New film puts spotlight on Chappaquiddick controversy
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Hollywood tackles aura of 'Camelot,' casts shadow over Ted Kennedy and wins praise from conservatives; Mike Huckabee weighs in on 'Fox News @ Night with Shannon Bream.'
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The public back then always believed our government would never lie to us.right,Lee Harvey oswald?
What a joke... people are still treated differently.
Serving 47 years in the senate!! That’s ridiculous!!!!
There was no autopsy on Mary Jo Kopechne.
The Associate medical examiner Dr Donald Mills made a mistake . He had the authority to order the post and did not .
It was generally accepted then that justice would not be done. Not until Ted found out about the brain tumor did he feel the cold dead hand of that poor girl.
His statement that they take Kennedy to task is weak and toothless, the man is dead and never actually paid for this crime. In the least he should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter after leaving the scene of a crime and then taking so long to report it!!
elfpimp1 That'just hollyweids way of hyping it up to get stupid people to go spend their money on this "political thriller". Boycott this joke of a movie!
alyce walters just might..
elfpimp1 my.v
She was found in an air pocket and would have survived at least 45mins.
Really?? I think the news would protect him, today, just as they do other elites we could mention!!
Exactly. ...both Huck and Shannon are wrong here. Nothing has changed. The media and the system would do exactly the same today if it happened now. Just look at how they have covered for Billary for many decades now. And are still doing so.
John Grytbakk yep, the elites and their cronies have always used power, influence and obey to evade every type of criminal activity. We are just cattle and sheep to them! So, this "we're more civilized, today" attitude is purely delusional.
This has happened with the Clinton's.
If your name is Kennedy or Clinton you’re golden!
Jason Franks ...a golden scumbag indeed.
+Jason Franks .... If you are republican your policy mass murders and your idiot fucking voters bullshit about other republican dems poseurs like the CLintons
Oh how I wish the Clintons were on the receiving end of bullets instead
bigraviolees If you’re Democrat your policy is unapologetically mass murder of babies which is much higher than gun deaths. And if you’re democrat you blame shift and blame the Clintons on republicans. And I will say I did like JFK A LOT. I just don’t care for the rest of the Kennedy family. And so far I don’t like anyone from the Bush family and I won’t blame that on the democrats.
Nope!!!!! There are nasty, despicable, horrific people in both parties!!! it just happens to be the Republicans turn now!!!!!!!!!!!! Y'all OWN it!!!!!!!!
Had to sober up before calling the police. Guilty Ted.
Yes it's happening today name change starts C ends in N
I remember when it happened and it wasn't off the front page, but the coverage made it seem like he wasn't at fault, although even liberals were asking questions. The media just wasn't answering them.
Pos Ted
POS GOP
+Steel Magnolia ... No asswipe dems can do anything and they do a fraction of the evil the GOp commit anyway. Obama and Hillary are republicans and unlike scum fox news viewrs I call the 2 out constantly as to what they are yet every GOp politician a 100 x worse
bigraviolees - the fact that you call them Republicans only tells us that you're on the radical left. Thanks.
the radical left is better known as the truth
now be sure and show the kind of shit you think about all the time in your right wing closet
Mike, you booby, there was NO autopsy !
If this happened today CNN would be trying to find the Russian that cut his brakes.
Not convinced it was accidental!
colorz ,,,the people of Nantucket sure knkw the truth. They don't think it was an accident either. Nevertheless,,,he was a coward and didn't attempt to save that poor girl. His punishment was a drunken seat in congress.
colorz This definitely was no accident. I was a young girl when this happened and the people of this nation were furious. This "man" got away with murder!
:\Let's see if they tell the real truth about her medical condition and how the old man Kennedy's made their empire. Will be interesting, they should have waited another 30 years so all us that lived through that part of history are under the dirt with a lovely girl that was left to drown.
Much like the Clintons. This is very fitting for the times
Several years ago for a short time I was a caregiver to the then elderly assistant district attorney on this case. He wasn't the easiest person to get along with but,he did talk about his time on this case & he also told me a few tidbits about the case that I don't believe have been spoke about.
The rotten bastard could have saved her.
"I don't think he would be off the news for 5 minutes" - only if he was a Republican.
On Chappaquiddick, the other group made contact with Markham and Gargan, Ted's cousin and lawyer. They told both men that Mary JO was at the bottom of the river and that Ted would have to make up a story about it, not revealing the existence of the group. One of the men resembled Ted and his voice sounded something like Ted's. Markham and Gargan were instructed to go the the Vineyard on the morning ferry, tell Ted where Mary JO was, and come back to the island to wait for a phone call at a pay station near the ferry on the Chappaquiddick side.
The two men did as they were told and Ted found out what had happened to Mary JO that morning. The three men returned to the pay phone and received their instructions to concoct a story about the "accident" and to report it to the police. The threat against Ted's children was repeated at that time.
