How much $$$ to fix my antique guitar? Repair estimate on an 120 year old Bauer Parlor

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  • @jafo1970
    @jafo1970 3 місяці тому +7

    I'd totally dig watching the repair.

  • @user-pu9eq3bz7x
    @user-pu9eq3bz7x 8 днів тому +1

    Some of us came for the banjo, stayed for the humor. (and guitars)

  • @JulianHolmSteensen
    @JulianHolmSteensen 3 місяці тому +16

    Love it! I would definitely like to see that repair!

  • @costasarantidis4499
    @costasarantidis4499 2 місяці тому +1

    Ah, the smile when you said joint 😊

  • @chrisoakmountain2387
    @chrisoakmountain2387 3 місяці тому +3

    Of course we would LOVE to see the repair, please.

  • @elbowache
    @elbowache 3 місяці тому +3

    I, for one, would enjoy seeing the whole job transact itself.

  • @rickkutzer1981
    @rickkutzer1981 2 місяці тому +1

    I really would enjoy learning the steps you would take to restore this guitar.

  • @benjaminbrockway2048
    @benjaminbrockway2048 3 місяці тому +4

    That’s a generous estimate. Give yourself a raise!

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +2

      I know I know, I undercharge like an idiot.

  • @joshuasutton8301
    @joshuasutton8301 3 місяці тому +4

    I enjoyed this video. It really demystifies the estimation process when it comes to repairs. I completely understand why most luthiers/repair people want to see the guitar and spend some time with it before giving an estimate.

  • @cimmaron50
    @cimmaron50 3 місяці тому +2

    Fix it, it's cool and a piece of history.

  • @RobHutten
    @RobHutten 3 місяці тому +4

    Beautiful guitar. Interesting to see the assessment process.

  • @timothymallon
    @timothymallon 3 місяці тому +1

    Id love to see this repair/restore

  • @SixSixthSix
    @SixSixthSix 3 місяці тому +1

    That's what she said 😂
    Nice!
    Beautiful find, really fancy (pinky out) appointment's.

  • @gabriellongworth
    @gabriellongworth 3 місяці тому +2

    Dude your level of knowledge is amazing. Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @gabriellongworth
    @gabriellongworth 3 місяці тому +1

    the diamond inlays of the sound hole purfling are EXCELLENT!

  • @HarpinJScott
    @HarpinJScott 3 місяці тому +1

    Dig it! Would love to see the repair process. Make the video - we will come!

  • @MC-sg5yr
    @MC-sg5yr 3 місяці тому +3

    The algorithm is nuts for some creators. Another creator I watch sometimes named Red Means Recording is having an existential crisis from it. It's a shame that people who work hard on incredible and interesting videos showcasing their skills, talents and knowledge aren't rewarded more for their efforts.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      Just looked up his channel and WOW, those are extremely low views compared to his subscribers. I’ve only been posting for 4 months, but definitely felt like I was shadow banned briefly at one point after breaking a “rule” in a short. Perhaps he’s met a similar fate for an unknown infraction.

    • @MC-sg5yr
      @MC-sg5yr 3 місяці тому

      Possibly, I think also that the algorithm kind of puts creators in a box sometimes and disincentives exploring ideas. In Jeremy's case (red) he got a ton of views for his series on jam sessions with the OP-1 synth and then started pivoting into modular synth discussions and other equipment. The algorithm sees a bunch of people subscribed for his music that don't watch his videos on gear and history and so it stops showing those videos in people's feed. I recommend the video "OP-1 12-26-23 (feral)" for a really interesting yet heartbreaking introspective.
      I see people like David Hilowitz and I'm thrilled for his success since he hit the algorithm sweet spot for videos on interesting and rare equipment that he restores and makes music with. It shows that the audience is there for that style of video but the algorithm hasn't figured that out yet for other content creators.
      It's a good argument for second channels for stuff that is different so I would say don't be afraid to do that in the future if you feel like it would help separate your video styles. I've seen a lot of guys do something like a walkthrough of a guitar and a review on their main channel and their second channel is dedicated to a long video on the setup they do to it on the bench. It's not a perfect solution but it can help. The algorithm does what it does because people are wildly different with where their interests intersect. Someone that would listen to me talk about music may not be interested in me talking about the way I wired my jaguar. In my head it makes sense because I love music and the equipment we use to make it but not everyone feels that way. Your channel was suggested to me because the algorithm probably saw I watch stew mac videos and Puisheen (offset guitar tech) and that other people with those interests clicked on your methstang video.
      Music channels are a real challenge because of all the niches that come together under "music". You have people like hainbach who still have shockingly low views for the quality of work they put into their videos. I can see how that could cause psychic damage to people who put effort and a bit of their soul into something to share with people. Anyway, short story long, low views don't mean low quality. It makes me extremely happy to watch someone else talk about pickups and unique instruments. I appreciate your videos sharing your skills and craft. If you enjoy doing them, keep doing them. I'm always excited to find out what's in that case.

