I'm all aboard this Prussian Express! I think the biggest issue, not sure if it's modeled in game, would be the increased literacy of everyone as time progresses. Eventually enough of your digiGermans will be able to find out about dangerous political ideologies. Maybe having a LOT of soldier pops, and really play into the Prussia "Army with a Nation" RP is a good way to keep a majority of your pops on the right side of the political spectrum. Should be a fun experiment to see play out!
A good thing would be for the this playtrough is that most of the great powers go liberal or communist and you try to stop them if this rng does happen it would be a very interesting campagin
3:10 Did Germany lose it's "autocracy" because it was less optimal then the Brits and the French or did they lose it's political structure because well, they lost. And did they lose the war because their system was less efficient or because the Kaiser and his clique was diplomatically incompetent?
Excellent questions, all of them. I would say for the first that the autocracy was already eroded after voting rights were granted. For the loss of the war, it was because the British cultivated a relationship with the USA in the late 1800s while throwing Germany under the bus every chance it could. With the USA backing the British right to blockade, the Germans were unable to feed themselves properly.
To go straight into the second phase while skipping the first would just mean a militarist industrialization, as opposed to one based on consumer goods. Since without liberalisation and the freedom of capital there would be no resource allocation to the improvement of the lifestyles of the middle and upper strata. Your overall GDP would be smaller, but you will have a more powerful state and army.
The series concept is interesting but at game start Prussia has already made key liberal reforms required for industrialization: eliminating serfdom, traditionalism and creating a school system. You can industrialize from day one without any major issues so I don't believe you can answer the question you posed playing Prussia. Russia, China, Ottomans and many other nations would make far better test cases for industrialization without liberalization. Spoiler Alert: illiberal industrialized nations have existed for a long time (USSR, modern China) and can easily be created in Victoria 3. I'm sure it can still be an entertaining series so I look forward to the next episode.
this is going to be incredibly fun to watch! whenever i play Prussia i almost invariably run as far away from its real world political structure as possible lol
Its more than possible, I have played several fully "conservative" and isolationist Japan games and easily conquered half the world in some games and gone fully "tall" in others. Just because it worked in real life doesn't mean its the only way to reach the same end goal.
@@An_Economist_Plays yes, but still there is at least a period of arround fifty years from the italian wars untill 1918 where an mostly conservative austria was industrialized
@JoseSantiagoSaenzVilla but at the same time, that industrialization took place in the German and Czech parts of the empire, arguably the more liberalized parts. It's a question worth exploring.
@@An_Economist_Plays yes, thats the cislethania part. And while it was more liberal than the rest of the empire it still was pretty conservative for european standards.
19:50 Does it really make sense to tax wheat? Even with the additional money coming in the SoL of the poor pops would be made worse badly enough to make the additional income not worth it I feel like
I'm all aboard this Prussian Express! I think the biggest issue, not sure if it's modeled in game, would be the increased literacy of everyone as time progresses. Eventually enough of your digiGermans will be able to find out about dangerous political ideologies. Maybe having a LOT of soldier pops, and really play into the Prussia "Army with a Nation" RP is a good way to keep a majority of your pops on the right side of the political spectrum.
Should be a fun experiment to see play out!
Some of my hopes and fears, to be sure!
A good thing would be for the this playtrough is that most of the great powers go liberal or communist and you try to stop them if this rng does happen it would be a very interesting campagin
I'll say that I've done a few episodes and I've got some interesting questions that emerge from the play so far. This series is heavy on the analysis.
3:10 Did Germany lose it's "autocracy" because it was less optimal then the Brits and the French or did they lose it's political structure because well, they lost. And did they lose the war because their system was less efficient or because the Kaiser and his clique was diplomatically incompetent?
Excellent questions, all of them. I would say for the first that the autocracy was already eroded after voting rights were granted. For the loss of the war, it was because the British cultivated a relationship with the USA in the late 1800s while throwing Germany under the bus every chance it could. With the USA backing the British right to blockade, the Germans were unable to feed themselves properly.
