Layering Basics
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
- This week Dan talks through a critical part of staying comfortable on the mountain; Layering.
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I know you talk about mountain riding. For us trail riders our arms get very cold and we end up with cramping sometimes because of it. As an avid chest protector wearer. My core can get very hot, but my arms out in the wind at speed get very cold. I really really wish Klim would produce something with minimal chest, insulation and extra insulation in the arms. I now you don’t deal with hi speed trail riding but with your affiliation with Klim perhaps you could pass it along.
I love klim but feel they have been not doing much for us trail riders. Especially us that ride in stupid cold temps like -20 without wind-chill.
I'm a trail rider and a Klim Ambassador that rides a few thousand miles per winter in the conditions you are referring to. (Maine). I don't know which jacket you are currently wearing that is giving you cold arms, but I'd recommend adding in the Klim Override Alloy for when the temps plummet. The entire back and underarms of the Override Alloy is designed to allow for a LOT of breathability across your back and underarms, but the chest and arms are fully insulated with 60grams of insulation. I never leave the cabin without my Override Alloy with me. I rode with it all weekend last winter when the temp was -30 below zero and never had any issues with my core (or arms) being cold whatsoever. In fact, it was so cold out - even electric gloves weren't quite warm enough to keep my hands warm. I HAD to wear the Caribou mittens!
@@bedlambikes that Override sounds good I’ll have to check it out. The override would be absolutely perfect if it didn’t have chest insulation. My main problem is with wearing chest protection (that I won’t ride without) . My core gets very hot.
@@snostm I wear a vest as well.
Not the regular Override but the Override Alloy. Yes it has 60 grams on the chest but the back is free from insulation. What jacket are you wearing?
@@bedlambikeswhat jacket do you wear in -30? Shell and layering? I just got the rift jacket for trail riding but wanting to switch to layering system with shell just haven’t met any one that’s done it up north here yet
* A note regarding the Klim Mammoth sock. For Winter 23/24 the Mammoth sock has been renamed to the Klim Aggressor 3.0. Same sock with a new name that coincides with with other layering pieces scaled out on a numbering scale from 1.0 - 2.0 and 3.0.
Love my klim ripsaw. 3 diffrent style of klim glove would love some base layers and klim helmet. Klim is the best and worth the money. The glove seams could use some work tho.
Buff / balaclava …. Lots of times I just pull the top of the balaclava back to around the neck only - lightweight one
What do you all wear for pants under a bib shell. Long John style and a sweat pant style?
Thanks for the video, but what I would have liked to see was more of a talk on what fabrics to use (and what not). You briefly mention (Merino) wool and polyester (and a no for cotton), but you don't really go into it, rather you just mention all the Klim stuff that is available.
Personally, I really like wool, but it is often too expensive. So I use polyester, or other synthetic, stuff. I do like to mix my layering materials, if I have the chance. For instance I would prefer to start with a polyester (or other 'technical' synthetic material, or even bamboo) sock, then a woolen sock over it. I sometimes have two different material base layers on as well.
Mid layers I like to wear, can range from a simple polyester (or synthetic blend) sports T-shirt (short sleeve) or jersey (long sleeve) to a thick fleece (which is also polyester) vest. I also have (but hardly use) thin fleece mid layer pants. (Doesn't Klim have fleece stuff, because you didn't show any.)
Anyway, I think the sort of material is more important than brand and knowing what that material does (moisture wicking or retaining, insulation, maybe even odor) helps in chosing your layers.
Howdy and thanks for watching. I think the point of the video….just like each of my videos is to educate and inspire people to look into things even deeper than what I cover. Your comment back to us is excellent and you are totally right about other specific materials that are “personal preferences”
Videos about gear can sometimes drag on for a while since there really is a ton of options out there. I learn from comments like yours and try and build from them as we forecast for future videos.
Thanks for sharing and ride safe!!!
I heard you mention havoc boots and the adrenalines. Is there certain scenarios where you chose one boot over the other? I have the havocs and love them but the new adrenaline’s look pretty sweet too. Thanks!
Honestly I love the Havocs too but the new Adrenaline boots just seem to work a bit better with my Mobius braces so that’s the route I went.
Thanks for watching!! 👊
The your videos are awesome. how do you schedule your classes I've tried calling
Hey bud our clinics have become all privates and are all returns from previous seasons. Each year we create a schedule we release it to our return clients and each year the schedule is booked. The phone calls and messages have been pretty overwhelming over the years so we apologize for not responding.
As we move forward we hope to provide more information on our site that explains what’s been happening.
Ride safe ✊
Good video as always man! Can you stack base layers? (Ie: merino blend +klim 1.0+klim 2.0) or would tight layers block sweat wicking?
As long as no cotton is involved, I don't see a huge problem in that approach. But I'd much prefer to wear a good mid-layer, or even 2 mid-layers -vs- 2 base layers in harnessing warmth.
@@bedlambikes I always find I sweat before I can take off my mid and then I get cold whenever I stop for lunch etc. anyway to stop that phenomenon? I feel my current base aren’t ‘wicking’ sweat as much as they should
@@nombr What are you running for a base layer, mid layer and shell? And what kind of riding do you do?
There's a ton a variables after taking in that information for starters. Also do you ever wash your shells? If they are getting older and not washed, they won't breath as well due to body oils and other substances blocking the pores from performing as well.
@@bedlambikes base is HH merino wool blend over that I go with 1.0 or 2.0 klim. If it is real cold I’ll throw my klim storm jacket I think it’s called on as a mid going up the trail (-20c)
I ride mountains, my outermost layer is a lochsa
@@bedlambikes I do yes, usually every month depending on how many rides I’ve gone on
What about options for the face!? Not a big fan of balaclavas or at least havent found one i love yet lol
Yeah I’m with ya. It has to be really cold for me to wear a balaclava but when it’s necessary I like the Arctic or the Glacier. Otherwise I just wear a buff or neck sock 👍
@@NextLevelRidingClinics same, unless its really cold i only wear one in the trails or going up chappel its like a 30km ride up. Thanks for the suggestions il have to give them a go!
Yo. Best socks in the world are Icebreaker. No need for 2 pair. Never fall down all day. Can't say that for Klim socks (although I never had 2 pair on).🤡🤡🤡🤡
Once polarass bought klim they went to cheap chinese shit i dare someone to argue with me
I'm not going to "argue" with you over it. However, while having a FACT based discussion, the expanded PTFE membrane under the brand name of Gore-Tex is identical. The choices in Thinsulate insulation sourcing is identical, face fabrics are identical, YKK zippers are identical, as well as other textiles that are used in sewing, taping, visibility, etc..are also all the same.
The only difference that came along after the investment by Polaris was the financial backing that allowed Klim to diversify the entire product line. This gave Klim the ability to introduce additional new products for the consumer. More gloves, more mid-layers, and so on.
Ok I get it but seriously simplify it please.
Your selling it I get it but most people go ride and realize they got too much on. You’re selling to your rich buddies and not average riders.
I ride and seriously don’t need half that shit.
Perfect…. happy you’ve got it all figured out. Funny that you think I have a bunch of rich buddies 🤣
I’m just trying to provide information about specific products that most people have an interest in.
Have a safe winter.
Thanks Dan for giving us your opinion on products we are looking at purchasing. Looking forward to getting out on the snow.