Sign Helsley he's proven ,is a top 3 closer in the game . Quit screwing around ,mo , Dewitt need to get their heads out of their butt and sign good quality starting pitching. , get a rotation which is actually good once. Tweak the outfield too. Nootbar needs to go .
This off-season is shaking out the way I saw it going in October: Boring. They seemed to be wanting to concentrate on fixing the org first, and I applauded that. That's what they are concentrating on I still do applaud that decision. It HAD to be done. Just rip the band-aid off and get it done and over with. It means a boring off-season for us, and a .500 season (at best) next year, but things should start looking better in '26 and I hope they start looking like contenders again in '27.
JD, until Mozeliak is out of the organization completely we will not move forward with any significant. Not trying to be negative, but that’s just the reality of where we are.
I would agree if the 2025 Cardinals were going to compete for a spot in postseason play, but they aren’t. They aren’t going to be very good, with him or without him, so dump as much of his salary as possible and find out what one or two of the younger guys can do.
Yes he is, nobody wants him, the cardinals are stuck with that contract. 64 million is a lot of money. And it’s not going to get any better. Even the Red Sox who were believed to be in on Arenado have said they were not interested
Hey JD; It appears Arenado may have a hard time getting traded to a team he would waive his no trade contract for. It will be interesting to see how the Cards play that Card if they can’t find a match for him. It’s kind of a sad situation for Arenado. However it turns out I hope the best for him! JD; I wish you a a happy holiday tomorrow and a “Happy New Year!! I’ll be looking forward to watching “LOC” in 2025! God bless you and keep you!
JD i think this is the correct direction. Let's be honest Mo screwed up big time. It is going to take a little time for the cardinal foundation to be rebuilt.
That's pretty sad when you say it sucks the Cardinals didn't trade one of the best third baseman's ever to play the game. He hit for a better average and had more hits than the current top free agent for the position. He was only a couple RBIs short of the current top free agent for that position. He's due for a comeback. What's best for the Cardinals is for them to keep him. By the time they pay down his contract for another team he's a very affordable player with a massive upside. And let's not forget we have absolutely nobody to replace him a third. Unless you're wanting a guy that's going to strike out over 200 times and can't hit over 200 batting average if you consider that a replacement I don't.
Yeah......Flaherty arguably may actually be the best SP Free Agent out there ......my suspicion is he's prob. in-play for the Giants, Tigers....maybe even the Braves.
@@LockedOnCardinalsMLBit's not that much less. They had a 40 or 50 million dollar surplus after all the bills was paid last year so they made money there's no reason to cut the payroll down to nothing other than trying to rob the fans
@@LockedOnCardinalsMLBit wasn't that much less. They had a 40 or 50 million dollar surplus last year there's no reason to cut the payroll down to nothing this year except for to rob the fans
Hold onto him until trade deadline. Move instead either Fedde, Matz or Mikolas (unlikely on the latter). There will be a contender that needs a defensive whiz like Arenado with great baseball IQ and some pop in the bat. He’s a good rebound candidate although his best years are likely behind him. We will reap more prospect capital wanting for demand to go up like it does every July.
The way teams are paying his contract is really not bad but if he dont go then the roster is screwed because then Donovan has to play left then Nootbaar is either playing center or no where but there is more value in Fedde Helsley
Why are the Cards trying to get rid of every player that makes more than a plumber? Fedde didn't cost anything. Why would they dump the best closer in the game? They are one of the most popular teams. They sell lots of tickets and merchandise. Ownership has plenty of money. Why are the Cards hell bent on being as cheap and bad as the A's? I ask this in all sincerity. Why don't they want to win? As we've seen in recent years, that is what they have seemed to want.
Arenado will end up going to the angels, the cards will pay 25 million, cards will get a low level lottery ticket. And that will be the end of the goldenado experiment.
Kind of think will be to the Yanks. For a Prospect that's not in the Yanks' Top 10. Probably looking at No. 18 or 19 - Z. Messinger (25 yr. old currently at AA) OR Beeter (26 yr. old up w/ the big club - though only w/ like 2 Rlf. Apps. to end the season).
