You opened with such a shitty pull, I immediately stopped the video. Your pulls are atrocious, you move too much, you miss abilities because you're out of range constantly, and you don't face the mob enough to make use of block or dodge.
Hey Mufti bears don't block and you're a Beast.....you can dodge from all sides... Also it's kind of hard to miss Thrashes with Luffa's which is what I was using here. And you're god damn right I move a lot. Are you doing +20s in time? Mechanics can be a bitch. The opening pull was perfect besides one Bolstering stack going onto the Mystic but they don't hit hard anyways. There was a lot of movement there because I was pushing the mobs out of Bolster range.
Always my go-to guy for bear stuff! Thanks for the amazing guide. I still have to set aside 30 mins to watch it, but I look forwards to improving after a little schooling. ;)
Solid guide dude! Keep up the good work. I've been main alting my guardian this xpac but I'm finally switching to main main! Thanks for the inspiration
Amazing guide!, note on Thrash relics, if you run luffas apparently theyre worth ~60 ilvls while 40 is without, i don't have a source on that but it was based on a discussion with some theorycrafters in the druid Discord channel a couple months ago Thank you for this guide, I'm fairly new to guardian but I enjoy quite a lot, I regularly use your gameplay as a template to improve so a good long video like this full of your thoughts is invaluable, really, please keep posting stuff, especially the live commentaries of dungeons they're a lot of fun :-D
VaineRox, Thank you so much! I post the videos with the commentary as much as I can, but is really only entertaining while playing with friends. I'm going to record my first run in Seat of the Triumvirate and if it's not embarassing I'll post it. Hopefully I'll have some friends on to run it with! Thank you so much for your continued support and I'll keep doing the best I can for ya. :D
Edit: Just to comment on why I say "I don't think Armor and Agility shouldn't be on the Stat Priority list;" this is because it's going to come naturally with upgrades. The only upgrades that you need to be really picky about are Rings and Necks because there is no Agility/Armor obviously. The Stamina from these pieces can be nice but doesn't take priority over Versatility/Mastery. This is why I'm 940 equipped and still wearing a 910 Neck and a 925 Ring because the stats are great!
Let's break 200 Likes on this one! Same thing as on my Artifact Challenge Guide: once we reach 200 Likes I'll pick someone to take through their +10 (or higher) for the week. Lower geared players and Alts will be welcome!
Awesome guide, thanks alot for making it!! I recently changed from feral to bear and this helped me alot, i didnt know about the versa food recipe haha
You're very welcome! :) Just in time for me to post another vid, so good timing. Versatility food has been my favorite since they nerfed Frenzied Regen in relation to our mastery. Let me know if you have any questions and give that Mage Tower a go if you haven't already :D
What a fast reply=) i did get the challenge skin last week, that's almost the main reason i went bear now. Feels so damn great to do PvP with the badass skin ;)
Thanks! Question, i just got a 940life relic from weekly chest, an Ironfur relic, but i already have a 920 thrash relic so its not best to switch it, am i right? (i have only 2 thrash relics atm)
Stay with Thrash fo sho! :D Make sure you check the 3rd row proc on that 940 in the Crucible to see if you got Thrash though because once you hit level 67 (I think) on your Artifact you'll be able to use it IF it has Thrash on the bottom row. :)
That's cool to hear, dude! I'm constantly looking for new ways to push it and it's been awesome to see how many other people want to do the same. I'm here for ya if you have any questions or concerns and be sure to stop by the Stream sometime to join the conversation! :D
Started leveling a bear about a month ago and am really enjoying it. Watched this guide then immediately subbed lol. In your opinion, having life things to do outside of wow, is playing an aggressive bear super gear dependent once I get to 110 or is it really just a playstyle? Any extra advice is definitely appreciated and I'll be looking forward to more vids! Thank you sir!
It's a play-style first and foremost, but is dependent on your gear as far as how much you can pull and/or live through. Obviously the more efficient you get with your Bear the better you will be at anticipating what you're going to have to do to stay alive; which should be your focus before DPS anyways. As I said in the video, the rotation is very straightforward so start with getting that down with CD management and then go from there! :D I'm here for you if you have any questions, but I put most of my thoughts and opinions in the video. Have a look at the Artifact Challenge Guide as well if you'd like. That's a great thing to do to really tighten up your CD management. XD
It's my pleasure! As I was saying to Malcolm Pink as well, starting tomorrow I will be doing this new week's affixes with a new set of gear. I've had the Tomb of Sargeras 4-set for a little while now and want to see how it's going to feel without it. I'll be dropping down to the 2-set for this week as is shown on my Armory page and we'll see how it goes! I need to know if I need to be farming Titanforged ToS Tier for Antorus anyways so this will be a good opportunity to try it out before the new raid is released. :D
I've been thinking lately of rolling a Guardian Druid. I know I have a 913 Enhance Shaman (worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/caelestrasz/daamos), but I like how resilient tanks can be, especially the bears. Any advice Nihilo? If it's worth it I'll consider getting a L100 boost (because screw leveling from 1-110 the old way, I wanna have fun sooner rather than later).
