @acemany1126 Місяць тому

      Not me shack. I haven't replaced mines in 50 years. If I was those people, I would have place 20 stringers and cost them with concrete.when I do it, I do it big whyte boi!!!

  • @Stan_in_Shelton_WA
    @Stan_in_Shelton_WA Рік тому

    I don't understand why you build stairs and then obstruct them with posts in the stairs. You lost over a foot of the stair width and it does not look good.

  • @klb1325
    @klb1325 7 місяців тому

    Don’t look that good to me.plus I don’t think it will last!plus u toon may not like my comment,so I might be blocked

  • @davidnoyes9115
    @davidnoyes9115 4 місяці тому

    You guys a okay but your give way to much information and make it to hard to follow for the average person

    • @TheTrexCo
      @TheTrexCo  4 місяці тому +1

      Hello. I apologize the video was not helpful to you. However, if we can assist with answering questions regarding installation of Trex product, please reach out to our Customer Care Loyalty Advocate Department. We will be more than happy to assist. Kindly, Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 |
      customercare@trex.com

    • @davidnoyes9115
      @davidnoyes9115 4 місяці тому

      @@TheTrexCo I didn’t say it wasn’t helpful, I’m saying all the info given is confusing and to difficult for the average DIY’er to follow, all I’m saying is simplify it

  • @CMCraftsman
    @CMCraftsman 9 місяців тому +1

    This is ridiculous. First of all, use a 2x12 for the outer ply of the deck frame and rip it to 2x8 where the stairs aren’t. It’s 2023, stop using pt posts. They warp and twist. Buy structural galvanized posts and put your wraps over that. There are a few different ways you can finish the exposed ends of the stair treads, risers, and pvc stringers. This is not one of them if you want it to look nice.

  • @kyletrump8025
    @kyletrump8025 Рік тому

    There's such an easier way to do this..

  • @badbutcherbad1189
    @badbutcherbad1189 9 місяців тому +1

    I feel like you guys are overcomplicating it for the sake of dumbing it down and making it visual

  • @johnbailey2024
    @johnbailey2024 Місяць тому

    Those side trim pieces look like crap, the treads should overhang the side trim,, she looks like a good piece of side trim too