  • @gianmariagrasso5792
    @gianmariagrasso5792 3 місяці тому +1

    I would like to see the entire repair work!

  • @r0flgal0re
    @r0flgal0re 3 місяці тому +1

    Please make a video on the repair if possible. Much luvs.

  • @kevjones5047
    @kevjones5047 3 місяці тому +1

    She's a beauty, love to see her saved.

  • @ngiles1000
    @ngiles1000 3 місяці тому +2

    We wonna see we wonna see

  • @johnDBoone
    @johnDBoone 3 місяці тому +1

    Not sure why you are getting the negative comments about this video . I happen to appreciate it because I often wonder if I purchase an older guitar about how much repair work is going to cost so I can figure that in see if it's worth purchasing the instrument . Now I have a pretty good idea of average cost and the way you go about assessing the work and different type of repairs . I think a video of this type every now and then would be a good addition to the channel . Keep up the great work . Haters are going to hate . That's what they do . Just know that you got at least one person out here that appreciates it. You rarely see a repair person talk about prices so this was rather refreshing and very informative

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      Awesome, glad to hear it. Perhaps in the future I can combine estimates and repairs into one video and get the whole shebang for errrybody.

    • @parengstrand3101
      @parengstrand3101 16 днів тому

      ​@@Notaluthier yeah, that would be brilliant!

  • @sarcletti
    @sarcletti 3 місяці тому +7

    My name is "Bauer" an I never expected to discover a guitar company of that name (with such advanced guitar build knowledge). Btw the German word "Bauer" means simply farmer.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      George Bauer was an excellent luthier who filled a niche of higher end instruments from a smaller outfit. He soon partnered with S S Stewart, (Bauer & Stewart) but that relationship didn’t last very long because Stewart died shortly after. Not long after that, George’s brother, or maybe sons, took over. And “the Bauer company” was born. Most of their instruments were built to a high standard.

    • @lobsterbush4563
      @lobsterbush4563 3 місяці тому

      Germany, Austria and Czech all had luthiers with the name Bauer building archtops, flat tops and lutes from the 1800s up to the mid 1900s

    • @benwright6330
      @benwright6330 15 годин тому

      ..is your first name Eddie?

  • @chazstewart4865
    @chazstewart4865 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd love to see the repairs..... assuming the client gives the go ahead of course.

  • @stevebrooks4th
    @stevebrooks4th 3 місяці тому +2

    Or as Lebowski said, "New shit has come to light. Man"

  • @victorparis7189
    @victorparis7189 3 місяці тому +1

    Hooray! NEW VIDEO TY!

  • @AncientApparatus
    @AncientApparatus 2 місяці тому +1

    Would love to see the repair video!

  • @chadwilliams8583
    @chadwilliams8583 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow very good condition, especially for the age.wow!!

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      It’s better condition than most of the projects I buy, but still needs almost as much work!

  • @davidsims1329
    @davidsims1329 3 місяці тому +1

    I love you job. Great work

  • @daverice2426
    @daverice2426 Місяць тому +1

    Handyman/small C carpenter (who builds guitars & amps & stuff for shits and giggles) here; man I hate estimates (even though I've only gotten really boned once or twice), much prefer to go time & materials whenever possible. I work on a lot of 100+ year old houses and just like this old guitar there's always stuff that surprises you well into the process. Dig seeing your approach to assessing this stuff, what you came up with was in the same ballpark as what I was thinking so yeah, you might be screwing yourself a little, ha, ha.

  • @daleskidmore1685
    @daleskidmore1685 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice guitar, well worth doing the work. It was refreshing to get an estimate of the cost too. I think the neck joint is easier to get apart than a dovetail, it is like the Germany made guitars from the 50s you find over here in the UK.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      I did a 66-67 Hofner bass neck reset not long ago with the same kind of joint as well.