I would definitely recommend it! If you're not doing Mythic raids, this play-style is an extremely fun balance of survivability and damage output (in my opinion). The only niche is getting in sync with your DPS and Defensive CDs and you'll definitely see the rewards. :D
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I see and was jw since i looked at ur logs and we are pretty close on most bosses except like goroth and avatar I see a good 100k difference or so and jw if its the trinkets or what exactly that has u doing so much more dps than me since my vers is at a soild 26-30% unbuffed and mastery is 15%. so I am sure its not a stats error. . . Anyways be safe man and take care of yourself and you're wife! aand thanks for the awesome videos!!! ^_^
If anything, it's about staying active on your abilities and using CDs & Trinkets at the "best" times to maximize your output. As you can see in some of the 14s and 15s though, sometimes some improvisation is needed to make sure you stay alive to avoid a wipe. I'm really enjoying the Alchemist Stone and it procs quite often. I think the average rate that I heard was ~2-3 PPM (procs per minute) which is pretty awesome imo.
I'm sure with an incarn build you too make big pulls (when possible) every 3 minutes or so once its up, right? In line with this, the other thing I would recommend for high M+ doesn't have anything to do with bears themselves. Find out what CDs your group has and pull bigger groups around them. Pulling a big group when your Arcane mage, Elemental shaman or Arms warror have their CDs up is just as beneficial as pulling a big group when you have incarn up. (I name these three cause those are the ones I have personally run with a significant amount.) Not all classes have the ability to kill a lot of things as fast (ie rogue or sPriest). Good guide, I especially agree with the "maybe you should... umm, not suck" comment. This is basically how I've been playing my guardian all expansion.
Nihilo, Do you have tips for those that want to play aggressive bear but dont have the luffa or pants? I have the feet, chest, waist, and trinket leggo cause RNG hates me but I like trying to get my damage up there during Mythics and raids. Is there gear and leggo setup I can use in the mean time?
Actually, it's pretty much the same! The Legendaries almost only affect just DPS output. For an example: if you were to use the Chest and the Trinket (the Chest reducing damage taken plus the absorb from the trinket) this means that you can either tank more things at a time or tank through things that could kill you with less survivability allowing you to focus more on just putting out damage instead of holding onto the straight balance of surviving + damage output. A good place to start is making sure that you have 3 Thrash Relics (or at least an unlocked Thrash trait from the Crucible), a proper talent setup and sticking to the priority order; both of which i put in the guide. Everything that I put in this guide can apply to you with or without the Thrash Legendaries. With your current choices and in my opinion, I would use the Chest and the Trinket for the consistency. The Belt, however, is also really good for Skittish Mythic+ weeks so keep that in mind! Adding to that, I will put out some Mythic+ videos soon with me changing up my Legendaries to support the fact that you can still do a solid amount of DPS if you haven't been fortunate enough to get the Thrash Legendaries yet. Thank you for the post JackFrost3116 and stay tuned! :D
Thank you for Subbing and checking out my channel! Honestly though, for BiS trinkets, it's pretty much just going to be anything with a lot of Versatility, Mastery or Agility and is at a high item level (Titanforged of course). You want to avoid Stamina trinkets for anything below Mythic Raids as the absorbs tend to be quite low compared to the size of our Health pool and Versatility/Mastery are great stats for us (Umbral Moonglaives are one good example)! I say Agility as well for trinkets like the Feverish Carapace that has Agility and an Armor/Damage proc because it's a great balance and has a lot of Armor on the proc. (Mine's 950 so obviously I'm gonna use that XD).
I'm torn between 2 sets. I have ToS 4p @ itlvl 926 equipped. 9.3 mil hp. BUT if I break this 4p with high itlvl gears i can get up to 10.4mil with flask and mastery food. Was curious on any tips for this? I"m still rather new so still dont maximize my cd's the best. But was wondering what input you had? Preciate ya!