I hope that's not the case. Because if that's all you get for him and you have to pay for basically his whole contract I don't see what the point in trading him is. He still want the best third basemans to play the game
@KDShortyBulls yep, it's a terrible contract, and if they want to shed 50 million and see Gorman at 3rd all year that is probably the price they will have to pay. They were willing to pay 20 million to the Astros.
i HAVE HAD SOME TIME NOW TO REFLECT ON THE nOLAN aRENADO ISSUE OF BEING TRADED. i STILL MAINTAIN THAT WE DON'T GET IN A HURRY. if HE DOES GET BETTER IN 2025, THAT'S APLUS FOR US GOING INOT THE TRADE DEADLINE. IF WE STILL WANT TO TRADE HIM. TAHT is A PLUS FOR him, TOO. tO ME,T HAT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATON. eVEN if HE DOES WALK AWAY IN HIS FREE AGENT YEAR, AND WE GET NOTHING IN RETURN, HOW MUCH OF ALOSS IS THAT? WE'VE GOT OPTIONS FOR 3RD BASE THAT "sHOW prOMISE". mY HUMBLE OPIONION IS TO SEE WHAT HE DOES INT EH BEGINNING OF 2025 AND WORK IT FROMT EHRE. if SOMEONE HAD WNATED HIM BY NOW, HE'D BE gone. IN SHORT,, i THINK WAITING UNTIL TEHTRADING DEADLINE IN NEXYEAR'S SEASON IS THE SMAR MOVE. AT THIS POINT.
Just do what Cubs did in 2021. Pay most of Arenado’s contract which you can, and get as good a prospect as possible for him. Then trade all the aging high price players, even with paying to get rid of them. The worst retooling/rebuilding is go half way! Never will work!
Houston was good enough for Christian Walker and I'm pretty sure he wants to win. After this mess if a player wants a no trade clause from the Cardinals. The Cardinals should say ok submit 5 teams you don't want to go to if you're not good with that we are moving on.....Andrew Heaney would be a good pickup for the money.
He's to old has diminishing skills and is owed way to much money. His contract is a boat anchor for all the teams he approves for a trade. The Dodgers need to pass on him.
Why yes. Yes we are. Still want to move on with Gorman. I’d tell Arenado that the best he can expect here is 3rd string 3B. Perhaps that will help motivate him to move. Thinking we’ll be better without him.
Why are the Cardinals stuck ? Play Gorman at 3rd and DH Arenado . Where is the big problem ? If it is Arenado's money , simply move Matz and Mikolas, and if the Cardinals can't move their money, the Cardinals just need to take accountability for their bad signings ! No Motgomery, No Flaherty, and absolutely no Bauer !
For the Cardinals to trade Arenado and to pay for most of his salary is absurd. He is still a draw even though his offensive numbers have went down. He is still the best defensive 3rd baseman in the game today. He still draws the value of fan attention and that is "Butts in the Stands". Which is MONEY for the franchise. I think the Cards should trade him but not for nothing, they should hang tough and be prepared to keep him. It won't hurt the franchise to keep him.
Just got to say, your "In Stream" advertisements, annoy the hell out of me, but I understand why you do it, can you cut down the time that you give them by a little bit. I am just someone that will never use any of those you advertise for.
Getting rid of Helsley when you have starters that can't go more than 5 or 6 innings is not a good idea!!
Sign Helsley he's proven ,is a top 3 closer in the game .
Quit screwing around ,mo , Dewitt need to get their heads out of their butt and sign good quality starting pitching. , get a rotation which is actually good once.
Tweak the outfield too.
Nootbar needs to go .
@@Bigbirdreese1600I agree they need to extend Ryan. Noot is due for a breakout season let's keep him
This off-season is shaking out the way I saw it going in October: Boring. They seemed to be wanting to concentrate on fixing the org first, and I applauded that. That's what they are concentrating on I still do applaud that decision. It HAD to be done. Just rip the band-aid off and get it done and over with. It means a boring off-season for us, and a .500 season (at best) next year, but things should start looking better in '26 and I hope they start looking like contenders again in '27.
I guess my question is why don't the Cards want to win?
JD, until Mozeliak is out of the organization completely we will not move forward with any significant. Not trying to be negative, but that’s just the reality of where we are.
Been saying that for three years.
Lifelong red bird here, I HATE MOZELIAK wit a PASSION he’s ruining our illustrious franchise
@@avkinideeDewitt is not spending any money.He is part of the problem.
@@avkinidee I don’t hate him, but I just don’t believe he’s very good at his job. And he’s not very transparent.
Bla bla bla
Its amazing how players love playing in stl
Never thought I'd think of it as a burden haha
Keep him, still in the top 5 at 3rd, and can hit!
I would agree if the 2025 Cardinals were going to compete for a spot in postseason play, but they aren’t. They aren’t going to be very good, with him or without him, so dump as much of his salary as possible and find out what one or two of the younger guys can do.
he is a declining player.
