Jesus never said I am God in human form. This is story which created by Paul's doctrine taught by Churches. Many things that Christians believe in today never even said or preached by Jesus. Todays Christian is from the teaching of Paul. Christians should claim themselves as Paultian instead of Christian. Christians don't even have a single original text of Injil ( Bible) . Even the word bible is not from Jesus its all from Paul. As such how could one says bible is holy book when the author are Peter, Mathew,Luke and John.. Surprisingly non of them are Jesus disciples and no one knows in history who are the four Gentlemen . Christians are just following blindly a book and teaching of some Jokers..
@@PEH5806 Paul just simply shows the prophecy of the Torah full filled by Jesus And Jesus also said " I am here to fullfill the law and prophecies and not to condemn it" okay. 👍🏼?
@@kiwihans100 Perfect man does not say: Why you calling me good? Asked Jesus. Only God is one true God. So pls don't give your own assumption. Jesus said otherwise.
What Jesus meant when he said, "I AM": I Am the Bread of Life, I Am the Light of the World, I Am the Door of the Sheep, I Am the Good Shepherd, I Am the Resurrection and the Life, I Am the Way, the Truth & the life and I AM the True Vine
@@raymond.28 You're right...but also I missed only the "the life" in the second line before last, thinking at the time, it was already said in the line above that...and sounded like a repetition to write in the next line. But I now realized that I shouldn't have done that and I've corrected it now. Thank you!
70 Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?” So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.” 71 And they said, “What further testimony do we need? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth.” - Luke 22:70-71 NKJV
@@ri3m4nn Jews didn't believe jesus was the messiah. They question his age not a title. So jesus told them the truth that he existed before abraham. Jesus said he came down from heaven Those Jews were finding a way to get him arrested and killed What Jews said about jesus were completely wrong False teachers only focus on what Jews said cause they think the Jews must have been right We should focus on jesus words not the Jews
@@godlymike1070 I am that used in Torah and the bible was different word in their original text but forcefully translated as I am just to make it looks like the same..
@@PEH5806 Jesus spoke those words which is paleo-Hebrew, and Aramaic as in original text. Those translations are verbatim That's why its the same in all translations around the world, and they weren't forcefully translated. They were perfectly preserve.
no brother, he is not. ❤️ he is divine nonetheless. So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying 👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.) He was simply saying to them, "before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine. His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament: This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron. Be diligent, beloved. Behold! KJV: John 1:1 [1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Original Greek: In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity. This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what? 👇🏾 [Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation: 👇🏾 John 17:5 King James Version 5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿 [That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]: 👇🏾 Revelation 22:16 [16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and 👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿 [In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]: Job 38:4-7 [4]Where wast thou when I 👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; [7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and 👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿 shouted for joy? [Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which if the morningstars was He!]: 👇🏾 Luke 1:78-79 [78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. ⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38! Job 38: 12-15 [12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ] to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12] (notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 ) For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect. Carnal: Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire. Spirtual: THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
There is one more I AM when the soldiers went to arrest him. They said "are you Jesus of Nazareth?" He said I AM and they fall backwards in to the ground... Amazing... I m sorry for my poor English. I am a Greek.
Oh come on now how would you acknowledge that's ms your looking for without saying I am? I am has no meaning in the whole bible. There is no great I am . It's never applied as a title to almighty God
In John 8:58, the King James Version has Jesus saying "Before Abraham was, I AM", with the phrase "I AM" in capital letters as if he were using a title. But the Greek expression in this verse does not use capital letters and is very different from the Hebrew expression found in Exodus 3:14, where God says, according to most modern Bibles, "I will be what I will be." In John 8:58, Jesus was not using a title to refer to himself. Neither was he claiming to be Jehovah God. He was simply explaining his pre-human existence. Some Bibles correctly translate Jesus' words as "Before Abraham existed, I have been" or "I existed before Abraham was born."
You are 100% Correct , Trinitarians would Stone you to death for saying it . Thomas was a Jew, he knew who his God was , his Lord was Jesus and his god was YHWH David knew who is God was “ YHWH said to my Lord , Jesus , Sit at my right hand .” Psalm 110. The Lord Jesus was with the Father from the Beginning, The Trinity is from Satan to deny Almighty Gods Existence . Satan offered Jesus the whole world to get rid of God ,but Jesus turned him down
If he is on the same page as the father, then why does he ask things of the father, why would he need to ask for anything? Think of it like a corporate structure, the bottom employees (humans) never get to speak directly with the CEO (the father) they talk to middle management (Prophets)
It's simple really: When he took the form of mankind, he had to give up some of His Godship. After He rose from the dead, He would gain it back, but attaining the form of a human caused Christ to be in the state of a person: He had to Pray to the Father to keep His Spirit aligned with His, just like we have to do. Had Christ not, we would had no example to follow.
JESUS CHRIST IS ONE TRUE GOD THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISAAC AND JACOB KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORD'S ALMIGHTY GOD EVERLASTING FATHER PRIENCE OF PEACE THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS 🙏🙏🙏 THE GREAT I AM
Before Abraham was what? Born, or appointed a Father to a multitude? Before Abrahams was appointed a Father to a multitude, Abraham was taking his son to slaughter, then lied to issac as to who was being slaughtered..... God did not ask for the child, he asked for Abrahams alter ego, the one who made him laugh at God when told he would have a second child, it was his own understanding... Father of lies, pictured in his own mind a child sacrifice.... Jesus was Abrahams fruits, and he was glad to see the day!! And thats your understanding of a good Father!
Easy! Always go to the greek source. 😊❤ no brother, he is not GOD. ❤️ but He is divine nonetheless. So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying 👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.) He was simply saying to them, "before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine. His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament: This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron. Be diligent, beloved. Behold! KJV: John 1:1 [1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Original Greek: In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity. This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what? 👇🏾 [Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation: 👇🏾 John 17:5 King James Version 5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿 [That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]: 👇🏾 Revelation 22:16 [16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and 👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿 [In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]: Job 38:4-7 [4]Where wast thou when I 👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; [7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and 👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿 shouted for joy? [Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which one of the morningstars was He!]: 👇🏾 Luke 1:78-79 [78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. ⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38! Job 38: 12-15 [12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ] to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12] (notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 ) For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect. Carnal: Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire. Spirtual: THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
You must be a trinitrian. Did you know that Babylon had trinities of God's too and they were pagans. So is your belief too. And in Revelation it says God is going to destroy Babylon the Great. Do you know what Babylon the Great is?? It's false worship. Yahweh/Jehovah/Yod-He-Waw-He/Yehovah/Yehowah, whatever you want to call him, he is God Almighty, not Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God and Isaiah 9:6 says that Jesus was to be a Mighty God. And 10:21 in the same book says only a remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob to the Mighty God. That scripture lines up perfectly with Luke 1:33,34 and when or if you read it, you'll see that someone else is giving Jesus the throne. That someone else is God Almighty Jehovah or all those other name's I mentioned previously. Jesus is not God Almighty, he's a Mighty God and theres a difference between the two. Mighty means powerful and strong. Almighty means absolute power and no equal. If I was God Almighty, the most powerful entity in the universe, and you were my son what would that make you??? Answer; a Mighty God
@lukeC22V42 1 Corinthians 8:5,6 "For even though there are many God's and many Lord's, to us there is only one God, the Father." I'm not saying it. The Bible does. And that Father is Jehovah or Yahweh or Yod-He-Waw-He or Yehovah or even Yehowah whatever you wanna call him, I just know it ain't Jesus because Jesus on Hebrew is Yeshua and Yeshua without the vowels is YSH NOT YHWH. And Exodus 6:3 says "I appeared unto Abraham, Issac and Jacob as God Almighty but by my name Jehovah was I not known. So how many God Almighty's do we have???
1:56 Jesus is equal to father???but in the bible mark 13:32 said they are not equal.this guy is so confusing😳 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.(mark13:32)
Paul explains the voluntary veiling of Jesus’ power and glory when He came in the form of man. Certain aspects of His divinity were held back. If they weren’t, He would not have died for us. Think of it like this: If you are not blind, but wear a blind fold voluntarily, you are veiling your eyesight. Such is the same when Jesus came in the form of man. At that time, He humbled Himself and submitted to The Father, as an example of how we should live. As a man, He was lower in authority and glory and power. But this was a voluntary action that needed to be done so that He could conquer death and sin. So when He says He does not know something, it is only at that time, since He is voluntarily withholding His power. In fact, many of the works He does are because of the Holy Spirit within Him.