Justin White I have an answer for you! I recently dropped both of my ToS Tier bonuses to see how an Item Level build is working nowadays in the final leg of the expansion. I was afraid to drop them, but it's been working out very well so far! I'm 942 equipped at the moment and just hoarding all the stats that I can get my hands on. The Crucible is helping with that as well as i have 5 points in there so far so that's another 15 ilvls on my Artifact. You don't want to drop too much HP as some of the bosses in 15s are a bit rough with the recent Mythic+ buff, especially on Tyrannical. All in all, I'm happy with this build so far and I'm farming 10s to 13s this week because Tyrannical can be a bit hard for pugs. I did a +14 HoV today and Hyrja was hitting DPS and Heals for ~6 Mil or more 😅
Justin White I'm feeling like Versatility & Mastery can be prioritized if it's below a 15-20 ilvl upgrade. Can check my armory if you'd like to see the comfortable balance I found worth stats and ilvl.
to be honest incarnation felt superior for the Kruul challenge instead the galactic guardian talent. The eyes went down anyway with one hit. (was 907 ilvl when I did it)
I don't doubt it! I didn't change away from GG for my Artifact Challenge because I had started bashing my face against it before all the nerfs started happening, and the Eyes had a LOT more HP then. From what I've seen in more recent kills, I agree with you that Incarnation can be a good choice. :)
I did it fist on my DK before blood's damage was buffed.. (after 7.2) had hard time with the annihillation 'berserk', just didn't have enough dps, only perfect CC could help me. With the druid p2 felt like a joke, and actually p1 was the phase that was harder.
I’m always trying to do as much dps as possible on any runs I do, it’s better stuff dies faster and I chose all 3 crucible dps abilities and I love it! these days I’m rocking it out in 1st and 2nd place on the meter a very good place to be as a tank.
Nice! :D I've been playing with a new build that's actually outperforming the Thrash build on DPS and HPS. I'll be posting the Guide for it on Monday so stay tuned!
I don't have luffs yet I have the legs tho. I also have archdruid ring, ekowrath, the belt, and fake pally bubble necklace. Which should I use with the legs? Excited to try out agressive bear am currently using chest and ring but was thinking chest and legs for the crazy thrash range with balance affinity
For consistent buffs I would use Ekowraith and Elize's. The Ring is nice, but is hard to shine without Luffa's. Eko also buffing Thick Hide by ~4% is quite nice, especially if you have a decent amount of Versatility. I just got the second piece for my Upper Kara 2-Set last night and am excited to play with it. I'll be posting videos with that this week to see if it's actually worth farming for. :D
Nihilo OMG ty ty between ur video and another UA-camr I follow and ur aggressive gaurdian setup I finally beat mage tower I'm loving this setup aggressive gaurdian love that I can tank and push numbers and I wanted to say tybso much. Wouldn't have beat mage tower without ur help. Love my hulk harambear form
@nihilo I completely agree with the idea that tanks should be able to do solid dps. I play brewmaster and generally parse 90+ doing 500-650k single target dps. And one of the officers in my guild believes that tanks should just be tanks lol. I don't sacrifice survivability in anyway and people still flame.
Andrew Lawrence Usually it's because they've never played a tank, or at least the class that you're playing. I've been dealing with those flamers for a long time and my response has always been this: "Have a look at my personal progression and play my spec and then we can have a talk." Not like I'm doing anything super crazy, but sometimes you just gotta put the jealous DPS in their place XD
Nihilo haha yah I feel you, I pull off our dk all the time, and most of the people in my guild have never touched a monk or even played with one. They've asked me wayyyy to many times, if kegsmash taunts, like how many times do I have to say no lol. My personal opinion on threat and damage is, why should I have to limit myself and low my dps, which I believe is an asset to the raid. Instead of telling the other tank to do more they're telling me to do less :thinking:
Hey man if I have 4 piece but I have gotten nic epieces like 930+ 940+ gear should I rock those due to the armor and the stat on them are good and so should I rock Memento or my carapace with my moonglaives? as trinkets
Malcolm Pink What are the item levels on your memento and Carapace? And for breaking the 4 set, that's up to you, bro. Personally I'm going to wait to see what the tier bonuses for Antorus will release as and if they're shit, I'll be trying to farm Mythic ToS next patch. If you're going to be going up a huge amount of item levels, dropping the tier may be worth it 😀
Malcolm Pink Update: Since I didn't have a good answer before I'm starting to play with dropping my ToS 4-set for a couple of higher level pieces. Still keeping the 2-set for now, but I'll be running with just that for this new set of Affixes and I'll keep you posted 😀
my Memento is only 900 but carapace is 920 with a socket and I got rid of my tier pieces due to each upgrade I had was atleast a 20ilvl upgrade from my tier and got good to decent stats. and atm able to rock 24-25% vers wiith 15% mastery. and was also wondering why did u go incarn talent over GG now???.