@@georgesouthwick7000why? Even if they're not going to be that good they shouldn't even try to win? That don't make any sense
I don’t think any team is going to give up much to get him, or is going to be willing to pay much of the money still owed him.
Honestly, for what he does and for what the Rockies are already covering it's not like he's a massive overpay.
Yes he is, nobody wants him, the cardinals are stuck with that contract. 64 million is a lot of money. And it’s not going to get any better. Even the Red Sox who were believed to be in on Arenado have said they were not interested
Then what is the point in trading him? There is none. We don't even have a replacement for him.
Hey JD;
It appears Arenado may have a hard time getting traded to a team he would waive his no trade contract for.
It will be interesting to see how the Cards play that Card if they can’t find a match for him.
It’s kind of a sad situation for Arenado. However it turns out I hope the best for him!
JD; I wish you a a happy holiday tomorrow and a “Happy New Year!!
I’ll be looking forward to watching “LOC” in 2025!
God bless you and keep you!
JD i think this is the correct direction. Let's be honest Mo screwed up big time. It is going to take a little time for the cardinal foundation to be rebuilt.
That's pretty sad when you say it sucks the Cardinals didn't trade one of the best third baseman's ever to play the game. He hit for a better average and had more hits than the current top free agent for the position. He was only a couple RBIs short of the current top free agent for that position. He's due for a comeback. What's best for the Cardinals is for them to keep him. By the time they pay down his contract for another team he's a very affordable player with a massive upside. And let's not forget we have absolutely nobody to replace him a third. Unless you're wanting a guy that's going to strike out over 200 times and can't hit over 200 batting average if you consider that a replacement I don't.
Flaherty would be a terrible signing, I don’t understand why the cardinals would want him
Yeah......Flaherty arguably may actually be the best SP Free Agent out there ......my suspicion is he's prob. in-play for the Giants, Tigers....maybe even the Braves.
The last few years seems like we haven't done anything during the off-seasons
Contreras, Gray, Gibson, Lynn, Kittredge were all offseason moves
We need a veteran for the young guys
pretty sure Cards have a tv deal
they do but it's much less than what they were originally supposed to get... was just pointing out the similarities with them and Arizona
@@LockedOnCardinalsMLBit's not that much less. They had a 40 or 50 million dollar surplus after all the bills was paid last year so they made money there's no reason to cut the payroll down to nothing other than trying to rob the fans
@@LockedOnCardinalsMLBit wasn't that much less. They had a 40 or 50 million dollar surplus last year there's no reason to cut the payroll down to nothing this year except for to rob the fans
No not a tough spot let him here & he ll have his best yr ever. Just let him alone!
Hold onto him until trade deadline. Move instead either Fedde, Matz or Mikolas (unlikely on the latter). There will be a contender that needs a defensive whiz like Arenado with great baseball IQ and some pop in the bat. He’s a good rebound candidate although his best years are likely behind him. We will reap more prospect capital wanting for demand to go up like it does every July.
Why would anybody want miles , matz ?
19 mill ,11 mill $$ contract ..
If they do they are dumber than mo.
😂😂😂
If they can get rid of Steven or Miles I'm okay with that. But they should be trying to keep Nolan and they should be trying to extend Erick
The way teams are paying his contract is really not bad but if he dont go then the roster is screwed because then Donovan has to play left then Nootbaar is either playing center or no where but there is more value in Fedde Helsley
Did JD actually suggest the brewers or Cubs would maybe be interested in Goldy?😂
Just saying I'm glad he didn't go there haha
I think if other team pay about 10m a year for him, then might have a deal, with a small prospect
Why are the Cards trying to get rid of every player that makes more than a plumber? Fedde didn't cost anything. Why would they dump the best closer in the game? They are one of the most popular teams. They sell lots of tickets and merchandise. Ownership has plenty of money. Why are the Cards hell bent on being as cheap and bad as the A's? I ask this in all sincerity. Why don't they want to win? As we've seen in recent years, that is what they have seemed to want.
Great question. The answer is the owners are cheap billionaires and they like to steal from their fans
He could relive between 3rd and 1st
Yeah right. You want one of the best third basemans to ever play the game to be a backup 🥴😂
Im a astro fan i like your show i watch cause i do think the cards have talent there just need to lose ur gm i dont think he relises what he is doing
Arenado will end up going to the angels, the cards will pay 25 million, cards will get a low level lottery ticket. And that will be the end of the goldenado experiment.