@@KamiNoRanger99Yes!! Twist the scriptures to fit your doctrine Kamen. And tell your lies to other so that they believe too. Very Good Son of Satan. Your father will be proud of you. NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES JESUS EVER SAY HE'S GOD AND 3 ARE 1 IS PAGANISM. BABYLON HAD TRINITIES OF GOD'S TOO AND YOU SEE HOW GOD DEALT WITH THEM AND THAT'S ALSO WHY GOD IS GOING TO WIPE OUT BABYLON THE GREAT IN REVELATION. BECAUSE THATS WHAT BABYLON THE GREAT IS, ITS FALSE WORSHIP. GOD IS JEHOVAH. NOT JESUS JESUS IS A MIGHTY GOD JUST AS ISAIAH SAID HE WOULD BE BUT JEHOVAH IS GOD ALMIGHTY. AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. ALMIGHTY MEANS ABSOLUTE POWER AND NO EQUAL. MIGHTY MEANS POWERFUL AND STRONG. AND JEHOVAH'S OWN SPIRIT IS HIS OWN. BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND KEEP TWISTING THE SCRIPTURES AND LEADING OTHERS DOWN THE WRONG PATH. THERE WILL BE A HEAVIER JUDGEMENT FOR THOSE THAT TEACH. AND WHAT YOUR TEACHING IS WRONG KAMEN
Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58 do not express the same thought We know that they do not because at Exodus 3:14 the Greek Septuagint Version (the translation that was often quoted by the apostles in the first century C.E.) reads, e•goʹ ei•miʹ ho Ohnʹ, “I am the Being.” This is quite different from the simple use of the words e•goʹ ei•miʹ (I am) at John 8:58. The verb ei•miʹ, at John 8:58, is evidently in the historical present, as Jesus was speaking about himself in relation to Abraham’s past. Numerous translators indicate this in their renderings. For example, An American Translation reads: “I existed before Abraham was born!” Not once, however, does the Bible state that Jesus is coeternal with God. Though Jesus enjoyed a prehuman existence of unspecified length in heaven, the Bible shows that he had a beginning of existence. He is called “the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation” and “the beginning [Greek, arké] of God’s creation.”-Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14. The very fact that Jesus is called the “Son of God” reveals that he was produced by the Father and is, therefore, his firstborn and only-begotten Son. Jesus himself said: “I live because of the Father.” (John 6:57) After having come into existence, the Son was used in creating everything. (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17; Heb. 1:2) As firstborn Son, this one enjoyed a special intimacy with the Father. He is spoken of in Scripture as being “in the bosom position with the Father.”-John 1:18. At John 8:58, once again the King James Version has Jesus using the expression “I am” in connection with himself, saying, “Before Abraham was, I am.” But here the expression is quite different from the one used at Exodus 3:14. Jesus did not use it as a name or title but simply as a means of explaining his prehuman existence. Thus, according to the New World Translation, the more correct rendering of John 8:58 is: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” Clearly, no Scriptural basis exists for the claim that Jesus is the same as Jehovah of the Hebrew Scriptures. Even the teacher’s manual previously quoted admits: “That Christ existed before His birth in Bethlehem does not in itself prove He was God (He could have existed as an angel).” In fact, this is what the Bible teaches. In his prehuman existence, Jesus was “a god,” or divine one, but not the God, the almighty God Jehovah.-John 1:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
That means Praise Jah or in Hebrew Yah. Take a look at that spelling Yah. Jesus' name was Yeshua so if you shortened his name it would be Yeh not Yah so this means that Yah is someone else and that someone else is Yehowah or as you know it Yahweh. YHWH. So yes Hallelujah Praise Jah!!
Read John 14:6-10 In this paragraph Jesus said If you've seen me you've seen the father, then the apostle Philip asked him to show them The Father and it'll be enough, as in enough proof. Jesus responded, "Have I been with you for so long at a time and you still do not know ME Philip?" Continue to read the rest of that chapter as Jesus explains more that he IS the father! 🙌
While there is no doubt that there is relationship between Jesus saying “I am” to Exodus 3, I don’t think the relationship is as direct as you make it sound to be. Exodus use “eh weh” for “I am” While Isaiah uses “ani hu” for “I am he” for instance in Isaiah 41. The Septuagint translates eh weh as “ho on” while ani hu (I am he) is translated as “ego eimi” (note the word He in greek cannot be translated in this context) John uses the word ego eimi which has more direct connection to Isaiah. But of course, since Isaiah’s use of the word I am has relationship to Exodus, the indirect relationship still stands. I understand the point of the video is to be brief, but a footnote would be nice.
if you believe that in the john 8 verse 56-58 said that jessu is god you are wrong because in the old testament "I am" refers to god the father and another thing i need to say that if you change the word "I am " with God,then you realize that new testament say before abraham was god because " I am " means in your understaing is God.Thats why Don't think jessu was god.But if you go john 17 verse 3 you clearly see that jessu actually said the only true god is father.Thanks
I Am the Alpha and Omega The Beginning and the End (Revelation 1) I Am the Bread of Life, I Am the Light of the World, I Am the Door of the Sheep, I Am the Good Shepherd, I Am the Resurrection and the Life, I Am the Way, the Truth & the life and I AM the True Vine
@@AstariahJW Jesus said to john, " Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children."(Revelation 21:7)
@@delicionmichael3992 jesus said we are brothers of him You cant be brothers plus be children of God so the speaker in that verse is the father Jehovah God not jesus
I-A-MAN true spiritual man whom God made in His Image and likeness The I AM is the metaphysical name of the spiritual self, as distinguished from the human self. One is governed by Spirit, the other by personal will. Christ and Yahuah are the scriptural names for spiritual I AM. Yashua called it the Father. I AM is eternal, without beginning or ending: YAHUA THE FATHER THE CREATOR + YASHUA THE SON THE SAVIOR= YAHUSHUA 1. Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father and then we will be satisfied.” Jahushua said to him, “Have I been with you for so long a time, and you do not know ! 2. Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need.” Jahushua answered, “I have been with you a long time now. Do you still not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. 3. Yahushua said he is the way to the father. And the only way 4. Yahuah is the ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE ETERNAL WITHOUT BEGINING AND ENDING
No he wasn't, he meant before Abraham existed I existed. The context of the conversation was about Age not Divinity or claiming to be the Almighty God.
@@metalrocker627 No they are not, Jesus is one with the Father because he is the Son of God, made in his image, sent to do his will. By your logic husband and wife are also the same being correct seeing as how they are one.
@@metalrocker627 How is it a terrible comparison when both verses state "they are One" so if you claim Jesus is God that also means a Husband and Wife are also One being you can't throw your logic out the window when it doesn't fit your agenda. Also yes Jesus is a god but he is not The God, he was given power, authority and divinity by his Father thus they cannot be equal or the same being. Jesus was created...last time I checked God has no creation, Jesus was tempted last time I checked God doesn't get tempted, Jesus died last time I checked God cannot die etc. In scripture when asked directly who he is Jesus clearly stated he is the Son of God every time.
no brother, he is not. ❤️ he is divine nonetheless. So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying 👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.) He was simply saying to them, "before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine. His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament: This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron. Be diligent, beloved. Behold! KJV: John 1:1 [1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Original Greek: In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity. This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what? 👇🏾 [Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation: 👇🏾 John 17:5 King James Version 5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿 [That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]: 👇🏾 Revelation 22:16 [16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and 👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿 [In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]: Job 38:4-7 [4]Where wast thou when I 👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; [7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and 👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿 shouted for joy? [Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which if the morningstars was He!]: 👇🏾 Luke 1:78-79 [78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. ⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38! Job 38: 12-15 [12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ] to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12] (notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 ) For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect. Carnal: Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire. Spirtual: THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
Blind leading the blind! The blind man in John 9 says “I am” or “ego eimi”. The exact same phrase as Jesus! Is the blind man claiming to be God? Do people try to stone him for blasphemy? Furthermore, when Moses asked God what His name is… the whole answer isn’t in Exodus 3:14. The answer carries over into verse 15 as well, where God tells Moses His actual name (the Tetragrammaton). It’s just translated in English as “Lord God” or “LORD”. And what does God say in verse 15 after telling Moses His name (the Tetragrammaton)??? God says “this is my name for ever”.
The I AM in Exodus 3:14 is God the Father Almighty. But the I AM in John 8:58 is not a direct quote of the Lord Jesus to refer to God. Because Paul did not mean the same I AM in Exodus when he talked about himself in 1 Cor.15:10. Based on Greek words: I AM (Exodus 3:14) - eh-yeh a-ser eh-yeh I am (John 8:58) - ego eimi I am what I am (1 Cor. 15:10) - eimi ho eimi Based on these Greek words, John 8:58 and 1 Cor.15:10 refer to a common man's identity (here the human identity of Paul and Jesus). It is only Exodus 3:14 that refers to I AM as the title of God the Almighty revealed to Moses. Therefore, it is clear that Jesus is not referring to Himself as the I AM (God) when He said, "Before Abraham was, I am." What many confidently believe as Jesus declaring Himself as God by using John 8:58 is blatantly an error.
As far as John 1:1 first of all its talking of two people not three, the holy spirit is out, second the way it reads in the original Greek Scripture (John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with (the) God, and the Word was god. The reason that I typed up the word (The) before the second God was because in the original Greek Scriptures the definite article is always used before the word God when it is referring to Jehovah God almighty it literally reads "the word was with (Ho Theos), and when you get to the last part of the sentence, it's no longer referring to God Jehovah, because the definite article Greek word (Ho) (the) is no longer there before the word god. Again the last section," and the word was (a) god in this case the word "a" is considered an indefinite article. The indefinite article as we know it, is the letter (a) and it was nonexistent in the original (KOINE) Greek language, so you are probably asking yourself, well if the indefinite article, which is the letter "a" was not existent in the original Greek, why does the New World translation use it at John 1:1? for the same reason that every other non Jehovah's witness translation uses it in other texts, as for example Paul wrote (Acts 28:6) But they were expecting him to swell up or suddenly to drop dead. After they waited for a long time and saw that nothing bad happened to him, they changed their mind and began saying he was a god.::::::::: you see the last part of the scripture of Acts 28:6, The indefinite article letter "a" should not be in any bible translation even yours, but it will be there because it obvious that the people that witnesses the snake bite on Paul, and saw that he recovered would have never thought that he was a god, they knew he was merely a man. So it okay for the new world translation to have added the word "a" to the John 1:1 considering it not in the original Greek, well for our modern times it is proper to use it, as all other translations also use it including your bible, but only if the whole context and chapter finds it suitable. based on the subject being considered as for example John Chapter 1, Verse 18 says "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him. So Jesus is either God or he is not, he cannot be in the middle, and clearly he is not God Because John 1:18 clearly says that "No man has seen God at any time" and there are many more scriptures throughout the bible that support Jesus as the son of God, and not God himself. If for some reason you did not understand it with this explanation I can find an easier way to explain it.