I didn't start really using it until a few weeks ago, but Incarnation is much more useful for higher Mythic+ runs in my opinion. It can turn a lot of hard pulls into quick (mostly) painless pulls as you can see in some of my videos. :)
So would u recommend it for any level of mythic +'s or just for Higher keys like +10 and up? cause atm I am using GG since it has no cd and has multiple procs in a short time and spreads to other targets.
moonfire gives you -4% dmg. so during incarnation you still should re-apply it if you are fighting a boss 13:00 not really that much abilities. Mark of Ursol has been removed, and most of the time you'll use thrash.. and swipe/mf Don't get me wrong I still also love my harambear druid, but with DK I can do more edgy stuff, while druid is just a solid rock like tank. Yet both are fun to play.
Let me add a few things to that list: Thrash, Swipe, Moonfire yes...plus Maul, Mangle, Bash/Typhoon. If you're getting bored while Thrash and Mangle are on cooldown then you need more haste. The whole spec revolves around Thrash, Mangle and CD usage (damage & defensive) while choosing what to burn your rage on. You should never be bored pushing the DPS imo.
In my experience in Legion up to this point (mainly Mythic+ pushing and Heroic Raids), the best balance between putting out massive DPS and surviving through it has been with a Versatility/Mastery build. I've tried prioritizing Haste or Crit a bit more, but the overall damage, survivability and usefulness was below the Vers./Mastery build. The "Aggressive" terminology comes from the play-style with big DPS and big pulls as you can see in my many Mythic+ Videos ranging from +10s to +17s with all of the Affix combinations. Mythic Raid maximizing may be a different setup, but as I said here, twice, I don't do current tier Mythic raids and this guide may not be for you if that's what you're doing.
I wanted to add this: Haste>Crit>Vers>Mastery is the Stat priority for the Moonfire Build if i'm not mistaken which I'm not using atm because I don't have the Shoulders yet. As soon as I get them, I'll be giving it a go as I have quite a bit of gear ready for it including the Umbral Moonglaives.
Jack Vai I prefer Versatility over everything. I use more Mastery in Antorus for now but my stats are always changing with all of this new loot. Just keep a good amount of Versatility and you'll be fine
You opened with such a shitty pull, I immediately stopped the video. Your pulls are atrocious, you move too much, you miss abilities because you're out of range constantly, and you don't face the mob enough to make use of block or dodge.
Hey Mufti bears don't block and you're a Beast.....you can dodge from all sides... Also it's kind of hard to miss Thrashes with Luffa's which is what I was using here. And you're god damn right I move a lot. Are you doing +20s in time? Mechanics can be a bitch.
The opening pull was perfect besides one Bolstering stack going onto the Mystic but they don't hit hard anyways. There was a lot of movement there because I was pushing the mobs out of Bolster range.
Lol, and I forgot about Balance Affinity. With the Thrash wrists it's always been a meme. Same for Skull Bash, it's a 12+ yard range with Balance Aff.
Always my go-to guy for bear stuff! Thanks for the amazing guide. I still have to set aside 30 mins to watch it, but I look forwards to improving after a little schooling. ;)
Thanks for the great in depth guide, lots of useful stuff!
You are now adopted, as my Druid coach. Welcome to the family.
Just a tip btw. One of the first few quests on Argus has an 880 Life Thrash Relic so if you need one, you're in luck!
Solid guide dude! Keep up the good work. I've been main alting my guardian this xpac but I'm finally switching to main main! Thanks for the inspiration
Thank you very much, Dustin and you're very welcome! Be sure to hit that Subscribe button to stay tuned in for future guides and videos. :D
Amazing guide!, note on Thrash relics, if you run luffas apparently theyre worth ~60 ilvls while 40 is without, i don't have a source on that but it was based on a discussion with some theorycrafters in the druid Discord channel a couple months ago
Thank you for this guide, I'm fairly new to guardian but I enjoy quite a lot, I regularly use your gameplay as a template to improve so a good long video like this full of your thoughts is invaluable, really, please keep posting stuff, especially the live commentaries of dungeons they're a lot of fun :-D
VaineRox, Thank you so much! I post the videos with the commentary as much as I can, but is really only entertaining while playing with friends. I'm going to record my first run in Seat of the Triumvirate and if it's not embarassing I'll post it. Hopefully I'll have some friends on to run it with! Thank you so much for your continued support and I'll keep doing the best I can for ya. :D
Edit: Just to comment on why I say "I don't think Armor and Agility shouldn't be on the Stat Priority list;" this is because it's going to come naturally with upgrades. The only upgrades that you need to be really picky about are Rings and Necks because there is no Agility/Armor obviously. The Stamina from these pieces can be nice but doesn't take priority over Versatility/Mastery. This is why I'm 940 equipped and still wearing a 910 Neck and a 925 Ring because the stats are great!
