@gillettjr3 It's only bad if you kill Nappa right out the bat without even placing any keys because even if Vegeta will have a longer timer, it'll still enough time for him to turn Great Ape. The best time to kill Nappa is if his energy is almost full OR the STM is active.
Had a group jump me within the first minute and a half as Zamasu like a week ago and I kinda just sat there cuz I was like… it’s gonna get me to black wayyyy quicker. Idk why people insist on jumping these characters who go up a level when defeated so frequently.
@@jorgesanchez7676 defeating zamasu? Kinda. Zamasu won’t appear on the map to help you out for like a full minute but that hardly does anything because Goku Black is a complete monster without him.
@@jorgesanchez7676 it's situational. Usually while getting keys set up and before stm it's good to distract raiders from camping and if you kill Nappa or Zamasu while they're trying to camp that puts stress on them and then there comes the super time machine and gives time for a super dragon change and stresses the raider out. Also. Vegeta loses a whole active skill and gets his ape cd increased so it's worth doing on stm but early? He just gets to go ape for free and wins the game because he has more time as level 3 to deal damage to survivors. Zamasu? Killing him early is throwing the game. Zamasu is a safe heaven for the GB player because GB doesn't need Zamasu, and since they used their d-change to kill Zamasu you get a free level 3 as GB.. and by the time GB gets LV3 the whole team is in peril cuz GB snipe's you from two thousand meters away, probably no keys and Zamasu is back making it hard to plant and the team is effectively crippled. Basically never do this. Ginyu force? The only character you can get away with killing is Guldo and you massively down Ginyus health by doing so as well as waste a good amount of time for STM. You probably can't kill recoom because he's strong but if you can you're just making Ginyu get out faster. You could try butter and juice (memes) during STM phase as they're not too strong and waste a good amount of time but early on you again lose the game for doing so. The rules of the game are just the survivor is hunted not the hunter, but nobody said they couldn't fight back
In My own experience, A lot of survivors don't seem to understand that just because you can get away with killing an auto evolve raider doesn't always mean you should. I play Ginyu and I've had games where they jump me pretty early as Guldo and I die, however now I have a super early Recoome and it just lets me steamroll through the rest of the game because now since they used all their D Change on Guldo I can get a pretty easy level 3, so killing Guldo early into the match allows me to basically snowball into my level 3 super fast.
That’s usually the case against solo lobby, but when you go against some premade, ginyu force can get crushed how do you say run krillin shoe solar flare charming pose power unleashed You should already know what finishes to equipped the best and most powerful ones gulda can get one hit killed reccome will get stunned wide open to the rest of the team rinse and repeat and they now will have the 7 Dragon Ball and it’s actually Ggs by then, cause someone rolling Unconscious control and spamming dodge 😂😂😂😂
@@goncalocarneiro3043 i think he might mean that his opponents were just running skills that are really annoying to play against I mean charming pose is just a stun no raider with a break strike skill on cooldown can do anything about and change missle + grapple makes a survivor almost never worth chasing
generally, killing a raider is a good idea if you can keep up with the raider, though. it allows you to actually end up defeating them before they have too much health to be stopped. against vegeta, it actually gives him the chance to go great ape, though.
They should have expanded the story mode of this game and had an offline mode where you could chose to be a raider or a survivor and it would’ve been a great game
@@darthrage8722You had Ape, the survivors lost their Level 4, and you still had a little more than half of your health left. You’d have to actually feed for you lose that match from then on.
@darthrage8722 so... instead of getting a clean win... you threw the last three cause you wanted out. That's retarded. You gotta go through so many survivor matched to get raider. And you threw a easy win.
Theres only 2 times where i go sicko mode on vegeta raider and kill saibamen/nappa early. 1. Raider is super low level, meaning they dont know how to fight making running/hiding from them a breeze. Meaning were trying ro get him to ape to use the sword on them... 2. Trying to end the fight fast to get to my next raider fight faster... Please note. I only do 2 if my party is bellow lvl 100.... Love playing surv. Hate carrying a low level party
Kills Nappa when they have 1 key placed, feeds Vegeta all 7 Dragon Balls, truly an amazing Survivor team
You have 4 keys left to find and you decide to kill Nappa this early. What a throw
Yep. This happens every time idiots do that on my team & we lose because of it.
Facts
There's also the fact vegeta didn't activate time machine before killing jaco, if he did thay then he could have gotten everyone
I don’t play the game can I get context why killing Nappa is bad if your a survivor
@gillettjr3 It's only bad if you kill Nappa right out the bat without even placing any keys because even if Vegeta will have a longer timer, it'll still enough time for him to turn Great Ape.
The best time to kill Nappa is if his energy is almost full OR the STM is active.
Had a group jump me within the first minute and a half as Zamasu like a week ago and I kinda just sat there cuz I was like… it’s gonna get me to black wayyyy quicker. Idk why people insist on jumping these characters who go up a level when defeated so frequently.
I'm new, do you at least get something if you defeated them? appart of making the match even harder
@@jorgesanchez7676 defeating zamasu? Kinda. Zamasu won’t appear on the map to help you out for like a full minute but that hardly does anything because Goku Black is a complete monster without him.
@@jorgesanchez7676
Honestly it's not worth the effort, unless your team found all the keys and are setting up at the same time you take down Zamasu.
I think people keep confusing Zamasu of being the same as other team raiders like Vegeta and the Ginyus.