@@ryancarver585 these do. But these are organized and broken down properly. ❤ no brother, he is not GOD. ❤️ but He is divine nonetheless. So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying 👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.) He was simply saying to them, "before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine. His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament: This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron. Be diligent, beloved. Behold! KJV: John 1:1 [1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Original Greek: In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity. This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what? 👇🏾 [Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation: 👇🏾 John 17:5 King James Version 5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿 [That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]: 👇🏾 Revelation 22:16 [16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and 👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿 [In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]: Job 38:4-7 [4]Where wast thou when I 👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; [7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and 👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿 shouted for joy? [Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which one of the morningstars was He!]: 👇🏾 Luke 1:78-79 [78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. ⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38! Job 38: 12-15 [12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ] to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12] (notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 ) For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect. Carnal: Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire. Spirtual: THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
@SheepOfChrist818 WRONG ! You just incerted your own personal interpretation into the text, which says the complete opposite of what you stated. Even while Jesus himself was alive, according to John 4:24 , he said "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." Proverbs 30:6 "Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. "
For me: "I am" Means He is what he is, He can do anything he wants!. Like he can do to make a planet, he can make water, he can make animals, he is everything in his power, He can die and alive again, he can multiply trees, he can be born to a human but with God powered himself,. If you can't think that the world will not change then your knowledge is limited. Don't put God's ideas into the size of a human brain's to your ancestors (will not fit) where God himself is so huge and powerful.
As a Bible believing Christian, I must tell everyone here that the confused man in this video is lying to you. There is no such thing as a triune god. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is NOT a god called "God the Son", and there is NO ONE who "existed eternally with God". Please, read the scriptures, people. In English, the scriptures are preserved for us in the Holy Bible, King James Version. It is written, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time." 1 Timothy 2:5,6 One God and one man are not a trinity of divine persons. Amen.
You're lying firstly the I AM statement is in greek which is Eigo Eimi, secondly the Hebrew Eyeh asher Eyeh is not I am but I will be, thirdly the Greek Septuagint for the I am statement in Exodus 3:14 is not Eigo Eimi but Ho-On that sent Moses, which being translated is the One being sent not I am, So in full neither the Septuagint which is GREEK old testament nor the Hebrew Maseretic texts translated by the JEWS themselves who know their own language agree with the Trinitarian misrepresentation of the I AM and the rest of the scripture as you guys use it to your own destruction as Peter said in 2 Peter 3:15-17 ... Want to debate the Trinity? (Bonus note: The reason that it says before ABRAHAM i am because he is talking of being the first born from the dead the new creation, he is the first resurrection which is before Abraham see Colossians 1:15-18 and Romans 8:29)
@@misterauctor7353who or what is LXX?? I disagree with them. The Hebrew word when translated is To Be. Just because someone agrees with something doesnt make it or them right . Everyone has an opinion and opinions vary widely. If you truly want to know what is at 3:14 then ask a Jewish friend to translate what's being said in the Hebrew wording. He'll tell you that it isn't I am. I know because i have a friend straight from Israel. And he knows this scripture well. It's To Be.
Exodus God said Eh Yeh Aser Eh Yeh.. Jesus said Ego Eim. There is a big difference. If you read John 8 in context Jesus was saying He was the chosen one before the creation of this world, just like Jeremiah 1:5, that God said he knew him before this world. Also John 1 clearly contradicts Genesis 1. I have came to the conclusion long ago that the bible is not divine, its a man made book full of mistakes and contradictions.
My friend, you are comparing two different languages. I would refer you to read Philippians 2, it shows how ignorant it is to think that Jesus is just a man and did not eternally existed. You are saying that the bible is a man made book with errors, yet you are using verses from it to prove a point? this to me sounds like a Muslim logic.
@@ish9455 yes the bible is man made. And I'm using it to prove that it's full of contridictions and mistakes. You only have to be sincere to yourself to know that.
@@ish9455 by the way I have benefited much from professor Bart Ehrman. I suggest you read his papers. He is a professor who studied manuscripts. Don't be blind by the church, follow the facts
Jesus states himself he was the beginning of GOD'S creation,as u state Jesus states he is the shepherd so who is the gate keeper,GOD let's his name known in Exodus stating his personal name is YHWH and that is his name for all generations he doesn't state ah later I will change it to Jesus,only the blind deaf and dumb believe in the false teaching of the pagan Trinity,Jesus states himself no one is greater than the Father not even I. Doesn't the doctrine of the Trinity teach the are all co equal with each other,c this is a false doctrine Jesus states ONLY the father knows that day and the hour,this can't get much simpler that that
This is just the worst exegesis of John 8:58 I’ve ever seen. And it’s repeated over and over again without question. However, this explanation completely ignores all the relevant context and the previous two “I am/ego eimi” statements of Jesus in verses 24 and 28. The Jews didn’t try to stone him then so why did they in verse 58? I have a whole video on this topic that discusses the context in it’s entirety and clearly shows why it was Jesus claim to be greater than Abraham that illicit the Jews to pick up stones to kill him. The video is entitled John 8: A Reading.
Jesus didnt say. The kingdom of god is ,,within you,,, Jesus said,, the kingdom of god is ,,, amoung you,,,refering as a metafore to himself being the kingdom of god. After all ,, jesus is the King of the Kingdom!
@@user-kk2uf5du7j the covenant? I mean before abraham was Adam. Adam was the first human being ever made. If the reason for jesus being Incarnated is because to break the curse if sin Adam brought by disobedience by eating the fruit which he shouldn't have eaten. I was assuming what he ment was he is Adam. If son of God theory exist Adam could fit the picture of som of God. Isn't the main enemy of Adam and humanity the devil? Makes sense? This teaching that Adam is so insignificant is horrendous. I rather believe in the father of all human beings than a person born into the world.
Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58 do not express the same thought We know that they do not because at Exodus 3:14 the Greek Septuagint Version (the translation that was often quoted by the apostles in the first century C.E.) reads, e•goʹ ei•miʹ ho Ohnʹ, “I am the Being.” This is quite different from the simple use of the words e•goʹ ei•miʹ (I am) at John 8:58. The verb ei•miʹ, at John 8:58, is evidently in the historical present, as Jesus was speaking about himself in relation to Abraham’s past. Numerous translators indicate this in their renderings. For example, An American Translation reads: “I existed before Abraham was born!” Not once, however, does the Bible state that Jesus is coeternal with God. Though Jesus enjoyed a prehuman existence of unspecified length in heaven, the Bible shows that he had a beginning of existence. He is called “the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation” and “the beginning [Greek, arké] of God’s creation.”-Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14. The very fact that Jesus is called the “Son of God” reveals that he was produced by the Father and is, therefore, his firstborn and only-begotten Son. Jesus himself said: “I live because of the Father.” (John 6:57) After having come into existence, the Son was used in creating everything. (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17; Heb. 1:2) As firstborn Son, this one enjoyed a special intimacy with the Father. He is spoken of in Scripture as being “in the bosom position with the Father.”-John 1:18. At John 8:58, once again the King James Version has Jesus using the expression “I am” in connection with himself, saying, “Before Abraham was, I am.” But here the expression is quite different from the one used at Exodus 3:14. Jesus did not use it as a name or title but simply as a means of explaining his prehuman existence. Thus, according to the New World Translation, the more correct rendering of John 8:58 is: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” Clearly, no Scriptural basis exists for the claim that Jesus is the same as Jehovah of the Hebrew Scriptures. Even the teacher’s manual previously quoted admits: “That Christ existed before His birth in Bethlehem does not in itself prove He was God (He could have existed as an angel).” In fact, this is what the Bible teaches. In his prehuman existence, Jesus was “a god,” or divine one, but not the God, the almighty God Jehovah.-John 1:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
no . ❤️ but He is divine nonetheless. So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying 👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.) He was simply saying to them, "before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine. His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament: This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron. Be diligent, beloved. Behold! KJV: John 1:1 [1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Original Greek: In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity. This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what? 👇🏾 [Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation: 👇🏾 John 17:5 King James Version 5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿 [That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]: 👇🏾 Revelation 22:16 [16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and 👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿 [In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]: Job 38:4-7 [4]Where wast thou when I 👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; [7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and 👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿 shouted for joy? [Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which one of the morningstars was He!]: 👇🏾 Luke 1:78-79 [78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. ⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38! Job 38: 12-15 [12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ] to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12] (notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 ) For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect. Carnal: Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire. Spirtual: THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
If Jesus is God...then WHY DO YOU ALL SAY HE IS "SECOND PERSON OF THE TRINITY"? HEAR OH ISRAEL, THE LORD YOUR GOD, THE LORD ONE IS. If Jesus is God as the vessel, then, it simoly means He is the same, not another persone. ONE and ONLY
You are steering people in the wrong direction towards the counterfeit jesus. In the Gospels Jesus used the term “Son of Man 102 times, the term “Son of God” was used 76 times { 65 times by Jesus }, Jesus proclaimed that God was his father 54 times. Explain that in a video. Either you are wrong or Jesus had multiple personality disorder. I pray God the Father shows you the truth
Hello Jesus is the Messiah The Son of God The Son of David The Son of man The man God has chosen to be his anointed king The man God will judge the world through The man God raised from the dead Jesus has a God There is no triune god in scripture Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. -
My dear friend, The bible refers to The father as God, Jesus as God and the holy spirit as God, yet the bible teaches there is ONLY one God, this is a clear representation of the trinity. Did Jesus have a God? yes indeed because he was fully MAN and fully GOD, he had two natures and it was totally normal for him to refer to his God in his human nature. Is the father the only true God? Yes indeed "The only true God" here refers to the one nature of God, The father, the Son and the Holy Spirit have the same ONE nature, yet they are three distinct persons (Not distinct Gods). The trinity teaches there is only ONE true nature of God, three distinct persons. - The father is God: John 20:17 - Jesus is God: John 1:1 - Jesus and the father have the same one nature: John 10:30 & John 14:9 - Jesus is fully man: 1 Timothy 2:5 - The holy spirit is God: Genesis 1:2 - There is only one God: Deuteronomy 6:4 & Isaiah 43:10 I hope this helps, God bless.