"maybe you should not suck" lol, thank man, recently joined the bear gang, thanks for the vids
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You just made me create a druid :p Been playing dps for 1 year now! Awesome video :D
Haha! Good deal, man. Be sure to hit that Sub button for more to come! Thank you for watching :D
I sure did :D
Let's break 200 Likes on this one! Same thing as on my Artifact Challenge Guide: once we reach 200 Likes I'll pick someone to take through their +10 (or higher) for the week. Lower geared players and Alts will be welcome!
"..maybe you should.. umm not suck." LOL that slayed me
You are awsome keep doing what ya love
Awesome guide, thanks alot for making it!! I recently changed from feral to bear and this helped me alot, i didnt know about the versa food recipe haha
You're very welcome! :) Just in time for me to post another vid, so good timing. Versatility food has been my favorite since they nerfed Frenzied Regen in relation to our mastery. Let me know if you have any questions and give that Mage Tower a go if you haven't already :D
What a fast reply=) i did get the challenge skin last week, that's almost the main reason i went bear now. Feels so damn great to do PvP with the badass skin ;)
Nice, a BIG Gratz on that :) Gotta love it
Thanks! Question, i just got a 940life relic from weekly chest, an Ironfur relic, but i already have a 920 thrash relic so its not best to switch it, am i right? (i have only 2 thrash relics atm)
Stay with Thrash fo sho! :D Make sure you check the 3rd row proc on that 940 in the Crucible to see if you got Thrash though because once you hit level 67 (I think) on your Artifact you'll be able to use it IF it has Thrash on the bottom row. :)
Just started a druid tank. LvL 40 now and I find your guide very helpful since I am an agressive tank.
That's cool to hear, dude! I'm constantly looking for new ways to push it and it's been awesome to see how many other people want to do the same. I'm here for ya if you have any questions or concerns and be sure to stop by the Stream sometime to join the conversation! :D
Audio sounds great!
Started leveling a bear about a month ago and am really enjoying it. Watched this guide then immediately subbed lol. In your opinion, having life things to do outside of wow, is playing an aggressive bear super gear dependent once I get to 110 or is it really just a playstyle? Any extra advice is definitely appreciated and I'll be looking forward to more vids! Thank you sir!
It's a play-style first and foremost, but is dependent on your gear as far as how much you can pull and/or live through. Obviously the more efficient you get with your Bear the better you will be at anticipating what you're going to have to do to stay alive; which should be your focus before DPS anyways. As I said in the video, the rotation is very straightforward so start with getting that down with CD management and then go from there! :D I'm here for you if you have any questions, but I put most of my thoughts and opinions in the video. Have a look at the Artifact Challenge Guide as well if you'd like. That's a great thing to do to really tighten up your CD management. XD
Nihilo Thank you!
It's my pleasure! As I was saying to Malcolm Pink as well, starting tomorrow I will be doing this new week's affixes with a new set of gear. I've had the Tomb of Sargeras 4-set for a little while now and want to see how it's going to feel without it. I'll be dropping down to the 2-set for this week as is shown on my Armory page and we'll see how it goes! I need to know if I need to be farming Titanforged ToS Tier for Antorus anyways so this will be a good opportunity to try it out before the new raid is released. :D
You deserve WAY more subs dude 👍🏼
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I've been thinking lately of rolling a Guardian Druid. I know I have a 913 Enhance Shaman (worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/caelestrasz/daamos), but I like how resilient tanks can be, especially the bears. Any advice Nihilo?
If it's worth it I'll consider getting a L100 boost (because screw leveling from 1-110 the old way, I wanna have fun sooner rather than later).