    • @daleskidmore1685
      @daleskidmore1685 3 місяці тому

      @@Notaluthier I'm sure there are many from that same factory with other names on the headstock. I cut my teeth on them 30 years ago, pine neck block was the weak point. They are going up in price now to the point they are worth restoring once more.

  • @THE67BAND
    @THE67BAND 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice guitar

  • @gogotrololo
    @gogotrololo 3 місяці тому +1

    Love it

  • @lukespread
    @lukespread Місяць тому +1

    What you did with the strap pin? "I'll leave that in for now" and proceed to worry about it before anything else? That's me. You are not alone.

  • @peterjames2580
    @peterjames2580 3 місяці тому +1

    Show repair please, more more more.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      Will do! This one should be interesting, especially with the violin mortise neck joint!

    • @peterjames2580
      @peterjames2580 3 місяці тому

      @@Notaluthier I love these old guitars, I had a chance to rebuild an old "Lakeside" parlor and have been hooked ever sense.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      @@peterjames2580 my very first client neck reset was a Washburn “new model” 1897 style and it sounded so incredible that I not-so-subtly asked if the owner would want to sell it to me. Ever since I’ve been collecting these wonderful guitars. The first one I bought (and heat straightened the neck) turns out to be the best sounding one I’ve had, but that doesn’t stop me from buying as many as come my way at a good price.

    • @WansbeckBikecam
      @WansbeckBikecam 3 місяці тому

      ​@@NotaluthierI did a neck reset on an old German 195o's Antoria archtop recently. It had ghat type of neck joint which was a surprise for me. But it was actually pretty easy to get it dialled in. Certainly no harder than a dovetail and possibly easier. Each guitar will be different though. I have just repaired a lovely c1896 mandolin made by Anton Bauer from Linz in Austria. Quality instrument. I wonder if they were related? Thanks for the videos, very enjoyable. 😊

  • @PaisleyPatchouli
    @PaisleyPatchouli 3 місяці тому +1

    When you first said $800, I actually laughed out loud. (LOLed?) That is a pretty guitar, but it not supporting steel strings would curb my enthusiasm for investing a lot into it for some reason. I recently had a couple of older instruments 'refurbished', and it's always good to know what others would charge for similar projects. Unfortunately where I live there are not many choices in competent repair shops, so one can't easily get comparative estimates before embarking on one of these 'adventures'. I think it's always a bit of a crap shoot as well, as there's no guarantee that you'll be 100% satisfied with the results of a major overhaul until the work is actually done. Another thing I recently learned is that just because a luthier can actually build a half decent guitar from scratch does not guarantee that he will be any good at repairing something like this. The skill sets and experience required for building vs repairing are quite different, at least according to a recent experience here... :/

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +3

      Any 100yo+ X braced Brazilian rosewood parlor guitar from a well reputed company with a fairly nice level of inlay/decoration is well worth investing in, even as a nylon guitar. I believe with a couple of non invasive procedures, this will accommodate extra light steel strings. Even the estimate I gave is probably fairly modest compared to what most shops would charge.
      A lot of individual luthiers and shops are not competent and/or not interested in this level of repair. You have to have a passion for the instruments’ history, and a knowledge of proper age-appropriate techniques and materials. Add that to all the individual skills and tools required and yep…it’s expensive.

    • @PaisleyPatchouli
      @PaisleyPatchouli 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Notaluthier Actually, I LOLed because the estimate was so LOW! Once you got up to the $2k level, it seemed much more realistic... Sorry, I probably wasn't too clear on my previous post. :)
      Edit: And I agree that a couple well placed braces would make it killer for silk and steels or other light gauge strings...

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      @@PaisleyPatchouli oh good! Yeah I wasn’t sure! $800 was definitely “shoot yourself in the foot” pricing

    • @PaisleyPatchouli
      @PaisleyPatchouli 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Notaluthier Yeah, I would have felt awful if you thought that I meant $800 was too high. :-) I mean these days that barely covers a neck reset with fret dress, saddle and nut.

  • @ChristofferNelsonG
    @ChristofferNelsonG 3 місяці тому +1

    Oo. Liking Hmmm by Hymm. Only on track 2, but I suspect it's all this good.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! I’m not embarrassed by it, so it must be at least OKAY!