@@ish9455 Hello Nowhere in scripture do you find Jesus is “fully God and fully man” That’s not biblical Came in around 451 AD And nowhere do you see anyone talking to “a divine nature” Jesus isn’t praying to a “divine nature” in John 17 Are you able to tell me who Jesus’s God is? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
@@mitchellc4 I showed you where the bible portrays the divinity and humanity of Jesus Christ, if you read Philippians 2, it shows you how Christ having the nature of God humbled himself and became flesh to become like us, worship God the father, live, die and then rise from the dead for our redemption. If are talking about the council of Nicaea by mentioning 451 AD, this is one of the weakest arguments used to deny the divinity of Jesus and it is used especially by Muslims, the myth that early Christians did not believe in the divinity of Jesus until they made it up in the council of Nicaea. but this is completely false as early Christians believed in the divinity of Jesus but the reason the council of Nicaea was organised and the Nicene Creed was created was because of a heresy that Arianism came up with about Jesus Christ being a created being before incarnation which is completely against the bible, therefore, the bishops had to create the Nicene Creed to avoid confusion and refute Arianism. The God of the man Jesus Christ is God the father, the father of all who is of the same essence as the Son, so in John 17, Jesus wasn't talking to himself, he was talking to the father who is a distinct person from the Son but is of the same one being/nature as the Son. Read revelation 5 and you will see how the Son is worshiped with the Father, how can the Son be worshiped if he is not God? our God will not allow his people to worship anyone but him. Exodus 34:14 - For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. It is hard to deny the divinity of Jesus Christ as he did things only God can do, forgiving sins (Matthew 9:2), raising the dead (John 11:38-44) even raising himself (John 2:19), being the creator of heavens and earth (John 1:3, Hebrews 1) and many other countless things. You are bringing up verses that refer to Jesus Christ in his exalted human nature, a heresy would to deny the divinity and the humanity of Jesus Christ. You believe in a Christ that cannot save you, a created being cannot save you, only God can.
@@ish9455 Hello Ish You said “the God of the man Jesus Christ is God the Father” So Jesus’s God isn’t a trinity Jesus isn’t a trinitarian Why would we have a different God than Jesus has? That also makes two Gods The God of Jesus (not a trinity) And The trinity You can’t claim the one true God is a trinity then say Jesus’s God isn’t a trinity That means Jesus is worshipping a different God??
@@ish9455 if Jesus is god, than why when he was dying on the cross he cried out My god My god why have you forsaken me? this clearly shows Jesus is not god, he did not say my father why you forsaken me. Now the idea of 3 in 1 did not come into Christian belief until council of nicaea 300 years after Jesus. This is a fact from history
Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58 do not express the same thought We know that they do not because at Exodus 3:14 the Greek Septuagint Version (the translation that was often quoted by the apostles in the first century C.E.) reads, e•goʹ ei•miʹ ho Ohnʹ, “I am the Being.” This is quite different from the simple use of the words e•goʹ ei•miʹ (I am) at John 8:58. The verb ei•miʹ, at John 8:58, is evidently in the historical present, as Jesus was speaking about himself in relation to Abraham’s past. Numerous translators indicate this in their renderings. For example, An American Translation reads: “I existed before Abraham was born!” Not once, however, does the Bible state that Jesus is coeternal with God. Though Jesus enjoyed a prehuman existence of unspecified length in heaven, the Bible shows that he had a beginning of existence. He is called “the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation” and “the beginning [Greek, arké] of God’s creation.”-Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14. The very fact that Jesus is called the “Son of God” reveals that he was produced by the Father and is, therefore, his firstborn and only-begotten Son. Jesus himself said: “I live because of the Father.” (John 6:57) After having come into existence, the Son was used in creating everything. (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17; Heb. 1:2) As firstborn Son, this one enjoyed a special intimacy with the Father. He is spoken of in Scripture as being “in the bosom position with the Father.”-John 1:18. At John 8:58, once again the King James Version has Jesus using the expression “I am” in connection with himself, saying, “Before Abraham was, I am.” But here the expression is quite different from the one used at Exodus 3:14. Jesus did not use it as a name or title but simply as a means of explaining his prehuman existence. Thus, according to the New World Translation, the more correct rendering of John 8:58 is: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” Clearly, no Scriptural basis exists for the claim that Jesus is the same as Jehovah of the Hebrew Scriptures. Even the teacher’s manual previously quoted admits: “That Christ existed before His birth in Bethlehem does not in itself prove He was God (He could have existed as an angel).” In fact, this is what the Bible teaches. In his prehuman existence, Jesus was “a god,” or divine one, but not the God, the almighty God Jehovah.-John 1:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Bro in simple he is God in human form ❤️
Jesus never said I am God in human form. This is story which created by Paul's doctrine taught by Churches. Many things that Christians believe in today never even said or preached by Jesus. Todays Christian is from the teaching of Paul. Christians should claim themselves as Paultian instead of Christian. Christians don't even have a single original text of Injil ( Bible) . Even the word bible is not from Jesus its all from Paul. As such how could one says bible is holy book when the author are Peter, Mathew,Luke and John.. Surprisingly non of them are Jesus disciples and no one knows in history who are the four Gentlemen . Christians are just following blindly a book and teaching of some Jokers..
@@PEH5806 then what Jesus said?
@@PEH5806 Paul just simply shows the prophecy of the Torah full filled by Jesus
And Jesus also said " I am here to fullfill the law and prophecies and not to condemn it" okay. 👍🏼?
@@kiwihans100
"Son of Man" already proved he is not son of God.
@@kiwihans100
Perfect man does not say: Why you calling me good? Asked Jesus. Only God is one true God. So pls don't give your own assumption. Jesus said otherwise.
What Jesus meant when he said, "I AM":
I Am the Bread of Life,
I Am the Light of the World,
I Am the Door of the Sheep,
I Am the Good Shepherd,
I Am the Resurrection and the Life,
I Am the Way, the Truth & the life and
I AM the True Vine
Beautiful.ty
You missed out the way, the truth and the life
@@raymond.28 You're right...but also I missed only the "the life" in the second line before last, thinking at the time, it was already said in the line above that...and sounded like a repetition to write in the next line. But I now realized that I shouldn't have done that and I've corrected it now.
Thank you!
@@etcetera3282 and i spelled Way as was lol
👍....I just wrote "know" instead of "now"...but I just edited it...haha
70 Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?” So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.”
71 And they said, “What further testimony do we need? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth.” - Luke 22:70-71 NKJV
They didnt ask jesus are you God . First century Christians Jews and pharisees not once thought almighty God was gonna become a man
@@AstariahJW that's why they plotted to kill him after making the statement.
@@ri3m4nn Jews didn't believe jesus was the messiah. They question his age not a title. So jesus told them the truth that he existed before abraham. Jesus said he came down from heaven
Those Jews were finding a way to get him arrested and killed
What Jews said about jesus were completely wrong
False teachers only focus on what Jews said cause they think the Jews must have been right
We should focus on jesus words not the Jews
@@AstariahJW incorrect, Jesus was making a statement of eternal existence which is only God. That's why they plotted to kill him.
So he is son of God why is that so hard to believe what God mite decide to do
Christ' Is Lord'✝️🙌 hallelujah 🤎
Amen
May God bless all the people in this world...Hallelujah... Amen in Jesus name
Jesus himself is god
He never said so
@@PEH5806 God said "I am" which is also means "God" (Self identification).
@@godlymike1070
I am that used in Torah and the bible was different word in their original text but forcefully translated as I am just to make it looks like the same..
@@PEH5806 Jesus spoke those words which is paleo-Hebrew, and Aramaic as in original text. Those translations are verbatim That's why its the same in all translations around the world, and they weren't forcefully translated. They were perfectly preserve.
@@godlymike1070
Nope. Not at all
I use “got questions” SO much. Thank u. Thank u. Thank u 🇨🇦
no brother, he is not. ❤️ he is divine nonetheless.
So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying
👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.)
He was simply saying to them,
"before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine.
His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament:
This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron.
Be diligent, beloved. Behold!
KJV:
John 1:1
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Original Greek:
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity.
This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what?
👇🏾
[Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation:
👇🏾
John 17:5
King James Version
5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿
[That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]:
👇🏾
Revelation 22:16
[16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and
👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿
[In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]:
Job 38:4-7
[4]Where wast thou when I
👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
[7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and
👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿
shouted for joy?
[Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which if the morningstars was He!]:
👇🏾
Luke 1:78-79
[78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38!
Job 38: 12-15
[12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ]
to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12]
(notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 )
For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect.
Carnal:
Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire.
Spirtual:
THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
There is one more I AM when the soldiers went to arrest him. They said "are you Jesus of Nazareth?" He said I AM and they fall backwards in to the ground...
Amazing...
I m sorry for my poor English. I am a Greek.
Oh come on now how would you acknowledge that's ms your looking for without saying I am?