I would definitely recommend it! If you're not doing Mythic raids, this play-style is an extremely fun balance of survivability and damage output (in my opinion). The only niche is getting in sync with your DPS and Defensive CDs and you'll definitely see the rewards. :D
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I see and was jw since i looked at ur logs and we are pretty close on most bosses except like goroth and avatar I see a good 100k difference or so and jw if its the trinkets or what exactly that has u doing so much more dps than me since my vers is at a soild 26-30% unbuffed and mastery is 15%. so I am sure its not a stats error. . . Anyways be safe man and take care of yourself and you're wife! aand thanks for the awesome videos!!! ^_^
If anything, it's about staying active on your abilities and using CDs & Trinkets at the "best" times to maximize your output. As you can see in some of the 14s and 15s though, sometimes some improvisation is needed to make sure you stay alive to avoid a wipe. I'm really enjoying the Alchemist Stone and it procs quite often. I think the average rate that I heard was ~2-3 PPM (procs per minute) which is pretty awesome imo.
cool vid! thanks for sharing. subbed.
I'm sure with an incarn build you too make big pulls (when possible) every 3 minutes or so once its up, right?
In line with this, the other thing I would recommend for high M+ doesn't have anything to do with bears themselves. Find out what CDs your group has and pull bigger groups around them. Pulling a big group when your Arcane mage, Elemental shaman or Arms warror have their CDs up is just as beneficial as pulling a big group when you have incarn up. (I name these three cause those are the ones I have personally run with a significant amount.) Not all classes have the ability to kill a lot of things as fast (ie rogue or sPriest).
Good guide, I especially agree with the "maybe you should... umm, not suck" comment. This is basically how I've been playing my guardian all expansion.
Nihilo, Do you have tips for those that want to play aggressive bear but dont have the luffa or pants? I have the feet, chest, waist, and trinket leggo cause RNG hates me but I like trying to get my damage up there during Mythics and raids. Is there gear and leggo setup I can use in the mean time?
Actually, it's pretty much the same! The Legendaries almost only affect just DPS output. For an example: if you were to use the Chest and the Trinket (the Chest reducing damage taken plus the absorb from the trinket) this means that you can either tank more things at a time or tank through things that could kill you with less survivability allowing you to focus more on just putting out damage instead of holding onto the straight balance of surviving + damage output.
A good place to start is making sure that you have 3 Thrash Relics (or at least an unlocked Thrash trait from the Crucible), a proper talent setup and sticking to the priority order; both of which i put in the guide. Everything that I put in this guide can apply to you with or without the Thrash Legendaries. With your current choices and in my opinion, I would use the Chest and the Trinket for the consistency. The Belt, however, is also really good for Skittish Mythic+ weeks so keep that in mind!
Adding to that, I will put out some Mythic+ videos soon with me changing up my Legendaries to support the fact that you can still do a solid amount of DPS if you haven't been fortunate enough to get the Thrash Legendaries yet.
Thank you for the post JackFrost3116 and stay tuned! :D
anyway, thx for the video...just getting started with druid tank...and i prefer an aggressive play style , doing as much damage as i can
Cool video.. I am a Bear myself and agree with a lot of the points you made, by the way. one question: How are you tanking in normal appearance?
What do you mean in normal appearance? :P
Nihillo I mean not in Bear form :P I saw sometimes you changed forms in the video while engaging in a fight or am I seeing things..
craik oh! That's from the Horn of Valor Trinket from Halls of Valor :)
can you provide any link with bis trinkets as of 7.3? survability/dps aswell for guardian, thanks and subbed :)
Thank you for Subbing and checking out my channel! Honestly though, for BiS trinkets, it's pretty much just going to be anything with a lot of Versatility, Mastery or Agility and is at a high item level (Titanforged of course). You want to avoid Stamina trinkets for anything below Mythic Raids as the absorbs tend to be quite low compared to the size of our Health pool and Versatility/Mastery are great stats for us (Umbral Moonglaives are one good example)! I say Agility as well for trinkets like the Feverish Carapace that has Agility and an Armor/Damage proc because it's a great balance and has a lot of Armor on the proc. (Mine's 950 so obviously I'm gonna use that XD).
I'm torn between 2 sets. I have ToS 4p @ itlvl 926 equipped. 9.3 mil hp. BUT if I break this 4p with high itlvl gears i can get up to 10.4mil with flask and mastery food. Was curious on any tips for this? I"m still rather new so still dont maximize my cd's the best. But was wondering what input you had? Preciate ya!
Justin White I have an answer for you! I recently dropped both of my ToS Tier bonuses to see how an Item Level build is working nowadays in the final leg of the expansion. I was afraid to drop them, but it's been working out very well so far! I'm 942 equipped at the moment and just hoarding all the stats that I can get my hands on.