    • @ChristofferNelsonG
      @ChristofferNelsonG 3 місяці тому

      @@Notaluthier I feel the same about my 100 year old record(s). Well, the early stuff has embarrassing moments, but I still enjoy it.

  • @ManuelKellermann
    @ManuelKellermann 3 місяці тому +1

    Repair video please!

  • @zacktaylor3441
    @zacktaylor3441 3 місяці тому +1

    Looking forward to the repair videos on this one. I hoard all the beat to hell little victorian parlor guitars I can and this one is a nice one. I’m interested to see how you deal with all those longitudinal fretboard cracks. Living in arizona all the old guitars that come out of closets look like that or worse. I usually try the superglue, bone black, razor blade scraper thing which is easy but tedious

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      Yeah ebony dust and superglue is going to be the way with this one. It’s looking like it’s probably ebonized, not ebony, so I might have to mix some lighter dust in to match the faded black a little better, because, as you probably know, the superglue tends to darken the dust. I’m likely going to refret the neck as well to add compression to the slots to aid in a steel string conversion. And so I can level all the fills at once with a sanding beam instead of having to scrape between all the frets. The pitfall of course will be that glue gets in the fret slots and they’ll have to be re-sawn.

    • @zacktaylor3441
      @zacktaylor3441 3 місяці тому

      Hey thanks very much for the response. On a guitar like this, of you need to pull off the fretboard, do you consider installing a truss rod or a carbon reinforcing rod ? I did one a while back that had a pretty flat neck at baseline and didnt put any reinforcement and feel like a committed a great sin. Thanks for your time on these videos and the attention you give your viewers.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      @@zacktaylor3441 it all depends on the wood for sure. If it’s a stout neck that’s remained straight so far, I might not, but if it’s the kind of neck that moves when you tune up, I’ll add a reinforcement for sure

  • @henryewbaker
    @henryewbaker 3 місяці тому +2

    Lovely instrument, if it were mine I think I'd ask you to pop the fingerboard off and stick a truss rod or some sort of reinforcement in there while we're at it...

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      Yeah if the board comes off I’ll often add a reinforcement or truss Rod, good point.

    • @daverice2426
      @daverice2426 Місяць тому

      @@Notaluthier Would graphite maybe be appropriate there?

  • @1-eye-willy
    @1-eye-willy 3 місяці тому +1

    ive got to do a kung fu reset on this hondo i got out of the trash, im not looking forward to it, thios video just might inspire me to go through with it today

  • @mkenels
    @mkenels 3 місяці тому +1

    Please show the repairs… must see how it turns out.

  • @YellowJello57
    @YellowJello57 3 місяці тому +3

    Of course we want to see the repairs. Without wishing to be unkind, I would even go so far as to say I don't really care for this video, I only want to see the repairs. Still love you and everything you do.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      No problem. Yeah, most people won’t like this video and it wont make any money. It’s a lose-lose!

    • @patrickniedermeyer2112
      @patrickniedermeyer2112 3 місяці тому +1

      Completely appreciate this video. Thanks. It helps my own assessment skills. Putting a number out there before you spit your's out is a fun game. Instead of dollars, perhaps providing an estimate of total hours required, plus a whiteboard list of all the issues you've identified for repair.
      Now that it's out, I'd guess you've discovered half a dozen other issues that need addressing. More of these sprinkled in between repair videos might also sharpen your assessment skillset. Maybe?!

  • @DumpsterDivingDragon
    @DumpsterDivingDragon 3 місяці тому +1

    B O I N G GGG GGG GGG! + Might that inlay be an Old Tusk Ivory? + Oh yes. i truly am enjoying your' [Not A] Way's...
    Way Cool ~ ` get a bit squintchy along the vay ~ Then you make iT all better via finale o'day.
    Ty!, again ... That's the 3rd view of your vids in a row... Today!
    SAy? Dd'ya have shop in Bath ME - 4+ Dcd.'s ago? 💜✌🏼

  • @m.a.c.8366
    @m.a.c.8366 3 місяці тому +1

    Interesting assessment. For an owner of a guitar of this age, maker and current condition, would there be any gained value in the guitar after the repairs you outlined were made?