Ted, Markham and Gargan went right away to police chief Arena's office on the Vineyard where Ted reported the so-called "accident." Almost at the same time scuba diver John Farror was pulling Mary JO out of the water, since two boys who had gone fishing earlier that morning had spotted the car and reported it.
Ted called together a small coterie of friends and advisors including family lawyer Burke Marshall, Robert MacNamara, Ted Sorenson, and others. They met on Squaw Island near the Kennedy compound at Hyannisport for three days. At the end of that time they had manufactured the story which Ted told on TV, and later at the inquest. Bob Cutler calls the story, "the shroud." Even the most cursory examination of the story shows it was full of holes and an impossible explanation of what happened. Ted's claim that he made the wrong turn down the dirt road toward the bridge by mistake is an obvious lie. His claim that he swam the channel back to Martha's Vineyard is not believable. His description of how he got out of the car under water and then dove down to try to rescue Mary JO is impossible. Markham and Gargan's claims that they kept diving after Mary JO are also unbelievable.
The evidence for the Cutler scenario is substantial. It begins with the marks on the bridge and the position of the car in the water. The marks show that the car was standing still on the bridge and then accelerated off the edge, moving at a much higher speed than Kennedy claimed. The distance the car travelled in the air also confirms this. The damage to the car on two sides and on top plus the damage to the windshield and the rear view mirror stanchion prove that some of the damage had to have been inflicted before the car left the bridge.
The blood on the back and on the sleeves of Mary JO's blouse proves that a wound was inflicted before she left the bridge. The alcohol in her bloodstream proves she was drugged, since all witnesses testified she never drank and did not drink that night. The fact that she was in the back seat when her body was recovered indicates that is where she was when the car hit the water. There was no way she could have dived downward against the inrushing water and moved from the front to the back seat underneath the upside-down seat back.
The wounds on the back of Ted Kennedy's skull, those just above his ear and the large bump on the top indicate he was knocked out. His actions at the hotel the next morning show he was not aware of Mary JO's death until Markham and Gargan arrived. The trip to the pay phone on Chappaquiddick can only be explained by his receiving a call there, not making one. There were plenty of pay phones in or near Ted's hotel if he needed to make a private call. The tides in the channel and the direction in which Ted claimed he swam do not match. In addition it would have been a superhuman feat to have made it across the channel (as proven by several professionals who subsequently tried it).
Deputy Sheriff Christopher Look's testimony, coupled with the testimony of Ray LaRosa and two Lyons girls, proves that there were two people in Ted's car with Mary Jo at 12:45 pm. The three party members walking along the road south toward the cottage confirmed the time that Mr. Look drove by. He stopped to ask if they needed a ride. Look says that just prior to that he encountered Ted's car parked facing north at the juncture of the main road and the dirt road. It was on a short extension of the north-south section of the road junction to the north of the "T". He says he saw a man driving, a woman in the seat beside him, and what he thought was another woman lying on the back seat. He remembered a portion of the license plate which matched Ted's car, as did the description of the car. Markham, Gargan and Ted's driver's testimony show that someone they talked to in the pitch black night sounded like Ted and was about his height and build.
None of the above evidence was ever explained by Ted or by anyone else at the inquest or at the hearing on the case demanded by district attorney Edward Dinis. No autopsy was ever allowed on Mary JO's body (her family objected), and Ted made it possible to fly her body home for burial rather quickly. Kennedy haters have seized upon Chappaquiddick to enlarge the sexual image now being promoted of both Ted and Jack Kennedy. Books like "Teddy Bare" take full advantage of the situation.
Just which operatives in the Power Control Group at the high levels or the lower levels were on Chappaquiddick Island? No definite evidence has surfaced as yet, except for an indication that there was at least one woman and at least three men, one of whom resembled Ted Kennedy and who sounded like him in the darkness. However, two pieces of testimony in the Watergate hearings provide significant clues as to which of the known JFK case conspirators may have been there.
E. Howard Hunt told of a strange trip to Hyannisport to see a local citizen there about the Chappaquiddick incident. Hunt's cover story on this trip was that he was digging up dirt on Ted Kennedy for use in the 1972 campaign. The story does not make much sense if one questions why Hunt would have to wear a disguise, including his famous red wig, and to use a voice-alteration device to make himself sound like someone else. If, on the other hand, Hunt's purpose was to return to the scene of his crime just to make sure that no one who might have seen his group at the bridge or elsewhere would talk, then the disguise and the voice box make sense.
The other important testimony came from Tony Ulasewicz who said he was ordered by the Plumbers to fly immediately to Chappaquiddick and dig up dirt on Ted. The only problem Tony has is that, according to his testimony, he arrived early on the morning of the "accident", before the whole incident had been made public. Ulasewicz is the right height and weight to resemble Kennedy and with a CIA voice-alteration device he presumably could be made to sound like him. There is a distinct possibility that Hunt and Tony were there when it happened.