To go straight into the second phase while skipping the first would just mean a militarist industrialization, as opposed to one based on consumer goods. Since without liberalisation and the freedom of capital there would be no resource allocation to the improvement of the lifestyles of the middle and upper strata. Your overall GDP would be smaller, but you will have a more powerful state and army.
Let us test out that theory!
Yooooo!! Germany campaign, this'll be so cool to see!
There's some *very* cool stuff in later episodes that I was quite pleased to see!
The series concept is interesting but at game start Prussia has already made key liberal reforms required for industrialization: eliminating serfdom, traditionalism and creating a school system. You can industrialize from day one without any major issues so I don't believe you can answer the question you posed playing Prussia. Russia, China, Ottomans and many other nations would make far better test cases for industrialization without liberalization. Spoiler Alert: illiberal industrialized nations have existed for a long time (USSR, modern China) and can easily be created in Victoria 3.
I'm sure it can still be an entertaining series so I look forward to the next episode.
Quite true for Prussia's existing reforms, so the question will be how much of what's left can I cling to - or claw back?
this is going to be incredibly fun to watch! whenever i play Prussia i almost invariably run as far away from its real world political structure as possible lol
As do I. It is interesting for me to be clicking on the "wrong" things.
Love your content, greetings from Brazil
And hello from Dallas, Texas!
id love to see him with the bokoen1 group...specially with swimmy
I do conquer Denmark rather frequently, will that be an issue? 😁
@@An_Economist_Plays hahaha anything to annoy ratkoen1 is perfect
@yeetjohann2114 brb, making Denmark a protectorate...
@@An_Economist_Plays perhaps you could actually contact him, in my imagination it would be hillarious
Can you make an absolute monarchy with a one-party system? I see it as the best "conservative" solution to remain established in the government
That would be some interesting political acrobatics...
Its more than possible, I have played several fully "conservative" and isolationist Japan games and easily conquered half the world in some games and gone fully "tall" in others. Just because it worked in real life doesn't mean its the only way to reach the same end goal.
Based Germany, let's goooo
Well there is the historical example of austria (not necesarily the whole empire but cislethania)
True, but in that case, one could argue the industrialization, coupled with the pressures of war, led to the shattering liberalism of 1918.
@@An_Economist_Plays yes, but still there is at least a period of arround fifty years from the italian wars untill 1918 where an mostly conservative austria was industrialized
@JoseSantiagoSaenzVilla but at the same time, that industrialization took place in the German and Czech parts of the empire, arguably the more liberalized parts. It's a question worth exploring.
@@An_Economist_Plays yes, thats the cislethania part. And while it was more liberal than the rest of the empire it still was pretty conservative for european standards.
You just let Helmut Von Moltke die in a duel. I don't know what could be more conservative than this !
Duelling helps to reduce the surplus population. :-D
Will the episodes be Black Sabbath themed? Can I look forward to a Paranoid episode? War Pigs? Heaven and Hell?
Got it in one! War Pigs will be episode 5. 😁
New Lets play woo
With role-playing street cred on the line!
19:50 Does it really make sense to tax wheat? Even with the additional money coming in the SoL of the poor pops would be made worse badly enough to make the additional income not worth it I feel like
Usually I don't tax wheat, but playing as an autocratic power that isn't thinking about peasants put me in the mood to do so.
someone actually thinking victoria 3 is a simulation doesn't know how crappy paradox games are - still a good video though
It's good enough for what I'm looking into. And, with 48 years playing simulation games, I've seen better and I've seen worse.
@@An_Economist_Plays what are the better ones?
@MrJ0lly Close Combat III, The Russian Front. One of the greats
Its game where communism and fascism are meta so i would say its quite obvious
@@An_Economist_Plays thanks, will look
By liberalism you mean capitalism that replaced feudalism ?
The liberalism would be the politics and economics after feudalusm and absolutism, yes.
@@An_Economist_Plays Would Japan after Meiji reustaration be liberal in political terms ?
@funtecstudiovideos4102 I would say yes, in that it had a parliamentary government, albeit one that aided concentration of power.