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      An unplayable guitar is worth significantly less than a playable one. This guitar is probably only worth about as much as it would cost to fix. Bauer is well known and respected, but you wouldn’t be able to profit off of reselling it unless you did the repairs yourself (and didn’t count your hours)

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      To be even more clear, unplayable, this guitar is worth about $5-800 on the open market, and when completed, in good condition and nicely playable it’s more like 1400-2000. Possibly Significantly more in a retail setting. The only Bauer on reverb right now has an asking price of $3700usd

    • @m.a.c.8366
      @m.a.c.8366 3 місяці тому

      @@Notaluthier Thanks much for your replys and insight on the value aspect of repairing a guitar with such condition issues.

  • @that_thing_I_do
    @that_thing_I_do 3 місяці тому +1

    Just make sure that you make note of your hours divided by the money you cashed.Hopefully, it won't be less than minimum wage.

  • @archloy
    @archloy 3 місяці тому +1

    You present the guitar. You have to film the repair. Period. :)

  • @chriswareham
    @chriswareham 3 місяці тому +2

    Calls himself "not a luthier", but video by video shows himself to be very much a luthier!

  • @RuneCarverLLC
    @RuneCarverLLC 3 місяці тому +1

    @NOT A LUTHIER
    @5:45 😳🤔😵‍💫🤬🤔 stuck strap pin/towel rod.
    ...
    My brother, this is why the gods made Vai-Scripts! 💁💁💁

  • @Goomer
    @Goomer 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't think a lot of luthiers would touch something like that.

  • @VonRock
    @VonRock 3 місяці тому +1

    youtube university in session

  • @henrypagan6657
    @henrypagan6657 2 місяці тому +1

    Should be more $$$$

  • @jkpq8738
    @jkpq8738 3 місяці тому

    Novice here: what is the guitar worth in its current condition, and after it's repaired?

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      In an open auction on eBay, probably $5-600 as is, $1800 and on upward for retail prices after it’s fixed. Most brands of high quality parlours from this era are still vastly undervalued in my opinion, especially compared to equivalent Gibson and Martin’s The only Bauer for sale on reverb right now is asking $3700.

    • @jkpq8738
      @jkpq8738 3 місяці тому

      @@Notaluthier Wow! Thank you for your reply. I suppose the only way to make the repairs worth it would be to have the skills to repair it yourself. Think it will remain part of your collection, or will you fix and send on down the road?

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      @@jkpq8738 if history is any indicator, I will keep it 🙈 I probably have more than a dozen BRW parlours at this point though.

  • @sirram_e
    @sirram_e 3 місяці тому +1

    why is your audio like off to the side?...

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому

      Oh dang! Hmm. Well I used two mic’s in stereo, so perhaps one is picking up more than the other. All of the programs I’m using are 100% new to me as of 4 months ago, so I’m still figuring out how to optimize everything. D’oh! The editing program doesn’t seem to have an easy way to convert it into mono.

  • @paulpennington-mv7rt
    @paulpennington-mv7rt 3 місяці тому +1

    Wednesday?? 🤔

  • @ChristofferNelsonG
    @ChristofferNelsonG 3 місяці тому +1

    Are you a Timeless alumni? Just curious. Between friends and other channels and Dave himself I am rather familiar. I've even made a few trips to Tugaske.
    ...of course, you keep calling the fingerboard a fretboard, so I am guessing you are indeed not a luthier XD
    I'm not either. Just a rocker who learned to fix guitars out of necessity.
    Sorry for the fingerboard comment. That was dickish.

    • @Notaluthier
      @Notaluthier  3 місяці тому +1

      Hahaha no worries. I am 100% self taught, and thus NOT a luthier, however terminology can vary from country to country and instrument to instrument. I wouldn’t refer to a fretless instruments fingerboard as a fretboard because it has no frets.

  • @sbrown1953
    @sbrown1953 3 місяці тому +1

    El Cee & Es'D

  • @Grishanof
    @Grishanof 3 місяці тому +1

    With antique guitars it's usually not just a slab of wood you picked from aliexpress, predictable and expendable, the repairman would treat it as an antique piece which needs jeweler's level of attention, even it's just a shitbox that survived the attic with nothing but a nostalgic value. Talk to a guy, restoring a wallhanger to playable condition is easier and cheaper than a proper repair.

  • @tonylewis1803
    @tonylewis1803 3 місяці тому +1

    No raise…… must keep amateur status………….and not nearly enough cleats.

  • @jeffreyp1855
    @jeffreyp1855 3 місяці тому +1

    Buy it from the owner, and show us a deep repair. 🤘