The threats by the Power Control Group, the frame-up at Chappaquiddick, and the murders of Jack and Bobby Kennedy cannot have failed to take their toll on all of the Kennedys. Rose, Ted, Jackie, Ethel and the other close family members must be very tired of it all by now. They can certainly not be blamed for hoping it will all go away. Investigations like those proposed by Henry Gonzalez and Thomas Downing only raised the spectre of the powerful Control Group taking revenge by kidnapping some of the seventeen children.
The 'Lion' of the Senate??? Yea, NO. Maybe the LYIN Alcoholic of the Senate... They say that if you rolled him over and lit his ass, he'd put the 'Eternal Flame' to shame.
Too many unanswered about the story and sequence of events to be able to accept Kennedy's version. And no autopsy? Why? It was standard procedure. Then the parents would not allow the body to exhumed? Would they want the questions answered?
There was no autopsy
This is redundant all parties are dead Teddy went on to have fame and fortune because of his family and that is the real story just like William Kennedy Smith got away with rape and Mike Tyson didn't so the story continues and always will.
Ever look at the original July 20th newspaper? I've seen several. You see the main headline of "Man walks on Moon"....and quietly...OFF to the side....is a little side bar....about Chappaquiddick........
As a Catholic, he had to make a decision between her life and his reputation to continue of as a leader and possible president. He knows now before his God if he made the right choice.
Perhaps the party itself was a sign of weakness and he should have been more honest with himself in terms of how important he really was to our country. Maybe in the eyes of God and Mary gasping for breath and dying in a horrific manner, the best thing for him to do was to save her and risk the damage of the incident leaking out. Over all , he would have been a true heror to save her and then let the chips fall where they may but have his soul in the best place with God. What does God honor more? Life or politics?
"American Royalty"? bullshit
Another Democrat getting away with murder.
Oh, come on Huckabee you would be treated a lot differently if it happened to you because of your wealth, power and notoriety
TED KENNEDY'S CAR HAS KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN MY GUN.
So that's why we allegedly went to the moon! To cover this murder. Now I get it.
Ol Ted was married at the time also.
I believe that the inquest findings of the Chappaquiddick incident were sealed for 50 years. I estimate that the 50 years are up in 2019. It will be interesting to see if the records are actually unsealed.
Don’t count on it.
Perhaps people should read the book....The Chappaquiddick Decision.
I have. It is a very interesting read.
Save Mill Pond Park Vote NO 9/9/14 what stands out the most to you in that book? Might have a read of it meself..
What an excellent point, what if the roles had been reversed and Mary Jo had left Ted Kennedy to drown/suffocate in the car and not reported it for 10 hours? Would she have been able to plead to leaving the scene of an accident and gotten a suspended sentence?
Or, another thing to ponder. What if that had been Kennedy's mother or sister in the car instead of Mary Jo? Do you think his actions would have been the same?
Another worthless movie that I will not spend money to see.
3:37 what autopsy? it was said she never had one
*Are you fucking kidding?*
If not mistaken I believe he's dead now.
Whatever he did he's paying for it now if he didn't repent of his sins before he died he's in hell!
I'm more interested in the untold story of "The Boys on The Tracks"
I'd be commenting from prison.
2:52 ..."i don't know that that would happen today..." Ha Ha
Wheaar's ma caa.....its in da lake.... The Chappaquiddic Car Wash.
“I don’t know that that would happen today”??
What about the untold story of Roger Ailes at Fox for over twenty years?
What is Huckabee on about. It may not happen today!!!! are you for real. CLINTONS!! both of them.
At 4:12. garbage statement. The highest ranking official to die since Kennedy with the Park Police assigned to solve.
Advertising murder--would never see this movie--the Kenndeys have dearly paid for their sins
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KENNEDY'S DEAD THATS WHY ......
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Ole pudding head Ted. Let's just hope he suffered at the end.
Should be called “Chap Acquitted”!
When Teddy began making moves to run for president in 1969 for the 1972 election, the Group decided to put some real action behind their threats. Killing Teddy in 1969 would have been too much. They selected a new way of eliminating him as a candidate. They framed him with the death of a young girl, and threw sexual overtones in for good measure.
Here is what happened according to Robert Cutler's (You the Jury - 1974) analysis of the evidence. The Group hired several men and at least one woman to be at Chappaquiddick during the weekend of the yacht race and the planned party on the island. They ambushed Ted and Mary Jo after they left the cottage and knocked Ted out with blows to his head and body. They took the unconscious or semi-conscious Kennedy to Martha's Vineyard and deposited him in his hotel room. Another group took Mary JO to the bridge in Ted's car, force fed her with a knock out potion of alcoholic beverage, placed her in the back seat, and caused the car to accelerate off the side of the bridge into the water. They broke the windows on one side of the car to insure the entry of water; then they watched the car until they were sure Mary JO would not escape.
Mary JO actually regained consciousness and pushed her way to the top of the car (which was actually the bottom of the car - it had landed on its roof) and died from asphyxiation. The group with Teddy revived him early in the morning and let him know he had a problem. Possibly they told him that Mary JO had been kidnapped. They told him his children would be killed if he told anyone what had happened and that he would hear from them.
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