I am has no meaning in the whole bible. There is no great I am . It's never applied as a title to almighty God
In John 8:58, the King James Version has Jesus saying "Before Abraham was, I AM", with the phrase "I AM" in capital letters as if he were using a title. But the Greek expression in this verse does not use capital letters and is very different from the Hebrew expression found in Exodus 3:14, where God says, according to most modern Bibles, "I will be what I will be." In John 8:58, Jesus was not using a title to refer to himself. Neither was he claiming to be Jehovah God. He was simply explaining his pre-human existence. Some Bibles correctly translate Jesus' words as "Before Abraham existed, I have been" or "I existed before Abraham was born."
AMEN BROTHER. RIGHT ON
You are 100% Correct , Trinitarians would Stone you to death for saying it .
Thomas was a Jew, he knew who his God was , his Lord was Jesus and his god was YHWH
David knew who is God was “ YHWH said to my Lord , Jesus , Sit at my right hand .” Psalm 110.
The Lord Jesus was with the Father from the Beginning, The Trinity is from Satan to deny Almighty Gods Existence . Satan offered Jesus the whole world to get rid of God ,but Jesus turned him down
Exodus 3:14: God said to moses " I Am who I Am "
Not an accurate translation
Thats the God of israel
Absolutely correct
If he is on the same page as the father, then why does he ask things of the father, why would he need to ask for anything? Think of it like a corporate structure, the bottom employees (humans) never get to speak directly with the CEO (the father) they talk to middle management (Prophets)
It's simple really: When he took the form of mankind, he had to give up some of His Godship. After He rose from the dead, He would gain it back, but attaining the form of a human caused Christ to be in the state of a person: He had to Pray to the Father to keep His Spirit aligned with His, just like we have to do. Had Christ not, we would had no example to follow.
JESUS CHRIST IS ONE TRUE GOD THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISAAC AND JACOB KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORD'S ALMIGHTY GOD EVERLASTING FATHER PRIENCE OF PEACE THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS 🙏🙏🙏 THE GREAT I AM
No he is not
Jesus said the father is the only true God
@@AstariahJWtry again
@@ryancarver585 dont tale my words . Listen to jesus. If you want to be part of his sheep . Whst did he teach?
Jesus said my sheep hear my voice
@AstariahFox any time you have lack of faith you always have people that will blather on and on and on to reconcile what they believe
@@ryancarver585 yea we need faith but we also need accurate knowledge of truth
Before Abraham was what? Born, or appointed a Father to a multitude?
Before Abrahams was appointed a Father to a multitude, Abraham was taking his son to slaughter, then lied to issac as to who was being slaughtered..... God did not ask for the child, he asked for Abrahams alter ego, the one who made him laugh at God when told he would have a second child, it was his own understanding... Father of lies, pictured in his own mind a child sacrifice.... Jesus was Abrahams fruits, and he was glad to see the day!! And thats your understanding of a good Father!
I AM, THAT I AM.
We all are the way and I am , if I wasn't why would I say I am, I don't know it's just the way I am
In the beginning, the Word was with God & the Word was God.
I would love to see how the deniers spin that one.
Easy! Always go to the greek source. 😊❤
no brother, he is not GOD. ❤️ but He is divine nonetheless.
So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying
👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.)
He was simply saying to them,
"before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine.
His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament:
This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron.
Be diligent, beloved. Behold!
KJV:
John 1:1
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Original Greek:
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity.
This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what?
👇🏾
[Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation:
👇🏾
John 17:5
King James Version
5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿
[That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]:
👇🏾
Revelation 22:16
[16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and
👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿
[In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]:
Job 38:4-7
[4]Where wast thou when I
👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
[7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and
👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿
shouted for joy?
[Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which one of the morningstars was He!]:
👇🏾
Luke 1:78-79
[78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38!
Job 38: 12-15
[12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ]
to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12]
(notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 )
For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect.
Carnal:
Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire.
Spirtual:
THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
You must be a trinitrian. Did you know that Babylon had trinities of God's too and they were pagans. So is your belief too. And in Revelation it says God is going to destroy Babylon the Great. Do you know what Babylon the Great is?? It's false worship. Yahweh/Jehovah/Yod-He-Waw-He/Yehovah/Yehowah, whatever you want to call him, he is God Almighty, not Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God and Isaiah 9:6 says that Jesus was to be a Mighty God. And 10:21 in the same book says only a remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob to the Mighty God. That scripture lines up perfectly with Luke 1:33,34 and when or if you read it, you'll see that someone else is giving Jesus the throne. That someone else is God Almighty Jehovah or all those other name's I mentioned previously. Jesus is not God Almighty, he's a Mighty God and theres a difference between the two. Mighty means powerful and strong. Almighty means absolute power and no equal. If I was God Almighty, the most powerful entity in the universe, and you were my son what would that make you???
Answer; a Mighty God
@@ScottRock-mr6qkSo you're saying there's 2 Gods?
@lukeC22V42 1 Corinthians 8:5,6 "For even though there are many God's and many Lord's, to us there is only one God, the Father." I'm not saying it. The
Bible does. And that Father is Jehovah or Yahweh or Yod-He-Waw-He or Yehovah or even Yehowah whatever you wanna call him, I just know it ain't Jesus because Jesus on Hebrew is Yeshua and Yeshua without the vowels is YSH NOT YHWH. And Exodus 6:3 says "I appeared unto Abraham, Issac and Jacob as God Almighty but by my name Jehovah was I not known. So how many God Almighty's do we have???
@@ScottRock-mr6qk truth.
You said that Jesus is the second Godhead, that is not true. The Spirit inside Jesus makes Him One with the Father.
Complicated
1:56 Jesus is equal to father???but in the bible mark 13:32 said they are not equal.this guy is so confusing😳
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.(mark13:32)
Paul explains the voluntary veiling of Jesus’ power and glory when He came in the form of man. Certain aspects of His divinity were held back. If they weren’t, He would not have died for us. Think of it like this: If you are not blind, but wear a blind fold voluntarily, you are veiling your eyesight. Such is the same when Jesus came in the form of man. At that time, He humbled Himself and submitted to The Father, as an example of how we should live. As a man, He was lower in authority and glory and power. But this was a voluntary action that needed to be done so that He could conquer death and sin. So when He says He does not know something, it is only at that time, since He is voluntarily withholding His power. In fact, many of the works He does are because of the Holy Spirit within Him.
@@KamiNoRanger99Yes!! Twist the scriptures to fit your doctrine Kamen. And tell your lies to other so that they believe too. Very Good Son of Satan. Your father will be proud of you.
NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES JESUS EVER SAY HE'S GOD AND 3 ARE 1 IS PAGANISM. BABYLON HAD TRINITIES OF GOD'S TOO AND YOU SEE HOW GOD DEALT WITH THEM AND THAT'S ALSO WHY GOD IS GOING TO WIPE OUT BABYLON THE GREAT IN REVELATION. BECAUSE THATS WHAT BABYLON THE GREAT IS, ITS FALSE WORSHIP. GOD IS JEHOVAH. NOT JESUS JESUS IS A MIGHTY GOD JUST AS ISAIAH SAID HE WOULD BE BUT JEHOVAH IS GOD ALMIGHTY. AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. ALMIGHTY MEANS ABSOLUTE POWER AND NO EQUAL. MIGHTY MEANS POWERFUL AND STRONG. AND JEHOVAH'S OWN SPIRIT IS HIS OWN. BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND KEEP TWISTING THE SCRIPTURES AND LEADING OTHERS DOWN THE WRONG PATH. THERE WILL BE A HEAVIER JUDGEMENT FOR THOSE THAT TEACH. AND WHAT YOUR TEACHING IS WRONG KAMEN
The Son had thr Holy Ghost! What is the Holy Ghost! Why did God tell humans THIS IS MY SON- LISTEN TO HIM!!!!!!!❤❤❤
I am the way to god during his time
I've never seen so many unbiblical, blasphemous comments on one video.
Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58 do not express the same thought
We know that they do not because at Exodus 3:14 the Greek Septuagint Version (the translation that was often quoted by the apostles in the first century C.E.) reads, e•goʹ ei•miʹ ho Ohnʹ, “I am the Being.” This is quite different from the simple use of the words e•goʹ ei•miʹ (I am) at John 8:58. The verb ei•miʹ, at John 8:58, is evidently in the historical present, as Jesus was speaking about himself in relation to Abraham’s past. Numerous translators indicate this in their renderings. For example, An American Translation reads: “I existed before Abraham was born!”
Not once, however, does the Bible state that Jesus is coeternal with God. Though Jesus enjoyed a prehuman existence of unspecified length in heaven, the Bible shows that he had a beginning of existence. He is called “the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation” and “the beginning [Greek, arké] of God’s creation.”-Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14. The very fact that Jesus is called the “Son of God” reveals that he was produced by the Father and is, therefore, his firstborn and only-begotten Son. Jesus himself said: “I live because of the Father.” (John 6:57) After having come into existence, the Son was used in creating everything. (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17; Heb. 1:2) As firstborn Son, this one enjoyed a special intimacy with the Father. He is spoken of in Scripture as being “in the bosom position with the Father.”-John 1:18. At John 8:58, once again the King James Version has Jesus using the expression “I am” in connection with himself, saying, “Before Abraham was, I am.” But here the expression is quite different from the one used at Exodus 3:14. Jesus did not use it as a name or title but simply as a means of explaining his prehuman existence. Thus, according to the New World Translation, the more correct rendering of John 8:58 is: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.”