The Crucible is helping with that as well as i have 5 points in there so far so that's another 15 ilvls on my Artifact. You don't want to drop too much HP as some of the bosses in 15s are a bit rough with the recent Mythic+ buff, especially on Tyrannical.
All in all, I'm happy with this build so far and I'm farming 10s to 13s this week because Tyrannical can be a bit hard for pugs. I did a +14 HoV today and Hyrja was hitting DPS and Heals for ~6 Mil or more 😅
Justin White I'm feeling like Versatility & Mastery can be prioritized if it's below a 15-20 ilvl upgrade. Can check my armory if you'd like to see the comfortable balance I found worth stats and ilvl.
Thanks a lot
Dont you miss the interrupt from Wild Charge? coming from other tanks i really like the shorter interrupt then just having mighty bash ...
You know what I really, really, really miss? Skull Bash interrupt AND Faerie Fire Interrupt/Silence XD. Those were the fkin days!
Nice guide
Thank you, Cron Cron! Keep an eye on the channel for more to come with the new set of dungeon buffs, Seat of the Triumvirate and Antorus.
to be honest incarnation felt superior for the Kruul challenge instead the galactic guardian talent. The eyes went down anyway with one hit. (was 907 ilvl when I did it)
I don't doubt it! I didn't change away from GG for my Artifact Challenge because I had started bashing my face against it before all the nerfs started happening, and the Eyes had a LOT more HP then. From what I've seen in more recent kills, I agree with you that Incarnation can be a good choice. :)
I did it fist on my DK before blood's damage was buffed.. (after 7.2) had hard time with the annihillation 'berserk', just didn't have enough dps, only perfect CC could help me.
With the druid p2 felt like a joke, and actually p1 was the phase that was harder.
my tank theory thus far is, hang with me...attack what i attack and we'll be fine...
Can't wait to go home 😁
Servers are going to be down for a little while anyways, bro. Usually, I end up sitting and waiting on these patch days :P
I’m always trying to do as much dps as possible on any runs I do, it’s better stuff dies faster and I chose all 3 crucible dps abilities and I love it! these days I’m rocking it out in 1st and 2nd place on the meter a very good place to be as a tank.
Nice! :D I've been playing with a new build that's actually outperforming the Thrash build on DPS and HPS. I'll be posting the Guide for it on Monday so stay tuned!
I don't have luffs yet I have the legs tho. I also have archdruid ring, ekowrath, the belt, and fake pally bubble necklace. Which should I use with the legs? Excited to try out agressive bear am currently using chest and ring but was thinking chest and legs for the crazy thrash range with balance affinity
For consistent buffs I would use Ekowraith and Elize's. The Ring is nice, but is hard to shine without Luffa's. Eko also buffing Thick Hide by ~4% is quite nice, especially if you have a decent amount of Versatility. I just got the second piece for my Upper Kara 2-Set last night and am excited to play with it. I'll be posting videos with that this week to see if it's actually worth farming for. :D
Nihilo OMG ty ty between ur video and another UA-camr I follow and ur aggressive gaurdian setup I finally beat mage tower I'm loving this setup aggressive gaurdian love that I can tank and push numbers and I wanted to say tybso much. Wouldn't have beat mage tower without ur help. Love my hulk harambear form
I'm really happy I was able to help! :D That's what I'm doing all this for. Be sure to stay tuned for more videos and streams to come!
New Galactic Guardian Druid Guide is up! Check it out here: ua-cam.com/video/N0uuq5qdfWs/v-deo.html
sorry about asking stupid questions, but how do you have that bad-ass bear shapeshift?
MisterJov It's not a stupid question! Mage Tower Artifact Challenge. I have Guides and a whole bunch of killa for the tank one if you need some help 😁
@nihilo I completely agree with the idea that tanks should be able to do solid dps. I play brewmaster and generally parse 90+ doing 500-650k single target dps. And one of the officers in my guild believes that tanks should just be tanks lol. I don't sacrifice survivability in anyway and people still flame.
Andrew Lawrence Usually it's because they've never played a tank, or at least the class that you're playing. I've been dealing with those flamers for a long time and my response has always been this: "Have a look at my personal progression and play my spec and then we can have a talk."