@@jorgesanchez7676 it's situational. Usually while getting keys set up and before stm it's good to distract raiders from camping and if you kill Nappa or Zamasu while they're trying to camp that puts stress on them and then there comes the super time machine and gives time for a super dragon change and stresses the raider out.
Also. Vegeta loses a whole active skill and gets his ape cd increased so it's worth doing on stm but early? He just gets to go ape for free and wins the game because he has more time as level 3 to deal damage to survivors.
Zamasu? Killing him early is throwing the game. Zamasu is a safe heaven for the GB player because GB doesn't need Zamasu, and since they used their d-change to kill Zamasu you get a free level 3 as GB.. and by the time GB gets LV3 the whole team is in peril cuz GB snipe's you from two thousand meters away, probably no keys and Zamasu is back making it hard to plant and the team is effectively crippled. Basically never do this.
Ginyu force? The only character you can get away with killing is Guldo and you massively down Ginyus health by doing so as well as waste a good amount of time for STM.
You probably can't kill recoom because he's strong but if you can you're just making Ginyu get out faster.
You could try butter and juice (memes) during STM phase as they're not too strong and waste a good amount of time but early on you again lose the game for doing so.
The rules of the game are just the survivor is hunted not the hunter, but nobody said they couldn't fight back
In My own experience, A lot of survivors don't seem to understand that just because you can get away with killing an auto evolve raider doesn't always mean you should. I play Ginyu and I've had games where they jump me pretty early as Guldo and I die, however now I have a super early Recoome and it just lets me steamroll through the rest of the game because now since they used all their D Change on Guldo I can get a pretty easy level 3, so killing Guldo early into the match allows me to basically snowball into my level 3 super fast.
Kill thirsty survivors gotta go
That’s usually the case against solo lobby, but when you go against some premade, ginyu force can get crushed how do you say run
krillin shoe
solar flare
charming pose
power unleashed
You should already know what finishes to equipped the best and most powerful ones gulda can get one hit killed reccome will get stunned wide open to the rest of the team rinse and repeat and they now will have the 7 Dragon Ball and it’s actually Ggs by then, cause someone rolling Unconscious control and spamming dodge 😂😂😂😂
Mess with Nappa... you get a slappa!
nappa is gonna give you a nap
You slumber a cucumber
I feel like doing this, especially with Vegeta, so early in the match is just asking for trouble when his final transformation is tied to a timer
Killing Nappa makes his transformatiom timer longer, but this was still a throw. They should have at least waited until they had 3 keys.
"Vegeta look, it's a Pokemon"
Im gonna to catch It
@@pietrolupo2717"You have to damage it first"
I don't remember great ape being that easy to get. Usually its near impossible.
I usually end up saibamen someone off rip or know the civil spawn it's just making sure to get off nappa fast as possible before STM spawns in
I didnt area destruct after defeating the lvl 4 cause i wanted to be out that match fast as possible for how they were playing
@123viewer6 jaco ship change missile grapple and charming pose then the lvl 4 had UC
What does it mean "how they were playing"? That can mean a lot of things. You mean "being bad at playing"?
@@goncalocarneiro3043 i think he might mean that his opponents were just running skills that are really annoying to play against
I mean charming pose is just a stun no raider with a break strike skill on cooldown can do anything about and change missle + grapple makes a survivor almost never worth chasing
Getting a lot of mileage out of vegeta's extra dodge attack
oh no it's the vegeta technique
generally, killing a raider is a good idea if you can keep up with the raider, though. it allows you to actually end up defeating them before they have too much health to be stopped. against vegeta, it actually gives him the chance to go great ape, though.
Today i learned that get ape is on an active skill
I had similar morons go after Zamasu and I was just like "I'm gonna lose because my team are some dumbasses."
Since when did they throw in ranged stuns lol
Thats so stupid
Since S1 killin shoe
Bro said we don’t need the hood him off just until goku gets here
They should have expanded the story mode of this game and had an offline mode where you could chose to be a raider or a survivor and it would’ve been a great game
true, they could make AIs for the tutorial but couldn’t for offline play or practice mode?
I'd just leave if I was on a survivor team and they gave Vegeta the W that quickly.
By the way your one mistake was not deatroying area e to get the stm up and atop people from escaping
A friend already told me but I wanted to get out the match fast as possible for the way they were playing
@@darthrage8722You had Ape, the survivors lost their Level 4, and you still had a little more than half of your health left. You’d have to actually feed for you lose that match from then on.
@darthrage8722 so... instead of getting a clean win... you threw the last three cause you wanted out. That's retarded. You gotta go through so many survivor matched to get raider. And you threw a easy win.
@dukeofmars5711 dude who made this video sucked ass as a raider tbh. They threw the last three a free escape instead of destroying
@@renzou3276 read the comment explaining why I let them escape bro
I'd say the only good thing about getting vegeta is that you cant use nappa since hes dead
Theres only 2 times where i go sicko mode on vegeta raider and kill saibamen/nappa early.
1. Raider is super low level, meaning they dont know how to fight making running/hiding from them a breeze. Meaning were trying ro get him to ape to use the sword on them...
2. Trying to end the fight fast to get to my next raider fight faster...
Please note. I only do 2 if my party is bellow lvl 100.... Love playing surv. Hate carrying a low level party
@@Jamstaro1 carrying noobs is fun tho and challenging I love challenges
I don't get it, they killed nappa. They did good.
They killed him too early Is the problem I still got ape and they didn't find the key and they probably didn't have tpd
3:30-3:33-3:38
Victory for vegeta