Clearly, no Scriptural basis exists for the claim that Jesus is the same as Jehovah of the Hebrew Scriptures. Even the teacher’s manual previously quoted admits: “That Christ existed before His birth in Bethlehem does not in itself prove He was God (He could have existed as an angel).” In fact, this is what the Bible teaches. In his prehuman existence, Jesus was “a god,” or divine one, but not the God, the almighty God Jehovah.-John 1:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
HALLELUJAH 🙌🏽🔥💕
That means Praise Jah or in Hebrew Yah. Take a look at that spelling Yah. Jesus' name was Yeshua so if you shortened his name it would be Yeh not Yah so this means that Yah is someone else and that someone else is Yehowah or as you know it Yahweh. YHWH. So yes Hallelujah Praise Jah!!
Thank you. So helpful.
How many others is it said we or you - are pick out befor the time of ..
Read John 14:6-10
In this paragraph Jesus said If you've seen me you've seen the father, then the apostle Philip asked him to show them The Father and it'll be enough, as in enough proof. Jesus responded, "Have I been with you for so long at a time and you still do not know ME Philip?"
Continue to read the rest of that chapter as Jesus explains more that he IS the father! 🙌
Lol that's not what jesus meant
Besides trinitarians dont bieleve jesus is the father
Spot on
@AstariahFox keep trying to rework scripture
@@ryancarver585 rework scripture?
@@AstariahJW agree.
We are all gods essence
While there is no doubt that there is relationship between Jesus saying “I am” to Exodus 3, I don’t think the relationship is as direct as you make it sound to be.
Exodus use “eh weh” for “I am”
While Isaiah uses “ani hu” for “I am he” for instance in Isaiah 41.
The Septuagint translates eh weh as “ho on” while ani hu (I am he) is translated as “ego eimi” (note the word He in greek cannot be translated in this context)
John uses the word ego eimi which has more direct connection to Isaiah.
But of course, since Isaiah’s use of the word I am has relationship to Exodus, the indirect relationship still stands.
I understand the point of the video is to be brief, but a footnote would be nice.
phrase אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה means i will be what i will be
I AM YOU 😇
if you believe that in the john 8 verse 56-58 said that jessu is god you are wrong because in the old testament "I am" refers to god the father and another thing i need to say that if you change the word "I am " with God,then you realize that new testament say before abraham was god because " I am " means in your understaing is God.Thats why Don't think jessu was god.But if you go john 17 verse 3 you clearly see that jessu actually said the only true god is father.Thanks
You just said Jesus is The One True God.
Jesus said I am thirsty.Before Abraham i shall be.
I Am the Alpha and Omega The Beginning and the End (Revelation 1)
I Am the Bread of Life,
I Am the Light of the World,
I Am the Door of the Sheep,
I Am the Good Shepherd,
I Am the Resurrection and the Life,
I Am the Way, the Truth & the life and
I AM the True Vine
Yet not one phrase of I am God
@@AstariahJW Jesus said to john, " Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children."(Revelation 21:7)
@@AstariahJW I am the Beginning, and I am the End; and beside me there is no God.(Isaiah 44:6)
@@delicionmichael3992 who is speaking in that verse?
@@delicionmichael3992 jesus said we are brothers of him You cant be brothers plus be children of God so the speaker in that verse is the father Jehovah God not jesus
Wow,amazing thanks
Why didn’t Jesus perform miracles to prove himself to the Jews before his crucifixion?
Jesus did not say that to Moses. He was not yet born.
I believe he didn't plan yet to be born at that time.
I-A-MAN
true spiritual man whom God made in His Image and likeness
The I AM is the metaphysical name of the spiritual self, as distinguished from the human self. One is governed by Spirit, the other by personal will. Christ and Yahuah
are the scriptural names for spiritual I AM. Yashua called it the Father. I AM is eternal, without beginning or ending: YAHUA THE FATHER THE CREATOR + YASHUA THE SON THE SAVIOR= YAHUSHUA
1. Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father and then we will be satisfied.” Jahushua said to him, “Have I been with you for so long a time, and you
do not know !
2. Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need.” Jahushua answered, “I have been with you a long time now. Do you still not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.
3. Yahushua said he is the way to the father. And the only way
4. Yahuah is the ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE ETERNAL WITHOUT BEGINING AND ENDING
He meant that He is God.
No he wasn't, he meant before Abraham existed I existed. The context of the conversation was about Age not Divinity or claiming to be the Almighty God.
@@zogood3495 Even though the Son is not the Father, they are both still God. That’s what Jesus meant when He said, “I and the Father are One.”
@@metalrocker627 No they are not, Jesus is one with the Father because he is the Son of God, made in his image, sent to do his will. By your logic husband and wife are also the same being correct seeing as how they are one.
@@zogood3495 Husband and wife?? Terrible comparison. So since Jesus is “of God” that also means that He “IS God”
@@metalrocker627 How is it a terrible comparison when both verses state "they are One" so if you claim Jesus is God that also means a Husband and Wife are also One being you can't throw your logic out the window when it doesn't fit your agenda. Also yes Jesus is a god but he is not The God, he was given power, authority and divinity by his Father thus they cannot be equal or the same being. Jesus was created...last time I checked God has no creation, Jesus was tempted last time I checked God doesn't get tempted, Jesus died last time I checked God cannot die etc. In scripture when asked directly who he is Jesus clearly stated he is the Son of God every time.
TRUTH IN TRANSLATING ..JASON DAVID BE DUHN CH 10 TAMPERING WITH TENSES,
(I AM ) P 103 -111.
no brother, he is not. ❤️ he is divine nonetheless.
So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying
👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.)
He was simply saying to them,
"before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine.
His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament:
This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron.
Be diligent, beloved. Behold!
KJV:
John 1:1
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Original Greek:
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity.
This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what?
👇🏾
[Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation:
👇🏾
John 17:5
King James Version
5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿
[That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]:
👇🏾
Revelation 22:16
[16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and
👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿
[In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]:
Job 38:4-7
[4]Where wast thou when I
👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
[7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and
👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿
shouted for joy?
[Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which if the morningstars was He!]:
👇🏾
Luke 1:78-79
[78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38!
Job 38: 12-15
[12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ]
to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12]
(notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 )
For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect.
Carnal:
Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire.
Spirtual:
THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
Blind leading the blind!
The blind man in John 9 says “I am” or “ego eimi”. The exact same phrase as Jesus! Is the blind man claiming to be God? Do people try to stone him for blasphemy?
Furthermore, when Moses asked God what His name is… the whole answer isn’t in Exodus 3:14. The answer carries over into verse 15 as well, where God tells Moses His actual name (the Tetragrammaton). It’s just translated in English as “Lord God” or “LORD”.
And what does God say in verse 15 after telling Moses His name (the Tetragrammaton)??? God says “this is my name for ever”.
The I AM in Exodus 3:14 is God the Father Almighty.
But the I AM in John 8:58 is not a direct quote of the Lord Jesus to refer to God.
Because Paul did not mean the same I AM in Exodus when he talked about himself in 1 Cor.15:10.
Based on Greek words:
I AM (Exodus 3:14) - eh-yeh a-ser eh-yeh
I am (John 8:58) - ego eimi
I am what I am (1 Cor. 15:10) - eimi ho eimi
Based on these Greek words, John 8:58 and 1 Cor.15:10 refer to a common man's identity (here the human identity of Paul and Jesus).
It is only Exodus 3:14 that refers to I AM as the title of God the Almighty revealed to Moses.
Therefore, it is clear that Jesus is not referring to Himself as the I AM (God) when He said, "Before Abraham was, I am."
What many confidently believe as Jesus declaring Himself as God by using John 8:58 is blatantly an error.
I AM is not the second god of Trinity or second divine person but it is God the Father since from Old Testament...
As far as John 1:1 first of all its talking of two people not three, the holy spirit is out, second the way it reads in the original Greek Scripture (John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with (the) God, and the Word was god. The reason that I typed up the word (The) before the second God was because in the original Greek Scriptures the definite article is always used before the word God when it is referring to Jehovah God almighty it literally reads "the word was with (Ho Theos), and when you get to the last part of the sentence, it's no longer referring to God Jehovah, because the definite article Greek word (Ho) (the) is no longer there before the word god. Again the last section," and the word was (a) god in this case the word "a" is considered an indefinite article. The indefinite article as we know it, is the letter (a) and it was nonexistent in the original (KOINE) Greek language, so you are probably asking yourself, well if the indefinite article, which is the letter "a" was not existent in the original Greek, why does the New World translation use it at John 1:1? for the same reason that every other non Jehovah's witness translation uses it in other texts, as for example Paul wrote (Acts 28:6) But they were expecting him to swell up or suddenly to drop dead. After they waited for a long time and saw that nothing bad happened to him, they changed their mind and began saying he was a god.::::::::: you see the last part of the scripture of Acts 28:6, The indefinite article letter "a" should not be in any bible translation even yours, but it will be there because it obvious that the people that witnesses the snake bite on Paul, and saw that he recovered would have never thought that he was a god, they knew he was merely a man. So it okay for the new world translation to have added the word "a" to the John 1:1 considering it not in the original Greek, well for our modern times it is proper to use it, as all other translations also use it including your bible, but only if the whole context and chapter finds it suitable. based on the subject being considered as for example John Chapter 1, Verse 18 says "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him. So Jesus is either God or he is not, he cannot be in the middle, and clearly he is not God Because John 1:18 clearly says that "No man has seen God at any time" and there are many more scriptures throughout the bible that support Jesus as the son of God, and not God himself. If for some reason you did not understand it with this explanation I can find an easier way to explain it.
A ton of words don't make you right
@@ryancarver585 The bible is filled with tons words, it don't make the bible right?
@@ryancarver585 these do. But these are organized and broken down properly. ❤
no brother, he is not GOD. ❤️ but He is divine nonetheless.
So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying
👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.)