Not like I'm doing anything super crazy, but sometimes you just gotta put the jealous DPS in their place XD
Nihilo haha yah I feel you, I pull off our dk all the time, and most of the people in my guild have never touched a monk or even played with one. They've asked me wayyyy to many times, if kegsmash taunts, like how many times do I have to say no lol. My personal opinion on threat and damage is, why should I have to limit myself and low my dps, which I believe is an asset to the raid. Instead of telling the other tank to do more they're telling me to do less :thinking:
Nihilo also you earned a sub, gold video :)
Andrew Lawrence hence the comment in this video: "You need to relax!" With my response of: "Maybe you should...you know... not suck." XD
Nihilo Yah I chuckled when I heard that xD
yo wt is that addon that u use to put markers on adds? Thanks man
Leo Ferdinand Usually I just tab target and click the in-game stuff XD You just have to click on the edge of the party frame to expand it
i play aggressive protection paladin , its awesome how tank aggressive can be
Hey man if I have 4 piece but I have gotten nic epieces like 930+ 940+ gear should I rock those due to the armor and the stat on them are good and so should I rock Memento or my carapace with my moonglaives? as trinkets
Malcolm Pink What are the item levels on your memento and Carapace? And for breaking the 4 set, that's up to you, bro. Personally I'm going to wait to see what the tier bonuses for Antorus will release as and if they're shit, I'll be trying to farm Mythic ToS next patch. If you're going to be going up a huge amount of item levels, dropping the tier may be worth it 😀
Malcolm Pink Update: Since I didn't have a good answer before I'm starting to play with dropping my ToS 4-set for a couple of higher level pieces. Still keeping the 2-set for now, but I'll be running with just that for this new set of Affixes and I'll keep you posted 😀
my Memento is only 900 but carapace is 920 with a socket and I got rid of my tier pieces due to each upgrade I had was atleast a 20ilvl upgrade from my tier and got good to decent stats. and atm able to rock 24-25% vers wiith 15% mastery. and was also wondering why did u go incarn talent over GG now???.
I didn't start really using it until a few weeks ago, but Incarnation is much more useful for higher Mythic+ runs in my opinion. It can turn a lot of hard pulls into quick (mostly) painless pulls as you can see in some of my videos. :)
So would u recommend it for any level of mythic +'s or just for Higher keys like +10 and up? cause atm I am using GG since it has no cd and has multiple procs in a short time and spreads to other targets.
moonfire gives you -4% dmg. so during incarnation you still should re-apply it if you are fighting a boss
13:00 not really that much abilities. Mark of Ursol has been removed, and most of the time you'll use thrash.. and swipe/mf
Don't get me wrong I still also love my harambear druid, but with DK I can do more edgy stuff, while druid is just a solid rock like tank. Yet both are fun to play.
Let me add a few things to that list: Thrash, Swipe, Moonfire yes...plus Maul, Mangle, Bash/Typhoon. If you're getting bored while Thrash and Mangle are on cooldown then you need more haste. The whole spec revolves around Thrash, Mangle and CD usage (damage & defensive) while choosing what to burn your rage on. You should never be bored pushing the DPS imo.
aggressive guardian but you dont got haste > crit > vers > mastery :thinking:
In my experience in Legion up to this point (mainly Mythic+ pushing and Heroic Raids), the best balance between putting out massive DPS and surviving through it has been with a Versatility/Mastery build. I've tried prioritizing Haste or Crit a bit more, but the overall damage, survivability and usefulness was below the Vers./Mastery build. The "Aggressive" terminology comes from the play-style with big DPS and big pulls as you can see in my many Mythic+ Videos ranging from +10s to +17s with all of the Affix combinations.
Mythic Raid maximizing may be a different setup, but as I said here, twice, I don't do current tier Mythic raids and this guide may not be for you if that's what you're doing.
I wanted to add this: Haste>Crit>Vers>Mastery is the Stat priority for the Moonfire Build if i'm not mistaken which I'm not using atm because I don't have the Shoulders yet. As soon as I get them, I'll be giving it a go as I have quite a bit of gear ready for it including the Umbral Moonglaives.
your crit is over 20?...is that what you recommend?
Jack Vai I prefer Versatility over everything. I use more Mastery in Antorus for now but my stats are always changing with all of this new loot. Just keep a good amount of Versatility and you'll be fine
How can you be in that bear form?
Teemo it's from the Mage Tower Artifact Challenge which I have a couple Guides up for 😀
wish i had those legendaries... cant even come close to your dps :c
iCaptainUseless get your Artifact up there in traits, get concordance, 3 Thrash Relics and get the rotation down and you'll be pretty close! 😀
Im trynna lvl a bear rn
como se consigue esa forma de oso es un glifo o algo?
Reto de Artefactos
how the fck do u spaam thrash
Mikkel Laursen Incarnation talent Ability 😀
hate dps as tank >IF< it cost more surv