Kind of think will be to the Yanks. For a Prospect that's not in the Yanks' Top 10. Probably looking at No. 18 or 19 - Z. Messinger (25 yr. old currently at AA) OR Beeter (26 yr. old up w/ the big club - though only w/ like 2 Rlf. Apps. to end the season).
I hope that's not the case. Because if that's all you get for him and you have to pay for basically his whole contract I don't see what the point in trading him is. He still want the best third basemans to play the game
@@KevinHuffman-m6h yanks have no interest
@KDShortyBulls yep, it's a terrible contract, and if they want to shed 50 million and see Gorman at 3rd all year that is probably the price they will have to pay. They were willing to pay 20 million to the Astros.
i HAVE HAD SOME TIME NOW TO REFLECT ON THE nOLAN aRENADO ISSUE OF BEING TRADED. i STILL MAINTAIN THAT WE DON'T GET IN A HURRY. if HE DOES GET BETTER IN 2025, THAT'S APLUS FOR US GOING INOT THE TRADE DEADLINE. IF WE STILL WANT TO TRADE HIM. TAHT is A PLUS FOR him, TOO. tO ME,T HAT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATON. eVEN if HE DOES WALK AWAY IN HIS FREE AGENT YEAR, AND WE GET NOTHING IN RETURN, HOW MUCH OF ALOSS IS THAT? WE'VE GOT OPTIONS FOR 3RD BASE THAT "sHOW prOMISE". mY HUMBLE OPIONION IS TO SEE WHAT HE DOES INT EH BEGINNING OF 2025 AND WORK IT FROMT EHRE. if SOMEONE HAD WNATED HIM BY NOW, HE'D BE gone. IN SHORT,, i THINK WAITING UNTIL TEHTRADING DEADLINE IN NEXYEAR'S SEASON IS THE SMAR MOVE. AT THIS POINT.
Gotta keep Feddie , give him a chance coming out of spring training
They should be trying to extend him
Do you really think replacing Arenado with Nolan Gorman is an upgrade? Really?
I think Boston might take him.
Just do what Cubs did in 2021. Pay most of Arenado’s contract which you can, and get as good a prospect as possible for him. Then trade all the aging high price players, even with paying to get rid of them.
The worst retooling/rebuilding is go half way! Never will work!
I would say no one or he would have been traded by now or the Cardinals plan on keeping him!
If they want to get rid of Arenado they are going to have to give him away what a shame!!!!
If that's the case then why would we trade him? He still one of the best third baseman's to play the game
@KDShortyBulls ask the front office
Houston was good enough for Christian Walker and I'm pretty sure he wants to win. After this mess if a player wants a no trade clause from the Cardinals. The Cardinals should say ok submit 5 teams you don't want to go to if you're not good with that we are moving on.....Andrew Heaney would be a good pickup for the money.
Dewitt is seeing the signs of the coming economy crash. Trying to reduce expenses.
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The Yankees are not in on Arenado they never really were.
Nobody wants to pay his salary 😂
That's the sign of a bad contract
He's to old has diminishing skills and is owed way to much money. His contract is a boat anchor for all the teams he approves for a trade. The Dodgers need to pass on him.
Season will be just as boring I am afraid of.
Why yes. Yes we are. Still want to move on with Gorman. I’d tell Arenado that the best he can expect here is 3rd string 3B. Perhaps that will help motivate him to move. Thinking we’ll be better without him.
Don't have much between the ears if you truly believe the team is better off without one of the best third baseman's ever play the game😂
Why are the Cardinals stuck ? Play Gorman at 3rd and DH Arenado . Where is the big problem ? If it is Arenado's money , simply move Matz and Mikolas, and if the Cardinals can't move their money, the Cardinals just need to take accountability for their bad signings ! No Motgomery, No Flaherty, and absolutely no Bauer !
Ummm, ok, where / when does Burleson play then?
@@KevinHuffman-m6h Ivan going to take dh bats too
@@KevinHuffman-m6h Outfield, 1st base, or DH with a RH pitcher.
terrible take
Who wants this dude? And his terrible contract. Dude is washed.
For the Cardinals to trade Arenado and to pay for most of his salary is absurd. He is still a draw even though his offensive numbers have went down. He is still the best defensive 3rd baseman in the game today. He still draws the value of fan attention and that is "Butts in the Stands". Which is MONEY for the franchise. I think the Cards should trade him but not for nothing, they should hang tough and be prepared to keep him. It won't hurt the franchise to keep him.
Just got to say, your "In Stream" advertisements, annoy the hell out of me, but I understand why you do it, can you cut down the time that you give them by a little bit. I am just someone that will never use any of those you advertise for.