He was simply saying to them,
"before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine.
His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament:
This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron.
Be diligent, beloved. Behold!
KJV:
John 1:1
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Original Greek:
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity.
This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what?
👇🏾
[Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation:
👇🏾
John 17:5
King James Version
5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿
[That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]:
👇🏾
Revelation 22:16
[16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and
👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿
[In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]:
Job 38:4-7
[4]Where wast thou when I
👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
[7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and
👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿
shouted for joy?
[Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which one of the morningstars was He!]:
👇🏾
Luke 1:78-79
[78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38!
Job 38: 12-15
[12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ]
to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12]
(notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 )
For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect.
Carnal:
Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire.
Spirtual:
THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man.
An infinite, sovereign God can manifest himself anyway he chooses.
Since Jehovah is immortal and does not die, he will continue to be God for all eternity. (Hab 1:12; 1Ti 1:17 And Jesus did die
@SheepOfChrist818
WRONG ! You just incerted your own personal interpretation into the text, which says the complete opposite of what you stated.
Even while Jesus himself was alive, according to John 4:24 , he said "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
Proverbs 30:6
"Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. "
Before darkness there was.
God is Ahayah=אלוהים הוא ה' אה'יה
I am I said to no one there.
Iam who sent me. God cant die god cannot be a man god is not the son of man. All in scriptures.
For me: "I am" Means He is what he is, He can do anything he wants!. Like he can do to make a planet, he can make water, he can make animals, he is everything in his power, He can die and alive again, he can multiply trees, he can be born to a human but with God powered himself,. If you can't think that the world will not change then your knowledge is limited. Don't put God's ideas into the size of a human brain's to your ancestors (will not fit) where God himself is so huge and powerful.
As a Bible believing Christian, I must tell everyone here that the confused man in this video is lying to you.
There is no such thing as a triune god.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is NOT a god called "God the Son", and there is NO ONE who "existed eternally with God".
Please, read the scriptures, people.
In English, the scriptures are preserved for us in the Holy Bible, King James Version.
It is written,
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."
1 Timothy 2:5,6
One God and one man are not a trinity of divine persons.
Amen.
You're lying firstly the I AM statement is in greek which is Eigo Eimi, secondly the Hebrew Eyeh asher Eyeh is not I am but I will be, thirdly the Greek Septuagint for the I am statement in Exodus 3:14 is not Eigo Eimi but Ho-On that sent Moses, which being translated is the One being sent not I am, So in full neither the Septuagint which is GREEK old testament nor the Hebrew Maseretic texts translated by the JEWS themselves who know their own language agree with the Trinitarian misrepresentation of the I AM and the rest of the scripture as you guys use it to your own destruction as Peter said in 2 Peter 3:15-17 ... Want to debate the Trinity? (Bonus note: The reason that it says before ABRAHAM i am because he is talking of being the first born from the dead the new creation, he is the first resurrection which is before Abraham see Colossians 1:15-18 and Romans 8:29)
It doesn't mean I will be. The LXX agrees with "I AM".
No both of you are wrong. Its not I am and its not will be, its To Be.
@@misterauctor7353who or what is LXX?? I disagree with them. The Hebrew word when translated is To Be. Just because someone agrees with something doesnt make it or them right . Everyone has an opinion and opinions vary widely. If you truly want to know what is at 3:14 then ask a Jewish friend to translate what's being said in the Hebrew wording. He'll tell you that it isn't I am. I know because i have a friend straight from Israel. And he knows this scripture well. It's To Be.
@@ScottRock-mr6qk Do you not know the LXX is?
@@misterauctor7353 I said I didn't.
Exodus God said Eh Yeh Aser Eh Yeh.. Jesus said Ego Eim. There is a big difference. If you read John 8 in context Jesus was saying He was the chosen one before the creation of this world, just like Jeremiah 1:5, that God said he knew him before this world.
Also John 1 clearly contradicts Genesis 1. I have came to the conclusion long ago that the bible is not divine, its a man made book full of mistakes and contradictions.
My friend, you are comparing two different languages. I would refer you to read Philippians 2, it shows how ignorant it is to think that Jesus is just a man and did not eternally existed.
You are saying that the bible is a man made book with errors, yet you are using verses from it to prove a point? this to me sounds like a Muslim logic.
@@ish9455 yes the bible is man made. And I'm using it to prove that it's full of contridictions and mistakes.
You only have to be sincere to yourself to know that.
@@ish9455 by the way I have benefited much from professor Bart Ehrman. I suggest you read his papers. He is a professor who studied manuscripts.
Don't be blind by the church, follow the facts
God has the name Ahayah=לאלוהים יש את השם ה ה אה'יה
@@ish9455 lol true
Jesus states himself he was the beginning of GOD'S creation,as u state Jesus states he is the shepherd so who is the gate keeper,GOD let's his name known in Exodus stating his personal name is YHWH and that is his name for all generations he doesn't state ah later I will change it to Jesus,only the blind deaf and dumb believe in the false teaching of the pagan Trinity,Jesus states himself no one is greater than the Father not even I. Doesn't the doctrine of the Trinity teach the are all co equal with each other,c this is a false doctrine Jesus states ONLY the father knows that day and the hour,this can't get much simpler that that
This is just the worst exegesis of John 8:58 I’ve ever seen. And it’s repeated over and over again without question. However, this explanation completely ignores all the relevant context and the previous two “I am/ego eimi” statements of Jesus in verses 24 and 28. The Jews didn’t try to stone him then so why did they in verse 58? I have a whole video on this topic that discusses the context in it’s entirety and clearly shows why it was Jesus claim to be greater than Abraham that illicit the Jews to pick up stones to kill him. The video is entitled John 8: A Reading.
Jesus didnt say. The kingdom of god is ,,within you,,, Jesus said,, the kingdom of god is ,,, amoung you,,,refering as a metafore to himself being the kingdom of god. After all ,, jesus is the King of the Kingdom!
" I am " hes talking about before abraham there was adam.
True but he didn’t mean that
@@user-kk2uf5du7j the covenant? I mean before abraham was Adam. Adam was the first human being ever made. If the reason for jesus being Incarnated is because to break the curse if sin Adam brought by disobedience by eating the fruit which he shouldn't have eaten. I was assuming what he ment was he is Adam. If son of God theory exist Adam could fit the picture of som of God. Isn't the main enemy of Adam and humanity the devil?
Makes sense? This teaching that Adam is so insignificant is horrendous. I rather believe in the father of all human beings than a person born into the world.
You're pretty! 🤗
Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58 do not express the same thought
We know that they do not because at Exodus 3:14 the Greek Septuagint Version (the translation that was often quoted by the apostles in the first century C.E.) reads, e•goʹ ei•miʹ ho Ohnʹ, “I am the Being.” This is quite different from the simple use of the words e•goʹ ei•miʹ (I am) at John 8:58. The verb ei•miʹ, at John 8:58, is evidently in the historical present, as Jesus was speaking about himself in relation to Abraham’s past. Numerous translators indicate this in their renderings. For example, An American Translation reads: “I existed before Abraham was born!”
Not once, however, does the Bible state that Jesus is coeternal with God. Though Jesus enjoyed a prehuman existence of unspecified length in heaven, the Bible shows that he had a beginning of existence. He is called “the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation” and “the beginning [Greek, arké] of God’s creation.”-Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14. The very fact that Jesus is called the “Son of God” reveals that he was produced by the Father and is, therefore, his firstborn and only-begotten Son. Jesus himself said: “I live because of the Father.” (John 6:57) After having come into existence, the Son was used in creating everything. (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17; Heb. 1:2) As firstborn Son, this one enjoyed a special intimacy with the Father. He is spoken of in Scripture as being “in the bosom position with the Father.”-John 1:18. At John 8:58, once again the King James Version has Jesus using the expression “I am” in connection with himself, saying, “Before Abraham was, I am.” But here the expression is quite different from the one used at Exodus 3:14. Jesus did not use it as a name or title but simply as a means of explaining his prehuman existence. Thus, according to the New World Translation, the more correct rendering of John 8:58 is: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.”
Clearly, no Scriptural basis exists for the claim that Jesus is the same as Jehovah of the Hebrew Scriptures. Even the teacher’s manual previously quoted admits: “That Christ existed before His birth in Bethlehem does not in itself prove He was God (He could have existed as an angel).” In fact, this is what the Bible teaches. In his prehuman existence, Jesus was “a god,” or divine one, but not the God, the almighty God Jehovah.-John 1:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
no . ❤️ but He is divine nonetheless.
So the Greek septugint of 200 BC has Exodus 3:14 using 👉🏽ho ohn👈🏿 for the divine title "I AM", but the same Greek has Yashua saying
👉🏽ego eimi👈🏿 to the Yahudiym in John 8:58. The divine title is not ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) which Yashua said. It is however, ho ohn (ὁ ὢν), which Yashua did NOT say. As you can clearly see (Trinitarians), there is no connection between “I AM” in Exodus 3:14, and “I am” in John 8:58. (And the septuagint is the oldest form of Torah/Tanahh directly translated Roman the ancient forms of Torah/Tanahh by the maccabees Era Israelites living in Greece who paul directly descends from.)
He was simply saying to them,
"before Abraham was, I existed." Showing he was divine.
His divnity in scripture New Testament and Old Testament:
This is undeniable. 🤲🏿❤️🤲🏼 treasures that are greater than silver and gold. Iron sharpen iron.
Be diligent, beloved. Behold!
KJV:
John 1:1
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Original Greek:
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with THE DEITY, and the Word was Deity.
This clearly in the original Greek just implies that the Word was a Divine Being IN THE BEGINNING. With THE DIVINE SOURCE, But in the beginning of what?
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[Yashua was the first created Morningstar on Day 1 before the world was in the beginning OF CREATION, followed by another lesser Morningstar(satan), and then all the Angels. Treasures that are better than silver and gold! Yashua, The Dayspring and Bright Morningstar in The Beginning of Creation:
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John 17:5
King James Version
5 And now, O FATHER, glorify thou me with thine own self with 👉🏾THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈🏿
[That former glory BEFORE THE WORLD WAS]:
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Revelation 22:16
[16]I Yashua have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the Called Congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and
👉🏽THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.👈🏿
[In the beginning of Creation BEFORE THE WORLD WAS JOB 38]:
Job 38:4-7
[4]Where wast thou when I
👉🏽LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH?👈🏿 declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?[6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
[7]When🔥THE MORNING STARS🔥[Plural] sang TOGETHER, and
👉🏽all the sons of God [Angles]👈🏿
shouted for joy?
[Now we have established He was one of the Morningstars in the beginning who sang before the angels. Let's see which one of the morningstars was He!]:
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Luke 1:78-79
[78]Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿 from on high hath visited us,[79]To give LIGHT to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
⚠️ BACK TO JOB 38!
Job 38: 12-15
[12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused 👉🏽THE DAYSPRING👈🏿[Christ]
to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that THE WICKED MIGHT BE SHAKEN OUT of it? [14 ]It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. [15] And from THE WICKED THEIR LIGHT IS WITHHOLDEN [Darkness], and👉🏽the high arm👈🏿 shall be broken.[Satan, Lucifer lesser Morningstar in Isaiah 14:12]
(notice how Satan as a Morningstar is being called an 👉🏽"arm"👈🏿 that shall be broken. GUESS WHO IS The Holy Arm in Isaiah 52, 53? [Also claims to be A Morningstar in the beginning of Creation, the Dayspring one rev 22:16.] 😊 )
For every carnal aspect there is a spiritual aspect.
Carnal:
Christ told us, to cut off a member of our body if it causes sin, for it is better to be in heaven mamed, than for all of your members to be in the lake of fire.
Spirtual:
THE MOST HIGH YAH With HIS Holy Arm/Right Hand[Yashua], HE cut off HIS other arm[Lucifer] that will be broken who caused sin, and will throw him in the lake of fire, so that all of the other members [Us] don't take part in the lake of fire too and perish.
If Jesus is God...then WHY DO YOU ALL SAY HE IS "SECOND PERSON OF THE TRINITY"?
HEAR OH ISRAEL, THE LORD YOUR GOD, THE LORD ONE IS.
If Jesus is God as the vessel, then, it simoly means He is the same, not another persone. ONE and ONLY
Infinity divided by 3 is still infinity. Don't put God in a human limited box.
You are steering people in the wrong direction towards the counterfeit jesus. In the Gospels Jesus used the term “Son of Man 102 times, the term “Son of God” was used 76 times { 65 times by Jesus }, Jesus proclaimed that God was his father 54 times. Explain that in a video. Either you are wrong or Jesus had multiple personality disorder. I pray God the Father shows you the truth
Lol!! You tell'em sister. I agree with you 1000% and am happy to see someone tell them that they are wrong. Which they are. Very Good sister
@@ScottRock-mr6qk thanks. Great minds think alike lol
@@LoveAcrossAmerica Amen sister!
Hello
Jesus is the Messiah
The Son of God
The Son of David
The Son of man
The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
The man God will judge the world through
The man God raised from the dead
Jesus has a God
There is no triune god in scripture
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
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My dear friend, The bible refers to The father as God, Jesus as God and the holy spirit as God, yet the bible teaches there is ONLY one God, this is a clear representation of the trinity.
Did Jesus have a God? yes indeed because he was fully MAN and fully GOD, he had two natures and it was totally normal for him to refer to his God in his human nature.
Is the father the only true God? Yes indeed "The only true God" here refers to the one nature of God, The father, the Son and the Holy Spirit have the same ONE nature, yet they are three distinct persons (Not distinct Gods).
The trinity teaches there is only ONE true nature of God, three distinct persons.
- The father is God: John 20:17
- Jesus is God: John 1:1
- Jesus and the father have the same one nature: John 10:30 & John 14:9
- Jesus is fully man: 1 Timothy 2:5
- The holy spirit is God: Genesis 1:2
- There is only one God: Deuteronomy 6:4 & Isaiah 43:10
I hope this helps, God bless.
@@ish9455
Hello
Nowhere in scripture do you find Jesus is “fully God and fully man”
That’s not biblical
Came in around 451 AD
And nowhere do you see anyone talking to “a divine nature”
Jesus isn’t praying to a “divine nature” in John 17
Are you able to tell me who Jesus’s God is?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
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I showed you where the bible portrays the divinity and humanity of Jesus Christ, if you read Philippians 2, it shows you how Christ having the nature of God humbled himself and became
flesh to become like us, worship God the father, live, die and then rise from the dead for our redemption.
If are talking about the council of Nicaea by mentioning 451 AD, this is one of the weakest arguments used to deny the divinity of Jesus and it is used especially by Muslims, the myth that early
Christians did not believe in the divinity of Jesus until they made it up in the council of Nicaea. but this is completely false as early Christians believed in the divinity of Jesus
but the reason the council of Nicaea was organised and the Nicene Creed was created was because of a heresy that Arianism came up with about Jesus Christ being a created being before incarnation
which is completely against the bible, therefore, the bishops had to create the Nicene Creed to avoid confusion and refute Arianism.
The God of the man Jesus Christ is God the father, the father of all who is of the same essence as the Son, so in John 17, Jesus wasn't talking to himself, he was talking to the
father who is a distinct person from the Son but is of the same one being/nature as the Son.
Read revelation 5 and you will see how the Son is worshiped with the Father, how can the Son be worshiped if he is not God? our God will not allow his people to worship anyone but him.
Exodus 34:14 - For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
It is hard to deny the divinity of Jesus Christ as he did things only God can do, forgiving sins (Matthew 9:2), raising the dead (John 11:38-44) even raising himself (John 2:19), being the creator of heavens and earth (John 1:3, Hebrews 1) and many other countless things.
You are bringing up verses that refer to Jesus Christ in his exalted human nature, a heresy would to deny the divinity and the humanity of Jesus Christ. You believe in a Christ that cannot save you, a created being cannot save you, only God can.
@@ish9455
Hello Ish
You said “the God of the man Jesus Christ is God the Father”
So Jesus’s God isn’t a trinity
Jesus isn’t a trinitarian
Why would we have a different God than Jesus has?
That also makes two Gods
The God of Jesus (not a trinity)
And
The trinity
You can’t claim the one true God is a trinity then say Jesus’s God isn’t a trinity
That means Jesus is worshipping a different God??
@@ish9455 if Jesus is god, than why when he was dying on the cross he cried out My god My god why have you forsaken me? this clearly shows Jesus is not god, he did not say my father why you forsaken me. Now the idea of 3 in 1 did not come into Christian belief until council of nicaea 300 years after Jesus. This is a fact from history
Blah blah blah I AM means conciousness
No
He meant that he is the Messiah, the son of Abraham, the Son of God.
As it is
path...🧘🌞🚶
Like the disciples, and the churches, you have completely missed the entire point of Jesus and his teachings.
yes because YOU got it right and not the first century disciples who were with him
Your King and a man! Lucifer
Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58 do not express the same thought
We know that they do not because at Exodus 3:14 the Greek Septuagint Version (the translation that was often quoted by the apostles in the first century C.E.) reads, e•goʹ ei•miʹ ho Ohnʹ, “I am the Being.” This is quite different from the simple use of the words e•goʹ ei•miʹ (I am) at John 8:58. The verb ei•miʹ, at John 8:58, is evidently in the historical present, as Jesus was speaking about himself in relation to Abraham’s past. Numerous translators indicate this in their renderings. For example, An American Translation reads: “I existed before Abraham was born!”
Not once, however, does the Bible state that Jesus is coeternal with God. Though Jesus enjoyed a prehuman existence of unspecified length in heaven, the Bible shows that he had a beginning of existence. He is called “the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation” and “the beginning [Greek, arké] of God’s creation.”-Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14. The very fact that Jesus is called the “Son of God” reveals that he was produced by the Father and is, therefore, his firstborn and only-begotten Son. Jesus himself said: “I live because of the Father.” (John 6:57) After having come into existence, the Son was used in creating everything. (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17; Heb. 1:2) As firstborn Son, this one enjoyed a special intimacy with the Father. He is spoken of in Scripture as being “in the bosom position with the Father.”-John 1:18. At John 8:58, once again the King James Version has Jesus using the expression “I am” in connection with himself, saying, “Before Abraham was, I am.” But here the expression is quite different from the one used at Exodus 3:14. Jesus did not use it as a name or title but simply as a means of explaining his prehuman existence. Thus, according to the New World Translation, the more correct rendering of John 8:58 is: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.”
Clearly, no Scriptural basis exists for the claim that Jesus is the same as Jehovah of the Hebrew Scriptures. Even the teacher’s manual previously quoted admits: “That Christ existed before His birth in Bethlehem does not in itself prove He was God (He could have existed as an angel).” In fact, this is what the Bible teaches. In his prehuman existence, Jesus was “a god,” or divine one, but not the God, the almighty God Jehovah.-John 1:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Exactly. You have more knowledge than this guy in the video
@@AstariahJW Thanks you astariah Greeting from California wishing you and yours, prosperity and health
That is misunderstood. Not equal to GOD Almighty but more as a hand of the king such as in GOT's
Not an equal, but God Himself in the Flesh.